As of Saturday my parent's home was still there when my dad left. He stayed on the roof with a hose fighting it by himself. The firefighters helped him fight it for a while. They used a pump to pump water from the swimming pool to fight it but eventually the firefighters gave up. The neighbors house burned down. My dad was able to save our house, at least as of Sat. afternoon. It may be gone now. He was going to try and hike back in on Saturday night in order to bypass the roadblock by the Sherriff, but wasn't able to get back in there.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I think the house may be ok. Well see. On Sat. night when I talked to my mom she said that he'd been able to save the house fighting the fire from the roof. But a storage/garage type structure on the property burned down and 3 cars were lost as of Sat afternoon. The whole thing could be gone now though.
- Thomas Hawk
Oh, Thomas! Many prayers, warm thoughts (warm = the affectionate kind, not the fiery kind), and hugs to you and your family. I hope everyone is safe!
- Ladybug Heather
Oh, man...I am sorry to hear that, TH. Thoughts & prayers to you and your family.
- JA Castillo
they are all safe. my mom was in ventura giving a seminar and my dad stayed until the fire burned through the property on the canyon. There were still hot spots though that could have flared up. He left on Sat. afternoon after saving the home and the fire burned through the property. I think he wanted to get to town as there's no phone/electricity up there to let everyone know he was...
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- Thomas Hawk
Oh, sh*t!! That's awful. Glad to hear your folks are OK, Thomas.
- Andrew Terry
Sending good thoughts your parents way, Thomas. *hugs*
- Molly, "sorry"
I'm so sorry, Thomas. You and family are in prayers, I'm so glad to hear that you are all safe. Your father is a very brave man. Please let them know I am praying for them.
- Melanie Reed
So scary. Best wishes to your folks. The worry must be unbearable.
- Kathy Fitch
I've lived in Altadena/Pasadena for the bulk of my time in Los Angeles, nearly ten years. It's really scary to know that some of the homes that are being lost are undoubtedly friends or relatives of friends and people that I know.
- Derrick
Hope everything turns out good for your parents, looks terrifying
- Kim Landwehr
Hope everything turns out alright, with no more property loss, for your parents!
- Rene Wirtz
How scary and terrible! I'm glad that your parents are ok, though!!
- Susan Dennis
I'm so glad everyone is ok. I'll keep your family in my prayers.
- ChiliMac
I'm glad everyone is safe. Is this the worst fire season in recent years?
- Bryan R. Adams
yeah. this is the worst fire since the fire that burned through there maybe in 1977 or so? I remember that one too. It was pretty bad. This one seems worse though. The other thing that's terrible are the floods that follow the fires the next winter.
- Thomas Hawk
Scary things fires like these. Glad to hear your family's safe though - at the end of the day that's more important than the house.
- John
Really scary. I saw a wildfire up close for the first time this weekend in Yosemite. It's not something I hope to be near again.
- Kevin Pedraja
So sorry to hear this. Good to know that your parents are safe.
- Anne Yeh
ohhhhhhh shit! that totally sucks :-(
- Ralph Reijs
Thomas I am so sorry. I hope their house is ok. Gosh, I feel bad for you guys.
- Jim Williams
I talked with my dad on the phone for the first time today. He seemed fine about it all. He said it was exciting actually. He was the only one there fighting the fire for a long time. He said it was really quiet except for sounds of the fire. He'd hear a tree fall and yell "timber." He was in pretty good spirits all things considered. He's pretty sure the house is saved and hopes that they might escort residents back in in the next few days sometimes in this part of Big Tujunga Canyon.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm sorry to hear about this, but I'm glad everyone is okay!
- Michael Fidler
It is a story all to familiar for us Australians and thankfully my family and I have never been caught up in it ourselves, but have come very close. Glad to hear that your folks are ok and in the least have a story to tell. Everything is replaceable except your life and these types of events bring people to that realisation faster than they would like unfortunately.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
WHOA! I hated the CA wildfires ..that was something I'll never miss again... augh
- Susan Beebe
Man ,, TH.. Im so glad that the folks are ok ... tell Dad to leave the firefighting to the young guys ,, hope that the folks are safe and that the weather can drop some rain to assist in this disaster ,,
- johnpiercy
TH .. all that matters is that the folks .. are safe ,, homes can be rebuilt .. best wishes sincerely jp
- johnpiercy
he's a pretty crazy but resourceful old dude actually. the firefighters were there helping him for a while but they bailed on the property figuring they couldn't save it and he stayed and fought it off himself.
- Thomas Hawk
Hope the house is okay. Glad to hear the folks are safe. Cheers!
- Helen Sventitsky
Can't think of anything more scary than having to run from your house as it's being surrounded by fire. Very glad everyone is safe though....that's what is important.
- Bonnie Foster
So glad to hear your folks are safe, TH. Wow. Praying for the firefighters and rest of the people caught in this horrible fire season. :-|
- Lisa L. Seifert
OMG! that's really dreadful! glad to know your folks are safe. and stunned that the fire looks so beautiful in this image!
- B.L. Ochman
Yeah WOW. So brave for your dad to fight the fire all by himself. I'm glad to hear he's ok.. I feel a little sorry about their house, it's beautiful :(
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
So sorry they have to go through this. Thank you for sharing the story, Thomas.
- Micah Wittman
I was listening to a story on the radio about how quickly you can be engulfed by a forest fire, specially when certain types of trees literally explode raining burning chunks around, honestly, it sounds very risky to stay behind and fight these yourself.
- Ray Cromwell
Thomas, I hope your parents house makes it though the fire OK. I'm glad to hear that your parents are OK, regardless of what happens to the house.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I feel for you Thomas because I've been there just over 6months ago. All I can say is (unfortunately) you're in for a shite of a year ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Peter Renshaw
glad to hear your folks got out - terrible to see the devastation!
- Kate
glad to hear they're OK but gutted for you TH
- Phill Price
Sorry to hear about your troubles Thomas, but I'm extremely glad your parents are safe and sound. Looks like you guys are having a really bad season
- Mo Kargas
sorry you guys are having to go through this shit. And I'm seriously impressed by your dad! major balls.
- vijay
Sheesh* Scary Poop Batman - hopefully Everybody is OK* I saw that on the Front Page o the Paper this morning + U never think it's somebody U know*
- Billy Warhol
I didn't want to click on the Like link because it's almost like saying I enjoy watching Thomas Hawk's parents house burn down. Hope everyone is safe ;-)
- James Robertson
I am sorry to see the fire was such a danger to you and your family. I sincerely hope your Dad didn't manage to sneak back in - he just endangers himself and the fire fighters.. It is better to have your Dad around than a house.
- Bill Rawlinson
I'm really sorry to see and hear that.........
- Kevin Montgomery
That is so scary, but the biggest thing is that you know where your parents are, and they're safe.
- mark zero (Jason)
My parents went back into their property yesterday afternoon. They were letting some residents back into Big Tujunga Canyon. The house survived but there's a lot of work still to do. The pipes from the water pump to the spring burned up and so my dad's trying to repair those to get water back to the property. Electricity is still out and probably will be for at least a few weeks. He's...
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- Thomas Hawk
It's going to be hard for the whole community now Thomas - it is the same in Greece where there were really devastating fires close to Athens these past few days. At least your parents are safe - all the best.
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
We're glad you could attend Google's "tips and tricks" session. We created this site as a way for you to revisit many of the shortcuts and product features that we shared in our session. Here you'll find resources for everything from Search to Google News, Trends, Earth, and Mobile.
- Leo Laporte
from Bookmarklet
WOW ... she just picked him up and bent over backwards and threw him !!! .... man thats one girl i wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of
- Bhowmik Shah
Sorry to crash the party, but I remember seeing this ages ago. Apparently, it was a produced commercial for a Japanese magazine. A 2005 forum post: "I went to the Japanese web site & watched both ads. (http://www.kodansha.co.jp/comic...) Based the translations above, I think that these are very clever ads that exemplify the magazine's intent to bring the unexpected to their readers....
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- Micah Wittman
OK!Magazine has it on their webapge. BBC and other new agencies have he is in the hospital. Nothing from the Hospital though or the family officially.
- Uncle CW™
I wouldn't trust a trashy gossip rag like OK either.
- Ian May
a minute ago CNN announced that Mich. is still alive.
- خرچنگ زاده
"To share files on friendfeed.com, simply click the "Files" link underneath the post box and select which files you want to include. You can also share files by including them as attachments on emails sent to share@friendfeed.com."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff.
- Bret Taylor
Are the files public when accessed via direct link? Or do they require authentication?
- Mark Trapp
Any other files that don't work with it?
- Kol Tregaskes
What's the file attachment size limit?
- imabonehead
Kol: i assume you can attach video? it just won't play in-line? or did i misinterpret that?
- Frankie Warren
@imabonehead, from Bret's comment above: "We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff."
- Dan Hsiao
I tried it with both a txt and a rar file but neither seemed to work (the message was posted without a file attached). [Update: works now for me]
- Philipp Lenssen
Gonna give a big W00T!! to this before I even read the whole thing...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Now all I need is a number where I can call and leave a VM that gets changed into an audio file, and I can get rid of drop.io for good! Yeah, we're never happy are we? Sorry....
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
All we need now is a calendaring system and support for source code.
- imabonehead
mp3 sharing works in FriendFeed? Just when I'm thinking to share some 'musiclets' from time to time via Tumblr! mhh.. interesting, really!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
this is awesome, i was literally just trying to do this last night on one of our team feeds and had to post links to published google docs instead. going to try it out now. it's like they read my mind.
- Mike Elliott
Kol...we use Drop.io all the time here at my office. This would be great as it is supremely simpler. But approved file types and sizes needs to be understood.
- JA Castillo
Mitch, that would be an option, but I can only imagine the opportunity for the wrong voice file to go to the wronge feed...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And Akiva is right...where do we start donating?!
- JA Castillo
If we had basic HTML support for first comments on FF, it could almost be used for mail (at least for forwarding and reading mail to and on it).
- Kol Tregaskes
JA, a list of supported file types, limits and sizes is needed... please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This will go a long way in convincing some of my Yahoo Groups to move to FF. Although we must have a list of file types supported, retention times and also if there is a max number of d/l's.
- Gil Francisco III
This is awesome but I'm also concerned about the type of people this might bring to the FF community.
- Johnny
Gil, I'm seriously considering moving my Y!Groups list members from there to FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is one of those features that people don't complain about even though they didn't ask the community prior to launching ;)
- Frankie Warren
Dare I ask about Boobies.jpg.virus.exe? - Oops Casey says they are virus scanned
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Jannifer: RIAA and MPAA, specifically. Say someone shares a copyrighted song or something...RIAA gets cranky.
- Jordan Hofker
Am I the only person that thinks this is an incredibly bad idea?
- Jason Nunnelley
.m4a files sent from the iPhone's Voice Memos feature aren't given a player but are making it through the mail to FF feature. Any support for a player coming down the line?
- Christopher Harley
How about .zip s that are password-protected? Reject I hope... (edit) .zip not supported at all, I gather, good!
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
yeah search by filetype absolutely! filetype:pdf, filetype:mp3, filetype:zip, filetype:doc etc.
- Nathan Chase
Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment."
- Ross Miller
I'm not sure that I'm going to use that feature (I rarely share docs over the internet that weren't created in Zoho or GDocs, anyway), but still it looks pretty neato.
- Miss Elle
Bret, do you have any restrictions to protect against music filesharers etc so you do not become an RIAA target?
- Travis Koger
@ Travis: I was just wondering the same.
- Brian Chang
Bret Taylor, a friend of mine uploaded 1 mp3 and it disappeared. Now he can't upload any mp3 file, seeing a [The "" file type is not supported]. Broken message?
- Jason Nunnelley
"You can only upload 3 audio files every day. Please try again later." Too bad because I was really just trying to see what files worked. .wav aint one of them. No audio notes from Evernote, iPhone, iProRecorder. I soooo want to love this but It's not doing what I need it to do. This feature needs to support some kind of multi photo post with a recording appended to the message. That should be right out of the box. Video needs to come right behind it. Music is cool but citizen journalism is even cooler.
- Christopher Harley
I haven't tested this but, how exactly are you determining audio file types, just using the file extension. If so there is a work around with a simple file rename, an example would be if you change an .mp3 to a .pdf and let people rename it once it becomes local on their machine. EDIT: This workaround would also allow video to be transferred.
- Jimminy Fuller
Maybe I don't know enough, but doesn't this kind of open the door to slipping malicious code to unsuspecting users?
- Fleagle
this is the best thing I know this morning when I open my eyes, well done!
- K.D.
Fleagle: It is possible that someone would do that but FriendFeed is fairly well self monitored. It is still a small group of people in comparison to other networks.
- Jimminy Fuller
Glad for this feature, though perhaps close partnership with Box.net or similar could keep FF storage costs better contained? Not criticizing, just hoping Core Team doesn't get distracted by extending (and babysitting) commodity services. Keep up the great work!
- michael silverton
So we can setup private groups and share questionable files ? :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
That's pretty much what I was saying, Ahsan. I did one earlier as a test to prove my point, (NOTE: it is a clean file, direct from Revision 3) at http://friendfeed.com/jimminy...
- Jimminy Fuller
Hmmm @Ryo, good catch, posting directly from Android to FF your voice messages, would be cool!
- Ozkan Altuner
Can we tell the lawyers that they "won" and give them all the money? Then start over with a new set of I.P. laws and a new currency? Pretty please?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
This is great. I'll try this instead of posting to Ipernity.
- Rick Cogley
Seems like a good step in the right direction indeed the concerns are founded based on previous experiences but it is a good start.
- Ubuntu101
Is it possible to set it up as part of the feed like a podcast?
- Ubuntu101
Excellento - inline playing of mp3 files at last - this will be dangerous. But is there are limit??
- Chris Loft
embedding mp3's is just fine when it works .. I've been trying to get a podcast rss feed I have setup imported for the past 8 hours straight only to find out that each time it's not importing squat.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I take that back it worked once but everything in the description tags showed up twice.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Can us folks with Symbian OS-based devices have some Adaptive Multi-Rate codec/AMR file love, too? I believe that some Samsung and NEC phones also use that audio file format...
- Tyson Key
Oh, and Google Earth KML files, and Ogg Vorbis files aren't supported right now either, for what it's worth. Still, it's a nice idea, so far.
- Tyson Key
Tried to share an .hta file with Micah yesterday....couldn't attach it. Tried to zip it and still couldn't attach it. Ended up tossing it in my dropbox and posting the link. :-(
- April Russo (app103)
Question [ 01 ] - Michael in St. Louis asks about a Kindle DX Review? I was curious when we will get the Kindle DX review you commented on in a previous Security Now podcast. I have been really looking at that as a possible reader, but since there is no local store I can go to and put my hands on the product, I am weary to make such an investment. I read and have a large collection of technical books in pdf format and would like to know how native PDF support works on the DX.
- Leo Laporte
Question [ 02 ] - Steve Whaley in Lexington, Illinois asks ... is SecureZip Free??? On your Netcast you indicated that SecureZip was free. I am unable to find a download of this product that is free. It appears that PKWare wants $39.95 per user for home PC's. Am I missing something?
- Leo Laporte
Hmm, are Amazon using US customers as guinea pigs for the Kindle, before unleashing it on the rest of the world? :-P
- David Wright
from twhirl
Question • [ 03 ] - Damien Eversmann, a professional programmer in Sacramento California, wonders why "Coding Error == Remote Code Execution?!?... Steve, First, ditto what everyone always says. I've been listening since episode one and I hope you and Leo keep it up for some time to come! So, here's my question.... I'm a programmer by profession. I've been doing it for about 15 years...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 04 ] - Joseph Vollmer in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada wonders whether WPA/WPA2 is "Quickly crackable????"... I am fully up to date with all the episodes. I started listening to security now January 2007 and have been listening ever since and love the show. I am an IT Support professional and a bunch of my co-workers claim that they can or it is possible to crack WPA/WPA2 with...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 05 ] - A Security Now! listener in California has asked to be Anonymous while asking about a "Home-grown VPN Client"... Steve - As a consultant I am often asked to use a client's VPN for remote access to their network. My current client has a home-grown VPN client. It is an Active-X add-in to IE. Is there some way I can determine what this VPN client is doing? Is there a...
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- Leo Laporte
They usually overlay their own card reader over top of the slot on the machines and pinhole cameras over the keypad. Teams come into Germany from Eastern Europe and rig machines. I always give the slot a good yank and cover the keypad and my hand with the other hand whilst typing the pin.
- David Wright
Question [ 06 ] - Anthony Fitch from Blaine, Kentucky saw it happen first hand!... First of all, I have listened to every episode of Security Now! and it has filled in all of the gaps in content that were missed in my formal classes at my college. This show has lead me to win First Place in the Computer Concepts category in the Phi Beta Lambda state competition two years running! Thanks...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 07 ] - Rick Huebner in Melbourne Beach, Florida is worried about "same plaintext and multiple ciphertext in Secure Zip" Steve, in the discussion on Secure Zip, you said "So the idea is, if you wanted three different people to be able to decrypt this ZIP file, you're able to attach their certificates to that file. And essentially it takes their public key and encrypts this...
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- Leo Laporte
Leo, it could be a good idea to call your bank and tell them where you will be using card, so they don't flag your transactions as suspicious
- notagolfer
Edeka supermarkets in Germany use a custom Linux installation.
- David Wright
Amarok is a powerful music player for Linux and Unix, MacOS X and Windows with an intuitive interface. It makes playing the music you love and discovering new music easier than ever before - and it looks good doing it.
- sofarsoShawn
Some new features: Integrated Web Services* Last.fm Last.fm Scrobble and listen to any last.fm radio stream with fully featured last.fm integration. * Magnatune Magnatune Buy tracks from the integrated Magnatune store, and help support the music label that Is Not Evil. * Shoutcast Radio Directory Shoutcast Stream thousands of free Internet Radio stations right inside Amarok. * Ampache...
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- sofarsoShawn
Amarok 1.4 was a really nice player, my preferred one on Linux -which I use all the time-. Unfortunately, version 2 released with Ubuntu Jaunty was too broken to be considered even as a alpha, so I was forced to switch to Rhythmbox. I doubt I'll go back to amarok for some time, and if someone wants my opinion, 1.4 was good enougth (very good, in fact) and songbird is a good alternative, also.
- jmiguel rodriguez
I'm going to give this a shot due to having touch & go iPod integration with Songbird, also the integrated web services look more advanced, and for scripting resources
- sofarsoShawn
Peter Cochrane's Blog: Become a bandwidth scavenger - Networks - Breaking Business and Technology News at silicon.com - http://networks.silicon.com/broadba...
On one day our Prime Minister announces that every home in the UK will have 2Mbps broadband in 2011, and the next a Korean minister announces that everyone in his country will have 1,000Mbps in 2012.
Totally agree. Well, I love my belongings because they give me a weird sense of confidence...but, they never make me wholly happy. Re: the kids...mine are totally going to read books in the park and LIKE it :)
- Charlotte M
Oh bless. I was afraid people would rail on me for this. I love all my FF friends, but all the boasty stuff makes my eyes go crossed sometimes. :) I think we do it and don't even realize we're doing it, to be honest.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I agree with mmdc to a certain point. I'm not a big fan of excessive showing off of the new Tesla or Iphone 3g purchases, or whatnot. Or the my camera is better than your DSLR type of thing. However, I'll admit to posting stuff purchased/experienced/made because I want my friends to see it. Because, well, it's for my friends. And anyone else who's interested. At the end of the day,...
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- Helen Sventitsky
So, I shouldn't post about my fancy new hairbrush? What will I talk about?
- amygeek
@Helen: And that's precisely why I unfriend, block, or hide posts from people who do that frequently. If it's a once-in-a-blue-moon thing, I just hide the irritating post and move on.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
You think it's bragging when someone says "I just bought this"? Umm, OK. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I talk about consumer items to get ideas on what to buy and to share my experiences after I've bought something. I also talk about restaurants that I go to or what I'm doing at a specific moment or some thought that comes to the surface that's interesting to me. None of that has anything to do with oneupmanship.
- Alex Scoble
At least now I know why you aren't subscribed to me, Amanda. :)
- Alex Scoble
I don't think I ever highlight things I've bought. Maybe I need more cash. But tinypants isn't following me either, Alex. :)
- Louis Gray
I don't get it - just unsub from a person like that. What's the big deal?
- Dave Hodson
@Alex: Well there's a difference between sharing something so that you can spread your reviews as a consumer, or to see if others can guide you in making an informed purchase (asking for a laptop recommendation to help you narrow down between several choices, for example), and just being a braggart. I'm mainly talking about the people who say "Yay! Look what I just bought!" but then go...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Louis, Alex, I wasn't subbed to y'all because I'm a lazy subber. :) Not because of anything you've said or done. Remedying that ASAP. @Dave: I'm not subbed to anyone like that. The offenders I see are pretty much via FoaF or in rooms I belong to. And so like I said above, I just hide or block. Just because I had a rant over this doesn't mean I'm not taking care of business here.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Oh crap, and I just did that. My purchase is big deal to me, a moment, and I had looked for opinion here. I just wanted to share. Many here like shiny things. I see nothing wrong with living vicariously through others about techie things.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I like reading about what people purchase because it helps me learn about what's available and might possibly help me make up my mind about my own purchase. I'm in the process of buying a new camera and I've learned a lot more from people on FF talking about their own cameras than I have just researching the products online. I don't really consider it boasting or bragging, but I understand why it might be offensive considering how many people are struggling or have lost their job.
- Trish R
Well written rant, Amanda. I imagine I am "guilty" of this, but I like to share all kinds of stuff, usually too much, with my friends, and my friends are now here on FF. :)
- Josh Haley
It's funny...you are far more likely to hear about my vagina issues or my idiot former boss than you are to hear about anything I've purchased. I exist in kind of a different world, it sounds like. I bet you'd be hard-pressed to find out how many TV's, computers, cameras, cars, homes, etc. that I own by reading through my feed or my blog. But you'll definitely become intimately knowledgeable about my ass and what shape I keep my lady topiary in. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I think it all comes down to perspective. Amanda, you use FF for one thing, Josh, Trish R., Jason H., myself, others, use it for something else. There's no problem in that. It's just nice to see people get into this discussion without getting defensive about stuff posted on their feed. After all, it IS their feed. They can do what they want with it. :)
- Helen Sventitsky
@Lindsey: I don't think I've ever seen you brag about anything. Except maybe Mark, but that I can totally understand. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I posted pics of my 5D when I got it (which was a BIG deal and I never make purchases like that on the regular merely because I can't, money wise). I posted a pic when I got my new TV (because my original TV was stolen by bastards). I'd like to think I didn't do it to boast, but because these were important to me. But then I post pictures of frying pans too, so YMMV. ;)
- Derrick
And I understand that, Helen. Which is why I don't subscribe to those types of people at all. I am very clear on the "my feed vs your feed" delineation. Doesn't mean I can't have a rant about the entire concept of bragging and e-peening on FriendFeed though. And really, I think the main issue I have are the people who use someone's post or comment to say "Well your XXXX item is a few...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Derrick, that's how I see most posts about purchases. People are excited about their purchases, they worked hard to pay for them and they want to share them with everyone. That's how I interact with my friends in person. Sometimes we talk about vaginas and our idiot bosses, like Amanda, and sometimes we talk about cameras or electronics, like the people she's complaining about.
- Trish R
I think that is the great thing about friendfeed that people can post what they want and people can block what they want
- (jeff)isageek
Luckily most of the people I sub to just don't do this and if they do mention something they bought or want to buy it's to solicit advice and not to brag. As far as the teen-itis stuff (look at me and my new socks), I just don't sub to people that do that (frequently). There are just too many other interesting things to look at, read, and discuss on FF and the net. If all you are getting is ppl bragging in your feeds then you need to re-evaluate your feeds.
- Kelly W.
Thanks for the sub, Amanda. :) I'll try to keep the bragging to a minimum.
- Alex Scoble
Well yeah, people get very easily too happy for stuff they buy or get, I'm little bit same kind of person. But I don't so excited that I will talk about that all over internet. BTW, about that materialistic, I very rarely buy some gadgets, because I'm college student and I can't spend money almost noting. Resent big purchase was iPod Touch 1 gen and that was over half year ago. And I don't get big presents on Christmas and b-day, but that's okey for me :)
- Kristian Salonen
@Jason: Lazy subber. :) Honestly, I am. @jeff: fully agree. @Trish R: the term "e-peen" means "electronic penis". "e-peening" more or less equates to the concept of guys bragging about the size of their poles, more often than not with much embellishment on the truth. It's a more common term in the gaming community, but applies pretty much anywhere.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
This is true in many situations. But for people like me who is on a very limited income, I am happy that I can buy something and tell others about it because I feel a sense of accomplishment and want to share in my happiness. Others probably do too, but the difference here is what the blog says, of getting the better thing than someone else, to me that's just being a spoiled rotten ass.
- Ken
What friendfeed are you viewing? I've never seen anything like this....
- Matthew DeVries
I can relate to that.. you know, one time I was on my private jet on my way to the mansion (the third one, with two pools) and I was browsing the friendfeed and someone was bragging about his new iPod! I could only shake my head in disgust... (j/k ;) Seriously, good post :)
- Jemm
Pretty much agree with this post, but we have to remember that there are people so far removed from the reality of those who might follow them that they have no clue it might be a little deuchy to talk about all the hot new crap they're buying all the time. Luckily, my eyes glaze over when I see those threads, so I haven't paid much attention to any of them. I did post about my iPod, but only because I'm proud I won it :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
...it's an interesting rant, but since you can choose who you wish to "follow" -- although the term I prefer is "tune in to" -- why keep up with the exploits of people who irritate you, unless you actually like that stuff? In fact, I want someone to write a rant about people who feel compelled to rant about what's wrong with services they voluntarily join. Isn't the rant just as "look at me"-seeking as the behavior just criticized?
- .LAG liked that
I like talking about tech and gadgets in general and reading other peeps experiences with them.. *shrug* I'm the type who would congratulate someone on a purchase than think they are bragging.
- Rodfather
She's using the wrong FriendFeed. They're doing it wrong. My friend's feed works just fine.
- Bill Strathearn
Well, when you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one who yelps is the one who got hit. I'm guilty of this too. But I know that the things I buy are by no means any form of oneupmanship. I am just happy to have the things I get. So happy that I like to brag a little bit. We share all kinds of things here on FriendFeed. Purchased items are not any different than sharing what/where we...
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- David Cook
I can only speak for myself, but I *really* do like turtles and if I have to take my turtle purchasing power elsewhere, well then, so be it.
- Christopher Harley
@LAG & @Bill: If you actually read what I wrote above, you'll see that I stated that I'm getting this stuff via FoaF and in comments to posts people I'm friended to are making. The people I am subscribed to are all fine. I don't want to lose FoaF entirely because that's how I find cool people to sub to, but I'm getting awfully close to shutting it off. And @LAG: by your measure,...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Amanda, you're subbed to 63 people and of those I'm not. I've never posted the types of items you've mentioned, we've carried on conversations before, and yet you've never felt compelled to pull in my feed. The subtext to some of what you're saying boils down to a lot of people not being worth your consideration. If I'm one of those people, I guess I lose.
- Christopher Harley
Christopher, that is one giant ass monster pile of unsubstantiated jumping to conclusions merritless speculation guessing getting it wrong drunk monkey slime crap.
- Matthew DeVries
Well, Matthew I'm gonna be late for class so I'll have to catch the tail-end of your puling later this evening. Make it memorable.
- Christopher Harley
DRAMMMMMMMMMMMMA now excuse me while i drive to store in my audi to buy something and twitpic it
- sean percival
Ooops, Amanda subbed to me. [*never mind] Everybody go back to what they were doing. I agree with everything. bye
- Christopher Harley
This has made me think about what I post and how it can come across; thanks for sharing.
- joey
Sorry I'm late... terrible traffic, you know...ok................... *drops pants*
- Johnny Worthington
Nice post/rant. I agree this is stupid human behaviour, but have not noticed this more on friendfeed than anywhere else. Because that's what it is, human behaviour. I love your blog theme by the way.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
@tinypants... sorry, it was a LOOOONG thread. i amend my comments: some rants are worthwhile, and not all of them are in the same "hey I'm cool, look at what I just did/bought/accomplished" as you, well, ranted against. I did begin my initial comment with "NICE rant..." so I did recognize the value in your message, and still do. Thanks for letting me share. Onwards!
- .LAG liked that
My number one request for FriendFeed right now? Give me this same feature for *Flickr.* Would love to be able to find more of my Flickr contacts who are on FriendFeed. Even better, give me the same Yahoo mail / Gmail functionality to invite my flickr contacts to FF via the Flickrmail system.
I know that many of my Flickr contacts are on here that I'm not even aware of. Monitoring their photos and faves via FriendFeed is vastly superior to Flickr's own "most recent contact photos" page. I wish I could add more of them. Photos are my favorite thing on FF.
- Thomas Hawk
I know that the vast majority of my Flickr contacts are *not* on FF -- but really *should* be on FF. If FF could use the Flickr API to allow me to invite all of them via flickrmail to my FF (like Yahoo mail and Gmail) this would be huge in making FF even that much better for me. I so wish more of them were on here. There are so many amazing Flickr photographers that could add so much to FF.
- Thomas Hawk
Yes please, I am way more interested in seeing new images than seeing tweets show up in 2 places.
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
Kinda shocked the CEO of Zooomr doesn't also suggest Zooomr
- dbcohen
There are a lot of possibilities. I would love to be able to filter people based on their feeds, and groups for example. Like searching for people who have imported their flickr stream into friendfeed and who is also a member of the 'Tech Bloggers' group. Basically I would love to see them improve the way we discover people on friendfeed. Simply being able to search by netwwork would be amazing. Like tell friendfeed to list all my contacts who are also on delicious!
- Kasper Sorensen
Zooomr would be great too. But Zooomr is a far smaller service. I have a list for all Zooomr content on FF and that is manageable just with a list right now. Flickr is not. Since Zooomr basically uses Flickr's API though I'd think that if it could be done for Flickr that there would be no reason why it couldn't also be done for Zooomr. Would love that too!
- Thomas Hawk
I'd just like the ability to create a Flickr account without needing a Yahoo account - it's incredibly frustrating if you create them regularly. Yahoo have a really cumbersome sign up process.
- Martin Bryant
Running friendfeed vertically rocks. I didn't know my monitor could do that.
- Robert Scoble
That's pretty cool. It's nearly like running Tweetdeck when you set it up like that. Now we just need the real-time search for it to be perfect
- Kasper Sorensen
from fftogo
There should really be a greasemonkey script to run FF just like you have it there. I'm assuming that is your likes, comments, and the main feed?
- Andrew
Andrew: nope. One is my Twitter friends. The other is my main feed. The third is my Tech News Makers. I should do a video. It's fun to watch.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting setup. I think you should definitely do a video
- Angus Burton
Gmail has way better spam filtering than yahoo, and probably than any other email service out there. Its conversation view is a clearly better way to look at email ("View by conversation" in Outlook is a different concept). Obviously search works great. And yet, after many years, Gmail hasn't totally taken over the email world. What does that tell you?
- Bruce Lewis
I'll answer my own question: It tells me that gaining adoption is hard.
- Bruce Lewis
I love to check out the habits of successful people
- Bryan Vartabedian
Bruce, some things take time. Gmail is growing faster than the other services, and I suspect that it will be #1 in a few Years. Also, I believe that it's especially popular among heavy users (someone who spends all day in email matters more than someone who logs in once a week to check their spam).
- Paul Buchheit
Switching email addresses is unbelievably painful for the average consumer using email services that don't allow forwarding to a new address.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Paul, I think you're right. I just keep hoping someone will somehow prove you wrong, that things don't have to take time.
- Bruce Lewis
Paul: I once asked an MBA class which email client they use. ALmost all were on Gmail.
- Robert Scoble
Bruce: all of these things are doubling pennies. They double at "n rate" and all of them take time. No easy way to get everyone in the world all in one day.
- Robert Scoble
Ain't that the painful truth. No easy way. Back to work, I guess.
- Bruce Lewis
Something that often goes unsaid in the discussion about online identity is that while most websites right now require usernames and passwords, many people actually use the password manager feature in the browser–effectively turning their browser into a limited identity manager. So one of the things we can and should be looking at is how to improve the existing identity manager to better serve our users’ needs.
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Interesting especially in connection to our discussion yesterday about Firefox vs. Facebook.
- Kasper Sorensen
Well, I still think the concepts of identity management vs. running a full-blown social network are related but are still very separate issues. There's a difference between managing a set of keys (what Firefox is doing) and actually building/running/maintaining a house that requires a key for entrance (what Facebook is doing). It's true that the 2 are interdependent, but saying that one competes with the other IMO is still a largely inaccurate statement. We'll see how it turns out.
- LANjackal
not too bad at all. going to have to start trying that out on a few projects.
- Jim Carter
It looks something like Kosmix, but it's not.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I've written about them before. Tech-related.
- Louis Gray
Susan, we always have fun. Mike, Akiva and Anna think it's scary. :)
- Louis Gray
Is Matthew trying out for the "Stuck on You" prequel?
- Jodi Olson
Jodi, it is possible. The toughest part would be trying to find him clothes. Now tell me the truth, did you find this only due to a Kosmix vanity search?
- Louis Gray
Nope--I saw your update on Facebook and was curious! :)
- Jodi Olson
Though, I have to admit that I'm one of your followers who hasn't made the full jump to FF. I'm going to start spending more time here--though I may need a lesson in getting the most from it!
- Jodi Olson
Kol, maybe you can show me how to really get started on Friend Feed. I know you and Louis are both big fans.
- Jodi Olson
I have loads of fun with Photo booth Its the first thng i do whenever come into contact with a mac
- Roberto Bonini
So I left friendfeed because...well, it sucked. It was full of tech news and blogs that interested me as much as painting the room puce does. I gave it a shot again, because someone I knew who had left came back. I'm quite happy with the new site, and the content you can get from users. It's...stuff I'm actually interested in.
Have you heard that Apple might buy Twitter?
- Cristo
@Chris. Noooo! Are you srs? That's...so NEW!
- Candace
The new design really improved stuff around here. One of the main reason I've been spending more and more time on here the last couple of months
- Kasper Sorensen
I wasn't here when you were but glad you gave FF another chance. In the short time I've been here it's been anything but tech news and the like. Do a quick search on "meme" and you'll see what I mean.
- CAJ, somewhere else
With all the social-media-mutual-masturbation that goes on, finding content that interests you often feels like swimming upstream - but it can be done!! :)
- Anthony Citrano
I think the important thing is that we all stick to talking about things related to social media. It's not appropriate to use these tools to talk about anything besides themselves.
- Cristo
I, too, have found that with the new site, there are more posts that have content I'm interested in. I'm not a tech person at all and it seemed like that's all that there was.
- Lis Miller
Welcome back, Candace. Hope you don't run screaming from this iteration. :)
- Steven Perez
fan bloody tastic! So we can post here and Twitterers can comment away without any complaints! The only think you need to try and do is bring in comments (about a share) from twitter into here! :)
- Zee.
This is great...should help new users quite a bit.
- Mark Krynsky
OK, I admit I'm dense. As an existing user will this help me find the folks I follow on Twitter?
- Laura Norvig
Cool, is it possible we could have the ability to bulk import or non-FF Twitter friends as private feeds so we can track them in FF? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Laura, existing FriendFeed users should just go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... and click on the Twittter (and Facebook and Google) icons to find their friends. Kol, not yet, but I'm hoping to add something like that soon (improved imaginary friends).
- Paul Buchheit
Thx, Paul - guess I haven't been to that page since the launch. btw, I'm definitely coming around to the new friendfeed (colors notwithstanding).
- Laura Norvig
Great to see the standards working -OAuth fro Gogole and Twitter login on Friendfeed
- Kevin Marks
That's a great tool, Paul! Found a few from Twitter and Facebook I didn't realise were on FF...:)
- WorldofHiglet
Oh man, that is suh-weet. Works really well.
- Laura Norvig
Paul, that would be wonderful, thank you. I'm keen to use FF as a kinda Twitter client. I'd love the ability to import my group I've created on Tweetvisor too but that would additionally require exporting facilities from Tweetvisor, and from asking them they've told me it's low priority (which is fair enough).
- Kol Tregaskes
That's fantastic! Sharing with all of my not-yet-friendfeedified twitter friends. Thanks, Paul!
- Eric Johnson
This IS good. Thanks for the hard work, Benjamin Golub.
- Micah Wittman
Love that you guys are making the entry more enticing. What about refining what FriendFeed is further? Like: Twitter + conversation. For new people who don't get it and most without the time to get it, simplifying the message or experimenting further with your "first impression" on your splash page might be worth a try. Example: wouldn't it be cool to have a live conversation streaming to show just how FF has a leg up on the scattered Twitter stream?
- kilbuda
WOW! 313 new Twitter people! Amazing what the OAuth did. Amazing. That just completely Rocks!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That was just too easy, and found a bunch of Twitter people. I just subscribed, but I hope they participate. I'm sure I'll have to trim later.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Thanks for everything Benjamin and the others, that is really great. :)
- Alp
I was subscribed to exactly 100 of the people I follow on Twitter. Added 93 more. Funny, this is actually helping me find people I *don't* want to follow in either place.
- Laura Norvig
I'm looking forward to the "advanced imaginary friends" section which lets me as an existing FriendFeed user view all the twitter updates from people that don't use FriendFeed.
- Brian Sloane
Just posted this to my stream then saw this, Cool stuff Paul
- Charlie Anzman
Some time ago I spent lots of time in removing my Facebook-Friendfeed integration, and didn't succeed, Facebook refused to remove it. Since that - no info about any other my services to Facebook, ever.
- orie
Happy to hear that there will be an improved imaginary friend option!
- Jacob
The improved imaginary friend feature will be great. No need to visit Twitter much then!
- Pinksy
How do we give virtual bucks to Paul, oh I see a like button here. Off to work on the influence funnel, who cares about dollars, I want eyes ;)
- Mark Essel
FriendFeed is constantly bringing new value to the service. I'm loving it!
- Amie Gillingham
I just imported 8,000 new Twitter friends. Worked MUCH BETTER than last time.
- Robert Scoble
Smart move guys. A quick way to grow FF users is to tap into the current hot properties. Can't believe other Social Networks are so slow to respond.
- Neill Adamson
Paul, is there a way to sync it so that people I no longer follow on Twitter are unfollowed on FriendFeed?
- Jorge Escobar
Great news on the advanced imaginary friends. That plus the ability to comment back to Facebook posts as easily as we reply to Twitter would be killer.
- Kevin Kuphal
Ca passe 50 fois par jour ce truc là sur FriendFeed ! C''est pas possible d'arr^ter, j'en ai marre de le voir franchement ... ^^
- Jean-Marie Gall
from twhirl
@Robert cannot seem to do that with groups. What I want to do: Concentrate different RSS feeds (e.g. newswires) which do not necessarily have an account in any other social network into one imaginary friend's collection of feeds.
- Mark Jacobs
Mark, "groups" (formerly "rooms") are able to import feeds just like regular users (and imaginary friends). See https://friendfeed.com/xoogle-... for example (imports the blogs of all known xoogle startups). The only thing special about imaginary friends is that they don't have usernames (or rather we assign a random 128 bit username).
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, the DM option on imaginary friends should perhaps be removed. Also, imaginary friends do not show up on the search dropdown list when you type in their name in the search box.
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul, is it possible to automatically create "imaginary friends" from twitter following list? What I would like is to read all my Twitter in FriendFeed; many of twitterers though are not on FF, so I have to create them by hand which is tedious. Also, it would be nice to allow to add them to some special list.
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar, see my comment up in the middle and Paul's reply. Looks like FF are working on it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Still would like an imaginary friend than making bunch of Groups to simulate peoples that doesn’t use FF. BTW, unlike the Facebook Connect login, when I tried logging in using Twitter, it made a new account for me on FF instead of opening my own (which also has Twitter activity added).
- Natsuki Seika
I just spent a lot of time in Facebook. It's amazing that so few journalists include their phone numbers. Lots of others do, though. How are they supposed to get tips? I'm thinking about other things I'm learning by visiting hundreds of my friends in Facebook.
But Facebook sure has a TON of metadata about everyone. Far more than any other system.
- Robert Scoble
Some people just aren't open enough to give out their phone numbers. I've regretted giving out mine on several occasions (thanks to Twitter).
- Michael Forian
By the way, Safari 4 sucks. It freezes, and crashes if you open too many windows (on both Windows and Mac).
- Robert Scoble
When Google Voice goes public I would suspect more phone numbers will go live since its easy to block those that you don't want to hear from.
- Uncle CW™
So: how to combine the metadata of FB with the openness of FF?
- phil baumann
I just always hated the phone as a communications device, thus only very few people have my number. I give out my e-mail address readily (and blog URL, Twitter, FF and FB etc. accounts, etc.)
- Bora Zivkovic
Safari 4 does suck. It does weird things. It wouldn't even open my Gmail for the first couple of weeks it was out, and it does other weird things like I can't see Leo's calendar on live.twit, etc and other weird things. I think FF is taking off. I'm getting 20-30 new subs in my inbox everyday, and that wasn't happening a month ago. It's numbers have to be skyrocketing if my anectdotal evidence is any indication.
- Stephen Pickering
Getting an unwanted email is much less annoying and easier to deal with than an unwanted phone call.
- Barak B
Michael: that's not nice and that voice mail is not safe for work. Even when I work at home.
- Robert Scoble
Phil: Good point. Openness and personal metadata don't usually go hand in hand. But if one were provided a choice to opt-in, I guess it can be all right.
- Alexander Grundner
Regarding FF being onto something, my new criteria for how well I think a new internet service will do is how useful it is without a web interface.
- Chip Ramsey
God, Micheal, that is scary. Can someone be prosecuted for something like that. They certainly should be. I put my number on my blog, but I'm not a public figure. I always thought it was cool that Scoble did. I certainly wouldn't call him or anyone else unless I had something very important pertaining to their field that for some reason required a phone call instead of a DM, but I can't think of any.
- Stephen Pickering
I can't seem to share my phone number or email with "Everyone" on FB, even if I wanted to. (which I don't mind with at least the email, and my GoogleVoice number)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Maybe it would be nice if I could store more profile data on FriendFeed?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: I think friendfeed realizes they can't compete with Google and Google is doing profiles. So, why not just use Google's profiles here? Or Facebook's? Facebook is massively ahead in that area.
- Robert Scoble
Robert (and Sam) I'd be perfectly stoked to see my Google or Facebook Profile brought into a profile link here. Sam, I don't really care to set up another profile, but, I want it to be convenient for the people I want to connect with. I send them mostly to FriendFeed for links to other connections. I'd be happier with the Google profile, because it has all of the social links that I...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Sam: Judging from the FF mobile apps, widgets, desktop apps, etc. out there now, I would say they don't rate very well. However, if Twitter is an aggregated SMS utility, then FF is an aggregated MMS utility. I haven't played with their API, but after reading about their work with mysql, I have respect for their technological prowess and ability to scale. I would bet the FF service will eventually lead to some extremely useful non-web apps.
- Chip Ramsey
BTW, what's interesting about FF and mysql is not that they use mysql, but how they use it like a key-value pair DB. UPDATE: Here is the link to a post about how they use it http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Chip Ramsey
You're a better man than I Robert. I can barely stand to go over there. If it weren't for some old friends that I have no other way to contact, I would shut down my account in a heartbeat.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
yes, but what about the stalkers. then again, if your friends are stalking you, what does that say about your judgment (in friends)
- JD Howard
Social networking convergency is a wonderful thing......if we could get it. The successful player will be the one that can bring this to Market successfully (and not necessarily the first). Facebook has the biggest number of users (>200million), but that doesn't necesarily mean that they will be the winner in the end. We are also looking for the player to be dynamic as well, things change rapidly and consumers (us) are looking to be part of the sooner rather than later.
- Clifford Kennedy
Sam: Primarily what I mean by "profile" is contact information. When I want someone to learn what I am all about, I direct them to find me Here on FriendFeed, and to a lesser extent on Facebook. FriendFeed would be the one stop shop if it included all of my "profile" information (like is found on the Facebook "Info" page or Google profile). I think you can see from that I value the...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That's a good question, at least include their 'work' number. I'm on the edge about Facebook, I don't know what to use it for, work, family, friends or a combo? I can see if Journalists wants to keep their profile completely private and simply use it as a place to hang out with their friends and not think about work, even though it would limit them in their job. I like to use friends lists, that way I can show separate info to friends and keep some of the more personal stuff hidden from 'strangers'.
- Kasper Sorensen
This is a good way to learn what others are doing
- prince
I'm sorry, what ever happened to email or DM via Tw????
- Bryan Vartabedian
@That was replaced by Facebook which has now been replaced by FF .. next week it will be something new :)
- Steven Hodson
Louis: Allen has more than 3,000 of my business cards already. Does an awesome job. I now have a much better contact list.
- Robert Scoble
I see my card in the photo. Heheh. Microscobleized indeed!
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you're getting Microrecycled.
- Louis Gray
That looks a very attractive idea: my business partner is currently trying to persuade me to buy a new scanner which also does biz cards - for $450! Yikes. This looks very attractive as I have thousands of cards that desperately need scanning. I wonder if you can import the scanned data into FilemakerPro?
- Sally Church
Sally, Allen knows this better than anybody, of course, but you can export it into CSV format, into Address Book (Apple), to your e-mail application, to Salesforce.com and other apps. I assume, Filemaker could get the data as well.
- Louis Gray
Sally: you should be able to. It's just a database.
- Robert Scoble
remember the old palms had the beam your contact feature. I am surprised that did not catch on. The newspaper industry may be dying, but the business card people I guess are ok.
- Jeff
I need to send Allen my cards. I tried Evernote, but I still can't find my contacts after scanning through there.
- Jesse Stay
Thanks Robert and Louis! Sally - we offer a variety of export files and a standard default file that should work anywhere. I've created a dozen custom exports for customers as well so if the default doesn't work, I can create one that matches whatever app you use.
- Allen Stern
Allen, thank you for the quick response! I will look into this seriously.
- Sally Church
Thanks Sally - let me know if you have any other questions.
- Allen Stern
Holden, if you've gotten a ton of business cards over time, and they're not all in your computer, Allen will get them into an online database, which is exportable to common address book programs and databases. CloudContacts also links online profiles to social networks, contains a scan of the card, and uses geolocation to show their office in Google Maps, etc.
- Louis Gray
i used cloud contacts and thought it was great.
- Charles Hudson
I had a discussion about this with my dad the day the verdict was given and I think this was a great step towards proving a point that can't be ignored. Not that piracy is OK or that Google is illegal, but that piracy will always happen, no matter how you try to stop it. Bit torrent is a great technology for sharing large files online, and I have used the Pirate Bay lots of times, mostly to download Linux distributions, which is completely legal.
- Kasper Sorensen
Shahin, want to see photos of the muslim-on-muslim rape and torture rooms that my son took in Fallujah? Children gutted like fish. Men beheaded. Women beaten to a bloody pulp. My son lost 59 friends fighting these bastards. Their loved ones had the sorrowful "goodbye," too, and will never enjoy the "hello."
- Dawn
I have a story of seeing a scene familiar to this picture. In an old blog somewhere.
- Mike Nayyar
Dawn, muslims not bastard; in everywhere but you found madmans that kill people from america to africa to asia in every where like that 17 years old guy that killed his schoolmate huh?
- shâhin
Shahin, there's not an organized movement of thousands of "madman" students that are cheered on by people around the world to kill classmates. btw, I didn't mean "bastards" in the literal sense. Sorry.
- Dawn
It's touching, absolutely. I wonder though if a parent expressing this much grief is healthy for the child in that does the child's focus become about his/her mother's feelings and not their own sadness.
- Gregg Scott
Dawn, you seem have learned only first part of lesson (war is always bitch) but not the second (true enemy is not whom you see on the other side of fireline)
- A.T.