@directeur Well race -- it's just a social construct. At the end of the day, we're all human, flesh and blood. Race is just a factor of the power imbalance in the world -- created along ethnic lines. - Shey
@Shey: I'm white but look at my avatar :) I have so much respect for every nice man/woman in this earth. The race things is because we "generally" have eyes. How do blind people "see" the race thing? See what I mean? :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
Blind people see the race thing just like everyone else really does, as a cultural values thing. Even blind people know glorifying living in the ghetto and pimpin' hos is probably not a good idea from a social context. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
Awesome post, Shey. I'm glad people actually posted about this. - Rahsheen Porter
I had never seen the video at the end... doesn't surprise me though - Bwana McCall
I have to ask though; isn't this a year old why all the heat now? I had no idea who this guy was until Corvida and You posted about it. Maybe as a black bloggger it would only seem right if i expressed my 2 cents on it too - Gordon Swaby
Alexander's comment is exactly the problem racism yields. There is no "Black Culture" that glorifies "pimping hoes" or living in the ghetto. What you see on TV, and what is reality are not the same. The idea that Blacks have "lower cultural values" is at the core of racist ideology. - Jasmin Smith
Gordon, I never saw it recently either, literally a couple weeks ago. Blog away if you like :) - Shey
Key race is the human race! The rest is just details. - Mark Forman
Somebody apparently dug it up. Probably when they found out about the Verizon deal. I read somewhere that he had pissed of some other people before this, so they could possibly have had something to do with it. - Rahsheen Porter
One of the things I like about FriendFeed is that it proves Loren's video assertion (comical or otherwise) is untrue. That there are black nerds and bloggers and are adding to the conversation. It is very refreshing to me to hear from black people and women on the internet. I like to get a better sampling of "people" not middle-aged white men. All I need for that one is the mirror or listening to my own thoughts. - Mark Forman
Funny you should say that, Jasmin, because that's the culture black cultural entrepreneurs are selling. Look at urban culture in general and look to who produces it. Largely middle-class blacks from urban homes. If we can't expect they know what best sells to their home communities, who can we? - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
The comment I made on the Mashable post was that in competitive improv, we were taught never to go for the "easy" humor because it's not respectable and its not sustainable. All Loren Feldman has going for him is an easy laugh obtained from a sea of classless appreciators. He deserved to get this ripped away from him. - Jennifer Leggio
OK Alexander. Let's look at the So-Called Black Music Industry (Specifically hip hop/R&B. Who creates and markets it... white men... who buys it.. white kids... - Jasmin Smith
Well said Mark. I need to ask how long ago did he get the "verizion deal"? Because i was watching one of his videos where he was commenting on it and he lauded himself for getting the deal; seemed a tad bit excited, must have been a shame to lose it. - Gordon Swaby
@Shey, sadly racism is alive and well in America. Your post was spot-on. Bravos! - Dave Martin
I defy someone to find me another place - online or in the real world - that facilitates conversations like this about topics as sensitive as this. You find me a place where people regularly express the thoughts and ideas that have been expressed above about a topic like this and I will frequent it every bit as often as I do Friend Feed (ok maybe not EVERY bit - there are only so many hours in a day...) - Marco
Marco, absolutely - this is why I can`t stop blogging about FriendFeed :) - Shey
It would be good if my question was answered, please and thank you. - Gordon Swaby
Thanks Dave, unfortunately there are many who turn a blind eye or will even deny it. - Shey
@Dave Martin Racism is alive and well here in Canada too. Don't even get me started.. especially when it comes to how Canada has treated and continues to treat our Aboriginal people. Sadly, unless you've experienced the negative effects of racism directly, it's difficult to understand the lived experiences of people who are discriminated against SOLELY because of the colour of their skin... not their "lack of moral character" as our friend Alexander has mistakenly suggested. - Jasmin Smith
Jasmin, you must be living in an interesting parallel world. I think I can say with some comfortable surety at least in the context of Atlanta's hip hop media and entertainment industry that it's very, very predominantly a black enterprise. White kids may be buying it up in bulk, but that's because there are a lot of white kids and somewhat fewer black kids. Thus the term "minority." - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
Wow.. I saw this friend feed post and it sent me on a wild tangent through the web to Corvida's site and to the TechCrunch article that I somehow missed. Glad to see things come back around regardless of who the target was. - Adam Helweh
Unfortunately I think Feldman and his "shock jock" nature will try to capitalize on this negative publicity somehow. :-/ - Jennifer Leggio
Alex, I live in Canada, thanks.... but in your country, (America I presume) the Hip Hop industry is overwhelming supported by young white kids, and financially backed by their older white "parents and grandparents." While Black men and women stand as the figureheads in the industry, with the exception of a few big names, the money goes into the hands of the top execs.. who are predominately White. - Jasmin Smith
@Alexander, I am an artist in Atlanta. I know many other artists in Atlanta. The problem is that these artists talk about what they live. The big record companies help to market and glorify these things. White kids support this industry. The record companies put the black artists in positions where it looks like they run the show, but they are just managers/supervisors...not CEO's. - Rahsheen Porter
and while we're on the issue of "minorities" -- it has nothing to do with numbers and EVERYTHING to do with which groups hold the POWER in society. Racism is then perpetuated through the maintenance of these power structures along "racial lines" -- promoting stereotypes to denigrate racial minorities, all the while elevate whiteness to "the norm" (intentionally and unintentionally) which further stratifies society... - Jasmin Smith
Jennifer-who's to say he isn't the one to instigate the Verizon protest issue. It's possible that Verizon deal not so great and he hoped to generate even more publicity through this brouhaha. Hard to say when you're dealing with performance artist that is comfortable using "shock." Anything is possible. Loren might be many things but certainly dumb isn't one of them. - Mark Forman
that's kinda funny. I love when companies don't get along - Stefan Hayden
"Although the majority of the [Apple] stores contacted by AppleInsider said they were still unsure whether they'd be selling the new iPhone, one representative ultimately confirmed that Rogers and its partner stores will be the only place to buy iPhone 3G come Friday. Canadian Apple retail stores will, however, have demo units on hand the same day." -- http://tinyurl.com/5usz7a - Ken Sheppardson
Cablecos and Telcos control the market too much in Canada. They overcharge us and undeliver on content, service offerings and customer service.It's good to see consumers potentially having a hand in Apple's decision. - Chris Herbert
It's allegedly in response to "confiscatory" rate plans proposed by Rogers. - bob corrigan
To counter all of the iPhone craziness, I am getting a Blackberry this week. - pcnerd37
Drama! You mean I can't get it at one of the 6 Apple stores in 4 cities!? http://www.apple.com/ca/retail... I have to go to one of the 390 Rogers retail stores. OH NO! - Andrew Smith
Good for Apple. The plans rodger's is offering are ridiculous - Will Hirsbrunner
Neither breaking news nor is the iPhone 3G pulled back from Canada. Only a mistake from Michael Arrington.... - Matthias Schwenk
Saad! Just hope the northerners don't make their way down to Seattle and clog up my line! :P - John Barker
In Portugal Vodafone is selling the iphone 16GB at €399,90 plus €29,90/month with 100 minutes, 100 sms and 250GB data limit. - Pedro Fonseca via twhirl
Michael, don't become valleywag. At least say "pulls iPhone 35 from its stores in Canada" - though I seriously wished they could pull the iPhone completely. Rogers needs to be taught a serious lesson. - Kamath
I went to the Eaton center Apple store last weekend and asked about iphone cases (didn't even mention the new iphone). I got a curt "I don't think we will we even carrying the iphone at the store". - Kamath
What bothers me is how much these national telecom oligarchies are effectively monopolies because of collusion like this. Both companies institute the same policy at the same time so consumers don't have billing choice? - Bret Taylor
Just moved to Canada from Bangkok, Thailand. where telecoms and consumer banking go, I feel like I moved to the middle ages instead... - Kamath
IIRC, the markup on text messaging costs are 6000%. Now they claim that you need to pay for incoming because the infrastructure costs are too high? - Nick Munson
@Bret, Others on plans from Rogers (&Fido) for example avoid this for now. But there's no way that Rogers won't do the same eventually. Ridiculous. - Nick Munson
This might be the first time I'm happy to be a Rogers user. Though that doesn't make me less angry at them for their iPhone plans. - jenn schachter
@jenn agreed. it's a bad time to own a cell phone in Canada no matter who your provider is. - Nick Munson
Wait, I thought Canada was supposed to be awesome. Was I lied to? - ⓞnor
Well an added bonus to the situation is if you get spam text messages, you will still be charged! Makes one wonder if they will hire a company to spam cellular phones. - Herman
no but it is kinda strange... well, I guess it really depends on if you develop an emotional attachment to the robot. But no cheating is not really tied to that. That's a tough question. - Kris Kelley
Best person to ask is your partner. If they consider it cheating, it's cheating. - Craig Thomler
My son says "no, it's just weird." Maryam says "I'm not sure I'd want to be with you if you had sex with a robot." (She meant that if I had gotten to the place that I'd want to have sex with a robot that I'd probably have lost all my marbles and/or found something inanimate worthy of doing that with would make her feel unloved/unappreciated). So, maybe it's not cheating, but it sure would bring discord into this family. - Robert Scoble
Straight out of A.I.! I remember Jude Law playing Joe the robo-gigolo! Is it cheating? No, as long as you're not in a relationship with someone! Do I think its weird? Absolutely! Do I think it will be a thing of the future? Yes. Some people can't get the love of their life, for a few grand, they could. - Michael Forian
Of all the problems that bringing intelligent artificial life into this world will solve, having sex with a robotic hooker and getting away with it on a technicality (technicality hahahaha) is probably what drives A.I. scientists most... - Kamath
I asked my girl and she got worried about me! She didn't know why I was asking. Anyway, she says she wouldn't consider it cheating, but it would be just weird. She also said if she were married to me it would be grounds for divorce because it was so weird. Haha. - Dennis Jackson
Hey Chris - Checked your site but couldn't find the "Unboxing the Robot Hooker" video?? - :) - David W
Yeah, on your computer. No longer do you spend long hours hunting for porn you haven't seen 20 times already. Now you have your robot. Hardly even check your email anymore. - Jack Carlson
have you seen battlestar galactica? Six and three threesome is where it's at! - Ralph Whitbeck
Outstanding response to the hecklers by Bush in front of the newcomers, many of them coming from places where such behavior would not be remotely tolerated. Perhaps some of the Daily Kossack blog kiddies would enjoy pulling their heckling bullshit in someplace like Tehran ( http://yweb.com/1jj ). - William, CPU Media
Yes, it's nice to see that the First Amendment still means something. If only we could start obeying all the other parts of the Constitution, we'd be set! - Lon Harris via twhirl
if Bush would have it his way (off camera) he would have called out the SWAT Team on those folks and pulled the trigger. But since it was all ON camera, he couldn't. But all their names were collected and he'll seek revenge - later - Marc Canter
Yep. There are still radicals who see fit to interpret parts of the Constitution differently than the Supreme Court, for example ( http://yweb.com/1jk ) - William, CPU Media
The hecklers were cowards who knew damned well that they were risking NOTHING. C'mon, calling Bush a "war criminal" is taking a risk? The kiddies were bogus toughs looking for cheap thrills. Let them pull the same stunt in Zimbabwe. Then they can see if Joe Trippi can get them out of a jam. Heh. - William, CPU Media
What does Joe Trippi have to do with any of this? - Andrew Burd
Joe Trippi, with the same blustering risk-free bravado as the above mentioned kiddies, decided to take on Zimbabwe's bad boys by heckling them from the safety of American TV studios, his Twitter feed, and his home-made chicken coop. Risk-free, didn't change a damn thing, but it made him feel better. True grit, that Joe. - William, CPU Media
William: aren't you engaged in the exact sort of impotent and risk-free behavior right here in this thread? You are in no danger and are just getting your rocks off being voicing your thoughts. - Andrew Burd
So, stating your disagreement with a Supreme Court decision violates the Constitution, Wm? That's kind of a backwards view of things, don't you think? I was more talking about secretly spying on American citizens, or disappearing people for years without charge or trial. That sort of thing. Rather than, you know, trying to start a conversation. - Lon Harris
I an Indian (the Asian variety) but am a history buff especially when it comes to democratic history. The "good foundation" that you mentioned was solidified and 'set' by the 60s generation. Whichever historical account I read, I find the 60s mentioned as the generation that understood what they had been given a couple of hundred years ago and finally understood the responsiblity that comes with it. - Kamath
Well ... at least *one* Constitution is holding up ... (holding breath for 6 more months) - Clarence Chiang
The hilarious thing about the contemporary American left is its unseriousness. Bush a 'fascist'? He's a Chamber of Commerce Republican. He's an ideological twin of the guy who owns your bagel shop or your plumber. - Rob Sterling
It's always amusing to see lightweights taking pot shots at risk-free targets: ie. the US of A and GW Bush. Let them put their bluster where their mouths are and try it someplace where it might really make a difference. Somehow, I think that they just don't have it in them. In any case, it's been real gentlemen. I'm off to Pamplona to run with the bulls tomorrow AM. Don't do anything I wouldn't do. - William, CPU Media
By definition, as supreme arbiter of the Constitution a SCOTUS decision cannot violate said Constitution. Unless, of course, by "violate" you mean decide something that you are not in agreement with. Isn't that the case here? - William, CPU Media
You have now dodged the question. No one was stating that the SCOTUS decision was not the law. The ACLU was taking issue with the decision itself, as anyone would agree is their right. So what's your point? - Lon Harris via twhirl
This kind of demonstration is lacking among our generation...four years in college at UVA and I witnessed (admittedly didn't participate in) one "sit-in" for Tibet, and one act of vandalism against the war in Iraq. Isn't what we're calling "moderatization" of our generation really complacency? Wasn't that the theme of Redford's "Lions For Lambs"? Notice they were all the 50+ year-olds in this clip. Read http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07... - Brenna Clerkin
The Baldwinsville Diner in Baldwinsville, NY (outside of Syracuse, NY) - George Smith
Chris just ate there last week, Robert, and said I had to check it out...good veg options - Elisa Camahort Page
When I lived in downtown Charleston, SC I would frequent this place called Norm's several nights a week (it was a two-block walk from my house). Great food, everybody knows me in there. I still go, just less often now that I've moved 15 minutes away (and parking is a hassle downtown). - Jared (W.) Smith
Habibi Snack, Lebanese, Porte Saint Cloud, Paris -- outstanding beef sausage, much better than Noura & Al Dar - William, CPU Media
I love it. The cashier talks to us about our iPhones and says he is getting the 3G on Friday. There also is a Yelp sticker in the window. - Robert Scoble
Elisa: my brother-in-law has been coming here for decades and says there is always a line. - Robert Scoble
That Falafel place has been there for at least 25 years and is among my favorites. What are you doing, going from 1 locals eatery to the next today? - shelisrael1
Hard choices for best: there's a great restaurant on the access road in Glacier Park in Montana, or Latitude 66(I think) in Oxford, Md behind a gas station, those come to mind - clarke thomas via fftogo
Little Dewie's BBQ in Starkville, MS or The Red Planet Diner in Sedona, AZ - Tad Donaghe
1. El Paseo in Mill Valley. Still very low key French Restaurant run by award winning five star Japanese chefs. Go before it's ruined by Yelpers. Price Fixe menu has wine pairing and is reasonably priced. - Mona N
Shel: it opened in 1966. This is my first time. It is awesome. - Robert Scoble
Gates BBQ in Kansas City - It's not EXACTLY a hole-in-the-wall, but since it's had health code issues in the past it counts. - James O'Malley via twhirl
2. Crif-dog (not really hole in the wall) in the East Village, NYC. It's tad of a walk from Astor so there are more locals than tourists. The hot dogs have a bite to the casing. AND they have tater tots, Space Invaders ARCADE. It's all sorts of awesome. - Mona N
Favorite here in Denver is Queen of Sheba - best Ethiopian restaurant ever. Period. I've been to a lot of them. Zhodi's QofS dominates. - Lucretia Pruitt
Little Havana Sandwich Shop in atlanta or the greasetrucks on Rutgers campus in NJ - joshuabacker
3. Halal truck on Exchange Place and Broad St (Wall Street) The lunchtime rush for this truck is INSANE. The line extends around the block. MUCH better than the tourist attraction 'infamous' truck near Rockefeller Center - Mona N
Pete it is south of Valley Fair Mall by a few blocks. Corner of Stevens Creek and Revey Av. - Robert Scoble
4. M's Cafe in the inner sunset, on 9th b/w Irving and Judah. Only open for breakfast and lunch. Their grilled ham and cheese sandwich has REAL ham. As in Canadian Bacon. And the french fries are criss cut too. All for 5.95. yes please - Mona N
That's near where I live. I live right down the San Thomas Express from there. I like Fast Wok on Hamilton right of San Thomas also. - Bjorn Tipling
This little tiny hole called "Istanbul" on Hollywood Beach (Florida). Best food and, awesome people too. - Candace Holly
Woofies, the home of the Dignified Hot Dog in St Louis - Dave Ploch
le refuge in alexandria, va (great french food, best chocolate creme brulee ever): havana in walnut creek, ca (really nice cuban place, super mojitos): stratford court cafe in del mar, ca (outside deck, really good sandwiches) - AJ Kohn
Bad Question when I'm hungry! I'll say any of Portland, Oregon's "Stanich's" Great burgers, fries, and beers. No fuss, no hassles! - Christopher Harley
@James O'Malley: Just off King, on N. Washington. I haven't been there in years but it was a huge find when I lived in Crystal City. http://www.lerefugealexandria.... - AJ Kohn
Robert -- if it is the one about a mile east of Valley Fair, then, yes, I agree it is excellent. If you are at another one, then I want to know which one you visited. - Jerry Chacon
okay, last time. I forgot all my emeryville haunts: Bakesale Betty's in Oakland (great friend chicken sandwhich, not greasy! - Chez Panisse migrants, excellent desserts); Townhouse Bar and Grill in Emeryville (looks like a rat trap from the outside but is quite amazing, Bradley Ogden type food) and Vic's in Berkeley (great Indian food in a odd cavernous cafeteria like warehouse) - AJ Kohn
Toronto: Gandhi's Roti, Queens St W (indian Carribean), Yuh Tang on Elizabeth St (Chinese) - Kamath via twhirl
Toronto: Gandhi's Roti on Queens St W, Yuh Tang on Elizabeth & Dundas, There's also a soup-filled dumpling place in China Town (Spadina) that I think is amazing but can't remember the name. - Kamath via twhirl
Art's Cafe on Irving and 9th in the inner Sunset - Vera Yu
Robert: did you hit Stacey's in Gallatin Gateway, MT when you visited? - Tim Connors
Wow, I have a lot of cool places to try. Tim, nope, never got there. - Robert Scoble
In Phoenix, my favorite is Chino Bandido, a blend of Mexican and Chinese (you must try the Jade Red Chicken). We (Tad and I) also love this Korean BBQ place in Chandler called Hodori. Worth the hour drive from our house every now and then. - Lindsay Donaghe
as my friend Larry calls it "WholePaycheck" but yeah on average people probably do look better when they don't live on a diet of bleached flour and corn syrup... - Darren Daz Cox
'GupShup' in Hindi is slang for Chit-chat, small talk and in some contexts gossip...to the average Mumbaite or Bangalorean, it conjures up an image of a cozy chat or steamy gossip over a cup of masala tea on a rainy day. I thought of exactly that when I saw 'GupShup' and had to share it :). - Kamath via twhirl
I'm glad you saw this Chris, now you really know why I called you up to tell you how Canadians are not going to bother with the iPhone nor Rogers! - Michael Forian
Maybe the iPhone can be a positive thing to consumers to bring notice and hopefully positive change to the corrupt and greedy cell phone companies like Rogers. If I lived in Canada I definitely would not be buying an iPhone. Those plans are outlandish. :( - Chris Rodgers
I'm on Fido with an iPhone, which is owned by Rogers. My current plan is decent, but without unlimited data, the iPhone 3G loses its appeal entirely. - Granteezy
I agree with Granteezy. Will stick with my Blacberry Curve until I see the BB Bold. Then I will decide. Rogers data plans don't look to appealing. - Stephen Kennedy via twhirl
Thanks for the links fotographic. This is exactly what I mean about the iPhone. I hope this creates a stir and people leave Rogers or really show their disgust with the cell plans and not buy the iPhone. - Chris Rodgers
Thanks for the info. I will hold off getting the iPhone, as much as I really would like to have one. I presently own Apple's touch, so I will console myself with the features it has and use my conventional smart phone. - Nellie Root
I am an iphone user in Canada. I was eagerly waiting for the 3g iphone - even at this moment, I am tempted to get it irrespective of how ridiculously priced the plans are but I won't because I don't like being taken for granted and also, if I got for it, I am basically vountarily lowering my pants, bending over and asking Rogers to go for it - and do the same to others... - Kamath
gee I've only been saying this since Rogers first announced they were going tobe selling the iPhone but that doesn't change the fact the Bell would have done the same thing if they were selling it. - Steven Hodson
This is a shame, Canadians are robbed with mobile phones. I hope this will make them realize it 'cause they don't seem to be aware. - Oli Kenobi
I had high hopes for the iPhone in Canada -- http://tinyurl.com/6ea2rp -- but with no unlimited data I'll pass and go for a Nokia E71 instead... - Andrew Currie
Pretty Interesting Story - and when I was in Toronto recently, I saw how "money grubbing" Rogers Communications is. Makes you wonder how much bandwidth your consuming when you download anything? Does the iPhone tell you when your approaching your limit, according to the plan your subscribed to? I hope so. - Marshall Sponder
I will buy a 3G iPhone. Most definitely. The #1 thing I do on my iPhone is participate in the Web, and having a faster one will be worth the expense. - Robert Scoble
Sorry, I won't be getting an iPhone now either. I didn't get one when they first came out and still not getting one. Maybe if someone wants to send me one to demo/test and write about I might be more inclined to consider the phone. - Paul W. Swansen
Yes unfortunately I will! But I actually might be saving $$, my AT&T plan is really high right now AND I get a 12% discount. Not sure if I'll get that when I get a new contract...I'll be going to an Apple store, not AT&T so I'm not sure they can make the same deals. - Kat
I currently have Verizon and a AT&T account. I have a Blackberry Curve as my phone right now with AT&T but I only use it for texting and email. Web surfing on the BB is not very good. I am getting the iPhone 3G to try and replace my BB for those needs as well as web surfing. The one thing I am pissed about is the text messaging is not included with the unlimited data plan so that's an extra $20 for that. Good thing I get 15% discount on my rate plan. - Andy Breeding
I took a wait and see attitude with the first release: I patiently waited a whole two days! Probably do the same this time. The link Scoble posted was about the Canadian iPhone release, though. I'd probably think about it a while if I was there. - Tom Landini
Nope not getting an iPhone. The author underestimates the power of an affordable, unlimited data plan that comes with the Instinct. Time will tell - Shey
I'll be hanging on to what I have. The iPhone didn't impress me the first time around. After what I went through with AT&T the last time, I'll never use them again. - Candace Holly
The bad thing is that I just broke my iPhone 2G bought in California (and jailbreaked) so I'll have to do something, but I don't know if I'll buy a new iPhone 3G; it's ridiculously expensive in Canada. - fbrunel
I dropped my 2g iphone a couple times and had to do the HW unlock the first time, so scratched the case a bit. I will probably end up getting the new one as I am really annoyed with the speed as well while on edge. Anyone interested in buying Ireland's 1st unlocked iPhone :) - simonpure
er, that was supposed to be, "I'm getting the cell phone hotspot (in the link)". Not to mention I get to stay on T-Mobile if I do! - Jesse Stay via twhirl
I'm considering getting an iPhone... I was 100% on-board, but Rogers' plans for it are dreadful, so I'm just a "maybe" now. Very disappointing. - Dave Fleet via twhirl
Italian plans aren't much better. Vodafone is giving 500mb x month and 900 minutes / txt messages for 99 EUROs. Don't know yet about the other carrier (TIM). :( - Simone
IPod Touch, yes. iPhone, no. I'll keep my BlackBerry for now. I had AT&T as a wireless provider once before, and I don't want to go through that again. - Harvey Simmons
best thing that ever happened to my combs was my iPhone. the faster the better :0 - Tim Aldiss
cone to think of it it's the best thing that ever happened to my 4 yr olds comms ;) - Tim Aldiss
nope... my N95 8GB still beats it in more ways than one. And, I'm lucky enough to have an "Old Blue" plan with inexpensive unlimited data on ATTWS. - thecolor
I won't even consider replacing my 1st gen iPhone until 3G is available in my area. By that time, the iPhone might be available through other vendors -- which would be a good thing for consumers. - Chris Baskind via feedalizr
Robert, you know my feelings about this one...keyboard, keyboard, keyboard. show the accessory, make it work WELL, and I'll show at&t the money. - Andrew Feinberg
Reminds me of the mantra of the Borg - Resistance is futile! Yep it is. - Roberto Bonini
I'm not getting a new iPhone because if the Gen 1 that I have works I want to save the $ boost in the actual plan if I can. - Tony
No, because I will not sign another contract with AT&T. I want my freedom from them. - Gerard Barberi via twhirl
going to party inline at the Thousand Oaks Apple store next Fri. AM. Join us! - Mark Sylvester
no I won't. And my blackberry is already ordered :-P - Marcos Marado
I've an eeePC with a mobile broadband adaptor. Works brilliantly for portable web. - David Sim
I live in Canada and I am *not* happy. Rogers is asking for a 3 yr contract and doesn't even order unilimted data for the high priced plans!!! They are taking both consumers and Apple for a royal ride eh? - Kamath via twhirl
Can't afford one. More specifically, things I want or need more keep taking priority over one. I guess it helps that I'm never more than five minutes away from an Internet-connected computer, and don't like monthly fees. - Garrett Guillotte
AT&T doesn't support 3G in my area, so I can forget it - Randy via twhirl
As soon as it works on Verizon. AT&T doesn't work in my parents house in Ohio. - Mitchell Tsai
I'm in India and it will be here probably next year for like $1000.. Forget it. - Muthu Ramadoss
I was going to until I read about Android and the barcode scanner. It may be a way off but this recession isn't going anywhere fast. And I know I can use that function everyday to search for the best deal and make whatever joint I'm in match or beat it if they want my business. Empowering. And AT&T just isn't offering a competitive plan. Plus, we have winter here and touch screens aren't charming in the winter. I can wait and will for a superior value. - Boo
Not until they allow it to be used as a modem over bluetooth, will be looking closely at upgrading from n95 to the n96 - Chris Garrett
for me it's easier. I like twitter more casue it's on twitter that I first experienced microblogging. You don't just have to "not suck" if you want me to move, you have to give me something totally different. Like.. Friendfeed? :) - Simone
I don't see that as trolling. Identi.ca was supposed to be "the competitor" for Twitter. The site itself is messy, subscriptions are weird, the tracking ability is lacking. I never cared for Pownce at all and Plurk looks like something a kid painted in kindergarten. - Candace Holly
I like it because you get the excitement of never knowing when it's gonna work - Blackopsmanners
i sorta agree, twitter usage seems to be resilient to fail-whale's mystic powers. loyal loyal base.. - Ruben Llibre
Twitter has the right user experience but the wrong internal architecture. The other sites don't even have the former and from what I've seen they don't have the latter either. Identi.ca seems to be amateur city as does Pownce. Plurk was too ugly to try out and no one I know uses Jaiku. - Dare Obasanjo
Jaiku is a pain to join, but the conversation features are nice. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Maybe it is just me, but I don't look at identi.ca to compete with Twitter. Rather it is more about what might be possible from an open source perspective when you're able to make multiple microblogging sites work together. I'm not looking for a "Twitter killer" from it, rather some real technology innovation for distributed microblogging. - David Recordon
plurk is only "ugly".. so why not use just the mobile version. - thecolor
I too enjoy the vertical layout over the horizontal, but prefer the threads in plurk and "stability" over twitters "just tweet". - thecolor
plurk is more of a game as well as a communicative social network. Twitter, feels more like a "statement made" only type of SN. - thecolor
@David Recordon +1. In fact, you truly are a visionary. +2. - Andy C
Isn't it also because FriendFeed lacks whatever it is that Twitter gets right? - blackmailismylife
I agree with David. I think its going to be more about supporting the people that are contributing to the development of a new way of doing Tweet like micro-blogging. - Chacha via twhirl
@blackmailismylife: FriendFeed isn't constrained to 140 chars. Twitter/Jaiku/Pownce/Identi.ca are. What some would see as a feature, others see as a restriction. Sometimes, you need to be constrained to 140 chars. Less is more. - Andy C
Much as I find Scoble the arse-hole of the A-Lister Blogger body, he has a point. Twitter is for all its flaws, the best out there. - Adam Wilcox
I tend to agree. I've tried pownce and din't like it in the least. Twitter is simple and easy. They just need to get their issues fixed. - Richard Miles
Seems to be the way things go. We stick with whatever "sucks less." - Jason Shultz via twhirl
People stick with Twitter because Twitter has the community and the cool API applications. - possible248
@Andy Apples and Oranges. This has been discussed to death but friendfeed doesn't fill the same shoes..er..rackspace as twitter. - Kamath via twhirl
Scoble: What an unpleasant and uncharitable comment to make about Identi.ca, a free service (that will remain free forever, something you are not guaranteed by any of the others that you mention) in early alpha testing. I was already unconvinced by the inexplicable personality cult that you seem to have generated for yourself, but now you've given me the last reason I needed to flip the bozo bit. Thankfully FriendFeed has a button I can use to do that. - Earle Martin
There is a difference between what something is and what it will be. Or what it may be. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Scoble curious what would Bush choose after leaving white house - Fred Grott
I have to agree with @earle on this one, comparing twitter and identi.ca is impossible, identi is very early stages, twitter has been around. I doubt you would compare a alpha release of a program with a final version. As far as the others sucking, how so? I find plurk to be more fun, enlightening, and easier to follow than twitter. - BCK
Identi.ca isn't ready for prime time. It doesn't even keep me logged in. Pownce is good, but no one is there. - Francine Hardaway
BCK: what do you mean we can't compare the two? That's the lamest thing I've read in weeks here. A clone of a service (and that's all that Identi.ca is so far) DAMN STRAIGHT BETTER BE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL. So far it's not. Why should I pay any of my attention time to it if it isn't going to be as good. And anyone who says that they are different is drinking on this 4th of July. At least Plurk looks different. - Robert Scoble
identi.ca was released prematurely, imho. if they waited til they got *all* twitter functionality working before opening it up, would have been a great Twitter clone. Now, it is struggling. Plurk, otoh, tried to look different with all those ajax thingamagigs but too much ajax is not really good! - Rom Feria
Rom: I totally agree with you. I'm also getting tired of trying all these Twitter clones. FriendFeed proved to me that even if something is better in a lot of respects you'll never get enough people to switch to really matter anyway. - Robert Scoble
But some of these services are a great place to talk to a very small number of people (which makes them fun in of themselves). - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Pownce is very slow and I can't sign into it. Fails to let me in. - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Jaiku? Slow and hard to comment on and I don't like the UI. - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Identi.ca has no way to look at replies, participate in conversations, not to mention no search, no direct messages (even though I hate them), no real community yet, and has lots of bugs like what Francine said. - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Plurk has a UI that 13-year-olds love, but isn't simple to track thousands of people on. - Robert Scoble
Twitter has a huge userbase. But like it or not, many users have moved on to a better Twitter and that's called FriendFeed ;) - Muthu Ramadoss
Replies, privacy, great UI, fast loading, SMS, command line interface, spam control... just for starters... this is why Twitter is still king - Cait
I think it's still because everyone is still on Twitter, and people get replies easily. None of the other networks have that as much. Twitter is still where the action is, despite all it's downtime and technical issues. People have built up quite big communities there too, so are reluctant to leave easily I think. - jjprojects
The only thing wrong with twitter is it's up time. We all like the service, and the API. If they just solved the DB problems, twitter would be near perfect. - Brian Norwood
Rom, no, they didn't release too early. Open source has different needs than closed source products, and one of them is attracting developers. Laconica now has a bunch more people working on it. - Michael C. Harris
This is actually a really good version of the product (though I haven't used the beta). And to think, I was firing up Parallels for the last month just to do the occasional Remote Desktop! :) - Mike Marusin
Yep very cool, we can us this in our BI effort at work. If only VNC would reach to remote desktop then connection to a MSSRS server would be) possible for all clients. Of course really want remote desktop client for iphone ;- - John
