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I give @cnn a lot of crap, especially about its early coverage of #iranelection but the report on Muslim world I'm watching from Christiane Amanpour is awesome journalism. It should be on in middle of the day, though, not just middle of the night here.
Susan Beebe, Randy, BJ Checket and 5 other people liked this
CNN International or CNN US?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
If the former, how do you get it?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
USA.
- Robert Scoble
oh ok
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Give it up Robert - the Iran thing is just pawn move in the bigger game - it's there to be sacrificed later for the sake of the overall Uberpower strategy #noagenda
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
I suspect the awesomeness of it is more due to Amanpour, but at least they're showing it.
- RobinDotNet
from iPhone
It should be streaming on the web so everyone can see it. Looks like some of it is: http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIAL...
- Phil Calvin
Maybe its being targeted at the Asian, European and African audiences which are well into their Sunday already?
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
I agree with both you and Nicholas's comment about the bigger game. --> "Don't mind the men behind the curtains!"
- Ahad Bokhari
Oh no. Everyone took Robert Scoble's advice and unfollowed everybody else and now there is no Twitter!
thegeniusfiles, Susan Beebe, Michelle Martinez and 59 other people liked this
Social network implosion.
- George Frink
Daily LOL :)
- Berci Mesko, MD
Ha!
- Mitchell Tsai
Ha ha! Tha'ts very funny, wish I had thought of that!
- Sandra Large
Very good
- Leigh Marriner
To Jump on the Massive Unfollowing Trend Would Be a Mistake - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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"So too do I see it better that 100 spammers fill my feed than I lose access to the innocents who remain. I am not so self-centered as to believe I know the full set of people who I can learn from and derive value. So don't look for me to start shaking my numbers down on any of the networks - even if it is getting more popular. " love this part of the post, however I want just to notice...
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- abdellah
fighting talk - I do believe you just called scoble self-centered. Still I am sure he has been called worse ;)
- Riaz Kanani
it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering
- Barak Hachamov
filter before you fellow
- abdellah
Riaz, Scoble and I get along great. I wouldn't call him self-centered.
- Louis Gray
I shared this in GR as soon as I read it. Congrats on a great post, Louis! All I can say is finally someone has said it. This trend of unfollowing is rather disturbing imho and shows how self-centered some people are, how desperate for attention others are, and how they all are rather clueless at creating valuable networks on these social tools they so much love to love.
- Vlad Bobleanta
true, but people who don't appreciate following others shouldn't do it and shld unfollow..keeps tweeting young and influential. also, the only way to get rid of spam is to unfollow/block each such perp
- Amit 'zyaada' Mittal
Louis: you will come to dislike your choice here. I used to say the same thing, but as you get more and more people who you aren't interested in you'll realize you just aren't getting anything out of the home page on Twitter anymore and, worse, you are getting spammed both on it and via DMs. That might not be a big problem for you with 12,000 friends, but as your numbers move up (and they will) you'll hit the same problems I did.
- Robert Scoble
Why is Louis' followers number growing very very slowly relative to his popularity on the net
- Mark
Robert, I never did get anything out of the homepage of Twitter anyway. :)
- Louis Gray
I think unfollowing makes sense on Twitter. On Friendfeed Lists are your friends.
- Paul Kinlan
Mark, I would say it has to do with not being put on any kind of suggested list. :)
- Louis Gray
I don't find that the Twitter website does a good job of making Twitter usable. The applications are what make it usable for me.
- Michael Owens
Unfollowing kinda makes sense. Have you ever played an RPG the second time through... you know what to do in the beginning, you aren't lost, and you know what your end goal is? Yeah. That's pretty much what we are talking about here.
- Evan Travers
I like that Evan :) RPG
- michelle harris
Yeah, the real thing here is we both are heavy users of FriendFeed. That's why I didn't care that my Twitter feed was getting worse and worse. Over the past year I've done almost all my Twitter reading here on FriendFeed. Now that I've restarted it, though, damn is it 100x more useful! And, yes, there are lots of people who are on Twitter who aren't on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
I could barely handle following 600 or so people, even with appropriate tweetdeck filters. There were too many people who just weren't adding value. I made a particular point to unfollow anyone who regarded themselves as an "SEO" or "Internet Marketing" expert.. I had made the mistake of following back anyone who followed me and slowly began to realize that they were just playing the numbers game.
- Neeraj Kumar Agrawal
abdellah: I am starting to agree with "filter before you follow", which I also believe is what Robert Scoble is doing now as he starts to follow people. Louis Gray: I don't think it is a movement to unfollow everyone, at least, not for me. I think Scoble had to start from scratch because of the number he had... for me, having a very small number in comparison, I will start unfollowing...
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- Timothy Federwitz
If you've never mass followed, and managed your connections in the way that's right for you, why would you have a reason to mass unfollow to being with. Good points Louis.
- Ken Camp
I've been curious as to the counter argument to this trend. Scoble's reaction albeit extreme is one I can empathize with, but unnecessarily severe. I appreciate the alternate perspective and grounded reasoning to your approach. While I have far fewer followers the numbers have crossed the line of unmanageable with out an automation service. Thanks for the great post and food for thought.
- Jim Goldstein
Scoble has this big 7 point list of criteria for following you on twitter, but on Friendfeed he will follow anyone who asks!
- Mark
Mark: that's because on FriendFeed I can have lists. So I can use a variety of different following strategies here. On twitter I can only follow or not.
- Robert Scoble
I think I am in the middle on this. I am not about to wholesale unfollow everyone, but the noise from news bots etc in my twitter feed is getting insane. I am still nowhere close to "getting" FF so I am still struggling a bit here too.. In fact, I have fallen right back into the trap I was in a few months ago. I think it's time for another social medai diet
- Andy Glover
Robert, you can certainly use tools like tweet deck to create groups, but . . .whatever. To me, it's just not an issue, either way. I like it when folks that I find interesting (and Robert is certainly among them!) follow me back, but it's not essential. I don't need to follow the Roberts of the world on Twitter in order to check in on what they're up to, from time to time. Unless someone has a private feed, it seems to be a non-issue.
- Kathy Fitch
Andy: on FriendFeed whenever things go nutty, just open up a new friend list and move your high quality follows into that. Leave all the other people in the old list, so you can check in once in a while.
- Robert Scoble
I don't see how anyone could follow as many people as Robert w/o losing control. Twitter would become marginalized by sheer un-manageability. Even with groups etc. there's only so much real estate on a monitor. I have groups on FriendFeed as well but honestly I spend most of my time on the home feed.
- Rick Bucich
That said, when I'm launching a new twitter presence (as I just have for an organization), it's *really, really great* when people and organizations with similar interests follow back. If nobody did, that would just be sad. Still, I'm mostly interested in the feed aspect of things, so even then, it's not really crucial to have followers.
- Kathy Fitch
What I don't get, and what has never been explained to me despite asking, is why have low "quality follows" in the first place? I know you follow me, and given that there is seldom interaction its quite apparent I'm not on the high quality follows list. If its not for ego, what's the point? Mass unfollow, filter, etc. that's entirely your decision, but why follow to the point that mass unfollow is necessary?
- jcunwired
I've always had the policy of being quick to follow and even quicker to unfollow. As soon as someone begins to bore or annoy me I just unfollow them. But on the other hand I'm glad to follow people on a whim. You never know.
- Leo Laporte
Rick--so true. In some ways, the conversations that these folks with massive followings are having around the follow/unfollow issue just is utterly irrelevant to those of us with more moderate goals and purposes.
- Kathy Fitch
Nice to see Leo Laporte being more involved on Friendfeed
- Mark
Right Leo - follow to see what's interesting, unfollow when you find out there's no value. The alternative, if I may say so, is misleading and unfair to the end user.
- jcunwired
Value in this instance is pretty subjective, and that's the point, really. What is your subject position? I'm in SMB mode, so what I'm after is quite unlike what a twit guru would be after. For me, the following/follower # some are cutting down to would be massive. If I hit those numbers, then I'd probably want to trim it back down. Robert is still about 500 over anything I'd be interested in.
- Kathy Fitch
One of the first people I looked through was Leo Laporte's following page. He has some great people who he is following.
- Robert Scoble
Take a look at Dave Winer's RSS Cloud technique - a great way to assess a following list in your newsreader before adding. http://www.scripting.com/stories...
- Leo Laporte
Why limit yourself? Someone asks to follow me, I check out their profile and tweets. If the words SEO,check out my webcam, or Arrington are there, I don't follow, If I do follow, I give them a month and then unfollow if any major douchbaggery makes its way to mine eyes.
- Paul Puri
Ah, somewhere there's an SEO person who is offering useful tweets about how beginners can use the basic Google Analytics and Webmaster tools to help them create better, more useful sites for users and potential users. That person could be good for some folks to follow.
- Kathy Fitch
On the "low quality followers/follows" point, I really needed some of those at first to help me get a feel for the ebb and flow. The trajectory of any given twitter user's account, if it's public, probably follows that basic pattern of "whoo hooo, followers!" to "what the heck?" to "now that I get how it works, how would I like it to work for me?" Seems pretty common sense. It's okay that answers to the final question vary. All as it should be.
- Kathy Fitch
I'm just generalizing, of course, but most of the people who try to follow me that have SEO in their bio have 10 tweets and they are link bait.
- Paul Puri
I shared w/ Robert and will share with you, YES I spend too much time trying to block all the FakePornSpamBot accounts. And I miss blocking many. BUT, my HOME Stream is the most amazing view of the world! With a few refreshes I can get the pulse of what's going on! Besides, even if someone is often a voyeur, there are those times they pop up and share the most insightful things! I believe I can learn from everyone! So if you're real and follow me - I'll follow you!
- Arleen Anderson
In parallel to this, I do manage a corporate account for one of the companies I consult for. Every follow and unfollow there is measured. But I learned a long time ago, that at least for me, people just want to be connected, on any network they prefer, so I try not to get in their way.
- Louis Gray
Louis: there's another aspect to this too: every follow you make signals to the world what kind of person you are. Look at my following list. You'll see geeks, VCs, journalists, entrepreneurs. Who isn't there? Not many celebrities. Not many plumbers or quilters, if any at all. That signals to the world the kind of people I want to have in my life and the kinds of information I want to hear. If you are autofollowing that opportunity to signal to the world is totally lost.
- Robert Scoble
You're doing it wrong, Robert. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Chris: always. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Oh, Paul, point well taken, of course. I'm just pointing out that they've no doubt ruined it for a handful of smart and useful SEO folks. Arleen was actually one of the first folks to follow me back, and just watching her from a distance (I guess that makes me a voyeur? <grin>) helped give me a good feel for how someone at her level of #'s worked with the system. Very educational!
- Kathy Fitch
The "signal to the world" bit makes much more sense to me on the corporate accounts I'm working with. For the Catholic parish, for instance, who to follow gets really important. I can't afford to have anything with even a whiff of inappropriateness about it in the stream. That's going to be a very small list!
- Kathy Fitch
I just think the only way you can do this wrong is if you don't continually revise your thinking and your approach. Right on to all of you for exploring this topic.
- Holly Rae
Leo, I can usually tell by the last 4 to 5 tweets whether I should follow back. But, everyone is annoying or boring sometimes (including myself) so I don't unfollow very often unless someone's stream becomes overly promotional or full of gimmicks.
- Rick Bucich
What's the benefit of following thousands of people? if you say its because you have to in order for them to DM you, how can you possibly respond to potentially thousands of DM's consistently? Once, I tried following everyone that followed me and it made my follower count jump quickly, but it made twitter less fun because I had random automated DM's from people I didn't know, and a useless stream of info from people I followed for no reason.
- Dusty Edenfield
Robert/Kathy: I think who I follow making a statement of who I am and what I'm about is less important to me since I am using it for a personal experience and my likes are wide and deep. If I was using my Twitter account as an outward facing presence for my business/organization, then it would matter much more to me... but I'm just having fun with it and like the idea of seeing lots of...
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- Timothy Federwitz
The DM thing. Sigh. Here on FF, it's totally useful. I've never had a single pointless DM. On Twitter, it's a thing to scan very occassionally, and ignore the rest of the time, seems like.
- Kathy Fitch
The thing that is being overlooked is this: The real issue is the auto-follow, NOT the total number of "following". It is what removes the vetting process. Once vetted, I'd say the more the merrier, b/c there is real value in your "with friends/following" stream, precisely b/c it is way different to search/filter it vs. regular Twitter Search. It is a huge omission/mistake that this is...
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- Alex Schleber
Since I mass unfollowed I've had SIGNIFICANTLY better interactions with the people I genuinely want to communicate with. A good % of the social media gurus who just follow in the hopes that you'll follow back unfollowed and it's seriously been like a weight lifted off my shoulders.
- Ryan Stephens
(cont'd) For this reason, I will openly admit to trying to get as many of my Twitter peeps registered into FriendFeed as possible, & I won't even care if they sub to me there or not (not required for conversation on FF anyway). It's to get them into the stream that I can then search over, and further add people into separate Friend Lists from there. Currently I'm at about 1k of 3k...
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- Alex Schleber
Also see "My comment on: 'Why You Should Start Over On Twitter With A BRAND NEW Account - Twitip' Hint: I disagree" http://post.ly/1owO This about sums it up: "..the solution to overwhelm by technology is better technology, not retrenchment..".
- Alex Schleber
Louis, I only read part of your post, but I agree as far as the types of people that are following others. Twitter has become a place more for business than meaningful conversations. Best thing to do is look at who is following you and purging those who just seem to market links to " Ways To Generate Massive Cash " through whatever they might be involved in hawking.
- Lew Newmark
@Lew funny you call this "business". I call it "racket"
- Jorge Escobar
Somewhat parenthetically, like the 19th century theoretical "corporate shield" that was supposed to shield individuals from liability, artificial demarcations between "my personal site" and "my business site" are increasingly obsolete. We are all complex, intertwined, interdependent, human-computer, systemic hybrid participants in an increasingly systematized hybrid world. The old silos...
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- michael silverton
@Louis - I think you are right. Doing something because it's a "trend" is dumb. Can you tell me what the metric is you use to measure when something breaks through to "trend" status? When "unfollow" hits Trending Topics, maybe? I didn't reboot my following list to join a trend. I did it because I really like following the people I follow...and they were getting drowned out by the people...
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- Rex Hammock
I'm going to mass unfollow everyone who ignores me :)
- jcunwired
Lets be honest, this unfollowing thing by "certain" people is nothing but a PR stunt
- Spencer
Spencer--well, of course this thing does have PR implications. After all, the big wigs are all talking about it non-stop, and then those on the next few tiers down from there are talking about the talking. Still, having PR implications and being a stunt aren't exactly the same thing. Many of these big name folks *are* established brands, which isn't something most of us can claim....
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- Kathy Fitch
@Spencer - I know my unfollowing thing was nothing but a PR stunt. As is my commenting here.
- Rex Hammock
agree. More than reasonable post, Luis..
- Marco Castellani
Bad news from the tax assessor: our home value has dropped $350,000. Good news: we'll save $5,000 on taxes. So in 70 years we'll break even.
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Well, at least you get to save some money Leo
- Roberto Villegas
So not all bad news.
- Jari Hakkarainen
Just don't go and sell that house now!
- Denis Dervisevic
Shouldn't California INCREASE their assessment so they can collect more taxes, to climb out of their financial problems? Someone has to turn it around.
- Keith Rowland
Holy crap, what was it worth before?
- Daniel Drysdale
"dropped 350,000" or "dropped to 350,000"?
- Robert
I'm in California. You can't get a one-bedroom condo for $350,000.
- Leo Laporte
I would guess that it lost $350,000 in value
- rob friedman
Are we "stimulated" yet?
- Mattb4rd
LOL! If your value dropped $350,000 you'll excuse me for not losing too much sleep over your hardship.
- Fat Geek
That reminds me. How do we get this tax assessor out to our house?
- Robert Scoble
Is that the drop in the year to date? I guess so.
- 1x29
The TWiT cottage? Nooo! The bubble is officially popped.
- Bob Evans
Isn't that the second bubble (ball) to have popped at TWiT Cottage? ;-)
- 1x29
$350,000!!!!!! My God What is is actually worth????
- Anthony Everitt
Does that mean something in the Bay Area is actually affordable now?
- Ken
I cant believe that they are lowering your value, California is turning away money?
- Christian Burns
Guys, get over the amount!
- James Nobes
LOL I wouldn't mind too much loosing $350,000 at least then I would have had it to loose :)
- TheBigBentley
Keith, California should stop spending money they don't have - that will turn it around
- Jero
Good as long as you weren't planning on moving or forced to move.
- Phillip Stewart
As long as you're not planning on moving out, I don't see why this would be bad news?
- Tom Ribbens
Now thats what I would call a Market Correction. Things are only worth what you can sell them for.
- Christian Burns
I'm getting in to real estate. Going to invest 10k in an area that is not yet developed, wait 50 years and I'll be selling condos for 100 times that.
- Myles Cloutier
Wow... I prefere indianapolis! hahaha Houses there are almost free.
- Alberto Lung
If my house dropped 350k, it would be worth -150k!
- Ed Naggiar
from iPhone
same here Ed, you know us regular guys that bought houses we can afford, we're not the problem.
- Charlieray
Wow...different tax guidelines where I'm from in Illinois. My value went down by 35% and my taxes actually went up 15%.
- Steve Council
I live in TN. My house is worth $103,000 and it's four bedroom with a little land. lol $350,000 will get you a mansion with 30 acres here
- cbmeeks
Guys, $350k is nothing in CA. Leo's house is probably worth over a mil easy. I knew my TWiT donations made a difference. lol
- cbmeeks
I'd love to even own a house at half that value...
- dann
Cbmeeks, in West Tennessee, half of that will get you a mansion!!
- Benjamin Deming
That's really good news unless you planning to sell soon. I'll buy it. how much do you want for it?
- James Glenn
Good thing I'm a renter. I could have lost $350,000! ;)
- Sarah Lane
LOL Sarah
- Bill Heslin
While it hurts, I consider it a value correction. http://tinyurl.com/luym3x
- David Eckard
Consider yourself a bit lucky Leo. I had the same thing happen but I'm still stuck in an adjustable rate mortgage. Yikes!
- Bill Heslin
I bet many homes are worth what yours dropped in value. $350,000 is a decent price for home already (for here that is).
- lelapin
I received one of those assesments too--Ouch
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
from iPhone
Take your accountant and property advisor off your christmas card list
- Matt Jarvis
Maybe things work differently there, but here tax assessed value is always lower than actual appraised value, by as much as 20%. Here's hoping it's the same for you.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We took it on the chin for over $200K too.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
$100k+ here. :(
- Chrimmus Tad
A few months ago a mortgage on a building I have was called by the bank because the value had dropped significantly below the balance due. That was a scary few days. Made me empathize a little with folks in the same boat with less avenues of recourse.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
Bummer if the previous value of the house was $350k
- Jason Tokarz
We have a "don't laugh, it's paid for" house - didn't skyrocket, didn't drop. I'd never sell, though, so it's irrelevant
- heretic_twit
It's the house value that went down...not the home value. The value of the housing market isn't of much consequence until you trade down or sell up entirely. The assessors value will go up again soon enough. In the mean time enjoy the extra cash. It's still the same home with the same family in it.
- Chris Nixon
If my house dropped $350K, it would be worth -$250K
- Michael
My house increased in price by 350million, don't know what all the fuss is about.
- Mark
If my house dropped $350K it would be worth Negative $200K
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Your primary residence isn't an investment. Without it, you'd be paying rent. Now, you're paying rent (in the form of a mortgage) at a higher rate but you wind up with some of that "rent" stored up at the end.
- Trent Hamm
Don't complain ... in 3 years it will increase by $1,000,000 and they will access taxes at ful value instead of 25%
- Stephan Romeo
Join the club bro. We are in the same spot. Not $350k thank god.
- Nathan Gibbs
well if just dropped to $350K.Reality is in the coming years it will drop further.This is unfortunate, but we are in the beginning of the restructuring of the U.S. and European economies.Be prepared to see housing values to go down further as we go through this shift
- Baba
be a good liberal and send them the $5000 anyway... think of all the people on welfare that depend on you Leo.... dont disappoint them...
- John Hillestad
That's only relevant if you bought it at a price between the higher appraisal amount and the currently lowered value or (big OR) if you refinanced or took out a second mortgage and the total mortgaged value is at anything above the currently lower value. But if you bought the home at a price lower than the new value and haven't refinanced then you're fine, you never really had the value...
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- Lon Cohen
We're not upside down yet, but nearly all our equity is gone. This isn't a mansion, or even a McMansion folks. Just a modest 3BR, 2 1/2 Bath, 2000 sq foot home in California. It's the "Northern California" part that makes it so expensive.
- Leo Laporte
You lost my house 3 times.
- Mark Chandler
I think a lot of people miss the point. While I'm sure Leo will be fine, how many people have lost all the equity in their home? How many of them had worked hard to earn that equity over 20-30 years? And how many of them were planning on that equity as a large portion of their investment income when they retire? That's the point.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
If it's anything like here in FL they are taking into account the foreclosures in your area when assessing your property values. It stinks!
- Dayngr
Time to buy if you're in the market for getting out of renting and into mortgaging.
- Emmanuel Losier
That assumes your home will NEVER go back up in value which is not the case. Statistically you should be back up in 5 - 7 years. By the time your mortgage is paid off you should be up quite a bit. The fact is that if you need a place to live it doesn't really matter what it is currently worth. One of the reasons the country is in the shape it is in is because people treated their homes...
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- Chris Johnston
Another reason the country is in the shape it's in is because mortgage companies and banks were too greedy and leveraged their money 60-70 times over while forcing people into mortgages they couldn't afford. When I was buying my house in California there were a table full of people (realtors, brokers, etc) trying to get me to buy a house that was 3x what I was comfortable buying. I had...
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- Robert Lindsley
from iPhone
Hey, Leo, I thought you wanted to pay MORE in taxes for socialist agenda items since your friend achieved the White House,
- Mike
Advertising: Behind Those Creepy Palm Pre Ads {I vote creepy..but look, I'm tweeting about the Pre} - http://adage.com/article...
Victor Ryden, Daniel Rowley, Aram Zucker-Scharff and 8 other people liked this
I thought it was creepy too. The girl just does not seem real to me.
- Helen Sventitsky
recalls a classic painting, i think. but can't identify it.
- MikeAmundsen
I don't like her at all.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from BuddyFeed
She's ugly as hell, too. And someone I would find annoying if they talked like that all the time. STFU.
- Danny Minick
Finally someone has talked about this dumb Commercial!
- TheHenry
The comments in the original articles just show that sometimes people are so into their work that they are missing the points that make their content suck.
- Kfir Pravda
Seems perfectly logical to me. "I saw someone juggling, so buy my smartphone." What's not to like?
- Mistletoe Glen
"The verdict is in: Modernista!’s surreal, creepy ads for the Palm Pre – featuring actress Tamara Hope talking in a halting stage whisper — are driving everyone crazy. And not in a good way." [http://ff.im/68yg8]
- MikeAmundsen
Its all Subliminal Messaging. In the background the ad is saying "iPhone bad, Palm Pre good." LoL
- Bryan Lee
creepy
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
Checking out appsfire (Thanx! @louisgray) #fb Here's what's on my iPhone: http://appsfire.com/selecti... What's on yours?
Vinay | विनय, Donald Townsend, Alan Morris and 9 other people liked this
There needs to be some form of feedback/review/recommendation system implemented for me to really want to use it. The direct app links are nice, but the social aspect is a bit lacking IMHO... As long as I get your link I can look at your apps, but how do I discover new ones?
- Walt Ruppar
Hi Walt, do you mean that we should add a comment form in the widget itself? the widget sharing is supposed to allow you to discover apps you don t have from your friends. Is that what you have in mind?
- Ouriel Ohayon
It might be nice if I was able to put some comments in on each app so that people could see why I like an app before just putting it on their phone. Maybe pull I'm the exisiting iTunes comments and also allow for your own? So when I click an app icon, I get a little field that displays next to the iPhone graphic with comments and that really cool short link you made to iTunes.
- Walt Ruppar
from iPhone
Oh and on the topic of discovering apps... How? If someone sends me thier appsfire link I can go look, but how do I discover new apps from social friends I don't even know? Maybe something minimally like: Heres the top 25 apps people have shared with appsfire (with links to the app and the user widget). Thanks again for responding to my feedback/comment!
- Walt Ruppar
from iPhone
I thought a bit more about my comments and perhaps it is a direction you don't even want to go in... I created a Friendfeed room for sharing @appsfire links and screen-shots of iPhone screen layouts: http://friendfeed.com/iphone-... ... EnJ0Y!
- Walt Ruppar
Myrna to Myrna's feed, Iranian Embassy in Friendfeed, The Iranian Green Wave, Iran Election Watch, The Solidarity Project, Minds on FF
Worldwide day of Solidarity with the People of Iran. July 30th - The Iranian Solidarity Project: The Iranian Solidarity Project is calling for a worldwide day of mourning and solidarity on July 30th, the 40th day of Neda Agha Soltan's passing. Please do what and your community can to honor this woman and to show solidarity with those in Iran on... - http://theiraniansolidaritypro...
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Time: July 30, 2009 all day Location: In villages,cities, and towns worldwide! Event Type: day, of, action Organized By: The Iranian Solidarity Project
- Myrna
from Bookmarklet
Please pass this on and do what you can, large or small to honor Neda's life.
- Joe
Take and post pictures of your events to show your support.
- Joe
It can be as simple as lighting a candle and taking a moment to honor Neda and show solidarity with those in Iran.
- Joe
Please do your part to make this a global effort.
- Joe
and tell your friends. :)
- Joe
It IS a shame that people would choose to mock this woman's death then to honor her passing. Please show your respect for Neda on the 30th.
- Joe
The American Solidarity Project is calling for a worldwide day of mourning and solidarity on July 30th, the 40th day of California's economy passing. Please do what and your community can to honor this beautiful bankrupt state and to show solidarity with those suffering there on the 30th. Please pass this along and translate if necessary.
- دکتریـن
So what will you do on July 30 to support the people on Iran? It can be as simple as lighting a candle or saying a prayer.
- Myrna
Those are good ideas, Myrna. And maybe you should read this blog http://israelicrimes.blogspot.com/ and think if you are somehow responsible for these crimes since they send your tax money to Israel.
- دکتریـن
My point is when you have a criminal government and lots of domestic problems, you better pay attention to those than something you don't know much about it. For instance, President Ahmadinejad never denied the Holocaust. That's another lie your media told you. This is what he says http://www.youtube.com/watch... . Your knowledge my friend about Iran is based on these lies.
- دکتریـن
My comments are completely relevant to this post and I want not only you but also your friends read them. But If you don't believe in freedom of speech, that's another story. Obama never accepts to have an interview with Iranian journalists too.
- دکتریـن
Why did you delete your comments, Myrna?
- Fayaz
Because I blocked دکترین and they didn't make sense if his comments are not here. I suggested that if he wants to have a conversation about another subject than Solidarity for Iranian people on July 30 to message me personally. I am open to discussing other topics but U.S sending money to Israel has nothing to do with the topic here. He refused to comply with my wishes.
- Myrna
This is a positive post with positive and loving energy.
- Myrna
For those who are not familiar with the circumstances of her death : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch... Or you can watch this clip. Warning: It is graphic.
- Joe
Keep spreading this call to action!
- Joe
Please post on facebook and twitter (ask people to RT!)
- Joe
Thank you for all your votes of support!
- Joe
I am looking for multi lingual folks to help us translate and pass on this msg, if you can help, let us know.
- Joe
A Thank you to those who are translating this msg!!!!
- Joe
Are you a Zionist, Myrna?
- Fayaz
Are you a Jewsih Zionist, Myrna?
- Fayaz
Fayaz, are the Iranians who support this and honor Neda zionists too?
- Joe
Now I am ignoring you too Fayaz. The next step is blocking you.
- Joe
Our records show Myrna is a Zionist.
- Fayaz
LOOOOL Joe, you're getting pulled in. Read this: http://ff.im/5QAgX We already see that Fayaz is filled with fear. I don't even know if its a he or she and the question is am I a Jewish zionist. I should ask if he's an ahmedinijad zionist. I don't even think he understands what he's asking me. It's total brainwashing
- Myrna
I am still looking to translate this msg in Japanese. Let us know if you can assist.
- Joe
Please post photos of your events in the solidarity project, Iranian Embassy, and The Iranian Green Wave on FF.
- Joe
Still looking for a Japanese translation of this msg.
- Joe
Looking for a German speaker to translate this msg as well.
- Joe
One way to participate is "the silent wave" http://silentwave.info/
- Joe
We stand with people all over the world to honor those who have lost their lives.
- Joe
Today is the day!
- Joe
and they're getting arrested http://friendfeed.com/chaz2b...
- chaz2b
and they are making a stand.
- Joe
The silent wave is asking people to take two minutes of silence at 11:00 am and/or 6:00 pm today.
- Joe
Thanks to all those around the world who have already participated today.
- Joe
Holden <3
- Myrna
Good for you Holden. :)
- Joe
Thank you to all who are participating on the East Coast right now.
- Joe
I want to thank my friends and all those on the West Coast for showing their support. Thank you.
- Joe
Twitter follower numbers now meaningless? http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009...
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Now meaningless? Seems like they've been meaningless for a while.
- Bill Kinney
Bill yes
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
When did the number of Twitter followers mean anything?
- Asgeir
Auto Follow & the Follow Me Follow You Back etiquette are the main sources of the problem. But no doubt the "size matters" movement will remain on twitter and few will make as bold a move as John Reese and Mike Filsaime (see http://stopautofollow.com for info) recently. Lets just hope the msg spreads - auto following will break your twitter experience.
- imrat
Have been guilty of using autofollow but not for my account though. It is just necessary since there are those out there who believe that # of followers = authority.
- Likke
Like it or not, it's still impressive to most people on Twitter. Only the most experienced get that it's at least misleading. Scoble, if it's so meaningless, why did you go out of your way to announce when you were approaching 100,000 followers? There's some meaning number of followers, just not as much as it seems on the surface.
- Chris Spizzirri
The bots do alter the numbers. More important then follower numbers is the more people who follow you that engage in meaningful conversation.
- Rob Cairns
I've been using Twitter for over a year and have found 2 things hold true. 1) The same people who say follower numbers mean nothing to them, waste half their life on fridays with that stupid #followfriday crap. 2) Twitter numbers DO impress most Twitter users as they are seen as a measure of influence and reach. I don't even know how many subscribers I have on FriendFeed; because it's no big deal here. It's one of many reasons why I prefer FriendFeed.
- Jim Connolly
Just checked and I have one tenth the number of subscribers here, that I have followers on Twitter. This place is still more valuable to me.
- Jim Connolly
One can only imagine the sales pitch: "With more than 10,000 Twitter followers, JimSmith is a recognized social media guru. Let Jim Smith help your organization win with social media". Recently posted a thought about Twitter Ratios as a measure of value "The Twitter Ratio: Listening, Telling or Dialogue?" a wordy thought on defining your followers. http://tinyurl.com/lzv6fm
- jeff hammond
They are quite meaningless consider a good half your followers couldn't care less what you say and just want you to reciprocate. I have found this holds true very much. To Twitter, having more or less followers than someone is how you are judged and how many are set on being goal-driven to reach a certain amount of followers. And now agreeing with Jim, here on FF the number of subscribers you have doesn't really matter to most users. It is the interactions that count.
- Amir
I agree with Jim. I think people will more likely follow someone for has a "good" amount of followers. I also agree with him about Friendfeed. It is just much better content here.
- TheHenry
Posterous adds Google Maps integration – the service now automatically retrieves the geolocation information in your photos and embeds Google Maps below the photo. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Robert Scoble: Are you still going to use http://ourdoings.com/ after this update?
- Mike Bracco
you know whats interesting...i can disable comments on this post...I wonder if thats because its in a couple of the rooms i admin
- Zee.
That is pretty sweet.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Oh snap, Scobleizer has a choice now. I might actually have to be nice to him. :-) But seriously, congrats Garry and the rest of the Posterous team on a great feature.
- Bruce Lewis
If anyone auto-posts from Posterous to FF and elsewhere I would love to know if the google map is included int the post - post links to examples here.
- Mike Bracco
It's a shame really, I like to edit and add filters to my iPhone pics rather than post raw with naff lighting. Also, does anyone know if this is by default? Because I don't want my home location being broadcast when posting pics from around the house :-\
- CannonGod
Jake: it should be off by default. you can set what occurs when you post a picture by going to your settings page.
- Mike Bracco
from BuddyFeed
Mike: I can't say I can see where abouts :-S As an idea, could one set a 'safe zone' around your house so that all GeoTags from their are not published, but otherwise they are? That would be neat :)
- CannonGod
Jake, great minds think alike. I implemented that feature months ago: http://ourdoings.com/2009-02
- Bruce Lewis
I'm not sure I understand why someone would want their Posterous photos to be geo-tagged. How does that feature add to the entertainment value of a particular piece of content? Obviously it's informative, but, even with that, I still don't see why someone would want to have maps accompanying all the photos on their blog. Just curious ;-)
- Brad Williamson
Brad: I hear you. To your point, the Google Map doesn't appear below the photo UNTIL you click the location link below the photo to have it expand out.
- Mike Bracco
from BuddyFeed
Is this more for mobile phones?
- Outsanity
Brad is right, the link is quite discreet. Regards necessity, I know an Archaeology friend who wanted this feature as he was keeping a travelling journal. Personally I like the option, though most of what I post doesn't need this extra information - generally I'll be telling people about the place I took the photo as part of the post. I rarely post photos with no accompanying text to make sense of them :-p
- CannonGod
Armored truck drops more than $300,000 - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
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Two good Samaritans returned more than $275,000 that tumbled out of an improperly secured armored truck in Syracuse, New York, last week. But some not-so-good Samaritans seem to have walked away with another $60,000 that fell onto the street.
- Intense News
Brad Williamson to Brad's feed, Media News and Analysis, Music Business, TheNextWeb Forum, building43
Radiohead's manager starts new profit sharing record company that encourages a digital-first philosophy - http://network.nationalpost.com/np...
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"Nettwerk Music has teamed up with Radiohead's manager Brian Message to launch Polyphonic, a new record label. The twist? Polyphonic will front money to the artists they sign so the bands can start their own company, rather than signing to a big label. In turn, they split revenues with the signees, in a profit sharing model which would see the artists get at least 50% of all profits. The artists will keep all copyright, and Polyphonic is pushing a digital-first philosophy. Nodding to the Radiohead connection, the company has also stated that In Rainbows style pay what you like models are not out of the question."
- Brad Williamson
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IPhone 3GS owners bemoan its battery life - Los Angeles Times - http://www.latimes.com/busines...
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"The new, high-octane iPhone 3GS is loaded with features that could light up your life -- but its battery isn't one of them. Buyers are finding that the device, introduced two weeks ago, has trouble making it through a workday without a rest stop at the electrical outlet. It's proving to be something of an Achilles' heel on Apple Inc.'s flagship device, more than 1 million of which were sold in the first weekend. Even the company suggests on its website that users disable some of the phone's most vaunted features, including the faster 3G network itself, to keep it from shutting down during the day. Industry officials and outside experts sketched a complex picture of the technical and bureaucratic limits that might explain why, after two years and three generations of the device, the newest iPhone has less stamina than the first."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"Despite its distinctive name, the iPhone is less a telephone than a high-performance pocket computer with telephony among its many functions. Besides using its built-in video recorder, global positioning system and e-mail capability, customers can now download more than 50,000 "apps" -- iPhone programs developed by third parties. Many of those applications, such as video games, make...
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- RAPatton
Kind of like a Ferrari with a 5 gallon gas tank.
- Brian Sullivan
I don't charge my 1st gen, iPhone more than every 2 days. Kind of like a VW bug (with a really great stereo).
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Hmmmmmmmmm not too bad for me....
- Live4Emma (L4S)
from iPhone
Quite the contrary for me. I've owned all three iPhones so far, and the 3GS is the first one that I have finally been able to not bother charging overnight. I got through a decent day of normal usage yesterday, a little game playing, lots of Twitter, some email, browsing, checking Google Maps for traffic once. Didn't charge it last night. Had about 2/3 of battery this morning, and got down to about 1/3, maybe 1/4, by tonight. I'm really happy with it.
- David Chartier
If you take lots of videos and photos then the battery goes down quickly.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
They make a third party solution for that. Come armed with a Mophie battery case and you're set. http://www.mophie.com/SearchR... "It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness."
- Christopher Harley
Rumor: Windows 7 to be sold on USB drives - Ars Technica - http://arstechnica.com/microso...
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CNET quotes an undisclosed source in its speculative report: "Microsoft is considering offering Windows 7 on a thumb drive to allow netbook owners to more easily upgrade their machines." Microsoft confirmed in February that all editions of Windows 7 would run on netbooks but never disclosed how those who already own the low-end computers could get the operating system on their system. The currently only known solution, downloading a copy and putting the installation on a USB drive, isn't a process many netbook users would be happy to do. If the USB drive option is skipped, most will likely have a friend or a tech support guy get the job done for them.
- Leo Laporte
I wonder if Microsoft will provide a simple utility to copy the windows 7 install DVD to a thumb drive. I installed the RC on my netbook using DISKPART to format a thumb drive and copy the DVD to the thumb drive, etc, but as you say Leo, that's a bit geeky for the average user. Of course, if your only computer is a netbook, having a utility from Microsoft won't be of much help.
- Michael
It surprised me, actually, how complicated it was to get a boot sector onto a flash drive compared to burning the windows 7 beta onto a disk. You would think someone would have written a simpler utility for that by now, but I guess you really don't need that many bootable flash drives.
- Craig B.
D.C. Contractor Fired for Posts on Twitter - just another reason to watch what you're saying. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
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(persiankiwi) on Twitter [This is BAD! Her tweets start 4 hrs ago and stop at 2 hrs ago.] - http://twitter.com/persiankiwi
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4 hrs ago: 6PM Iran Time: "just in from Baharestan Sq - situation today is terrible - they beat the ppls like animals - #Iranelection RT RT RT. I see many ppl with broken arms/legs/heads - blood everywhere - pepper gas like war. they were waiting for us - they all have guns and riot uniforms - it was like a mouse trap - ppl being shot like animals. saw 7/8 militia beating one woman with baton on ground - she had no defense nothing - #Iranelection sure that she is dead. so many ppl arrested - young & old - they take ppl away - #Iranelection - we lose our group. ppl run into alleys and militia standing there waiting - from 2 sides they attack ppl in middle of alleys. all shops was closed - nowhere to go - they follow ppls with helicopters - smoke and fire is everywhere. phone line was cut and we lost internet - #Iranelection - getting more difficult to log into net. rumour they are tracking high use of phone lines to find internet users - must move from here now. reports of street...
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- Myrna
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from:http://aricmayer.blogspot.com/2009... "nicole said... I have been following Persiankiwi since last week, and I was thinking the same thing this morning. I think about this person(s) and what he/she/they are going through as I sit at my desk and ignore my work to follow the story. However, persiankiwi dropped off the grid a couple times last week and scared me, only to resurface with more hope and inspiration. I'm crossing my fingers that we hear more..."
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I also had not seen anything from @oxfordgirl in some time today, and just saw a couple tweets come through from her.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yes, I saw them today also. We get the real 'nitty gritty' from these brave souls. I'd like to meet them some day.
- Myrna
I had been following @persiankiwi as well. I wish there was a way to more easily follow this post without using the term "Like."
- tollie williams
I went through the same feeling about not wanting to click like and then someone said, here it means support or RT. You RT things on twitter that are important so just think of retweet when you click like.
- Myrna
:|
- Shandiz
As I reminded some folks on twitter. Twitter accounts are disposable. People are not. We can hope and pray that both @Change_for_Iran and @PersianKiwi have laid low for a bit, gotten some new, as yet unknown gear (IP addresses, phones, proxies, etc etc) and likely some new accounts on twitter.) After rereading PK's last handful of tweets - I'm certain if there is anything left to their group, they had to scrounge new net connections, and would have ditched the account. (for now).
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, did you see Jon Stewart tonight with Reza Aslan? If not tomorrow it will be posted.
- Myrna
I can proudly say that I've never owned a TV! (well, for 1 month I had a 9" b&w) - So I watch the next day :( I keep jumping up and down that I would watch at showtime if they would just broadcast it on the web already! I can also say that my TV news comes from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I can proudly say that I own a TV...lol
- Myrna
Some dude just yelled my full name from his car as he drove past. That was weird.
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He just wanted to make sure you knew it was you he was calling out to!
- Johnny Worthington
lol, surreal! :)
- Amy
probably an insane ex-teacher who's taking registration to the streets, your now absent from his school of life
- russtbarnacle
oh that's weird, somebody yelled "Veronica Belmot" at me today too.
- Mauricio
that *is* weird!
- Veronica
It happened to you too?
- Ben Parr
Did he have a Mr. Microphone?
- Robert Hafer
What are you doing outside? You should be playing the Sims 3
- Shannon
I'm in LA on a mini-vacation! Otherwise I'd be safe indoors with my Sims family.
- Veronica
eek, last time that happened to me (1989) it was accompanied by gunfire. :|
- Joe Silence
thats creepie will u b my friend
- reilly shine
Fame....
- Lisa zahara Hopkins
♪Veronica Belmont, Veronica Belmont♪
- tobansch
Now would it be more or less creepy if it was sung to Elvis Costello's Veronica?
- Kevin Marks
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Have to disagree. Perhaps in the short term this is awesome, but in two years? I don't think it'll matter if you even have a Facebook profile or not, let alone one with a name.
- Brandon Mendelson
Game changers never last two years. A game changer is simply a pivotal moment in the evolution of the game. I agree with Gary still.
- Ken Camp
Agree Ken. Vanity URLS are important, just as learning how to brand yourself and play up your brand is.
- Sheryl
game changers often last more than a few years. The change only last a few moments though. I could go into detail about game changers that are still around, and still dictating how the game is now played.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Branding, in its very essence, cannot be something short term, for what it's worth.
- Brandon Mendelson
Good point Rob. The change itself is ephemeral, but the effects are long term and the mechanics can endure for a very long time.
- Ken Camp
Brandon - I agree that branding is long term. Changing it, is not in my view. Not game changers anyway. Long term changes though, are like corporate culture and only socialized into behavior over time.
- Ken Camp
thanks Ken. And Brandon, I think you're likely right about the FB profile not mattering in a couple years. Several things are afoot that are going to change their level of relative importance. This is a late effort on Facebook's part to get their users recognized "out there" -and will hopefully get more users to accept less privacy. It seems like they should have done both some time ago, and not let Google beat them to the punch with the public profiles.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Facebook Vanity URLS are not what you think - http://chrissaad.wordpress.com/2009...
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AMD grabs "impressive" market share from Intel in Q1 - http://blogs.zdnet.com/Foremsk...
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About the GG blowup. It's the first one I've ever seen. Do free review units predispose you to liking the product, sure it has to. Would Leo have said he got a free review unit if given a chance, seems pretty likely. Did Mike act like a mensch when he challenged Leo? Not even close. Has Mike ever gotten free access to technology to review it? Sure.
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What would I like to see happen here? I think Mike should do something else on Saturday afternoons and they should go on having the GG on Leo's network. I don't think he adds a thing to the show, other than bringing his issues to it, and who cares. The point of the show is to kibitz about tech stuff, in a self-important way. That's what's entertaining about it. There's no Edward R Murrow's here, no high minded ethics, and Arrington is the last guy to sling that particular kind of mud. And this "what are you going to do about it" schtick, which he used on me too this week, is particularly offensive. Nothing. No one's going to fight with you Mike.
- Dave Winer
...as an outsider looking in on this, what was so out-of-line about Arrington asking the simple question: "Did you pay for your Pre?" Clearly there's more to it than just that simple yes/no question, right?
- .LAG liked that
is a mensch good or bad?
- David Lloyd
dave, leo would have bought one if he could... that's why he got the review unit... so he could review it since he couldn't go out and buy one like he always does - and he also said that he would go out and buy one no matter what months ago ...
- Chris Heath
mark mensch is good ... google is also your friend
- Chris Heath
mensch is good. it's yiddish for "human being."
- Dave Winer
Thanks
- David Lloyd
I would like for the gg to continue, but leo doesn't need the type of drama that it brings and it will probably have to find a new home - plus steve and mike are probably a package deal, no?
- Chris Heath
Mike commandeers this show all the time. I've asked Scoble many times why he falls for it. Mike is a lawyer and he knows how to manipulate people to get them to pop their stack. I imagine Leo has listened to enough of it, and he popped his stack today. I always fast-forward over Arrington's cross-examinations.
- Dave Winer
On the other hand, this is all link-bait, for sure. It's Saturday, and that apology he just posted is going to get tons of traffic and comments. So his pretense at being high-minded is pretty damned transparent. It would be nice to see him take the ads off that page, if he really is sincere, esp since the topic of this blowup was conflicts of interest.
- Dave Winer
It was not a "free" review unit. It has to go back in 7 days. Even if it didn't, I would return it. Calling a review unit a "free Pre" is a very sneaky way of implying malfeasance. I knew it. Mike knew it. I called him on it. I'm sorry I lost my temper, but Mike knew exactly what he was doing.
- Leo Laporte
Dave... ah, thanks, that says a lot "Mike is a lawyer..." So it was a leading question, layered with other meanings. makes sense now.
- .LAG liked that
Leo he was baiting you. True. And you took it. ALso true. :-)
- Dave Winer
And Leo you should see the shit he dropped on me this week, everywhere, incredibly foul language, incredibly insulting. And totally transparent.
- Dave Winer
I like that Leo stood up to him, knocked Arrington down a notch
- David Lloyd
Yeah I should have known better. He got to me, damn it.
- Leo Laporte
Apologies from Arrington are as rare as Gold Pressed Latinum
- David Lloyd
Leo: my condolences, I'd be banging my head off the wall for giving him that reaction. I very much doubt anyone thinks any less of you though. Can't be a saint 24/7 :)
- Ross Duggan
Leo call me if you want to talk. I'll DM you my number.
- Dave Winer
Take pleasure in the fact that the tech world immediatley jumped to your defence Leo, you can't pay for that kind of public relations
- David Lloyd
leo: you where right to say that to him
- Joe Azzara
Arrington has and always will be an asshole. I don't read his blog and certainly won't start now. He has made some bad moves in the past, but this one might be an endgame. There is absolutely no reason to bait like that when someone is trying to provide a review. Reviews are never completely unbiased, but Leo always discloses and provides the most unbiased reviews that a sensible human can.
- Bob Blunk
Respect to leo. Questioning his integrity like that solely for the theater of it is cheap.
- dthree
This is starting to get dicey.
- Ross Duggan
"Asking leading questions outside of the courtroom is not just rude... it's weird." http://www.trialtheater.com/article...
- Karim
Leo has always been a yes man. Yes, the Pre is cool. Yes, I love me my Pre, Epic Pre. Did I mention I got it free? I'm with Arrington on this one. But now I am watching Leo review it live on his show, so I am the one that got owned.
- Shannon
Please tell me this is being recorded. Some of us have things to do in realtime. Like paint our house.
- Christian Burns
Leo, the other day on net@nite you even explained that mike just does this to get reactions. Sorry you fell for it. You just can't take him seriously.
- Christian Burns
Leo's anger at Mike finally bubbled over. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Mike's passive-aggressive tone and subtle implication of bias were only the latest in a series of attempts on Mike's part to get Leo's goat. Unfortunately for Mike up to now, Leo has always risen above that. And despite the fact that Leo's reaction itself was over-the-top, I completely understand why he did it and I don't fault him at all. One can only maintain one's composure around Mike for so long.
- Eric Geller
The two parts of the show are here: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/TheGill...
- Jack
I'm legitimately curious: how has Mike Arrington become THE goto guy for the mainstream media when it comes to tech? You'd think Charlie Rose would know better...
- Carver Jameson
Re the blow-up, I think Mike makes a good point. Pre-Reviews are still a conflict of interest, even if returned. But when Leo shows the review first hand on a video, there's little argument? If video it might be a mute point.
- Jonathan Langdale
Short of listening to two (unknown-length but) long, tedious, podcasts (the target urls of which were given by [corrected: Jack] first in the 32nd comment above) of what sounds to me like verbal diarrhea, perhaps someone in the know would be so kind as to indicate the approximate time from the start of either where said Gilmor Gang-blow-up occurred?
- ianf ⌘
For the record: here's the video of the relevant part, all 90 seconds of it: <http://www.youtube.com/watch...>
- ianf ⌘
Leo admitted right from the start even before he got the unit that it was a free trial/demo unit. While I agree with consumer reports attitude that they buy everything they review it's really not practical for an independent journalist to do that. As long as the person admits to getting the unit as a 'freebie/demo/loaner' I have no problems with them doing a review. The reader/listener...
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- Lillian Banchik
Seems like something was brewing there and not just the one thing brought it on. Don't beat yourself up Leo; happens to the best of them.
- Jim Gablick
"Something was brewing there already" - that's my impression as well. In fact, Leo Laporte's blowing off his top like that in response to an impertinent question from a fellow participant (a question which could simply been answered with "yes, do you see any other outlet to get it from in advance than from Palm direct," and/or "so?") was downright irresponsible and contemptuous of his...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf, i think you meant to say "Jack" linked to the "long, tedious podcasts" and not Karim. ;-) *i* linked to a page on leading questions (e.g. "So when did you stop taking bribes from Palm?") as they relate to courtroom drama :-D
- Karim
Yeah, you're right, corrected it now. But aren't leading questions forbidden, or at least frowned upon and "objected to," in the American court system – or maybe only in the "Law & Order" TV series? ;-))
- ianf ⌘
IANAL but i think leading questions are allowed if the witness is hostile (e.g. during cross-examination). in real life, i don't know if you would consider "Hold on -- hold on -- did you PAY for the Pre?" to be a leading question, or whether Leo's lawyer would say, "Objection, Your Honor, the question is argumentative." pretty sure "What are you gonna do about it?" is argumentative, though ;-)
- Karim
That wasn't a leading question, merely an idiot and impertinent one, esp. coming from another technews-leech as is Arrington. Why he asked it is beyond me, but, apparently, IT MADE A HELLUVA LOT OF SENSE AT THE TIME! Could he have bet someone that he can make Laporte lose his cool on camera?
- ianf ⌘
I made a podcast commenting my thoughts and lessons learned from both Part 1 And 2 of that show: http://www.mevio.com/episode...
- michaelwmoss
Thousands of Web sites stung by mass hacking attack - http://www.computerworld.com/action...
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As many as 40,000 Web sites have been hacked to redirect unwitting victims to another Web site that tries to infect PCs with malicious software, according to security vendor Websense. The affected sites have been hacked to host JavaScript code that directs people to a fake Google Analytics Web site, which provides data for Web site owners on a site's usage, then to another bad site, said Carl Leonard, threat research manager for Websense. Those Web sites have likely been hacked via a SQL injection attack, in which improperly configured Web applications accept malicious data and get hacked, Leonard said.
- Leo Laporte
scary !
- ashley rowell
Why cant we get a simple, peaceful presence on the net? Why do people always have to cause havoc?
- Vedran Agovic
bbc.co.uk - IKEA to take over GM (via http://friendfeed.com/mizt...)
Could an open Sony beat Apple? - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
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Being open doesn't guarantee that a community or ecosystem will sprout up around a product. A company with Sony's coffers could do a lot more to make its devices and content accessible to a broad range of developers who would seed the market and make it more money.
- Shevonne
"Open" has been reduced to a buzzword nowadays with little true meaning. Sony's approach to its business has always been maddeningly schizophrenic. Their culture is not one that could defeat the coordinated approach of Apple, open tech or not.
- LANjackal
Yawn. Why does Mike Arrington annoy me so? Listening to Gillmor Gang. quit apologizing, @gapingvoid
Mark Dykeman, Bonnie Foster, Randy and 8 other people liked this
hah!
- Robert Scoble
I think i'll come back for the aftershow. that's where the good stuff happens anyway
- Karoli
yeah, the aftershow was quite hot today
- Chris Heath
great entertainment !
- Kevin O'Halloran
On the one hand, I'm glad they're passionate & emotional. On the other, I wish they'd cut the diva-style tiffs
- Steven Cains
I've long since stopped bothering to listen when he is on. He generally trips the d-bag circuit breaker within a few minutes anyway. Life is too short to spend your precious time with him.
- Dave Slusher
My discomfort with Arrington's personal style is tempered by the fact that he's a damn fine, hard working publisher.
- Chris Baskind
Ike Turner was a damn fine guitar player. Talent in one arena doesn't give you a pass on being a dick.
- Dave Slusher
++Dave
- Michael W. May
separate the person from the work. just because they may produce great works in whatever field they are in does not merit or let one become an overall douche a-hole.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
++Dave
- Karim
Clayton 'i-house' is a giant leap from the trailer park - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
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"Clayton Homes plans to price the "i-house" at $100 to $130 a square foot, depending on amenities and add-ons, such as additional bedrooms. A stick-built house with similar features could range from $200 to $300 a square foot to start, said Chris Nicely, Clayton marketing vice president. The key cost difference is from the savings Clayton achieves by building homes in volume in green standardized factories with very little waste. Clayton has four plants in Oregon, Tennessee, California and New Mexico geared up for "i-house" production."
- Bill Sodeman
from Bookmarklet
With the vast loads of construction waste created in traditional home building; any idea to cut down on it and housing costs sits well with me!
- Randy
Make: Online : A Twitter-enabled toilet - http://blog.makezine.com/archive...
Mert Akbulut, John kowal, ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0, and 24 other people liked this
ROFL
- TheHenry
Lordy be I thought slot machines in the toilets in Las Vegas was bad enough :)
- Anne Bain
Does it twitter the weight of the "load" at each flush?
- Steve de Mena
A Restart a Day Keeps iPhone Memory Headaches At Bay | Just Another iPhone Blog - http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpre...
Roney Smith, Philip Lei, RyanEs and 6 other people liked this
Paul - that's probably how things will go for me too. The first step form me was admitting the need, now I'll make it a habit, but I'm sure I'll miss / forget some days ...
- Patrick Jordan
No surprises here... I had to restart my old Windows Mobile phone once or twice a day. I usually power off my iPhone before I enter sleep mode.
- Bill Sodeman
@thegothamgal gay marriage and legalization of marijuana +++ we're evolving as a society.
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