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and my first attempt at rillettes begins. wish me luck. http://www.flickr.com/photos... ; http://www.flickr.com/photos... (and yes, i added water)
Graham Steel, Mr. Gunn and Cameron Neylon liked this
YAY. And the latest person to live-microblog/tweet a cooking experiment is @kaythaney Good luck !!
- Graham Steel
But now we have a six hour wait. And I need to go to bed.
- Cameron Neylon
6 hour, then 12 hours refrigeration. check back same place, same time tomorrow :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
day 1. http://talestestkitchen.blogspot.com/2009...
- Kaitlin Thaney
Slow cooked pork belly with scallops, potato and apple mash, and braised leeks
Simon Cockell, Christina Pikas, Kaitlin Thaney and 3 other people liked this
Just because Graham requested it...
- Cameron Neylon
Turned non-fan oven on to 140 C to pre-heat. Took a splash of balsamic vinegar, olive oil, orange blossom honey (not that the orange blossom bit is important), couple of grinds of pepper, and a small dollop of soy sauce. Brought to the boil and reduced for a few minutes to prepare glaze.
- Cameron Neylon
Cut two times ~200g square of of pork belly and spread the glaze over, recovering the glaze that ran off for later. Placed pork pieces in oven at 140 C
- Cameron Neylon
I can't stand it anymore. I'm getting some authentic bbq tonight.
- Sung W. Lim
We have more pork, you can come here if you like...
- Cameron Neylon
I'm hungry - good thing going out for lunch now. pics requested!
- Rajarshi Guha
After 90 minutes quickly browned six shallots (small onions, not green shoots) and placed them under the pork. Basted pork with remaining glaze and own juices, covered with foil, and reduced oven to 130 C....now to peel potatos
- Cameron Neylon
Pork at 90 minutes: http://www.flickr.com/photos... and Shallots:http://www.flickr.com/photos... (not because they're very exciting but because there is very big differences between US, UK, and Australia as to what a shallot is...)
- Cameron Neylon
Peel and slice potatos and boil. Top and tail leeks and put it small oven-proof dish. Cover with chicken stock and put in oven at 180 C
- Cameron Neylon
Chop fresh sage and mix with cooked apple. Wipe a little olive oil around two ramekins and put apple and sage mix in the bottom: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Cameron Neylon
Mash potato with a good dollop of butter (the secret to great mash is just disturbingly large quantities of butter) and mix in a little of the cooked apple. Fill the ramekins with the mixture and leave to cool while...
- Cameron Neylon
...having a pit stop...http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Cameron Neylon
I didn't know you drank olive oil, Dr Nylon.....
- Graham Steel
Ok. We're at T-30 and this is where things have the potential to go pear-shaped. The _plan_ is. Turn bottom oven off, put in plates to warm. Put apple mash ramekins in top oven at 130 C. Remove pork and leave to rest, pouring off juices and combining with stock from leeks, reduce with white wine, to make sauce. Heat butter in frying pan and fry sage leaves, recovering and putting on...
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- Cameron Neylon
First move off piste - the onions need a bit more time - glazed them with sticky stuff on pan then grilled under a high heat for a few minutes. Now clearly out smoke. [ed. That's, clearing out smoke obviously...]
- Cameron Neylon
love love love. havent started operation rillette yet, but will document on this when i do (no teasing, either) -- http://talestestkitchen.blogspot.com
- Kaitlin Thaney
Final conclusions - everything was nice separately but not great integration. Would actually have been fine without the scallops. But then I really like scallops so they were great too! http://www.flickr.com/photos... and later...http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Cameron Neylon
...and no Graham, we weren't drinking olive oil http://www.flickr.com/photos... ...although one of those was last nights t be fair
- Cameron Neylon
nom nom nom. I would gladly pay at least $20 for a plate of that. RESULT !!
- Graham Steel
..too late mate, it's all gone..!
- Cameron Neylon
A work of art
- Rajarshi Guha
Well having looked at Kaitlin's photos I think she's done a much better job...
- Cameron Neylon
mmmm sounds good. that's what we call shallots here - but i would describe them more as a cross between onion and garlic.
- Christina Pikas
acquiring 4.4 lbs of pork belly from the butcher and then almost hugging him with excitement is my idea of a perfect saturday morning.
Rajarshi Guha, ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ, Graham Steel and Mr. Gunn liked this
OK - I am sure you have your reasons. But yuck.
- Jonathan Eisen
are you a vegetarian? b/c that's the only reason i can think of where a reaction would be "yuck" ;)
- Kaitlin Thaney
mmmm...pork belly....
- Mr. Gunn
I'll see your four pounds and raise you 2kg and eight scallops... :-)
- Cameron Neylon
not strictly a vegetarian, though I do not eat mammals - but it was the volume that was getting me not the item
- Jonathan Eisen
In my case it was the smallest I could get - will be cutting up and freezing most of it. I think Kaitlin is making a large quantity of Rillettes for Thanksgiving(?)
- Cameron Neylon
4 lbs of it :) not just for thanksgiving consuption, of course.
- Kaitlin Thaney
Someone had to do it.... "I went into a butcher and said I bet you can reach those pieces of meat up there. The butcher said he couldn't take that bet. I asked him why not. He replied because the steaks are too high."
- Graham Steel
// taps microphone. "is this thing on?" :) ba-dum-bump-tchhhhhhhh.
- Kaitlin Thaney
LOL - This url comes in handy from time to time http://www.instantrimshot.com/
- Graham Steel
for a second i thought you were sending something NSFW. that's awesome.
- Kaitlin Thaney
oh, i just looked up a recipe - that sounds really good! I just got like 8lbs of pork butt for $0.85/lb (cheap for any type of meat) so it's a vindaloo for din-din and the other half in the freezer.
- Christina Pikas
Is this a 'what to do with pork channel' or what. Am about to de-skin "10 premium chipolatas made with british pork blended with parsley and nutmeg" to add into my new chilli con carne recipe. Stealing some tips from here http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes... and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Graham Steel
Maybe I should liveblog this afternoon's cooking :-)
- Cameron Neylon
Stranger things have happened ;-) http://mcblawg.blogspot.com/2009...
- Graham Steel
Alrighty then....
- Cameron Neylon
Now go here:- http://ff.im/bQlvE
- Graham Steel
@steamykitchen does it come with the bun and condiments too? almost as bad as the turkey / chicken in a can. blech.
@Kaitlin, I'm way more than certain that you *may not* like this from BBC News, 2006:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1...
- Graham Steel
oh, that's foul. and amazing. amazingly foul.
- Kaitlin Thaney
I am sorry for 'bringing this up', so to speak. Most awfoul. The stunnigly shite audio quality of the video makes the '50 y/o chicken-in-a-tin' story' even more foul. http://news.bbc.co.uk/player...
- Graham Steel
slides from this morning's presentation now up, and guess what, it's about knwldge sharing + science <spoiler alert> :) http://www.slideshare.net/kaythan...
Cameron Neylon, Justin H. Johnson, Deepak Singh and 3 other people liked this
How did the pres. go, Kaitlin??
- Graham Steel
was well received :) most of the day is in spanish (latin american conference), but some interesting feedback re: local issues over traditional knowledge and sharing of agricultural information (in this case, seeds was cited as a big example)
- Kaitlin Thaney
Interesting feedback indeed. Nice one !
- Graham Steel
is on the hunt for your best roast chicken recipe. or someone to ship me the roast chicken from mother's in portland. either/or. #foodie
replied on twitter but 140 ch limit doesn't work well for recipes! Basically, I use Alice Waters' recipe, which is really simple and foolproof. Salt and pepper inside and out beforehand (up to a day ahead), then put sprigs of fresh herbs like rosemary and thyme, some pieces of butter and crushed garlic under the skin and inside the cavity, then roast at 350 or so (I think) for 3 sets of...
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- Shirley Wu
from twhirl
awesome :) thanks shirley!
- Kaitlin Thaney
Also see Heston Blumenthal/In Search of Perfection/Roast Chicken http://www.youtube.com/watch... reshown on BBC1 last Saturday...
- Graham Steel
now i have that theme song stuck in my head :) thanks graham.
- Kaitlin Thaney
making a little pre-thanksgiving turkey dinner for one.
Practice?
- Chris Lasher
1/2 bone in turkey breast was on sale. :) though i am taking on the family turkey dinner this year for 5-6.
- Kaitlin Thaney
Good luck! I haven't been brave enough to try--there's no way I could meet Dad's high bar for turkey baking and gravy, nor Mom's high bar for dressing.
- Chris Lasher
thanks :) managed christmas for 12 last year, 4 courses. thanksgiving may be a breeze in comparison :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
Data sharing: a look at the issues - Trieste - http://sniffingthebeaker.blogspot.com/2009...
Jean-Claude Bradley, Judah Richardson, LANjackal and 4 other people liked this
haz u been borrowing some slides from @wilbanks - LOL
- Graham Steel
Kaitlin, do these slides exist anywhere online in a editable format? Sometimes would like to adapt some of them but not use them as is...particularly the category error image :-)
- Cameron Neylon
from twhirl
@graham -- we're an open org. we always share :) it's what we do.
- Kaitlin Thaney
@cameron -- shoot me a note with which ones you'd like, what format (keynote, ppt) and i can send :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
@kaitlin - I know, I wasn't being serious :)
- Graham Steel
:)
- Kaitlin Thaney
I daresay that all the openness in the world is for naught if it can't be effectively queried ... :P. Still, it's good to have information freely available :)
- Judah Richardson
Bring lots of quarters - http://www.dankennedy.net/2009...
FOI FAIL.
- Kaitlin Thaney
i'm sorry, controlled restricted access of data is not "open access".
Bill Anderson, Alex Scoble, Deepak Singh and 6 other people liked this
needless to say, she wasn't so pleased initially at being told her labeling was off ...
- Kaitlin Thaney
So what's your opinion of data that requires you to get authorization from academic institution? :)
- Deepak Singh
hm, if i didn't know any better, i'd think you guys knew me pretty well ... :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
So can I send you to hit some folks at CMU on the head? You make a much more persuasive argument
- Deepak Singh
oh alitalia ... you fail so hard. words can not even describe. and the lost luggage for an entire plane is just the tip of the iceberg.
The entire plane?
- Chris Lasher
ayup. save maybe 5 bags.
- Kaitlin Thaney
New iPhone Application Lets You Virtually Grill Bratwurst - http://www.seriouseats.com/2009...
i may need to get an iphone ... :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
starting to fail to see the humor in the ever decreasing odds i can fly out of fairbanks ... this week.
go to Denali - it is spectacular
- Jonathan Eisen
ended up driving through it and partially around on the way down to anchorage. was absolutely beautiful, albeit just a brief view :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
Just Give It to NIH - http://pipeline.corante.com/archive...
is anyone else confused by mcardle conflating innovation and drug sales (linked at the bottom)? marketing budgets don't reflect "innovation". how are they defining?
- Kaitlin Thaney
Soliciting help in doing some research - http://sniffingthebeaker.blogspot.com/2009...
looks like we've narrowed down the disease: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Kaitlin Thaney
Fault tolerance comic strip. Nerd humor at its finest : http://browsertoolkit.com/fault-t...
Chris Lasher, Mickey Schafer, Lisa Green and Pierre Lindenbaum liked this
Double like. Querying a key/value DB designed by someone else is my current problem :-)
- Pierre Lindenbaum
:) i couldn't resist.
- Kaitlin Thaney
granted, the patent # on this is crap, but really? are you trying to patent reality? // scratches head in confusion (http://www.patents.com/REFEREN...)
most redundant description ever. even for a patent application. FAIL.
- Kaitlin Thaney
ha, just found out that there was a science commons friendfeed room. sorry gang.
Mike Chelen liked this
Can you merge them?
- Bill Hooker
merge with ... ?
- Kaitlin Thaney
http://friendfeed.com/science... although there isn't any content there. maybe rename it?
- Mike Chelen
hm, not sure where that room even came from ... thanks for bringing it to my attention, mike!
- Kaitlin Thaney
hehe sure, it isn't really doing any harm, but still comes up in search results :)
- Mike Chelen
Chris Patil - Open Source Textbooks #sbcPA
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John Cumbers - what is the size of the market, do people make money out of textbooks. Example of Cell - Alberts etc.
- Cameron Neylon
Some people make a lot of money out of textbooks but not very many. Very long tail.
- Cameron Neylon
Big text books take a lot of work - how does the textbook look in a web based world. What is a textbook for if the university doesn't exist any more.
- Cameron Neylon
chris is pretty god like ... but not christ, i dont think. :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
thanks for that - typing not good at this time in the morning - insufficient coffee...
- Cameron Neylon
Chris - the lack of return on text book authoring is an opportunity for new types of approach.
- Cameron Neylon
There is no shortage of text books, there is a glut
- Cameron Neylon
Alicia, "I would pay $20 if I knew it went straight to the author"
- Cameron Neylon
discussing the concept of "beta" versions of books. The Pragmatic Programming series.
- Cameron Neylon
Alicia - benefits for people who need accessible versions
- Cameron Neylon
John - PDF sucks, need something much better than PDF for flexibility.
- Cameron Neylon
Martin - but want access to multiple formats
- Cameron Neylon
Bosco - print on demand is getting cheap and very high quality
- Cameron Neylon
Sean - open access text books is not a technical problem but a social problem - how do you fund the content
- Cameron Neylon
Project at stanford to support making course material creative commons
- Cameron Neylon
Problems - how do you create new content (resource). If use legacy content then there are problems with copyright infringing content
- Cameron Neylon
Me - what about using Wikipedia?
- Cameron Neylon
Chris - Wikipedia a reference, not a teaching tool. These things are different. Need to provide a route through the content for the average student.
- Cameron Neylon
Needs to be seen from the perspective of the teacher.
- Cameron Neylon
Good question - what do teachers use a textbook for? How do you leverage the needs of the teacher to support the creation of better objects that could replace textbooks.
- Cameron Neylon
Bosco - major contribution of publishers is the editor - collabortive authoring is a challenge for long documents
- Cameron Neylon
debate over the value of a well integrated long work - clearly works well when you actually work through the whole book - does anyone ever really do that?
- Cameron Neylon
John - would like guidance through the process of using a "text" - where you've been and where you're going - quizes, checkups etc..
- Cameron Neylon
comment from boston: what to do about the various flavors of CC licenses on OCW content? most have BY-NC, some materials with SA - a design decision made without the forethought of interoperability, reuse (in the context of virtual textbooks) and remix. how/ what to do?
- Kaitlin Thaney
How much does it cost to fly in eight people for four weeks to get a draft together. Suggesting around $50k, so 500 people at $100 each. Bosco points out many people who are setting up courses for the first time could have an interest in putting the work in.
- Cameron Neylon
Kaitlin - I'll try and feed that in. I think people here are relatively unaware that these already exist. Do you know what the best current examples are?
- Cameron Neylon
Question: Is this something Google.org might fund? (that's a reminder to myself)
- Cameron Neylon
Chris - in the world where we have $50k to support one of these could put out a call for proposals
- Cameron Neylon
would have to check OCW policies, but i know that they're not all consistent across the board for various universities across the world, and most definitely not CC-BY ... lemme look :) thanks cameron. just something to noodle on.
- Kaitlin Thaney
Need to identify a good area where a current text doesn't exist
- Cameron Neylon
Martin - is the two week retreat model a good one or a wider online collaboration
- Cameron Neylon
Me: need the "retreat" or a focussed effort to get the seed content in palce
- Cameron Neylon
Martin is a retreat per se great or does it need to be cheaper? What is the right number of people.
- Cameron Neylon
Chris - what field is small enough and needs a textbook- me thinking Small Angle Scattering but not sure this is of interest to this group really
- Cameron Neylon
K, so to be part of the OCW consortium, the content needs to be subject to a CC license, it seems, or at least is strongly recommended. MIT is CC-BY-NC-SA. but other institutes, such as Michigan State doesn't cite a CC license and provides some content only read-only. So short answer ... it varies. Ugh.
- Kaitlin Thaney
Sean discussing status of Stanford efforts on open curriculum content - currently in a holding pattern
- Cameron Neylon
Asking the question - why is there no secondary market for teaching materials given the popularrity of blackboad and moodle
- Cameron Neylon
Fabbiano talking about NZ universities purchasing Springer textbooks "like journals" on a chapter by chapter basis
- Cameron Neylon
The books are purchased as electronic versions by libraries, as far as I know as whole, not chapter per chapter, but can download only chapter of interest
- Kubke
science has a strong culture of attribution, but can be tough to do on the web
- Duncan Hull
I was too busy following the discussion, forgot to comment here.
- Martin Fenner
Thanks for the input from afar, KT, esp, your first comment - rumors of my divinity are greatly exaggerated. :-)
- Chris Patil
Sorry, coming in late. Before O'Reilly programming, etc books weren't exactly what we've become used to. I wonder, even in a non open-textbook world, what would happen if a publisher that enabled people perhaps not that well known to just write stuff.
- Deepak Singh
Complete Yale course on iTunes University: http://www.tuaw.com/2009...
- Martin Fenner
Just came across wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki...) through this article (http://mashable.com/2009...) (via @edNZ). I also read (where?) a suggetsion to have students 'edit' wikipedia pages instead of handing in papers in their courses. Maybe a collaborative effort having the students contribute to wikibook content as part of their course requirements might be a good place to start?
- Kubke
OH well, I came across this page in wikibook: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki... I guess any project will have to have better editorial control?
- Kubke
Bonus double feature: pigeons vs. grad students, it's a tie! - http://www.ncbirofl.com/2009...
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Kaitlin Thaney liked this
this site makes me so happy, btw. it's like christmas come early.
- Kaitlin Thaney
The word of the day is schadenfreude.
Mike Chelen and Chris Lasher liked this
Oh, you're watching your way through "Arrested Development" too?
- Chris Lasher
ha, it was dubbed over in catalan. :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
Scientific Publishing Will Change. Will you? - http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs...
"There is a great opportunity for universities to reclaim their commons." - PMR ... Agreed.
- Kaitlin Thaney
The collapse of toilets in Glasgow - http://www.ncbirofl.com/2009...
NCBI humor :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
So excited about "Making the Web Work for Science"!! http://tickets.commonwealthclub.org/open... Even better, @timoreilly will be the moderator!
Jean-Claude Bradley, Kaitlin Thaney, Cameron Neylon and 3 other people liked this
July 28, 2009 - San Francisco Commonwealth Club - Joi Ito and John Wilbanks
- Richard Akerman
lisa, had an email from a woman in the UK asking me at SC for your contact info. said it was in regards to stefan gleanzer? message me @kaythaney when you get a chance :) thanks!
- Kaitlin Thaney
last call for talk title suggestions for barcelona - accelerating knwldge sharing? the need for open infrastructure? mix of both? ideas?
Stepping Stones, not a Bridge to Nowhere: Open Infrastructure
- Richard Akerman
another suggestion ... digital commons and science. with a note that i think too much about these things. right and right. :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
"knowledge sharing in the sciences", it is.
- Kaitlin Thaney
is kicking off an open source, open science conference in barcelona, need a title for my talk on open infrastructure. ideas?
Richard Akerman liked this
which conference?
- Richard Akerman
Free Software, Open Source and Free Knowledge. (http://is.gd/15lA8 -- note: this is translated, JPL = GPL)
- Kaitlin Thaney
that sounds like a lot of fun. Will you post your talk on slideshare?
- Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
absolutely.
- Kaitlin Thaney
i'm a sucker for film shorts starring cupcakes and fresh produce. wednesday mental health break video. (http://www.vimeo.com/1004092)
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I laughed when the cupcake shaved its head.
- Chris Lasher
or when he fell in love with butternut squash, or made a shelter out of sugar cubes and kale. it's just so good. :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
new wedding expense ... renting guests, price dependent on level of attractiveness. (http://www.totallymoney.com/news...) ;)
Doing some research for personal use? :)
- Deepak Singh
Nah, not needed. Though, funnily enough, the company's owned by my bud's two best friends in the UK. Go figure. :)
- Kaitlin Thaney
It's a strange, small, world
- Deepak Singh
Wow, image must be pretty important these days ;)
- Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
bentham accepts nonsense paper, created with SCIgen. paid peer review fail. what are we paying for? http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009...
Lars Juhl Jensen liked this
I think we are paying for their spam, Kaitlin ;-)
- Lars Juhl Jensen
expensive spam.
- Kaitlin Thaney
I read that and it looks more like a horribly thought out internet scam than a real OA problem
- Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
much more of an issue with bentham, and surely not the first, than a problem with OA. peter suber has a great history in his comments on this today.
- Kaitlin Thaney
Haha, publisher now says it was just a trick to learn the true identity of the bogus paper submitters: http://is.gd/12wyF
- Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
Oh, so it was also just a trick that they invited me to be the editor of journals on multiple topics that I didn't know anything about? If Bentham intentionally published a nonsense paper in a peer-reviewed journal without peer review, then I think it may be the biggest PR mistake in recorded history! Not that anyone of us believes a word of what Bentham says, of course :-)
- Lars Juhl Jensen
looking at futons on craigslist, for the second time get a message back saying "i googled you, we know the same folks." anna kushnir's bf?
:: cue "it's a small world" music ::
- Kaitlin Thaney
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