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“I am watching CNN and seeing bad employment numbers from US auto industry. Interesting, though, here in China US brands, like Buick, are very popular.”
November 7 at 7:38 am - Link
That's refreshing. US Autos need some good news (especially here in Detroit), regardless where it is coming from - Ken Burbary
Toyota own's here in Uganda, American cars are very hard to find. - Jon Gosier via feedalizr
It's likely that in China US brands are popular because they're an import and therefore a status symbol. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
US brands like Buick are actually made in China. They're popular because historically before China was communist, Buick was a very popular brand. So when GM entered the market in the 90s, they thought they'd begin by bringing a well recognized brand back. It worked. Became status symbol for all government officials and wealthy folks. Now they're introducing other GM lines like Cadillac etc. - Christine Lu
Very cool, Christine =) - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
Interesting about the Buick "brand's" adoption. When I visited (Guangzhou) China in 1987, Mercedes seemed to be the popular auto (and truck) there (aside from waves of bicycles). - Jim Courtney
Buick seemed very popular 2+ years ago, when it was primarily the only car on the road, but now don't see it that often in Shenzhen or Songjiang. (there are few re-branded cars there sold as Buicks, like the Suzuki) Buicks in the US use Chinese engines, but the cars I think are made in the US(though it is cheaper to replace the whole engine nowadays then to fix parts). You will notice slight refinement differnces; such as how much better a German VW is made VS a Shanghai VW. - clarke thomas
I read an article, I'm pretty sure it was about Buick, how they designed a model in a Chinese design shop specifically to appeal to the Chinese market. - mikepk
And at Ford, we've seen profitable results this quarter in South America and Europe, where the Blue Oval is particularly popular. - Scott Monty
detroit .. 30 years of ignoring reality .. hard to have sympathy for them - Gregory Lent
All the western brands are majority-owned joint-ventures by Chinese. Mercedes is still the most prestigious brand for government officials, and Audi for the richest in China. - Joshua Allen
@Christine Lu: That's very interesting. Though I did guess they were produced in China. I wonder if there is ANY real goods import from the US to China. - Amit Morson
Maybe China can bailout the US auto industry instead of taxpayers. Well, I guess if they keep buying treasuries, it's roughly the same thing except that we're on the line to pay the debt back. - Chris White
"There were some bright spots around the globe for GM. It saw a solid 4.3% jump in sales in China, even as industrywide sales there declined, allowing it to pick up market share. China has become an increasingly important market for GM, one which accounts for more than one in ten vehicles it sells worldwide." - http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/2... - Steve Wilhelm
Buicks rock. My Buick set on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/t... - Thomas Hawk
the auto industry has been have problems for a long long time, just ask anyone who lives in the state of Michigan which has been in a one-state recession for almost 5 years - Jonathan Jesse
The problem is that money is sitting offshore. Corporations aren't going to bring it back into the US just to lose 35% to taxes. - Chris Mayer
No, actually I think the problem is that American cars suck. Make something people want to buy. It might be too late now, because we're going through a period where consumers won't want to buy anything. But why would you buy some old PCs, to use an analogy, when there are new cool Macs coming in the future? I'd wait for the electric/hybrids with cool body styles, handling, and interiors like Porsche, Audi, and BMW. - Chris White
Agreed, Chris. That's why potential auto manuf. bailouts are disgusting to me. They made their beds by just moving junk metal and pumping up stock returns, instead of focusing on making a good product matching customer desires and making profits through customer satisfaction. Hope China can learn lessons from us. - Kevin Leroux
That's interesting. It would be great if Obama comes through on the green cars promise. Good for us in Canada as well (we have an enormous auto manufacturing sector that serves mostly the US giants). - V for Veselka
I don't know if its wise to save the big three. Capitalism is about renewing the old and I cant see Ford, GM, and Jeep changing anytime soon. What if we let them fail. Doesn't that give companies like Tesla a real chance of changing cars in this country? - Erik Weese
president-elect obama will bail out the big three, think about he has massive support from the unions and also has governor granholm (of michiga) on his economic transition team. we definitely see an economic bailout for the big 3. also i doubt very little limits on these companies as any more would put even more constraints on them and more job loss/facotry closure, less union employees, etc - Jonathan Jesse
Erik... are you saying if we lose Ford GM and Jeep then we'll all be able to afford Tesla cars? How's that work, exactly? - Michael Markman
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Ian Schafer posted an entry on IanSchafer.com
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selling a product or service has yet to go out of style - joshuabacker
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Jeremiah Owyang posted a message
“So many are getting it wrong, it's Twitter AND Friendfeed, it's not Twitter OR Friendfeed. Agree or Disagree?”
July 1 at 4:32 am - Link
at the moment, yes. but that doesn't need to be the case in future - Jamie
Yes to both currently. - Paul W. Swansen
Of course its both... as Shel says: "New Media don't kill Old Media." Does this mean Twitter is now 'old media' - David Phillips
Agree. Twitter for a-synchronous talk, Friendfeed for more extended discussion. For me that is:) - Martijn Verver via twhirl
I've been preaching that for awhile now... Use twitter as a broadcast and FF for the conversation. It's a relationship that works. - Vince DeGeorge
absolutely agree, but I am wondering whether they are going to be the "defacto" standards. - Rob Diana
Agree. - John Samuelson
I hope it will be only Friendfeed soon. Doesn't anybody else get tired of all these different kind of networks? Sometimes monopoly is a good thing. Let's all head over to MSN ;-) - Rutger Blom via twhirl
mine is a little more extreme - friendfeed mostly & twitter rarely - i do push my ff's to twitter & i check my twitter replies & dm sometimes - i would like to get to the point where all my friends are in friendfeed and i no longer need to go to twitter at all - i used to like whales ;) - mike "glemak" dunn
Agree. They are different and both ueful in different ways. I see no need to choose between them just yet. I'm using Plurk too, which is different again - very informal conversation. - jjprojects
Disagree. Reason? Time. I don't have time for multiple services. For me, right now at least, it's FF. - Steve Rubel
Jury is still way, way out. - Warner Crocker
tiwtter is short and sweet.... ff is for discussions... i think they both have a niche - c010depunkk via twhirl
Disagree. You needn't use one to use the other. And, like Steve, I'm serviced-out. - Chris Baskind
agreed - Mona N.
You don't need one to use the other but they sure are handy to use together - JohnBfromMemphis via twhirl
Haven't maid up my mind yet, but it seems that the different services and their approaches fill different needs. Undecided for now! - tekspectator
Exactly! Why does it have to be "either" "or"? - Steve
I definitely agree. It is frustrating to have people insist one is better than the other. Two totally different beasts. - Shawn Farner via twhirl
could not agree more. probably the best twitter, FF comment in a long time. - Bastian
Agree! At this point, FF's comment functionality isn't good enough to replace Twitter for me. With Twhirl, it doesn't seem like tool overload to use both. - jen robinson via twhirl
Apart from twitter's SMS interface.. what is missing (for you) in FF? @ ? - Kishore Balakrishnan
Its FF only. reaons against Twitter : (a) Twitter whaling to often (b) not easy to track/thread twitter replies together. FOR FF (1) FF stable (2) FF Conov enabler/agggreagator (3) I like it better :)- - Peter Dawson
An integrated solution with both would be best. Twittering out of FriendFeed - that's my dream! - Matthias Schwenk
Oh definitely agree. They are symbiotic beasts - Deepak
Agree absolutely, when social media tools complement, the sum become greater than the parts - Charlie Hope via twhirl
@ Matthias you can comment back from FF in Twitter already... - Charlie Hope via twhirl
and, and, and... there's Utterz, Flickr, blog, etc. etc. etc. -- so, yes. It all goes together. FriendFeed has a chance to become a hub (the way Twitter is foe me now, but more so), if it can somehow tame itself - Doug Haslam via twhirl
Funny how this comes to my attention now as Twitter is not updating for me, but FF is. I love how I can reply to FF via @Twhirl. That is a dynamic combintion. - Tracy Lee Carroll via twhirl
@Matthias I wonder if someone has created a tool that takes your own FF posts and makes a tweet from it? You'd need to turn off tweets in FF otherwise there would be a feedback loop that would eventually destroy the universe. - Elliot Tucker
elliot: twitterfeed does that, put in your ff atom feed and remove your twitter feed from ff - mike "glemak" dunn
Agree....finally somebody comes out and says it as it should be said :) - Arjun
it's both right now - if you have group of people in Twitter then it is both - otherwise the conversation is moving more into friendfeed on a greater range of topics so for those not so tied to twitter it is twitter or friendfeed - riaz
Disagree. Twitter has crossed the line. It is dead to me and too much of the time it is dead to everyone. - Dave Slusher
I kind of agree. There's too much noise on FriendFeed to have simple, conversational, exchanges. - Bill Bittner
thanks mike - Elliot Tucker
If Twitter doesn't get its act together, it will be FriendFeed and no Twitter. I'm revisiting FriendFeed today after a nice hiatus - Michael Koby via Alert Thingy
Completely agree. - Parth Awasthi via twhirl
This is be being real: I love Twitter, and don't get me wrong, I think FriendFeed is cool, too.. but I think Facebook will ultimately adopt the killer features of both and wipe them out. - Shawn Farner via twhirl
Elliot, you can try feeding your FF entries feed into Twitterfeed.com. - Dewald Pretorius
And probably many other services we'll adopt - Sally Robinson
Agreed. FF, to me, is more of a reading rather than authoring experience - Michael Lehman
Agree. Friend Feed is my Twitter extension for comments and groups - Jon Bishop
Yep, I use both. - Brent Newhall
Agree! - Sarah Perez
Agree; tell me though, does Pownce = Twitter + FriendFeed [or vice-versa] or am I just being thick? Twhirl posts to Pownce for me as well, but taking Rafe Needleman's advice and not tracking multiple communities. FF good for posts too long for Twitter - Justin Guy Souter via twhirl
FriendFeed > Twitter for me. I feel more value when I post here first. - Steve Isaacs
agree, and, in between Twitter and Friendfeed , many other indispensible things are included. - Nikos Anagnostou
Agree! - Marc Dierens
twitter for messaging, friendfeed for aggregation - Tyler Gillies
Agree 100% - Mike Doeff
What Mike said. AND is IMPT. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I agree. I still just wish that twitter is more stable. - Alan Le
agree!! - edythe
I definitely agree. FriendFeed is not a Twitter replacement. - Jake (aka Jawee) via twhirl
agree for now, but not forever... - Jeremy Toeman
well I would have to agree as I do use both.. it seems obvious they are different things. - Karl via twhirl
Both - but grudgingly. Honestly? The only reason I go to FF is because some of my Twitterpals migrated here and won't come back. Twitter is my main gal - FF is my Friday night stand-in. If I could do away with FF I would. - Lucretia Pruitt
Twitter is too myopic to last much longer. Our online lives are a lot more complicated than 140 characters. - David Weiner
How much time to we all have?? There are use cases for both twitter and friend feed. Some people WILL choose one or the other. There are functional aspects that i like about both. For me it is both. - Rodney Rumford
Its neither - it's what fits your structure and how you want to connect. If you want actual conversations and build on relationpships, IMO, Plurk is good at that. FF seems too cluttered but aggregates a lot information together. Twitter is still good for me and is a great broadcast tool, some communication, and a lot of industry heads that you can learn from. - Sonny Gill
What the heck, throw in Plurk and you got a deal. - Rick Wolff
It's becoming less and less so. I'd much rather have one service I can do it all on and FriendFeed satisfies that much better. Twitter still has things FF doesn't though so for what FF doesn't satisfy, I will continue to use Twitter for. - Jesse Stay via twhirl
Totally agree. - karen2
I suppose I could go with the AND if FF offered a pure stream like twitter. I really don't like the threaded conversation presentation ... but maybe that's because I mostly use twirl? - Clint
Agree *completely*! - Kasey Sistrunk Anderson
You're almost right. I get what you're getting at. But the two are different and will grow separate paths with some common features. - phil baumann
phil, if they do grow in separate paths, that's great! I'll continue using both! However, I will not continue to use both for the same reasons. I'm removing the duplicate effort lately and consolodating what I can over to FriendFeed, leaving the remaining effort to Twitter. - Jesse Stay via twhirl
My other concern is that Twitter just doesn't have the expertise up high to make it a successful service. You will see the FF founders frequently engaged in conversations about FF on their service. I have yet to see a single Twitter founder engage in any of the critiques or compliments about their service on Twitter. - Jesse Stay via twhirl
FF ideal for social discovery as long as folks hooking up enough of their services. I like the "noise" of FF. - Stephen Francoeur
...and Plurk, and Facebook, and Pownce, and Jaiku, and more to come. Twitter for its simplicity and all the add-on apps and all the others for conversations or smaller groups with specific interests. - Brenda Young
agree! - Clay Newton
Agree! To me, it's "FriendTweed" - David Cook
Just for you Jeremiah (Just a rough draft) http://tinyurl.com/55eof3 - David Cook
currently it's only Friendfeed cause twitter has lowered the allowed API requests. I don't use Twitter via web - Frank Hamm
Completely agree - Peggy Gartin
Pretty much agree. - Bec Rowe
Twitter+FriendFeed! - Igor Poltavskiy
Agree - Summer
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Karen Swim shared an item on Google Reader
June 28 at 7:24 pm - Link
Thanks for the share and the comment Karen! - Daniel Smith
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“iPhone 3G Price: $199!”
June 9 at 11:44 am - Link
BOOM - MG Siegler
8 gigabytes - MG Siegler
BOOM - Caleb Elston
yes, the 3G one - MG Siegler
now that was a BOOM - Frederic
Okay, I'll take one. - Andre Heinrichs
affordable to almost everyone - MG Siegler
Holy Hell! - JA Castillo
Yes! - Mike Doeff
DAMN! - Delete Me
16 gig: $299 and in WHITE - MG Siegler
Subsidized? - Cyndy
That means Touch will be cheaper, too - Andre Heinrichs
Yes, - Ben Parr
Incredible. I will get two. - Lars Trieloff
one for the wife - one for me - Frederic
wOOt! who's shorting NOKIA :p - Blake Burris
was hoping for 16 (or 32) but oh well. Still getting one - Jason Kaneshiro
when will it ship? - Andre Heinrichs
stocks heading up - Frederic
I think I can see why they dried up the channel a month ago. Nobody can complain they *just bought* a $399 iPhone. - Kevin Fox
The contract lasts your lifetime and the lifetime of your children though. Gotta read the small print. - Chris Ridenour
BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! - Tadhg Kelly
finally an affordable version of the phone - Chris Jones
FF needs a Super Like for things like this. - Stanton Champion
That sound you heard was Twitter crashing as everyone simultaneously typed "$199!!!" - Ken Sheppardson
wonder if this involves a rebate - Nicholas Molnar
I want one of these. - Andre Heinrichs
no rebates - sounds like that's the price - Frederic
If only the service wasn't twice as much as what I pay for exactly the same thing. Sprint gives me 3G, unlimited data, unlimited text for $30 / month. The only thing that sucks is I'm using Windows Mobile and not an iPhone :( - Benjamin Golub
Reminder: 199 USD that is 126 EUR. - Lars Trieloff
@Ben That includes voice?? - Cyndy
Cyndy; yup, $30 gets me 500 minutes, 7pm nights and weekends free, unlimited data/text see here: http://delivery.sprint.com/m/p... - Benjamin Golub
The bigger annoucement will be how this affects the tarrif! - Joe Dawson (beta)
FriendFeed
“iPhone 3G: Battery life, 300 hours standby time”
June 9 at 11:37 am - Link
2g talk time up to 10 hours, 3g talk time: 5 hours - MG Siegler
industry leading 3g talk time - MG Siegler
5-6 hours of high-speed browsing - MG Siegler
video 7 hours of play time, audio 24 hours - MG Siegler
5 hours of talk - damn. I don't want to talk to anyone for 5 hours. - Kevin D. White
beat you frederic :) - MG Siegler
You are faster than any of the sites. - Steve Rubel
That's a Nerdgasm I'm hearing - Andre Heinrichs
FF has best WWDC coverage. So much faster than any other sites - Ken Burbary
MG has a wire plugged directly into his brain piping to FF - Jason Kaneshiro
Didn't they say 5 hours out of the MacBook Air too? - Chris Ridenour
dunno, but i get 5 hours out of my macbook air if i am careful. - Sam Pullara
@Ken but Macrumors has pictures to salivate over. - Cyndy
@Sam with Airport off? - Cyndy
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“iPhone 3G Is Here!”
June 9 at 11:31 am - Link
huge applause - MG Siegler
it's beautiful, side profile, thinner at edges - MG Siegler
"And today we're introducing the Ip--" *crushing cheering so I can't hear what it was* :-) - Kevin Fox
full black plastic black - MG Siegler
same 3.5 inch display - MG Siegler
GOTTA love it - Rachael
flush headphone JACKS! - MG Siegler
improved audio - MG Siegler
feels even better in your hand - MG Siegler
"Today w'ere introducing the iPhone 3G." - some people almost had a heart-attack. - AJ Batac
metal buttons - MG Siegler
i hope introducing == "selling" and selling means it's got iPhone2 on board... - felix
that was quite a built-up - Frederic
Mommy, when? - Steve Rubel
@mg, time to give me more shit for buying an iphone in march - Eric Eldon
I'd like to see anyone else get that sort of applause from "flush headset port" ;) - Blake Burris
Flush headphone jack, dammit I paid £70 quid for earphones that fit this thing! - Gez
The rumors are almost head-on this year... - AJ Batac
Can't wait!! =D - John Tyra
It wasn't prefaced by OMT, so there must be something else, right...? - Dan Hsiao
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“Next challenges for iPhone: 3G”
June 9 at 11:30 am - Link
here we go people - MG Siegler
enterprise support, 3rd party apps - MG Siegler
and more countries - MG Siegler
"believe me they're in use in more than the 6 we've sold them in - ha ha - MG Siegler
MORE AFFORDABLE - MG Siegler
56% say too expensive - MG Siegler
Was that an announcement or prediction? - Jesse Stay
next level it is - Frederic
now it's an announcement - Frederic
"War, Children... is just a shot away" - Parth Awasthi via twhirl
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“still no mention of the 3G iPhone, incidentally”
June 9 at 11:19 am - Link
"one more thing" - Eric Schlissel via twhirl
@Dean the "OMT" is coming. - Steve Rubel
Good catch - John Tyra
i'm willing to trade that for a new MBP - Anthony Citrano
as anthony ha says "god, if there's no 3g iphone, there will be rioting in the virtual streets of the blogosphere" - Eric Eldon
I really hope it's still coming. Otherwise Apple's stocks will drop as fast as a brick - Andre Heinrichs
Phil said 'push to the cloud' ;) I knew they weren't sleeping - Blake Burris
@eric, the native are getting hostile! - MG Siegler
There is the announcement - Andre Heinrichs
last chance for 3G announcement.... - Kevin D. White
@mg they sure is! - Eric Eldon
i smell it - MG Siegler
it's coming - Frederic
we ran out a few weeks ago - Frederic
this is like a group orgasm. Sorry, had to say it. - Jason Kaneshiro
next 'challenges': 3g, enterprise, 3rd party apps, more countries - Frederic
I missed it, damn cheering crowd! - Gez
Cheeper iPhone! - Gez
FriendFeed
“MobileMe enables push email on the iphone. Change your contacts on a PC or change your calendar, it gets pushed right to the iPhone”
June 9 at 11:15 am - Link
...or a Mac - Andre Heinrichs
me.com - Andre Heinrichs
me.com - Frederic
Here comes the business side... watch out MS Mobile - Mike Wills
So, that's "Available Today"? - Andre Heinrichs
me.com is definitely not live - redirects to snappville... - Frederic
Is this the credible Exchange competitor everyone's been dreaming of for years? - Kevin D. White
Demo time. Sounds not as boring as iPhone Demos before - Andre Heinrichs
wow, me.com looks really nice - Graham Garland
the "me" looks a lot like the "me" from Windows me. - Andre Heinrichs
clap clap drag and drop wtf? - Gez
super cool domain name... me want me.com :) - AJ Batac
My poorly conveyed point there was this: why is there an ovation for a drag and drop web app? Big deal, anyone heard of basecamp, last.fm, a.n.other 2.0? - Gez
me.com --> "The site you are trying to reach has moved. " - Martin Añazco
FriendFeed
“Push Notification Service announced”
June 9 at 11:02 am - Link
maintain a persistant IP connection right to the phone, push their notifications through apple to your application - MG Siegler
appear just like SMS messages now appear - MG Siegler
sounds like a decent solution - not sure it will make all devs happy - Frederic
it scales to many 3rd party services, but only one persistant connection needed - MG Siegler
Every notification has to go through Apple? - Andre Heinrichs
Did anyone else just think Twitter-Inside? - Kevin D. White
@andre - sounds like it - single point of failure anybody? - Frederic
avail in sept. developers get it early next month - MG Siegler
This is great. Btw. Twitter is down. - Lars Trieloff
works over wifi and cell network - MG Siegler
this is absolutely the best way to implement this. - Sam Pullara
Will it work on iPod Touch? - Andre Heinrichs
listening to the audiofeed from wwdc. Why do people clap at every word Steve says? =) - Davide D'Incau
This is *creepy*, so now Apple isn't just the gateway to get all apps, it's also the sole conduit for these update messages? The single point of failure and the place for the gov't to go? Hrm... may be good technology, but it does raise some concerns... - felix
This will be HUGE - Lon via twhirl
How will this work with somnething like chat? Instead of the chap app directly going and getting, now the developer has to set up a server to pull all chats and funnel those through Apple? - felix
hm, so Apple will have working Comet until September? - Stoyan Zhekov
yep, smart move. - Graham Garland
@felix yes, that is the way it would work. presumably most chat apps will be built by the chat service themselves and this won't be an additional server at all. - Sam Pullara
Blog
Jesse Stay posted an entry on Stay N' Alive
June 3 at 3:53 pm - Link
Yeah Jesse Go!! ... FriendFeed FTW!! woo hoo! - Susan Beebe
Thanks for this. It encouraged me to try FF again and strive for better balance between Twitter and FF usage. - Ken Burbary
The more people in your community of friends that actively use FriendFeed, the better experience it is. My suggestion, if it's not working for you - go and comment on others' discussions, like others' posted items, etc. and it will at least help them get to know you better. The more active you are the better the experience is IMHO. - Jesse Stay
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