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Jeremiah Owyang
@coverby my hiring manager and friend at Forrester gives news of my departure http://blogs.forrester.com/marketi... (also seeking my replacement)
Congrats - love to hear what your next thing is - Erno Hannink
Congrats and cheers. All the best to you, JO - Dave Martin
Congratulations, Jeremiah. Don't tell us you're going to Dachis too! - Daniel B. Honigman
Best of luck to you, Jeremiah! - MichelleBB
Ahh, you keep the world guessing for a week ... ;-) - Zoli Erdos
good luck - Nisse from fftogo
Best of luck, Jeremiah! When do we get to see the news in your "on the move in social media" series? ;-) - Jesse Stay
Good luck on your new endeavor, Jeremiah - Chris Duffy
Good luck in your next venture! - Kevin Krewell
Best of luck ! - Nir Ben Yona
Good luck! "going back into the field to apply the trends" huh? - Kevin Sablan
good luck - Nisse from fftogo
Kevin --it means I'm going to apply where I see the future headed. - Jeremiah Owyang
It's a brave move to leave a job in this economy. But I imagine there are many opportunities in your future! Good luck! - Liz
Good luck! - Rafe Needleman
Moving target. Very cool. You know we'll be following. - Kevin Sablan
Can't wait to see what's next Jeremiah. - Hutch Carpenter
very nice to hear the news from Forrester...you keep raising the bar on us, Jeremiah! - Zena Weist
Thank you for what you have contributed so far, I'm sure there is more to come. I look forward to watching and reading your next chapter! Good luck! - David Cole
So I saw. It was your decision, then, to move on? What's next for the big J? - Ari Herzog
we don't even know what you are up to next but anxiously await the news because we know it will be good for all - daniela barbosa
onwards and upwards. work out a gig that means you can spend more time at home, and less time washing your hands with steriliser! - James
Good luck to you! And from a selfish point of view I hope your new gig allows for your insights to continue being published. I know I'm not the only one who's learned a lot from your writings. - Matsis
Everyone will be waiting to hear what the next gig is and all will be following as usual. Your shoes will be hard to fill at Forrester but I know that they know they had quite a guy and will do what needs to be done. Best of Luck to a real professional social media guy! - courtney benson
looking forward to your next move - Best of luck! - Bill Sanders
good luck! - Kingsley Joseph
Wishing you the best, Jeremiah, and I look forward to seeing you soon! - Cathryn Hrudicka
All the best! - ravi karandeekar
Wishing you the best, Jeremiah! You've made a major contribution to the social media space. It will be exciting to see what you're up to next. - Cathryn Hrudicka
Best of luck Jeremiah! I hope we will continue to benefit from your insights in your next venture. - Kaan Bingol
good luck dude! - imabonehead
Good timing. - Francine Hardaway
Nice! I knew they couldn't cage you up much longer, Superman! - Rocky Barbanica
Good luck! - Mitchell Tsai
Well done - a great send off, too! - WorldofHiglet
Shannon Paul
No more Montana... Just crossed over into Idaho, home of Napoleon Dynamite. Sweet!
warren sukernek
@jess3 My pleasure. The Twitterverse image is a great visual. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
John Minni
@cobweb Atari 800 with a tape drive, disk drive, 300 baud modem, basic, Nolan Bushnell rules!
Robert Scoble
I am watching CNN and seeing bad employment numbers from US auto industry. Interesting, though, here in China US brands, like Buick, are very popular.
That's refreshing. US Autos need some good news (especially here in Detroit), regardless where it is coming from - Ken Burbary
Toyota own's here in Uganda, American cars are very hard to find. - Jon Gosier from feedalizr
It's likely that in China US brands are popular because they're an import and therefore a status symbol. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
US brands like Buick are actually made in China. They're popular because historically before China was communist, Buick was a very popular brand. So when GM entered the market in the 90s, they thought they'd begin by bringing a well recognized brand back. It worked. Became status symbol for all government officials and wealthy folks. Now they're introducing other GM lines like Cadillac etc. - Christine Lu
Very cool, Christine =) - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Interesting about the Buick "brand's" adoption. When I visited (Guangzhou) China in 1987, Mercedes seemed to be the popular auto (and truck) there (aside from waves of bicycles). - Jim Courtney
Buick seemed very popular 2+ years ago, when it was primarily the only car on the road, but now don't see it that often in Shenzhen or Songjiang. (there are few re-branded cars there sold as Buicks, like the Suzuki) Buicks in the US use Chinese engines, but the cars I think are made in the US(though it is cheaper to replace the whole engine nowadays then to fix parts). You will notice slight refinement differnces; such as how much better a German VW is made VS a Shanghai VW. - clarke thomas
I read an article, I'm pretty sure it was about Buick, how they designed a model in a Chinese design shop specifically to appeal to the Chinese market. - mikepk
And at Ford, we've seen profitable results this quarter in South America and Europe, where the Blue Oval is particularly popular. - Scott Monty
All the western brands are majority-owned joint-ventures by Chinese. Mercedes is still the most prestigious brand for government officials, and Audi for the richest in China. - Joshua Allen
@Christine Lu: That's very interesting. Though I did guess they were produced in China. I wonder if there is ANY real goods import from the US to China. - Amit Morson
"There were some bright spots around the globe for GM. It saw a solid 4.3% jump in sales in China, even as industrywide sales there declined, allowing it to pick up market share. China has become an increasingly important market for GM, one which accounts for more than one in ten vehicles it sells worldwide." - http://money.cnn.com/2008... - Steve Wilhelm
Buicks rock. My Buick set on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Thomas Hawk
the auto industry has been have problems for a long long time, just ask anyone who lives in the state of Michigan which has been in a one-state recession for almost 5 years - Jonathan Jesse
The problem is that money is sitting offshore. Corporations aren't going to bring it back into the US just to lose 35% to taxes. - Chris Mayer
Agreed, Chris. That's why potential auto manuf. bailouts are disgusting to me. They made their beds by just moving junk metal and pumping up stock returns, instead of focusing on making a good product matching customer desires and making profits through customer satisfaction. Hope China can learn lessons from us. - Kevin Leroux
I don't know if its wise to save the big three. Capitalism is about renewing the old and I cant see Ford, GM, and Jeep changing anytime soon. What if we let them fail. Doesn't that give companies like Tesla a real chance of changing cars in this country? - Erik Weese
president-elect obama will bail out the big three, think about he has massive support from the unions and also has governor granholm (of michiga) on his economic transition team. we definitely see an economic bailout for the big 3. also i doubt very little limits on these companies as any more would put even more constraints on them and more job loss/facotry closure, less union employees, etc - Jonathan Jesse
Erik... are you saying if we lose Ford GM and Jeep then we'll all be able to afford Tesla cars? How's that work, exactly? - Michael Markman
Well, American brands are actually quite popular overseas. People actually consider it a.. mark of wealth of sorts, if that makes any sense. In some countries, anyway. Which is a good thing for us, of course. Whatever little help we can get, we probably could use. Also, by what I heard on CNN last night, it sounds like Ford doesn't need a bailout as much as GM does. - deepikaur
Yes, Ford seems to be better positioned. GM has been having issues for quite a while; years. I really do not think Chrysler learned from their last bailout round and that bothers me. - Robert Miller
Steve Rubel
My Lifehacker guest post on social productivity is now live. http://lifehacker.com/398049...
These are some great tips, Steve. I'm thinking of banning myself from using FF inside work hours (especially after lunch). There are so many things I find very interesting, and that can eat away at my working day. - Chris Nixon
Great post Steve! Along the lines of tracking your online time: I was using Wakoopa, but it became pointless during my client application boycott. Was telling me that I was using Firefox 99% of the time, which I already knew. Check out MeeTimer: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US... - Kevin C. Tofel
Really great post. I'm curious to see how FF will evolve into your ever-efficient workflow. - David Weiner
thanks for the link Steve, enjoyed your article :) - Shey, Jamaican of FF
congrats - Fred Grott
Great post - if only I had the will power to ask the tough question...but I'm afraid the answer would be, "Stop reading and get to work!!" - George Smith
These are really nice hacks, must be very useful when social media is part of one's job - unfortunately hardly when social media IS one's job. I am actually afraid of even attempting to track my social media activities on a calendar as I'm sure the results will be terrifying and I'll have to figure out what I will do once FriendFeed and Twitter are both down :) - Svetlana Gladkova
Congrats Steve on the guest post on Lifehacker... neat! - Susan Beebe
Technorati was your favorite productivity tool, why don't you mention it anymore? - paul mooney
I agree with setting time for social media. I check FF, Twitter and Feedly with my morning coffee, lunch time and then after 5. Congrats on the post! - Jill Howard Allen
Ian Schafer
Friendfeed Caught Stacking Its Deck. - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Ian Schafer
From IanSchafer.com: Video of My Panel at the Conversational Marketing Summit. http://www.ianschafer.com/2008...
Chris Brogan
There's more than one way to skin the revenue cat - http://www.37signals.com/svn...
selling a product or service has yet to go out of style - joshuabacker
James Sanders
Digging Ping.fm right now. DM me for a beta code if you need. - http://blog.jamessandersii.com/post...
Chris Brogan
Community and Social Network Vendor Blogs - http://mikeg.typepad.com/percept...
Jeremiah Owyang
So many are getting it wrong, it's Twitter AND Friendfeed, it's not Twitter OR Friendfeed. Agree or Disagree?
at the moment, yes. but that doesn't need to be the case in future - Jamie
Yes to both currently. - Paul W. Swansen
Of course its both... as Shel says: "New Media don't kill Old Media." Does this mean Twitter is now 'old media' - David Phillips
Agree. Twitter for a-synchronous talk, Friendfeed for more extended discussion. For me that is:) - Martijn Verver from twhirl
I've been preaching that for awhile now... Use twitter as a broadcast and FF for the conversation. It's a relationship that works. - Vince DeGeorge
absolutely agree, but I am wondering whether they are going to be the "defacto" standards. - Rob Diana
Agree. - John Samuelson
I hope it will be only Friendfeed soon. Doesn't anybody else get tired of all these different kind of networks? Sometimes monopoly is a good thing. Let's all head over to MSN ;-) - Rutger Blom from twhirl
mine is a little more extreme - friendfeed mostly & twitter rarely - i do push my ff's to twitter & i check my twitter replies & dm sometimes - i would like to get to the point where all my friends are in friendfeed and i no longer need to go to twitter at all - i used to like whales ;) - mike "glemak" dunn
Agree. They are different and both ueful in different ways. I see no need to choose between them just yet. I'm using Plurk too, which is different again - very informal conversation. - jjprojects
Disagree. Reason? Time. I don't have time for multiple services. For me, right now at least, it's FF. - Steve Rubel
Jury is still way, way out. - Warner Crocker
tiwtter is short and sweet.... ff is for discussions... i think they both have a niche - c010depunkk from twhirl
Disagree. You needn't use one to use the other. And, like Steve, I'm serviced-out. - Chris Baskind
agreed - Mona Nomura
You don't need one to use the other but they sure are handy to use together - John Blanton from twhirl
Haven't maid up my mind yet, but it seems that the different services and their approaches fill different needs. Undecided for now! - tekspectator
Exactly! Why does it have to be "either" "or"? - Steve
I definitely agree. It is frustrating to have people insist one is better than the other. Two totally different beasts. - Shawn Farner from twhirl
could not agree more. probably the best twitter, FF comment in a long time. - Bastian
Agree! At this point, FF's comment functionality isn't good enough to replace Twitter for me. With Twhirl, it doesn't seem like tool overload to use both. - jen robinson from twhirl
Apart from twitter's SMS interface.. what is missing (for you) in FF? @ ? - Kishore Balakrishnan
Its FF only. reaons against Twitter : (a) Twitter whaling to often (b) not easy to track/thread twitter replies together. FOR FF (1) FF stable (2) FF Conov enabler/agggreagator (3) I like it better :)- - Peter Dawson
An integrated solution with both would be best. Twittering out of FriendFeed - that's my dream! - Matthias Schwenk
Oh definitely agree. They are symbiotic beasts - Deepak Singh
Agree absolutely, when social media tools complement, the sum become greater than the parts - Charlie Hope from twhirl
@ Matthias you can comment back from FF in Twitter already... - Charlie Hope from twhirl
and, and, and... there's Utterz, Flickr, blog, etc. etc. etc. -- so, yes. It all goes together. FriendFeed has a chance to become a hub (the way Twitter is foe me now, but more so), if it can somehow tame itself - Doug Haslam from twhirl
Funny how this comes to my attention now as Twitter is not updating for me, but FF is. I love how I can reply to FF via @Twhirl. That is a dynamic combintion. - Tracy Lee Carroll from twhirl
@Matthias I wonder if someone has created a tool that takes your own FF posts and makes a tweet from it? You'd need to turn off tweets in FF otherwise there would be a feedback loop that would eventually destroy the universe. - Elliot Tucker
agree - Dieter Schwarz
elliot: twitterfeed does that, put in your ff atom feed and remove your twitter feed from ff - mike "glemak" dunn
Agree....finally somebody comes out and says it as it should be said :) - Arjun
it's both right now - if you have group of people in Twitter then it is both - otherwise the conversation is moving more into friendfeed on a greater range of topics so for those not so tied to twitter it is twitter or friendfeed - Riaz Kanani
Disagree. Twitter has crossed the line. It is dead to me and too much of the time it is dead to everyone. - Dave Slusher
I kind of agree. There's too much noise on FriendFeed to have simple, conversational, exchanges. - Bill Bittner
thanks mike - Elliot Tucker
If Twitter doesn't get its act together, it will be FriendFeed and no Twitter. I'm revisiting FriendFeed today after a nice hiatus - Michael Koby from Alert Thingy
Completely agree. - Parth Awasthi from twhirl
This is be being real: I love Twitter, and don't get me wrong, I think FriendFeed is cool, too.. but I think Facebook will ultimately adopt the killer features of both and wipe them out. - Shawn Farner from twhirl
Elliot, you can try feeding your FF entries feed into Twitterfeed.com. - Dewald Pretorius
And probably many other services we'll adopt - Sally Robinson
Agreed. FF, to me, is more of a reading rather than authoring experience - Michael Lehman
Agree. Friend Feed is my Twitter extension for comments and groups - Jon Bishop
Yep, I use both. - Brent Newhall
Agree! - Sarah Perez
Agree; tell me though, does Pownce = Twitter + FriendFeed [or vice-versa] or am I just being thick? Twhirl posts to Pownce for me as well, but taking Rafe Needleman's advice and not tracking multiple communities. FF good for posts too long for Twitter - Justin Guy Souter from twhirl
FriendFeed > Twitter for me. I feel more value when I post here first. - Steve Isaacs
agree, and, in between Twitter and Friendfeed , many other indispensible things are included. - Nikos Anagnostou
Agree! - Marc Dierens
twitter for messaging, friendfeed for aggregation - Tyler Gillies
Agree 100% - Mike Doeff
What Mike said. AND is IMPT. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I agree. I still just wish that twitter is more stable. - Alan Le
agree!! - edythe
I definitely agree. FriendFeed is not a Twitter replacement. - Jake (aka Jawee) from twhirl
agree for now, but not forever... - Jeremy Toeman
well I would have to agree as I do use both.. it seems obvious they are different things. - Karl from twhirl
Both - but grudgingly. Honestly? The only reason I go to FF is because some of my Twitterpals migrated here and won't come back. Twitter is my main gal - FF is my Friday night stand-in. If I could do away with FF I would. - Lucretia Pruitt
Twitter is too myopic to last much longer. Our online lives are a lot more complicated than 140 characters. - David Weiner
How much time to we all have?? There are use cases for both twitter and friend feed. Some people WILL choose one or the other. There are functional aspects that i like about both. For me it is both. - Rodney Rumford
Its neither - it's what fits your structure and how you want to connect. If you want actual conversations and build on relationpships, IMO, Plurk is good at that. FF seems too cluttered but aggregates a lot information together. Twitter is still good for me and is a great broadcast tool, some communication, and a lot of industry heads that you can learn from. - Sonny Gill
It's becoming less and less so. I'd much rather have one service I can do it all on and FriendFeed satisfies that much better. Twitter still has things FF doesn't though so for what FF doesn't satisfy, I will continue to use Twitter for. - Jesse Stay from twhirl
I suppose I could go with the AND if FF offered a pure stream like twitter. I really don't like the threaded conversation presentation ... but maybe that's because I mostly use twirl? - Clint
Agree *completely*! - Kasey Sistrunk Anderson
You're almost right. I get what you're getting at. But the two are different and will grow separate paths with some common features. - phil baumann
phil, if they do grow in separate paths, that's great! I'll continue using both! However, I will not continue to use both for the same reasons. I'm removing the duplicate effort lately and consolodating what I can over to FriendFeed, leaving the remaining effort to Twitter. - Jesse Stay from twhirl
My other concern is that Twitter just doesn't have the expertise up high to make it a successful service. You will see the FF founders frequently engaged in conversations about FF on their service. I have yet to see a single Twitter founder engage in any of the critiques or compliments about their service on Twitter. - Jesse Stay from twhirl
FF ideal for social discovery as long as folks hooking up enough of their services. I like the "noise" of FF. - Stephen Francoeur
...and Plurk, and Facebook, and Pownce, and Jaiku, and more to come. Twitter for its simplicity and all the add-on apps and all the others for conversations or smaller groups with specific interests. - Brenda Young
agree! - Clay Newton
Agree! To me, it's "FriendTweed" - David Cook
Just for you Jeremiah (Just a rough draft) http://tinyurl.com/55eof3 - David Cook
currently it's only Friendfeed cause twitter has lowered the allowed API requests. I don't use Twitter via web - Frank Hamm
Completely agree - Peggy Gartin
Pretty much agree. - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Twitter+FriendFeed! - Igor Poltavskiy
Agree - Summer
Kevin
I started teaching my 12 year old how to code today, using his asus eee pc and a Beginner's Ruby book http://twurl.nl/a3o3zk
Awe-some! - Ken Burbary from twhirl
Dan Lewis
Dear Microsoft. Thanks for the $15 bn valuation. We still hate IE. Love, Facebook. - http://dlewis.net/2008...
Facebook is boring. - Thomas Hawk
Karen Swim
5 Ways To Use Google Reader As Your Personal Social Search Centre - http://smithereensblog.blogspot.com/2008...
Thanks for the share and the comment Karen! - Daniel Smith
MG Siegler
iPhone 3G Price: $199!
BOOM - MG Siegler
8 gigabytes - MG Siegler
BOOM - Caleb Elston
yes, the 3G one - MG Siegler
now that was a BOOM - Frederic
Okay, I'll take one. - Andre Heinrichs
affordable to almost everyone - MG Siegler
Holy Hell! - JA Castillo
Yes! - Mike Doeff
16 gig: $299 and in WHITE - MG Siegler
Subsidized? - Cyndy
That means Touch will be cheaper, too - Andre Heinrichs
Yes, - Ben Parr
Incredible. I will get two. - Lars Trieloff
one for the wife - one for me - Frederic
wOOt! who's shorting NOKIA :p - Blake Burris
when will it ship? - Andre Heinrichs
stocks heading up - Frederic
I think I can see why they dried up the channel a month ago. Nobody can complain they *just bought* a $399 iPhone. - Kevin Fox
The contract lasts your lifetime and the lifetime of your children though. Gotta read the small print. - Chris Ridenour
BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! - Tadhg Kelly
finally an affordable version of the phone - Chris Jones
FF needs a Super Like for things like this. - Stanton Champion
That sound you heard was Twitter crashing as everyone simultaneously typed "$199!!!" - Ken Sheppardson
wonder if this involves a rebate - Nicholas Molnar
I want one of these. - Andre Heinrichs
no rebates - sounds like that's the price - Frederic
If only the service wasn't twice as much as what I pay for exactly the same thing. Sprint gives me 3G, unlimited data, unlimited text for $30 / month. The only thing that sucks is I'm using Windows Mobile and not an iPhone :( - Benjamin Golub
Reminder: 199 USD that is 126 EUR. - Lars Trieloff
@Ben That includes voice?? - Cyndy
Cyndy; yup, $30 gets me 500 minutes, 7pm nights and weekends free, unlimited data/text see here: http://delivery.sprint.com/m... - Benjamin Golub
The bigger annoucement will be how this affects the tarrif! - Joe Dawson
MG Siegler
iPhone 3G: Battery life, 300 hours standby time
2g talk time up to 10 hours, 3g talk time: 5 hours - MG Siegler
industry leading 3g talk time - MG Siegler
5-6 hours of high-speed browsing - MG Siegler
video 7 hours of play time, audio 24 hours - MG Siegler
5 hours of talk - damn. I don't want to talk to anyone for 5 hours. - Kevin D. White
beat you frederic :) - MG Siegler
You are faster than any of the sites. - Steve Rubel
That's a Nerdgasm I'm hearing - Andre Heinrichs
FF has best WWDC coverage. So much faster than any other sites - Ken Burbary
Didn't they say 5 hours out of the MacBook Air too? - Chris Ridenour
dunno, but i get 5 hours out of my macbook air if i am careful. - Sam Pullara
@Ken but Macrumors has pictures to salivate over. - Cyndy
@Sam with Airport off? - Cyndy
MG Siegler
huge applause - MG Siegler
it's beautiful, side profile, thinner at edges - MG Siegler
"And today we're introducing the Ip--" *crushing cheering so I can't hear what it was* :-) - Kevin Fox
full black plastic black - MG Siegler
same 3.5 inch display - MG Siegler
GOTTA love it - Rachael
flush headphone JACKS! - MG Siegler
improved audio - MG Siegler
feels even better in your hand - MG Siegler
"Today w'ere introducing the iPhone 3G." - some people almost had a heart-attack. - AJ Batac
metal buttons - MG Siegler
i hope introducing == "selling" and selling means it's got iPhone2 on board... - felix
that was quite a built-up - Frederic
Mommy, when? - Steve Rubel
@mg, time to give me more shit for buying an iphone in march - Eric Eldon
I'd like to see anyone else get that sort of applause from "flush headset port" ;) - Blake Burris
Flush headphone jack, dammit I paid £70 quid for earphones that fit this thing! - Gez
The rumors are almost head-on this year... - AJ Batac
Can't wait!! =D - John Tyra
It wasn't prefaced by OMT, so there must be something else, right...? - Dan Hsiao
MG Siegler
Next challenges for iPhone: 3G
here we go people - MG Siegler
enterprise support, 3rd party apps - MG Siegler
and more countries - MG Siegler
"believe me they're in use in more than the 6 we've sold them in - ha ha - MG Siegler
MORE AFFORDABLE - MG Siegler
56% say too expensive - MG Siegler
Was that an announcement or prediction? - Jesse Stay
next level it is - Frederic
now it's an announcement - Frederic
"War, Children... is just a shot away" - Parth Awasthi from twhirl
Dean Takahashi
still no mention of the 3G iPhone, incidentally
"one more thing" - Eric Schlissel from twhirl
@Dean the "OMT" is coming. - Steve Rubel
Good catch - John Tyra
i'm willing to trade that for a new MBP - Anthony Citrano
as anthony ha says "god, if there's no 3g iphone, there will be rioting in the virtual streets of the blogosphere" - Eric Eldon
I really hope it's still coming. Otherwise Apple's stocks will drop as fast as a brick - Andre Heinrichs
Phil said 'push to the cloud' ;) I knew they weren't sleeping - Blake Burris
@eric, the native are getting hostile! - MG Siegler
There is the announcement - Andre Heinrichs
last chance for 3G announcement.... - Kevin D. White
@mg they sure is! - Eric Eldon
i smell it - MG Siegler
it's coming - Frederic
we ran out a few weeks ago - Frederic
next 'challenges': 3g, enterprise, 3rd party apps, more countries - Frederic
I missed it, damn cheering crowd! - Gez
Cheeper iPhone! - Gez
Dean Takahashi
MobileMe enables push email on the iphone. Change your contacts on a PC or change your calendar, it gets pushed right to the iPhone
...or a Mac - Andre Heinrichs
me.com - Frederic
me.com - Andre Heinrichs
Here comes the business side... watch out MS Mobile - Mike Wills
So, that's "Available Today"? - Andre Heinrichs
me.com is definitely not live - redirects to snappville... - Frederic
Is this the credible Exchange competitor everyone's been dreaming of for years? - Kevin D. White
Demo time. Sounds not as boring as iPhone Demos before - Andre Heinrichs
wow, me.com looks really nice - Graham Garland
clap clap drag and drop wtf? - Gez
the "me" looks a lot like the "me" from Windows me. - Andre Heinrichs
super cool domain name... me want me.com :) - AJ Batac
My poorly conveyed point there was this: why is there an ovation for a drag and drop web app? Big deal, anyone heard of basecamp, last.fm, a.n.other 2.0? - Gez
me.com --> "The site you are trying to reach has moved. " - Martin Añazco
MG Siegler
Push Notification Service announced
maintain a persistant IP connection right to the phone, push their notifications through apple to your application - MG Siegler
appear just like SMS messages now appear - MG Siegler
sounds like a decent solution - not sure it will make all devs happy - Frederic
it scales to many 3rd party services, but only one persistant connection needed - MG Siegler
Every notification has to go through Apple? - Andre Heinrichs
Did anyone else just think Twitter-Inside? - Kevin D. White
@andre - sounds like it - single point of failure anybody? - Frederic
avail in sept. developers get it early next month - MG Siegler
This is great. Btw. Twitter is down. - Lars Trieloff
works over wifi and cell network - MG Siegler
this is absolutely the best way to implement this. - Sam Pullara
Will it work on iPod Touch? - Andre Heinrichs
listening to the audiofeed from wwdc. Why do people clap at every word Steve says? =) - Davide D'Incau
This is *creepy*, so now Apple isn't just the gateway to get all apps, it's also the sole conduit for these update messages? The single point of failure and the place for the gov't to go? Hrm... may be good technology, but it does raise some concerns... - felix
This will be HUGE - Lon from twhirl
How will this work with somnething like chat? Instead of the chap app directly going and getting, now the developer has to set up a server to pull all chats and funnel those through Apple? - felix
hm, so Apple will have working Comet until September? - Stoyan Zhekov
yep, smart move. - Graham Garland
@felix yes, that is the way it would work. presumably most chat apps will be built by the chat service themselves and this won't be an additional server at all. - Sam Pullara
Jesse Stay
Please Come Join me on FriendFeed - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Yeah Jesse Go!! ... FriendFeed FTW!! woo hoo! - Susan Beebe
Thanks for this. It encouraged me to try FF again and strive for better balance between Twitter and FF usage. - Ken Burbary
The more people in your community of friends that actively use FriendFeed, the better experience it is. My suggestion, if it's not working for you - go and comment on others' discussions, like others' posted items, etc. and it will at least help them get to know you better. The more active you are the better the experience is IMHO. - Jesse Stay
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