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Aaron the Librarian
Academic Librarians - Are you following YikYak?
? clearly not... - ellbeecee
what the heck is yikyak? - Sir Shuping is just sir
Who in the what now? - Catherine Pellegrino from iPod
I checked it out earlier this year and then uninstalled it after a few days. Creepy place full of douchey bros. Not a cool place. Lots of k-12 schools are banning it because of the heartache it can cause. For example: http://nymag.com/thecut... When I tried it in Manhattan, I found tons of awful posts from NYU and Columbia students. - Stephen Francoeur
good lord. based on that article, wouldn't touch it with the proverbial ten-foot pole. - RepoRat
oh crap...i did hear about yikyak and blocked it out of my mind because the early press on it was so poor, much of the same reasons for what occurred in the article stephen linked to - Sir Shuping is just sir
Yep. What I see when I'm at home (local high schools, other colleges) is different than what I see at work. It's interesting/useful to see what's going on when they're having real dialogue there, but the high school age stuff is abhorrent. - Julie Kane
Tl;dr me about this, please? - Marie
YikYak is an app that uses your device location to show you anonymous posts by people in your vicinity (not sure of the range, maybe a few miles or so). You can post your own anonymous comments. - Stephen Francoeur
Merci - Marie from iPhone
I am now. Second post is a vulgar joke that mentions the library. - Steele Lawman
I can't even handle monitoring mentions on Twitter, I'm pretty sure this will kill me. - Meg VMeg
I downloaded to check it out. It's somewhat amusing. - Andy
I just checked it out. Two posts I could intervene in, but a whole lot of tedium, annoyance, and way too much blowjob advice. Still trying to figure out if it's worth spending time there in the building.... I'm also wondering if my commenting (Hey, just sent a building monitor to shush that noise!) will be seen as helpful or creepy. Because being seen as the creepy one on YiKYak would be pretty awful? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
But you're being creepy anonymously, so nobody knows it's you specifically. ;) - kaijsa
If you want to know when people are having sex in the library, there's an app for that - Laura Norvig from iPhone
Took a look. Not going back. - John Jackson from iPhone
I look at it occasionally. I'd check it more if it had a search function so I could search for library mentions...unless it does, and I just don't realize it. - YvonneM
I am not an academic librarian, but I do read it here occasionally. Iowa kids are actually remarkably sweet probably 80% of the time. Once in awhile they're very funny. The rest of the time they are racist sexist assholes, but I was expecting that to be most of the posts, so I was pleasantly surprised. - laura x
Today they are tired, have advice about how you should make sure you have lots of time to sleep if you take Tylenol PM, lest you miss class and Michelle Obama, are unsure of how to tell people they like them, and have discovered, by means of pH strip, that a pumpkin spice latte is basic. Also one said "whoa, I should go to the library more often! I actually studied." - laura x
"Basic" is relatively recent slang for me. So I looked it up on Urban Dictionary (because I am old and librarian) and found that the definition there is 8 years old. I'm so basic. - Steele Lawman
Well, you know, I'm so basic I am down with any joke made at the expense of a pumpkin spice latte. - laura x
Tried it. Not big here. Picked up only stuff from international schools. - aaron from Flucso
maʀtha
I miss the old AL Direct format.
Me, too. They end up in my spam folder now because of the ads. Same with ACRL Update. - kaijsa
i actually get the new one consistently; the old one went to spam probably 80% of the time. - holly #ravingfangirl
I guess all of our email programs vex us in different ways. - kaijsa
RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Apparently, other academic disciplines have wikis listing job openings, who applies, who interviews, and word-on-the-street about the program. I am unaware of anything about that for acaLibraries, but suspect there probably is one. Do you all know of anything like this?
Not that I'm aware of, no... - Hedgehog
No clue. - kaijsa
In part, I was thinking there must be, because the pools for searches here are so weak, and there must be word-on-the-street about us (that I would like to see). - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
It's definitely challenging for us to recruit, especially compared to universities in more urban areas, but we get pretty good applicant pools (even though our pay is low) not totally limited to fresh grads (who are often great, just green). It surprises me that in this market you're not getting decent applicant pools. I've heard good things about UNR. - kaijsa
Yeah, me too. I don't think the City of Reno is enough of a turn-away for the low response rate and qualifications we tend to get. Reputation was my next guess (I don't have a third....) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Sounds a little too organized for librarians :P - Meg VMeg
kaijsa
Writing my sabbatical proposal is exhausting. I need a sabbatical just to be able to plan a good sabbatical.
Just remember that it's a subgenre of speculative fiction and try to enjoy it. - barbara fister
What's the old saying? It's easier to ask permission to do something on your sabbatical than it is to actually end up doing the thing you asked permission for. - John Dupuis
(He says, figuring he'll start on the stuff he's "supposed" to do after finishing up the presentation on the 28th...) - John Dupuis
The hardest part is coming up with a plan this far in advance, as my application is due this month for a sabbatical in 2016. But as people keep telling me, plans can change. My head thinks it looks like a good application, so I'm going to stop stressing. - kaijsa
Also, double lolz to barbara. Speculative fiction is pretty spot-on. - kaijsa
lris
Well! Turns out I'll be presenting a workshop at LOEX next spring. Wheee!
nice! - RepoRat
In Denver! Double-like! - Steele Lawman
Yay! - Joe
I would like to quadruple-like this, for reasons. - kaijsa
p.s. Iris didn't brag about this, but she's not just presenting a workshop. She's presenting THE INVITED pre-conference workshop. - kaijsa
Cool. - Joe
Woo hoo! - Galadriel C.
congrats! What are you presenting on? - YvonneM
Steele Lawman
Me in class today: "Remember that JSTOR only digitizes a limited number of journals in each discipline. For example, in the subject of history, there are only...over 5,000... Ok, that's actually a crapton, but..."
History is the bread and butter of JSTOR. :) - Holly's favorite Anna
For my journalism & PR students, i emphasize the STOR in JStor, telling them that it's not current - which is what they need. JStor has great name recognition, but it's the WRONG database for mai students, generally. *sigh* - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Coverage is great in lit, but our profs want lit students entering the *current* conversation in the crit, so they require sources to be <10 years old. I have to flat out tell them to keep their grubby mitts off JSTOR and go to to MLA first. - kaijsa
Joe
LSW: Joe
Thinking back to this exact date 6 years ago.... Thanks LSW Peeps Steve, LauraX, Josh, Kaijsa, and many others. http://librarycampwest.pbworks.com
Oh wow! I didn't realize we were at the anniversary. Thanks for the reminder, Joe. It wouldn't have happened without you. - Steele Lawman
Wow! I was just drinking from my LCOW mug this morning. - laura x from iPhone
Still waiting for promised LCOW mug from Steve :) - Kathryn is a free elf
That was my first unconf, and remains the best one I've attended. - kaijsa
I still have an extra one that hasn't cracked or gone kabloooey. Shipping to Australia can't be too expensive, right? Can you DM me your mailing address? - Joe
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Come work with me! (but not for me, or me for you) "Associate Director Library Research Services and Learning Spaces" http://www.uncw.edu/hr...
That is a very compelling ad. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
If anyone has any questions I'll do my best to answer them. I love working here (and being next to the beach) ! - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
The position sounds very interesting... - kaijsa
Lecturer, non-tenure track? Is this standard in the uncw libraries? - Aaron the Librarian from Android
I glossed over that, mostly with a hurrah for "administration, not requiring research". But, that's an excellent question. Also note the 11 month contract-- plus 22 vacation days! An actual required month off, plus other vacation time? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
my previous job had two months off in the summer but NO vacation. You had to borrow against the summer to take any days off - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Mr. The Jason Fleming
New report urges university libraries to reconsider their role in discovery @insidehighered - https://www.insidehighered.com/news...
New report urges university libraries to reconsider their role in discovery @insidehighered
"As faculty members and students find new ways to locate scholarly research, a new report encourages college and university libraries to re-evaluate whether their efforts to connect users with content are money well-spent." - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Bookmarklet
This article makes my head explode. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
seriously.. - Mr. The Jason Fleming
oh wow, that's great advice. why hadn't we thought about doing this before now? - Marie
Seems like there are a lot of red herrings in here. Ithaks's survey has statements like "It is strategically important that my library be seen by its users as the first place they go to discover scholarly content” and "My library is always the best place for researchers at my institution to start their search for scholarly information.” "First?" "Always?" What kind of control freaks do they think we are? - Steele Lawman
More important that they get there easily but know that we are the reason they were able to get there - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
Yet look at how many directors indicate strong agreement with those strongly worded statements... - Lisa Hinchliffe
I guess I think it's a Catch-22 of a statement, making directors think "am I admitting defeat if I don't agree?" - Steele Lawman
I think directors aren't the ones getting requests from patrons asking for help in connecting to resources. - kaijsa
well until the patron needing help is someone who knows someone in campus administration and then the problem goes straight to the director #butIdigress - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Utrecht is already trying it: http://libereurope.eu/news... - RepoRat
"Electronic articles can generally be found on the Internet. Google books and Worldcat provide a reasonable alternative to our own catalogue as far as printed books are concerned. " I guess I just live in a totally different universe than the author of that report does. - Steele Lawman
The problem I come across with users using Google Scholar is that they hit a paywall for articles we don't have access to instead of a link to a populated ILL form - Mr. The Jason Fleming
^yep, that^ - Aaron the Librarian
GS probably would run into friction from publishers supplying them with the content if they made it too easy to have an alternative to purchse. Then again, would be neat to know how many people searching GS actually purchase the articles they find there. (Not many, my guess.) - barbara fister
I actually kind of agree that we exaggerate the discovery function of libraries and overinvest in trying to be discovery engines. And that too many people in positions of power get upset at the idea that discovery isn't a library thing, that we're "falling behind." Libraries never were the primary place where discovery happened for scholars, though it has been and still is pretty good at "five scholarly articles, stat." - barbara fister
Let me change that "kind of agree" to "agree strongly." - barbara fister
This, by the way, is something that has interesting instruction implications. Is it all about discovery? Not if by "discovery" we mean "searching for a subject and finding some sources." - barbara fister
^^ heh - barbara fister
Stephen Francoeur
Can anyone tell me the general differences between the legal research options you have in Westlaw Campus Research vs. Westlaw Next?
When would you want to use one instead of the other (we have both, and also LexisNexis Academic). - Stephen Francoeur
We use LN for newspapers... and legal stuff as we do not not have WCL or WN - Aaron the Librarian
Idk but campus has a very restrictive license - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Law librarian here. WCR is very comparable to LNA for legal research - excellent coverage of primary legal materials, and access to law journals (one of the less helpful secondary sources, but they cost WL very little to offer). The biggest difference in legal materials is WLN has a wealth of the really good (and $$$) secondary / analytical materials - treatises, practice guides, current awareness, et al. - Elizabeth from BuddyFeed
I'm glad a law librarian chimed in. We have the Westlaws, but only at the law library or with login by law people. University libraries have LN only (well, and other nice things like Hein Online). - kaijsa
i buy Westlaw Next (Paralegal ed.) for mai grad students who study media law. It's got more stuff & is easier to search than LexisNexis academic. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
For those of you who have Westlaw Next, have you been able to configure off campus access via EZ proxy? I've tinkered with the settings in EZ proxy but can't ever get it to work from off campus. - Stephen Francoeur from Android
lris
Has anyone here gone to or heard about Emporia satellite Library Science program in Portland? A daughter of a friend is wondering about applying there.
Check the HollySue batsignal - she graduated from that program, I think. - WebGoddess
I did indeed. I liked it a lot - the local director is GREAT, and there has always been a good mix of professors and real live practitioners teaching the courses. I think the program is especially good for people already working in libraries, but I know people who weren't that still liked the program. - holly #ravingfangirl
Holly, would you mind if I gave your email address to my friend's daughter? - lris
A couple of my friends went there and liked it. It's been a while, though. - kaijsa
not at all! hollysue at the gmail place - holly #ravingfangirl
I know someone who was in the Denver satellite. Would you like his name? - Joe
Steele Lawman
So I re-installed YikYak just in time to see students claiming they had sex in the library last night.
yay. also I bet they were lying. - RepoRat
Young adults lying about sex in an anonymous online forum? Surely you jest! - Steele Lawman
Huh, mine aren't bad at all. Though one is complaining about the wifi at Stephen's work? - Meg VMeg
Our study rooms have clear glass walls for related reasons. - kaijsa
Same for us, but some students have figured out that the moveable white boards do a good job of covering up those windows. - Joe
Ours get the boot if they cover the windows! - kaijsa
I was inspired to peek at ours again and found that somebody is doing a Gossip Squirrel thing. "Spotted: Squirrelrina Van Der Woodsen eating an apple core on a trash can. I heard she was dating Nut Archibald but he is nowhere to be found. -XOXO Gossip Squirrel." I approve. - kaijsa
Oh, that's quite good. Our students have a thing for squirrels, too. It's sex, food/bathroom, drinking/drugs, slandering the college president, complaining about campus technology, and squirrels, roughly in that order. - Steele Lawman
I am on the verge of installing it here... - laura x from iPhone
I don't have a device that would support it, but even if I did, there is not enough money in the WORLD to get me to see what ND students are posting. No. Way. - Catherine Pellegrino
Someone is spamming ours with Bible quotes and it's pissing everyone off. - Meg VMeg
I deleted my app again because I don't need to see all the "I'm so drunk in class" posts (ugh), but was happy to see a bunch of our students who post fond things about some of our local eccentrics. They seem to enjoy seeing people let their freak flags fly, which is nice. - kaijsa
My latest favorite: "I apologize to my neighbors for the dying whale sounds. I'm trying to get out of bed." - Julie Kane
(Most of ours are about Netflix and mainlining Gilmore Girls episodes when not slamming the wifi). Also, everybody seems to want a Cuddle Buddy. - Julie Kane
Why do classes start so early on Friday, food in Burge, complaints about other people having sex, Adderall, pro/con Asian students, I wish I had a boyfriend. It's actually sort of sweet. - laura x
Oh, why did I download Yik Yak... - Rachel Walden
Rachel, I hear ya. More like Yik Yuck a lot of the time: racism, sexism, ...and more! - Stephen Francoeur
Catherine Pellegrino
Adobe Is All Up in Your Reading Business, And Other Links | Smart Bitches, Trashy Books - http://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/blog...
Pull quote: "That sound you hear right now is a million trillion librarians saying, I BEG YOUR PARDON?" [Also includes numerous awesome .gif and .jpg side-eyes, including "the Phylicia Rashad side eye, which, as you know, is the most powerful side eye in the known universe."] - Catherine Pellegrino from Bookmarklet
Also loved Andromeda Yelton on this: "This is about the fact that we do not have the technical skills to verify whether our products are in line with the values we espouse, the policies we hold, or even the contracts we sign, and we do not delegate this verification to others who do." http://andromedayelton.com/blog... - Regular Amanda
Andromeda has written the best explanation and call to action I've seen yet. I'm grateful and am sharing with my faculty. - kaijsa
Has this train not left the station, the toothpaste been squeezed from the tube? As a profession, we have decided that we want to cede control over these kinds of things to vendors. We can beg and plead and stamp our feet, and some brave souls might even cancel some subscriptions, but when it comes right down to it, we will cave and we will not be able to promise our patrons privacy. - Steele Lawman
"As a profession, we have decided that we want to cede control over these kinds of things to vendors." - if this is true, can't we change our mind back? shouldn't we at least think about changing it? Minds aren't toothpaste, and trains return to stations all the time... - Marianne
Sure, we should think about changing it. But I believe we never will. We have too much invested in the current system already, and privacy is just kind of a little detail that is easy to let slide. - Steele Lawman
I'm happy to continue the privacy fight... but really, the only problem here is that the data was sent in clear text. Or is the ability to sync your reading across devices not desirable enough and we should do away with the tool that enables this functionality? Kindle does the same thing - only with your kindle login (and probably not in clear text). - Aaron the Librarian
Will this still be a problem once Adobe figures out how to hash the JSON object used to transfer teh data? - Aaron the Librarian
I think it will... but I've always been way over on the skinny end of the bell curve when it comes to privacy. - RepoRat
HTTP://kindle.amazon.com/most_popular - DJF from Android
I'm sort of amazed that 4chan hasn't placed some perfectly obnoxious line from the Marquis de Sade or Adolf Hitler or someone as the most highlighted passage on Kindles. Maybe they did and Amazon nixed it. - Steele Lawman
Aaron, from what i can tell the three big things are "clear text? wtf?" plus "they're roaming my devices to gather info from ALL of my epubls which I never agreed to and it's creepy" plus "WHAT IS THIS AWFUL THING NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT DRM OH NO NO NO" which, well, that last one is kind of like those scientists being all "I GOT A TAKEDOWN FROM ELSEVIER FOR MY ARTICLE CAN THEY DO THAT?"... more... - barbara fister
The developers of the Bluefire reader comment: http://www.bluefirereader.com/blog.... Interestingly, they support syncing your reading location between devices, but their servers only synchronize a secure token that they can't read. Much like the way that Firefox sync works. - DJF
yeah, Griffey suggested hashing userid + bookid, and I don't see why that wouldn't work: http://jasongriffey.net/wp... - RepoRat
Aaron: I'd disagree that clear text is the only problem. If the patron's identity is attached to the reading records and those records are non-transitory and subject to subpoena or fishing expeditions, then *poof* reader privacy, a bedrock value for *public* libraries at least, goes out the window. And I'd guess all three "ifs" are true. - Walt Crawford
kaijsa
Literature/book history types: does anybody know of a digital archive that includes examples of 19th century gift books? Either free or subscription okay, as I'm just trying to identify resources. We have tons of primary collections, so many that I haven't figured them all out. Mo (collections) money, mo (librarian) problems.
I wasn't having much luck searching by that subject, so I hit Wikipedia to get a few example titles. ProQuest's "American Periodicals" has "The Atlantic Souvenir" and "The Liberty Bell" at the very least. - Steele Lawman
I was just coming back to say I know about NCCO. Thanks for the PQ tip--we have all their stuff! I though you might have some insight. - kaijsa
There are few in the IA: https://archive.org/search... - Heather
And a whack more in HaithiTrust: http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Search... - Heather
You all are great! Thank you! I found a few in our print collection, and between those, NCCO, and the links you've provided, I think we have some good examples for the class. The prof I'm working with is so impressed with librarian hive mind. - kaijsa
p.s. Another reason LSW rules and email lists drool: I sent this query to the ACRL-LES list at the same time I posted here, and my message hasn't made it through to the eyes of helpful literature librarians. - kaijsa
p.p.s. To be clear, the lit librarians also rule. They were very helpful. It's the list mechanism that drools. - kaijsa
Steele Lawman
"An abusive relationship is a closed loop. So is a professional network. So is the patriarchy." http://thehairpin.com/2014...
A story about sexism, abuse, harassment in another professional/academic context (creative writing). - Steele Lawman
One of our MFA faculty and I were comparing notes about our professions the other night. This stuff came up. Yuck. - kaijsa
RepoRat
So, yeah, if anybody was under the misapprehension that Adobe is anything but a massive tool... http://the-digital-reader.com/2014...
Yikes. I hope this story gets wide play in library land. Ebrary requires an Adobe Digital Editions account. Can't remember if the software is still required, though, as I know something changed recently with Ebrary (or was it Overdrive) and apps/interfaces. - Stephen Francoeur
Overdrive does, too. - laura x
New Overdrive doesn't need you to HAVE and Adobe Account anymore. You register with Overdrive to manage your DRM. Which is probably powered by Adobe but.... - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫
It's already making teh Splash on ALA Council list, LITA Board list, and ALAWO/OITP. Also, I'm digging to find out who recieved the question from ArsTechnica and what the response [was / will be]. more as I learn more - Aaron the Librarian
This is making me grumpy. We're so all in for ebooks and it's a headache just from the 18-steps-to-download perspective. Thanks, I'm bringing this up at our faculty meeting. - kaijsa
RE: ALA activity: ALA WO was contacted, I hear it was likely Jazzy Wright (WO press officer) who spoke with Ars. Here's a link to two ALA Council posts with activity updates: Office for Intellectual Freedom email: http://lists.ala.org/wws... & LITA Board email: http://lists.ala.org/wws... (or October to date: http://lists.ala.org/wws... ) - Aaron the Librarian
Long story short, the behemoth has been poked and is now aware. More as I hear it. - Aaron the Librarian
YOU GO ALA. - RepoRat
laura x
Whoever took the link to the library off the front page of uiowa.edu is dead to me. (Because it's so hard for me to type in lib.uiowa.edu. But seriously. It stymies me every time.)
I wish we'd collectively decide whether the library subdomain is library. or libraries. or lib. or libs. or heydoyourresearchhere. or whatever. - RepoRat
Or we could be like most successful commercial sites and have all the lib/library/libraries/etc. URLs redirect to the correct one. - Steele Lawman
BUT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE can't have that. - RepoRat
At least you're not us. We have a www-lib address. Yes, it's weird. - kaijsa
we are .edu/library but at least that's better than .edu/~library, which is what we used to be. - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, yes. UWYO wins for sheer weirdness. - laura x
Actually, wait. I think .edu/~library was an alias or something that redirected to .edu/TeachingResearch/library. - Catherine Pellegrino
Laura, we win for weirdness in so many ways. - kaijsa
I type "l" and hit enter. Which isn't the point really but auto-complete ftw. - Deborah Fitchett
lris
Started class with "here is where you can get help -- this is where the ref desk is, this is where my schedule is, etc." Some students put on their library session faces. Those students later asked questions that made it clear they hadn't listened at all. First up: "Where can I get help in the library? How do I schedule an appointment with you?"
*headdesk* - Catherine Pellegrino
"Wait, what's a call number?" NOTICE THE BOARD WHERE I WROTE ONE OUT AND EXPLAINED IT??? - lris
Oh, I hope you smacked them down but good. (I know you wouldn't, but still.) - Catherine Pellegrino
I didn't. I should have given at least a withering look, but I was in helpful mode. - lris
My boss calls library session faces "yard art." - YvonneM
Test other students' recall by getting them to answer? Trying and failing to think of a non-snarky way to do this though. Maybe it's all in the delivery. - Deborah Fitchett
^^^Yeah, this can work well. Sometimes snarky is called for. (I wish I could say I'm always as nice as Iris, but I am not.) - kaijsa
I just flounce out at that point. "Looks like our time is up!" - Steele Lawman
answer with "the library elves can help answer all of your questions. you know where to find them. bye!" - Sir Shuping is just sir
+1 Steve. - kaijsa
RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Smart peoples: Have any of you tried to get LibCal/room booking to work with active directory authentication? If no, how do you restrict your room booking to enrolled students?
We (by which I mean someone who worked here before me, because I wouldn't have a clue) have MRBS set up with LDAP authentication. - Deborah Fitchett
I will pass along that string of terms to my IT guy and see if it is workable with our tools. He did tell me to expect LDAP in the answer.... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
:-) Sorry, MRBS is our room booking system - open source software, php/sql-based: http://sourceforge.net/project... I don't actually get the relationship between LDAP/Active Directory myself, I think it's a subset or offshoot or something something? I just know that wherever our/vendors' documentation for anything talks about LDAP, I need to talk to our campus IT folk about Active Directory. - Deborah Fitchett
We use MRBS with LDAP, too. But we don't use any authentication with LibCal. I should say that I'm the only one using LibCal currently, but we're considering subscribing (we only have the 3 free accounts that come with other subs) and I hadn't thought about making people authenticate to make an appointment. Do you get a bunch of public patrons trying to book? We haven't seen that with our other booking service, but that could be a function of our location. - kaijsa
Our current room booking tool requires authentication, so it hasn't been a problem. But we are concerned about going to LibCal for room booking without it (we are rather more welcoming to the public here than other university library I've ever worked at). End goal is to just have one calendar tool, so the authentication will also come up for workshop and event registration (currently handled through a third tool -- ugh!) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
That makes total sense. I was just being nosy, not questioning your motives, btw. We're pretty wedded to MRBS for space, but LibCal has potential for librarian time. Workshop registration would be excellent, as we use Google forms (blech) for that. I may check in with you to see how that works out later. - kaijsa
nosy is totally fine with me! Librarian booking is an additional tool in LibCal, or at least is an add-on (I think our basic LibCal plan came with 5 instances for librarian booking). We haven't used any of it yet though -- stupid Outlook doesn't play well with *anything*. I used LibCal for our week of 30 workshops, without authentication, and I mostly liked it-- but one part of the... more... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We use LibCal and the appt alert messages have ics files included... open the ics file in in the email in Outlook & save it (defaults right into Outlook Calendar). [Redacted incorrect comment, see Laura' s comment below - Aaron the Librarian
Hey, sorry I didn't see this earlier. LibCal 2 has LDAP authentication and you can sign up for a beta right now. I realize that this may not be the best time (still early in the semester!) but it's a free upgrade. Blog entry with deets here: http://blog.springshare.com/2014... - Laura
Thanks Laura! That's great news -- and we should be getting our beta site any day now! Seriously, this could let us retire EMS! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
YvonneM
What's a tactful way to email a prof & request that our next instruction session take place after students have selected topics so that they are not overloaded with info?
we usually say something like "we've found that the session is more effective if students have already chosen their topics and can use those for our in-class activity" - ~Courtney F
and sometimes I use highfalutin' words like "it's pedagogically sound" or "my research indicates …" (where my = the expertise of my people) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I do what Courtney does. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Me, too. - kaijsa
Yeah, I think it can be tricky to suggest that the way they have chosen to do it isn't the best way. Another possibility is to frame it in terms or your assessment of student learning from previous sessions or that you "want to try something new". You might also set up a face-to-face meeting with them, if you're concerned about conveying the right tone in an email (or that they won't read/respond to an email). - Freeda B.
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback. - YvonneM
Aaron the Librarian
Do I live in a knowledge bubble? It was news to my students that you can chase an article forward via "Cited by" in Google Scholar
Everyone is new at this their first time (these were grad students) - Aaron the Librarian
Yup,, that is how I found when our chapter was cited, but I run across it often with grad students. I don't think they always think about going forward. - Hedgehog from Android
This is news to many of the faculty I work with. - Catherine Pellegrino
I blame you LSW-types for my knowing this trick... it's not what you know, it's who you hang with - Aaron the Librarian
no, my MA students rarely know about it, and only about half the new PhD students do. But they soon learn! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
No, I just showed this to MA students and they were floored. The prof teaching their thesis research class hadn't seen it, either. Going forward is often much more useful than backward citation chasing. And it works for books, which is huge in the humanities. - kaijsa
I don;t think I've ever had anyone in a room already aware of it when I've brought it up. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Andy
I swear to the old gods and the new that i read a post by the anonymous lj blogger that called out Murphy by name and now I can't find it. Anyone else remember that? Or am I just misremembering?
It's not recent either. Maybe the last couple of years. - Andy from Android
Called him out as a fraud of a "thought leader" or what? - Steele Lawman
Something like that. I remember it being vicious. - Andy from Android
LJ did a massive CMS migration, and I think not all their archives are back yet. - RepoRat
Hmm. This is driving me nuts. - Andy
This one isn't by anonymous, but it's definitely anti JM: https://brucekrajewski.wordpress.com/2011... - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I remember that one. I've been combing through the Internet Wayback machine, trying to figure out if I can pick it out by name. - Andy
Did you try looking by the key word "digits" - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
That Krajewski post (which I'd never seen) is something. As are the comments, two in particular. Thanks for pointing it out, Jaclyn. - Walt Crawford
do you remember the focus of the post? - maʀtha
I think it was his lack of substance. - Andy from Android
Here's this about keynotes at the Handheld Librarian (snerk) of which, JM is one : http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs... - copystar
That Handheld post is interesting. The final quoted passage sounds awfully like a certain three-initialed public librarian, a monarch of sorts, although I could be wrong. - Walt Crawford
I usually pay AL no attention, but "sub-normal masturbatory low-jinks" is a term I might have to adopt as my own. - kaijsa
laura x
Fwd: Here is where you recommend books for the mystery book discussion group I run at the library. Go!
Best mystery books by little known authors? https://www.goodreads.com/list... [eta: or the superset of mysteries: https://www.goodreads.com/list... ] - Aaron the Librarian
One offs or series? I mostly ready cozy mysteries--by the pile if I can find an author I like. - Hedgehog
Either is fine. It's a group that's been running for 20 years. I inherited it 4 years ago, and I don't generally read mysteries, so it's been interesting. - laura x
Is there a particular subgenre of mystery your group likes? I find Tana French's books (more crime fiction than mystery, but definitely mystery) are good for conversation. Also Night Film. - kaijsa
Also I'm reading G.M. Ford's Leo Waterman series, which I admit to enjoying partly because it's set in Seattle. Pretty gritty, but funny in spots. - kaijsa
They're all over the map. We read Night Film this year and had a great discussion--I think about a quarter of them loved it and the rest hated it, which is always fun. - laura x
That is fun! My book group was divided on Night Film, but everybody was engaged in talking about it. - kaijsa
I'll second the Tana French books. I don't read many mysteries but I really liked those and there would definitely be things to discuss. - kristin buxton
Ooh, I loved the Last Policeman series. They're mysteries, but also about "being" a detective, what that means. The book starts with this plot point: an asteroid is racing towards Earth and going to end the entire human race. So the books are very existential, why even try to solve murders? etc. [edited to give goodreads link instead of Amazon] http://www.goodreads.com/book... - Regular Amanda
(For a moment I thought Last Policeman was a book version of the Peter Davison TV series, but that was called The Last Detective. It's a good show, btw.) - bentley
Lindsay Faye's series set in 19th century New York are terrific. And I usually don't read historical mysteries. - barbara fister
It seems like you would've already checked these out, laura, but barbara's *own* mystery novels are pretty splendid - I've read and deeply enjoyed both in the Anni Koskinen series, and they have (unsurprisingly considering the author) an awareness of social justice that seems like it might appeal to you as well as your group. (the first of those is called In the Wind.) - Marianne
"Fallen Into the Pit" by Ellis Peters, the first in the Inspector George Felse series https://www.goodreads.com/book... - Holly's favorite Anna
for something a little silly and appealing to your sci-fi nerds, "Bimbos of the Death Sun" by Sharyn McCrumb https://www.goodreads.com/book... - Holly's favorite Anna
Two science fiction/fantasy mysteries I've read this year that I really enjoyed were Scalzi's Lock In and The Rook by Daniel O'Malley. - Katie
Yes on Tana French as well. - YvonneM
{{ marianne }} aw, thanks. Actually, I think Laura already did that and gave interestng feedback. - barbara fister
kendrak
I have been asked to write my first letter of support for somebody up for an award. Any advice on how to make sure I give them the best shot? I've never done this before.
Don't be shy with the superlatives! These letters are not a place for restraint. Don't go so far you sound fake, but don't be afraid to talk the person up, either. - RepoRat
Use the announcement (much like you'd use a the job announcement for an employment reference to write one of those) to see what you really need to emphasize. I have one I wrote for someone a few years ago (who ended up getting the award) - I can strip out identifying info and share if you think it'd be helpful. - ellbeecee
ellbee, that would be mucho helpful! - kendrak
See if via the award website you can find a list of past awardees and their work for ideas. - Galadriel C. from Android
Speaking from a wee bit of experience on an award committee, it's essential to provide enough info about the person. We reviewed some candidates whose nominators didn't provide a full picture of their career/contributions, so we just didn't feel that we could select them. (Though I guess the amount of detail needed depends on the type of award.) - Megan loves summer
If RR will let me, I will send you the M&S nomination I wrote for her. - laura x
Sure, go ahead. - RepoRat
:D I am still very proud of that nomination. - laura x
it worked! - RepoRat
I'm that late, annoying person who reiterates what's already been said. People I've written letters for have won things. Last year, for an innovation award, I focused on the impact the project will have on the profession and that it fills an unmet need. For a different kind of award, I would have written it very differently. - kaijsa
Meg VMeg
Kinda stressful/awkward doing a one-shot for grad-level instructional design class. I kept wanting to say, "Sure, I could get away with incorporating more active learning into this session if you were really my students, but I promise that it would only lead to resentment and boredom in this situation. Personal evidence-based, yo."
"Instead of class tonight, we're going to watch this filmstrip. Who wants to volunteer to advance the film?" - Stephen Francoeur
Ha! In my experiences with grad one-offs, as soon as the words, "smalllll grouuuuupssss," leave my mouth in slow motion, the disdain is as palpable as though I've just informed them, "hey guys, we are going to play a fun get-to-know-one-another game!!" I can't take it. - Meg VMeg
This is fascinating to me. Do they really prefer just straight lecture? Or is it that they're instructional design students? Or is it both? - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, this is my first/last instructional design class (subbing for their usual librarian), which is why it was stressful. I don't know what the grad students want. It feels like, when I ask them to *do* something, they think I'm wasting their time? It's not enough information for them? They think it's a ploy? My MLS students are more willing to humor me (BECAUSE I CAN DESTROY THEM???? or because they trust I'm not making them do it for my own self-satisfaction? dunno) - Meg VMeg
Again: fascinating! I guess I would anticipate that grad students in general would have less patience with small-groups-active-learning stuff and be all, "we're in this for real, we can take the straight lecture, don't waste our time with this namby-pamby feelgood bullshit," except for the part where these are instructional design grad students, who presumably would KNOW BETTER. Or maybe they feel like, BECAUSE they know better, they can skip all that? I dunno. But I'm still fascinated. - Catherine Pellegrino
that was gonna be my guess too. even in MLS teaching I get some people who get downright offended if I use any teaching technique that doesn't come across as 100% Srs Bzns. - RepoRat
In my experience, if there's not something immediately useful in it for them, the adult/grad students tune out. I get more meaningful teaching moments in the post-talk walk-around. - GretelSK
If it's something I think they've heard before, I tell them to think of it as something they can turn around & teach their students. to them: don't pay attention for yourself, pay attention for your future students. I dunno if it helps, but it makes me feel better. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I'm just gonna say that teacher-types are some of the worst students to deal with. They all want to be the ones teaching and struggle with being in the learner seat. They're also some of the most fun people, but the pain is real, yo. - kaijsa
^^ Yes! As you say, generally really interesting people, but also used to being professionals in a professional setting, and (I'll horribly generalize here) want me to answer their individual off-topic question RIGHT NOW instead of going with the flow of the class and letting me lead everyone there together. And these are usually busy folks, so I can respect that, but the class isn't me... more... - Regular Amanda
That is really interesting. My MSW students used to glaze over and look resentful at my lecture style research seminar. The vast majority of them are much happier with the "pair up and do stuff" version I have now. Maybe I just suck that bad at lecturing... - LibrarianOnTheLoose
kaijsa
Did we talk about ello and I'm missing it? In any case, I'm trying it and you can find me as @kaijsa. I will send invites if you want them--not sure how many I get.
Would like invite, if you have an extra - warmaiden at the gmails - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
username there is same as my username here - lris
Invite sent to warmaiden! Can't find Iris. - kaijsa
I found Iris (her first i is the letter el), but can't find you kajisa. I'm rudibrarian - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Just finding out about ello, may want to check it out. - MariWeaver
Happy to throw you an invite, MariWeaver; DM me an email address. - RepoRat
I just found Iris. The L threw me off. Just added rudibrarian. - kaijsa
I now think her name is Elris. - Joe
Stephen Francoeur
Anyone have access to RUSQ? Looking for this article on the current issue. Send me a DM if you've got it.
I'm on it. - Steele Lawman
Steele Lawman is the Awesome. - Stephen Francoeur
<obligatory rant>RUSQ used to be open access...</obligatory rant> - Catherine Pellegrino
<obligatory fistbump>You got that right.</obligatory fistbump> - Stephen Francoeur
Why isn't it? RUSA needs to get it together! - kaijsa
<comment>RUSA busily running in the opposite direction from LAMA, LITA, PLA...</comment> - Walt Crawford
Kaijsa: oh, mercy. it's complicated: http://www.spurioustuples.net/... - Catherine Pellegrino
Meg VMeg
How is your "new school year insanity" going? I think this might be my last really hectic week (I will certainly have other hectic weeks, but not so many in a row, usually).
I'm happy for you, genuinely. The entirety of fall semester is bonkers for me. This year I have suffered from bonkers inflation. At least three days a week I am here 8am to at least 8pm and I am basically existing on whatever food the library coffee shop has to offer. We cannot hire our two vacant faculty and one staff position fast enough for me. - kaijsa
soooooooooo tired. (nothing but training students almost all day every day, fielding calls on weekends from new student supervisors, helping people move and suchlike on the weekends). good things but I am ready for the pace to slacken. - Marianne
it's... really, really bad. New course plus keynote plus accreditation site visit next week plus TA weirdness and other low-level hassles, and I am getting close to the red overload line. - RepoRat
Yeah, we are super low on staff, and there's only so much one human can do, so... everyone is crazy. - Regular Amanda
With migrating to Alma, it's been feeling like new-school-year-insanity around here since May. I'm exhausted. - Kirsten
I've felt like I haven't stopped since mid-August and I don't see it stopping soon. - ellbeecee
I've got two major commitments this year that are outside the library (coordinating the first-year seminar program, which launched this fall, and chairing a high-level college-wide committee) and there are days when it feels like I'm not librarianing at all. - Catherine Pellegrino
Y'all are making me feel guilty. I'm on sabbatical and lazy as hell. - barbara fister
Like Kirsten, migrating to Alma on top of normal heavy workload is exhausting. Although my heart goes out to Kaijsa, as at least I can work from home at night. - Jen
Liked for Secret Agent Fister's comment - Aaron the Librarian
I have opted for sanity... I leave and don't look back between 8 or 9 hours after I arrive. I accomplish less. I own that. But if more is expected, we need to hire someone else. I have (at strictly informal count [eta: I have a spreadsheet of daily documentation]) 3.5 years (yes, years -- where 2000 hours = year) of comp time on my ledger. That's roughly 8 years of 60-80 hour weeks. If... more... - Aaron the Librarian
I worked more than I was paid for during our Alma implementation but now I'm trying really hard to get back to my proper 8 hours a day *with statutory breaks*. If for no other reason than to set a good example for my staff. :-) But over-working is a hard habit to break.... - Deborah Fitchett
My September wants to kill me, so I'm really looking forward to Oct 3. Theoretically. I haven't had time or will to look and see what October is bringing..... Hope everyone gets some space for rejuvenation soon!! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan from YouFeed
I'm trying not to cry? I was out sick for 8 out of 10 working days in early September, and we're down 20% on staff, and 25% on budget, and, um, yeah? - Jenica
Still hectic here! Frantic, even. And committee work is just kicking in. - maʀtha
Sounds like we're all struggling here, and I sympathize and empathize. Work-life balance is nonexistant at the moment and I'm also letting balls drop on some of my committees, which sucks for the other members. I guess we can all be here for each other, though. - kaijsa
yup, we can, and thank goodness for it. - Marianne
i'm hoping that this is my last truly insane week, as all of my non-work commitments have required something of me this week in addition to start of school madness. - ~Courtney F
here's a hug for {{{ Jenica }}} Too much bad at once time. - barbara fister
And you all, if we drop enough balls maybe we can have fun playing with them! signed, mistress of all lazy. - barbara fister
I thought my new school year insanity was dying down, then I cleaned up the accumulated pile on my desk. I've got at least another week of tight deadlines. - Elizabeth Brown
Joe
Shocking news. "One of the key findings was that students struggle with being able to successfully navigate their college and university library websites." http://discovery.ebsco.com/pulse...
I did not like that "Who better to..." line one bit. (Probably not Spool's fault.) We HAVE UI/UX experts in libraries, yo... and a lot of the problems live with our gotdamn vendors anyway. - RepoRat
Word, RR. - kaijsa
Oh look, EBSCO is expending resources doing things I don't need EBSCO to do. - JffKrlsn from Android
Laura Krier
I'll be teaching my first info lit session to senior engineering students embarking on a capstone project. I don't really know yet how engineering research works. Any suggestions from you brilliant lot?
They need to know the key databases in their field. Citation chasing and endnote/other tool are also useful. If this is a design class like our capstones, I'd show them Knovel if you have it, since it has amazingly useful handbooks. It's also useful just for general reference stuff. - kaijsa
Thanks! I'm totally new to engineering, so I don't have a really good idea of what kinds of things they'll generally be researching. - Laura Krier
I'm sure actual engineering librarians will have more specific ideas, but I've had engineering as a subject in the past and covered it as interim recently. My biggest piece of advice is to pin down the prof on the assignment description. If you know what the students are being asked to do, it will make your life so much easier. - kaijsa
What kind of engineering? I've got bunches of slides from chemical engineering, some from civil and fire engineering. Never did anything with electrical or mechanical but still remember some resources. (And how senior is senior? *Assuming* fourth year university?) - Deborah Fitchett
Our department focuses on electrical engineering with a specialization in electronics and communications. The students are fourth (and fifth and sixth) year university students. - Laura Krier
Also, there isn't really a specific assignment. This semester students are learning about the design process, about presentation skills, technical writing, and how to write a project proposal. What I want to focus on is how information gathering happens in the design process. What kinds of information they'll need and how to find it, etc. But...I don't really know what kinds of information they'll need. Eeep! - Laura Krier
I'd expect then that the main databases for standard literature would be IEEE Xplore and Compendex, as well as Web of Science/Scopus when the subject's a little more interdisciplinary. Patents and standards will also be important (IEEE Xplore has IEEE standards). - Deborah Fitchett
Technical writing etc - one standard textbook we had was "Writing for science : a practical handbook for science, engineering and technology students" by Heather Silyn-Roberts. Latest edition I know of is 3rd 2012. --On design process, might be worth seeing if there's any info on https://www.asme.org/events... or ... I feel there was an international competition for students related to Engineers Without Borders or some similar organisation. - Deborah Fitchett
Thanks! - Laura Krier
Look also for systems engineering and requirements gathering or analysis. Incose is a society for that. IEEE and IET have great resources. Don't forget inspec if you have it. I work with lots of ee doing communications and radars and stuff. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
As an aside, show them how to "stalk" people (set up search alerts by author or citation) and how to see which institutions are doing the kind of research they're interested in and what grants they used to pay for it (limit to instititution/funding agency). I know it's not strictly related to the capstone, but these always seem to capture their attention. - Meg VMeg
Engineering students also seem to really love a nice focused hands-on workshop on [your citation manager of choice]. Citation searching can be well-received and I had one group who got super excited by Boolean operators but that's the kind of thing you have to more play by ear. - Deborah Fitchett
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