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lris
That thing where you've really really wanted a digitized collection, and then find out that you've had it for the last 6 months already...
Been there. I'm still trying to figure out what all we have (too much). - kaijsa
lris
I find myself in the new position of telling a faculty member what friends have often told me about library sessions I'm not very confident about: Don't worry, so what if we aren't as prepared as we wanted to be for this, the students will get something out of it and there's no need to over-complicate our lives or start a round of sel-flagellation.
I have had lots of really well-prepared lib sessions go south. Many unexpected imrpov successes. This is what is known as teaching. Lots of independent variables over which we have little control. - barbara fister
ellbeecee
Dear (Contact First Name).... (from a vendor, in my email this morning). Clearly I'm not an actual contact for them.
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laura x
Okay, folks. It exists. Please populate. Damn You Auto Suggest - http://damnyouautosuggest.tumblr.com/
Okay, folks. It exists. Please populate. Damn You Auto Suggest
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"or Primo Knows Best. Auto-suggest failures from library catalogs and databases." - laura x from Bookmarklet
Happy to contribute! - Zamms
Laura, you are a treasure. - kaijsa
Hey Laura, can I send you a revised Berlin All graphic? Just noticed my kid's name mentioned it so I want to crop it a little. - Zamms
And now it is also automatically fed into the LSW room. Heeeeeeeeeeee - lris
Well played! - Zamms
Zamms, yes, please do--or just go ahead and submit it and I'll delete the other one. - laura x
I found the avatar by searching for search fail, licensed for reuse with modification on Google images: http://bestandworstever.blogspot.com/2013... - laura x
"yoga poses" and "otitis externa" just made me guffaw at the reference desk. Damn you, Auto-Suggest! - Catherine Pellegrino
This is just so awesome. - Galadriel C.
Oh darn. Can't recreate my favorite. They turned of suggest globally in our ebscohost. Oh wait - publib! - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Delightful. - Marie
I am sending this link to MPOW's cataloger. *evil chuckle* - Catherine Pellegrino
I love this so much. - Meg VMeg
This definitely goes in my best thing ever file. - Megan loves summer
related, in a weird way: http://blogs.wsj.com/persona... - RepoRat
I don't know if I did it right but I tried submitting. PQ took this exact title New Research Center Aims to Develop Second Generation of Surgical Robots and wanted to change aims to maims :) - Christina Pikas
Oh phooey. I need to get it to email me when people submit so I remember to post them. :) - laura x from iPhone
Turns out, we might be getting Primo. Soon I'll be a contributor. - lris from Android
Gave this to my coworker who is doing a little comparative research on discovery systems . she was much amused - Hedgehog
laura x
My book is in 100 libraries.
That is a great accomplishment! - Steve C Team Marina
I do find the wording of this URL interesting... http://www.amazon.com/Night-S... - Joe
this book contains 'unexpected Laura Crossett' ;-) - Marina's Godmother :-)
Checked out 7 times here! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
No one expects Laura Crossett, surprise is her greatest weapon. - Blake
I know at least one library that has it that is not in worldcat. - Katy S from iPhone
*wonders who will play him in movie version* what? it could happen ... FF could be a kind of pseudo Greek Chorus - MoTO: Team Marina
Katy, yup, my library has it and isn't in Worldcat. I assume there are others. - laura x from iPhone
So I think you could safely say "my book is in 100 PLUS libraries." - Regular Amanda
...and no MINUS libraries! - Aaron the Librarian
And it's on my kindle. I checked Wyldcat to verify that only 4 WY libraries have it, and it's true. BAD FORM, Wyoming librarians. - kaijsa
Steele Lawman
Reading about copyright law always makes me feel like a cranky toddler because I want things to be EASY and FUN and centered around MY DESIRES! But instead they are DUMB and COMPLICATED!
I just want to use what I want when I want it. JEEZ. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
^^ THIS - Steele Lawman
Copyright is like wedding cake. Yeah sure it could be simple but wouldn't it awesome to be put some flowers, ribbons, little figures, a couple of extra layers, some extra tiers, maybe a fruity filling oooo let's get some columns on there wedding guests love columns. - Andy
And let's make it six times as big as anyone will actually eat! - RepoRat
Eat cake. EAT CAKE!! - Steele Lawman
I find it perversely fascinating. A nifty and fairly simple 18th century idea that went Hollywood. Millions of dollars on spectacle, special effects, and vapidity. - barbara fister
Oh, and lobbyists and graft. Lobbyists v. Hobbyists: Return of the Wedding Cake from Hell. - barbara fister
I'm with Steve. - laura x
Marie
Do any LSWers have an ER&L proposal they would like to suggest we consider supporting? http://electroniclibrarian.org/confere...
Ours isn't showing up! - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Introduction to Usus (me and some other folks from the Supervisory Board) - Holly's favorite Anna
After some quick work by Sandy, we're on: Libraries and Family: Is the Academic Library Community Supporting You? (I know, it's not a usual ER&L topic, which is sort of why we did it). - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Migrating to Intota: Updates and Dispatches from the Front (the speaker is pretty awesome and definitely on the front lines of this...and I may have suggested the subtitle in a late night phone call yesterday) - Holly's favorite Anna
Quick, somebody get me an "I voted" sticker! - Marie
MAPing Scopus and Web of Science: Using Massive Amounts of Data for Collection Analysis (And thank you Marie for inquiring!) - Galadriel C.
lris
Well! Turns out I'll be presenting a workshop at LOEX next spring. Wheee!
nice! - RepoRat
In Denver! Double-like! - Steele Lawman
Yay! - Joe
I would like to quadruple-like this, for reasons. - kaijsa
p.s. Iris didn't brag about this, but she's not just presenting a workshop. She's presenting THE INVITED pre-conference workshop. - kaijsa
Cool. - Joe
Woo hoo! - Galadriel C.
congrats! What are you presenting on? - YvonneM
lris
My favorite stapler-related exchange of the day (Ann is my department head).
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Depending on the "people years" benchmark chosen, those maths are spot on... time to change Gigi's name to Methuselah? - Aaron the Librarian
lris
Dear vendors, you cold call me when I don't want your stuff, but then when I contact you and beg to give you my money, you don't return my call. I'm confused.
Too busy cold calling folks who don't want their stuff, obviously! - WebGoddess
been there, done that. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
so much this. also, invoices are similarly missing/overshared - ~Courtney F
Yes! Repeated emails and phone calls, going over head of sales rep, and still going on 3 weeks. My kingdom for a price quote! - Jen
Holly's favorite Anna
Subject line for my eleventybillionth report of full-text online items not being linked to the full-text from Summon: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
The reply begins with, "Although it may seem 'inconceivable', we are aware of this linking issue and are working on a solution." - Holly's favorite Anna
Steele Lawman
Me in class today: "Remember that JSTOR only digitizes a limited number of journals in each discipline. For example, in the subject of history, there are only...over 5,000... Ok, that's actually a crapton, but..."
History is the bread and butter of JSTOR. :) - Holly's favorite Anna
For my journalism & PR students, i emphasize the STOR in JStor, telling them that it's not current - which is what they need. JStor has great name recognition, but it's the WRONG database for mai students, generally. *sigh* - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Coverage is great in lit, but our profs want lit students entering the *current* conversation in the crit, so they require sources to be <10 years old. I have to flat out tell them to keep their grubby mitts off JSTOR and go to to MLA first. - kaijsa
Joe
LSW: Joe
Thinking back to this exact date 6 years ago.... Thanks LSW Peeps Steve, LauraX, Josh, Kaijsa, and many others. http://librarycampwest.pbworks.com
Oh wow! I didn't realize we were at the anniversary. Thanks for the reminder, Joe. It wouldn't have happened without you. - Steele Lawman
Wow! I was just drinking from my LCOW mug this morning. - laura x from iPhone
Still waiting for promised LCOW mug from Steve :) - Kathryn is a free elf
That was my first unconf, and remains the best one I've attended. - kaijsa
I still have an extra one that hasn't cracked or gone kabloooey. Shipping to Australia can't be too expensive, right? Can you DM me your mailing address? - Joe
Catherine Pellegrino
It's never a good sign when a guy with a pipe snake and heavy boots walks into the library.
nnnnnnnnnnnope. - RepoRat
Pipe Snake Dude left just a few minutes after he arrived, and zipped off in his little Maintenancemobile. Backwards. - Catherine Pellegrino
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Come work with me! (but not for me, or me for you) "Associate Director Library Research Services and Learning Spaces" http://www.uncw.edu/hr...
That is a very compelling ad. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
If anyone has any questions I'll do my best to answer them. I love working here (and being next to the beach) ! - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
The position sounds very interesting... - kaijsa
Lecturer, non-tenure track? Is this standard in the uncw libraries? - Aaron the Librarian from Android
I glossed over that, mostly with a hurrah for "administration, not requiring research". But, that's an excellent question. Also note the 11 month contract-- plus 22 vacation days! An actual required month off, plus other vacation time? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
my previous job had two months off in the summer but NO vacation. You had to borrow against the summer to take any days off - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Steele Lawman
So I re-installed YikYak just in time to see students claiming they had sex in the library last night.
yay. also I bet they were lying. - RepoRat
Young adults lying about sex in an anonymous online forum? Surely you jest! - Steele Lawman
Huh, mine aren't bad at all. Though one is complaining about the wifi at Stephen's work? - Meg VMeg
Our study rooms have clear glass walls for related reasons. - kaijsa
Same for us, but some students have figured out that the moveable white boards do a good job of covering up those windows. - Joe
Ours get the boot if they cover the windows! - kaijsa
I was inspired to peek at ours again and found that somebody is doing a Gossip Squirrel thing. "Spotted: Squirrelrina Van Der Woodsen eating an apple core on a trash can. I heard she was dating Nut Archibald but he is nowhere to be found. -XOXO Gossip Squirrel." I approve. - kaijsa
Oh, that's quite good. Our students have a thing for squirrels, too. It's sex, food/bathroom, drinking/drugs, slandering the college president, complaining about campus technology, and squirrels, roughly in that order. - Steele Lawman
I am on the verge of installing it here... - laura x from iPhone
I don't have a device that would support it, but even if I did, there is not enough money in the WORLD to get me to see what ND students are posting. No. Way. - Catherine Pellegrino
Someone is spamming ours with Bible quotes and it's pissing everyone off. - Meg VMeg
I deleted my app again because I don't need to see all the "I'm so drunk in class" posts (ugh), but was happy to see a bunch of our students who post fond things about some of our local eccentrics. They seem to enjoy seeing people let their freak flags fly, which is nice. - kaijsa
My latest favorite: "I apologize to my neighbors for the dying whale sounds. I'm trying to get out of bed." - Julie Kane
(Most of ours are about Netflix and mainlining Gilmore Girls episodes when not slamming the wifi). Also, everybody seems to want a Cuddle Buddy. - Julie Kane
Why do classes start so early on Friday, food in Burge, complaints about other people having sex, Adderall, pro/con Asian students, I wish I had a boyfriend. It's actually sort of sweet. - laura x
Oh, why did I download Yik Yak... - Rachel Walden
Rachel, I hear ya. More like Yik Yuck a lot of the time: racism, sexism, ...and more! - Stephen Francoeur
lris
About to present on the ACRL Framework of Information Literacy. Here's hoping someone will show up... #mla2014
How'd it go? - Aaron the Librarian
I think it went fine. We had about 25 people which is great for a very public library focused conference. - lris
Heard good things on Twitter. - barbara fister
laura x
Whoever took the link to the library off the front page of uiowa.edu is dead to me. (Because it's so hard for me to type in lib.uiowa.edu. But seriously. It stymies me every time.)
I wish we'd collectively decide whether the library subdomain is library. or libraries. or lib. or libs. or heydoyourresearchhere. or whatever. - RepoRat
Or we could be like most successful commercial sites and have all the lib/library/libraries/etc. URLs redirect to the correct one. - Steele Lawman
BUT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE can't have that. - RepoRat
At least you're not us. We have a www-lib address. Yes, it's weird. - kaijsa
we are .edu/library but at least that's better than .edu/~library, which is what we used to be. - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, yes. UWYO wins for sheer weirdness. - laura x
Actually, wait. I think .edu/~library was an alias or something that redirected to .edu/TeachingResearch/library. - Catherine Pellegrino
Laura, we win for weirdness in so many ways. - kaijsa
I type "l" and hit enter. Which isn't the point really but auto-complete ftw. - Deborah Fitchett
lris
Student: "I can't read the page of this book I need because the page is, like, connected?" Explained about the way books used to be printed while taking her back to preservation to have the page slit. :)
YvonneM
Instruction question--what's a good way to explain to students why the DB uses subject terms that are much different than from what they might type into the DB unaided?
I always say it is because databases are very literal. They don't understand which meaning of the word you mean. E.g. nursing, cavity, Ed (emergency dept or education) - Hedgehog from Android
also, I call the subjects "tags." Maybe they'd understand that different people would apply different tags to the same item? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Seconding Stephanie's advice. I tend to use the word "tags" for the same reasons. - Stephen Francoeur
Thanks. I do the literal thing sometimes too. I like the word "tag." - YvonneM
I say that subject headings are what librarians think they should be, not what normal people think they should be. Which at least flags them as useful but problematic, without actually explaining why they are that way. - Steele Lawman
All of this. Also, it has to do with learning disciplinary lingo. What terms would a sociologist/psychologist/anthropologist use for this concept? - maʀtha
I also give the example of diabetes - who wants to search for >10 different terms for diabetes? The correct subject heading exploded retrieves everything regardless of variations in terminology. - maʀtha
I explain to them that there are a lot of different ways people could write about the same concept, and give them an example (e.g, heart attack, MI, myocardial infarction), and explain that using the subject terms help make sure they're using the "right" term for the database, helping them capture articles on the topic even if people wrote about them in different ways - Rachel Walden
sometimes, depending on the audience, I tell them that it's like learning another language - along the lines of what others have said. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I say that there are different groups all referring to the same concept by different names so they have to pick one name and go with it, even if it a) isn't what you'd call it b) might be slightly different in connotation (like optical radar, ladar, lidar) - Christina Pikas
lris
OH MY GOODNESS OH MY GOODNESS OH MY GOODNESS AHHHHHHH. My offer on that house was accepted. *faints*
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! - Catherine Pellegrino
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! wooooooooooooo! - maʀtha
Good for you - Eric - It's My Thing
Congrats. - Walt Crawford
Wooohoooo! - Kirsten
hilariously, the next step appears to be to go to my realtor's office and sign many of the same documents again - lris
buy a foreclosure, kill a forest - lris
*begins planning house warming* - MoTO: Team Marina
Hooray!!!! - Galadriel C.
Can I borrow your lawn mower? - Glen Campbell
Too soon? - Glen Campbell
Uhm Glen? Get in line. - MoTO: Team Marina
Sure thing. One of you buy me a lawnmower and then I'll be glad to lend one out. :) - lris
Party at Iris' house! Congrats Iris. you deserve an awesome place to live. And Iris.,, it is buy ANYHOUSE kill a forest. - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫
Congrats! - Jen
Congratulations! If only you could use your thumbprint to sign documents. It's be so less tiresome. - Arlan K.
A couple of minutes ago I thought I should check FF to see if Iris has heard about her house. And here it is! So happy for you. Congratulations. - Mama Lawson
You will soon develop an intimate knowledge of the workings of entropy. Congratulations! - maʀtha
Oh, believe me, I already have an intimate knowledge of the workings of entropy. This will simply give that force a larger playpen. - lris
At what point do I wake up and realize that this whole thing is a dream? - lris
Ok, signing EXACTLY the same papers as I signed last week was an exercise in hilarity. - lris
yayayayayayayyayyayaya!!! - Sir Shuping is just sir
Congrats! - Katy S
Steve's Mr. 12 and Mr. 9 were here last night. I asked Mr. 9 if he'd seen pictures of your house and he hadn't, so we looked at them together. He thinks it's a beautiful house, and he wishes he could see it in person. He obviously still has a thing for you, and he's adorable about it. - Mama Lawson
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww <3 - lris
I hope that some day he can come visit. That would be tons of fun. - lris
laura x
Fwd: Here is where you recommend books for the mystery book discussion group I run at the library. Go!
Best mystery books by little known authors? https://www.goodreads.com/list... [eta: or the superset of mysteries: https://www.goodreads.com/list... ] - Aaron the Librarian
One offs or series? I mostly ready cozy mysteries--by the pile if I can find an author I like. - Hedgehog
Either is fine. It's a group that's been running for 20 years. I inherited it 4 years ago, and I don't generally read mysteries, so it's been interesting. - laura x
Is there a particular subgenre of mystery your group likes? I find Tana French's books (more crime fiction than mystery, but definitely mystery) are good for conversation. Also Night Film. - kaijsa
Also I'm reading G.M. Ford's Leo Waterman series, which I admit to enjoying partly because it's set in Seattle. Pretty gritty, but funny in spots. - kaijsa
They're all over the map. We read Night Film this year and had a great discussion--I think about a quarter of them loved it and the rest hated it, which is always fun. - laura x
That is fun! My book group was divided on Night Film, but everybody was engaged in talking about it. - kaijsa
I'll second the Tana French books. I don't read many mysteries but I really liked those and there would definitely be things to discuss. - kristin buxton
Ooh, I loved the Last Policeman series. They're mysteries, but also about "being" a detective, what that means. The book starts with this plot point: an asteroid is racing towards Earth and going to end the entire human race. So the books are very existential, why even try to solve murders? etc. [edited to give goodreads link instead of Amazon] http://www.goodreads.com/book... - Regular Amanda
(For a moment I thought Last Policeman was a book version of the Peter Davison TV series, but that was called The Last Detective. It's a good show, btw.) - bentley
Lindsay Faye's series set in 19th century New York are terrific. And I usually don't read historical mysteries. - barbara fister
It seems like you would've already checked these out, laura, but barbara's *own* mystery novels are pretty splendid - I've read and deeply enjoyed both in the Anni Koskinen series, and they have (unsurprisingly considering the author) an awareness of social justice that seems like it might appeal to you as well as your group. (the first of those is called In the Wind.) - Marianne
"Fallen Into the Pit" by Ellis Peters, the first in the Inspector George Felse series https://www.goodreads.com/book... - Holly's favorite Anna
for something a little silly and appealing to your sci-fi nerds, "Bimbos of the Death Sun" by Sharyn McCrumb https://www.goodreads.com/book... - Holly's favorite Anna
Two science fiction/fantasy mysteries I've read this year that I really enjoyed were Scalzi's Lock In and The Rook by Daniel O'Malley. - Katie
Yes on Tana French as well. - YvonneM
{{ marianne }} aw, thanks. Actually, I think Laura already did that and gave interestng feedback. - barbara fister
lris
Why yes, I am hopping mad. Here’s why. #teamharpy - http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2014...
When this got shared on facebook I realized that many folks in that area won't understand the context, so I added the following note: - lris
[Edited to add: for those of you who don't know about #teamharpy, conversations about sexual harassment in libraryland were recently sparked off by one prominent male librarian suing two women for 1.25 million dollars. He's claiming defamation because they spoke out about his harassment. Libraryland is in heated conversation, now, about power dynamics, the silencing affect that lawsuits... more... - lris
*sigh* I haven't seen or experienced any of this, and I find it sooooo troubling. (I do believe it). Maybe 'cause I was never one of the cool kids. still: ick. Thank you for writing your perspective. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Well that's just it, Stephanie. I've spoke with a few people who said that when they finally decided this was for the birds, they were kicked out from the "cool kids" circle and felt ostracized. There's something about that cool kids circle that seems to enable all of this. Personally, I've seen a lot less than other people I know, probably partially because I'm not conventionally pretty. Small blessings. - lris
[side note: nearly all of the cool kids I've met were not harassers] - lris
cool kid...? --> - Julian
^ yes, in a good way - lris
Ugh. Ive been following the conversation on this in ALATT on FB, and it's fucking awful. - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Oh yeah, the ALATT thread I read yesterday was a total trainwreck. - maʀtha
RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Do any of you have experience meditating between faculty wanting to scrape subscribed vendor content, and the vendor?
Have you checked your license? A couple of our vendors already allow this without our asking. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Also, good luck! - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
yup. i usually try and negotiate mining rights with the vendor. - jambina
Jambina, one of my faculty contacted EconLit directly, (not ProQuest, who we get EconLit through), and all I know is this is new to me, and I don't know what my role is. Can I pick your brain a bit over email? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Jaclyn, no. I was brought in late in the discussion -- although he did go this route because I overheard him talking about scraping JSTOR, and inserted myself into that process.... I'm glad he heard. I'm super glad that all the other profs in the discussion launched in to a discussion of Aaron Swartz too! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We are getting requests for this more and more, and finding that it requires negotiations with the individual vendors. I just starting agitating in my local consortium for some leadership on this -- I'd love to see the library world have some standards/ethics/best practices around text/data mining/scraping, and pressure vendors to provide this type of access. There was some discussion on the ACRL digital humanities list about this, too. - Regular Amanda
I've seen places which say they would prefer not to be scraped - but will happily license access to the backend data... didn't JSTOR start talking like this recently?) - Aaron the Librarian
Just a note: I was also referring to negotiations w/ vendors to provide licensed access to the backend via API or other means, rather than scraping. Elsevier started offering an API, and I heard IEEE also has an API that can be accessed on a case-by-case basis. - Regular Amanda
Oh nice, thanks! Based on this project, I don't think scraping will get him what he wants (I think what he needs is the metadata in tabular format, despite what he asked for. APIs would be great!). We're in discussions with ProQuest now. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
So here's my engaging activity for this afternoon's class (for PhD student of prof who wanted more engagement in instruction): when we do the "think up keywords for your topic" portion of the class, I will have them type their search into a Google form. then i'll copy & paste all their searches into a Wordle. Then I'll search the big words from the
wordle in the appropriate EBSCO database. Then we will discuss pros & cons of those search terms. Curious to see if that engages them. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
also, curious to see 18 different search strings. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
How did it work out? - Soup in a TARDIS
Let us know how it goes! - YvonneM
it was fun - a little time-consuming, but effective. The students were definitely engaged. I would do it again. Will post the wordle tomorrow. :-) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
cool! - YvonneM
now that might actually be a useful use for a Wordle! I might have to share that one - ~Courtney F
Very cool idea. - barbara fister
… wondering if I should attempt with 50 students on Thursday … … I think it will … #brave - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
colleague tried this just now. fell flat I think. - aaron from BuddyFeed
yeah, it's tricky. what didn't work, d'you think, aaron? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I was just observing, but i think almost everyone entered the same search terms. - aaron
mine seemed to like the activity of typing something. I'm not convinced it added anything but time … but they did seem to like it, so i'll try again. Plus it's kind of neat to see what they searched for -- like "Beyoncé and Jay Z's PR team, public statements, marriage issues Blue Ivy " - is what they'd type into Mr. Google. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
lris
At the reference desk, referencing.
Meg VMeg
Kinda stressful/awkward doing a one-shot for grad-level instructional design class. I kept wanting to say, "Sure, I could get away with incorporating more active learning into this session if you were really my students, but I promise that it would only lead to resentment and boredom in this situation. Personal evidence-based, yo."
"Instead of class tonight, we're going to watch this filmstrip. Who wants to volunteer to advance the film?" - Stephen Francoeur
Ha! In my experiences with grad one-offs, as soon as the words, "smalllll grouuuuupssss," leave my mouth in slow motion, the disdain is as palpable as though I've just informed them, "hey guys, we are going to play a fun get-to-know-one-another game!!" I can't take it. - Meg VMeg
This is fascinating to me. Do they really prefer just straight lecture? Or is it that they're instructional design students? Or is it both? - Catherine Pellegrino
Oh, this is my first/last instructional design class (subbing for their usual librarian), which is why it was stressful. I don't know what the grad students want. It feels like, when I ask them to *do* something, they think I'm wasting their time? It's not enough information for them? They think it's a ploy? My MLS students are more willing to humor me (BECAUSE I CAN DESTROY THEM???? or because they trust I'm not making them do it for my own self-satisfaction? dunno) - Meg VMeg
Again: fascinating! I guess I would anticipate that grad students in general would have less patience with small-groups-active-learning stuff and be all, "we're in this for real, we can take the straight lecture, don't waste our time with this namby-pamby feelgood bullshit," except for the part where these are instructional design grad students, who presumably would KNOW BETTER. Or maybe they feel like, BECAUSE they know better, they can skip all that? I dunno. But I'm still fascinated. - Catherine Pellegrino
that was gonna be my guess too. even in MLS teaching I get some people who get downright offended if I use any teaching technique that doesn't come across as 100% Srs Bzns. - RepoRat
In my experience, if there's not something immediately useful in it for them, the adult/grad students tune out. I get more meaningful teaching moments in the post-talk walk-around. - GretelSK
If it's something I think they've heard before, I tell them to think of it as something they can turn around & teach their students. to them: don't pay attention for yourself, pay attention for your future students. I dunno if it helps, but it makes me feel better. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I'm just gonna say that teacher-types are some of the worst students to deal with. They all want to be the ones teaching and struggle with being in the learner seat. They're also some of the most fun people, but the pain is real, yo. - kaijsa
^^ Yes! As you say, generally really interesting people, but also used to being professionals in a professional setting, and (I'll horribly generalize here) want me to answer their individual off-topic question RIGHT NOW instead of going with the flow of the class and letting me lead everyone there together. And these are usually busy folks, so I can respect that, but the class isn't me... more... - Regular Amanda
That is really interesting. My MSW students used to glaze over and look resentful at my lecture style research seminar. The vast majority of them are much happier with the "pair up and do stuff" version I have now. Maybe I just suck that bad at lecturing... - LibrarianOnTheLoose
Regular Amanda
Just in case you missed it, I think laura x knocked it out of the park on #teamharpy: http://www.newrambler.net/lisdom...
Goodness. Thank you. - laura x from iPhone
lris
Living and working with a chronic illness - http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2014...
Lovely post, Iris. Thank you for sharing. - Andy
I'm so sorry I missed this til today, brave, beautiful woman. Well written, and thank you for sharing! - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤ from iPhone
lris
"You librarians are like the Michael Jordons of research. Watching you do that is like watching a perfect three-pointer. Swish."
I'm more like the Bill Lambeer of research, myself. - Steele Lawman
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