Karoli - Comments

1.05 (670/633) - Micah Wittman from Bookmarklet

Can you remind me again where to find those stats? - Brian Johns

Brian, go to "Me" link (http://friendfeed.com/brianjo...) which defaults to the Feed tab. Look at the sidebar on the right, below Discussion. - Micah Wittman

0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here - mikepk

I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week! - Brian Johns

1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page) - Micah Wittman

OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals... - Brian Johns

3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like. - Cyrus Lendvay

FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in. - Micah Wittman from twhirl

0.79 - Brian Roy

0.77 - Eric @ CS Techcast

0.67 - Nine

0.77 - Shey, Jamaican of FF

0.76 - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

1.39. - Rochelle

1.80 - Brian Sullivan

1.61 - I only 'like' when I want to throw my support behind a topic but don't have anything constructive to add. - Bjorn Stromberg

1.12 - LogEx

1.41 - WorldofHiglet

5.08 (3181/626) ! - ◄ani625Ξ

2.41 - William Harryman

0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem. - Bren, Photophobe

0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments - Cee Bee

1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief! - Her Lindsay-ness

@Cee Bee I think you meant 0.62 - ◄ani625Ξ

1.27 (902/705) - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

yes, thanks for the correction. lindsay, you're making me feel bad. lol - Cee Bee

0.8576, I only like mostly when I'm going to comment - Mol, Time Warping

1.55 endlessly repeating. This Like/Comment included. - Dana D

before this comment: .69 I kid you not. - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)

So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both) - Micah Wittman

CSV_A: 1.05,0.75,1.44,0.81,3.74,0.79,0.77,0.67,0.77,0.76,1.39,1.8,1.61,1.12,0.141,5.08,2.41,0.66,.39,0.62,.62,1.27,0.8576,1.551,0.69 - Micah Wittman

1.83 - Grant Bierman

I tend to like allot of photos which really don't need comments. - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)

InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks! - Micah Wittman

.37 1002/2708 - Michael Fidler

this is what scobes walls would like if he didnt have FF - sean percival

I haven't seen Marc Canter's fabled fence (just heard about it), but I imagine this but on wood pickets :) - Micah Wittman

This week: 2.48 (1162:467) but this is not the norm, my likes usually match or are higher than comments, overall: 0.95 (14228:14846). - Kol Tregaskes

Thanks Michael, Kol! I'll recalculate average/median when we build up some more data points here. - Micah Wittman

1.03 748/723 - Keith - @tsudo

.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link. - Mitchell Tsai

Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots) - Micah Wittman

1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up. - Tyson Key

*bump* - Micah Wittman

0.51 - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Thanks, Mark! - Micah Wittman

Thanks Spidra! - Micah Wittman

0.95 (1520/1604) - it's 2+ months later, and my ratio flipped (more Likes by .05) - Micah Wittman

.7 (1204/1724) - before this comment at least. - Rachel Lea Fox

Thanks, Rachel! - Micah Wittman

3.46 (3665/1057) before this comment and like. - Kevin Fox

Thanks, Kevin. 3+ is quite the comment on your commenting activities :) - Micah Wittman

I've got stuff to say. - Kevin Fox

3.98 (900/226) - Richard Lawler

1.02 (3538/3484) for sofarsofarshaun - Micah Wittman

.34 (600/1747, not counting this comment) - Michael Hocter

Thank you, Siavash and Michael - Micah Wittman

.52 overall, but .68 this week. - Rebecca

Nice, thanks Rebecca. - Micah Wittman

1.31 - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

0.56 - imabonehead

Rah and imabonehead - rock on! (Richard too!) - Micah Wittman

0.16 - Anne Bouey

1.39 - jcunwired

4.62 (287/62) -- Yikes! I'm chatty. - Ted Roden

Thank you kindly, Anne, jcunwired and Ted. - Micah Wittman

2.63 - Bryce, Low in Sodium

Thanks for joining in, Bryce. - Micah Wittman

.15 all time, .13 this week. - Alix Whitmire

.52 - David HC Soul

Thank you, Alix and David! (and Alix, you're tied with Siavash for the Highest Like ratio. Wow). - Micah Wittman

2.94 - j1m

Thank you, j1m. Ok, I'm gonna roll this up into a csv and call it a night. - Micah Wittman

CSV_B: 0.95,0.7,3.46,3.98,1.02,0.15,0.34,0.52,1.31,0.56,0.16,1.39,4.62,2.63,0.15,0.52,2.94 - Micah Wittman

this week = 0.45%, alltime = 6.43% - chaz2b

CSV_B Mean: 1.49 (previous mean for CVS_A: 1.27) - Micah Wittman

Of course the numbers can easily lie, but I'm gonna say it anyway: "We're getting more conversational, people!" - Micah Wittman

0.49 (493/988) - Bluesun 2600

816 / 2502 = 0.326139089 overall | 50 / 233 = 0.214592275 this week I like much more than I comment. (maths via google) - Chris Loft

3026/5013 = 0.6036 - Roger Chen

0.107 probably the lowest here - Nicholas James

chaz2b, Bluesun 2600, Roger, Nicholas — thank you! - Micah Wittman

.76 - jamar78

5.25 but I don't know what this *means, yet. maybe I'm just stingy with my "likes" compared to others? - Marg Uerite

Thanks jamar78 and Marg! - Micah Wittman

A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology.... - David HC Soul

My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39 - David HC Soul

*bump* - Micah Wittman

1.26 (2965/2346) - Micah Wittman

1.37 - Glen Campbell

1.74 - ♥patricia♥

Thanks, Glen and pea! - Micah Wittman

Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others). - Micah Wittman

.38 - Ryan Dadey

Ryan, I have to say, that's one high caliber ratio ;) - Micah Wittman

An update it's .44 which is an improvement from .36 - Michael Fidler

2.00 - Anthony Citrano

0.97 - Willem (@wim66) ☠

1.5 exactly - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

2.94 1040/354 I have likes set to post to twitter automatically, so I'm careful with them. :) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

0.85 - Steven Perez

0.73 up from 0.66 on Jan 08 - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

0.37 for the week past, 0.45 on the whole. - Parth Awasthi

Michael, Anthony, Ahsan, guruvan Steven, sıɹɥɔ and Parth - thanks for dropping in your stats! - Micah Wittman

5.81 i'm not using it as does everyone else here. that is fer sure. - Marg Uerite

But remember, the comment counts also includes comments imported from other services. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Ahsan, huh, I'd never considered that. - Micah Wittman

17942/30571=.59 - Alex Scoble

Alex, thank you, sir. - Micah Wittman

ALmost 2:1 exactly. - Amani

Much obliged, Amani. - Micah Wittman

3062/5777 you do the maths. - Will Higgins™

.53 (3062/5777) for Will Higgins #math-on-demand-services - Micah Wittman

Thank you, amin/gnu - Micah Wittman

2671/12333=.21 - Darren Heydon

7.16 - Ken Sheppardson

*bump* (SEE ALSO http://friendfeed.com/jungleg... ) - Micah Wittman

1.45 (4374/3026) - Micah Wittman

1.73 - Aron Michalski

0.92 now. I think the movie reviews have been getting me closer to a 1 to 1 ratio. - Steven Perez

0.77 - Mathew A. Koeneker

Steven, yep, you were a 0.85 in April. - Micah Wittman

2.10 now ... - Amani

0.97 now. - Eric Johnson

Amani, so your comments have climbed a bit. - Micah Wittman

Thanks, Eric. - Micah Wittman

yes, but i am not consciously "not liking" things - Amani from IM

Probably, just chattier then :) - Micah Wittman

I'm down from 7.16 to 6.94 :-) - Ken Sheppardson

the live NBA playoff threads have ALOT to do with it. - Amani from IM

Ken, the FCC may be interested to explore how your "I'm down" may be offensively self-deprecating ;) - Micah Wittman

.56 eeep, must try harder - Threepwood

4.52. I don't bother to like things I've commented on, since commenting already flags it as interesting. - Andy Bakun

0.46 (1698/3638) - Glenn Slaven

Threepwood, Andy, Glenn - thanks (Andy, that's my mo too; then I'll Like if it warrants a "double vote"). - Micah Wittman

1.31 (4,471/3,401) - Karoli

Thanks, Karoli. And the both of us have a _very_ similar ratio and absolute numbers. wow. - Micah Wittman

1.15 ! Noisy... need more liking, I guess. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

Thanks, Ryo! - Micah Wittman

Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy> - Andy Bold

Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81) - Micah Wittman

In March the Mean was: 1.49 - Micah Wittman

1.021276595744680851063829787234042553191489361702127659... via Wolfram Alpha - tom murphy

Thanks, tom. And though a bit verbose, your friend Wolfram is resourceful :D - Micah Wittman

0.55 (254/444) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

Thank you, Willem. - Micah Wittman

In April you were 0.97, so you're liking more / commenting less. - Micah Wittman

1.88 (779/414) - Ton Zijp

Thanks, Ton. - Micah Wittman

0.43 (3597/8305). - Parth Awasthi

0.74 (1970/2667) - Scott of Two Countries

And thank you Parth, Scott. - Micah Wittman

Parth, compared to your April numbers, you've been consistent. - Micah Wittman

2.12 is my ratio. - Rick Cogley

Thanks, Rick! - Micah Wittman

Np Micah. What is that photo? - Rick Cogley

.54 (4148/7674) Updated! - Michael Fidler

Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :) - Micah Wittman

Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!) - Micah Wittman

1.82 from 798 comments / 438 likes - David Damore

Thanks, nivé and David! - Micah Wittman

2027/1594 = 1.27 - Brome

0.58 - Marc Dong

2.9 (3,242/1,116) mhhh.. time to straighten my use of FF a bit.. thanks for this entry - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Brome, Marc and Thierry - thank you! - Micah Wittman

Thierry - yeah, 2.9 is fairly high - got to pick the pace on like side :) [but hey, whatever works for you is fine] - Micah Wittman

Stats Update: Last time I commented here my comment to like ratio was 0.107 it's increased to 0.645 ;) - Nicholas James

1.91 - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

Thank you Nicholas and MiniMage! - Micah Wittman

Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas. - Micah Wittman

.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good! - Michael Fidler

1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me. - Micah Wittman

It's that time again. - Micah Wittman

.50 - DO ANYBODY NO Laura B.

Thanks, Laura! (you're a 50-caliber gal!) - Micah Wittman

0.64 - Imabug

Thank you, Imabug. - Micah Wittman

4.67 (I'm greedy :p) - directeur

0.99 - Steven Perez

About 1:2 comment to likes at this time - RAPatton from iPod

1.06 - Jim Hearts FF

.81 - Brent - Long Live Rock

.63 - metalerik

Thanks Imabug, directeur, Steven, RAPatton, Jim, Brent and metalerik! - Micah Wittman

.83 - Jimminy

0.78 - Pete Delucchi

.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments. - Bren, Photophobe

.11 - The Bohemian Penguin

And thank you Jimminy, Pete, Bren and Penguin! - Micah Wittman

2.47 as of right now. - Jonas, Leper of FF

Micah, are you doing something with these numbers? If so sounds interesting. - Jimminy

0.58 - James (!?)

Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it. - Micah Wittman

Jonas, James and Kurt - thanks you! - Micah Wittman

You're welcome. I hope the results do some good. :-) - James (!?)

.31. I have almost 4 times as many likes as comments. - edythe

.86 - Eric Logan

Thank you edythe and Eric! - Micah Wittman

195/245 makes 0.8 rounded not including this one which would be 196/245 making 0.8 unrounded, - tom murphy

Thanks, Tom. - Micah Wittman

1.98 (588/297) - Bryan Zirkel

1.67 (19,550/11,684) - Mitchell Tsai

1:2 - Jeff P. Henderson

Bryan, Mitchell and Jeff P. - thanks, guys! - Micah Wittman

1.18 - it's always been close to 1, since day one, for some reason. - Laura Norvig

Wow, Penguin is a prolific liker! - Laura Norvig

2.67 (875/328) - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF

Thank you, Nathalie! - Micah Wittman

2.18 - Spidra Webster

1.29 - Mark Jepsen

Thanks, Spidra and Mark! - Micah Wittman

0.49 - Jammy Lee

0.825 - Mathew A. Koeneker

Jammy and Mathew, thank you very much. - Micah Wittman

2.16 - SuezanneC Baskerville

I don't know I just like that picture - Brian Hendrickson

.40 - Ben Hanten

Mine was exactly 2:1 about a week ago. Did a screenshot when I had 2,000 comments and 1,000 likes. - Joe.... from iPod

SuezanneC, Brian, B E N and Joe - thank you all very much! - Micah Wittman

Joe, it's like see the odometer click through a nice round number - it's just inexplicably engaging. :) - Micah Wittman

1.40, nearly the square root of two. - Vezquex: God of FF

0.58 - Andy Bold

Thanks, Raphael and Andy! - Micah Wittman

1.15 (6777/5873) - JA Castillo

12.23 (844 / 69 ) I guess I take my likes seriously ;) - Chris Myles

1.63 - Serkan Mutlu

Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!! - Chris Myles

.87 - Nine

Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine! - Micah Wittman

0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!) - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments).. - Chris Myles

1.78 (8529/4782) - Micah Wittman

Likes are down relative to comments, which matches my much lower frequency of liking. I'm a more selective liker than ever. - Micah Wittman

0.9009 (6055/6721) - Jason Huebel

OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF? - Jason Huebel

I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience. - Micah Wittman

So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is. - Jason Huebel

Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too. - Jason Huebel

383/372 - ashish

'Just clicking "Like" seems too easy' — Jason, that's because you're from the Chatty-ite tribe :) - Micah Wittman

Thanks, ashish. - Micah Wittman

wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff) - chaz2b

chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered? - Micah Wittman

When I first saw this: 1.91 Sept 28: 1.94 - MiniMage, sheeple of FF

536 comments in the last month has me at .8736...still creeping toward 1.00 - Bren, Photophobe

.64 - Shannon Jiménez

Thanks, MiniMage (2x participant!), Bren (3x!) and Shannon (your inaugural visit!) - Micah Wittman

Thank you, SustainedEuphoria. - Micah Wittman

I 'liked" this to change my ratio! (1.22 1040/850) - Mark Jepsen

Thanks, Mark. - Micah Wittman

1.45 - Brett Kelly

Thanks, Brett :) - Micah Wittman

5.67 all time. Second highest ratio on here. Woot! I love to talk. - Kevin L

0.125, I need to talk more ;) - mridul

Thank you both, Kevin and mridul (the two of you balance it each well :) - Micah Wittman

1.80 (10,189 / 5,666) [compared to Likes, my Comments still continue to rise] - Micah Wittman

1.02 (10323/10161) - Bren, Photophobe

.5666 currently (30,084/53,093) - Alex Scoble

Thanks, Bren. - Micah Wittman

Thank you, Alex :) - Micah Wittman

that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while... - Bren, Photophobe

Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically. - Micah Wittman

true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better. - Bren, Photophobe

1.8 - Sarah is Novembery

4.26? - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

Thanks, Sarah, Tutivillus. - Micah Wittman

1.19 - Joe Bonner

Micah this is like 11 months ago, I see you have almost doubled yours rate. lets make graph for everybody now, :) - Mahmood Padura

Quick, someone write a greasemonkey script to inline some google charts! (tap-tap-tap...wut? don't look at me ;) - Micah Wittman

Thanks, Joe. And you thank you, Mahmood :) - Micah Wittman

1.66 - Glen Campbell

Thanks, Glen! Your comments in the ratio have gone up too. - Micah Wittman

1.70 (it was 1.41 on Jan 8) - WorldofHiglet

WorldofHiglet, thank you :) The comments are strong in this one. - Micah Wittman

0.64 (2,589/4,051) - Chieze Okoye

0.58 - Thomas Page

Chieze and Thomas - thank you! - Micah Wittman

In memory of - Todd Hoff from iPhone

119 more comments

"We congregate to watch the Marriage of" Too Long? - Jimminy

LOL @Todd Hoff. "Congratulations" would probably do just fine. - Jim Hearts FF

<marquee>Cassie + Alex 12/12/2009</marquee> - Curtiss Grymala

It should say "Holiday Congratulating," like a wonderful item I once spotted at a Walmart. - DO ANYBODY NO Laura B.

lol @ Todd.............priceless - VAL D.

GET RICH FAST http://alexandcassie.com - Glen Campbell

"Achievement Unlocked:" - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

"YOU'RE MINE NOW!" - Mo Kargas

+100 Johnny - Glen Campbell

FFUNDERCATS HOOOOO!!!!!! - Mathew™ one of a kind

I like Johnny's suggestion...doesn't pass the Cassie test, however. :( - Alex Scoble from IM

My idea is "OUR ADVENTURE BEGINS" - Alex Scoble

"End Of Side 1, Please Turn Over The Cassette" - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

Hmm, needs more...geekiness - Mo Kargas

Needs less, Mo. - Alex Scoble from IM

"Marriage... The Final Frontier" - Her Lindsay-ness

"All ABOARD!" - Her Lindsay-ness

Chick-a-bow-wow - Chris Greene

"We just saved a ton of money on car insurance by switching to Geico" - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF) from iPhone

Chico's Bail Bonds - Christopher Harley

01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110100 00101110 00101110 00101110 - Mathew™ one of a kind

"Abandon all hope, Ye Who Enter Here." - Her Lindsay-ness

*corn module engaged* "Together Forever" - Mo Kargas

"Long live and prosper" - Jesse Stay

"Alex + Cassie 4eva" written in the shape of a heart - sofarsoShawn

"This Ceremony Proudly Sponsored by Monster Cable" - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

"<3" - Jesse Stay

"No Spitting" - Her Lindsay-ness

Congratulations - sofarsoShawn

"To Our Glorious Future" - Mo Kargas

"To Infinity, AND BEYOND!" - Her Lindsay-ness

"She blinded me with science." - Internet's Tad

DO ANYBODY NO - Akiva Moskovitz

"Ooh, eeee, ooh, ahh-ahh, ting, tang, walla-walla bing-bang" - Her Lindsay-ness

EXTREME TREPINATION - Internet's Tad

Akiva WINS! - Her Lindsay-ness

"Your message here" - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

1UP Akiva - Derrick

Batteries Not Included - Internet's Tad

"All ye who enter herein abandon all hope" - sofarsoShawn

"Maywage, bwessed maywage. Maywage is what bwings us togevvuh today. Wove, Twue wove..." - Christopher Harley

LOL, Akiva..."DO ANYBODY NO Y THESE 2 R GETTING MARRIED?" - Alex Scoble

:P sofarsoShawn. I did that one ;) - Her Lindsay-ness

WHOooops, long thread, missed it..great minds think a like :D - sofarsoShawn

"MARRIED IN" *digital clock counting down to the moment* - Mo Kargas

"Silica gel: do not eat" - Her Lindsay-ness

Followed by Tractor Pulling - Internet's Tad

OPEN BAR - Internet's Tad

"CAUTION: WET FLOOR" - Her Lindsay-ness

"You are probably being live-streamed by my brother" - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

Proceed with Caution - Internet's Tad

"CAUTION: SLOW CHILDREN AT PLAY" - Her Lindsay-ness

"DING! Leveled up!" - Her Lindsay-ness

<And Two Stealthed Rogues> - Internet's Tad

"Two souls and one thought, two hearts and one pulse. " - Mo Kargas

"Now, let's get DRUuuunKKKK" - sofarsoShawn

HELP! I'M STUCK IN THIS MARQUE!! - Internet's Tad

"Love is the dawn of marriage, and marriage is the sunset of love" - Mo Kargas

Live Laugh Love ~ all caps - sofarsoShawn

Umm, yeah...it's a marquee...of course it will be all caps - Alex Scoble

"Pew Pew Pew" - sofarsoShawn

"Veni, vidi, vici" - Mo Kargas

"@myformergirlfriends... SUCK IT!" - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

"Follow me on Twitter" - sofarsoShawn

Comment || Like || Hide ? - Karoli

"BELIEVE IT, OR NOT!" - Her Lindsay-ness

Haha Karoli, that is the best. - joey

"bodog.com" - SAM

BLAMEDREWSCANCER - Alex Scoble

"To be continued...in bed" (like a fortune cookie - sofarsoShawn

VINI, VIDI, VICI - Internet's Tad

TOO SLOW TADZILLA - Mo Kargas

Livin' The Dream - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

I started a new thread in the Inappropriate Discussions room for the really good ones. - Internet's Tad

Party On! - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF

SQUEEEEEEEEE - Rodfather

I'm a PC - sofarsoShawn

"Brooks was here" - Joe Pierce

ROFL - Alex Scoble from IM

Haha Joe - Rodfather

My Wife Now (a la League of Gentlemen: http://www.youtube.com/watch...) - WorldofHiglet

how about "DOMO!!!11!!!!!1!!!!" - Joe Pierce

A VERY SPECIAL WEDDING EPISODE - Steven Perez

MAWWAGE ...IS WHAT BWINGS US TOGEVA TODAY ... http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Bren, Photophobe

Hehe -Princess Bride + Peter Cook = WIN! - WorldofHiglet

On this episode of Bridezillas... - Jill is sugar free

Now now, Cassie could never be a bridezilla :) - Alex Scoble

I wasn't referring to her. ;-) - Jill is sugar free

Hey...say what now? I WANT MY WEDDING TO BE PERFECT AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME! - Alex Scoble from IM

LOL - Jill is sugar free

How about "DO ANYBODY NO WHERE DA CAKE IS AT." - Danny Minick

Oh...how about THE CAKE IS NOT A LIE - Alex Scoble from IM

OPEN BAR HERE - Jill is sugar free

or "Yo Scobles... I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Beyonce had one of the best weddings of all time!" - Danny Minick

Whoa. Your wedding day is the same as my parents. I'm kinda freaked out now. - Kevin Pedraja

You better eat your brocolli, Kevin! - Alex Scoble from IM

"T41s W3dd1ng 1s 1337 n 1t pwn5 y0ur5." - Danny Minick

"THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAA" - sofarsoShawn

Don't you wish your wedding was hot like this? - Jeremy

"Dropping Love Since" - CW™

"DO ANYONE NO WHY WE DIDN'T DO THIS SOONER?" - CW™

"All your wedding days belong to us" - CW™

"Too Love and Beyond... " - CW™

"A fatal exception OE has occurred at..." - Jeremy

"Windows needs your permission to continue." - Danny Minick

404 NOT FOUND - Jill is sugar free

"TURN LEFT" - Steven Perez

"BAD WOLF" - Steven Perez

"EXTERMINATE" - Steven Perez

Sponsored by FUBU! - Carlos Ayala

"PLAY THEM OUT, KEYBOARD CAT" - Sarah is Novembery

BROUGHT TO YOU BY BOSE. - Steven Perez

LCD Vs PLASMA: THE ULTIMATE FACE/OFF! - WorldofHiglet

This wedding is brought to you by the letter "S". - Kevin Pedraja

Solve this equation: - Cristo

YOU CAN DIVIDE BY ZERO - Alex Scoble from IM

Cassie > Alex 12/13/09 - Otto

WELCOME TO THE HOTEL CALIFORNIA. - Steven Perez from IM

"Who has four thumbs and just got married? These guys... " - CW™

I don't check it like that. Either I go to the fan page or I see it as it scrolls by in my news feed. - Spidra Webster

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That's how I do it too--I ask because not everyone is as web-centric, so info placed on a fan page would simply be lost to them. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

I do it when I'm clearing alerts,but am far more likely to pick it up in the news feed. - Karoli

Karoli & Spidra--That's what brings into question the effectiveness of a fan page vs possible a FB Group. If I receive a message via my FB Inbox--I'm far more likely to see it than an update that crossed the Live Stream in my absence. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

If you're comfortable with Friendfeed, you should use it. There's no rule saying Twitter is the be-all...in fact, Twitter is once again thumbing their nose at their community. The latest LinkedIn linkage is evidence of how little they understand their own product. - Karoli

God speed. - Sarah is Novembery

Wow, be safe. I'm not sure whether to congratulate or console you. - Karoli

in my prayers.......... - VAL D.

Good Luck keep your head down - WarLord

"Today, however, three days after his improbable victory, Cao is the toast of the Republican Party, hailed as the future of the GOP by no less than House Minority Leader John A. Boehner of Ohio." - Karoli from Bookmarklet

Don't give in so easily! - hardknoxfirst

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Wtf are they thinking? - Karoli from BuddyFeed

Did you make more than 1000 updates today? That's the stated limit: http://help.twitter.com/forums... - TxVoodoo

Are you kidding? That's ridiculous! - Trish R

wow fight,that's not right!!!You have my support!! - aaidjs

Geez o petes! That's nuts! - Laserone

It doesn't sound like censorship per se. More like the bartender cutting you off. But I'm on your side. Did you see this: "Update on Oct 13, 2009: We are experiencing an issue with update limits. Our engineers are working on it. Hang in there!" http://help.twitter.com/forums... - Micah Wittman

it's probably a technical glitch right? that is a huge number of updates per day, although still the question remains, why should the limit exist at all? - Mike Chelen

if it's a glitch, it's not presented as one. It's presented as hitting a specified (but not described) daily limit. - Karoli

either an error or it should say the hourly status limit, since http://twittercounter.com/compare... shows a large difference from the daily limit - Mike Chelen

And if you are not wanting to get marketed to? - Cristo

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You need to than unfollow those users...:)) Twitter is a lot more about broadcasting and getting followers is like a drug.. the more you broadcast the more followers you get :) - Bindu Reddy

Are you getting high right now? :) - Cristo

Getting followers doesn't really mean anything: 390 of the 400 followers I have on Twitter never act or do anything with what I say on it. Getting them to convert is the meaningful part of the marketing proposition, and conversations, I've found, are far more effective at that. - Mark Trapp

Mark is right. - Robert Scoble

So, what's the FAQ for interaction on Twitter? I had a post that got 100+ comments the other day here on Friendfeed but no response on Twitter. I must be doing something wrong over there. - Eric @ CS Techcast

twitter seems to be great for people who are lazy and not really savvy about marketing. it's sort of like shouting into the void, and you might get a few people to respond, but do you really get people to act? - Bren, Photophobe

@Mark, I agree with you.. However to a lot of people having a follower number like 10K/20K, which seems like a relatively easily thing to do on Twitter, is not only just a high but it is also a good way to keep in touch with your audience without spending too much time... Here keeping in touch with your audience is way more time consuming - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, but keeping in touch doesn't mean anything if they're not listening. You can have a million followers, but if you're not getting any of them to act on what you're saying, it doesn't mean much. Getting conversations going with people, who may or may not be followers, which Twitter is pretty bad at, are more effective at getting people to convert. I just had a relatively popular... more... - Mark Trapp

Bindu, I'm following you (FF) and I just commented too :) - Micah Wittman

@Mark, Curious how did you get them to go to your website? - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, if I knew that I'd have it made. Near as I can tell, people were doing Twitter and Google searches for "twitter list," and then started retweeting it and sharing it from there. - Mark Trapp

Following is such a low-risk endeavor that people don't put thought into it: they'll follow anyone and everyone. You even have people thinking it's common decency to automatically follow people if they follow you without even thinking about if their content is interesting. Following is the 21st century equivalent of receiving a phone book or the yellow pages: you do it just in case you need to contact or get ahold of someone in the future, but nobody ever realistically does. - Mark Trapp

Yep, it's like collecting business cards that get neatly filed into a big binder. It's about the self-satisfaction of the collection - you feel more connected / networked / important and avoid doing the hard work of cold calling or meeting with people and building something or whatever. - Micah Wittman

I agree with following being a low-risk effort... However I have also heard of ppl gaining value from Twitter without much effort. Take for example this coffeshop I am a big fan of - sightglass coffee. They get a lot of customers from Twitter. It takes them relatively little time to tweet and they get customers. It would be very hard to achieve the same on FF. - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, I get lots of conversation on Twitter, too. One of the reasons I am there more than here is because people with common interest in my political obsessions are there, but not here. - Karoli

Karoli - Yes, the Twitterverse is way more diverse than the FFverse. Curious do you get more comments/conversations per post on Twitter as compared to FF or is it that you you post more stuff because time spent per post is lower on Twitter - Bindu Reddy

Bindu, I get very little response to political conversations/comments on FF - a couple of folks follow here but a very small percentage compared to twitter. I tried to pull people over here, but they didn't understand why they should leave tweetdeck and their twitter setup for new territory. - Karoli

Geeks (+ early adopters, influential folks, the elite ...) are on FriendFeed and the proletariat on Twitter? Long live the dictatorship of the proletariat? Calls for action work best when the audience actually cares, so prolly that's all about choosing the right medium for the targeted punters? - Sebastian

Sebastian... yes agree the geeks and tech bloggers are on FF... However if you are marketing say a fashion or beauty blog. You won't get much interest here. twitter is the place for you :) - Bindu Reddy

I disagree with that statement, Bindu. There's a LOT of non-tech getting traction on FriendFeed. So much so that it's the number one reason Scoble no longer enjoys being here: he says he doesn't see enough tech for his liking. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Just butting in here to mention that there are tons of uses for both twitter and friendfeed that have nothing whatsoever to do with marketing. In fact, once could make the argument that social networks such as these were designed to get away from marketing. Unlike radio, TV, or even a web search, you choose who you'll be receiving information from. If you're looking to exchange... more... - Mr. Gunn

Marketing, schmarketing. - Christopher A Carr

Bindu, what I'm sick of is marketers broadcasting their sales pitches to all social media outlets out there, regardless whether the audience might fit or not. Anyways, i'ts possible to attract a few somewhat intelligent responses to geeky topics at Twitter, at least when xmas and independence day share the same date. Most probably I wouldn't try to sell wonder bras at FF, though. - Sebastian

@Tina ... umm I have not been an avid user of FF lately so maybe it has become pretty diverse. Are you saying there are a lot of people on here with specific interests such as politics, beauty etc? - Bindu Reddy

Sebastian - LOL.. agree :) - Bindu Reddy

Bindu: Ning is a better place to go if you have very specific topics you want to talk about. They are growing a FriendFeed every 12 days (they are getting a million new users that often and have just passed 38 million registered). FriendFeed is fun if you aren't sure what you want to chat about and you're cool with seeing lots of family pictures and goofy stuff. Tina is right that the hard-core geeks are mostly on Twitter or Facebook now, I keep watching here, though. - Robert Scoble

Karoli I get all kinds of action here on political topics. I have more followers on Twitter but rarely get a response there. Here I got 80+ comments yesterday. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

MVB, Karoli is a prolific voice on twitter. Twitter seems quite effective for political advocacy/activism even though longer form convos have to break out somewhere else. Also, just like friendfeed, volume / steady presence can make all the difference. Your tweet count is ~2K; Karoli's over 63K. - Micah Wittman

My presence here is similar to Kaoli's on Twitter, then. So, presence is a mitigating factor. But, Micah, as you so deftly point out, for a long conversation there needs to be a move to another venue. That's where here works better, since it can stay right here. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

We agree, and can agreed at length right here, folks :) - Micah Wittman

So link your twitter to your friendfeed. Get followers and comments. The best of both worlds. - Hareesh Nagarajan

Does it make any difference here whether the original post was to Twitter and reposted here automatically or the original post was directly here? In other words, does the FF community prefer to comment on direct posts rather than Twitter reposts? - Jimmy Walker

Jimmy: it honestly depends on who you interact with on FriendFeed. There are people who get irate about people only posting to Twitter and openly advocate using FriendFeed directly, and yet, there are interesting people who always get a conversation going around their tweets. One thing that sometimes helps is coming back to FriendFeed and elaborating on your tweet, or to do more than... more... - Mark Trapp

Mark, that sounds like good advice. Thanks. - Jimmy Walker

Should be a good show. Craig Burton always has something interesting to say. - Cliff Gerrish

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Waiting for call. - Robert Scoble

Looking forward to the show. - Matt Mastracci

A fellow Utahn - I will be watching :-) - Jesse Stay

hmmm. silverlight plugin just went kerfluey on me...let's see if it works now. - Karoli

Still waiting for skype call... - Robert Scoble

Looks like we're very close to start. - Robert Scoble

ah..working now. - Karoli

Chris Messina is on too. - Robert Scoble

Yay Phil and Craig! Two of my favorite Utahns - Jesse Stay

Robert's pretty close to having a "lair" there... - Ken Sheppardson

LIve from @ribbit http://bit.ly/Spawn on Gillmor Gang - Kevin Marks

robert, i can't imagine going from that to an iphone. your head must explode daily. - Karoli

Twitter.com FTW! - Jesse Stay

Actually, I use e-mail for most of my Twitter activity - Jesse Stay

Robert's head exploding is all part of the show. - Cliff Gerrish

You guys should be sure to talk about the new Paypal identity proposals - Jesse Stay

Karoli: info density is pretty crazy! Jesse: I got some good interviews on that yesterday. Should be up on Building43 next week. - Robert Scoble

where are they again? - Christopher Harris

Phil and Chris are at http://www.internetidentityworkshop.com - Ken Sheppardson

thx - Christopher Harris

I love how all the Identity pieces are fitting together now with OpenID+OAuth Hybrid, WebFinger and XRD and Activity Streams and PoCo at #iiw this week - Kevin Marks

IIW was great this year. - Cliff Gerrish

Robert, I'm getting more info on it as well - they want to be much more open than it appeared in the keynote - Jesse Stay

Jesse: I will try to introduce PayPal's identity moves into this conversation. Also, what @marcglasberg http://icents.net is doing to turn Twitter into a micropayments system for content. - Robert Scoble

Robert, missed what @marcglasberg is doing - can't wait to hear more - Jesse Stay

Someone tell Craig to turn the sounds off on his TweetDeck ;-) - Jesse Stay

and tell them I said hi from the chat (I don't think they're watching this) - Jesse Stay

"Open ID threat level Orange?" - Rob La Gesse

OpenID is just putting on long pants, a shirt and a tie. - Cliff Gerrish

says @chrismessina the Govt is encouraging people to use OpenID as most people have them already. - Kevin Marks

Badfinger or Webfinger? - Cliff Gerrish

Email seems like a bad identifier. - Cliff Gerrish

http://webfinger.org - it is a protocol to map an emial address into an OpenID endpoint - works with gmail and yahoo already - Kevin Marks

Just ran into this on stackoverflow.com... they have logos for 10 different OpenID providers or your own URL and I think I have IDs on 8 of them... and I have no idea which one I used to create my account. - Ken Sheppardson

The right number of id providers is 1. Selectors can solve this problem. - Cliff Gerrish

We should be able to "transform" emails to OpenID, as described here: http://chrissaad.wordpress.com/2008... (see comments) - Panayotis Vryonis

Hey Kevin how do I get involved in what you guys are doing with OpenID? - Jesse Stay

Jesse, come to the next IIW. - Cliff Gerrish

It would be great if Twitter supported OpenID as well as OAuth #iiw - Kevin Marks

Watching the show but the FF stream is "frozen" from last week?just me? - Paul Sherer from iPhone

Twitter as an OpenID provider? - Ken Sheppardson

Cliff, I wasn't aware of it - that would have been interesting. I was just out there the last 3 days at the Paypal conference. - Jesse Stay

Paul, refresh. The thread has been updated inside NewsGang. - Cliff Gerrish

Wow - I didn't realize Paypal was part of the OpenID foundation - Jesse Stay

@Paul - working fine here. Are you at http://www.building43.com/realtim... ? - Rob La Gesse

I don't quite understand why we need Salmon independent of Activitystrea.ms. Seems like a "feature" of activitystreams. - Ken Sheppardson

I'll head over to building34, thanks. - Paul Sherer

Monica's Activity Streams prezi: http://prezi.com/yxvtypx-aani/ maps out the ideas behind it too - Kevin Marks

Calling out "comment streams" as some special case of activities seems like a dead end. - Ken Sheppardson

Ken, Salmon is just the part that shows how to send the comments upstream, it fits in with Activity Streams fine. - Kevin Marks

Of course in FF the comment thread can appear in multiple places simultaneously via iframe. - Cliff Gerrish

So, Kevin, can Salmon support any Activitystreams objects? ... Got it. - Ken Sheppardson

Salmon I'm Atom... I'm getting lost here - Frank Paynter

Cool, I'm totally going to rip off the salmon idea and make my own proprietary protocol. - Vezquex: God of FF

do you need an iFrog to use ribbit? - Frank Paynter

Okay - I missed the last 15 mins. Did I miss anything? - Jesse Stay

If Gillmor Gang watchers want Ribbit Mobile, got to http://ribbit.com/reserve.php and use the invite code 'gang09' - Kevin Marks

Is Messina on the Space Station? - Jesse Newhart

I wish somebody would put together some sort of over-arching reference document that explains how you build something that uses PSHB, OpenID, OAuth, Salmon, Activitystreams, etc in the "correct" way in an integrated system. - Ken Sheppardson

Ken, check out the identity commons. - Cliff Gerrish

I really wish Phil and Craig were in here. I need to get those guys together for lunch some time. That would be a fun meeting. - Jesse Stay

I think you can catch both Phil and Craig at the Kynetx conference. It's coming right up. - Cliff Gerrish

Conference de jour, literally ;-) Can't we all just agree to get together once a year or so in one place and deal with everything at once? :-) - Ken Sheppardson

how about adding lists to lists? when's that coming? - Frank Paynter

Ken, that's what the weekly Gillmor Gang is for. Everyone in one place in real time. - Cliff Gerrish

I love how Atom is so flexible that we can add all these extra layers on top of it. ActivityStreams, Salmon, PSHB, etc - Matt Mastracci

YES. filters to something manageable. - Karoli

frank, isn't that what listorious is for? :) - Karoli

Cliff: It's just that all these conference give me the apparently mistaken impression that there are more than 10 or so folks who I really have to follow ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Karoli... mebbe, but I'm a fan of bundling functionality within the native platform - Frank Paynter

Seems like building a bunch of translators is the best way to get adoption. - Cliff Gerrish

Isn't that what Gnip's supposed to be doing? - Ken Sheppardson

Facebook just needs to remove the 24 hour storage limit and it will be free - Jesse Stay

@cgerrish yes, translators into Activity Streams rather than n by n translators is an important saving - Kevin Marks

Cliff, yeah - I'll be at the Kynetx conference - Jesse Stay

I see Phil all the time - haven't met Craig yet (except online) - Jesse Stay

Amen Mark - more clients need to support activitystrea.ms - Jesse Stay

Myspace is still very much in the game - Jesse Stay

Wait and see - there are some huge things coming to Myspace - Jesse Stay

So we're all going to speak activitystreams on the global back-end bus and all these sites just become "clients"? Cool. I'm down with that. - Ken Sheppardson

Ken, all but Twitter, at least the way they're going - Jesse Stay

MySpace need a major shift to survive - Rocky Barbanica

Rocky, keep watching. - Jesse Stay

But if *everything* else is connected, we can all just pool our API call limits to pull the full feed out of Twitter and translate it to AS - Ken Sheppardson

Go tell @loic to support Activity Streams from MySpace and Netflix, @scobleizer - Kevin Marks

That's the theory, Ken. At least until the next time something closed and exciting comes along, ;) - Matt Mastracci

It will be everyone supports open standards, then you'll also have to support Twitter's own standard - at least if you ask John at Twitter - Jesse Stay

JK's sane, Jesse... if this all got widespread adoption I think you'd see a different bottom-up attitude from Twitter... - Ken Sheppardson

The custom adapters actually creates a value proposition. - Cliff Gerrish

http://cliqset.com is an Activity Streams supporting aggregator, as is MS Live - Kevin Marks

Facebook needs public indexing to get legit... they can't because of privacy aspect of their service... FriendFeed can provide the opening to public indexing of Facebook users' wall content... - Frank Paynter

Ken, yeah - I just don't like his attitude around it - Jesse Stay

anything but FB, please. - Karoli

Frank, you can use FQL to search Facebook pretty much site-wide (at least as privacy allows) - Jesse Stay

I can sorta see Twitter's point... I mean Evan came to them a year ago and said "Hey, you should support OMB" and their natural response as "Uh... no.... why? Nobody's using it..." - Ken Sheppardson

I should note Twitter doesn't allow specific queries like FQL btw - Jesse Stay

I'd just as soon not search Facebook. or even use it. - Karoli

Jesse...yahbut, you can't find Facebook content on google - Frank Paynter

@Frank - yet! - Rob La Gesse

Frank, yes you can - Jesse Stay

There's a strong current of relevant discussion on Facebook that is hard for me to ignore - Frank Paynter

If Activitystreams was implemented widely, I suspect the engineers at Twitter would warm up to it. That might not be a sufficient condition, but it's certainly necessary. - Ken Sheppardson

sad that no-one from @twitterapi came to IIW this year; @blaine came + helped invent OAuth when they were 1/10th the size - Kevin Marks

Frank: http://www.google.com/search... - Jesse Stay

Facebook encourages self-censorship, or disownership, depending. (Basically I don't really want my Republican spouse reading my liberal rants) - Karoli

@Kevin - they are busy building lists. - Rob La Gesse

Kevin, yeah - that's been my perception - they're taking no part in any of the open efforts, which concerns me - Jesse Stay

I think we all scared them off at BearHugCamp last fall ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Kevin, is Facebook there at all? I imagine Recordon's probably there? - Jesse Stay

That's consistent with what Bret said last week, RE Facebook - Ken Sheppardson

hubs will be distributed. facebook will lose their advantage. - scott anderson

scott, i think so too. Google federating wave is one step closer to that... - Karoli

perfect question - Rocky Barbanica

Where's Microsoft in all this, btw? - Ken Sheppardson

MSFT had a big presence at IIW - Information cards (selectors) started with them. - Cliff Gerrish

Here's another good Google search on Facebook: site:www.facebook.com lists - status updates will very soon also be part of that - Jesse Stay

What did Scoble just call his wife? - Cliff Gerrish

As soon as grandmas start using a service, Robert bails... so... y'know... ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Scott, Facebook is becoming distributed - Jesse Stay

Jesse... thanks for the "site: facebook" clue, but it's weak... I've just been testing it and nothing relevant emerged in response to specific search requests - Frank Paynter

Ken - MS is busy building layoff packages and not serious software. - Rob La Gesse

MSFT had a lot of good people at #iiw, and they are really contributing to the Activity Streams and OWF efforts - Kevin Marks

@KevinMarks. Thanks for the mention. Yes, we (Cliqset) currently normalize activity from 70+ services into activity streams compliant atom feeds. We also share them in real-time through our APIs. - Darren

Frank, a lot of cool articles about Twitter lists - I thought it was interesting "site:facebook.com lists" - Jesse Stay

Save the demo for a building43 video :) - Rob La Gesse

Frank, status updates are also very soon going to be included in that as well. Very soon you'll see those come up in search results. - Jesse Stay

We will, Rob - Rocky Barbanica

Seeing individual engineers and marketing folks from MSFT at different events reminds me alot of my old NASA days, when you'd always find some sort of "rogue" engineer off working on pretty much any project you can imagine. Every once in a while all the "rogue" engineers from the different centers who were working on similar projects would get together... but they were rarely funded and projects never went anywhere. But on the flip side... I'm glad they're involved :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Scoble is such a non-programmer. Everything he says that's hard sounds easy. "How do I bundle 3 tweets?" Just use take their URIs or copy the text. - Vezquex: God of FF

Interesting show. - Rob La Gesse

Thanks for the info Jesse - Frank Paynter

Oh man... - Rocky Barbanica

thanks, steve - Karoli

Vezquex: sorry, that just does NOT do it for me. - Robert Scoble

what more do you need? - Vezquex: God of FF

Vezquex: I want to put them on a page and have them look like Tweets, mixed with YouTUbe videos, mixed with photos. Make it freaking easy. Copy and pasting and doing screen captures is NOT easy for most people. - Robert Scoble

Did they mention the Paypal identification proposal at all? I think I missed it. - Jesse Stay

Just in passing, Jesse - Ken Sheppardson

We never got to it Jesse - Craig Burton

Ken, I'm very fascinated by that, because it's true identity. If they can make that open along with the existing open standards around identity they're going to do some great things. I'm supposed to get a briefing by them soon (I hope). - Jesse Stay

Vezquex: look at the Tweets I put into Wordpress: http://scobleizer.com/2009... that took a LOT of work. Way too much for normal people and WAY too much for real-time work. Did you watch the World Series last night? MSNBC had a Tweet out AS THE BALL HIT THE GLOVE TO END THE GAME! - Robert Scoble

Craig, great seeing you, btw! I don't think we've ever met in person. - Jesse Stay

This is a real time world and copying and pasting URLs is too freaking hard. - Robert Scoble

Thanks Jesse, we need to make that happen. - Craig Burton

Plus, I do everything on my iPhone now. Did you remember how we broke the news of Facebook buying FriendFeed? That entire thing was done from an iPhone, including an audio interview. - Robert Scoble

Craig, just sent you and Phil an e-mail. Let's definitely make it happen. - Jesse Stay

Paypal is still very weak. They are not quite clued in to the selector imperative. - Craig Burton

Jesse: applications running on the open web will always be able to innovate and provide more functionality than apps running on top of Facebook. With activity streams, hubs, openid, etc. the reduced friction advantage that Facebook has is diminished. - scott anderson

Craig, that's my worry - Jesse Stay

Scott, Facebook is joining the open web - Jesse Stay

it's all talk until it happens - scott anderson

they also said Beacon was going to be revolutionary - scott anderson

Facebook is an activitystrea.ms provider right now: http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.... They are also currently an openid provider. - Jesse Stay

Facebook has openID? - Matt Mastracci

I think you see it now with the work Recordon and the ex-FriendFeeders are doing... but the IP limits, 24hr cache limits, and EULA mythology seems to cast a shadow over everything - Ken Sheppardson

Also see: http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index... - Jesse Stay

and http://developers.facebook.com/opensou... - Jesse Stay

openid support is defensive move - scott anderson

BTW, most this stuff was around even before Recordon came on board - Jesse Stay

Yeah, I realized that after I wrote that, Jesse... he's just sorta the flag bearer these days - Ken Sheppardson

Scott, they've had that support for at least 6 months now - Jesse Stay

Facebook led much of the activitystrea.ms standard - it is not a defensive move. They were part of the organization, and are also members of the openid foundation. They're leaders in this, not followers. - Jesse Stay

openid support is a defensive move because they don't want google to dominate the openid space. if activity stream content expires after some period of time when it leaves Facebook, then that is another defensive move and one that is not truly open. - scott anderson

Scott, I'm not sure they've said much about that content expiring. As long as you're a user I'm pretty sure you're able to get your content out, no exceptions. Developers have a few more strict rules, but nothing's stopping a client from enabling that for users themselves. The RSS News Feed app on Facebook's still around, so I think they're opening up to enabling that: http://www.facebook.com/apps... - Jesse Stay

Also, see Facebook's latest news - their entire JS client library is now open source on GitHub: http://bit.ly/48FO1s - Jesse Stay

Messina additional on IIW http://www.thesocialweb.tv/blog... - Steve Gillmor

or maybe the whole service - Steve Gillmor

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it's working for me. just tried it. twitter is behind, however. about 20 minutes behind. - Karoli

Every time things start getting janky I get worried. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Works fine for me. - Maxamad (Amazigh)

Like ...No like.,, - Bill Heslin

Mr. Gillmor...appearances....suck...kk....you know... - Bill Heslin

Steve...your still here...you know we are all still here Gillmor...it puts all Scobleizer to the wall... - Bill Heslin

It's not always smooth sailing (though much improved since shortly after Paul's mention of upgrading server hosting). Search does work fine for me right now. - Micah Wittman

I know Steve you won't give into that? so thank you for still being on Freindfeed,,,,you know...there is something here - Bill Heslin

nope searching stevegillmor immediately jumps back to October 1 after one or two items. didn't do that several days ago. something's up - Steve Gillmor

instant reply...stop Mr. Gillmor... - Bill Heslin

we love RSS and love freindfeed... - Bill Heslin

steve, it's working for me. maybe you're hitting a server glitch? - Karoli

Shall I say "fuck" ...rss - Bill Heslin

is Bill a troll or just socially inept? - Karoli

Excuse me Karoli? - Bill Heslin

you seem to be inserting profanity-laced non-sequiturs into every message on this thread. it was an honest question. i'll apologize if I'm mistaken. - Karoli

now it appears normal again, momentary abberation - Steve Gillmor

You are mistaken....and I shall leave this thread.... - Bill Heslin

And Mr. Gillmor...always loved and still love you show ...even after the Leo bubye - Bill Heslin

Karoli...you are so mistaken... - Bill Heslin

buybye - Bill Heslin

LOL - Maxamad (Amazigh)

"First came puggles and labradoodles. Then, inexplicably, the goldendoodles. (Can anyone explain how that second 'd' in 'goldendoodle' makes sense?) But if you were afraid that the world had exhausted its ability to deliver new, ridiculous names for mixed-breed dogs, you can breathe a sigh of relief. Buggs have arrived on the scene. Buggs, in case you aren't yet up to speed, are Boston-terrier/pug mixes. While buggs (along with puggles and the like) are just fancy names for crossbreed mutts, we can't deny that they're really freakin' adorable. Some buggs have an undeniably pug-like pucker, while others have obvious terrier tendencies. None of them, thankfully, look like insects." - Derrick from Bookmarklet

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I've seen tons lately. They are soooo cute! - Shevonne

x_x - Derrick

almost cuter than my parents' cock-a-poo... :) - T. Brent, technopeasant

i saw a chihuahua lab mix once and wanted to steal that thing. - Baroness Von Cut-A-Bitch

frenchy-bos, just sayin! - Jason

At least the boston/pug mix is a little more natural-feeling, though I can't imagine it being an especially good blend from a health standpoint. Puggles at least got the benefit of the longer nose from the beagle, but in this case, they're just enough alike to be cute but not different enough to improve both breeds' disadvantages. Pugs, by the way, are the best dogs on the planet. Even when they're chewing my slippers. - Karoli

...which is why i really hate it when the DMV is held up as some evil govt agency. DMV employees went above and beyond for me a couple of years ago. I won't forget that soon. - Karoli

People who think the DMV is the devil have obviously never had to deal with the Department of Human Resources here in Atlanta. You would think people working to improve the lives of those that need help would be nice, but you would be horribly mistaken. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

I know...Rene & I were talking about that earlier. Talk about feeding the fringe in a major way. I felt like I was in the movie Crash. WHY did his name have to be Malik Hassan?! *sigh* - ProsePetals (aka Denise)

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You know it will happen ... - Rene Wirtz

tcot, The Crazies on Twitter? Pffftt, what did you expect? - jcunwired

From the raving neocons? Certainly not intelligence. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)

I made the mistake of popping those terms into Seesmic Desktop. Never making that mistake again. I can't decide who pisses them off more: the shooter, Muslims, or Fox News for not naming the shooter immediately. - Steven Perez

Oh, and Hasan was a psychiatrist. Wanna bet that fringers will say he was trying to brainwash soldiers into turning into terrorists. - Rene Wirtz

The second I saw the suspect's name, I cringed for the Muslim world. :(((( - rowlikeagirl

Yeah, I'd almost think it was a setup just so that people WOULD cry terrorist Muslim.... - Her Lindsay-ness

I don't know why the nature of the gunman's name or his religion would matter. The stress of military service can crack anyone. There have even other incidents, even at Fort Hood, where the shooters religion or ethnicity made no bearing on the outcome. It's a shame people are so hell bent on religious persecution than being rational about this. Regardless, at the end of the day, my thoughts and concerns are with those who are recently bereaved. - Mo Kargas

+a bajillion Mo Kargas. - Maxamad (Amazigh)

Indeed Mo...I agree with you on the count of the victims' families. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)

I think this one is my "favorite": "RT @FreedomRing: RT @SwiftRead: Don't insult my intellig. #FortHood: #Hassan anti-USA #Muslim + wntd 2 end war & attackd rdy 2 deploy #tcot" http://twitter.com/kimclif... I'm not even sure what the heck it means, other than someone is angry. - Steven Perez

tcot has been a cesspool for over a year. it is a tag you want to filter, not read. horrid stuff. - Karoli

Judging from what I have seen today, I wholeheartedly agree. If I ever needed a standing definition of a self-fulfilling prophecy, these wingnuts fit the bill. - Steven Perez

wait, what? - (dot)lizard kelly

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theyr'e rolling out the new retweet which discourages all conversation. you can choose which rts you want to see, by toggling the switch on each user. LOL - Karoli

that works for me some peeps too spammy - Mark Forman

Having to set the setting for each user is annoying. Seems like it's just like their device notification settings. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

well is there anything keeping us from using the old-fashioned DIY retweet? - (dot)lizard kelly

Mark, if you don't like spam you'll hate the new retweet. HATE IT. - Karoli

dotlizard, I suppose it depends on whether the twitter police are listening. but think about tweetmeme and the other RT metric measurements. If we don't play on twitter's playground, metrics go nuts. - Karoli

dunno haven't seen yet??? - Mark Forman

How're the twitter police gonna stop us from doing it however we want? - TxVoodoo

i have wave, i just keep forgetting to load it up. it'd be nicer if i had a client or something for it. :) - Karoli

Karoli, do you want to be my Google Friend, or whatever it is, so we can wave to each other? Do you know how to do it? - Kimber Scott

sure -- add drumsnwhistles@googlewave.com - Karoli

also, there's a thread here on friendfeed with a whole list of wave users. - Karoli

"Army officials have confirmed a violent incident has happened Thursday afternoon on post. The reports indicate there may be at least twelve and maybe even as many as fifteen victims involved in this incident. Details have not been released but it is known that ambulances and police are converging on a location in the center of the sprawling military post. Ambulances from several agencies have been dispatched. One unconfirmed report indicates an armed gunman has fired several shots and may have hit several people. Ft. Hood officials report the area is not secure." - Michelle Martinez from Bookmarklet

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oh shit - Dragon Goldmaple

Near my house. My husband was supposed to be on Fort Hood, but had a teleconference instead. - Michelle Martinez

Joel said it is locked down, no one in or out. Scary. - Michelle Martinez

So very glad my cousin's husband left a few days ago. - Yolanda

Yikes. - Kevin Pedraja

Glad your husband isn't there Michelle. - Dragon Goldmaple

CNN says 7 dead, 12 wounded. Edit: local news - Michelle Martinez

so scary and sad. - Yolanda

What the hell happened here? Jesus. - Eric @ CS Techcast

They are saying 2 shooters, high powered rifles. One has been caught and one is holed up in a building. Fort Hood still locked down. - Michelle Martinez

I was actually about to go to Ft. Hood, when got msg for teleconference and about 30 min later when meeting was complete we got word of the shooting on Ft. Hood. Company I work for is doing roll call making sure all their employees on post are accounted for - jamar78

3rd shooter opened fire at the PX. What the eff is going on? - Michelle Martinez

oh wow. Very scary. Glad you're safe! What's the PX? - Jim Hearts FF

Joel, What is the STC or SPC center? - Michelle Martinez

which Px? - jamar78

The PX is the post exchange, just a store. - Michelle Martinez

Clear Creek PX - Michelle Martinez

Wow this is insane :( Sad - Dragon Goldmaple

The local news on TV here in Seattle just said 7 dead, 12 wounded. :( - Rochelle

STC is the soldier center where we outprocessed - jamar78

Joel, The big building on Battalion? - Michelle Martinez

BNO says 20 injured. - Rochelle

yup - jamar78

Local news hasn't changed the amount of injured, but that doesn't mean anything. - Michelle Martinez

Now they don't know if it was 2 or 3 shooters. - Michelle Martinez

Prayers being said. - Jim Hearts FF

Scary! :( - Carmen

Heh. The local news just said that Fort Hood is 120 miles east of Texas. - Rochelle

Ha, that is news to me. - Michelle Martinez

Oh geez, saying a possible suspect got away. - Michelle Martinez

Also saying one of the buildings suspect was in was a traumatic brain injury building. - Michelle Martinez

Rochelle, Now they are saying 20 wounded. - Michelle Martinez

3 shooters, one still on the loose per local news - Michelle Martinez

Oh good Lord! - Jim Hearts FF

No, no, no. :( - Derrick

OMG! So glad to hear Joel wasn't there today. - Trish R from iPhone

Not clear if all shooters were military. - Michelle Martinez

damn, this is surreal. - Jim Hearts FF

I know Jim. I spent so much time at some of these buildings where people were shot. - Michelle Martinez

Two suspects have been caught - Michelle Martinez

Saying there was only 2, not 3 suspects. - Michelle Martinez

phew. - Jim Hearts FF

Hold on someone tweeted: "Dispatcher on Killeen police scanners near Fort Hood: "Male with a gun in a military uniform at the Dollar General in the parking lot.” - Michelle Martinez

this makes me so sad...what a horrible thing for anyone to do. - Karoli

I don't think anyone knows what is going on. - Michelle Martinez

Sounds like the casualty count just upped to 30. - Steven Perez

Now someone else is saying "The City of Killeen has confirmed three shooters were involved in the #FtHood mass shootings. 1 arrested, 1 surrounded, 1 at-large." - Michelle Martinez

w t f! - Jim Hearts FF

"Warning sirens are going off again on Fort Hood. Reports of another shooting at the Comanche 4 housing area." - Michelle Martinez

Michelle, how far away are you? - Trish R

Just heard from my cousin, her husband is back in town but at least he wasn't on post today. God. She says so far their circle of friends seems to be okay. - Yolanda

about 15 min drive - jamar78

Yeah, about 10 or 15 minutes, Trish, depending on what gate you go in. - Michelle Martinez

Thank goodness, Yo! - Michelle Martinez

President speaking about this momentarily. - Jim Hearts FF

I can't believe the shooter was a soldier. - Michelle Martinez

Well, mental health issues effect everybody-- particularly the military. They're under stresses that some of us can't even imagine. - Jason Huebel

Current casualty count is 12 dead and 31 wounded. - Jason Huebel

I know, but I still can't believe it. - Michelle Martinez

Both soldiers who are also possible suspects are now in custody. - Jason Huebel

@MIchelle, sorry for the thread-jack. I'm updating as I hear details on the news. - Jason Huebel

It's okay. - Michelle Martinez

And he was a major! Wow, just wow. - Michelle Martinez

Civilian police shot and killed the soldier. One civilian police offer also killed. Lawmakers plan a moment of silence on the House floor soon. - Jason Huebel

"Fort Hood Shooter: Major Malik Nadal Hasan - source Drudge Report via ABC News " - Michelle Martinez

News reports say there is no obvious link to terrorism, but they are investigating if this was an act of a lone gunman or if there was some coordinated effort to attack multiple locations within Fort Hood. I assume because of the other two suspects. - Jason Huebel

No obvious link to terrorism, and they know this how? If the shooter was islamic this will be the last you hear of it. - Spencer

I don't even have words. Michelle, I'm so glad that Joel is safe. Prayers for everyone involved. - joey

I just read somewhere else that it is too early to rule out terrorism. - Michelle Martinez

Thank you, joey :) - Michelle Martinez

"no obvious link" doesn't mean there is /no/ link, just that they don't have definitive proof that terrorism was the intent. - Jason Huebel

And just because someone has the last name "Hasan" doesn't mean that the soldier was part of some terrorist plot. The military won't make that claim until they have proof. - Jason Huebel

It has been confirmed that the shooter was going to be deployed to Iraq soon. - Jason Huebel

Saying he had something to do with Darnall Army Medical Center. - Michelle Martinez

Major Malik Nadal Hasan is being described now as the "primary shooter". - Jason Huebel

Hasan was reportedly "upset" about being deployed. - Jason Huebel

They still haven't released the kids from some of the local schools. - Michelle Martinez

Hasan was from Virginia and had converted to Islam some time in the past. - Jason Huebel

Governor Rick Perry (R-TX) has a press conference in progress. He is stating now that there where "three shooters". - Jason Huebel

That fits the definition of a "conspiracy". In my mind, that's an act of terrorism since it was a coordinated effort to attack a military installation. - Jason Huebel

Another press conference in 30 minutes. - Michelle Martinez

From @KXAN_News: - AP source: Shooting suspect was Army mental health professional. - Michelle Martinez

Mental health professional? Oh geez... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

A general being interviewed is saying that the shooter was very precise and that this was a premeditated attack (which seems obvious since others were involved), so they aren't treating this as a case of PTSD. - Jason Huebel

This same general says that there is currently no evidence that this was an "act of terrorism" and that there's also no evidence that the shooter(s) were "nuts". I think this general may be retired, so none of this is official. - Jason Huebel

Its official, if you kill 11 innocent victims, you're nuts. Case closed. - jcunwired

Well, yeah. But their definition of "nuts" is different. - Jason Huebel

Congressman Carter just stated that there may be an additional suspect still at large. - Jason Huebel

I knew there was a reason why they haven't opened Fort Hood yet. - Michelle Martinez

They just said that Fort Hood is 200,000 acres. That right? Also there are five gates entering the base. So they have a lot of area to cover and the lock-down prevents potential suspects from escaping. - Jason Huebel

Another source claims that the other suspect I mentioned has been apprehended now. - Jason Huebel

Yes, Fort Hood is huge. And there are way more then five gates. I can think of 6 off hand. - Michelle Martinez

We just counted 12 gates...probably more - jamar78

A congressman is now saying that the two suspects taken into custody have now been released. - Jason Huebel from iPhone

It certainly makes you think about the term "conversation" differently when discussing these services. I am not heard by a lot of the people I listen to. - Aron Michalski

The other side of that is the introspection of whether or not you have anything worthwhile to be heard... - Aron Michalski

There are a few visible people who promote following who are not present; should I return the favor? Do they deserve my puny number? Do I have to listen to them blather on about every nonsensical service they stumble over on the way out their door? - Aron Michalski

Friend or follow is not always accurate, either. I can't use it on my account at all because twitter api limits the number of calls it can make to check. But anyone can be heard simply by replying to someone they follow, whether they're followed or not. This has always been my beef with the so-called "social media experts" who swear on life itself that reciprocal follows are the beating... more... - Karoli

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