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I don't know that much about Mexican food, but it occurred to me today to cook my leftover chorizo into the black beans (from a can) that I was cooking with a little diced onion. Worked out great, so then this evening I made a sofrito (sliced onions, diced garlic, and diced sweet pepper) to go with the leftovers of that.
I've started looking at "mothership" cooking. A large base ingredient that purposefully triggers leftovers. - Johnny
I love that kind of cooking. I think 'roasted chicken' is probably my favorite, but that's likely because I know the most recipes to take advantage of the whole chicken. - Jennifer Dittrich
I like Johnny's term for it: "mothership cooking." Ha! - Corinne L
Who is considered the best programmer in the world?
Alive or anytime? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Not me. - Amit Patel
It's interesting we don't even have any nominations. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Da Vinci. in so much that he reverse engineered nature's code and reproduced it. - Johnny
A while back gamers were gushing over John Carmack. - Rodfather from Android
Ken Thompson maybe. But probably Don Knuth. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Most likely, it's not the best programmer in the world. There is an issue of acknowledgement. - NOT THE CRICKET
God! - Eivind
Gregor Mendel - WarLord
Tourists allow boy to urinate in busy eatery - Taipei Times -
"A family of Chinese tourists, who it is said came to Taiwan as part of a tour with a substantially higher price tag than is typical for tour groups from China, stunned staff and customers in the world-renowned Din Tai Fung dumpling restaurant by allowing a three-year-old boy to urinate in a bottle while the parents were eating at a table, the Chinese-language Apple Daily reported. The toddler was part of a family of five tourists dining in the Michelin-starred Din Tai Fung restaurant in Taipei 101 on Oct. 2, and urinated in a plastic bottle instead of going to a restroom that was 100m from where the family were eating. The urine splashed on food the family had bought, so they tried to get it replaced for free, but were rejected, the report said." - Jessie from Bookmarklet
"The group eventually paid for a new round of dishes, but reportedly complained about the extra money they had to spend “while already paying that much for the tour.” It was said that the scene had dumbfounded customers at neighboring tables and the smell had lingered long enough to take away their appetite." - Jessie
"The incident was confirmed by the restaurant’s public relations manager, who said the area was cleaned and disinfected after the group had left the restaurant. The restaurant, the manager said, had also had an internal discussion over the case and resolved that in the future “[any similar behavior] would be stopped as soon as possible,” the report said." - Jessie
Rich people... - Eivind
SMH - Anne Bouey
Who ordered the pea soup? - Johnny
Better get it before they split. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
Christina Pikas
Speaking of rhymes. Does gorilla rhyme with mirror in any English accent? Children's book tried it.
If you're, say, Bob Dylan, of course it does. - Walt Crawford
In Aussie, mirror tends to be mir-a so yes - Johnny from iPhone
Ahhh. Ok - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Seems shocking inside our brand obsessed sphere but I would expect a lot of people have a "phone" or "reader" as opposed to a choice-specific brand. - Johnny from iPhone
The 2% who responded "I don't know" kind of confuses me. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
Steele Lawman
Just now realized there's still the potential for an all-Missouri World Series.
I have thought more about Missouri this year than I have in the rest of my life combined. - Steele Lawman
I don't know, the Australian teams are looking good... sorry, what? We're not in the World Series? My mistake ;) - Johnny from iPhone
Mary Carmen
Ebola situation is sorta kinda getting fucking scary.
I don't get it. Why are you scared? Of what? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Amen Mary! Stephen, it only takes one breach of protocol to harm many. - Janet from FFHound!
It's possible to be scared of something without it being a direct threat to you or your community. The idea that Ebola could devastate millions of people in West Africa so quickly is pretty frightening. - Johnny from iPhone
I'm pretty sure that ebola in the US won't spread at the same rate as in West Africa, but it was disturbing to see how quickly the whole "We're the US - we got this 100% covered" argument fell apart. - Brian Johns
On the other hand, what could possibly go wrong? We spend more money on healthcare than any other nation and that's led to a system with full coverage and perfect outcomes for all, regardless of social, racial, educational, or economic status. Right? Right??? On second thought, maybe we are boned. - Brian Johns
There is certainly a "over there" mentally going on in countries like the US and Australia. When the situation is looked at on a global scale, it's definitely a thing. Africa, Europe and Asia are all land linked. It's easy to sit here on my island and go "at least they'll catch them arriving by plane" but considering the incubation period is up to 21 days, an infected carrier could spread it to other parts of the African continent or Europe/Asia without stepping in an airport. - Johnny from iPhone
I'm scared of it now, because of the sheer idiocy of the hospital in TX. They exposed us to so much danger, they broke the seal of "American Health care will prevent Africa-like outbreaks". I'm stunned that the hospital *ignored* protocol for days (they didn't wear head protection, no goggles, no full facial protection!!!). And then the CDC, assuming they followed protocol, said the... more... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
What's scary to me is not knowing if or how many people are moving about the US unknowingly contagious. There are few places in the USA untouched by global travel, so I figured it was only a matter of time before we saw it here. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
And going off what Rudi said, the protocol breach may not be that dangerous for Ebola but if something as serious as Ebola gets that lack of seriousness applied to it, what's the strength of other protocols for less deadly but more contagious diseases. - Johnny from iPhone
I just don't understand why a travel ban is not instituted. That could alleviate some of the problems. Also, the CDC just put out a warning to NYC that they should be on the alert for Ebola since they are a common port of entry for West Africans. - Mary Carmen
Here's one argument against the travel ban: - Brian Johns
I'm not really convinced by that. I think the airport screenings are bullshit. Checking for a fever is not a guarantee and people may not show signs. If what the nurses' union is stating is true, then we are not doing everything we can to prevent more cases in the US. Either way, the gov't needs to get it's shit together. - Mary Carmen
Also, the house committee hearing today was redonk. - Mary Carmen
Working in imaging, usually step two of an ER visit- I cannot begin to tell you how many times Universal Precautions failed us. People are being triaged on a fast pace and tests ordered prior to results and waiting. At least three times a week we find we had a MRSA patient and we were unaware, hence no precautions. - Janet
Melly - #TeamMarina
Yay! - Anne Bouey
Nope. No. She is getting to big. - Johnny from iPhone
The reaction of conservative clerics to Pope Francis governance of Catholic Church is a fascinating parallel to the reaction of Tea Party to Obama governance. The Pope is presumed infallible when speaking of doctrine except in this case, not this pope and certainly not these issues
The idea of Papal infallibility is something from the First Vatican Council. Pretty much most Catholic people, including several previous popes, said that was a stretch. - Johnny
Perhaps but its bedrock "conservative" doctrine and US Bishops sure liked it when they denied communion to John Kerrey... In and of itself perhaps infallibility is debatable but to agree that Benedict was and current incumbent is not reeks of the same sort of "birtherism" as we see in America and by some of the same actors - WarLord
Infallibility is to dogma and only imposed a handful of times. Doctrine is different. ;) - Janet from FFHound!
A conservatist power system corrupted for the machinations of the day? That's pretty much par for the course ;) - Johnny
The American Bishops have been loyal foot soldiers in the Republican culture war. Pope Francis comes from a place where economic inequity matters This wild be even more unsettling then anything he does to welcome people back into the church who were previously very unwelcome - WarLord
One of the issues when talking about #GamerGate stuff is subtly, context and truth. The gent I was talking too this morning is 100% correct when he said you end up killing far more male enemies in a game than the one female the inspires the protagonist. The problem is the only reason a female character is in there is to inspire...
... that protagonist to go on a killing spree. - Johnny
So I'm correct and he is correct. He may not be right in the wider context BUT he isn't just some deluded keyboard masher - Johnny
That's a big part of the reaction to Anita Sarkeesian's videos. She looks at the overall picture, but the people who react so negatively focus on each game independently of each other. - Heather
I also think for a number of gamers (myself included) play in such a way that unless it's a heavily story-driven game, I skip the cutscenes. I don't necessarily always see the underlying storyline and the tropes, although I am usually conscious of it. I can honestly say I've played a number of games that have been called out during Gamer Gate that I missed the things that caused issues. - Johnny
Scene: A run-down motor inn. [Interior] Guy picks up rotary phone, dials 0. "H-Hello? Yes, I'd like to request turndown service. TURN DOWN SERVICE. Yes." [ DJ Snake and Lil Jon bust through wall Kool-aid Man style. Beat drops.]
What? - Johnny from iPhone
That singlet may not itself be racist, but let's be honest, we ALL know what it's intention is. If you're a racist, at least own it. #auspol
I want to see the look on racists faces when they are told they have just received life saving blood from a black person or the organ they need to live is a genetic match from a black person etc; firstly it would shake them and maybe it will also knock some friggin sense into their stupid brains that we are all genetically related on some level, hence the random genetic matches from completely different ethnic backgrounds. In conclusion, racism is illogical! - Halil
It's illogical. I've been watching a few of my friends who, on the surface, are racists but really it's just a self-interest in maintaining the status quo that benefits them. They don't ACTUALLY hate a particular person or group because of their skin colour, just what any shift would mean for them. Also, a lot of them are in situations of mutual destruction. In certain workplaces, there... more... - Johnny
Ah well, confronting racism is a different kettle of fish, as you say being brave can be a difficult choice for some, especially if they have more to lose on a personnel level or fearful of physical recriminations. Also, there's the whole peer pressure thing, I wonder if as you say, people just go with the flow, albeit reluctantly and feel bad afterwards, but still do nothing? Bystander apathy is an evil in our society that's hard to resolve and I have no answers. - Halil
Steve C Team Marina
Tony Abbott vows to 'shirt-front' Vladimir Putin at G20 - -
Tony Abbott vows to 'shirt-front' Vladimir Putin at G20 -
"Abbott told reporters: "Look, I'm going to shirt-front Mr Putin... you bet I am. I am going to be saying to Mr Putin, Australians were murdered. They were murdered by Russian-backed rebels using Russian-supplied equipment." He continued: "We are very unhappy about this. We accept that you didn't want this to happen but we now demand that you fully cooperate with the criminal investigation, and if the criminal investigation identifies suspects that you have some influence over, they've got to be produced and justice has got to be done." Putin's upcoming presence on Australian soil has been a contentious topic in the wake of the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over a pro-Russian separatist-controlled area of eastern Ukraine in July." - Steve C Team Marina from Bookmarklet
*sigh* - Johnny from iPhone
Clooney may have been a "bad" Batman but considering the steaming pile Schumacher was going to make anyway, he's the movie's best feature.
I actually liked Batman Forever & Batman & Robin. - NOT THE CRICKET
As did I. - Johnny from iPhone
I really need to get around to starting my religion so I can be an enormous dick to people and claim religious persecution when called on it
Yeah, too many people are too sensitive and take everything as a personal attack and it's getting silly and annoying me. Good example, I don't eat pork, but pigs don't offend me, lol. - Halil
Exactly. I have no beef with religion... I have beef with people who take what is suppose to be a very personal thing and try and forcefully spread it on the wider world, through direct action or unrepresentative pressure. - Johnny
The people they have "officially" live-tweeting Gotham are rather annoying.
It feels like they're trying the get "fetch" happening. - Johnny
At least unlike the periodic OMG CORRUPTION dialog, it isn't an actual part of the show. I feel like they've got 2 good scenes per every stinker so far. I need that to be more like 3 (which is how Arrow started, and then got better.) - Jennifer Dittrich
It's just annoying because I'm really giving the show the benefit of the doubt but the tweeting is making me cringe. - Johnny from iPhone
Is it part of the show or something? - Stephen Mack
No, but I follow DC and related properties for my comics and Gotham stuff keeps popping up constantly. - Johnny from iPhone
Ah, I see. Thx. (Sorry if I sounded sarcastic -- was just confused.) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Mike Nencetti
contacting hospice creates family drama. Im ok with being the bad guy.
I'll do my best to keep the drama off of Facebook. I just desperately needed a hospice bed. My poor wife is going through hell. She may be put through more hell, I'll just do my best to give her the best care. She deserves it. - Mike Nencetti
She cannot talk, she cannot walk, she cannot dress herself, she cannot tell someone she is in pain. Things will get worse, horrifically worse. My calling hospice was an intervention for her. A cry for mercy. But unfortunately family may step in and - well hopefully the bad guy can get her the care she needs. I do not need to be liked, - Mike Nencetti
What is the opposition to hospice? - Anne Bouey
Do what you need to do. My dad has been at home under hospice care since mid/late August. He's very near the end now, but this was the right thing to do. You know your wife and what she wants. Focus on getting that. - ellbeecee from Android
Chemo is out because she cannot move without crap loads of steroids and and almost choked on her vomit a few days ago, by the time could qualify for a trial she wil most likely be dead. I really have no idea. - Mike Nencetti
I'll just let things play out. My only drama was taking the Drs advice and contacting hospice. But wow, am amazed how that can cause so many attacks on me. I'm ok. I will take the hits for my wife. - Mike Nencetti
Oh, Mike. I really hope that the family comes around and realizes that hospice care is what is best for Beverly. - vicster: full-bodied
It's her daughter. She will be here soon. - Mike Nencetti
I'm sorry that their way of dealing with their grief is to lash out at you, Mike, and you are a very forgiving guy to take it on the chin like that. You know what is best, and you are doing what you need to do. All strength and love to you both ((hugs)) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
My hope is that when her daughter arrives, she will be able to meet with hospice and see that they are there to keep her mom comfortable and to support you and all the family (including her). These are always tough decisions, but you know best. I wish you peace, Mike. *hugs* - Anne Bouey
glioblastoma destroys famiies. We are fortunate, most GBM patients have little quality of life. I'll let her daughter do what she wants. I am as worried for her as I am for my wife. Being the step dad, not being likes is part of the job. I do not think there is much she can do.. - Mike Nencetti
Hopefully she does what's best for her mum and not just what's best for her. Quality of life goes up and down the chain and playing the hero (or martyr) isn't always the best option for the person who needs the care. Sending peace and love, my friend. - Johnny
I can't say enough wonderful things about hospice. In my experience, people get upset that hospice gets involved because they're afraid it means their loved one is dying today or tomorrow .. and while that can be the case .. you'll get more benefit from hospice if they get involved before it gets to that point. Hospice offers amazing support and counseling for the entire family and they... more... - Kristin
Thanks everyone. i meet with the social worker, and hospice nurse today. not yet heard about the bed. I'm going into work the rest of the week, to avoid as much drama as possible. i'm being treated like one of the kids, not her husband. i'll try to update this thread soon. i'll get counselling soon. i am sure I will need it. - Mike Nencetti
I often wish Josh's family had been okay with hospice care for my MIL rather than try to nurse her themselves at home. I honestly think it would have been better for everyone. - Melly - #TeamMarina
oh dear, Mike. I'm so sorry. But I am glad you've called hospice. I hope you get counseling and the support you need from your own sources. (I bet hospice can help you!!) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Being "the bad guy" is often merely surrogate for "doing what no one else has the courage to do, even though they realize it must be done." You are to be commended in the manner you've taken care of your wife, Mike. Not that you need a pat on the back from me (or anyone else). - MoTO: Team Marina
Thinking of you, Mike. I hope the family will realize you are trying to do the best thing for Beverly and the rest of you. - LB put a spell on you.
Maybe it isn't that they object to hospice care, as much as they object to what it means. And yes, you would naturally be "the bad guy" for making them face the truth and taking away any false hope they have left. But for your wife, it's probably best that she is cared for by people that understand her needs, as you understand them, and not cared for by people trying to cling to their... more... - April Russo
Well said, April. - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
Fear does horrid things to people. I hope her daughter understands you are doing this for love of her mother. So very sorry you are dealing with this! - Janet from FFHound!
Love you man I made the call on mom's hospice but I had a supportive family who trusted me and my decisions. I can't imagine going through it up stream. You're doing all you can the best you can and for the right reasons. Take care of yourself please. - Steve C Team Marina
Thanks everyone. Great meeting with the hospice nurse today. Huge help for Beverly. So glad we have this in place. We would soon be in the ER if not. The nurse will return in two days and meet with Beverlys daughter. I'm going to work wed-fri. We still do not have the bed. I believe the drama will be minimal. Beverly will get the care she needs. - Mike Nencetti
Glad it sounds like things are getting resolved. - Anika
I'm so glad that things are settling toward Beverly getting the care she needs and hope that the drama stays at bay. I'm glad you are seeking out care for yourself as well. Care for caregivers is so hugely important. It is exhausting in every way. - vicster: full-bodied
I'm so glad that the meeting went well and I'm sending good thoughts to you all - Galadriel C. from Android
Drama is done for now. I'm slowly seeing people help.Family becoming family. neighbors volunteering to help. more food than we need. we have a lot of challenges ahead. I think we will be ok. - Mike Nencetti
So good to hear that things are settling down a bit and people are helping out. Don't hesitate to say if there is anything you need, or if you just want a place to vent. ((hugs)) to you both. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Melly - #TeamMarina
The events of this day beggar belief. #fb
Johnny might be kind enough to fill you in. My 3G is sketchy. - Melly - #TeamMarina from FFHound!
Car issues X2 plus inadequate accommodation on arrival. Basically, the road trip gods fucked with Team Doyle today. - Johnny from iPhone
It started with Josiah opening his car door onto the car next to us, leaving a big gouge in their paintwork. Then there was the slight problem with our car going down the range where we suddenly didn't have brakes or steering and had to use an emergency stopping ramp... which was lined with gravel which we then got bogged in and had to wait for a specialist RACQ truck to come rescue us.... more... - Melly - #TeamMarina
However, the rest of the weekend was absolutely PERFECT!!!!! - Melly - #TeamMarina
glad the rest of the weekend was great, but :( sucks that y'all had so many issues. but y'all got home ok? - Sir Shuping is just sir
I'm sorry that the weekend started out so awful but glad that the rest of the weekend made up for that and that you are all back home safely and catering to Noah's every need. :-) - vicster: full-bodied
*huggles* - Alix May
Meg VMeg
Did anyone here ever try that terrifying recipe where you make dulce de leche by boiling a can of sweetened condensed milk? And maybe it explodes?
When I was little, my friend Gina's grandma used to make it that way. No cans ever exploded. - Jennifer Dittrich
that sounds like a fun experiment to do in a friend's kitchen. - kendrak
I think these days you can just buy precooked cans of dulce de leche, or at least in Latin markets or big supermarkets with a decent Latin items aisle. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
Yes. We use it for caramel tart. - Johnny from iPhone
My friend makes caramel for dipping that way, but she uses a slow cooker. I haven't tried it myself, but the results are so good. - Corinne L
Ah, slow cooker is smart. - Meg VMeg
have you read Sweet Potato Queens? mentioned there prominently as "danger sauce" I still want to try it. - Christina Pikas
I learned that trick in Zimbabwe. We made all sorts of desserts but by far my favorite is to just dip the spoon in the can. "Danger sauce" is a great name I think I'll adopt it. - Lnorigb from FFHound!
I make that all the time, for banoffi pie (banana toffee). - Iain - locked out of ff
And it never explodes? - Meg VMeg
No, not so long as you keep an eye on the pan, and never let it boil dry. You don't have it on a rolling boil, but it's still a bit of a leap of faith. You have to trust that it'll be OK, and it will. - Iain - locked out of ff
Just keep a kettle with boiling water in it, ready to go. That way, you can keep topping up the level of water in the pan with the condensed milk cans - Iain - locked out of ff
My parent's made it a few times. No explosions. - Holly's favorite Anna from Android
I've done it. I also emptied a can of condensed milk into a pan. Bake it for 60-90 minutes, stirring every 30. It was delicious! - Gabrielle from FFHound(roid)!
my cousin exploded a can, but that's because she wasn't keeping an eye on it and let it boil dry. she's the only person i've ever heard of who had a can explode. - ~Courtney F
Jason Toney
Thing I learned today: there are people that legit believe in "end times" and they are coming. Soon.
They've been coming soon since I was a boy, 50 some odd years ago, and when my mother was a child, 80 some odd years ago. Everybody has to have a hobby, I guess. - MoTO: Team Marina
I concur with Barry. - Friar Will
they've been coming soon since ppl started imagining monsters in the shadows. - Big Joe Silence
This has been trending sinces at least the 70s. (as in, 0070 AD.) - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Having been raised 7th Day Adventist, I know many of those people. - Corinne L
I remember speaking to my philosophy lecturer about End Times belief and he had a theory it was from people who needed to be right. The thing about belief in an afterlife is you never actually know until you die. By the "end times" coming while they're still alive, they get to a) know they "backed the right horse" in the religion stakes and b) thumb their noses at those who didn't believe them. - Johnny
HorseS, Johnny -- there's four of them after all. #whiteredblackpale - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I would think that if I watch Faux News 24x7 and listened to AM radio hosts. - Eric - It's My Thing
My dad's family ranted and raved about the end times for as long as I can remember. That's why Mormons have a 7 year food storage. - Jenny H. from Android
Get Free Food Prep Help from Your Butcher by Simply Asking -
Get Free Food Prep Help from Your Butcher by Simply Asking
i do this - it's great! some of the butchers at Whole Foods know me by sight now. - holly #ravingfangirl
Same, for some stuff - I especially like that the fishmonger I go to will do a great job taking out pin bones, or any sort of cleaning. It is sometimes a bit extra, but totally worth it. - Jennifer Dittrich
One of the butcher's around here does an amazing job butterflying the turkey breast for me at Thanksgiving. It makes my life so much easier when doing that roulade. - Katy S
We don't have no damned fishmongers. *jealous* - Eric - It's My Thing
Having a regular butcher is very cool - WarLord
I pay a little more at our local butcher but the meat is top quality and the butchery skill is unmistakable. - Johnny from iPhone
I like having a place where I can reliably place custom orders. Also, my favorite one in the area makes its own bacon and it is awesome! They have fabulous brats, too. They almost all do deer processing and one of them will process other animals, too. If I had a cow or pig, I could take it to them. While this won't be happening, I love that it's an option. - Katy S
The closest thing we have to a *good* fishmonger (AFAIK) is the Mountain View Farmers' Market fish place, and we only get there once every 6-8 weeks... - Walt Crawford
Eric - It's My Thing
Palin family brawl details: Bristol was ‘out of control’ -
Palin family brawl details: Bristol was ‘out of control’
"The fight broke out at a house party, when an older woman allegedly shoved Willow, 20, and Bristol, 23, confronted the alleged assailant, according to the police report obtained by TMZ. Bristol told police that the owner of the Anchorage house, Korey Klingenmeyer, shoved her down on the ground and began dragging her across the lawn by her feet, calling her a “slut” and “c–t.” However, Klingenmeyer, 39, and several other witnesses claim Bristol threw the first punch. Klingenmeyer says Bristol came around to the back of the house saying she was going to “beat that girl’s ass” and got violent when Klingenmeyer told her to go home. He adds that Bristol threatened to hit him and he told her to go ahead. He let her hit him a few times before pushing her off of him onto the ground. One witness said Bristol “was out of control.” The scene reportedly involved at least 20 people. A witness told TMZ that Todd was jumped by four people and Track jumped in to help — but previous reports said that Track, 25, ripped off his shirt and began throwing punches." - Eric - It's My Thing from Bookmarklet
*as dualing banjos plays* - Eric - It's My Thing
PEW PEW PEW - Johnny
Re: “Oh, so it’s my COOKING that has caused my son’s autism?” -
"The difference between Jamie Oliver and Pete Evans is that when Jamie Oliver went on his drive to change kid's health, he armed himself with well studied science and medical experts. Evans doesn't have that. I don't trust Jamie Oliver as a scientist, I trust him because he brings real scientists to the table." - Johnny
Melly - #TeamMarina
RT @buzzfeedoz: 19 Unintentionally Disturbing Kids’ Playgrounds via @psmith
RT @buzzfeedoz: 19 Unintentionally Disturbing Kids’ Playgrounds via @psmith
NOPE - Steele Lawman
That lizard though... - Johnny from iPhone
......... - Alix May
YES!! YESS!!! *cackle and slow clap* - Big Joe Silence
Melly - #TeamMarina
YEAH BABY! I got Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy! Who Should Be Your Boyfriend? via @robotics @buzzfeed
YEAH BABY! I got Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy! Who Should Be Your Boyfriend? via @robotics @buzzfeed
That's Uncle Jesse, not Mr. Darcy. - NOT THE CRICKET
How did I get Uncle Jesse? - bentley
It didn't pull in the right photo :o( - Melly - #TeamMarina
That's be a tasty sandwich - Johnny from iPhone
Melly, I got the same. - Jennifer Dittrich from FFHound!
Mr. Darcy too. - Corinne L
Question: I agree with the idea that viewing pictures from the iCloud hack constitue a violation. Sexual assult even. So what about those pictures Anthony Wiener sent. It was private and not intended for public distribution. Do they fall under the same protections or is it ok cause he's a politician?
Wiener's situation wasn't a hack. He did that himself in public. - Eric - It's My Thing
So if Jennifer Lawrence's ex-boyfriend released nude photos that she sent him during their relationship, that would be ok? - Johnny from iPhone
Pretty sure Weiner posted the photo publicly himself by accident. So the analogy would be more like, "If Jennifer Lawrence posted a nude photo of herself to Twitter and then deleted it saying it was an accident, would it be OK to continue to distribute it?" - Steele Lawman
The second scandal was a release of photos he distributed in private messages. Maybe Anthony Wiener isn't the best example but I have seen many websites now championing Lawrence's cause that had a field day on Wiener's issues. I'm interested if this new threshold is universal or the second a non-popular Hollywood darling (politician) has the same thing happen (hack or leak), will that threshold still stand. - Johnny from iPhone
There are fine and subtle differences between revenge porn and hacking. I also think a lot of years have passed since Weiner, and we may be living in a different time now, with a different understanding of what we expect from what's on our cameras. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Also, this may be too fine-- but Weiner's photos were ones he distributed, and that was the issue. That he distributed them, as a politician. These women, so very many women, had their cloud accounts hacked and their photos distributed without any consent. And there is also something in the consumption -- Weiner's scandal was that he shared his weiner. This scandal is that these women's... more... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
This is a really interesting case comparison, thanks for presenting it, J-Wo. - Micah
So if I had the Anthony Wiener-type pictures, I'm ok to publish them because he should have known better? - Johnny from iPhone
"On May 27, 2011, Weiner sent a link to a sexually suggestive photograph of himself via his public Twitter account[40][41] to an adult woman who was following him on Twitter.[42] After several days of denying he had posted the image,[43][44][45][46] Weiner held a press conference at which he admitted he had "exchanged messages and photos of an explicit nature with about six women over... more... - Micah
If he sent them to you, they belong to you. That's one sad lesson of the Weiner case. These women's cloud accounts/backup files were hacked. Kind of a big difference. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
You may want to look up the second scandal during his Mayoral run. - Johnny from iPhone
I'm trying to confirm that viewing and publishing people's private naked photographs are wrong because it's wrong or because it's currently happening to someone we like. - Johnny from iPhone
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I don't buy that binary, Johnny. I think it's somewhat in the public interest for the Weiner photos to be published because they are evidence of a public official's inappropriate and unwise behavior. While the only excuse for publishing the Lawrence nudes is because people want to see forbidden naked pictures of a hot celebrity. - Steele Lawman
Also, I'm not defending Wiener in the slightest. The story needed reporting. I'm specifically speaking about the publishing and viewing of intended private nude photos. The manner of their procurement isn't as relevant. - Johnny from iPhone
Steve, I have seen many news sites report on the Lawrence scandal that haven't used a single leaked image. It is possible to report on such things without displaying the "goods". - Johnny
Johnny, I have to admit I'm in a catch 22 on this one. I'll have to think about it some more. - Eric - It's My Thing
I feel like you keep moving the goalposts on me, Johnny. I didn't say that it was necessary to show the photos. If I were editor, I probably would elect not to. But I think that publishing photos that prove that a public official or candidate is in fact guilty of exposing himself to women is defensible, regardless of whether he meant them to be public. Publishing photos of a celebrity that she never intended to be public is not, because there is no "public interest" at stake besides mere prurience. - Steele Lawman
I'm not trying to move the goal posts. Maybe the confusions is over the word publishing. I'm NOT saying that the scandal can't be exposed, I'm specifically talking about hosting the photos for public consumption and individuals viewing those photos. From Lawrence's Vanity Fair article "Anybody who looked at those pictures, you’re perpetuating a sexual offense." Is looking at someone's... more... - Johnny
Another case: Hayley Williams, lead singer of Paramore, mistakenly posted a topless photo of herself on Twitter that was intended for her boyfriend. A mistake on her part. Am I ok to view that photo because she made a mistake? Is that any less of a violation than looking at Lawrence's photos? The edges of thresholds are always murky, but worth exploring. - Johnny
Maybe you aren't moving the goalposts. Maybe I just want you to agree with me 100% :) - Steele Lawman
:) - Johnny
For the record, Lawrence is about the 20th celeb to state on the record that they feel folks looking at their leaked photos are sexually assaulting them. There were scores of celebs who had their files hacked in the past month. And I do feel, quite strongly, that the manner of attainder matters a lot. These women were purposefully exposed for the titillation of the masses, violated, on... more... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
*hugs a goal post* - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Johnny, I'd say looking at naked photos of anyone that they did not themselves release for your viewing pleasure is not OK. If peeping through a curtain at a naked person is illegal, why on earth would it be ok to view stolen nudie photos? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I'm not saying it's ok. I'm not on the outside shouting in, I'm on the inside making sure that everyone is on the same page. Yes, viewing photos of anyone that they did not themselves release for your viewing pleasure is not OK. I'm wondering how quickly that threshold will be thrown under the bus the next time someone we don't like faces similar consequences. - Johnny
I guess I'm still not sure that the two cases are "similar" in most any way? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Also, I think when I finally went to see what the heck the Weiner photos actually were, they were junk-in-undies. (No more exposing than that weird John Hamm photo collection that went around, and he was fully clothed). I haven't looked at the hacked photos, but from what I gather these are *far* more personal. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
There are explicit photos out there. Simply Put: Your standard is "looking at naked photos of anyone that they did not themselves release for your viewing pleasure is not OK." Anthony Weiner did not release his pictures for your viewing pleasure, so why is looking at his photos ok or acceptable and looking at Lawrences not? - Johnny
I'm not saying looking at Weiner's photos is OK, from that baseline. I am saying, though, that the releasing of the photos served different purposes from the beginning. One was perhaps redeemable, the other not. There was a story that Weiner's photo's illustrated. The hacked leaked celebrity nude photos are the story, They illustrated nothing but fairly evil perversion. (and the... more... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
That's fine. So the question remains: in the future, if you are presented with an Anthony Weiner-like scandal that contains explicit photos, do you host/view those photos or do you just report on the photos and leave the actual images to the murky depths of 4Chan? - Johnny
Or more specifically, if you saw a website that hosted those photos, would the current outrage felt towards those sites currently distributing the naked celebs be similarly applied? - Johnny
I certainly hope the law takes any murkiness out of the picture. I think hosting and viewing these photos needs to be recognized as illegal bahavior. Theft and burglary occurred, and then the viewer is *knowingly* consuming the stolen goods. It's theft, with the added sexual component, making it assault and violation. I guess what I'm missing is the other side -- what's the argument for it being OK to view hacked, stolen, deeply private naked photos of strangers? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I'm not making that argument. I'm trying to work out if the threshold of outrage gets applied to every naked photo released without consent or to only those we deem worthy of protection. - Johnny
Sheri Tepper wrote a novel called The Others, which bothered me a lot when I read it. The Others, an alien race, came to the earth and wiped the bad people off the planet. This always bothered me -- unfair, no due process, lack of grey/redeemability, etc.. There is increasing frequency in the times I raise my hands to the universe and beg for the others to come and wipe certain parties from the earth, as no realistic solution seems possible. 4chan trolls are one of those parties. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Johnny, I think you have (at least) two different things you keep conflating. 1. Private photos, released without owners consent: should we look at them? 2. Photos released because they illustrate/tell/expose a story vs. photos stolen and released because tits are fun and chicks deserve that shit. These are two very different issues, deserving wildly different levels of outrage. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I'm not even talking about the actual scandals involved, that's something you are pushing. I am speaking about, specifically, the hosting and viewing of private photos. Regardless of the stories behind them, most of the cheerleading I have been seeing over the past couple of days says that viewing naked photos without consent of the creator is wrong. Most people, myself included, agree.... more... - Johnny
Well, I think Stephan Collins is going to have quite a little scandal without us ever seeing the inappropriate photos, since those would constitute child pornography. So, yes. The scandals apparently can occur without the photos being seen (and these are, thankfully, not even naked photos) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Yes, but if there was photos (not of the Collins case but a politician etc), would the same level of current outrage be directed at those publishing and distributing those pictures or do they get a pass because there is some "public interest" - Johnny
so the scandal does matter? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Does it? That's what I'm pushing at. If someone makes a declaration that "all private naked photos are private" but is willing to void that declaration when a big enough scandal occurs, then the original declaration has a big "but" at the end. When does that "but" come into play? Does our personal view of that person influence when that "but" occurs? I don;t come with answers, I come with questions. - Johnny
There's no way to answer without the scandal in question then! Scandal A: some trolls did evil specifically to do evil and violated a lot of people's privacy to do their evil. There should be hella outrage, and anyone who participates by viewing the photos continues to perpetrate the violence. Scandal B: Someone took photos of inappropriate and illegal behavior; scandal can break with... more... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I guess we'll see. I think Weiner was a special case -- because early, first, and the photos weren't nude (or at least the one I saw wasn't). The comparison will be if someone hacks Schwarzenegger's iCloud -- or Sandoval or Perry -- and posts nude photos. But -- that won't actually compare, because the ladies are way less likely to be driven (as a whole class) to check out the nudies than the guys are. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Given that, any declaration that "Private naked photos are private" must now come with a "but". - Johnny
I don't see a but. I see history, and perhaps our understandings of things have changed? (I think the viewing of private naked photos released to the public should fall under peeping tom laws. And possibly laws regulating the knowing consumption or purchasing of stolen goods. period.) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
"Private naked photos are private... but if you're a politician sexting your mistress (not illegal), not really." - Johnny
Mark Trapp
Every cop is so indiscriminately & over-the-top corrupt on Gotham that it really makes holding a suspension of disbelief almost impossible.
It's kinda like a reverse Batman '66 where all the cops, including Commissioner Gordon, were so bubblegum that it's like they've never seen a regular murder or real crime. - Johnny
That's a good comparison. Between their collusion with organized crime, apathy towards resolving crimes in any direction, and their brutality towards suspects, it's seems like their only motivation is "I hate whatever Gordon likes and like anything Gordon doesn't." - Mark Trapp
My favourite work emails are ones I reply to with excerpts of the other person's email tell me to do the thing they're now yelling at me for doing.
Almost as good is showing them the email telling you NOT to do something after they yell at you for NOT doing it. - Ken Gidley
Just got a reply. Sweet sweet comeuppence... all over their face, neck and chest. - Johnny
I'm too excited about NaNoWriMo too early. I can't maintain this kind of enthusiasm for over a month. How do I put emotions on hold?
You can always throw your own one for October? (OctoNaWriMo actually sounds pretty cool...) - Jennifer Dittrich
Schedule days off. Not only to give you a break but you'll probably have some "Oh, I've got an idea" moments and when you hit the pages again you'll be energised - Johnny
When I get an idea, I try to turn it into outlining, but I keep finding myself mentally writing scenes. I'm heavily basing this NaNo on myself, so it's kind of hard not to think about it. lol - Heather
I also made 2 Polyvore outfits relevant to my story. >.> - Heather
(Curtis) Alan Jackson
So the local pizza place has caramelized onions as an available topping. I got that with some pepperoni, sausage and extra cheese and it's delicious. Better than regular onions any day.
Sugar normally makes anything better. - Johnny from iPhone
Yes, that sweet onion. - Eric - It's My Thing
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