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Google's Broken Hiring Process - Google - Gawker - http://gawker.com/5392947...
scott willeke, Will Higgins™, Jordi Gerona and 40 other people liked this
What do you know? Valleywag got everything wrong. Google is hiring, not laying off. Also, our interview scores actually correlate very well with on-the-job performance. Peter Seibel asked me if there was anything counterintuitive about the process and I said that people who got one low score but were hired anyway did well on-the-job. To me, that means the interview process is doing very well, not that it is broken. It means that we don't let one bad interview blackball a candidate. We'll keep interviewing, keep hiring, and keep analyzing the results to improve the process. And I guess Valleywag will keep doing what they do...
- Peter Norvig
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Nice shirt!
- Jim Norris
That is a nice shirt.
- τorƍue
You had at least three rounds of layoffs this year, Peter. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
- Ryan Tate
Further, while you hired a rare few people who got "1" scores on one their interviews, you rejected 99 percent of those people, and you have no idea how they would have performed. Those you did hire turned out to be top performers. Sounds broken to me. (I am the author of the Valleywag post in question.)
- Ryan Tate
Hi Ryan, thanks for commenting. First: we get over 1000 resumes a day. We can't hire all of them. I am painfully aware that a few of the people we don't hire would be as good or better than a few of the people we do. I feel bad for the people we have to reject who are equally qualified, but that is the nature of uncertain decision-making. Now what I said in the Seibel interview: we try...
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- Peter Norvig
It's a great shirt. Google is tops. No system is perfect -- so long as there's a weighting for intangibles and accounting for style differences between interviewer and interviewee, all should be fine.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Bump. Maybe Ryan didn't get a chance to see that you'd responded, Peter.
- Matt Cutts
Could you recommend any literature on data driven hiring practices? Google seems to use many analogical reasoning questions for screening applicants. It would be interesting if there was a relationship between analogical reasoning and productivity.
- Brandon Smietana
Peter, did you ever read Malcolm Gladwell's book Blink? Seems to me the other piece of the hiring process to analyze is the cost-benefit analysis - is it worth doing so many interviews and so much testing if people's first hunch is often the best indicator? (Which isn't exactly what Gladwell said, but partially).
- Laura Norvig
I'm very suspicious of relying on the first hunch. If you hired everyone based on your first hunches, you would discover that most of the time you are wrong. I've lost count of the number of times I've interviewed someone (either on-site or as a second phone interview), and learned that the previous interviewer did not ask them to write code, despite the position being one that required...
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- Piaw Na
Yeah! Always go with the _second_ hunch.
- Andrew C
Stevey's Blog Rants: Good Agile, Bad Agile - http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006...
Susan Beebe, Mark Edmondson, Chris Prince and 28 other people liked this
""This nickel-a-line-of-code gig is lame. You know where the real money is at? You start your own religion." And that's how both Extreme Programming and Scientology were born."
- Bret Taylor
From 2006, but just read it today. So many classic lines...
- Bret Taylor
"Norvig’s writeup is a short essay explaining about 100 lines of Python that can solve any Sudoku. Jeffries [inventor of XP] writeup, by contrast, is spread over five lengthy blog postings here, here, here, here, and here and ends without coming anywhere close to actually producing a program that can solve any but a tiny subset of all Sudoku problems." http://www.gigamonkeys.com/blog...
- Bret Taylor
This is so bizarre. A Sudoku board is a 9x9 grid of integers. Most basic brute force solvers can easily solve any Sudoku game. The Siebel guy talks about the representation problem as if it were some sort of question where it's reasonable that serious working programmers would have any trouble at all representing it. Hello. NINE BY NINE ARRAY. And yes, Python has two dimensional arrays: you just make an array of arrays. (Norvig's hash table is also fine, mind you.)
- ⓞnor
A cat is fine, too.
- Jim Norris
But yeah, it's the difference between writing code and solving problems.
- Jim Norris
ⓞnor, it wasn't a serious working programmer, it was some kind of TDD consultant :)
- Paul Buchheit
The Norvig vs TDD guy story is hilarious btw.
- Paul Buchheit
Funny, just the other day my friend George and I were making fun of TDD nuts. While I'm all for unit tests, it doesn't make sense to write them before you know what the code will do yet!
- Gabe
I think maybe some people are just drawn to absolutes. If something is sometimes good, then it must always be good and is the only true and right way.
- Paul Buchheit
"I think maybe some people are just drawn to absolutes." That's absurd, and I categorically disagree. Those people are absolute morons.
- Jim Norris
Paul, I remember discussing this post with you back when he wrote it, and wondering what Steve has against pair programming. I now do most of my coding with a partner, and spend a lot less time debugging than before. It's great to code review as you type -- it saves tons of testing, debugging, refactoring, and redesigning.
- Gabe
OMG... that norvig code makes me so happy in my face. <3 <3 <3
- ௸ (k2g)
I am not an expert on agile programming, but I had always thought that a big part of it was to start coding as soon as possible, instead of spending days writing up specifications. Stevey mentions that design documents are taken very seriously at google.
- Robert Felty
/2006/09/ - that's ages back then...
- A.T.
Google Wave: Technologically it is impressive but the UI needs work. Email/IM/EtherPad/FriendFeed all work better for me. It also makes me feel like I have no control over it. When you are added to a wave you cannot easily tell who did it. You have to use playback to step through the wave one at a time. This feels like a spam vector to me.
Tomonori Murakami, 'Like' robot (frɐnc), China Internet Rumors and 82 other people liked this
In that picture you'll see I've had to mute many waves to keep my inbox under control. I like a clean inbox. Since it is like email anyone can add you to a wave. But it's more real-time than email, a bit like IM, so it gets annoying. Imagine if anyone could IM you?
- Benjamin Golub
To me, it seems more like a proof-of-concept than an actual product. It has a long way to go before even early adopters embrace it fully which means it's beyond the horizon how long it would be before it begins to infiltrate the business space or the average user space.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm reminded of the way they handle Gtalk in the browser... sure, you can use it to chat with folks, but web-based Gtalk is nowhere near as compelling or refined as a good desktop IM client, at least IMHO.
- Ken Sheppardson
Oh, I disagree Ken. Gmail chat is the only IM client I use
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin, in the browser?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: yup. I don't use Adium or Google Talk or anything like that. Just the little Gmail chat moles. I love it
- Benjamin Golub
Wow. You're the first person I've met who does that. I might give that a go if I didn't have multiple accounts which makes a client like Adium necessary as far as I know.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I use it too through GMail : no intallation required :) On my HTC Phone I use it too :)
- fwed
I only use GTalk through the browser too... I don't even know how to install the client. It's nice and clean, so why do I need the client? I'm in my GMail all day anyway.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
This is correct, but it is a preview.
- Louis Gray
As for Wave, I think it's one of those things where people don't really understand how to use it effectively yet. We're all experimenting and trying to figure it out... when it becomes less of a novelty and more of a background to the way we communicate it will make more sense. But that's another reason it's in closed beta, to help Google figure all that out before they try to release it to people who aren't as willing to put up with the headaches of being the guinea pigs.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Oh, and one more thing... you can create folders to help keep your inbox clean. I just did that and it makes life a bit easier.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
One of the cool aspects of Wave is the Openness of the platform. Don't like the UI? Write your own!
- Tom Raftery
Many IM systems are more or less open. Anyone can IM me if they know my AIM account. I can simply block them if necessary. It hasn't ever created a problem for me.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Yes Jason but in that case you know who IM'd you. In it's current state it is very difficult to tell who added you to a wave. I understand this is a preview and that other UIs can be built on top of it.
- Benjamin Golub
Is there an option to disable real-time-type? What if things were said that weren't meant to be said?
- brainno722 (Peter)
Benjamin, my take is that people are playing, pushing, experimenting, and that things will calm down eventually as etiquette comes into things :). And Peter, no one can see what you're typing or what you've typed until you add them as participants to your wave (if you're writing a wave solo), and eventually, the "draft" option will be enabled so you can also temporarily hide your typing on a populated wave.
- Adam Lasnik
Also Wave contacts are all of my Google contacts instead of just "My Contacts". There's a lot of people in there that I've just have random encounters with on mailing lists that I don't need in my wave contacts
- Benjamin Golub
I want a communications tool that lowers my anxiety, not blows it through the roof.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, I remember people saying that about FriendFeed when it first launched
- Jesse Stay
that's my hope - that the Google Wave team can iterate quickly on some of the more annoying social issues like FriendFeed did
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse, that's a very fair point. I remember thinking 'but it just launched today and everyone's here talking about it, so of course it's crazy busy!' Same is probably true with Wave. Looking forward to low tide.
- Kevin Fox
Yeah - can't wait to see what it becomes. I'm also very interested in who (hint, hint) decides to integrate Wave protocol into their own products.
- Jesse Stay
"Email/IM/EtherPad/FriendFeed all work better for me" - I second that. I kind of wanted to try use Wave a bit like Friendfeed (as in link blog + discussions... it would come in handy as Friendfeed is censored here in China), but I don't think it supports that at all. Some people even got annoyed -- "I want to treat Wave as my email client -- don't share my contact details with so many...
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- Philipp Lenssen
Philipp, I fear that the learning period won't get us anywhere as there is no activity for which Wave seems better than other products. Twitter had a successful learning period because it had one initial purpose (status update) which was clear for early adopters and for which Twitter was obviously the "killer app". Later, the community found other purposes for which Twitter was great...
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- Jérôme Flipo
That's a very relevant point, Jérôme
- Stanislas Jourdan
IMO, there's a reason why we differentiate email from IM from document: not only because of technological evolution and limitations but because we want specific tools for specific activities. There may be some situations where one Wave is better than a combo of three tools but I think our long experience with old products will make difficult to change our habits: those habits are very strong as they've been challenged many, many times in the past.
- Jérôme Flipo
Can you give one purpose for which Wave does a better job than one or few existing apps? For this purpose, would you argue with your friends/co-workers to persuade them of Wave's superiority?
- Jérôme Flipo
@Jérôme: Sure thing. Having a long, complicated discussion about almost any topic. Our team has been using it for months internally as a replacement for complex email discussions, especially about design. Email threads of this sort rapidly diverge to total chaos as the number of participants increases. Gmail does its best to try and sort out the quoting context and such, but it...
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- Joel Webber
We've tried just about every combination of shared docs, wikis, bug trackers, IRC, IM, telephones, and VC that you can imagine. And the end result is that wave tends to work better than almost all of them. We even use VC a lot less now -- and even when we do, we usually use waves for notes, sharing code snippets, and such, because it's often better than projecting.
- Joel Webber
Joel, how is it different than an IM room?
- Todd Hoff
An IM room doesn't let you go back and edit anything. During design discussions using Wave, people reply to specific parts, and others use that information to edit the document. You've have to open two windows to get this effect with something like IM + Google Docs. This is amplified by the fact that with gadgets, you can have people drawing diagrams and other stuff inline. I've even...
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- Ray Cromwell
I would also keep in mind that Wave isn't just a client/app, it's a platform+protocol. There is no single email client. You have SMTP+IMAP/POP. Lots of people have built differing client UIs on top of this foundation. If you want EtherPad, you could build a client on top of the Wave protocol probably. You could also do IM too. I would look at Wave as more than just the web app, but try and imagine it as a foundation for Email/EtherPad/FriendFeed/etc.
- Ray Cromwell
Ray: I think that's a pretty important point. People are comparing Wave to "email". They're not comparing it to Outlook, or Thunderbird, or pine, or Gmail, etc. Writing off Wave because you don't like the current preview app is a bit like writing off "email" because you don't like Outlook.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken++
- Chris Heath
Ray that seems a bit like the juicy document mode vs thread mode wars in wikis :-) Thread mode content usually needs to be edited into document mode after a conversation has gone on for a while. Just wondering how you know where the document view is in a conversation? And by protocol that means stanzas for XMPP that encode different payload types and a GUI that knows what do with them? Standardizing that is a cool thing.
- Todd Hoff
@Joel: I see tons of reasons to use Wave (the product and the protocol). What I am skeptical about is late adopters' willingness/reflex to use Wave if they couldn't identify one obvious reason to adopt it during their very first experiences with Wave. I've convinced many friends and co-workers to use Docs in the past two years, but it was very hard: they knew it could be great, they had...
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- Jérôme Flipo
I think you could probably rewind history 30 years and say the same thing about email, Jérôme.
- Ken Sheppardson
The waves should work more as a document. Adhoc communication (chats) should be attached to the wave/blip and not be part of the wave itself. The chats should not only appear in the corresponding wave/blip but also at the involved contacts (chat history). this would keep all the noise off the wave.
- Alexander Rode
I'm still waiting on my invite. Grrr. But the way I really want to test it is as an internal communication system for coworkers, and as an alternative to a learning management system for online classrooms.
- marziah
Some people wake up with a headache and a new tattoo. I woke up with a headache and a new domain name.
Henner Zeller, phil, ௸ (k2g) and 5 other people liked this
I hope it's not a .info domain.
- Jeremy Hylton
.museum perhaps?
- Daniel Dulitz
Why Are Men So Crazy About Crazy Women? | The Frisky - http://www.thefrisky.com/post...
Samuel Agaba, Anthony Citrano, Type Micah and 14 other people liked this
Any guys want to chime in on whether these are accurate?
- niniane
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The article summary is: 1. Men want to "fix" these women. 2. She's probably crazy in the sack too. 3. It reminds him of his mom who also acted crazy. 4. She has bigger problems than he does, so he feels good about his life in comparison. 5. He's not ready for a deep commitment, so he subconsciously chooses relationships that won't work out.
- niniane
Crazy is hot
- RAPatton
I think *people* are intrigued by crazy. Because it's more exciting and unusual.
- anna sauce
Most of those sound like they could work for women who like crazy men, too.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
10. Men aren't really crazy about crazy women. It's only the crazy women that think so. :)
- Cristo
I think 5 is a subset of 'he has self-destructive tendencies'.
- Andrew C
Being intrigued is different from actually dating them.
- niniane
A relationship with a crazy chick won't usually last. So it's wild monkey loving to start, and then you are handed a bunch of reasons to end the relationship without feeling guilty. '
- Morgan Haley
Oh that's interesting (re Morgan). I guess it's good for people who get easily stuck.
- niniane
Yeah, those all sound like reasons for a lot of my past relationships (except for the one about the mother, my mom's not crazy), but RAPatton summed up my feelings exactly.
- Derek Coward
Is crazy a multiplier onto hot (i.e. a hot chick who is crazy is even hotter), or is it an additive (i.e. a frumpy woman who acts crazy is transformed into hot)?
- niniane
Neither. Hot woman are hot because they're hot. If they're crazy, that just means you'll date them for only a short time. If she's frumpy and crazy, and you want to date her, you should just check yourself into a mental institution.
- Cristo
If you can deal with the drama and craziness when you are in the relationship, and assuming there is no shooting spree or murder/suicide type thing that happens when the break up comes, dating crazy chicks is like a guys dream come true. but it will take years off of you a little bit faster.
- Morgan Haley
Morgan, I don't know why you think it's a guy's dream come true. Maybe you're thinking of different crazy than I am, but there is a lot of things that can go wrong that make it not fun.
- Cristo
Cristo - yeah, i prefer the relationships that don't end with me dead or injured
- Morgan Haley
Or financially or emotionally damaged.
- Cristo
Amen!
- Morgan Haley
The reason that makes the most sense to me is Morgan's "So it's wild monkey loving to start, and then you are handed a bunch of reasons to end the relationship without feeling guilty."
- niniane
This kind of assumes guys are looking for excuses to date lots of women and not commit, rather than looking for the right one. Also, I haven't experienced the strong correlation between great sex and crazy women. Some are crazy and sexy, and some are just crazy.
- Cristo
Wait, there's "crazy" and there's "would be diagnosed with a serious issue from the DSM." "Crazy" is a derogatory term, not a clinical one, often used by conservative women to describe less conservative women. In that sense, crazy women are hot because they say yes to new experiences.
- Daniel Dulitz
I think it's used to describe emotional rollercoasters: people who unpredictably fly into a rage, or weep for hours, or become suicidal, etc. I don't often hear it used to describe less-conservative women, like "Look at how short that skirt is -- she's crazy!" I've never heard that.
- niniane
i've never been into crazy women. in fact, i've always kept away. i had enough problems by myself in my single days without taking on someone else's.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
As far as "diagnosed with a serious issue from the DSM," I would analyze those differently. For some (psychosis, extreme neurosis, major manic-depressive), I'd have to worry about people who found them hot (and no one I know does). For others, mild manic-depressive comes to mind, there's something to be said for going along for that ride. Specifically "mild" would mean _not_ unpredictably flying into rages, weeping for hours, or becoming suicidal.
- Daniel Dulitz
"Wow, she's so sexy and crazy. Look, all my clothes are on fire in the front lawn. This is way more fun then some conservative woman." ;)
- Cristo
The kind of crazy my crazy-fetish friends end up dating seems to be all about saying NFW OVER MY DEAD BODY!!! to new experiences (though I can see why it would appeal)
- ௸ (k2g)
"diagnosed with a serious issue from the DSM" was me in the 80s and 90s. IMMA FEELIN' MUCH BETTAH NAO!!
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Maybe guys like "creative women": http://friendfeed.com/mvanden...
- Cristo
I have definitely heard people say that someone who would go climbing (or skydiving) is crazy. Or that someone who would go to the Power Exchange is crazy. Or that someone who would go to a strip club is crazy. Or that someone who likes to be spanked is crazy. In fact, many of my friends in South Dakota would agree to all four of those.
- Daniel Dulitz
So you're defining crazy as adventurous? Do you have a new word for really crazy? I'm sure there are plenty of women (and men) that haven't been diagnosed as mentally unstable, that are.
- Cristo
i've been to South Dakota. i nearly died in South Dakota. people in glass houses and so on. :D
- Joe Silence is not Santa
௸, yes, there is that opposites attract thing. Super-stable people seem to end up with unstable people; maybe it gives access to something each doesn't have as an individual. Cristo, I'm not defining crazy as adventurous, but many people do define crazy as "too adventurous for them."
- Daniel Dulitz
I don't think when people say "why does X keep dating that crazy woman?" they're talking about a woman who likes to skydive and go to strip clubs.
- niniane
In my experience, lots of skydivers like to date other skydivers. Same for climbers. There are "opposites attract" couples, but I haven't found it to be the norm.
- Cristo
Then I don't agree with the premise of the article. Some guys and girls prefer to be with people who don't have their acts together. There's lots of analysis about why children of substance abusers marry substance abusers, for example. But neither guys nor girls _in general_ prefer that, in my experience. To the original article in Frisky, someone might sleep with their "crazy ex" not...
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- Daniel Dulitz
One example of a crazy woman might be: 1) she can't keep still for a few minutes, 2) she buys many houses with leveraged loans, 3) she only keeps champagne in her refrigerator, 4) she won't eat anything unless she sees it prepared, 5) she's afraid of being alone without the television on, 6) she dreams of having 10 kids, all of them twins, 7) she's only seen one movie: The Sound of...
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- Cristo
In fact there was a Cosmo quiz around 1990 that was for "your guy." One question was, basically, who do you fantasize about: celebrities, the girl next door, ex-girlfriends, or all of the above. They thought that if your guy didn't answer all of the above he was lying.
- Daniel Dulitz
Define "fantasize". I remember things I've done with ex-girlfriends, but I don't masturbate to them.
- Cristo
So Cristo, some of those are charming. Like someone who wants to keep their car irrationally clean and won't eat random foods just because. Could get tiresome after a while, but in moderation, kinda cool. I wouldn't call it "sexy" though, just charming. Re: fantasize, I don't remember their question, but I recall they implied something pretty intense. And FWIW my truthful answer wasn't "all of the above." :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
I don't find any of the items I listed as particularly charming. Weird. Somewhat interesting maybe, but not for someone I want to close my eyes with them in the house at night. I wasn't treating them separately though. I was trying to create a crazy woman in my head. There may be some truth there from my past. :)
- Cristo
The question of the hour is when does quirky cross the line. Because quirky really is cool.
- Daniel Dulitz
Right, there's a line. Unique is cool. Crazy is not.
- Cristo
I'm attracted to redheads. And Japanese women. Redheaded Japanese women, omg. If they're crazy, well... *shrug*
- Arlan Koizumi
As long as they're crazy where it counts, I'm all about crazy chicks ;)
- LarchOye
I long ago decided that all women (and probably men) are crazy - the trick to a successful relationship is finding the flavor of crazy that doesn't drive YOU crazy.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
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- Billy Warhol
“He forgot there was a number lower than one percent." – Derek Sivers, http://sivers.org/1pct
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Official Google Blog: Place Pages for Google Maps: There are places we remember! - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
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A particularly cool part of this launch is that we now have canonical, human-readable urls for many place (not all places have them yet), e.g. http://maps.google.com/places....
- Evan Parker
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haha. I can't wait.
- shapish
Did you get your visa? :)
- Tobias Boonstoppel
Reporters: You lose all credibility when you say "computer servers" or "computer codes." Are you "people reporters" who write "copies"?
Ben Griffiths, ௸ (k2g) and Adewale Oshineye liked this
My Dad is never going to believe that his Snow Leopard upgrade didn't cause his gmail to break.
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It was Jessamyn's dad! Get him!
- s t e v e
Free the H-1Bs, Free the Economy ('95-'05 52% of companies in Silicon Valley started by immigrants, 44% in NY) http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
τorƍue, Paul Buchheit, Tibor Holoda and 13 other people liked this
It never ceases to amaze me that we're still having to argue about this -- are there *seriously* still people who don't understand the value brought to the US (and other countries) by intelligent, hard working immigrants? Of course, the answer is sadly yes, as evidenced by the idiots in the comments on this article :P
- Joel Webber
I'm going to feed on you! Hsshaahhh - http://bohemea.tumblr.com/post...
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Yes, please.
- Derrick
Really.
- Ayşe E.
Hell, I'm down.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Eric, I invite you into my home. Now.
- EricaJoy
Is there something you can say to prevent a vampire from leaving your home?
- Cheryl
this thread is too funny
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Docs and Google Talk are out of beta (yes, really) - http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
Phong (Paul) Vo, ௸ (k2g), Sebastian and 27 other people liked this
applications will no longer develop? :P
- internettin abi
Holy shit
- Mitch
Fwd: Warning: This May Make Your Heart Explode - Baby hedgehogs brush - Jezebel - http://jezebel.com/5341031... (via http://friendfeed.com/soup)
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Courtesy of Soup.
- Anne Bouey
"Rarely do cuteness and tragedy come together so achingly: these orphaned baby hedgehogs have been clinging to this stiff-bristled brush because it reminds them of their mother. "
- Anne Bouey
Gosh, that was two years ago. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
- Andrew C
Cool
- Kevin J Hatton
:'O
- ௸ (k2g)
did someone say « Lolcats ‘n’ Funny Pictures of Cats – I Can Has Cheezburger? - http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009...
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Awww
- j1m
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http://twitpic.com/eif6z - My new bear hat. Only $15!
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Very Luna Lovegood! (And I mean that in a complimentary way.)
- Spidra Webster
I think life is better if you choose to trust people a little more. Something about reality being a mirror.
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I'm sure this seems naive to many.
- Paul Buchheit
i'm naive by nature, but always honest, :)
- chaz2b
I wish this was true in our country. Relative to other cultures, we have much to learn.
- Akshay Dodeja
people can be trusted, groups less and organizations never (sorry, I should also add "by me as a general rule")
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Are you saying... to chill out?
- Josh Haley
Too many people complaining, I guess. Indeed, trust is something rare in the cynical times we live in.
- Jordi Soler
I believe people who are questioning will trust more when they get more clarity. In the absence of answers, speculation fills the gap.
- Louis Gray
hey man I trust loads more people online than off and I certainly trust the FFolk. These guys are no fools to build what they built and sell what they sold.
- Thomas Power
Unfortunately clarity takes time. Life is inherently unpredictable.
- Paul Buchheit
PB I am happy to wait take your time and yes I trust you all the whole team.
- Thomas Power
It's precisely because I viewed FF as a collection of people that I invested trust with them - so yes I'm waiting for the clarity that I trust will come and hope your allowed to share it by the new boss.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I couldn't agree with you more Paul. (congrats BTW) I just hope bigger companies also realize the same thing, we will treat them the same way they treat us. With FF I think we all felt like part of the team, communication was open and two-way..it brought the passion out of all of us.
- Chris Myles
I ain't no naysayer I am a true FFsupporter. Go PB Bear x
- Thomas Power
i don't think ppl always like what they see...perhaps why they choice to treat others badly : reflecting their own ugly.
- :}(o|O){:
Oh, I could tell you stories about how I trusted people and was let down, betrayed, and backstabbed. Cynicism is not without precedent.
- Morton Fox
I don't think it's naive, you definitely live better when you are not constantly thinking if people are trying to scam you.
- Amit Morson
It's not good to call a bluff on people/anything before you understand the situation. On trusting people a little more....that's fine. However, it's a very thin line because people are different and unique in many aspects.We can do much more if we remove the slyness that have destroyed capitalism.
- Symon Muchina Thuo
BTW, I like the little "Add comment" thingy. Good going.
- Amit Morson
If I went with optimism, I would prefer cautious optimism over blind optimism.
- Morton Fox
culturally it seems cynicism is a means for people to cope with irony
- :}(o|O){:
I trust the FF team. As I said before I doubt they'll let FB take over and do messy things. They worked too hard to let them do that.
- Molly, "sorry"
I always give people a bit of trust, and it works out. There have been very few people that have lost the trust I gave them. I expect the best from everyone, and most return the favor. As for thinks like FF, well I don't have a lot of experience and I'm not super attached to the current workings, so I'm just waiting patiently to see what happens. I didn't join for the system, I joined for the people and the content. ^_^
- Heather
ana, that is why trust is required :)
- Paul Buchheit
It sounds like you've gained some confidence in yourself. That's always a plus.
- Wallace
I love FF. You guys have done a great job, and I have no doubt you will continue to do so. Some may have acted more on emotions than needed. However, when you end up being too trustworthy for too long, you tend to get burned. It's cheesy, it's a cliche, but it happens. I know I'm not one of the big ones here, but earlier today, in my completely zombified state, I decided to just roll...
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- Matthew Horton
I don't like how some people are thinking you "sold out" because you were bought by FB, because you needed the money and if you didn't get it what would happen? I think people are pissed off mainly because FB was the service that bought it. What if Myspace or Micorsoft bought FF? I bet there would be more people (including myself) who would totally lose trust in you guys.
- Molly, "sorry"
Some people are going to take this cryptic post as "Friendfeed will remain a separate entity and will continue to be developed, but I just can't reveal that yet." If that's not what ends up happening -- as seems almost certainly to be the case -- many FFers will hold it against you. I don't believe that's what you're saying, but many will. I imagine the fact that the reaction is mostly...
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- Christopher A Carr
Christopher - I think Paul should start writing even more cryptic posts to /really/ mess with people.
- Andrew C
He seems busting at the seems to talk about *something* he knows, I just doubt that something will really be all that reassuring.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, you're reading too much into this (as are most people here). I really do mean it as a general point about life. The truth is that I don't know exactly what the future holds, and neither does anyone else.
- Paul Buchheit
I have been through a few recent experiences where my apprehensions and concerns about the honesty and the intent of people have been proven wrong. I guess some of us need to go through this phase of realization before we can start trusting people a bit easier than before.
- Jassim
Paul: I was saying that I'm not reading that into your post, but many people will. In light of circumstances, posting something like that is going to be heavily interpreted, right?
- Christopher A Carr
I guess I'm in what some people might think of "denial". I want to think positively instead of being cynical. Being cynical to me is negative and doesn't solve a damn thing. Being positive about anything this day and age is a bad thing, I guess. People view positive feelings as being "in denial" which IMHO is a bunch of bullcrap.
- Molly, "sorry"
Depressing country music comes to mind... the dog ran away and the truck died, sad tune... *Sigh*
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Perhaps more to the point: Most here may trust the former FF team, but many don't trust Facebook.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, I think that is the main point. It was interesting to see Matt Cutts post his congrats via a FF post, but also mention that he hopes the FF team brings some openness to the FB. That is part of the trust thing. Even Microsoft is more trustworthy than FB right now and everyone knows that a team of talented devs getting swallowed up by an untrustworthy corp typically makes no difference to the corp's culture.
- Travis Koger
I hate Facebook
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Software is scalable to huge customer bases.. Customer support, feedback, and expectations don't scale as easily!!
- Chris Myles
Travis: Yep.
- Christopher A Carr
I had to admit, even though I like FB a lot, they have done some things I'm not happy with. I'm hoping they don't mess with FF too much or I won't go there anymore.
- Molly, "sorry"
@Paul, I will stretch my trust a bit further to see how this washes out for the FF team, but in my view trust is always based on the actions and the way this has been handled, given that you are well aware of your rabid fan base, is not good for maintaining trust. I would have actually preferred that FF be bought my Microsoft (I know MS haters, perish the thought), but at the moment I...
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- Travis Koger
Thing is, every single FF user with a FB account could go delete their Facebook account, and Facebook would barely notice. So it's hard to believe that that they care -- why should they?
- Christopher A Carr
Totally agree Christopher. The FF crowd are such a small bag that they do not care. The reason why I would prefer MS is that they would care because they are clawing marketshare with any means, each little grab of users for them means a lot more then it does to FB, who as we all know don't even care about their existing 250-300mill.
- Travis Koger
Travis: You do know that MS is FB's single largest investor by far, right? For all practical purposes, MS bought FF as much as FB did
- LANjackal
LANjackal, yeah, but I am not sure about single largest? Particularly since the valuation that they bought in at was a lot higher than the current valuation from the recent buy in, so I think their shareholding is a tiny bit smaller now. There is still competition between the two for users, as there is from Google and twitter etc.
- Travis Koger
Hmm, I don't like mirrors...
- Mo Kargas
Lanjackal, I told like you to one of my friends feed yesterday, you are right!
- muratt
Travis: FB isn't publicly traded, and MS has given them more funding than anyone else, period. No one else has come close to the $240M MS poured into FB
- LANjackal
muratt: Thanks, appreciated
- LANjackal
Travis: You don't think the Bing search results integrated with FB search results are accidental, do you? That said, I'm not one of those people who believes everything MS is bad. So far they've done well allowing FB to grow as they have. I've been with FB since 2004 so I have more faith in them than the average person. I'm giving them time to see how this all shakes out, and putting a lil trust in the FF devs too
- LANjackal
LANjackal, absolutely not, I know that was part of the investment and obviously worth a shed load more than the original 240M. I did think though that they had just received 200M from a russian company and have received other similar size investments from other companies. Don't get me wrong, I am not a total FB hater, if they do right by FF then I will absolutely stick around. What I...
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- Travis Koger
This is a smart approach. Trust...but verify. As much as many of us chuckled at Reagan in the 80s (OK, as much as some of us old guys chuckled) that's not a bad philosophy; it's what we do in day-to-day life, anyway. If we didn't implicitly trust most of the people we interacted with daily life would be chaos. Oh, and "naive" is the way we act on a daily basis.
- Tom Guarriello
Oh, and one more thing. I think the difference between the public reaction to FB buying FF and Amazon buying Zappos is fascinating.
- Tom Guarriello
I have actually more trust in FB than I have in Amazon - FB has not yet had the kind of anti competitive practices that Amazon has had in the last few years. If it had an easier way to ignore most apps, and reined their lawyers when revising T&Cs, FB would be positively peachy :)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Reality is a mirror. We will manifest in life what we continue to see and be. If we find that we continually cannot or do not trust people, it is often because we ourselves are not trustworthy. Give situations time to sort out before you automatically assume that the worst will come about.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Paul, I take your point. This is how I've gone through my entire life, with varying degrees of success. But I should tell you because of this I've been burned many, many times and have the emotional scars to prove it. It is not a statement to be made lightly (not that I think this is what you were doing).
- Jim Is Not Smart
I think most people would like to trust but most people have been disappointed before so when one cares about something or someone might tend to create negative mental scenarios as a mechanism to protect oneself from another disappointment and not to appear a fool once again.
- M F
Cautious optimism is how I proceed. However, I've been involved in and project managed through many acquisitions, and usually the acquiree gets fed a bunch of bs about how they'll be able to control their destiny and keep their baby running. But I don't think I've ever seen that actually happen. I hope it might, in this case, but I feel like so much cannon fodder at this point.
- Rick Cogley
@rick - touche
- Monique
@PaulToo / Paul Buchheit you say "Unfortunately clarity takes time." This is really where I think many people take issue, why did you sell the company without getting a more firm road-map for how things were going to go (which you could have then announced)? Unless you basically said: "OK, just give us the money and we'll let things sort themselves out later." Which is of course your...
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- Alex Schleber
Are people forgetting that Paul sunk millions of his own money into FF? Unless FF was a 503c Foundation, he can't be faulted for seeking to recoup that, and with big players copying FF features every day, there was a risk to FF's future. I'm somewhat saddened by what happened, but happy for Paul, but either way, FF introduced a bunch of concepts that will now be copied by other...
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- Ray Cromwell
I like the sentiment to stay open and trusting. Life is too short to do otherwise. And since there is a lot of talk about the facebook deal on this thread guess I'll throw in my 2c there too -- which is, congratulations on another successful venture Paul. Very impressive and facebook will be better as a result. If FF gets lost in the shuffle that just means someone has to go out there and start another venture ;)
- Thomas Mader
@cromwellian, that's why I used the words "which is of course your prerogative"..business is business, fine. I congratulate the FF team on their business win. But then don't mix categories and try to bring social issues like "trust" back in through the backdoor. After Beacon et al. FB PR disasters, do you trust Zuckerberg/FB with a darn thing? You yourself seem to think similarly by saying you're "kinda resigned that it's long term fate is not in the cards." My point exactly..
- Alex Schleber
@Guruvan BTW I disagree with you that this has anything to with LOA/Projection type stuff..the point is we all trusted FB in the beginning..a long time ago. Did we attract their multiple mis-behaviors into our shared reality somehow?!?
- Alex Schleber
More accurately, life is better when people are trustworthy.
- Tanath
Alex: I have spent about 10 hours of my life with Mark Zuckerberg. I think he is a lot more trustworthy than most business leaders I have met.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Scobleizer, which isn't saying that much, would you agree? :) It is after all the same Mark Zuckerberg that handed out business cards reading "I'm CEO, Bitch" not all that long ago..
- Alex Schleber
How does facebook reconcile talking about openness but trying to prevent other services from gaining traction by blocking the flow of information out of facebook that would enable smaller networks to compete? It looks like facebook is trying to become the entire web experience for users.
- Ru Viljoen
I've been through too many mergers and acquisitions to trust anything the buying corporation says.
- Alex Scoble
yeah u need to trust now because you gave away control. i think it was a silly move. i still think that friendfeed could have turned the tide by itself,...with proper profiles and people search. now all you can do is hoping you didn't got fooled
- Chris Hofmann
Schleber: damn, I didn't get one of those cards from him and had to drag him into a Time Magazine party. He didn't want to go because he didn't have an invite. I think that's the last time that I'll have an invite to something he doesn't have. But, seriously, I love how we blow out of proportion people like him.
- Robert Scoble
Alex Scoble: I assume the worst and when the best happens, I'm surprised. That said, Zuckerberg and Facebook has never stabbed me in the back or been jerks the way some other companies have been.
- Robert Scoble
If facebook succeeds it will lead to a period where innovation stagnates, and finally the largest task for facebook is to wrest power from google, and I personally do not want that to happen.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: if you think Facebook is stagnating, I think you are smoking some good dope. Remember, FriendFeed couldn't take off because Facebook was too fast a follower. Many of my favorite friends from across the industry are now working there. Don't underestimate this company.
- Robert Scoble
Plus they stole Google's sushi chef and he's freaking awesome.
- Robert Scoble
Any company in Silicon Valley who is powered by sushi is unstoppable. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I don't think that, I think facebook is brilliant and incredibly innovative, I mean it will go that way if they become too dominant in the comprehensive web experiance.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: Facebook is the next Google.
- Robert Scoble
I have never heard of any company continuing to drive innovation as google has after acquiring a monopolistic majority, that is why I do not want it to be replaced.
- Ru Viljoen
Facebook never stabbed you in the back? :) http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Louis Gray
I was thinking about that Louis.
- Alejandro
I think he is right, social search is better than legions of anonymous results. Facebook leads social so when they master search they will undermine google.
- Ru Viljoen
yeah but the content that is dragged into FB is still much more limited to what google can crawl.
- Chris Hofmann
What exactly are you referring to by "social search," Ru?
- Christopher A Carr
If I'm trying to figure out who *among my FB friends* has the cutest new baby, or the highest ranking on Farmtown, then FB is certainly superb.
- Christopher A Carr
Search results relative to people you know. So far facebook has focused on features and usability to grow its userbase, but it looks really obvious that they will then try to use that social network to create a search engine that uses your acquaintances to serve you recommendations or search results and people will love that.
- Ru Viljoen
Wait, what?
- Derrick
thats what friendfeed has been doing already
- Chris Hofmann
Ru: I could see that were FF as large as FB. My aunties and uncles on FB don't really know much about my interests or preferences. Won't FB have to radically restructure the network -- FoaF, and such?
- Christopher A Carr
i think that is the point of getting the friendfeed guys in the firstplace
- Chris Hofmann
In that case, there's so much legacy cruft in FB, why not build from FF's foundation if they're going to have to tear things down anyway?
- Christopher A Carr
Actually Paul, there is a famous wise American Caver named Donald Davis. Cavers find cave. Caves are a kind of form of Shrodingers Cat, we never know where more cave is until we find it. Davis postulated in the 60's that the cavers create the cave in their minds.
- Robert Higgins
FF is interests/information-centric. FB is people you happen to have encountered physically-centric.
- Christopher A Carr
It might be a hell of a lot of work but still that is where they will go. Bear in mind they have just released facebook lite and their explanation of it being for low brandwidth areas and mobiles smells like BS, but that is too speculative, fact is they can create that infrastructure with enough money, talent and users.
- Ru Viljoen
But they have 1/3 of a billion users with old expectations to placate. How radical can they be?
- Christopher A Carr
Well until it is done who knows how much behaviour will be shaken up, but they can be quite radical and people will not leave because how do you communicate with school friends and grandma if you leave?
- Ru Viljoen
It would seem extremely difficult to me to build a new house by ripping out a piece of the old house and replacing it, one piece at a time -- and starting from the roof. At best, for much of the process you'll have an ugly-ass Franken-house -- which is a good description of the state of affairs at FB.
- Christopher A Carr
Paul we trust you not to stab Friendfeed in the back, but to infiltrate and take over Facebook
- Robert Higgins
:) I can haz sleep nao.
- Eric Logan
No, Eric...it's only 4:48PM. :-)
- Christopher A Carr
hahaha well I hope facebook remains a secure place to chat to our real friends and some form of friendfeed lives on and grows for our edgy web friends. Sleepytime 01:49 here
- Ru Viljoen
I imagine you and the rest of the FF gang are stinging a bit (perhaps you didn't expect the backlash to be as... well, passionate as it was?) but, in my experience, trust is something that has to be earned and it's usually something I only give to people I know personally. Generous trust has almost always repaid me negatively so I'm loathe to just hand it out. I'm a cynical, old, cranky...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
I have a long held belief that trust is something meant to be earned, not something you are entitled to from the start, and once shattered it is difficult, but not impossible, to regain. And Trust travels with a companion called Respect. They are 2 sides of the same coin.
- April Russo (app103)
Wow Akiva!! 'monster off the leash'. I feel your hurt emotions, really deep!
- Myrna
Eh, I've entered into the acceptance stage. Things are as they are.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My response was you are worth way more than 50M!
- E-Advocate Network
WAYYYYY MORE (than 50M)!!
- Chris Myles
life is better when you trust in others.
- amelia arapoff
Friendfeed 2018 - http://blogoscoped.com/friendf...
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Why is Twitter shutting down in 2012?
- Steve Rubel
Plus it will have lots more (Google) Services added to it :-)
- Martin Rix (Mrrix32)
@Steve I don't think it means Twitter is shutting down. I think it means Twitter will bar FriendFeed from using its feed ;-)
- Rubin Sfadj
This is too kewl
- Peter Dawson
Hilarious - may all come to pass before 2018.
- Todd McKinney
Love it. But 2018? I'd except to be able to get Friend.com directly through the HUD in my flying car by then... Only silversurfers (like us) would still use "web browsers" in 2018.
- Tony Ruscoe
Twitter feed not available? That may come to pass at 10:30.
- Bill Bittner
And what's up with "low karma comments"? I thought the karma thing left us in the seventies... but yes, everything comes on cycles...
- Alex von Halem
awesome.
- Tobias Boonstoppel
You've got the Google thing backwards :)
- Paul Buchheit
Hey, I just noticed I'm in the screenshot. :D @Paul: ? What's backwards, where?
- Voyagerfan5761
Actually, it missed one important thing - a HUGE ad, taking up the top half of the screen, for a substance that is just as effective as Viagra (which was banned in 2011).
- Ontario Emperor
I think Paul's saying that in 2018 ff will own google
- j1m
It's comforting that hitting monkeys will still be as popular in 2018 as they are now.
- Ginger Makela Riker
One thing they got wrong: by 2012, Paul will have started his own country southwest of Alaska on an artificial island. It'll be called Free Festivusland, and it'll get the top-level domain “ff”. FriendFeed will then be http://ff/ — no dots or coms or nets or orgs.
- Amit Patel
@Amit P. ROFL .. very funny
- Steven Hodson
@Jason lol :D
- Voyagerfan5761
I think the web will be voice and audio driven in 10 years, or at least it will be available. There's even some startup now that can sense nerve pulses to the vocal chords to know what you'll say before you actually say it.
- Mike Reynolds
I think comments won't be replaced by nested commented, just like @ in twitter, many people like this.
- terababy
Mike Reynolds, now I'm scared. Very scared. I'll get myself in trouble before I actually hear what I'm saying (rather than after).
- Ontario Emperor
For some reason, the Facebook deal makes this future user interface look more likely.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
The Creators and the Rulers - http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2009...
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Very high intelligence actually negatively correlates with career success. That's very believable.
- Piaw Na
So that's my problem, lol
- Mr. Gunn
Ha! Next time an interviewer asks about my "worst qualities", I'll claim to have a stratospheric IQ, then cite this post! (Beats the usual answer -- "I'm a perfectionist and a workaholic".)
- Bill Hooker
Lets Trade Places: Married for Single Life - w4mw - http://www.craigslist.org/about...
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Wow, that doesn't sound crazy at all! {backs away slowly}
- Andrew C
it seems sort of like a fundamental misunderstanding of how relationships work, as though you could ever get an accurate picture/impression of marriage by that method or that it would somehow apply to all possible relationships/marriages
- bob
Wanted: One Male Bed-Filler - http://www.craigslist.org/about... - from a couple of years ago, but I wonder if it's by the same author. I know, the ages don't quite match up.
- Andrew C
I don't get it, why would anyone want to try married life?
- j1m
For Today’s Graduate, Just One Word - Statistics - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
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Carrie getting some much deserved attention. "Ms. Grimes is an Internet-age statistician, one of many who are changing the image of the profession as a place for dronish number nerds. They are finding themselves increasingly in demand — and even cool. “I keep saying that the sexy job in the next 10 years will be statisticians,” said Hal Varian, chief economist at Google. “And I’m not kidding.”"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Great article, but it left out that statisticians need some CS muscle to effectively operate on large scale data. It's the combination that make Carrie -- and others like her -- 'Internet-age' statisticians.
- Michael E. Driscoll
Michael, plenty of CS muscle, and also training in specialized packages like/from the SAS http://www.sas.com/technol... etc.
- ianf ⌘
PhoenixFeather Photo Stories - Orion is a Star! #orionfosterkitten #foxfosterkittens - http://stories.phoenixfeather.net/18-orio...
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Orion was pretty much fur and bones when he first got here. You could feel every rib and vertebrae not to mention his hip bones all jutting out there. He was tiny and and pathetic. In just a week so far he has filled in some and become a boisterous happy little boy ready to take over the world!
- Rachel Lea Fox
from Bookmarklet
off to FF Feedback to request a 'love' link in addition to the 'like' one...
- metalerik
*lol* thanks metalerik. Orion can deliver the message for you, he is taking an outing to FriendFeed GWHQ shortly!
- Rachel Lea Fox
So adorable...
- Georgia Diehl
oh that's much smarter. He's waaaaaaaaay cuter than I am :)
- metalerik
This cat is absolutely adorable!!!!!!
- The Catz Meow
Orion had a good vet visit. He gained 7oz which is great as he was so so skinny last week. He gets to be with us for one more week and then he will go up for adoption.
- Rachel Lea Fox
beautiful photos, what a handsome gentleman he is!
- Melissa Maskevich
If he keeps this up, I might have to stop calling him "Furbone."
- Cyrus Lendvay
I don't know Cy, I think you may need to stop now, there some definite meat on those furbones now!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
*chuckles* @ 2nd pic. tiny Orion, he'll be a BIG, tough cat someday ;D
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Franc ☺ he will be, but he already thinks he is big and tough. He has been jumping on Nym's head like he is the biggest thing in the world and nothing could stop him. It's super cute!
- Rachel Lea Fox
bumping this because I'm taking Orion back to the shelter in a couple hours.
- Rachel Lea Fox
give him a little scratch for me. Thanks for being so good them Rachel.
- metalerik
done metalerik. he is laying on my lap right now. We are enjoying our last bit of time together. *sighs*
- Rachel Lea Fox
Rachel: I hope they finds the best home for him. I try not to be sad everytime I hear one of your foster kittens is back to the shelter, you're so good to them :'(
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
A Class pic belongs on flickr
- Kevin J Hatton
Franc ☺, I try not to be sad too, but I cry every time. Kevin, they are all on Flickr, we use the Flickr API to host them on my blog. If you click on any one of those photos it will take you to the flickr page for that photo or you can visit my flickr foster kittens set here: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Rachel Lea Fox
Korean 'journalists' booted from Defcon - http://www.networkworld.com/news...
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"There's a certain body type you find with people who are in that type of work," he said. "Broad shoulders, narrow waist, not very tall. I'm looking at these guys, going, 'You're in far, far too good shape to be press.'"
- Gregor J. Rothfuss
Vitamin D deficiency common in U.S. children - CNN.com - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
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70% of them?! these children are not playing outside enough
- ௸ (k2g)
Sea lion showing off his good side
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Blue Food Dye Treats Spine Injury in Rats - http://www.wired.com/wiredsc...
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"The same blue food dye that gives your Gatorade its turquoise tint and turns your tongue a peculiar shade of purple might also protect your nerves in the case of spinal cord injury."
- Melody Lan
from Bookmarklet
That's a pretty cute picture of a rat (like it's hanging out, waiting for a back massage). Maybe it's the blue ears and paws: "By lucky accident, researchers discovered that the commonly used food additive FD&C blue dye No. 1 is remarkably similar to a lab compound that blocks a key step in nerve inflammation. When rats with spinal cord injury were given an infusion of blue dye, they...
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- Dan Hsiao
Wow, it's cute.
- Christopher Chung
why is turning blue considered an adverse effect? i think it's kinda cool. like kelsey grammar in x-men
- Felicia Yue
""The time window of 15 minutes post-injury is not clinically relevant," Fehlings wrote in an e-mail. Most patients don't make it to the emergency room within 15 minutes of getting hurt," - but maybe people in high-danger situations could have vests that automatically deliver the dye on injury. Or more prosaically, maybe it could be developed into something that could be administered on site by first aid trained people.
- Andrew C
"Unfortunately, because blue food dye is so cheap, they're not likely to find a drug company to sponsor the trials. "There's no commercial interest because you can buy it by the pound," Nedergaard said. "We're planning a clinical trial here in Rochester, but we'll have to wait for funding from the government."" Hmmmmmmmmm. =/
- Andrew C
I can see EMTs having a syringe of Blue #1 right next to their syringe of epinephrine.
- Daniel Dulitz
Aimee Mullins and her 12 pairs of legs - http://www.ted.com/talks...
"i went from being a disabled woman to being super-abled"
- Gregor J. Rothfuss
An Apology from Amazon (from Jeff Bezos about Kindle 1984 and Animal Farm incident) - http://www.amazon.com/tag...
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"This is an apology for the way we previously handled illegally sold copies of 1984 and other novels on Kindle. Our "solution" to the problem was stupid, thoughtless, and painfully out of line with our principles. It is wholly self-inflicted, and we deserve the criticism we've received. We will use the scar tissue from this painful mistake to help make better decisions going forward, ones that match our mission."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
I like how they used the word 'scar tissue from this painful mistake'. Man this guy must be good at putting sympathy into his posts.
- Matt Ruiz
I am weeping, whe-ee-eping...
- ianf ⌘
So does this mean I have control of my own data again, heh. Too freaky that we are no longer trusted with administrating our own hardware. Makes me leary of cloud solutions
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Mark, agreed, but was this the "cloud's," or Amazon's socially irresponsible behavior? It seems to me Amazon would be large and magnanimous enough to contest the "1984's" rights holder's takedown request by arguing in court (if it came to that), that, even if they made a mistake from the start by accepting upload of, and then selling books without checking copyrights properly, any...
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- ianf ⌘
I dunno, I have more sympathy for Amazon's situation than most, it seems. Their choices were to either comply with the take down request (which, admittedly, if the rights holder was the one that requested the remote deletion, would probably have been not so reasonable as far as take down requests go), or lawyer up and defend the copyright infringement suit, at which point, "They asked...
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- Brian Chang
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