For you librarians whose libraries have Facebook Pages: who administers it? And how did you figure that out? I have a new job. At the old place, I set up the page and was the only one who ever bothered with it. We're setting up a FB page here at the new place, and it looks like we're going to be more formal about it. Your input, please!
We have a Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages...). We on the Web Content Team set it up and administer it (one person in particular) because it's in our "jurisdiction." Because we have a Web Content Team, it makes doing things like this fairly easy.
- josh neff, geek at large
Our User Services Librarian is responsible for it... but it's only been a few months. I dunno yet if we'll expand that role to include other staff, or keep it localized for the sake of accountability/responsibility. Things that are un-owned tend to languish, I've found.
- Jenica
I set it up, and administer it along with our Marketing and Communications department. I'm not exactly sure who decided they'd have a hand in it, but they're like the Borg and end up taking over almost everything, so...
- cecily
I set it up, and added a few other people as administrators, but no one else ever touches it.
- kristin buxton
I administer the Penrose Library page. I set it up about 1.5 years ago. I have a couple of other people as administrations, but same as with Kristin, no one else touches it. Then again, I don't touch it all that much, maybe once a month. I will send out some announcements on FB and Twitter. I have grown tired of FB quite a bit.
- Joe
I led an implementation group with members from various areas of the library (branches, IT, collections) to set ours up (http://www.facebook.com/uclibra...). We ended up giving each person one day of the week to check and respond to comments, and I'm backup if someone's on leave. I add events whenever library admin asks, and all our blogs feed onto the wall using Social RSS (though that can be buggy and miss some). It's been running this way about 6 months and so far everyone seems happy.
- Deborah Fitchett
I am the webmaster at our library, and I maintain it and keep it updated. There's others who are administrators, but like others here, no one else touches it. I mostly provide updates via Twitter, so we kill two birds with one stone for the time being.
- Miriella
In case you want more input, I set ours up and made the Distance Learning Librarian and our Libraries' Marketing Director co-admins. Only the DLL and I really update it, but it's easy and fun and the administration is cool with our judgement.
- Kaijsa Calkins
There are only a few of us, and no one is particularly web 2.0 around here, so, that would be me (the Director). Although, for event content I have it set-up so that the events posted to the website (technically a blog in "website" clothing) get pushed directly to FB and Twitter, so that saves me some work.
- Jessica
John, this is my favorite part: "Looking for a job? Lost your dog? Got a dull pain in your arm? We can't help with any of those. Try over at Scott Library."
- Joan
Well, now I'm curious. My objective in attending library school is to end up in an academic setting as a librarian. If I attended an online program how does one get themselves into a setting where they can learn what it is to be an academic librarian if the bulk (100%) of the work is online?
Yeah, I'm actually not sure why in-person school would necessarily help you learn this?
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
I did an online program and if anything I think it helped me understand students better, since more stuff is moving to online course sites.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
I think many of us associate on-campus programs with many opportunities for employment, etc. where it's understood that you are there to learn more than as a long-term job. Having never really had an internship, that plan didn't occur to me either.
- s t e v e
I think the most important thing is to be immersed, for work and school to be all about libraries. You don't need to attend f2f for this to happen; sometimes it just makes it easier.
- Joan
Meg, I guess I'm taking it for granted that in-person school would have an on-campus library and that the two go together. Is it safe to assume this isn't automatically the case?
- Derrick
Also, many f2f programs have ga-ships as part of the degree program, which can make life a lot easier and school a lot cheaper.
- Joan
Seconding Nikki - I did MLIS part time while working full-time in an academic med library (where I am employed). Also did a practicum in another academic med library for credit. I highly recommend to both on campus and remote students to get some practical experience in a library somewhere along the line.
- Rachel Walden
Oh, sure, but you wouldn't just hang out all day, every day, to watch them work, right? (PRO TIP: that will freak them out) And I think that you could get an internship at pretty much any academic library.
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
Good to know, Meg. Thanks for the insight. That puts me at ease for the ambivalence I had towards online programs.
- Derrick
Another data point: I'm almost done with my online MLIS, though I was already an academic librarian when I started, and had worked in reference for 3 years before that. I also had 10 days of f2f coursework at the beginning of my degree, and went back to campus for 8 days each summer to knock out a class. I've met about 3-4 people during those on-campus times who have become fantastic and supportive friends/colleagues.
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
Derrick, candidates who have an MLIS... and nothing else... just don't rise to the top of my candidate list. Ever. Because there are always candidates with a brand-new MLIS AND internships, part-time work experience, and/or volunteer gigs. Those people have more demonstrable experience to discuss in terms of success, failure, and relevance than the ones who don't have those experiences....
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- Jenica
I'm honestly surprised that internships aren't a required part of more library school programs. FWIW, I had ZERO prior experience *or* community in the library field before I began my online studies in fall 2006 & graduated in fall 2007 while working a non-library job & raising a family. I made (and am still making) the most of every opportunity. That gets you places.
- Nikki D.
Jenica, that helps a lot also. I'm still in my infancy of trying to determine which program is the best fit for me (although the costs are my biggest hurdle; I need to start looking at grants and scholarships as well), but all of this is really good information. I think I might widen my net a bit since I feel less intimidated by online only pgorams.
- Derrick
In my experience, there were no internships. We did have graduate teaching assistantships where you were placed in libraries on campus. The large public libraries also staff their desks on Sundays with library school students. If I were in a position to hire, I'd be more inclined to look at someone with a more well-rounded background rather than someone who has only worked in libraries....
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- cecily
FWIW, I never wanted to work in libraries when I entered library school. My first three jobs post-MLIS were all in corporations (of various sizes). Yet here I am, working at a public library, and I only took *one* course that had to do with public library services when I was in school. Where you land may not be where you plan. The more malleable you are around that fact, the better off you will be.
- cecily
And lastly, it isn't guaranteed that just because you're at a school with an MLIS program that they have a hand-in-hand arrangement with the libraries on their campus. Some do. Some don't. UBC has roughly 17 different libraries/service divisions where MLIS students *could* work, but when I was there, only about 3 grad assistantships opened up in a year.
- cecily
Cecily, I think that the more I arm myself with the knowledge I pick up here, the more I look forward to school. I think I what's best for me is a good, well-rounded program.
- Derrick
You can learn a lot. You can also start working yourself into a panic. EDIT: I guess my point is that it's a good idea to have a general idea of expectations before you begin to apply, but many of those expectations won't prove to be factual once you're actually in school. Your success in library school, just like any other professional school, will largely depend on what you bring to...
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- cecily
I think these are all just good things to think about, and to be able to ask the school about. In Derrick's case, I think working in higher ed before will be a very good thing to show when looking for that first professional job. How a person takes all this will depend on his/her makeup. I tend to need this kind of discussion to kick me out of a stupor and start thinking about it. Other people may be see all this stuff and just panic.
- s t e v e
Cecily, you know I love you. Thanks for that. And Steve, I forget that I already work in higher ed, and have for years. I really need to sit down and do a resume or CV; I haven't in a long time. Anyway, this is all really good information and I am indebted for what everyone's contributed.
- Derrick
PRECISELY. You got this already, babe. Stop worrying.
- cecily
*stops worrying* (but not about the GRE) *cries*
- Derrick
Tip for that, ask local libraries if they have access to http://www.gale.cengage.com/Testing... among their resources. Their GRE study tips & practice tests helped me because my fear of that test was a real barrier.
- Nikki D.
Nikki, that sounds awesome. I think what I have, more than anything, is just an irrational fear of the test. I have a year to conquer it. And try and do well. Thanks for the link.
- Derrick
Right, WORRYING is a waste of time. Also librarians = pathologically helpful. We will help you until you beg for mercy.
- s t e v e
Everybody has excellent advice. My strategy in library school was make it what I wanted it to me and to take advantage of every opportunity. Most importantly, I took the time to write about each course, job, internship, etc. in a reflective way that communicated how the experience was relevant to my career goals. It made job searching and interviewing so much easier to have already thought that stuff out.
- Kaijsa Calkins
Adding to Kaijsa's last comment, I found it useful to read job opening descriptions from various types of libraries I thought I was interested in to find out what some of the usual requirements/skills needed are.
- Rachel Walden
I did an in-person MLIS, and while I worked at one of the campus libraries (and a public library) while I was in school, the program didn't set that up for me, it was posted on one of the student mailing lists and I applied. The same could have easily happened in a distance program.
- kristin buxton
I should add I'm proactive to the point of nervy: I directly asked librarians whose jobs interested me about internship possibilities, my internship was not posted anywhere. I was the 1st here and there have been 2 others since (but they only hired me ;). The worst they can say is no. The best is that they'll realize you're a smart cookie and help things happen :)
- Nikki D.
You'll be amazed at what you'll learn in an online class. Because everyone needs to participate, you'll get a better understanding of their experiences and be able to learn from them. And there will likely be assignments that will have you interacting f2f with librarians and working with/in local libraries.
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
Nikki D++. Guts go a long way when you're new in the profession. I've talked to and/or helped a fair few students who approached me out of the blue -- and loved every minute of it, so DON'T think you're imposing on a librarian just by asking. Meeting proto-librarians feels like the best thing I do.
- D0r0th34
Late to the thread, but yes, remember that your pre-MLS experience can count for a lot. I went into library school intending to be a corporate librarian. I'm an academic librarian with business subject knowledge because of my pre-library school experience (I did get some library experience in school as a student assistant, but the big seller was my business knowledge).
- ÉllbeeÇee
I'm considering asking Santa for a Kindle as a cheap tablet reader for long pdfs that I refuse to print out. Can any Kindle owners confirm or deny reports that the non-DX Kindle is no good for reading pdfs because of a lack of zoom feature?
Hm. I tried a DX Kindle. From what I remember, a PDF where the text is actually text is resizaeable same as Kindle books are. But a PDF that is a page image (like the scans used in our college's electronic reserves) are not zoomable. I could be wrong, but that's what I recall.
- s t e v e
I put a PDF on my kindle2. It's readable (mostly) in landscape mode but completely illegible in portrait. No way to change the font size/zoom. I wouldn't want to read lots that way.
- kristin buxton
Thanks Rochelle for the link, but it was the first-person reports such as Kristin's that I was hoping for. I think I might have to ask around to get my mits on one in RL to see if its the reader for me.
- mita
I went to the public library today in Burbank to visit a friend who earned her MLIS and to inquire about volunteering there on the weekends. I was giddy with excitement. I know it can't all be ice cream cake and cookies (which was offered to me while I was there), but I think returning to school (and to libraries) is the right thing for me.
volunteering is a great idea -- you'll get a good idea of what it's like, warts & all. see if you like public libraries' brand of ice cream cake & cookies. :-)
- Stephanie_Thankful
I sent an online request to volunteer at the LA public library, but haven't heard back. I heard that they aren't the best organized organization, so I decided to look at smaller libraries in Burbank and Pasadena. I'm going into this wanting to work in an academic setting, but at this point, I'll be happy just to be in any library.
- Derrick
Also, you know how you like libraries? When you go out of town and you want to see them in the cities you visit. I'M TALKING TO YOU PORTLAND (Jan 8-11...).
- Derrick
ooh ooh ooh! Multnomah County's Central Library is a MUST. :)
- holly
Ok, this makes me feel like a bad librarian. Mostly, I could care less about other library buildings unless I have someone showing me around - I don't visit them when I'm on vacation typically (if they were something special, sure, but just generally? No). Ah well. I'll keep hanging out here in my ivory tower. ;)
- ÉllbeeÇee
Wonderful! Congrats on your decision, so excited for you and Libraryland!
- Victoria Plautia
I still say you should become a teen services librarian, and I'm going to keep saying it until I turn blue in the face. :)
- cecily
Cecily, there's so many aspects to what a librarian can do, I'm gobsmacked. I don't even know what a teen services librarian does. Can I search for that on Google or Wikipedia?
- Derrick
Heh. In public libraries, they tend to divide the people who work with the public into "adult services," "teen services," (both of which sound naughty) and "children's services" (which sounds like they deal with abused kids.
- s t e v e
Our teen librarian swears all the time. She also has some choice things to say about the Twilight series. (One of her big complaints: "Vampires are all about sex! These books are way too chaste! It's just wrong!")
- josh neff, geek at large
Yeah, the names of positions in librarianship are kinda funny. You could be a Special Librarian like me, cuz you're so special! But NOT like Special Olympics, I swear.
- Laura Norvig
As the Web Services librarian, I service the web. Which makes me sound like I'm a porny cam girl or something.
- cecily
I'm a Web Content Developer. I don't service anyone. Which, frankly, is wasting some of my talents. ;)
- josh neff, geek at large
cecily I try not to think to much about what my title of "web services librarian" actually means. I'm thinking of getting business cards that just say, "Other duties as assigned."
- DJF
Hang on, I'm working on getting my title changed to Web Services Librarian...
- Miriella
*attempts to change title to Web Services Librarian, fails, sulks back as an Instructional Services Librarian* Sigh. I'm never with the cool kids. ;)
- ÉllbeeÇee
Pfft LBC, you're so cool, you've got a cool kid group all by yourself. :P
- Miriella
This is so great, Derrick. I share your enthusiasm about libraries. :)
- Connie Crosby
Merry, I think that's called "sitting in the corner alone" :p
- ÉllbeeÇee
Are you at all interested in academic libraries as well? I can't offer a volunteer gig because we don't use volunteers, but if you ever wanted a library to visit in the area I'm at a fairly well-known academic institution in Pasadena :)
- kristin buxton
Kristin, I would most certainly prefer an academic institution! I'm currently work in Pasadena at a well known, but small center of art where I am also an alumnus. I'll sub to you and you can DM me. :)
- Derrick
PORTLAND IS TALKING BACK TO YOU. I work at Portland State. Look me up when you are in town.
- Joan
anybody have an opinion about the quality of titles put forward by nova science publishers? is it an appropriate publisher for university-level science education?
I'm looking for examples of library blogs that focus on the community surrounding the library, not just on the library itself. If you have examples, please list URLs.
(Primarily for the academic librarians)How are subject specialties handled at your library? Does every college/department have a subject librarian? Are those people also the liaisons to the departments? Where are the areas you think subject specialists are absolutely necessary?
Collections are divided up into broad subject ranges; information librarians into narrower subject ranges. The latter liaise with departments especially about teaching and infolit, some institutional repository stuff; but also each department has a liaison to the library (IME mostly about collections issues). The last question will require more thought which may or may not happen today. :-)
- Deborah Fitchett
We call ourselves liaisons, but I don't think it means the same here as it would to you. Yes, each department has a librarian, and we divvy them up primarily by division of the college (so I get Languages & Literature, someone else gets Arts, someone else gets social sciences, etc). Each librarian does the instruction and student appointments for his or her departments, and we do...
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- lris' ghost
Each division has 0-2 subject specialists who are also the liaisons who do collection development, a little instruction, tackle more complicated ref. questions, etc.
- kristin buxton
As you know, my library is like Iris's in terms of size and scope. Until recently we had four liaison librarians, one each for humanities (me), social sciences, natural sciences, and interdisciplinary programs. We do instruction for our departments, collection development, and departmental/divisional liaison stuff. The model is falling apart a bit, as there was always more demand on the...
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- s t e v e
We have departmental libraries and subject specialists, and are currently struggling to absorb some interdisciplinary changes to campus offerings, as well as other concerns in the light of trying to consolidate service points. A subject specialist is responsible for liaison work, collection development, teaching, outreach, whatever and however the librarian sees fit to organize those activities.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We have two Subject librarians - Education (College of Ed) & Music (College of Visual & Performing Arts). The rest of the departments got divvied up between the other 5 librarians on staff. As for the duties, well....those depend on the librarian. The two of us who are subject specialist by title offer quite a bit more to our faculty (IMO) than the rest. We do instruction, student...
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- ~Courtney F.
So I walked over to the shelf. I applied a test that Craig taught me when it comes to getting rid of stuff you don't need: "Do you use it? And if you don't use it, do you love it?"
- kristin buxton
Is your library offering reference service via SMS? If so, are you a) using the "AOL Hack" to send incoming text messages to your IM account, b) using Mosio's "Text a Librarian" (http://www.textalibrarian.com/), or c) something else?
Currently using a combination of services. We use Google Voice to LibraryH3lp gateway. We use my personal Google Voice account (comes to my phone; we've been doing this option for about 18-months). We just joined the InfoQuest project.
- Kenley Neufeld
I don;t know what's behind it, but here's the instructions we give students:(1) Send a text to 265010 (2) The message should start with our AIM buddy name (askillinois) and a colon., followed by your question
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
We are looking into getting a dedicated cell phone (with a nice QWERTY keyboard I hope) to try it out.
- Stephen Francoeur
Stephen. I think libraries have found the dedicated phone to be limited and costly. At this point, there are many options for SMS to chat/email options that would be easier on the usability front (real keyboard) and cost (many are free). Just a thought.
- Kenley Neufeld
To follow-up on Stephen's comment. Is anyone using a dedicated cell phone for the library text service? How's it working?
- Kenley Neufeld
Thanks, everyone, this is helpful. We're looking at using the AOL hack, since we already have an AIM screen name that we monitor for incoming IMs. We can't afford Mosio anyway, but I'm wondering if anyone who's using it would like to chime in on why they chose it over the AOL hack. The San Jose Public Library is using it (http://librarianinblack.net/librari...) but Sarah doesn't mention why they chose it.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Text a Librarian. Happy with the service so far, but have had very few questions so far.
- kristin buxton
We used a Blackberry for a year, now we're about to switch to using the Android app through libraryh3lp.
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
Oh, just saw Kenley's question. The people who were enthusiastic about SMS reference were fine with the phone. This way, though, the people who might be more apprehensive don't have to deal with it. It will look basically like IM (but with a character counter).
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
Well, then again, maybe we'll go with a browser-based interface and skip the phone option.
- Stephen Francoeur
Sorry to chime in later, but we're using the AOL hack.
- Laura H.
Went to the link. I just had to click on the "Online Courses" graphic on his site. Was somewhat disappointed in the results, actually.
- Peter Murray
Wow, I'm pretty offended at the idea that ALA is promoting snake oil like this.
- Jàson Puçkett
Conference Speaker FAIL (I wonder if this dude foresaw the reactions?)
- awd
NTS: During that time schedule offsite beverages with LSWers
- Abigail
PHil Spector has been on a lot of those shows, too. I'd much rather see him, even if via a feed from inside the prison where he'll be rotting. Can't wait to see what his prison stylist does to his hair.
- Rochelle Rochelle
StL: Ha! "foresaw the reactions" indeed.
- Peter Murray
He's one of the Auditorium Speakers. There's a big HarperCollins logo beside his name. I have no idea how that series works, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's a publisher slot and HC made the choice.
- DJF
Listed first in the preliminary conference program too!
- kristin buxton
And now I have yet another reason, on top of a pile of other reasons, why I'm no longer a member of ALA.
- Dan Messer
Dan, I'm not sure how ALA is the bad guy here -- the vendor (HarperCollins) is footing the entire bill for the speaker to promote his new book *as well as paying for space on the exhibits floor* -- how is ALA supposed to disallow a paying customer their presenter? "Praagh’s new book published in May from HarperCollins Publishers is entitled Unfinished Business: What the Dead Can Teach Us about Life."
- awd
Why is a vendor entitled to buttinski outside the exhibit floor? Thought professional conferences were for, you know, professionals and stuff.
- D0r0th34
"how is ALA supposed to disallow a paying customer their presenter?" If it was more obvious that this is a deal where ALA provides the space and publishers pay to send whomever they want to sell books--like author appearances at vendor's booths in the exhibits--I'd agree. But this dude is listed in the same group with the ALA and PLA Presidents' Programs, making him look like an invited...
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- s t e v e
Steve: that was exactly my confusion. The "Auditorium Speakers" series is a jumble of authors and ALA speakers, and at the head of the list in the preliminary program it says, "more to come." My first reaction is that this is an ALA program, not an infomercial stream. Aside from that, yeah, whatever. It's one less thing to try to get to in that timeslot.
- DJF
As long as not one red cent of ALA money is going towards his fee or space rental, I could care less. If this is my organization at work, then I have a beef. And I do have a beef over how impossible it is to tell which is which.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
You know, I dig the problem with not being able understand who is paying for this guy, but I don't really see other objections. Lots of people write lots of silly books. ALA always hosts a cross-section of authors, some serious and/or literary, some pretty schlocky.
- s t e v e
True, Jenica, but this is already far more entertaining that what I'd get when most library peeps are awake. And do you really think I won't use this? Me?
- Greg Schwartz
Alex, I could rephrase, but what fun is that? For the library conference fans, I also offer the following point to ponder: "There's no such thing as an Internet Librarian."
- Greg Schwartz
I hate Mathew because he hates bacon.
- Alex Scoble
So tell me about this professional commenting thing. Could it be the hot new librarian career? ;)
- D0r0th34
Hey library folk, STOP TWITTERING AND PAY ATTENTION!
- Alan Simpson
I would suggest the opposite of your phrase: "There is no such thing as a non-Internet Librarian" Discuss.
- Jason Griffey
from twhirl
Griffey--what about one of my graduate professors? She hand wrote responses to emails--convinced if she touched a computer it would explode. Would she be non-internet?
- Abigail
Griffey, I'd like to refute that assertion, but my Google search turns up nothing.
- Greg Schwartz
D0r0th34, if y'all had failed me, I'd be outsourcing to Mechanical Turk.
- Greg Schwartz
just learned a new word!....Internet Librarian and Computers in Libraries could both be considered pleonasms....would be fun to come up with some updated conference names :)
- Jennifer Johnson
When will bacon be allowed in libraries?
- B. Hatin
i'll volunteer and post a link i posted yesterday regarding libraries increased usages during thses economic times http://www.dailypress.com/news...
- chaz2b
It's the "Social Network Profile Management" panel. I'm sure you can see the irony, as the above comments would indicate that my social network is entirely unmanageable. And that's why I love it so.
- Greg Schwartz
Hey, Greg! Looks like a bunch of Shovers and Makers are posting here!
- Laura B.
Volunteer commenter at your service - good luck with the presentation!
- Stephanie Zimmerman
It probably depends on what you'd consider remedial... but I found that while I had a great conference, I didn't learn that much tech-wise.
- kristin buxton
Because I've rarely known a self-respecting geek to admit to say a kind word about Windows, much less Vista, the favorite whipping boy of a plethora of geeks :P
- Adam Lasnik
Okay, now the dislike is starting to set in. My parents' scanner? Not supported (and not slated to be supported) in Vista, so basically it's a big paperweight. Printer? Supposedly maybe supported, but there are howls of frustration all over the net that HP and MS are pointing fingers. So, another paperweight. My mom noted, "Great. So this is Microsoft's collusion to get us to buy more stuff." Hmm :(
- Adam Lasnik
What surprises me most is that they (MS + hardware + software people) still have so many problems with Vista. It's not like it's from a few months ago, it's pretty darn old already.
- John μller
I had a similar embarrassed reaction when I set up my own new computer (figured I'd try vista before figuring out how to "downgrade" and then didn't bother). I found I could turn off most of the new "features" and make it look mostly like XP. A couple of small annoyances, a couple of small benefits. Like you, the one problem is the scanner, so I'm just using it with the laptop for now instead.
- kristin buxton
Yeah, Eldon, I really like that, too! And as it turns out, both my dad's printer and scanner were ~8-10 years old, so I can kinda understand them not being supported. It was just frustrating for my parents, 'cause they (rightly) noted, "But they still work... worked just fine before this new computer!" The other thing that's frustrating is that Vista asks for permission for EVERYTHING... to the point where it's gonna get to be cry-wolf'y ("Would you like us to reformat your HD?" "Yes, dammit...ohhh no!")
- Adam Lasnik
LexisNexis Academic does not provide the "browse issue" feature found in some databases. However, you can easily construct a search to retrieve all articles from a specific date or date range.
- kristin buxton
Online Marketing for Library, presented by Sarah Houghton-Jan, presented on May 8, 2008. Discover Your LibraryThing, featuring Tim Spalding and Cindy Hart, sponsored by the Virginia Beach Public Library, and recorded on April 18, 2008.
- kristin buxton