A conversation with a good friend has recoloured the whole ScobleGate affair... Some use social
media for work, some for pleasure. Angst happens when the two sides cross or turn away sharply. No one side is better or a more valid use of the tools. More importantly, one side does not speak for the all...
There are people who mix the two, but through these glasses, it's just a bunch of people talking about two seperate things, with some not fully respecting that the other side has a point.
- Johnny
from iPhone
I think it is a turning away. If you look at what some people are looking to get out of the service, it's centered around voluminous discovery of tech news. On the other hand, I am looking for social connection and general life streaming. I believe Robert had an issue on Sunday with the two crossing over (the Social over the Tech) but he also has an issue with the Tech centric nature getting off at the last offramp. FriendFeed is changing, and those who are looking for a certain niche (Tech is a niche) have to ask them selfs if this is the vehicle for them. It's ok to go, but that doesn't reflect on those who stay. Robert and I use social media in very different ways, I have just realised that when Robert talks, he is speaking to a very specific slice of people and I'm not in that slice.
- Johnny
Since when is any social media enabled service a niche for a *single* topic? Hint: It's a damn small number of services that somehow manage that
- Mo Kargas
Some see learning or work as play or social and we like the influences of boundary spanners, we can tolerate noise. Sometimes we have to be highly focused and in that case we have to be effective at aggregating then filtering. We are all in such different contexts. I agree with Johnny that one side cannot speak for all.
- hollyrae
Holden, when it is released, I suggest you listen to the end of that latest Net@Nite. Leo made a comment about Robert's Sunday post and frankly it wasn't good. This is the issue I have with Robert, when he speaks, people listen but don't dig into the responses.
- Johnny
In order to create the place where social media can be used for pleasure, it's up to us to monetize and evangelize - w/out you, there's no us. W/out us, there's no you. Tit for tat. That's why it's all about customization and filter out the things you don't want to see / hear.
- Mona Nomura
@Holly Personally if it's strictly work related, avoid pure social sites, and stick to targeted, professional locations like Linkedin and a good set of topic specific RSS subscriptions for pertinent aggregated information. People may say 'ohh it's not realtime', but realtime doesn't always mean good. After all. how much data can you get from 140 characters (on Twitter or any broadcast medium), or topic specific subs on those services posting links to standard sites anyway? Very rarely do I see a post to a realtime conversation about a topic, which I would surmise to be the whole idea.
- Mo Kargas
@Mo Great examples of how one can focus in with specific tools to receive less social ambiance. It highlights how a social tool like Friendfeed could make it more challenging to focus on professional goals. You kind of have to be social here in order to achieve interaction which could possibly lead to achieving work related goals. I definitely feel more social here than elsewhere.
- hollyrae
It truly depends on what you want from a service. Do you want to be social, or do you want to be professional and niche focussed? I think 'purity of feed' for certain topics is damn near impossible on any socnet service (big human element). Not just near impossible to obtain, but also near impossible to police and filter. People whining that their feeds are sometimes off-topic or too social, aren't adjusting their subscriptions appropriately and fail to realize that the 'social' part means more 'noise'. Stick to sanitized sources if 'noise' is too much to handle, otherwise try and change every subscriptions human behavior.
- Mo Kargas
Holden, what I mean was when Robert said 'FriendFeed is dead', there was no prominent counter-voice that said 'Only for Robert'
- Johnny
from iPhone
Didn't Louis Gray have a response? I remember it being a pretty good one.
- Eric
It was exceptional... just not quote worthy like Robert can write. It's a 140 character world now.
- Johnny
from iPhone
Robert Scoble doesn't speak for me. I use FF, FB and even Myspace for pleasure. I'm not a social network geek like Robert and some are. I do my own thing with services like FF and just ignore what Robert has to say. I was a follower of people like Leo but he goes from one place to another. I'll stick to stuff I like, and to be honest I like FB and still like FF. :) You're going to have to pull me away kicking and screaming to make me leave FF.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
Robert conveys an idea in 10 words or less. It's a key attention getter. In fact, titles to blogs/articles are key. Nuance gets lost though, that's the problem.
- Eric
Also, this is nothing against Robert. We are just different ships in the same ocean. Some are having a yatch race, some are just enjoying the day out...
- Johnny
from iPhone
i mean calling it scoblegate. i love how people put "gate" on the end of any drama, no matter how big ;)
- Terry O'Fee
I think tha's the joke... Something big than it is
- Johnny
from iPhone
example - every time somebody coughs wrong these days in politics it's -gate. Even Australia had "ute-gate" some months ago... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Terry O'Fee