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Robert Scoble

If you think FriendFeed's community is abusive remember that bloggers had Valleywag to worry about. EVERY online community is abusive. Do I need to remind you how many "I am unfollowing Scoble" Tweets I have seen? They ALL are abusive. And heck, back in college the Unix users made fun of me because I used a "toy computer." you know that as a Mac.

June 27 from iPhone - Comment - Like - Share

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I use one of those 'toy computers' and I wouldn't use anything else ;) - Stuart

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I have been on many online communities since I joined in 1984 and FriendFeed is the best. - Robert Scoble

any community has its abusive segments, FF included, it's the nature of human groups - Prolific Programmer from IM

Prolific: yup, it is part of hanging out with passionate people. - Robert Scoble

The detachment of the digital medium always seems to unleash the darker side of people who would otherwise be friendly. - Ade

It is always easier to blame others than to find blame in yourself, period. - Louis Gray

Stuart: they all use Macs now too. - Robert Scoble

all people, passionate or otherwise, @scobleizer - Prolific Programmer from IM

I think this is a poor use of the word "abusive". And Macs ARE Unix boxes now, so of course they do. - Neal Jansons

Ade: Iran proves that some people just aren't friendly online or off. - Robert Scoble

What Robert says is true enough. I sometimes wonder why people act like insults and arguments are new and shocking, and I conclude it's because they weren't watching during the UseNet days. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Neal: back then their ire was aimed at GUI's. They thought real computer users used command lines. - Robert Scoble

I've always been afraid of Internet communities until I discovered FriendFeed. - Mona Nomura

Oh, people crying wah nowadays should have seen the messageboards on my old hacker BBS when I was kid. - Neal Jansons from IM

strange how people say stuff online they would never say in person - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Peter: the more I get around the more I realize some WOULD say that to you in person. I will take ALL my online abuse vs. An Iranian clubbing. - Robert Scoble

Remember how Arrington was spit on? - Robert Scoble

Peter: Reminds me of http://www.urbandictionary.com/define... - Nicholas James

Robert: Re Arrington being spat on -- yeah, but you're a nice guy. :) No, spitting is not nice not matter who it is. - Diego Barros 

I was rather horrified when Mike got spit on...he/his family got threatened, too, if I remember right. People are not nearly as civilized as a lot of us would like to believe. - Neal Jansons from IM

Robert: I hear you. I guess mobs online or off are not cool. - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Nicholas: lol - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Peter: I will take an online mob over an offline one any day. Pixels might get me angry but they will never break my bones. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I know that. Only saying that IT somehow seems to embolden people to do mischief. - Ade

Lol - ♥ Medriss ♥

Raobert: that's why I am saying we shouldn't call the pixel version abusive...hearing/reading words you don't like or are insulting is not abuse. Kids getting beaten, prisoners being tortured, women being terrorized, etc...that's abuse. - Neal Jansons from IM

I think friend feed has a lot of smart people on it. What more can you ask from relative strangers than some degree of civility and intelligence. - James Watters

Robert: thats a quotable quote :-) - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Peter: Miriam here on FriendFeed is worrying whether she will see her friends again. She is in Iran. And we are worrying about whether Aaron will stay on Friendfeed or not. How lame we are. - Robert Scoble

You could have just said "that's quotable" you dumbass :) - James Watters

Our revolutionary war father's fought against an arrogant king in the dream that someday, we too could kill a Friday night with internet ruminations. - James Watters

Anna, thanks for following me. I can barely keep up with my blog and my day job --let alone FF. Jesse, thanks for the votes of confidence. - Jeremiah Owyang

Miriam's in Iran RIGHT NOW? - Prolific Programmer from IM

Robert: I think the greatest challenge we all face is to rise above our personal experience and drama and to see it in context or compare it to other far more serious issues being played out. Important to do but not easy - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Prolific: my Maryam is here. Miriam, though, is in Iran. - Robert Scoble

I'd say that ANYTHING social in nature, since it involves human beings, is bound to be abusive...it's just what people do. Unfortunately. - Carlton Hackett

Miriam in Iran is here: http://friendfeed.com/guineve... - Robert Scoble

I'm not concerned about whether or not Aaron stays or goes. What concerns me is that he thinks if someone's offended by an insult he hurls at a group of people, it's that person's "choice," but if he gets a little back, it's an attack. I will cease to be concerned about that soon enough, though :). - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Minimage: that is why I blocked him. I don't have enough time to put up with that. - Robert Scoble

"It is always easier to blame others than to find blame in yourself, period." - Louis Gray <----YES! And I shall pull a most appropriate quote from "Cyrano de Bergerac" (the original stage play) into the next comment... - Micah Wittman

"CYRANO: Why, I well believe He dares to mock my nose? Ho! insolent! (He raises his sword): What say you? It is useless? Ay, I know But who fights ever hoping for success? I fought for lost cause, and for fruitless quest! You there, who are you!--You are thousands! Ah! I know you now, old enemies of mine! Falsehood! (He strikes in air with his sword): Have at you! Ha! and Compromise!... more... - Micah Wittman

http://www.gutenberg.org/files.... - Micah Wittman

"I think friend feed has a lot of smart people on it" - James. This is so very true ;) - Diego Barros 

Neal: verbal abuse is still harmful, even while to a far lesser degree than physical - Mike Chelen

The "passionate people" thing is a bit of a cop out. It's perfectly possible to be passionate without being an ass about it. It just requires a little empathy or failing that manners. - Eoghann Irving

I don't think Valleywag ever took potshots at the common man-- or am I wrong? - Andy DeSoto

Andy: define "common." the common man isn't using a computer yet. - Robert Scoble

Eoghann: when someone is advocating for taking away my rights that calls for stronger tactics. The Iranian protesters aren't always nice. Sometimes people are wrong and need to be told that in no uncertain terms. - Robert Scoble

Scoble: someone may have a physical presence in the world with a name but are they really considered "alive" or "human" if they aren't on Facebook, Twitter and FF and have a computer (preferably a Mac) ;) - Mike Bracco

No good deed goes unpunished - Charlton Barreto

If "abusive" means that we use the traditional standards of libel, that should be just fine with everyone. This tendency towards standards that don't allow saying anything that could hurt anyone's feelings even if true for public conduct has some pretty bad authoritarian side effects. - Andy Carrel

We're doing pretty well on the "common man" thing, at least here in the United States. Neilsen Online's last U.S. estimate had 231 million American internet users, which works out to almost 3/4 of the total population. Impressive. - Chris Baskind

Chris: there are almost seven billion people on earth. Only one out of seven has a computer. - Robert Scoble

@scobleizer are you counting mobile phones as computers? - Prolific Programmer from IM

Yup: Just talking about the United States. It's coming along, though. There are about 1.5 billion people online. - Chris Baskind

like Tony Montana said "you need people like me". Powerful words, don't forget them. - iTbay

Prolific: most mobile phones are useless for the web. I don't count those. - Robert Scoble

In the '80s I used to joke, "How can you tell the difference between a Mac user and a PC user? The Mac users have girlfriends." (So did Amiga users but that's a different story... But then again, that could have been because of the Mac OS emulation. Hehe.) - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

Neal: Online psychological warfare was a pre-runner to multi-player online gaming. If not for my participation on early BBSs, I wouldn't have a practical understanding of logical arguments, cognitive linguistics, emotional triggers, or herd behavior. All of which turned out to be marketable skills. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

Haha, now that's a point, Mark. I like to think that users got some value out of our BBS (other than plans to build a Blue Box or the latest list of 950 cutout numbers...it was a hacker board, after all). - Neal Jansons

Heh, if people are arguing with you and abusing you, then you probably are doing something right! - Malcolm Bastien

Hey, I unfollowed you on twitter, but that's 'coz I already follow you on FF and pretty much 100% of your tweets are from FF. Why duplicate stuff? That ain't abusive! - Yuvi

Yuvi: unfollowing isn't abusive. Saying you are unfollowing is. - Robert Scoble

I do remember tweeting about unfollowing you, citing the fact that I get your content on FF anyway. But yeah, I do get your point. - Yuvi

Chennai, India. Named after my second favourite curry: Madras. - Mark

Robert: actually very thankful for messages explaining when and why people unfollow me, *if* they are friendly and constructive - Mike Chelen

Mark: now that macs are used by real computer people, some of them don't have girlfriends either :D - Mike Chelen

Robert: I think you're letting your pain blur your thinking... be strong, grasshopper! When you said "EVERY online community is abusive." you went a bit overboard... blub, blub, blub! Here's the thing about communities. They DO have characteristics as a group, and some are more friendly than others, as a group, but all groups are made out of very diverse individuals... because even in... more... - Fred Davis

Fred, every online community has a group identity that defines it as as a group of 'insiders' versus some 'outside' external to the group. That's what makes it a community. And that's often where the nastiness sets in - in struggles over group identity. I would say that's what makes all online groups 'abusive' in at least some respects. - Scot Mcphee

It was the same with IRC, same with Usenet and the same even with the BBS's - if you were an outsider, then some others may flame you or make your online life suck. Nothing new here... - dannystaple

Be nice if everyone came online to help each other out IMAGINE - John Sullivan

It is unfortunate that so many believe abuse - whether verbal, emotional or physical - is acceptable. The greatest issue of ours or any time is not the pursuit of money - it is the pursuit of power over others. - Internet Strategist

In the 1980's I started with a Mac 512K, a printer and two floppy drives, at $3,300.00 it seemed a bit pricey. But my engineer peers in Hollywood bought PC's, and it took them hours of configuring just to print! Smug me just printed my reports and went home! WYSIWYG was awesome... - Nicholas Chase

@Internet Strategist: Don't be so certain people are accepting abuse. What I'm dismissing is the notion that coming to FriendFeed opens one up to much more abuse than one could've ever encountered on the internet. I may not know much about social media, but I joined so many listservs in 1993 that I had to go through over 150 emails a day, & I saw nastiness then. From there, I moved to MUDding, IRC, & UseNet, & then the web came along. People sometimes got nasty everywhere. To think anything else is silly. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

But the Unix users were right :) - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

I am unfollowing Scoble because of this abusive comment. It has mortally offended me, and I am seeing my lawyer. And if you believe that, I have this bridge I can sell you... :) - Ian Betteridge

+1 on the Unix users were right. :] - Mark Woodson

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June 27 from Digg - Comment - Like - Share

"That car is AWESOME. Don't know about you guys, but I disassociate the crazy animals with the religious stickers. I honestly don't think the two are that correlated. (Either that or the driver thinks it's the Ark.)" - Andy DeSoto

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Re: How to get the Friendfeed hornets nest all riled up - http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/index...

June 27 from Disqus - Comment - Like - Share

"And the nice thing that I noticed when I used to write on tech was that if you write a well thought-out piece about Friendfeed, like this one is, whether critical or complimentary, you can always be assured that you'll get a lot of good conversation here on FF. It's a nice way to revitalize interest in your site and get people talking about you even more than they already are." - Andy DeSoto

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Re: How to get the Friendfeed hornets nest all riled up - http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/index...

June 27 from Disqus - Comment - Like - Share

"Love this post, Steven! You're absolutely right with that turnaround you point out at the end of this article. Pretty ridiculous." - Andy DeSoto

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