"I remember when Saturday Night Live use to make fun of the Trac II razor (a razor with 2 blades, that I actually use) by showing a mock commercial for the triple trac razor and how with 3 blades it can get even closer to the skin than anything. It was hysterical and it was obviously a stupid idea. Well now they actually produce such a razor, plus more."
- Keith Barrett
"I remember when Saturday Night Live use to make fun of the Trac II razor (a razor with 2 blades, that I actually use) by showing a mock commercial for the triple trac razor and how with 3 blades it can get even closer to the skin than anything. It was hysterical and it was obviously a stupid idea. Well now they actually produce such a razor, plus more."
- Keith Barrett
"I remember when Saturday Night Live use to make fun of the Trac II razor (a razor with 2 blades, that I actually use) by showing a mock commercial for the triple trac razor and how with 3 blades it can get even closer to the skin than anything. It was hysterical and it was obviously a stupid idea. Well now they actually produce such a razor, plus more."
- Keith Barrett
This is a great piece for many reasons: not the least of which is, I agree with your position. I too am old enough to remember computing before Microsoft. I also wept as MS destroyed or diluted every good idea that stood in the way of its mediocre products; and now that they are considered "normal" any suggestion of a better alternative is either inconcievable or too late because you...
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- practicehacker
It's a shame I can't yet consolidate comments from other platforms (like Facebook) to here because there were others that also agree. Just yesterday systems admins performed a "sanity reboot" of a unix server because it had been up for over 180 days without incident. There are just so many things wrong with that point of view I don't know where to begin.
- Keith Barrett
Keith - do you use BackType? That's what I use to consolidate my comments.
- practicehacker
from email
I was using Disqus. There is a newer one out (can't remember the name) that grabs all the comments from across all social platforms.
- Keith Barrett
Then it's not going to suceed. Even co-branded it seems unlikely the price would drop to the ~$250 price point it would need, and that's not counting your monthly service.
- Keith Barrett
from Android
If Scobleizer is at the top of most popular list for the service, the web service has NOT gone mainstream yet. For instance, a year ago I was at top of Twitter. Today, no. But today I'm at the top of FriendFeed. When I get passed you will know this has gone mainstream. Compare Twitter's popular: http://twitterholic.com/ with FriendFeed's http://www.ffholic.com/Users...
- Robert Scoble
You are way ahead of Kim Kardashian on here. Congrats.
- Ben Hanten
I say when porn starts move to a service, it becomes mainstream. Same happened to Twitter, streaming videos and so on.
- Veetrag
Yes, Twitter gamed this list by doing a suggested user list (@techcrunch had fewer followers than I did before they did this list and didn't put me on it) but lots of these people would have passed me anyway like @oprah -- so, this is how you can check if a service has gone mainstream.
- Robert Scoble
I thought it was when a Hollywood celeb claimed he or she was responsible for the societal adoption
- Keith Barrett
It is interesting, though, that popularity over on Twitter hasn't passed over to popularity on FriendFeed. Most followers that come from "mainstream" won't try new things.
- Robert Scoble
Mark: I expect it. The real measure, by the way, is NOT follower counts, which is why these lists aren't very good, but engagement. Do people click favorite, retweet, like, comment, do things because of the content you are making and the things you are putting into the system. That's the real measure of popularity that I wish sites like ffholic would track.
- Robert Scoble
@Oprah doesn't follow back, so she's not as much fun as you are.
- RobinDotNet
Robin: that's not why I'm more fun. I'll actually comment back. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Ah, the John Lennon test. ("The Beatles are bigger than Jesus.") ??? (not meant to be as snarky as it sounds)
- Laura Scott (@lauras)
Robert -- EXACTLY! Oprah's just using it to broadcast stuff, and not often at that. Zzzzzzz.
- RobinDotNet
Robin: I hate the idea that being followed is what makes you important. I wish that those numbers wouldn't be published in public. I'd far prefer seeing an "interaction" number. That would still show popularity (after all, if 20 people are following me, and 10 are following you, and we interact the same, I would still have twice the number of you). Actually, I wonder how you could measure that?
- Robert Scoble
One of the things that bugs me about Twitter is that they refer to those you follow as your "friends". I actually don't like the term followers either. I don't "follow" @aplusk nor am I his friend. I read his tweets because once in a while he says something interesting. I do have friends on Twitter, but most of the people I read have never corresponded with me and they do not read my...
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- Paul The Raven
Paul: Exactly. I made a "get satisfaction" request of Twitter a year ago to allow us to create categories of people, so I could distinguish my real friends from people I just follow. It got some support, but was never done. One of the many ways Friendfeed is better.
- Keith Barrett
@Keith Barrett The beauty of Twitter is its simple model, complicate like you are suggesting and it will implode. There are plenty of apps that provide those functions, like Tweetdeck, Seesmic - use them if you wish to break out into categories.
- Amy Flynn
Robert! I love your new new measuring tool! I am going to ask every service I encounter what their "Scoble Number" is and if they can't provide me one, I'm walking!! ;-) I'll take it a step further, I think all blogs should have a Scoble Number we can display, the number of visits and reads from Scoble! The Scoble System... it's plan and it's doable! You on it?
- Amy Flynn
Amy: heh. That is taking things too far.
- Robert Scoble
What's the "Scoble Number" on MySpace ... I hear it's the next big thing. ;)
- Paul Holmes
In the spirit of an apparent new school year: "Good morning Mr. Scoble..." (using a nasally voice helps to achieve desired effect)
- Chad Gesser
from iPhone
keep doing posts like this please Robert. I love them.
- Thomas Power
Note don't post your full address here as the spambots will grab it, also I'll add people but I'm being selective. :-) Note too you could actually use FriendFeed as an IM client if you use DMs and turn on IM notifications for them here: http://friendfeed.com/setting... - you're more likely to get hold of me via FF DM #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Hey! Would love to be a chat buddy, however had trouble getting to DM you, I think its because of Twitter's troubles lately, for some reason even Friendfeed is not cooperating, doesn't surprise me though because of the integration of Twitter's API , .... so try and DM me I guess (sigh) ... I'll be glad when everything (Twitter) is back to normal (/frustrated) Tim J @ WWW.MHWD.ORG
- Tim Tunnicliff
from email
"darksydeavenger" without the quotes would be the addy at which you could reach my gtalk. Not on it much, but when I am I get chatty.
- Jonathan Hardesty
Yeah for some reason FF would erase the content inputted by me from within the "To" text field in Direct Messages area. I could not get it to stick, not sure why. Didn't have any problems before when I went to DM someone else in the past, got to be a glitch Tim J @ WWW.MHWD.ORG
- Tim Tunnicliff
from email
Did you know you could send tweets from Gtalk, just add twitter@twitter.com as a buddy, also works for PIng,fm (and Hellotxtx), see here for more: http://www.labnol.org/interne.... Any other useful bots?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, twitter does IM again? I wrote im@twitterspy.org which is about where twitter was when I first started. You can do most things you'd do on twitter (post, follow, leave, search) and some things you can't (track, etc..)
- Dustin Sallings
Shame there is no version of Gtalk for my Nokia! :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Dustin, ah OK, just it's offline. I use Hellotxt anyway. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Twitter's IM has been offline for well over a year. I wrote twitterspy because that was the useful part of twitter for me (and it's over a year old now). Try out im@twitterspy.org if just for track. That's where I find a good lot of information.
- Dustin Sallings
There's always the ProcessOne Twitter/XMPP gateway. I can't remember the URL at the moment, though.
- Tyson Key
The ProcessOne gateway came out about six months after twitterspy (open source) and still doesn't do much of what twitterspy does, much less better. A few of them came out after mine. Most of them seem to miss the point. Of course, I'm always glad to have people point out things twitterspy doesn't do well enough.
- Dustin Sallings
Dustin, added it. Not sure I like that I have to enter my password though.
- Kol Tregaskes
startoestudio@gmail.com - it's my place for social media!
- Martha
There's the Jingle stuff, although that only functions properly with Google's proprietary client for Windows. :(
- Tyson Key
Wow - so far I've really been into this user exchange thing, but I can't bring myself to share the IM handle. I love GTalk too, mind you - I just can't handle that much direct communication. It's a bit too much like giving out my phone number, I guess.
- Ciaoenrico
Fair enough, Ciaoenrico. I'm being selectively too.
- Kol Tregaskes
mithrandi@mithrandi.net (my own Jabber server, not GTalk, but it should work anyway); also mithrandi@gmail.com but I'm usually not signed into that much, it's mostly for Google Reader purposes.
- Tristan Seligmann