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My Photography Workflow 2009 - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Jérôme Flipo, Tristan Seligmann, graywolf and 176 other people liked this
Thanks for sharing!
- Scott Loftesness
Awesome, thank you Thomas!
- Holger Eilhard
Interesting differences on how I use to do it. I usually copy the photos of the CF card to my desktop, geotag them (either automatically using an Amod GPS logger and GPSPhotoLinker or - just like you - manually with Geotagger - thanks to @craigstanton for that btw) then import them using Lightroom and apply some keywords during that step. From there it's pick, edit, output, upload.
- Holger Eilhard
Nice thank you for sharing, cool read.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Thanks for sharing. I didn't know about Pro Photo Tools - I'll have to look into it.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Holger, I don't geotag first because 85% of my photos or so I never finish or publish. It would be too much unnecessary work to geotag everything for me. I suppose if the entire shoot was at one location this might be preferable, but frequently I'm walking around a lot and don't want to do any more keywording and geotagging than I have to.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, have you ever considered getting a logger that you carry around to ease that process? Or using the - well, pretty expensive - automatic Canon solution in form of that WFT battery grip?
- Holger Eilhard
Holger, I have thought about that and will probably end up doing that in the end. I'm not crazy about having to use the battery grip with my 5D M2, which is already very heavy and bulky and I'm also not crazy about having to synch up software and my images later with an external unit. Most likely though I'd expect to begin using the Canon solution (probably within the next year) on walks where I'm moving around alot and not using it for single location shoots which are easier to mass geotag.
- Thomas Hawk
I know there are GPS units for Nikons that sit on the flash shoe and are pretty low profile. That might work better than a battery grip. Excellent post, by the way.
- Ken Davidson
I hope Canon will release a cheaper solution to solve that problem. Getting an 700 Euro BG + 100 Euro GPS receiver isn't really the way I like... The Nikon thing is just ~200 Euro and gets the job done.
- Holger Eilhard
Ken, for Canon there's only the battery grip (wireless file transmitter, not the regular BG) which allows you to plug in a GPS receiver...
- Holger Eilhard
Thanks for sharing this. Was wondering why you don't keyword before you export the .jpgs. Also, since you don't mention DNG, I'm assuming you don't use it. Was wondering what your thoughts were on DNG.
- Andy Roth
Andy, I suppose I could keyword before I export. I'm not sure what I really gain from that though. I suppose I like keywording later because I can get my developing done faster on individual images and export them out --that way I can begin seeing processed photos on my screensaver faster. This way if there blemishes I can still fix them.
- Thomas Hawk
The advantage is, if you keyword before you export, both the RAW files and the .jpgs will contain the keywords.
- Andy Roth
As far as DNG, I've never felt like I get much from that over RAW. As the photos are already RAW it seems unnecessary to do an additional conversion to DNG when I don't really understand the value of that format other than it is a more open format than Canon's proprietary RAW format. Personally I think that I'll always have a way to access those Canon files or at least have access to a...
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- Thomas Hawk
In terms of keywording RAW files, I guess I haven't really seen the value there when the exact same image is keyworded in JPG. It's pretty simple for me to search for a JPG file either on my hard drive or on Flickr/Zooomr and simply refer to the date in the metadata if I need to find the original RAW file, but I suppose whether you keyword before export or after export really is simply a matter of personal preference.
- Thomas Hawk
Interesting that you use the Canon Camera Window for downloading. You may be the first pro I've run into who depends on it, but it makes sense.
- Nick Savides
Nick, it's just super easy and reliable and gets the job done. There may in fact be better ways of doing it but it's probably one of those things that because it's not broke, why fix it. If I saw tangible evidence towards a better way to offload photos I'd certainly consider it. For a while I was annoyed that Camera Window would auto start Canon's processing software after it finished transferring the files, but then I just deleted that software and it stopped autoloading.
- Thomas Hawk
the other thing about Camera Window is that it's lighter than Lightroom and takes less memory/resources. So if I'm out on a shoot and take a coffee break for a few minutes to offload files I don't need to boot up Lightroom necessarily. Normally under that scenario I just want to get the images off my card as quick and fast as possible. It does mean that later I need to synch the folders with Lightroom but that's not really a big deal for me.
- Thomas Hawk
I liked your thoughts on using A and B folders to order your uploads. I've been doing that for a while, but in general I got tired of the manual upload process. I figured time could be saved by automating this, so I wrote a script that runs each day and chooses random A and B pictures to upload via the Flickr API. Once they're up. they are removed from the A and B folders. I never miss a day uploading, and it keeps me motivated to replenish those upload queues.
- Tom Harrison
Great TH! More stuff for me to change. In the process I realized how out of date my workflow posts are. Time to update them methinks! http://www.phillprice.com/index...
- Phill Price
Tom that sounds like an excellent way to automate thing and establishes your geek cred at a much higher level than mine. ;) I'd have no idea how to do a script for that. I actually like the manual process though as I can determine the exact order that they are to be uploaded in while looking at them.
- Thomas Hawk
Haha, yeah Computer Science nerd here. I might publish the script at some point.
- Tom Harrison
10 TB of photos is a _LOT_. I hope to one day get there but I my D40 doesn't make big enough RAW files. :) How do you search across all those images? Is there software reliable and powerful enough to not choke on that much data? I wish I could buy some sort of white label Flickr for this purpose.
- EricaJoy
(I just use pixelpipe to upload from LR or if a delayed post I send a delayed email (through pixelpipe) - it posts to phillprice.com automatically (through my own WP plugin) when there's a new photos with the same title in all four places (smugmug, ipernity, zooomr, flickr) then th fave and comment grabbing comes in too; bliss!
- Phill Price
Nice write up TH and well explained. Your process is almost identical to my current process except for a few minor things such as your geo tagging processes.
- Justin Korn
Thomas - thanks for sharing; both your workflow and your photos. We mere photographic mortals can only aspire to your throughput, but sharing elements of the workflow lets us feel just a bit closer to the bar you're setting.
- Rob Kramer
As a side note - fiddling w/ LR means it now rather handily imports photos off the memory card, and drops into folders organised and named by date, which works great for organising. Also, Jeffrey Friedl's got a great series of plugins that export to Flickr (and Facebook, among others) with the bonus that a metadata field for 'uploaded to' either service is marked yes or no - another option for keeping track of what's been published.
- Rob Kramer
Yes thanks for sharing. This technical stuff is always very intriguing. Here's an interesting question - how much awareness do you have of what's in your photo library and where it is? I'm thinking about my own library of about 13,000 images of which 4,300 have been processed and I can still usually see a photo and know when and where it was taken. I'm wondering at what point that starts to become more difficult. Or does one never lose track much?
- Tom Harrison
I don't know how he did it, but it's amazing
- Daniele Di Gregorio
...great share @THawk!
- .LAG liked that
You shoot so many photos I'm surprised you're manually geo-tagging photos the way you are. I would recommend a more automated method. I run a little app on my iPhone 3G called Trails which records my movements as I do a photowalk. It records a number of way points along the way and in the end you end up with a GPX file. Jeff Friedl has a cool little plugin for Lightroom...
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- Kenny Louie
Simple, yet effective. Inspiring for me to get up to speed
- Bruno Raymond
Thanks for doing this Thomas. Always useful to share and understand workflows regardless of the topic.
- Mark Krynsky
Thank you for sharing. How do you carry your stuff all day? Backpack? Bags? I know that having the camera with you full time it's the rule no. 1 but I believe it must be really tiring. When I go shooting I always try to limit as much as possible the extra lenses I take with me, just to be more free and comfortable.
- ialla
Interesting article about your workflow. About DNG there is one huge advantage in my opinion. You keep all your metadata in one single file and get rid of the sidecars. The main disadvantage is the time it takes to convert the RAW-files to DNG. Otherwise I work very much like you except that I use Lightroom for import and HoudahGeo for geotagging.
- Håkan Dahlström
Thanks for sharing this Thomas, I am actually thinking of implementing part of your workflow in mine. I think I have really come to a point now wehere I have to start thinking about my own personal workflow very seriously. One question: Do you delete all unflagged photos afetr your LR Session?
- Alexander Kesselaar
thawk, great post. and some great comments. 1) you should consider releasing your lightroom development presets (like Matt does http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/archive... ) 2) in order to get the flickr pics onto my blog (using BlogEngine.net), i wrote a little extension that grabs the latest, formats them in a "lightbox". AutoFlickr. that saves me lots of copy&pasting. http://autoflickr.codeplex.com/ demo--> http://webguide.hopto.org/autofli...
- big luzer
ialia, I use a Lowepro camera backpack (the CompuDayPak) that goes with me everywhere every day. Erica, I often will use Flickr or Zooomr to search for photos by tags and then look at the date of the image and go to that folder when need be. Sometimes I'll use desktop search if I can't find an image, but it seems to be slower.
- Thomas Hawk
As for geotagging: Wouldn't it be nice if I could correlate my 'date + time taken' data in my picture with my iPhone GPS information? How close would you have to synchronize the clocks to get a reasonably accurate stamp...?
- Charlie Owen
Crap. Kenny Louie said above you can already do this. Amazing.
- Charlie Owen
Thomas, great, same backpack as I have. Still weighs I lot though...
- ialla
And behind the scenes...All this takes a very very long time so it is peppered with brief gasps for air, hugs & kisses for his wife whenever he comes w/in 3 ft, playing hoops with the 2 boys, reading to all 4 children, providing guidance on homework & conflict resolution, pouring his wife a glass of wine nightly followed by a foot rub & netflix to coax her to sleep so he can continue...
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- Mrsth
@Mrsth: I can totally imagine that whole scene in my head. Incredible. :)
- Bryan Villarin
Thomas, I would love to know your secrets on time management...I honestly don't see how you can do it all and still have a full time job to boot! Whew! @Mrsth I am impressed!
- Susan Dennis
I wonder who had more influence in popularizing hip-hop/rap: Will Smith or Vanilla Ice
Steven Perez, Alfredo, Russell Wagner and 13 other people liked this
Neither: Run DMC
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Ice
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I can't believe you used Will Smith and Vanilla Ice in the same comparison.
- Kenny Louie
"I like the Fresh Prince, he raps happy."
- Joe Pierce
LL Cool J?
- elroy
What Haggis said. I can't believe you disregarded the great cultural icon-clash where Joe Perry and Steven Tyler happily guested on Run DMC's cover of "Walk This Way". :/ My Addidas, indeed. Also, Beastie Boys, anyone?
- Helen Sventitsky
Not for nothing, but did any of you read the original post? it's really just an either/or proposition. The clear answer is Will Smith, if only for his longevity.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
Having clarified that, I don't think that Will Smith had all that much influence on the popularity of hip-hop.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
Smith & LL Cool J, for this white boy who hates rap
- William Harryman
Vanilla Ice brought rap to the whiteys who turned around and then bought 90% of the rap music thereafter in a failed attempt to look cool. Why rap was decided to be cool is well beyond my imagination.
- Steve C
between those two? Six in one hand half a dozen in the other...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Biggie, Pac, and the Diddster.
- Mona Nomura
Arrowsmith and DMC, Public Enemy and a few others made people walk that way. I tried it but I just hate drum machines.
- Phil Boiarski
Ok...with the clarification done, Vanilla Ice was the first rapper to have a #1 single in the US. Will Smith had the longer and stronger career, however. I'd say Smith.
- Helen Sventitsky
Since we're specifically talking about "popularizing" it, I think it's Vanilla Ice. He was able to reach a broader audience. The audience that now buys most of the hip-hop and rap records.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Boy, did VI crash and burn, tho'...
- Helen Sventitsky
MTV
- Josh Haley
I think Haggis and Helen got it right... I would have to say Run DMC and Beastie Boys really paved the way. I would say that I remember quite a bit of traffic from DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince though.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Mmm.. Vanilla Ice did a great job (then) but Will Smith got that Big Willie Style album going great for commercial hip-hop, think of his album as one full sampling of the best 70's and 80's songs he was able to find. Forget Me Nots for Men In Black, Miami, Just the two of us, etc. If there was fans of some of the soul and funk of the day, he almost got them all. ;p
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Uh, rap and hip-hop are two separate things. Rap originated AS party songs in the 70s.
- Mona Nomura
Now I must get jiggy with it hehe. Thinking of it again, I was around 11 when he did that, it had a massive influence on how I found rap the cool thang, bringing me now to the position I have as a producer and all. My first bought CD though was, as random as it may sound, Ma$e's Harlem World. Props!
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Not the same thing, but still closely related as far as this discussion goes
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
ones an actor. the other works at a bike store. hmmm...
- Terry O'Fee
None of it will matter when Joaquin Phoenix gets in the house!
- Mark Shoemaker
LOL@Mark
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Mona... that also goes to my point. Rap and Hip Hop are two separate things, but in terms of being 'popular', the people who buy it in a broad general sense probably won't know the difference.
- Johnny Worthington
Beastie Boys
- Kevin Pedraja
It's everyone's fault. Recording industry, artists, we (consumers) -- can't just pin point the blame on one party.
- Mona Nomura
I was just thinking about Arsenio Hall's impact on popular culture...
- Andrew C
Oh, BTW, I am not saying at all that these two are the best, but in terms of airplay, MTV and record sales, they have some game. Let's put it this way, as much as the Beastie Boys, Run DMC, Naughty By Nature etc are epic beyond epic, I didn't hear them on my local FM station back in the day.
- Johnny Worthington
The way I understood the question was out of these two only, who had the most influence. Personally I remember "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" in '88 having a lot more influence than the brief popularity then utter ridicule of "To the Extreme" in '90. Though the latter was credited with being "the fastest selling hip hop album of all time" and "the best selling hip hop album up until that time." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Tony, Paradox of FF
lmao, that was rich, thanks
- adolfo foronda
Dr. Dre and Ed Lover showed me all the hip hop I ever listened to in the 90s. Yo!
- Joe Pierce
De La Soul did it for me - with their album and particular with Me, Myself and I. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Dre has actually been the producer for more top dollar acts than any of these people, so he gets my vote.
- Russell Wagner
I think most from a Hiphop background really couldn't get behind what Vanilla Ice represented. Fresh Prince had Jazzy Jeff, a true DJ pioneer. He toured with the likes of LL Cool J and Public Enemy. He definitly repped it better. Vanilla Ice had a problem rapping on beat, it was weird.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Celine Dion
- sofarsoShawn
Public Enemy FTMFW!
- Steven Perez
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Just ordered a second battery for my 5D Mark II (on backorder with Adorama) and a 16GB San Disk memory card.
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I heard the 5DmII has incredible battery life. Have you noticed a difference?
- Andrew Smith
Don't like the sound of that, is the 5D MKII battery not the same trusty BP-511a in the 5D and #0D line?
- Kenny Louie
Kenny, yeah, it's a new battery, the old 5D batteries don't work in the Mark II. The new batteries are supposed to last longer. I haven't drained my new battery yet but I always like to have a back up battery so I'm ordering another. I also just shipped my old 5D back off to Mack Camera for repair under the 3 year extended warranty that I bought from them originally. Hopefully they'll honor the warranty.
- Thomas Hawk
I don't know about the new battery life. I was playing around with live view a lot last weekend while shooting and was able to drain the battery down to below 66% in a couple of hours and maybe 50 frames. I've been able to shoot upwards of 400-500 shots with my old 5D before the meter dropped below full.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I need a second battery also, but no one seems to have them in stock. Maybe I'll do what Thomas did and just place an order and wait... Wonder how long it will be until the are available?
- Jeff P. Henderson
not sure how long a wait it will be with Adorama, but they seem to be getting 5D Mark II stuff faster than other people and I was impressed by the way they handled my order so I just ordered it from them on backorder. I'll be able to get by with one battery until it's in stock and they can ship it.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm stunned at the battery length of the 5DM2. I shot for a 3 day weekend and still had juice left. I ran out of room on my 10GB of cards first.
- Mark Interrante
My Initial Thoughts on the Canon 5D Mark II After 24 Hours - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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I'm still getting up to pace with my Canon D60 that I was given by a valuable friend! Hoping to get my hands on a Canon G10 this year.
- Ed Richardson
So very jealous!
- Justin Korn
Ed: Stop the presses! You'll get much better results continuing to use the D60 over the G10.
- Kenny Louie
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