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Dmitry 'radiant' Volkov, workalien 24/7, Charles Ying and 92 other people liked this
WHOA! Cool!
- AJ Batac
awesome!
- siniradam
you just made my color blind self cry tears of joy - I can now click that to discover all of the links that some crazy color mad designer has "hidden" from me by their color choices
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
wow neat trick
- Onur Gündüz
is there a bookmarklet to make hackernews look good on the iphone?
- Ivan Kirigin
Add this to FriendFeed and you've got Wave :-)
- Jesse Stay
Reminds me somewhat of ClutterMe http://www.clutterme.com/ - they figured out how to make a whole page in-place-editable (javascript of course) - just click anywhere and start typing: http://www.clutterme.com/pages...
- Christopher Galtenberg
Nice, discover links obscured by CSS
- Orlando Pozo
Cute trick. Not being familiar with java script (at all) what is the void%200 statement there for?
- Eric Borisch
Without the void 0, the browser will navigate to a page showing the result of the computation.
- Paul Buchheit
Not grasping the %200, though
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
But that's not the case when I just execute it in the (safari) address bar. I take it that's expected?
- Eric Borisch
%20 is a space. I'm not sure about safari -- I use ff.
- Paul Buchheit
Cool. This + FB + malcontents + screenshots = ???
- Eric Borisch
What is this supposed to do again ?-- it does nothing that I can discern in IE, FF or Chrome (on Vista).
- Brian Sullivan
OK I see what it does on FF.
- Brian Sullivan
But only in FireFox presumably?
- Brian Sullivan
It works on IE
- AJ Batac
So it does -- first time I tried IE8 crashed.
- Brian Sullivan
Works in Chrome, too
- Jan Ole Peek
It doesn't seem to work in 4.0.223.11
- Brian Sullivan
I'm still on Chrome 3.0.195.27 but it says no update detected... this is in Win7. Pretty sure my OSX Chrome is 4.0.223.11 though.
- Jan Ole Peek
4.0.223.11 is the latest in the dev stream.
- Brian Sullivan
Works on Chrome Mac version here. I added the script as a new bookmark in the menu.
- Jesper Lind
Try this instead to avoid the %20 weirdness: javascript:void(document.body.contentEditable=(document.body.contentEditable!='true'))
- Matt Mastracci
Doesn't seem to work either -- maybe a bug in the dev version?
- Brian Sullivan
World's coolest bookmarklet, especially those who are creating demo apps.
- Mike Reynolds
Wow, this is awesome (works perfectly for me in Firefox 3.5). Simple Bookmarklet code that makes Web pages "editable". Now if only there were save + back buttons or something = Instant Wiki.
- Alex Schleber
I realized after playing for a while, some of the keyboard events stop working, like submitting form by hitting Enter .. (FF 3.5.3)
- Onur Gündüz
this is the fundamental line of every wysiwyg editor you use. for IE use allowEdit
- Tzury Bar Yochay
Clicking it a second time makes it un-editable (and therefore it should respond to events and such).
- Paul Buchheit
So how do you discover 'hidden' links.?
- Bicentennial (Franc)
Cool, worked for me (the box is Windows Chrome 3.0.195.27)
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
I mean in all open tabs and windows, not just in editable mode. It stayed that way, still no keyboard events (not restarted ff yet) :)
- Onur Gündüz
Figured how to make it but what's it good for - pretending to rip other people's stuff to sh*t?
- Michael Slattery
Michael - I'm thinking about possible use as a minor webdesign tool. Of course other tools are more powerful, but this is a nice simple one.
- Deborah Fitchett
Ok, I finally get it
- Michael Slattery
this is the worlds best website
- Grant Rhoades
The receipt from Cthulu Lives (http://www.cthulhulives.org/toc...) is probably the coolest receipt I've ever gotten: http://www.twitpic.com/o6t9l
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Ken Kennedy liked this
Indeed! I got one of their holiday CDs a couple years back, and kept the receipt as well! Crazy cool!
- Ken Kennedy
Use the tag #I_Effing_Rock when you rock. PS. My book "I Effing Rock" will be available in a few months at better bookstores. Save up now.
Steve Holden, Ken Kennedy and Paul Reynolds liked this
You're Cru Shitting It Dave!
- Paul Reynolds
Paul did not need the joke explained to him.
- Dave Slusher
LOL!!!!
- Ken Kennedy
Reminder that govt has history of supporting journalism http://mediactive.com/2009... only new intervention needed is fiber everywhere, that's it
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The Duct Tape Programmer - Joel on Software - http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items...
Ken Kennedy liked this
Excellent Radio Berkman Podcast on Anonymity, Free Speech & Defamation - http://techliberation.com/2009...
Ken Kennedy liked this
Happiness works just like a muscle, the more you train at it the stronger it gets. The most unhappy people I see put zero effort into being happy. Happiness is not a thing that happens to you, it's a thing you do to the world around you.
Ken Kennedy, Ken Nelson, Heather Solos and Jimminy liked this
I've heard a similar idea that happiness is situational but joy is attitude dependent. I do work to try to make sure I find they joy, otherwise what is there to enjoy?
- Heather Solos
and I fail at defining things without using the word. Sigh.
- Heather Solos
Liz Phair touched on this in a song: "Love is nothing, nothing, nothing like they say; you've got to get up and work the people every day." It doesn't fall from heaven, this is a contact sport.
- Dave Slusher
Also I should distinguish that i view "happiness" as being like climate and "mood" as being like weather. You can have a bad day or even a lot of them, and still be happy. It's a context for your life. Note that I'm often cranky online but in general I consider myself an absurdly happy person. This is by choice and by my deliberate effort.
- Dave Slusher
Mediocrity is underrated (or better is the enemy of good enough) - http://nayna.org/blog/?p=11
Ken Kennedy liked this
New rule of engagement for me: If you are referring to any sort of "energy" that makes things happen in the universe, you need to be able to describe how one can measure it. If it can't be measured, it doesn't exist. Using the word "energy" doesn't give you license to treat the electromagnetic spectrum like carte blanche for woo woo magic.
Kreg Steppe and Ken Kennedy liked this
I prefer to think in terms of information that we actively filter. But I guess that's too dry and implies actual effort on the individuals part. So "energy" sounds more magical and palatable I guess. http://paulreynolds.me/blog...
- Paul Reynolds
When people talk about "The Secret" working because of this energy that flows through us all, they need to provide a wavelength and verify that claim or admit they made it all up. If there really is such a thing, proving that is worth a hell of a lot more money than the rinky dink DVDs they peddle. Of course, this is a question that answers itself. Anyone who will give you the secrets to untold wealth for $29.95 can't actually have them or they don't need your money.
- Dave Slusher
Introducing DataLiberation.org: Liberate your data! - http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009...
Ken Kennedy liked this
Let's talk about history of word "glut" for just 2 tweets. In 2001, VC's insisted there was a GLUT of bandwidth that nobody would EVER use.
Ken Kennedy liked this
The technology behind Tornado, FriendFeed's web server - Bret Taylor's blog - http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
Bryan Tsai, Sebastian, Thierry R. Andriamirado and 293 other people liked this
We have open sourced our web server. Download it at http://www.tornadoweb.org/. Check out the Facebook announcement at http://developers.facebook.com/news...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
See a live chat demo: http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/
- Casey Muller
*have no idea what I am looking at*
- Joe
Wow! Thanks so much, Bret and co!
- Doug
this was very interesting; good job
- RAPatton
neat
- anna sauce
I wonder what the engineering decision was to not use a WSGI interface.
- mikepk
mikepk: it supports WSGI, but it is not WSGI by default because WSGI does not support non-blocking I/O for things like hanging connections. See http://www.tornadoweb.org/documen....
- Bret Taylor
This actually is a very good piece of code! Thanks folks!
- directeur
cool, Bret, thanks :) I was just heading through the docs now.
- mikepk
Thanks for doing this, Bret! That's some pretty cool stuff.
- Keith Bourgoin
that's great. thanks..
- Onur Gündüz
oh man, this is so awesome, thanks guys!
- Charles Ying
Is "tonado" a typo?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I'm hacking my own python web framework at the moment, so now the choice on whether I want to switch gears to this or not. I'm liking what I see so far.
- mikepk
Bruce: Yes
- Casey Muller
Wow.. Thanks!! pretty much makes my day.. which is scary in it's own rite.
- Chris Myles
Great news! Cheers to the FF team!
- Egon Willighagen
Nice new title Brett.."Facebook Director of Products".. a good sign of things to come!
- Chris Myles
very very glad to hear this bit: "Tornado is a core piece of infrastructure that powers FriendFeed's real-time functionality, which we plan to actively maintain."
- Chris Heath
Great work
- James Myatt
does this have any implications for friendfeed.com in terms of competition and shelf-life?
- Franz Sittampalam
Franz: enables widespread adoption which leads to greater influence of the technique
- Mike Chelen
So excited this is out. So many personal projects I have been wanting to build with it :)
- Bret Taylor
Bret, do you have a set of coding conventions you use? E.g. looks like you use mixed case for classes and underbar separators for methods.
- Cristo
Fantastic, Bret (and team)!
- Micah Wittman
A very good project!...you know if will be possibile to use Tornado with other technogies except Python (such as JEE, Ruby On Rails, etc.)?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Cristo: we tried to use the official Python coding conventions, though we may have inadvertently strayed. Those conventions are: ClassNames, method_names, variable_names
- Bret Taylor
Brilliant! I hope you can provide very valuable input for the next round of #python WSGI, which desperately needs a next round ;)
- Uche Ogbuji
Re: WSGI needing help, see http://www.b-list.org/weblog...
- Uche Ogbuji
grt
- Xitong Liu
"Facebook's opensource technologies" link is broken on tornadoweb.org ..
- Onur Gündüz
Onur, worked for me - and still works now
- Chris Heath
Very cool, in case someone needs a high-end Web Server for a project, FriendFeed just open-sourced theirs, & apparently, it screams..
- Alex Schleber
Nicola: there is a Ruby example - http://gist.github.com/184760
- Mike Chelen
thx Mike, but this is a kind of eventmachine (that sounds good) for Ruby, not a Tornado client or wrapper...isn't it?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Excellent! Thank you. Was eagerly waiting for the day to come after looking this just 1 month ago; "changeset: 5afb8a445cad / date: 2009-08-11 16:34:48 / description: Initial open source packages" http://changelog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- NaHi
from f2p
Chris, yes it is fixed.. I swear it was broken ..
- Onur Gündüz
Good catch, NaHi. :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks guys. Really appriciated.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
That's great. thanks Bret :-)
- Nimaa
Nice job on the non-blocking stuff Bret!
- Mitchell Tsai
"We have open sourced our web server" @bret took over a year but is worth the wait. thx for the follow through ~ http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Peter Renshaw
Ohhh, ummm, btw, your underhanded behind the scenes sell out still rankles my human decency, & a lot of others too, as should yours...thumbs down/dislike x 47.5 million dollars, however not being bitter of course, keep ignorance & bliss
- sofarsoShawn
As I expected :) brilliant
- FFTornado
that's the sound of I believe 100000000? or so hands clapping...& giving you the BOOOO-URNS if I'm not mistaken...
- sofarsoShawn
oh you sonsabitchez this fscking rules! why so badass, ff? thank. you. :)
- mike
So, can we say; Python is the future?
- Ozkan Altuner
Nice code. Started to look at it today. Thanks for doing this. Now to start testing this on some projects I had been working on.
- Altan Khendup
What OS do you guys run FF on?
- Diego Barros
Diego: we run on Linux.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret just out of curiosity - what would necessitate usage of such an engine for a *personal* project? :)
- Michael Bravo
Michael: it is a nice framework to use for any project in my opinion (though I am clearly biased). If you are doing anything real-time like the chat demo, something like Tornado is certainly necessary/useful regardless of the size of the project.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret and for little-sized hardware? should have try it on Maemo based :)))
- A.T.
@silpol I kinda fail to see Maemo devices being used for servers (unless it's some kind of satellite-based or other covert server maybe :) )
- Michael Bravo
from IM
@mbravo you never know... there are some unusual (and cool) apps for web servers, granted you abstain (on purpose) from classical models, e.g.server farm somewhere there and herds of clients connecting to it...
- A.T.
Bret: Cool, thanks. Just out of curiosity, which flavour of Linux is preferred by FriendFeed?
- Diego Barros
I think this is the best answer for the ultimate question: "Does python needs yet another web framework?" While most of us would say why, when one come across this, a real world proven technology, serving zillions of pages a day, one would say, well, why not. actually, why not even take it an try to integrate out next web app with it? great job! seems like joining FB won't do you any harm ;-)
- Tzury Bar Yochay
We've seen tornado vs twisted, how about tornado vs rails? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tzury Bar Yochay
http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/ It doesn't work. I'd like to see chat.js :)
- Анатолий Шарифулин
FriendFeed's web server, open sourced? This is great! Welcoome, Tornado!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Bret: how do you proxy long-living connections through nginx? Vanilla nginx buffers everything.
- Alex Kapranoff
nginx has a configuration option to turn off buffering.
- Tristan Seligmann
Hard to believe it's now been a solid week since I had already finished up my first Dragon*Con panel and was heading to the hotel to check in. It feels a little bit like I'm still there and just taking a break from the con.
Ken Kennedy liked this
I know EXACTLY how you feel...
- Ken Kennedy
This is seriously the time to be in Myrtle Beach. The weather is perfect, the water is nice, there are 80% fewer tourists clogging things up than were here 2 weeks ago and the hotel prices just went way down. If you have the flexibility to come after Labor Day (like, without kids in schools) this is the time to vacation here.
Jimminy, Jason Huebel, Ken Sheppardson and 2 other people liked this
Agreed. This is one of our favorite times to go to the beach (usually Tybee rather than Myrtle, but same general points.)
- Ken Kennedy
Hotel rates drop quite a bit too! I drove all the way up Ocean Blvd from Springmaid Pier today.
- Paul Reynolds
Never been to Myrtle Beach but I've noticed the same thing around Lake Tahoe... September's a great month to vacation.
- Ken Sheppardson
I figured out that September is the best month our very first year here. My family had a vacation scheduled for this weekend, independently of our moving here.
- Dave Slusher
from IM
Same can be said about Wilmington
- Chris Heath
I don't like ad hominem attacks and I really hate ad hominem defenses. Joe Wilson's friends and family saying "He's not a bad guy" does nothing for anyone. "He acted like an asshole because he's so passionate" is the weakest possible defense. I was passionate about not invading Iraq and none of you cared.
Derek Coward and Ken Kennedy liked this
RT @shmoocon The Shmoo Group is soliciting papers for the sixth annual ShmooCon. More information at http://www.shmoocon.org/cfp...
Ken Kennedy liked this
Everything you like about Twitter is better on FriendFeed. If you all move over then I'd never have to touch this again. Bye until next con!
Ken Kennedy, Kreg Steppe, Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF) and 5 other people liked this
I will say I've been progressively getting more FF friends that are obviously coming from my @bakersdog account. The only problem is they're subscribing to da' MB Geek over here on FriendFeed, not so much The Baker's Dog.
- Paul Reynolds
Gamechanger? This is NOT a game. This is serious stuff. News people love to make is sound like a we're watching the damn superbowl.
Ken Kennedy liked this
I believe I'll be blowing most of my meager Amazon Associate earnings on this book: http://www.amazon.com/Cultura...
Ken Kennedy and Ladybug Heather liked this
irony 2.0 - I cant find where my Open Distributed Web Standards chums went to lunch 'cos of the social SPOFs of gmail, 4square + twitter
Alberto Saavedra and Ken Kennedy liked this
Media Multitasking and the Fast Twitch Impulse - http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpre...
mike "glemak" dunn and Ken Kennedy liked this
'Truth' vs. 'facts' from America's media -- latimes.com - http://www.latimes.com/news...
Ken Kennedy liked this
This of course fits well with Jay Rosen's "Church of the Savvy" thesis. The media doesn't report the facts or research facts in the heath care debate, they report the process and the theater of the town hall meetings as if that was the real story. Of course, the modern Republican party has figured out how to game this system and does in earnest.
- Dave Slusher
This is my dad's dog, Poppy. She's a Newfoundland and Great Pyrenees mix and has just turned two. These pictures are from Christmas when she was about a year and a half old. Don't worry, pic two is her sniffing my boot, not me kicking her =P
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Baard @ Pixum, April Buchheit, rowlikeagirl and 27 other people liked this
lovely expression :-)
- alieb
Cutie. Not quite as big as you might imagine considering the mix.
- Christopher A Carr
At this point her head comes up to about my waist, perhaps a bit higher. She's tall and lanky but hasn't filled out much. Which is good, really, since she still bounces and pounces like she's a 30 lb puppy...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Does she drool much? I love both of those breeds, but the drooling (especially a Newfie).
- Kenton
And by Newfie, I'm referring to the dog breed. Just want to clarify that if there are any human Newfoundlanders on here...
- Kenton
She doesn't drool all that much, definitely not as much as the pure newfie I've been around before. She gets a bit sloppy faced when she drinks water, but that's about 80% water and only 20% drool.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Staying light is definitely good if you're a big breed dog.
- Christopher A Carr
It's strange, Christopher, she's not nearly so 'beefy' as either of her parent breeds. Then again, she might fill out in the next 2 years as she reaches full maturity. I expect she'll be about 150 or so...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
very cute
- Holly is Happy
Oh yeah, she DOES look a lot like Pascal - what a cutie! How big is she now?
- Nadine Schaeffer
She's rather tall but still very lanky, hasn't filled out all the way yet. At the head she's probably 3.5 or 4 feet when standing.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Will probably be another year even before she's fully physically mature. Big dogs are late bloomers.
- Christopher A Carr
Both Cullect and Fever have as selling points that they hide unread counts. My Google Reader was over 1000 for two months and it didn't stress me at all. I caught up over the weekend and it was a non-event. Sometimes the stack is big, sometimes it is zero. I'm OK either way.
Ken Kennedy liked this
Mine's *never* below 1000. I view all of this stuff as something I dip into for a bit of time and read whatever's there rather than something that must be kept up with.
- J Wynia
Automated or curated? Personal accounts or @ColonelTribune's way? Newsrooms learn what works on Twitter http://www.poynter.org/column...
mike "glemak" dunn and Ken Kennedy liked this
There's some good work there. I think a lot of people over-emphasize high follower counts (esp. those that come at least partially via the SUL). Nevertheless, the story raises interesting comparisons between the styles.
- Ken Kennedy
"Was I grumpy enough? I was trying to sound grumpy. I think I was pretty grumpy. But REALLY grumpy?" http://www.boston.com/ae... The curmudgeon discourse accelerates as it nears the final spasm.
Bora Zivkovic, Ken Kennedy, Josette Torres and Mickey Schafer liked this
I love the smell of journomudgeons in the morning.
- Josette Torres
Wow! This one is a champion!
- Bora Zivkovic
This one is a mite personal: he describes as worthless and oversold two things I was directly involved in the way Dave Winer was directly involved in RSS: civic journalism and OffTheBus.
- Jay Rosen
I noticed he didn't mention you by name in a poor attempt to be sneaky. Nice try, but no bonus points have been awarded.
- Josette Torres
Niiicccee...he doesn't seem bitter at all.
- Ken Kennedy
I am a binge amazon mp3 buyer. I have come to realize that about myself.
Ken Kennedy liked this
LOL...I have been known to do that as well, at either Amazon or Amie St. Admitting you have a problem is the first step! *grin*
- Ken Kennedy
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