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Wow. Google Dashboard gives info on what it has stored for our accounts across 20+ of its products. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...

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Mary Carmen

Quote from conversation: "There is nothing wrong with having a type." "If your type tends be be broken and crazy, there's something wrong."

October 21 - Comment - Like - Share

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AMEN! - josh neff, Fun Dip of FF

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WORD! - Kendra K

Uh oh. - Derrick

I am just as God made me - RAPatton

Sadly, that seems to be my type. - cecily

FTR: I said the second sentence. - Mary Carmen

Then you are indeed wise, Mary Carmen. - Pete

Cecily, that has been my type in the past, but I'm done with that. No more crazy, no more drama for this boy! - josh neff, Fun Dip of FF

Wise. Learned my lesson. Fooled one too many times. These are really all the same thing. - Mary Carmen

Yeah. Wisdom is experience that sticks :) - Pete

Crazy people are fun for a few nights but bad for a full life. - ♫Geek in the 410♫

As I get older my definition of "acceptable crazy" is getting more and more narrow. Right now it seems to be whether or not the dude will go to Sonic at three am in PJs. Either I'm boring as fuck, or my tolerance/patience for the drama llama is at an all time low. I like to think it is the latter. - Mary Carmen

Depends on what you were doing between 2 and 3 am. - ♫Geek in the 410♫

Oh, Mo, you know what I was doing. It is a refueling run to Sonic. ;-) - Mary Carmen

No, i will not leave the house to go to Sonic at 3am. - DJF

allergic to crazy, drama, and related guises ----> - Ayşe E.

*fistbumps* Ayse - Mary Carmen

Crazy attracts crazy, or at least it has in my case. That's why I'm working on de-crazying myself. - cecily

+100 MC. - holly

*fistbumps MC* - Ayşe E.

There are many shades of crazy. Hell, I'm sure I can use it to describe me, but when it is hurtful, destructive, out of control and takes a lot of effort (emotional and physical) to deal with....that is when its a problem. I am all about supporting and helping someone work through it, but they HAVE TO BE WORKING THROUGH IT. Im not down with sticking it out with peeps who enjoy the havoc they reek upon themselves and/or others. I apologize if I offend, but, it is what it is. And it doesn't work for me. - Mary Carmen

Akiva Moskovitz

Another awesome thing about being the Mac user in a family of Windows users: I am no longer tech support.

October 1 from BuddyFeed - Comment - Like - Share

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:| - Rochelle

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That didn't stop my family. :( - Spidra Webster

Then they'll just go get macs - Glenn Slaven

Nah, not these people. They're hardcore. - Akiva Moskovitz

For the record, I do help where I can but I don't have the intricate knowledge of Vista and Windows 7 required for some of the problems encountered. - Akiva Moskovitz

lol - Anna Haro

thanks to my Dad .. I got into Computing in the early 90's ... thanks to a buddy at the firehall .. I use Apple Products .. MBP and a IPhone ... Love it ... - johnpiercy

Best reason I've heard yet. - Rodfather

I too am all Mac but they still ask PC questions. Bleh. - Danny Minick

But it's like being the only Jew in my family of Catholics. - Christopher Harley from iPhone

Mac is infiltrating my home. Slowly. - Josh Haley

Thomas Hawk

Buffalo Bill and the Indians on the Beach, Plate 180

October 1 from Flickr - Comment - Like - Share

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Derek Markham

Posterous Tip: Turn Posterous tags into autoposted Twitter #hashtags - http://blog.posterous.com/postero...

September 24 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Robert Scoble

Real time Scoble baby news (I will post small stuff here, over next 24 hours as our new baby comes to keep from spamming Twitter):

September 19 - Comment - Like - Share

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We came in this morning for an aversion proceedure (turn the baby into position). They were expecting to induce if they could get him aimed the right way. Five minutes before they were supposed to do the procedure he turned the right way by himself. Then 20 minutes later he turned again. Drat. Anyway, now they are in the process of inducing and watching. Won't know for sure what's going on until later tonight. - - Robert Scoble

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Right now we're just resting and waiting for the inducing agents to start their jobs. It's still possible that we might have to have a caesarian section, because little Ryan isn't in the right position. More probably later this evening, for now I get to geek out while Maryam takes a nap. - Robert Scoble

Sending lots of beams to Maryam (and you too!) I am out of the loop. I had no idea that the family was growing (and tell M, I'm going to be a grammy come March 1) - Nancy White

Fingers crossed for a natural delivery... unless Maryam would prefer a c-section ;) Good Luck. - Travis Koger

What a handsome name you've chosen ;) - Ryan Whitwam

Robert: I wish you and your wife the safest and best possible birth experience! Here's to a healthy baby boy and Mom!! Keeping you in my thoughts. Leslie - Leslie Carothers

Congrats, Robert. Can't wait to meet the newest Scoble :-) - Daniel Brusilovsky from iPhone

sending good thoughts for the easiest possible delivery, for both Ryan and Maryam - B.L. - B.L. Ochman

Best wishes, Robert. - Raju Vegesna

Are his initials really going to be R.S.S.? - Carlton Prest

Thinking good thoughts for your wife and the baby - Sherrie Belken

Carlton: yes. His name will be Ryan Soroush Scoble. Thanks everyone. - Robert Scoble

Wishing you both well, hoping it all goes to plan - Rachel Clarke

Fingers crossed for a smooth delivery and sending congratulations on your new son! - Jennifer Leggio

All the best, Scoble family! :) - Micah Wittman

bit of a pretentious name, named after one of the wisest Iranian thinkers of the last century. - David Lloyd

Good luck to you & yours :) - Blue_cat_online

Good luck to you both; hope all goes smoothly & swiftly. - Rachel Luxemburg

Nothing but good and positive wishes to Maryam and you and that RSS will come out the second to prettiest baby ever (naturally ours is the prettiest) *wink* - Rene Wirtz

David: my other son, Patrick, was named for a saint and Milan was named for one of the best writers ever. So there. - Robert Scoble

Best wishes, Robert! - Mike Hussein Cohen

Good luck to Robert and Maryam. A big week ahead. - Louis Gray

Thanks Louis and Mike. - Robert Scoble

Robert!!!!! What great news; it will be early. Why did they induce if the due date was the 25th, or was I wrong? - Francine Hardaway

wishing you the best. we have a girl due in a few months :) - Stalyn☂

Francine: because hospitals like to schedule babies, is my guess (Sequoia is like a hotel). But he was breech and they wanted to get him into position, now that she's here they are doing the induction thing. - Robert Scoble

Good wishes to all. I've never met you and even I'm nervous. - Amyloo

Good luck with everything, Robert!!! Very exciting! I hope everything turns out perfect in the end!! - Her Lindsay-ness

Best wishes Scobs! This must be a very exiting day! - Jadito

All the best, Robert. This is Realtime Scoble Scoop (RSS)! - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

Good luck, everyone! - Glen Campbell

Good luck, Robert, Maryam, and Baby Scoble! - Michael R. Bernstein

So the doctor said that Ryan is one of the five most active babies she has seen in her practice which is why they didn't let us go home. Usually babies at this stage stay heads down. Ryan isn't. I think we have a wild one! :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Congratulation and best wishes! - Heather Solos

5 is an odd number to recall. Good luck, best wishes. - Benjamin Taylor

Guarantee he gets a best friend named Adam. - Vezquex: God of FF

Congratulations and good luck. - Luiz Fuzaro

So exciting! Congrats, and good luck Robert! Enjoy the geek out time - that's always one of my favorite parts of having a baby. :-) - Jesse Stay

Very happy for you! Best of luck and hope everyone stays happy and healthy! - Martha

Robert wishing you and your wife a speedy delivery. May you have a happy, healthy baby. - Paul Blasman from iPhone

conggrats! - Alrady

Congrats Scoble! Wishing you , the wife and baby the best of early life. - Nakeva Corothers

Best wishes for this exciting event! - Anne Bouey

Sending good thoughts to your family. Good luck and congrats! - Alex Hellstrom from iPod

Congrats and best wishes - Love the name - you must have made Dave Winer's year with that one! - Steve Lacey from iPhone

Ahh, so looks like I haven't missed anything Robert as its now morning here...hurrah! - Sandra Large

Congratulations Robert and Welcome Ryan! - Martha

Congratulations :) xx - Joe Dawson

Congrats! Everybody doing ok? - Patrick Mackaaij

Robert, we're thinking best thoughts for you, Maryam and R.S.S. (cool initials for the new baby!) Congratulations!!! - Cathryn Hrudicka

Robert Scoble

Will @foursquare be bigger than @twitter? http://scobleizer.com/2009... blog post on that.

September 19 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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*sighs* - Holden Page

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Just checked to be sure. 2 dozen cities. That's it so far. What's the holdup? - rob

Robert, the reason @foursquare is as big as it is, is because of Twitter. - Mona Nomura

ROFL - it's third life that's all :p - DC Crowley

@Rob, its a new product. Give it time. @Scoble, 4square is pigggybacking off of Twitter, I doubt that they will overtake the host, even though it will become very popular in urban areas. - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

Mona: I don't agree. It has very little to do with Twitter. And, anyway, most of the same folks who used Twitter back in 2006 are on it. So, it's tracking Twitter very closely, at least with the early adopter community. - Robert Scoble

@scoble, but is the appeal as large? Perhaps if they spread it to more platforms, and create a simpler check in process. - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

what is the compariosn here scoble? Twitter and Foursquare are completely different products. - Holden Page

Alex: the check in process is pretty nice. When you are in a city that's on the map and when your location is there already. That's the early-adopter problem. We're building out the system for them. Now that they have funding I bet they can get the resources to turn on more cities. - Robert Scoble

Robert - the reason people get so competitive and continuously check in, is because it is on display for all to see on Twitter. - Mona Nomura

Holden: pure adoption, nothing else. - Robert Scoble

Mona: not true. I haven't sent a single checkin to Twitter. And I LOVE checking in. Very addicted. - Robert Scoble

k - Holden Page

My timeline is FILLED with Foursquare smack talk lol. - Mona Nomura

@Scoble, indeed. If they had more locations already existing, they would double their growth. @Holden, similar concepts. Do something small, and broadcast to a lot of people. @mona my iPhone is constantly spammed. - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

I have dumbphone, no foursquare for me lol - Holden Page

@holden, get with it, what decade do you think it is? - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

Holden: Foursquare to get official Windows Mobile app in weeks http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7350 - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

@mark, dont encourage him. - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

I'm very bullish on Foursquare. It's about as addictive as Twitter and much more compelling than BrightKite. The Twitter connection is not particularly important to me. - Leo Laporte

I don't get foursquare. But I'm 30something, so I don't think I'm anywhere close to the target demographic, the trendy-hipster-goes-out-every-night-18-20something. For the record, I also don't get people who check in on FS when they arrive at work *each day* (and thankfully, since wising up, I don't get their updates anymore either). My life pretty much equals work (er, don't need... more... - Adam Lasnik

it seems to be for US people only ... - Steph (sh_skew)

Steph: that problem will eventually be taken care of now that they got funding. - Robert Scoble

Adam: you sound like a lot of my friends when I started showing them Twitter back in 2006. :-) - Robert Scoble

You make a good point, though, Robert. There's nothing stopping Twitter from implementing the same feature set, except for their own reluctance to expand their capabilities. Twitter's current "success" will likely freeze them in place. - Leo Laporte

the fact that twitter was misunderstood but became successful doesn't mean any new company that is a bit odd will be successful. come on scoble - Mark

Mani: I literally have a dumbphone, nineteen dollar replacement phone. My tombileshadow crapped out on me :( - Holden Page

Mark: sorry, when 1,000 early adopters friend me on a new service something is happening that CAN NOT be ignored. Foursquare is the real deal and is going to go all the way. I'm addicted and that doesn't happen very often. Last time it did the company sold for $50 million and that was considered a failure. - Robert Scoble

@Alex I get it's new, doesn't matter. So is every other app in the field, and many manage to work anywhere. @Robert, how many friends do you have on dopplr? - rob

rob: about the same number, but growing a lot slower than Foursquare. Dopplr also isn't a game, isn't addictive the way Foursquare is, and hasn't gotten many people hot and bothered the way Foursquare has. - Robert Scoble

Looks cool, but not in Reno yet. - Kevin Arth

Robert, clearly you are more young-at-heart than I am :D. And frankly, I still am not very excited about Twitter, either, despite having 2200 followers. I pipe my updates to Twitter from FF but halfheartedly, and haven't read through my stream regularly in over a year. I don't need more inputs in my life, I need more outputs. And to continue my curmudgeonly and slightly hypocritical... more... - Adam Lasnik

Adam: that is true, but how many people can write a book or do something longer? I can, but I have to admit I hate the process. No interaction. I far prefer putting a little burp out into the Internet and then seeing what happens to doing something bigger. - Robert Scoble

Creating is creating. It's foolish to insist on any particular form. It's all just participation in life. Far more people aren't participating in any way. - Leo Laporte

I am curious, but like Steph I'm not in the US, so I will have to wait. - Sean Carmody

"something bigger"... what, Robert? I'm not being sarcastic. What "bigger" comes out from these interactions? Often when pondering this, I see this blips of expression as equivalent to mast^H masticating cheetos. Feels good when doing it, but doesn't feel fulfilling long term. And I think anyone can write a book and anyone can cook :). More broadly, New Year's is coming up. How many... more... - Adam Lasnik

Adam: I can see both a scenario where Foursquare has more usage time as well as another scenario where Foursquare makes more money than Twitter. Why? Businesses pay to satisfy intent. Walking into a place is a powerful intent signaler. For instance, if I'm walking into Starbucks you betcha I intend to buy a coffee. Now, what if you walk into a real estate office? Don't you think competitors would LOVE to entice you to walk about and into their business? Absolutely! - Robert Scoble

They don't want me. How can something succeed by excluding people? Foursquare only wants city dwellers, and then only in the largest cities. That's no way to succeed in the long term. - Glen Campbell

George: not true. I live in a small town in a rural area and it's very addictive. They will be adding more cities soon. I agree that's a big problem, but they did that to keep growth down so they wouldn't hit Twitter's downtime problems. I think that's smart. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I agree with you 100% about the importance and opportunity of location-based-options, I'll give you that much! :) - Adam Lasnik

Cap'n: If they make it big they will want you. Problem I see is our attention spans. How long can this game really keep us entertained? - Holden Page

Non-American (Rest of the world) user base of Twitter has increased from 38% to 58%. More than half of Twitter users are outside the US. Just saying. Foursquare is limited by its geography. - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

I see it as incredibly limited to major metro areas and very exclusionary. Why would I bother with a service I'll only use very rarely if I remember when I visit a supported metropolis? It's far to exclusionary and Twitter is location agnostic and unaware. Sorry, but I strongly disagree. LBS isn't ever going to be driven by checkins. Latitude hasn't got it right, but until there's... more... - Ken Camp

Foursquare isn't really covering the US that well. Unless of course you assume there are only 20 some odd cities here. For the rest of us, we have to choose the best or closest location? It's not useful if you can't find others nearby. Oh, and in case someone didn't notice, there are 2 locations listed for outside of the US. Vancouver and Amsterdam. It definitely has potential and for... more... - Sheryl

That's my thought too that FourSquare, LBS and even "hyperlocal" sites are limited by its geography. So far, I haven't seen anything online that is intended to be hyperlocal be a major success outside of the major DMAs (not counting stores). For example, I live in the Hartford area so you'd think we'd catch the NYC/Boston wave but it never does (to date). If they can't reach Hartford with success, how are these services going to hit mid-America? - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

I've been trying to explain FourSquare's importance to local businesses a lot lately, and this photo (from the Marsh Cafe in San Francisco) generally makes the best case: http://www.flickr.com/photos.... Once people see that, the lights start to go on. - Darren Barefoot

no. foursquare will not be bigger than twitter. it does not have the universal reach or appeal. - jbrotherlove

jbrotherlove: Twitter doesn't have universal reach or appeal yet either. So far out of seven billion people 45 million are on Twitter. - Robert Scoble

People are totally missing the point: given the time Robert spends on Twitter / FriendFeed / YouNameIT, how come the Scoble's are having a baby again? :-) Congrats! - Zoli Erdos

I'll wait until Foursquare is actually available in most places. If it falls to the wayside, and it probably will, it's because most people in the world can't even get access to it. Twitter is universal; Foursquare is only available in select few cities. - Carlton Prest

Limited geographies, slower and more limited take-up of location-based services (the creepy factor, among other issues), juvenile game structure. I really don't see broad and sustained appeal. - LogEx

nope - Ouriel Ohayon

I'm not sure I see any immediate value to #FourSquare for most people if it's not available in full strength everywhere. Sure, it's undoubtedly fantastic for people in NY — but I'm not there. - Hieronymus Murphy

Rebecca Leaman

reading : "21 Must-Follow Tips for Optimizing Time Spent in Social Media" http://www.toprankblog.com/2009... < not mere fluff

September 18 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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lorenzo Sinisi

Maroon 5 - Goodnight Goodnight: Marc Webb '08, Closed Captioned - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Jen

Renaissance 600 Thread Count 100% Cotton Sateen Queen Sheet Set, Chocolate - http://www.amazon.com/dp...

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Alma Rivera

The Worship seminar last Night was so Powerful. Young people & little kids were fill with The Presence of God..!!

August 22 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Drew McLellan

Is there a way to blog without having a blog? Borrow a blog, own the customers http://www.smartbrief.com/news...

July 9 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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l0ckergn0me

Mount Rushmore as seen from Canada.

June 27 - Comment - Like - Share

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HAHAHAHA - Anika

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Fair trade for them getting the good view of Niagara Falls I'd say. - invariant - farewell FF

frickin sweet! - BEX

lol - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

LOL - Tibor Holoda

Yup that's exactly what it looks like from here. - Barry Sanschagrin

ROFL - Ethan

So where exactly did Nicholas Cage enter to find the treasure? - Geoff Schultz

LOL! too funny. - John Blanton from twhirl

LOL - Roberto Bonini

Heh. B. Kliban did a cartoon of this with their pants down. Good job on this, tho :-) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

hahaha, that's funny! - freedom fighter mom from twhirl

What? There's another view? Please post. - Ken Morley

I'm pretty sure it's in the collection "Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Head", published back in the early/mid 70s. I know I've got it around here somewhere... - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

ROTFL, "the other side" - Roberto aka postoditacco from fftogo

Hahaha. Awesome sight for 'em Canadians! - Santosh

face down and ass in the air! Love it! - John Hillestad

Cool, except anybody who's been to Mount Rushmore knows it faces east! So really this is the view from Wyoming. - Ben Hanten

Ben: Americans have never been known to have a sense of direction. - l0ckergn0me

Hilarious :-D - Ace

I literally LOL'd. - Mike Cefalo

Sarah Palin sees this from the other side of her house. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

awesome - Nick Humphries

I lol´d. - Jens Christian Freund

ahahahahahahah - Adriano Mercurio

LMAO! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

lol ... yup that's just what we see from Canada ... a bunch of asses - jay macpherson

Well played, jay. Well played. - Jason Huebel

*access memory: Braveheart battle scene* - Mo Kargas

Too funny! - Mark Harai

Haha... I LOL'ed for real too. - Barbara

wiping away tears. rofl - Capn' One Eye - adrift

+1 Jay (not really true, but still very funny :o) - Ken Morley

Hay I am Canadian !.....giggle - hollyseven

How did I miss this?! HAHA - Mona Nomura

I think somebody has a wedgie! - CAJ, somewhere else

The view from Canada is the rock on the left & Lincoln's shoes. - Wade Dorrell

that is epic. ;) - Philip "dmouse" Campbell

Hilarious! :) - Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom

Awesome! - Timothy Federwitz

hahahaha wtf - tohuko

That's priceless. - Todd Libby

Teddy has a nice butt =p - LouCypher

where do you get this stuff from - Frank loves it - Kathi Barrett

That is brilliant. B3TA or somewhere similar? - dannystaple

Hahahah! Mount Rushmore as seen from Canada. - KyNam Doan

haha ace babes xx - abigailashleawhitaker

This is an old pic, but is still always funny to see. :) - John Pyper

Roney Smith

"Sweet Dreams" by The Eurhythmics was indeed purchased my good peeps:) It still rocks too! MJ is taking me back to my early 80s pop days!

June 27 from Ping.fm - Comment - Like - Share

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Stephen Kruiser

Sat night: Dinner, a movie, some wine. I might try this w/ some1 other than me soon. U know, with a woman or something.

June 27 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Kellye Crane

Can't wait! RT @conniereece: I'll be on Friday's FIR broadcast w/ @garyvee, @johncass and @jbell99 talking PR pitches. http://www.forimmediaterelease.biz/index...

June 24 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

New avatar. Yay or nay?

June 22 - Comment - Like - Share

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Definitely Yay. - ha3rvey (free hugs!)

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Yay and Yay! - Janet

hellz yeah - Shevonne

supercharming smile! absolutely yay! - ★ Esther Rudolph

two thumbs up - Brent - Long Live Rock

so pretty, Mo! - Yolanda

wuv <3 - Gordon Swaby

This is one picture I don't mind popping back up to the top of the feed. :) - ha3rvey (free hugs!)

Nice - Bryan R. Adams

Yay! - Kandeezie

I could not resist the allure of a user name like Kandeezie. Instant sub. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

epic yay! - Michael Forian

Totally. :) - Dan Messer

Absolutely YAY ♥ - AJ Batac

nice pic, monique - Valley

Thanks guys for the love <3 - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

Two thumbs up - Steve C

yay - Lynne d Johnson

Yay - Tracy Benham

Cee Bee to Cee's feed, ART ROOMََََ, Typography

Ebon Heath and his visual poetry - http://www.yatzer.com/1690_eb...

May 29 - Comment - Like - Share

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This visual journey began as a love affair with letters and a question: how do we fuse our typographic language with the physicality of our body language? I want our type to jump, scream, whisper and dance, versus lay flat, dead and dormant, to be used and discarded with no concern for its intricate beauty of form, function, and meaning. We use type daily yet rarely appreciate the form of a letter. By liberating type from the confines of the page we not only free the words to express the content in a new dimension of scale, volume, and movement, but also force the reader to become a viewer. This process reveals the form of our letters while creating a new relationship to our language in our ability to feel versus only read the content. I love the visual of "crystalized words as frozen flowers". This is clear on a visual level, yet also the form of the flower has evolved to fulfill a specific function. All the subservient smaller bio chemical reactions that make up its structure on a... more... - Cee Bee

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I was looking at his art last week. I'm still dazzled by these pieces. I would love to see them up close. - Anika

it's amazing artwork. i can't even think how he comes up with the structures. they look real delicate and sturdy all at once - Cee Bee

Awesome! - Anna Haro

Very cool. - Carmen

...very creative work. - .LAG liked that

Brandon Chesnutt

Tweeting Your Way to a Job - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

May 28 from Facebook - Comment - Like - Share

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Jeremy Toeman

i have to say, friendfeed is actually *losing* value to me, not gaining it. if i don't put in crazy energy here, pretty much nobody likes/comments my stuff, which pretty much makes using the site a waste of time. on a "ROI of my energy" perspective, my blog, Twitter, and even IM is seems like a better use of my time...

May 23 - Comment - Like - Share

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Trying to help... :) - Sid Burgess

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Jeremy, I'm confused... are you using friendfeed for the community and experience or are you using it to dive traffic to your stuff? - Bastard Operator From FF

@Sean - all of it. my comment is that, if i dont put in a LOT of energy, i dont feel i gain in the community/experience... - Jeremy Toeman

Jeremy, why do you think that is? I haven't spent a lot of energy in FF and now I'm wondering if it's worth it - Andre P. Siregar

Jeremy: I went and looked at your page and there just isn't much that is interesting lately from you. Why the entitlement attitude to our attention? - Robert Scoble

I often forget that while I'm following a bunch of folks, not that many are following me. So when I don't get comments or attention, I just do a mental shrug and carry on. The value in FF to me is what I learn from others. While I wish more people would interact with me on topics I introduce, that's what my blogs are for, not what I use FF for. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

@Robert who are you to tell me what is "interesting"? oh, and you've "liked" two of my things recently. - Jeremy Toeman

Plus, your items are rarely conversational. Rarely have your personality (that I miss, by the way), rarely have images, rarely are posted from here, and show little engagement with the community. - Robert Scoble

Jeremy, don't let anyone suggest you're not getting attention because of the quality of your contribution. The design was broken when they made the upgrade and the user experience for all but the most committed users has suffered. You are not alone. - Sprague D

Jeremy, just giving you feedback about what gets engagement. Your stuff lately isn't engaging. - Robert Scoble

I love friend feed - I see everything popping up from all my social media and I can be on top of it instantly - there's nothing that I know of that works as well as this to aggregate everything real time. - James Stewart

Jeremy, I haven't even looked at your stuff lately (sorry), but more because I've been busy than anything else. However, you seem to be insisting upon love from strangers. Have you invited real-life friends here? Some of the most active commenters and like'ers on my stuff are those friends of mine that I know in real life, who care about me, who care about what I think, what I'm doing,... more... - Adam Lasnik

Jeremy: put this feed on your screen and compare it to yours: http://friendfeed.com/search... You'll see that there's a HUGE difference between the items you are putting in here and yours. - Robert Scoble

Sprague: what you are noticing is that in the past two weeks many thousands of new people have come in here, and have brought their feeds as well. So the bar to getting attention has gone WAY UP. It's a lot harder to get attention. The feeds are all going faster. What I'm doing now is building new searches to find good content around topics. Also, I'm building private rooms where I'm inviting my friends into have a conversation about something specific. Those are things I can't do anywhere else. - Robert Scoble

Jeremy, the quality of your offerings is fine -- when users complain about user experience it is often because of systemic design changes. Your note implies that FF was once more engaging for you (as it was for me) that changed with the new "real time" design that requires much greater commitment (posting, managing lists, etc.) in order to keep your stuff in front of people. It's not you, it's FriendFeed. - Sprague D

Once again you make sense of it all, Robert. - Chris Heath

I second that I can't believe I didnt get on this earlier - enjoying the banter :) - James Stewart

Sprague: there are WAVES of new users coming here lately due to the easy integration from Twitter that was added a couple of weeks ago. I actually am seeing more engagement on my items. The searches here are letting me get a LOT more value out of friendfeed than before, too. - Robert Scoble

Robert, you're the definition of an outlier and actually proof of what I'm saying. Neither Jeremy nor I use the service the way you do and have seen our experience of it decline since the design change. As far as usage, I would love to see the reach numbers for FriendFeed going forward. I'm betting that a lot of those new people will churn because of the high barrier to engagement caused by the design. - Sprague D

Sprague: Jeremy used to participate here a lot more and used to blog a lot more and used to post things that I cared about. Lately? I am finding him less and less interesting. I expected that, actually, he has a new baby. Watch how my usage here goes way down in September when Scobleizer 3.0 arrives. - Robert Scoble

If you use Friend Feed for keeping you own personal network up dated and following its great I never really log into my twitter anymore I can hanlde everything from Friend Feed and My Cell Phone even from all the way over here in Australia... Its handy... - Chris Henderson

You and Jeremy almost have a point, Sprague, but Twitter? Give me a break. It's noiser and noiser and all of my friends are saying they are getting less and less engagement there. - Robert Scoble

How do you get people away from Facebook & on here though? - Jason Hansen

Wow I see the FF fans are out in full force again. @Jeremy you are right to a point - Friendfeed is a lot more work since they flipped the switch on their opinion of what the real-time web is (which I wrote about here - http://bit.ly/3aDGf4 - and got equally smacked down as you are) but someone had a suggestion that I still have to play with - that being instead of concentrating on the... more... - Steven Hodson

Jeremy, you make a great point. I like FF but much of my network is on Twitter & using FF as an aggregator, it makes it hard to have conversations here when they all originate from Twitter. However, I do believe we're on the brink of change. - Karen Swim

@Robert we almost have a point -- well that's almost a compliment! ;-) I expect that the FF boys (who are clearly brilliant programmers) will finesse the ui over time. UIs are tough. I agree Twitter is a rough place but... it's *simple*. That counts. They need to find the balance between features and ease of use. - Sprague D

Sprague: I get more engagement on Facebook than I do on Twitter (and that's with a FAR smaller audience because Facebook limits me to 5,000 friends) and Facebook is MUCH more complicated than Twitter. I'm really getting tired of the hype of Twitter being better because it's simpler. Facebook is still growing a Twitter every six weeks. 225 million vs. 30 million for the "simpler" service. - Robert Scoble

Robert no disrespect because you know I value what you do, but we really need to hear from people who may not have as high a profile in order to get a better sense of how everyday users are experiencing the changes to FF. Do you know how Paul and Bret are assessing that (unique users, returning users, time on site, etc.)? For example, I still rely on FF as an aggregator, but spend much less time on site. - Sprague D

Sprague: yes, they are using focus groups (which is why they made several of the changes here) and they are watching time on site and amount of likes per person and comments per person and also are active here in many places. But they haven't shared much more about that. The thing that drags people back here is conversations on specific topics. Some of those can get hundreds or thousands of comments. - Robert Scoble

Sprague: There are alot of users who don't have as high profile as Robert and still find the service much more better then Twitter which is just a broadcasting service - which is getting filled with a lot of marketers/spammers which unlike Twitter are removed from here quickly. I spend more time over here then over on Twitter because I can engage with people easier via a better DM... more... - Nicholas James

Sprague, for example, Here's a list of all items that have more than 100 comments here: http://friendfeed.com/search... that list is getting more items faster now than it was three months ago. - Robert Scoble

Sprague: here's a list of all items that have gotten 100 likes or more, too: http://friendfeed.com/search... This list too is growing a lot faster today than it was three months ago. That demonstrates that a lot more people are using the service, but that it's harder to get attention. - Robert Scoble

Just looking at the features I would easily say Friendfeed is the better place to spend my time but I find myself over at twitter more than any other place. - Hunter

I agree with Scoble on the entitlement issue.. nothing too interesting on the page. I think friendfeeds search and real-time capabilities surpass any other social media site. Twitter has far too much noise. - Johnny

Oh Robert, Robert, Robert yet again you are holding up how you use these social media tools and your opinions of them as being gospel. With the utmost respect - Piss Off. You are unique when it comes to social media service use. I admire all to hell your ability to process what you do during the day *but* not everyone using social media is using it for the same reasons your do or in the... more... - Steven Hodson

Hunter: that's fair. I have been on Twitter 910+ days and I spend a lot of time over there too. One thing I've noticed is that my behavior IS early adopter and IS often two years ahead of the market. I remember having these arguments with my blog's readers. They wanted to stay on the blog comments, not come over to Twitter. Now most of them have joined Twitter and are resisting coming to the new thing. I'm seeing more and more move over though. - Robert Scoble

Hodson: what ARE you talking about? This whole feed started with a guy who was upset with a service because he is not getting the attention he wants... Are you high? - Johnny

@Johnny you might as well be stepping into the middle of a conversation. This is something that Robert and I have been going around on for a few days now. And no I'm not high (biting tongue against snappy retort) - Steven Hodson

@Johnny oh and by the way how was Joe's originating comment anything about not getting attention ... it was in fact just a statement about finding less value in FF because of time being required to get any value out of it. - Steven Hodson

Johnny: Hodson is one of those people who would rather denigrate someone who is ahead of him in understanding the usage of these tools. I have had the exact same reactions from people who used to tell me that the world didn't need Mouse and Windows. True story. Then later when IM came out people told me no one would EVER have hundreds of people on their IM lists, or use it for business. Today most of my friends have that many. - Robert Scoble

Nicholas, agree totally that FF has it all over Twitter in features. Robert, perhaps much of the issue is just caused by increased traffic but I'm not sure. I need to cut out. This has been good. - Sprague D

Johnny: I remember when I had 1,000 friends on Twitter and my friends were giving me shit for having so many and saying that I couldn't understand the real world. Same argument as Hodson is giving me. Hodson is wrong. He'll always be wrong. He can't stand it because people DO follow us into the deep end of the pool, eventually, because, well, it's more fun there. - Robert Scoble

thanks Robert. I wasn't denigrating you. But if you want to think so then fine. - Steven Hodson

How to interest Robert Scoble: talk about him, or his ideas, or skewer a sacred cow of his. Then it will turn up in his vanity search. (Oh, let me get "Scobleizer" in there so it'll pique his interest. - TxVoodoo

Steven: you are saying I'm unique. Actually, history has proven I am not. I'm just early. That's all. Not unique. A year from now I wish people would go back and understand this, but they never do. I've been through this before. Which is why when you tell me to piss off you are wrong and a jerk. - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo: go to http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... -- how many items there follow your advice? Not many. You are wrong and a jerk. Thanks for adding to the conversation. - Robert Scoble

Robert I meant that with all the best humor intended I'm sorry you didn't see it as such - Steven Hodson

Robert: Glad to know we are on the same page. I have had the same problems trying to explain the usage of certain technology/tools. And you're right about people following us... Its almost frustrating to think about how many people told me time and time again how Twitter will fail and how its not for them.. where are we a few years later? They're all using it. Same with ff. :) - Johnny

Steven: I've heard that argument before. Many times. The person saying it has ALWAYS been proven wrong. Which is why I'm telling you you're wrong. Humor is fine. Where's the smilie? :-) - Robert Scoble

Johnny: exactly. I could wallpaper my bathroom with all the comments that I got in the early days of Twitter that said "Twitter is lame." All from guys like Hodson. - Robert Scoble

Oops, hit enter too quickly. Seriously, though, ones objectives shouldn't be to engage only 1 reader, even one as vaunted as Scoble. It should be to first express something you feel strongly about, and hopefully engage others who are interested in what you think. But I wouldn't consider Robert's critique as near to valid, because it's a classic example of "YMMV". Different strokes, etc,... more... - TxVoodoo

shit things are heating up in here! dam you can type fast Scoble!! :-) SMILE haha - James Stewart

James: the best class I took in college was typing. :-) - Robert Scoble

Jeremy, you aren't alone in wishing that people would contribute to the conversations you try to start. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

TxVoodoo: ad hominems? Hahahahahahah. Boy, you are funny. You're the one who made a false statement. - Robert Scoble

@Robert - excuse me? But if you check you will find I have been using Twitter for almost as long as you have so don't hang the lame label on me (for that). Just as I've been using Friendfeed for as long if not longer than you. - Steven Hodson

MiniMage: life doesn't guarantee you a listener. - Robert Scoble

Is there really a right or wrong answer here though? - Jason Hansen

Same. That's why I couldn't help but call the guy out. Lame. - Johnny

@Robert re: missing smiley - oppss it slid by me :) :) :) :) :) :) :) - Steven Hodson

I reckon dude - I've been cruzing though my emails and facebook and friendfeed all arvo and watching this convo roll out has been really interesting. loved that vid of you talking about building43 and friendfeed on your fan page - just can't believe I havn't been tracking you earlier - thanks for the insights all the way to NZ :) - James Stewart

Well, um, Jeremy, looks like you got your wish. Lots of replies here! :D - Adam Lasnik

Robert-how about this one? http://friendfeed.com/scobles... - Not all of us feel the need to Big Brother the world about our mentions. And I'm not a jerk because I disagree with you. I've felt this for a while, feels good to speek my mind. Been around as long as you, just haven't felt world revolved around me. - TxVoodoo

Steven: well, I am telling you that there's some lessons you guys aren't getting and you're trying to denigrate those lessons by saying I'm "unique." Sorry, the teacher is ALWAYS unique. I guarantee you that you'll be using the techniques I'm learning in friendfeed a few months from now and you'll be saying that I am right. - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo: what about my vanity feed? You trying to tell me you don't look to see what people are saying about you? Liar. - Robert Scoble

@Robert if that is the case at least I'll be man enough to admit in print .. which I have done before when I have been proven wrong - Steven Hodson

Adam: Shame they're not referring to the original topic though ;) - Nicholas James

Oh, Robert - an opinion can't be a false statement. Don't strawman me! And how can you know if I'm lying or not? Don't project. That's libel, sir. - TxVoodoo

Adam: this is the first engaging thing Jeremy has done since his baby was born. I miss his engaging self. - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo: oh give me a break. That got you one big step closer to a block since you're here just to be a troll, not for a conversation. - Robert Scoble

one thing that does seem kind of limiting is the misinterpretation of text still on here - but it's not like you can do video. Another thing is that the amount of attention this has brought to Jeremy is huge - I wouldn't have come across him except that I saw Scoble talk at the start of this thread and wanted to see what he was on about - haha calling people a jerk is the best insult. - James Stewart

Seriously, this is about social media, which presumes social etiquette, and ad hominems are just cheap. - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo block warning #2. Don't tell me what's social etiquette. You follow your own rules, I'll follow mine. - Robert Scoble

Jeremy, your original point is quite valid. To me, FF is the Usenet of the 00s - most use it to flamewar and self-promote. I rarely get value on it. I see an awful lot of bloviating & frankly, circles of backrubbing. - TxVoodoo

Scoble, lemme get this thru your head: 1) this isn't YOUR ff. 2) I don't CARE. You have little to no impact on my existence. 3) If it makes you feel important, do it. I don't begrudge others their entertainment. - TxVoodoo

RScoble: If I listen to others, it'd be nice for them to listen back. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

See this is the Key. People who are thinking about ROI aren't in love with what they are doing. No offense. I and about 99% of the population fall into, sadly the same category. The people like Scobleizer, who are loving what they do, are on the edge of excitement all the time. Everyone should find out what it is that makes them tick, and follow that for a career. Not preaching. More writing this for myself. You know how they say, we write in order to learn. - Stephen Pickering

Stephen, yes. I find much of what goes on here to be naval gazing and beating of dead horses. Good lord, stop *talking* about social media, go and BE social with it. - TxVoodoo

Jeremy: you should have had a disclaimer. Your job is to build very close relationships with influencers. People like Ryan Block who used to run Engadget etc. And me, because I have a large audience. You want to have a place where you can study JUST THOSE PEOPLE. You don't care about people like TxVoodoo who has only a few readers and who doesn't even disclose his real name. So, to you, those people add noise and friction to studying the influencers you need to get your products in front of. - Robert Scoble

Robert, HER real name. And it's out there, if you look. And I don't measure my value or validate my existance by number of readers. - TxVoodoo

For heaven's sake, my icon is of my face. - TxVoodoo

Jeremy: you'd rather have a dinner with Gary Shapiro, who runs CES, than talk with "normal people" like TxVoodoo. So, when you see a comment stream like this one it takes too much work. See, you can interact with people like Gary over IM, or on Twitter, where he only has a few followers, and you can lock everyone else out, but here people like TxVoodoo leak into the conversation which... more... - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo Yes, I heartily agree, but for some people, like Scobleizer, Gillmor, Leo, that is their passion and job, and it has great value to the rest of us to report on weigh in on that sector of technology. But I hear what you are saying, and I think Scoble is interested in the same thing, how to apply this very technology to every kind of career and make it more fun and productive - Stephen Pickering

OH MY Robert, you're really making yourself look dreadful. The "normal people" don't count? Who buys your services? Who hires you? Who reads your works? Way to alienate! It might not occur to you that some of us use these services for other things that aren't less valuable. - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: I know Jeremy. Do you? He does marketing and influencer management and PR and that kind of thing to launch new companies. - Robert Scoble

Stephen yes - but as I say above, it doesn't pay to alienate ppl w/ less followers/readers/etc. One never knows where a jewel will come from, or a job. Y'all don't know who I am, or who I represent, or what my buying power is, right? - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: You're only helping Robert prove his point by spamming this conversation. - Johnny

Robert, do you know me? Do you know what I might do? Do you know what I might buy? Why auto kneejerk to slit your own (professional) throat, possibly inadvertantly? Social media should have value-but not only in having all the S.M. folks engage one another. - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: sorry, but people like Jeremy can't engage with everyone. He is one of the world's best at figuring out who is important. Watch him work a show on behalf of a vendor. I watched him at CES. He is very adept at figuring out who the buyers are, who the press is, who has an audience, who is just there to waste his time, etc. - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo Don't beat up on Scobleizer, he's on yours and my side, he's saying we the people who are on the outside of the tech industry, that our voice is important too - Stephen Pickering

TxVoodoo: you aren't a good listener. - Robert Scoble

I agree with Robert 100% on noise to value ratio with Twitter and now with FF. With your help we are experiencing it right now. - Johnny

People like Jeremy can't or won't engage with everyone? - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

TxVoodoo: I was talking about Jeremy, not you. To Jeremy you are just another shlub. - Robert Scoble

Just another shlub, reporting for duty. - Ken Sheppardson

MiniMage: Jeremy said exactly that above. That he isn't willing to put in the hard work participating because he gets more ROI somewhere else. I've seen how Jeremy works. He works dinners. Private emails. Phone calls. And gets to know INFLUENCERS intimately. He has won CES's best of show several times on behalf of his clients. Hint: he doesn't see a way to get that done here. He should have disclosed that. - Robert Scoble

*sigh* See, Robert. You are missing soooo many points here. These discussions could have value - like the one I'm having w/ Stephen. Stephen's reading my words and their import, not just kneejerking. But influencing happens on MANY levels, in many fora. - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: But isn't Robert saying Jeremy doesn't want to bother with the influencing on your level, when he can benefit greater from his normal levels? - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Johnny: this is what happens with EVERY onlne community. The noise level goes up as newbies come in. I've seen it happen over and over and over and over. What's fun is that in friendfeed we can start secret societies. I'm shocked that Jeremy hasn't discovered that yet. Because that WOULD let him get high value out of friendfeed, similar to his IM client or his Tweets. - Robert Scoble

MiniMage: that's exactly what I was saying. - Robert Scoble

But TxVoodoo while Scobleizer is one of the "important" people as Kawasaki calls them, he is the only one who engages us like this right now. He really does care about the interconnection of "regular" businesses and organizations with this new Social Media World. - Stephen Pickering

To me, FF isn't organic. Discovery isn't organic on it, it's not a great way to find new info and share it. I don't want nor care to influence Robert. On the other hand, I will say I'm more interested in reading Stephen, now. Maybe not his FF, but other bits. - TxVoodoo

Everyone is talking to fast, you don't realize you are having 2 conversations that aren't related anymore (I don't think anyone is really listening at the moment), at least in IMHO. One is about "high-level" users and the value of FF and the other is about the "normal" users. They are different and can't easily be broken down into one answer (with apologies to those who think they can).... more... - Brad_King

TxVoodoo: I wrote a book called Naked Conversations that SAID EXACTLY THAT. It's clear you haven't done your homework about me, just like I haven't done mine about you. - Robert Scoble

Robert, what do you mean by "secret societies"? - LPH™ and his dog P™

@Brad_King .. thank you for making the distinction - Steven Hodson

LPH: here in friendfeed you can build rooms that no one can see into except if you are invited. A secret society. - Robert Scoble

Brad, true enough. I like working and thinking outside the box - and that often requires bringint in 'normal' folks, integrating their input. I think a lot of recent tech could be made more valuable by integrating their input at the beginning-too much is now grown from minds of 'important' folks while forgetting what normal ppl need to WORK. - TxVoodoo

Robert: Hopefully you'll send me a message and let me in on some of these secret societies so I can focus more on discussion and less on TxVoodoo! - Johnny

@Stephen that is the thing I have *always* liked about Robert and even though he thinks I'm a smuck I still hold him and what he does in high regard. We need more like him. - Steven Hodson

btw, as a disinterested third party reading - there are lots of good points here. I hope that people go back and re-read post flame war (used in the 70s sense of the word = good, not the bad sense). (disclosure: Scoble helped me figure FF out :) - Brad_King

Johnny: well, there's more than one way to get rid of TxVoodoo. I almost blocked her, but kept her here to see just what she'd say. What can I say, it's a slow news night and I needed some entertainment. :-) My son has control of the TV. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

Johnny: there's always the block feature ;) - Nicholas James

Rober, Yah, I didn't read your book. Strange that I say what you wrote, but you don't use it? (ok, low blow). I just very much dislike this caste system you seem to perpetrate. I've been important in my field from time to time, and I feel it makes me too insular. - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: I'm not talking about you Damn It. You are soooo narcissistic. - Robert Scoble

Please forward me invites to the high-value secret society rooms. kthxbye - Ken Sheppardson

TxVoodoo: I'm talking about Jeremy. THAT IS HIS ATTITUDE!!!! - Robert Scoble

Brad_King - totally agree, it's been interesting to watch this develop over the past couple of hours and something I think I'll use an example for how cool FF is. Love IT - James Stewart

Robert, thank you for the best laugh of the evening - TxVoodoo

Stephen has the right of it. How many of the big players would look at a nobody's blog, follow her on Twitter or respond in email? http://scobleizer.com/2006... - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

TxVoodoo: you think everything is about you, don't you? Heheh. - Robert Scoble

May I quote Carly Simon to you? - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: that song is in my head thanks to you. :-) - Robert Scoble

You two need to learn to use emoticons, me thinks. There ya go, Robert. - Ken Sheppardson

It's definitely hard to hate on Robert because he'll actually respond :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

Ha, I've always thought of the block feature as the easy way out. I'm going to call it a night. Robert: send me a FF or Twitter DM in the near future and we can discuss more tech, less Voodoo. - Johnny

I've a bit of snark in me, no question. HOWEVER. To the subject - this is a great chance to engage w/ as fandoms call them, the Big Names, so to speak - and maybe puncture their insular bubbles? - TxVoodoo

Johnny: a private room is even better than a block. That way the person you are trying to remove from the discussion doesn't know it happened. - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo: let me know how it goes trying to get @oprah to engage. - Robert Scoble

FWIW, I don't think FF is best or only way to do it. I believe we should use the tools that work for us, not fit our work to the tools. - TxVoodoo

or Leo Laporte? - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

TxVoodoo: I dare you to try to have this kind of conversation on your blog or over on Twitter. - Robert Scoble

Robert - false comparison - she isn't active on Twitter, she's not a 'real' user. And Robert? I've had convos like this many times on my blog & on twitter. - TxVoodoo

Mini: Leo actually is pretty engaged. - Robert Scoble

He's never said a thing to me - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Again-it's NOT the tool-it's what you do w/ it. - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: now I know why you don't have many followers on Twitter. (Low blow, but true) - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo: Show me where you have had a similiar conversation on Twitter - Nicholas James

TxVoodoo: if you had a conversation like this over on Twitter (I have) you would have had hundreds of people complaining. - Robert Scoble

And what you do w/ it is influenced by how natural it feels to you. Example: i don't like the "hit enter it posts" thing here. - TxVoodoo

I see what u mean - orionstarr

Nicholas: she would, but Twitter search isn't working right now. - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo: Why don't you let FF know your opinions in the Feedback room then ;) - Nicholas James

Robert-you're engaging the wrong ppl on twitter-I do political talk there, often, and it works. I haven't had anyone complain, perhaps because I've followed/am followed by like-minded people - TxVoodoo

I don't think it ever fails. If someone posts that no one is paying attention to what she/he is saying, a conversation explodes. Maybe I should try it ;) - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

TxVoodoo: You mean close-minded people. - Jason Hansen

Nicolas because I haven't really ever cared enough? - TxVoodoo

But TxVoodoo what I gather about Robert from following him is that he is the opposite of the caste system. He's just the opposite of all those characteristics you hate (and for good reason many times) that's one reason he's very popular - Stephen Pickering

btw, screw you guys.... because of this conversations I didn't edit my book chapter for the last hour (your fault and your fault and your fault...you get the idea) ;) <-- joke emoticon - Brad_King

@MiniMage - only if robert gets involved so make sure to be negative :) LOL - Steven Hodson

Let me ask fathers, though, if Hooters' wings stop tasting so good when they have daughters, and no one's in the woods to hear my tree fall. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Stephen: I don't *hate*, I bemoan. I am sorry that he choses to keep his circle like that. - TxVoodoo

Also, I think I *will* go to feedback-darned page keeps scrolling the typing box out of view. That's not organic, dammit! - TxVoodoo

Brad_King what kind of Book are you writing? - Stephen Pickering

Am off for evening, adios. - TxVoodoo

TxVoodoo: you should have clicked on the time stamp. - Robert Scoble

TxVoodoo: that would have opened up a window with the comment box on the bottom. - Robert Scoble

Robert++, that's what I did - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

@Stephen: The kind that isn't being edited right now :) I have 2 books with Carnegie Mellon (virtual worlds and social media+storytelling) and editing a book of essays for them on digital creation. NONE of them have been touched. Bastards. - Brad_King

Robert: Thanks for that tip... haha. I always click on Share, etc... - Jason Hansen

I right-clicked and opened in a new window, because I'm cool like that. No, I'm not serious. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Rahsheen: see, that's where Hodson goes wrong. Sometimes it takes an advanced user of a service to figure out all the productivity tips and teach them to other people. - Robert Scoble

Robert, stupid question, what is clicking on the time stamp? I keep having to go to the top of the page too - Stephen Pickering

That's where I've been watching the action! - Christopher Harley

Stephen: underneath the title at the top of this node is a time stamp. When this item was originally posted. Click on it. - Robert Scoble

Stephen: now, if you click on it again you'll get a second type of window to open. - Robert Scoble

@Robert .. huh .. what have I got to do with productivity tips? - Steven Hodson

Christopher: I knew there was a reason I was watching you. - Robert Scoble

I'm sort of curious when I see people use the acronym ROI when it comes to "Social Media" tool, how exactly they define "return". For me return is learning stuff, not building traffic and followers. I can see how FriendFeed might be a poor platform on which to build an audience, because yes... you have to actually participate rather than just throw breadcrumbs over the wall now and then. - Ken Sheppardson

So Jeremy Stormbringer starts this and wanders off? - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Steven: because you don't like it when I tell people how to use friendfeed to get the most out of it. - Robert Scoble

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, I learned something! Thanks Robert! - Stephen Pickering

@Robert, btw, I sent you a DM here earlier about th Carnegie book. I know you have a billion of them, but I'd like to talk with you if you have the time. No rush. - Brad_King

Me too, thanks ! - Barbara

It's because I've been here for a year and even tried to leave for a month and only made it 26 days! - Christopher Harley

Brad: cool, I'll try to get to my DM's. Got a bunch of them. - Robert Scoble

26 days? That's IMPRESSIVE! uh, but why the heck did you do it? - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

@Robert: yeah, I know. It's for the Entertainment Technology Center (ETC) Press. Do you know Drew Davidson? - Brad_King

It's a tough habit to try and break. - Christopher Harley

@Robert .. you and I really need to talk :) tip away my man .. make it as useful as hell .. the more people who use the better ... just because I raise questions about how it is used and why doesn't make me someone who doesn't like the serive. If that was that case I wouldn't keep coming back day fter day - Steven Hodson

MiniMage: These threads often turn into that sort of party where the host wants to go to bed but a bunch of the guests just want to hang out and watch the big screen TV all night. - Ken Sheppardson

Brad_King wow, you are right in the middle of it. And I thought Scoble and Brogan were the Social Media Kings! - Stephen Pickering

Chris: You kept away from FriendFeed for 26 days. Wow. - Nicholas James

Ken: when Jeremy says "ROI" that means that his job is to influence influential people like journalists and bloggers with big audiences. He's finding that more and more those people are disappearing into a sea of other people. It pisses him off. - Robert Scoble

@Stephen: the dude abides. Scoble knows a lot more about much of this than I ever will. - Brad_King

Steven: anytime! Part of it is I assume you're like Arrington and just like to argue to get an audience going. That's cool. It's fun for me too. - Robert Scoble

Good point...but should Jeremy be going to bed just yet? It's only midnight on the East Coast, and don't the movers and the shakers work 3 hours later? - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

I still haven't seen that movie, Brad. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

I did. Twitter, GReader, Facebook, and my own blogs got all my attention but in the end, this is where new ideas are spread out over the greatest number of users. - Christopher Harley

MiniMage: Jeremy has a new baby. And if his wife let him away from those duties he's probably out having dinner with someone who has more influence than me. :-) - Robert Scoble

@Robert please don't make that comparison please. I like to raise questions and make conversations happen. If I do that by being the devil's advocate what is wrong there? - Steven Hodson

Brad_King Yes, I was joking a bit, I've been an enthusiasic Scoble follower for quite a while. But those are some impressive titles you are working on! - Stephen Pickering

Steven: I like your critiques. I usually learn something about myself and usually learn that I'm not communicating clearly or I'm too far ahead of the pack and the pack is getting pissed off. - Robert Scoble

New babies. Ah, yes. Those may or may not have their schedules down just yet. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

And if you notice, I no longer import anything into FF. Why bother with the aggregation. I know where everything is and if you'd like to find all my stuff; check my Google profile. - Christopher Harley

On the other hand, when the pack gets pissed off for being left behind it usually is a problem with the pack, not with me. I've been through this before many times. - Robert Scoble

@Stephen: I've had some luck being around this stuff for awhile. I just prefer a different profile level :) I get to hear more. - Brad_King

Christopher: why did you come to that conclusion? - Robert Scoble

@Robert then I have succeeded .. thank you .. but equally so you keep me honest and on my toes .. plus I do learn a lot from you - Steven Hodson

FF has scaled to size large enough that I can just search for everything. I'm here to laugh and learn. - Christopher Harley

Christopher: that seems to be a mighty lame conclusion to come to. Especially since we can hide specific stuff from specific services. - Robert Scoble

Christopher: yeah, but what if we want to see what kind of music you're listening to, or your videos, or your Tweets, or your blogs? I am doing lots of searches and that's the kind of stuff I want to see from you here. - Robert Scoble

Oh, I used to import everything but for me, and that's the key, for me it works differently now. - Christopher Harley

There is always something be learned and nothing to lose. I always try to enjoy my time spent here. - ashish

Christopher: interesting, because what you import has nothing to do with you. It has to do with what WE see of you. - Robert Scoble

Brad_King Oh sure I understand. Everyone must go with the grain of their personality. Or else they won't be as happy and productive, and it sounds like you are very productive! - Stephen Pickering

I share all those things. - Christopher Harley

Christopher: oh, then I'm missuderstanding. What aren't you bringing in here anymore? - Robert Scoble

Robert: Whenever I want to post something that I listen to or watched, I search FF first and find someone else has already posted it, so I just like/comment, rather than duplicate (most times). It's a rare joy to find that someone else hasn't beaten me to the punch. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Oh Jeremy, what have you done? Tsk. Tsk. - Louis Gray

It aint hurting him any, Louis! - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

@Louis .. okay what took you so long?? :) - Steven Hodson

Louis: he did an advanced trolling technique that has been used here several times lately to get engagement. Unfortunately I think it'll only work about three more times before people just ignore anyone who complains they aren't getting enough comments. - Robert Scoble

@Stephen: I spent a few years in the Robert-lite shoes when I was at Wired News. Took away from my time building things. Plus, Robert does it *much* better than most. - Brad_King

The need to constantly display everything lost its importance. Maybe I'm selfish but I can take away all that I want and share only what is germane to sharing right at that moment. The bookmarklet remains HOT. - Christopher Harley

Brad: I am building things. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert - I work in Permits, and one of the clerks has a great saying about the way some people are. She said, "I can explain things to people, but I can't understand it for them." - Gary Etie

Brad_King well it sounds like you are doing very important work - Stephen Pickering

What is a "troll"? Am I a Scoble troll? - Stephen Pickering

@Robert: shush. I know you are. What you did is different than what we did. I didn't mean that in a negative way. @Stephen: important? hahaha. not at all. Curing cancer is important. I play with media. - Brad_King

Gary: good quote. Stephen: there's this thing called Google that I would love to introduce you to. :-) To everyone else, now I'm outta here cause I'm done with dinner and this was fun, but there's gotta be something else happening on friendfeed. :-) - Robert Scoble

That's right, there always is! - Christopher Harley

Brad_King well media is important, especially now! But I agree, there are different levels of "importance" - Stephen Pickering

wow... quite a bit happened over dinner it seems... if there were only THREADED comments, it would be so much easier for me to re-engage with anyone who said anything here. I'll have to do my best individually.... - Jeremy Toeman

/buckles seatbelt .. and the ride continues :) but I do agree about the threaded comments - Steven Hodson

Steven, sorry for the delay. The family (myself included) was at a real-lief wedding in Santa Cruz. - Louis Gray

@Robert funny, i both agreed and disagreed with your comments throughout, especially the ones where you talked on my behalf. re "trolling": meh, if that's your feel, whatever - I honestly didn't expect to see a conversation like this one emerge. re "ROI": in this case i really meant engagement with *anyone*, not just influencers... re "interestingness of my content": i think you cross... more... - Jeremy Toeman

hope you had a good time Louis :) - Steven Hodson

Jeremy, my twins can take more time than your baby. Let's talk. I can teach you. - Louis Gray

@Louis - i also have a 2 year old and run 2 companies... - Jeremy Toeman

and now i'm off to clean radishes from my garden (uninteresting, i know), then go watch a movie with the wife. real-time web, please have a good night, i look forward to seeing you again soon. oh, and i still stand by my original statement. :) - Jeremy Toeman

Jeremy: when you say stuff like this you gotta know that those of us who still are on the service will take it personally and spend a lot of time engaging on your item whether out of spite, fear, guilt, or just plain old "we feel like you just threw a pie in our face" reaction and we want to throw it back. That's why what you did was trolling. You should have known the reaction you'd... more... - Robert Scoble

I wasn't going to chime in on this thread because frankly, I'm pretty new to FF and was enjoying the discussion. But Scoble is right on with his last comment. Jeremy, the fact that you posted this on FF and not on Twitter or your blog, at least to me, shows you to be a tiny bit disingenuous. It's like showing up to someone's party and and instead of politely excusing yourself and leaving quietly, you take the stage and announce that this party sucks. You're bound to get a reaction. - James Poling

Was it just me, or did Jeremy not actually address anyone but Robert and Louis? Then again, perhaps the salient points came from them? Still, I find it interesting that someone who runs two companies and rubs shoulders with tech elite has radishes in his garden and cleans them, himself. It's not riveting, but something I can't overlook. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

@MiniMage .. it's not just you :) - Steven Hodson

MiniMage: Yeah, so much for all those other poor slobs and their ROI who came to comment on Jeremy's point. - James Poling

Jason, don't mean to sound flippant, but the "hide" option is your friend. I've also found friend-grouping to drastically reduce the noise in my friendfeed :) - Adam Lasnik

I guess I missed all the ego stroking. I thought some egos were getting punched up there, myself. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

@Minimage, Steven, James, etc - nobody else really addressed me directly in their comments (with something that needed dispute in one way or another - I didnt realy think I needed to tell someone who agreed with me that i agreed with them for agreeing with me). most of the rest of the comments circled around Robert's arguments, not mine... so i apologize to anyone who said something to me that was waiting on a response, but it just seemed like the conversation had moved along by then. - Jeremy Toeman

@Jeremy :) any points can easily get lost in FF comments which is why I agreed with you about the need for threaded comments - Steven Hodson

@James interesting that you'd take it that way. a little history for you: I was *very* active on FF when it first debuted, and remained so for months. as i (1) became utterly deluged with work, (2) spent a month in the hospital, and (3) the multiple-times-aforementioned babies, my ability to participate as an active member here went way down, roughly to NIL. so now i get no love in return - understandable. i'm not trying to spoil *your* party, I'm observing how there just isn't much of one for me... - Jeremy Toeman

Jeremy: Do you have some sort of target number of Likes or comments per hour you invest in FF that you'd consider an acceptable ROI? - Ken Sheppardson

If I post accidently on Thomas hawk account, it's a best of day, on my account, not so much. - Mrsth

@Jeremy: I was being slightly tounge-in-cheek, but I see your point. I have a one-year-old at home and a job that keeps me virtually locked down from about mid-February to mid-April. Because of both of those things there have been times this past year when much, if not all of my networking, blogging and microblogging completely falls off as well. You are right obviously that any... more... - James Poling

@Ken how about 7? just kidding. no, i dont have quite so strict the definition of "ROI" here that I think XX hours of liking, sharing, and commenting should return YY results. but, per James' last point, it's a belief/feeling that to make YY>0 will take a LOT of hours. - Jeremy Toeman

@ Jeremy, @Scobleizer That's why Robert is so good at what he does. Even when he does have those periods of away time (as he will in a few months) when he comes back he will throw himself head first into the deep end and quickly get back with the pack. That's his job so he is afforded that luxury. People like us on the other hand, while our jobs may be peripheral to what Robert does,... more... - James Poling

@James i think i'm going to call that response "bulls-eye" (the one with the "tongue-in-cheek" comment, which was the one i was responding to when the other one showed up mid-typing... yup, i sure would like threads please). - Jeremy Toeman

@Jeremy, awesome. Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya. :) (oh and yes, threads please!) I may start adding that as default ending all of my comments, please add threads. - James Poling

Jeremy, not to beat a very dead horse, but, again, there's nothing wrong with the quality of your contributions. There are people here who get huge response from announcing what they had for dinner. I think the "real-time" design changes and recent uptick in user numbers have forced the most-active users to retreat to lists in order to manage the flood of input. If you're a more casual... more... - Sprague D

It probably helps to have a gazillion followers, but I think Robert's point about being willing to go where the conversation is happening is the key to getting a return on your FF investment. Crowds will often gather around certain topics, influencers or funny cat pictures. Rather than trying to win over the people already following you, focus on comment threads where you can add to the conversation instead. - Davis Freeberg

@sprague - totally agreed with you on this, sorry for not ack'ing earlier - Jeremy Toeman

@davis - i'm really not trying to "win" anything... - Jeremy Toeman

This far I find FF to be more of a consumption destination than a publishing platform. Interesting thoughts from interesting people but few people I know personally. That's how twitter felt to me 2 yrs ago, difference being FF has actual threads of conversation vs Twitter as a collection of brain farts - Ryan Miller from Nambu

Jeremy, after reading thru the 17+ hours of conversation in this thread that started as I walked out the door last night (i kept tabs on it a bit thru the night) i'm still wondering what 'value' means to you. Was Scoblizer correct in stating that the value to you is where it helps you influence people with large audiences (or however he was stating it)? To me 'value' is very subjective. That seems to be what everyone's caught up on here. - Chris Heath

He who posts and likes shall be rewarded in kind. - Russ Jackson

true, and yet I value the social linking so much. - susan mernit

Russ, that simply isn't true. Several of us have been saying that we like/comment a lot and just don't get the responses back. Furthermore, pretty much like what Sprague said, there are people who can post "eekeek ackack" and get 40 likes and 50 comments, whereas if someone else posted the secret to being a success in life, it would never be noticed. Am I whining about it? I hope not, I just don't want everyone claiming that all FFers will get back what he/she puts in. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

There does seem to be a pretty steep climb into the secret FF kabal, and then once you are there you can maintain your status pretty easily, but if you fall through the minimum level of activity for any reason (such as real life, etc) you will have to re-climb the wall. Not perhaps a bad thing, but that at least is my impression. If work/life takes me away from FF it takes me a while to get noticed again after I get back. I think this might be a result of the nature of the new real-time paradigm. - matthew john ernisse

This having to be active lots in order to be noticed I do not understand. If I see something that interests me, it doesn't matter to me if the poster had been gone for a week. And as a counterpoint, some threads become big, simply because that person had been missing for a while, and people were excited so see something from them again. Is there some sort of algorithm for this? - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Maybe you should try to say something interesting. - Will Higgins™

Yes, that's what people keep saying. Yet people say things that are more interesting than what others who get noticed say (not all the time, granted). What makes someone else's "guess what movie I'm watching" picture more interesting than the ones that don't get noticed? I believe the answer is "nothing." Why should one person's shared YouTube video get no likes or comments, when someone else can post the same thing with no response? It's more complex than the cop-out, "Say something interesting" answer. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

If it was that simple, this conversation wouldn't exist or last so long. - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

@Chris - no, Robert's assumption of what I feel valuable was incorrect. While he is right in that a place where I could specifically remain connected with people in the CE industry *would* be valuable to me professionally, that actually was not part of my lament about FF. his assertion that I don't care about connecting with random folks of all walks of the Internet is way off in this case - Jeremy Toeman

@Jeremy it must be since you follow me :) :) - Steven Hodson

Bump... Looks like this one turned into a flame war to me.. - aerobroken

Jeremy, thanks for clearing that up. - Chris Heath

MiniMage: What you're describing/lamenting something that happens on just about any social sharing network with 'voting'. The first time I noticed this 'unfairness' was on digg.com when it started to get big in 2006. You will see the same type of complaints on digg: someone who's not as 'popular' submitted a story first, but another 'power user' submitted it after and it was promoted to the front page because of the power users's greater visibility... it's a shame and it's not fair - but that's life i guess - Chris Heath

I've edited the ^above^ post a couple times (if you're watching in real-time) - Chris Heath

Also, speaking of the problems with dupe submissions to digg: from what I understand about the future plans (and from the history of this issue) there will be (and have been) technological steps taken to get the dupe situation under control. - Chris Heath

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I gotta admit I keep the new friendfeed beta interface "Paused." Here's why:

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1. If it's Paused it works great on the iPhone. - Robert Scoble

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2. Movement is distracting and gets me to pay too much attention to it. - Robert Scoble

3. When I Pause the Interface it lets me digest what I'm looking at without feeling rushed. - Robert Scoble

4. It puts me in control of when new stuff comes into my view. - Robert Scoble

Sometimes i do, when i have many tabs open and busy - Majento

you have like 80k subs and it's a firehose, even with lists? - Josh Haley

Wait, the beta inferface is on the iPhone too????? - Roberto Bonini

Even on Nokia :-) - Majento

Is it just me though or when you unpause suddently everything is on the screen that you missed. The current RealTime starts scrolling things in but the beta UI just pops everything in with no relation to order. The more I use the beta UI the more i don't like it. :( - Paul Wade

I used it yesterday from my iphone while out walking a little, got sucked into Alex's What if post - Mark Essel

Haha...I started to read this but then it just scrolled on by. - Mark Krynsky

I got sidetracked from 4 directions from Robert's Zappo post. First to post on their coaches blog cause he just sounds cool, then zappos_major had to get a followfriday, then I had to apply for a job for my buddy that lives in Vegas and would fit in with their corporate culture perfectly, then.. I'll just shut up - Mark Essel

I guess I've gotta get some more subscriptions before I have to worry about this problem. - Aaron Kurtz

I found a few people to follow that are highly active (with likes etc) and then it starts flowing Aaron - Mark Essel

I always have my feeds in real time, but I have fairly few subscriptions so I don't run into any problems with it. - Erik Gulliksen

When I had digg and delicious plugged into friendfeed it made me self conscious of my spam (self promoting ego recognition). Friendfeeds full of awesomeness allows filtering the stuff out that you aren't concerned with - Mark Essel

I'm seriously considering paying a high school or college cheer leading squad to promote my posts on social crowd sourcing sites - Mark Essel

Who can resist a good cheer? (got blogging feedback from problogger's forums, great people there, who say my blog is a spooky animal wall of text) - Mark Essel

so robert, are you saying that the exact same feature that really had you sold "realtime web" is not digestive... completely entitled to change your mind, but i just want to understand if the "main" reason for you loving friendfeed before public launch of beta has proven to be not so useful when used for serious amounts of time (rather than as a demo of coolness?)... - simran

Simran: this is still the real-time web. Just refreshed manually. - Robert Scoble

So do you unpause when you are on specific lists which are hedged down and concentrated? What about long threads which end up becoming de facto chat rooms? - Mike Nayyar

I used Real-Time in the old UI--I love how mousing over an article effectively pauses the stream. If things are rolling by too quickly, 'Like' is my bookmark to look more closely later. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

I think real-time is great - if you have lists with only a few subscriptions and nobody who posts like crazy. Yes, it jumps around, but it always put the item with the last activity first, so you don't only see new entries, but also new comments. - Oliver Bouchard

I keep it paused only if I am there to control it -- I use the mouse over posting method of pausing. When I am ready to see some new stuff, I unpause to clear the accumlated changes. If I am not there or doing something else -- it may as well flow. I won't be able to digest it all anyway when I get back. When I get back to wanting to watch I pause again. - Brian Sullivan

robert: real time, yes, but no more real time than it was in 1991... or am i missing something? - simran

so you're not a real geek! :D - Francesco Marconi

I really dont like going real time on friendfeed. - tojfs7931

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Arrington on today's Gillmor Gang said no one is using friendfeed. I answered back "then explain why my feed is moving so fast." :-)

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He'd have to ACTUALLY USE it to know that. - Alex Scoble

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Arrington is an ass. - Eric @ CS Techcast

I'm not sure if Scoble's feed is the measure of the average FF user's feed speed.... - Jef

dude, you have like a million followers - Don Bonaddio

Arrington would have to actually use it first - LPH™ and his dog P™

Then why write about the new beta and break the embargo? - Kevin Whalen

What? I'm noone :) - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Scoble I don't think you should be the measuring stick. - WiseYoda (aka Patrick)

I think FriendFeed is beginning to become the place to go for the real-time web and I'm sure it's the point of the redesign. They have mastered (or are in the process of mastering) how this feed stuff works. Realtime event monitoring is on FriendFeed and no where else at the moment. - Brandon Titus

probably not the answer you're looking for...but it's because of all the content that is aggregated here (it posts whether or not people are using it) - just playing devils advocate :) - Jennifer Van Grove

http://spy.techcrunch.com maybe the reason why he said that? - Gavin

Is it bad that I agree with my brother? Friendfeed is pretty active today. Actually, I haven't noticed a slowdown in activity of late at all other than the usual weekend lull. - Alex Scoble

Robert: You held your own. Defended us all valiantly ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

What are you all doing here? You are supposed to be on Twitter! - Robert Scoble

Scoble, relatively speaking nobody is using Friendfeed, and it's not taking off. I think Silicon Alley Insider called it fairly. http://www.businessinsider.com/friendf... - Robert Seidman

it is because Twitter is down. :D - Rom Feria

Yep, Robert Seidman is right. But don't count Friendfeed out yet. Especially with the troubles Twitter has with each plateau of growth. - Dion Hinchcliffe

I think he was speaking relative to other services. I do think this will be a huge boost to Friendfeed. - Paul L. McCord Jr.

Gavin - I tried "arringtonsucks" in that field. - Larry Hudson

Let's show Arrington what nobody looks like http://beta.friendfeed.com/itblogg... - Alex Scoble

it's moving so fast because you follow _everyone_ and everyone has 1 or more feeds that goes into FriendFeed. - rob friedman

rob, my feed is updated quickly too and I'm not a top user. Robert is right on this one and Arrington is just speaking about something he doesn't use. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Rob: bullshit. I am standing in front of my hotel and this post has gotten 22 comments and tons of likes. There are a LOT of people using friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

In just a couple of minutes... - Robert Scoble

Robert: I know there is a lot, im just stating the obvious. there is a lot of people, and FriendFeed decided to real-time it up a bit. - rob friedman

I'm seeing a *ton* more activity today on my FF posts than usual. I also find it's much easier to use FriendFeed instead of TweetDeck to do my Twitter posts now - the character count is nice. - Jesse Stay

LOL, Robert I'm not sure Rob is right, but at this point your picture and your friendfeed picture and comment are well aligned. they are both distortions of reality. - Robert Seidman

Once FriendFeed hits critical mass then the onslaught will begin, and I will be thankful of the Filtering once I figure it out. :) - rob friedman

We should comment more on Mike's stuff. He'll rush sooner or later. - Jérôme Flipo

I assume he was meaning "no one" in comparison to the amount of activity he thinks twitter and facebook has. It's like how people say that no one plays EQ2 anymore even though its still like 500k. That's supposedly no one compared to the 11 million + WoW has. But yeah, he's just an ass in general. - Tony, Paradox of FF

pourmecoffee, that sounds suspiciously like a complaint that FF's user base skews towards higher IQs... ;-) - Karim

I have no idea what pourmecoffee is talking about. I talk about politics and see political posts all day long on friendfeed. It's why I'm so engaged by it. Twitter? You couldn't have a proper political discussion on Twitter if you even wanted to. - Alex Scoble

Alex, The conversation happens easier because there isn't any concept of threading in Twitter except when the engine catches an @reply. Imagine how easy it will be to start discussions about anything using the Jabber chat client. FriendFeed could start automatically generating MUC (multi-user chat) rooms, and give a jabber:// link - rob friedman

coffee, you are definitely following the wrong people here if you think that. - Alex Scoble

SPAM - Mike Nayyar

OK now you are confusing fun with media and political people with politics. There's plenty of fun and politics going on in friendfeed with REAL people as opposed to talking heads. As it should be. We don't need talking heads here when we can speak for ourselves. - Alex Scoble

You could also argue, depending on the sphere you survey, that nobody uses Twitter, Google Reader, Techmeme, TechCrunch or many other sites. In our bubble, we use all those. FriendFeed is being used, and it is getting more active. - Louis Gray

Is that Robert Seidman...on FriendFeed? Welcome back man! - Hutch Carpenter

Robert, you were awesome on GG today...thanks for making the arguments so well. - Karoli

Alex Scoble is now discriminating against the body-less... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

BTW in less than 20 minutes we've collected over 40 names here http://beta.friendfeed.com/itblogg... that's a lot of nobodies that are using friendfeed. - Alex Scoble

We don't need "stars" that just come on here and don't participate. We need real people having real conversations, which is exactly what we are getting. - Alex Scoble

Exactly Alex. Actual interaction. - Eric @ CS Techcast

Crowdsourced interviews really need upvotes. It would help if we could permalink and upvote individual comments in this and other FF threads. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Good one, Robert. :) - Meryn Stol

lol Arrington sucks big time - Keith Dsouza

+1 Daniel. ;) - Meryn Stol

All I want to say is, try having this kind of deep discussion on twitter. Just about an impossible task. - Eric @ CS Techcast

It's moving so fast because we're all obsessed nerds who constantly need to keep in touch AT LIGHT SPEED - Mike Nayyar

Um, why youyellin' at me? I thought we were just talking. - Eric @ CS Techcast

Why I pass on the Gilmor Gang - Robert Hafer

so where is the show file? is Gilmor editing the shit out of it---immediate gratification .... just upload the show, Steve? Arrington, the clueless pundit... - ChaoSurfer

yes, the speed of the auto scrolling really gives u a sense of how things are moving.. - erwinhuang

btw, bob, any plan on mobile version? or is it already out? iphone, symbian? - erwinhuang

the "web" appears to have a lot of "content" but if you eliminate all the spam ... is there really that much out there? it's not fair to say "no one is using friendfeed" but "there's so very little value in friendfeed" - it's a virtual water cooler, great for entertainment value and time suck, but that just makes it MySpace with a Web 2.0 UI. - Dossy Shiobara

That's why I don't listen to those people. I don' care about what they say or think. - Richard A.

I love Arrington's cynism because it makes people think? I understand where he is coming from because he is one type of FF user. I really don't think anyone gets FF yet. Bloggers kinda get it because they consume lots of information but they do not fully get it ... I feel like Scoble might have an idea, but as an early adopter he gets distracted defending shiny new things..someday i might spare the time to enlighten Arrington and the cynics. FF is going to change everything. - Tweet Feeds

I know why I hate this Arrington as much as he is hating Google. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

I've noticed people are using it more recently (the BETA appears to have increased activity too) - Nicholas James

But Robert, that's because you're subscribing to *everyone* on FriendFeed :) - Ian Betteridge

Ian: that is provably NOT true. :-) - Robert Scoble

You should try subscribing to everyone, just to see how fast the feed could really move! :) - Ian Betteridge

Arrington is completely wrong that are not too many using, but is growing. Look at me! Friend Feed arrives at brazil! I'm brazilian and I love Friendfeed and I'm showing to everyone that I know. - Rafael from twhirl

unfortunately, friendfeed - even though its technology is absolutely top - won't even scratch facebook or make friends of mine using it; can't upload photos, tag people in there.. can't have a detailed profile of yourself.. that's what most people are in for! if facebook only copied half of the stuff friendfeed offers, it would be nearly untouchable in the middle term.. i know, friendfeed doesn't want to compete with facebook, but given the fact its technology is state-of-the-art: why not try? - Johannan Edelman

Johannan Edelman, because simply their goal aren't the same - abdellah

FB first concern is users grow, when FF it is content - abdellah

ok abdellah, so what? ok, you don't want to become facebook, but that doesn't prevent you from taking over/copying some of facebooks stuff.. why not pulling up a true profile page like on facebook, for starters? - Johannan Edelman

cause johannan the approach diverge, in FB users profile means users typing data in a form in FF users profile is users stream. - abdellah

let take robert stream, robert service set, it define in a precise manner who robert is. it is even better then a short bio paragraph. - abdellah

abdellah: thing is: people would share much more content on FB, but their technology sucks; FF has the technology, so why not trying to attack FB, right now when they seriously failed with the new layout? - Johannan Edelman

yes, that's true for you and me, coz we know scoble (who doesn't in this tech-affine circle?) - Johannan Edelman

FB havn't failed my friend, they are opening their content to others. and without even taking celebrity example like robert, a look to my service give you as many profile as servie each service is attached to a profile. - abdellah

thing is: i use FB most of the time and i really struggle with it when i see the possibilities FF offers. for me, a mixture of FB and FF would be perfect! :) - Johannan Edelman

johannan hope they will do more :) - abdellah

I do like the new Twitter-like design - Kyle Austin

i know that FF has different goals than FB. but goals can change! FF right now is used mostly by tech-savvy people. their tech rocks, the possibilities of FF combined with FB's userbase would totally dominate! why not try to copy some of FB's features? would it hurt? nobody would be forced to use them (a full profile page for instance). FB right now seems vulnerable, and who knows if there might be a better chance of attacking the giant than right now! - Johannan Edelman

Good point, Johannan. We need to get rid of the idea, that everything can be run as it is forever. It has to attract more people in order to even get a chance for the FF-Team to make money one day. I don't think they want to work for the peace of us geeks forever. Maybe some will leave then, but that's okay, when thousand new joins for every single user that leaves. Hard, but well, it's like things are. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

Alex +1 - andy brudtkuhl

The superior Platform wins in the end. Example: Facebook vs. MySpace. - Garin Kilpatrick

Agree with Garin, like IP over other early protocols in first ages. - Guy Vander Heyden

no one? 240.000 people is not really no one... - Jorg Jansen

garin: what do you mean by "superior"? FF has technological superiority when it comes up to feeds and the way you are able to interact with other users real-time; but FB offers a much larger variety of services. and despite the different flaws, i think it's superior right now. btw: technological superiority never was a guarantee for success.. think of betamax vs. vhs, windows vs. apple at the beginning, and there are many many more.. - Johannan Edelman

So roughly a week later, has Arrington eaten his humble pie yet? I think this week especially he's been proven wrong. - George Hall (Australia)

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