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Johnny
Just an interesting thing to note: When you directly post a photo on FriendFeed, it scrubs the file of all it's metadata.... [EDIT: Applied to those images greater than 1600 pixels in width or height or require resizing, FriendFeed keep the original if it is small enough. Thanks Bret]
Is that bad...or good? :) - Rah-PM 2012
That is also UNACCEPTABLE! I include copyright and contact info within the metadata of every photo I post anywhere on the web. Technically they are altering my file and removing critical information. Normally that would be illegal, but you probably give up that right when agreeing to their TOS! - Jeff P. Henderson
Hmmm, I'd say bad. Why does it need to do this? - Kol Tregaskes
Depends Rah. If I post a picture here directly, the information about copyright etc gets scrubbed (as with Facebook etc) rending my file an 'orphan work' essentially. I think this is more a action of the hosting company (S3?) but not sure. - Johnny
They probably re-size or compress the files for more efficient storage on their servers. Removing Metadata makes the files smaller. - Jeff P. Henderson
@johnny do you have proof? FF doesn't host the image forever right? - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Indeed Jeff. I heard a story about how much data Flickr saves by doing that to all the different sized copies of your pictures. I'm not getting out the flaming torches.... just an interesting thing to keep an eye one :) - Johnny
I have a problem with ANYONE on the web that scrubs my metadata, not just FB. This is a problem elsewhere. I believe some of the photo sharing sites were given a lot of crap for doing this in the past. I believe Zooomr did this initially, but stopped after an angry mob of photographers made a stink about it. - Jeff P. Henderson
Alfredo. I just posted a picture from Lightroom with all my data in it. I saved the hosted file and re-imported back into Lightroom. Gone. Same with a third party metadata reader. - Johnny
well that sucks. head over to FF feedback. - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
@Johnny I have a particular problem with photo sharing sites scrubbing metadata. After all there are many photographers looking to be found on these sites and if their images are found by someone who wants to license them, then there dang well better be a way for them to find out who the image belongs to. - Jeff P. Henderson
OK FriendFeed, you are now on the hot seat. Tell us why you scrub our metadata and when you will be updating your code to stop this anti customer activity! - Jeff P. Henderson
Jeff. I have the same problems to. Just making people aware until it's changed. - Johnny
We resize the photo if it is too large (greater than 1600 pixels in width or height), but we keep the original if it is small enough. - Bret Taylor
The same is true on flickr. None of the resized images have the exif data. - Rodfather
Thanks Bret, much appreciated. Again, not starting a Mob here so I will edit my original post (I rarely edit posts, if at all) - Johnny
We will look into keeping metadata for all images, by the way... My explanation was just intended to clarify what the current system does. - Bret Taylor
I know, you guys are awesomesauce like that :P - Johnny
Bret, can you clarify how FF manages images. If I upload a large image to FF, it is then downsized to display here in this thread and the metadata is removed? If that is correct, I still have a big problem with it because anyone viewing or downloading the image will not have access to my metadata. [Looks like you answered above as I was typing.] - Jeff P. Henderson
BTY, thanks Bret for piping in and participating in this thread. And for listening. - Jeff P. Henderson
Shhhhh Chris :P - Johnny
I just checked Flickr and all of the reduced size versions of your image have the Metadata stripped. This is one reason I do not post full resolution images of anything that might have value. The thumbnail and small images are pretty useless for anything so I'm not so concerned about them, but any image large enough for web use or to be printed ought to have the metadata in it. - Jeff P. Henderson
Another reason to retain metadata in all versions of images is that Google, Yahoo and probably many other search sites cache images and data. When someone finds one of my images on Google image search, I'd like them to be able to look in the metadata for my copyright and contact info. - Jeff P. Henderson
What about posting via email? - Andrew Trinh from IM
What do you mean Andrew? - Jeff P. Henderson
Posting a photo via mail2ff. - Andrew Trinh