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Idea for a useful webapp: A tool for doing web page mockups that's better than Photoshop because things actually look right (because it's rendered by the browser). It doesn't need to generate good html, so absolute positioning, etc is ok.
Daniel Rowley, Laura Norvig, April Buchheit and 25 other people liked this
FrontPage? DreamWeaver? http://refreshingapps.com/showcas...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Totally brilliant idea. I write my own bad html mockups in a text editor or whatever IDE I'm playing with at the time, but a tool to ease this process would mean I could get on to abandoning the half-finished project much sooner than usual. :-)
- Slappy Line
Um, isn't that what Balsamiq does??
- Cyndy
Please god no, don't create another "doesn't need to generate good html" code generator. srsly
- Jason Wehmhoener
Well, as for the mockups, there is really great Firefox extension called Pencil. You should try it.
- Mladen Srdić
using Cappuccino, an open source framework that makes it easy to build desktop-caliber applications that run in a web browser?
- huixing
Paul, have you checked out Axure http://www.axure.com/? I've typically used Visio or resorted to whiteboards/paper as they are easier to edit.
- Jauder Ho
Jason, I would be fine with it not generating html at all. As for Balsamiq and some of the others, the idea is actually that it would look more like the final product instead of less. Photoshop gets fonts wrong and stuff because it isn't a web browser, and yet people still keep using it, so it seems that it must have some advantage over the other tools.
- Paul Buchheit
Photoshop has two major advantages, multiple uses and precision. Photoshop can be used for more than just web mockups. One person can achieve multiple goals with Photoshop while a mockup tool just makes mockups. The second advantage is the mockups look great in presentations because the author has complete control. Photoshop mockups aren't real they're hyper-real.
- Kevin D. White
Are mockups that look exactly like the finished product even desirable? I'm reminded of the "Napkin Look & Feel" (http://napkinlaf.sourceforge.net/#Overvi...)
- Laurence Gonsalves
Depends whether your goal is to sketch and idea or create a final design. For the latter, you really do want it to be pixel perfect. For the former, you want a "wireframe" or whatever the cool kids call it these days.
- ⓞnor
What ⓞnor said. For "wireframes" a whiteboard is fine, but eventually you want pixel-perfect designs.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, you should check out Denim, http://dub.washington.edu:2007/denim...
- imabonehead
Paul have you tried Fireworks, that's what our designers use.
- Michael
http://www.balsamiq.com I got this link from Cooper U boards a while back, and a lot of my co-workers have found it very useful. While it's not pixel perfect, it allows for really quick mock ups with the idea that the design of the end product will be done by actual designers.
- Sam Ee
http://www.balsamiq.com/product... That's a better link. The demo video sold me on the idea.
- Sam Ee
Second attempt: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Paul Buchheit
I've been looking for something like this for years. Balsamiq is definitely a good start, but I feel like there's not quite enough depth yet. Has anyone had luck with stencils like the ones found at http://graffletopia.com/ (for Omni Graffle)?
- Sutee Dee
pixel perfect? The web isn't print. Complete control over the rendering environment is an illusion. Don't submit to it!
- Andy Bakun
Paul, have you checked out Axure RP?
- Jauder Ho
http://gomockingbird.com/
- Neil
Vi is pretty good. You just write some text and point a browser at it.
- Cliff Gerrish
Try wireframing and prototyping apps - I am not sure if output is rendered at browser level though. Protoshare.com, jumpchart.com, productplanner.com
- TrafficBug
Done, already
- Ozkan Altuner
Kid Photo Meme, Part II: THE AFRO STRIKES BACK - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
rowlikeagirl, Darren Heydon, Jason Huebel and 38 other people liked this
Holy crap! Amazing.
- Vincent X
I wanna go back in time and be adopted by your family just so I can be part of so much awesome.
- ♥patricia♥
wow. that's bigger than my dad's 'fro!
- Admiral Anika
HAHAHAHAHAH FABOO MAMA!!!!
- Mona Nomura
BSA rules
- Josh Haley
oh sh! so nice!
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
This is the greatest family photo ever.
- Mike Doeff
Chris, because of you, this has been my favorite ff meme...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Anna Haro
i told you, Haro..
- Caroline
Caroline, if you have photos more magical than Chris, then you better post them!!!
- Anna Haro
I'm liking this because the suit reminds me of Herb Tarlek
- Outsanity
in due time haro gonna ask mom were in some weird attic she put them
- Caroline
Is that English?
- Mona Nomura
*bump*
- Rodfather
oh my god.
- edythe
OMG THE HAIR!
- Kevin D. White
Flinstones frames. lol!
- Carmen
*bump* you can't hide from the rebirth of this meme.
- Mark Krynsky
Bump for good times.
- Mark Krynsky
Cleaner FriendFeed (04/29/09) | userstyles.org - http://userstyles.org/styles...
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Nilesh, Tyson Key, Mark "DerBingle" J and 34 other people liked this
Update (04/29/2009) -- As suggested by Kristian Salonen (http://friendfeed.com/krisu), now using Data URI. The new FriendFeed logo isn't transparent.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
from Bookmarklet
I'm going to have to try this. I use Chrome and know nothing about greasemonkey scripts, but I'm going to give it a shot.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I've used AJ''s script from almost since I joined FF. I don't know how anyone can use FF without it. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hmm, Firefox isn't picking up the new version when I click "Find Updates".
- Rochelle
Thank you for updating!!!! That was driving me nuts.
- Carmen
Rochelle, please use the new one. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
It's not wide screen!
- Rochelle
Rochelle, the next one on my feed is the widescreen.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Rochelle, here -> http://userstyles.org/styles... :)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
YAY! Thanks.
- Rochelle
Thanks... AJ... liking this a lot better... I was starting to look for something to replace friend feed... still going to look, but it doesn't have to be found tonight.
- Harold
I like this style except that it makes the fonts small.
- Raphael, Raphael
Comment font is too small. How to enlarge it in the script? I've already replaced font color in script with #000000 for clarity. Thanks for doing all this AJ. Otherwise, I would drop FF.
- Polly Potter
Nice - loading it now
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Ok, - this is very nice, except for the bouncing that happened in firefox on first use of script (screen bounce, firefox, vista) otherwise, this is nice.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Hey AJ, Finally got around to writing the Google Chrome tutorial to install this: http://www.dailyhaggis.com/2009...
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Nice AJ it's like coming back Home again. Haggis Chrome? Why am I not surprised :)
- sofarsoShawn
Because Chrome pwns all other browsers? :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
PShaw, next you'll be hat'n on MAC's when everyone knows they're virus proof ;) #Chromechini
- sofarsoShawn
Sean, awesome! Nicely written tutorial. :)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Woo hoo! going to give this a shot.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Tried it and it didn't work. When I relaunched chrome, it launches to an error page (Oops! This link is broken) with this in the search box "enable user scripts 475k". Sure I'm doing something wrong. Just can't pinpoint it.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I think I found my mistake. Going to try again.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Great tutorial Sean! My problem was that I was copying/pasting your "–enable-user-scripts" line from IE which put it in as an odd hyphen rather than a double dash. When I typed it myself, it worked fine. It was looking at your screenshot that clued me in.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
The cleaner FF style is a little clunky when it refreshes from page to page. Does anyone else notice this? Or is it just in Chrome?
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
AJ, great tutorial on enabling scripts on Chrome.
- Mike Reynolds
Mike, It was Sean for the Chrome tutorial. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
In that case, thanks Sean!
- Mike Reynolds
@Jen Ooh, thanks for pointing that out! I'll make sure to note the double dashes in the article. I did that the first time as well
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Polly, to enlarge the comment section and sidebar font sizes (this is just rough), edit stylish script as follows: [CHANGE]: .main ul li a, .section ul li a { font-size: 13px !important; } [CHANGE]: .info,.likes,.comment,#footer,.pager,.bottom,.hidetoggle { font-size: 13px !important; } [ADD after ".searchbold" line]: .content {font-size:13px }
- Micah Wittman
Wow, does this using this on FireFox 3.5 make a world of difference. FriendFeed is actually easily readable. Thanks so much for this!
- nadezhda
Belated thank you to Micah for the tips about font size. FF soooo much easier to read now.
- Polly Potter
Just installed it, and it looks great! Thanks!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
This is an old script, check out the scripts with theme support here: http://userstyles.org/users...
- Kol Tregaskes
LOLcat paparazzi
2ndmoon©, Ahsan Ali aka. Slick, Владимир and 255 other people liked this
LOL
- Alfredo
I swear one of those is Scoble and he just doesn't want us to know.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Is that @sockington? :P (P.S. I don't think Sockington looks like that)
- Jalada
LOL good find. Love it.
- Drew Lucas
LOL
- Roberto Bonini
LOL....cat
- Bwana ☠
The cat's face is priceless.
- Josh Haley
LOL
- Jay
My cats have gotten used to it. Indiana poses and trys to get in shots that aren't supposed to include her.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Rachel, that sounds like my son Seth :p
- Josh Haley
Oh God ((((((((((:
- yasin ghasemi
It's Good ... :))
- Alooche
if only i had a cat to photgraph......... :(
- Roberto Bonini
I LOVE photography
- H.M.Nasrabadi
BEST post ever!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
LOL
- Arash
LOL at the guy lying on the ground to get the shot.
- Rahul Das
I actually LOL
- Valley
HA!!!
- David Cook
is that scoble with the mullet?
- Jim: Dead Like FF
damn. Killed another one!
- Jim: Dead Like FF
Yeah, its scoble :)
- Roberto Bonini
That's the most likes I think a post of mine has ever recieved. And they say they don't like LOLcats anymore huh?
- Josh Haley
thought it was socks the clinton's cat LOL
- BEX
BEX, I love how your profile bit says "I can kick your ass!" :) Not only do I believe that 100%, but I also think it might be enjoyable for some reason.
- Josh Haley
I'm sure that I could get a little whimper out of you ;)
- BEX
Yep, I was right. I'll be in my bunk.
- Josh Haley
:))
- Shandiz
I love how cats pose when initmidated with admirers- not this one though - and hey we are looking through lens of 2nd order paparazi (paparazi of paparazi !!!)
- Rahul Deodhar
نمي دونم حرفامو مي فهمي رفيق يا نه ولي خيلي جالبه
- ramezanifar
This is my most "liked" picture to date, I believe. Long live the LOLcat!
- Josh Haley
A superstar cat !
- Renchin(Reina)
haha :P
- Michael
kind of celebrity
- امیرریدر
So where are the pictures of the cat? I must see them!
- Chuck Baggett
I saw this seane in Tokyo, :)
- microwalrus
بله همونطوري كه گفتم خيلي جالبه
- ramezanifar
"Stupidity- hoomans haz it"
- Roberto Bonini
Yes this is the Bill Clinton's cat :)
- Nenko Ivanov
I can haz privacy?
- George Brickner
I SED, NO PICTUREZ!
- Rick Cogley
poor thing....
- theNetImp
What is the actual story behind this picture?
- Mellissa Claus
حالا چرا اينا اينطوري بند كردن به اين گربه؟
- ramezanifar
This is my best of to date, according to number of likes.
- Josh Haley
Admiral Anika to Admiral's feed, Meetups, Los Angeles, Craftiness, Derrick, Amani, Adrienne Van Houten, Erin @queenofspain, Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF, Mark Krynsky, mike fabio, edythe, Victor Ganata, ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ, Karoli, Christi Nielsen, phatemokid, Ubqtous
SOCAL MEETUP: June 27th or 28th @ Dockweiler? - http://beaches.co.la.ca.us/bandH...
Lars Clausen, FFing Enigma (aka Tina), John E. Bredehoft and 14 other people liked this
How does this sound to everyone? This beach is pretty secluded and uncrowded most of the time, they have fire pits there so we can have a bonfire. Ample parking without a long haul to the coastline. And since we haven't had a Westide meetup yet, hopefully this will allow us the chance to meet those who live on that side of town.
- Admiral Anika
from Bookmarklet
I'm cut, real deep. Where's my invite?
- Andrew Trinh
Clearly http://friendfeed.com/missmar..., http://friendfeed.com/misterjt, http://friendfeed.com/mellemu... & http://friendfeed.com/acitrano are also invited. I just couldn't DM you guys because either you're not subbed to me or I'm not subbed to you. :)
- Admiral Anika
yeah im pretty pissed about that too Andrew.
- Carlos Ayala
@Amani, I think that's the week before for Juneteenth, no? Andrew AND Carlos, you know you're invited, you just need to get here.
- Admiral Anika
Okay, and i have NO idea how Worthington or Cecily wound up on that list. Wish I could edit that. That was supposed to have Monique and John (OEmperor) instead. That's what was in my field when I posted it. Strange.
- Admiral Anika
:( just, :*(
- ♥patricia♥
What, you don't want to invite Cecily or Worthington? That's harsh. :p And I should be here, so sounds good to me.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
HA HA, busted by FoaF! :P
- CAJ, somewhere else
27th is better for me...if you're asking ;)
- Erin @queenofspain
Duh and Katie (http://friendfeed.com/kekibird) too!
- Admiral Anika
I wish I could, but I'm going to be in Atlanta the second week of June, and that's pretty much going to kill my travel budget between now and the end of the year.
- cecily
I'm in.
- Derrick
Definitely in! w00t
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I assume friends and family are welcome? This should be fun. Westsieeeeeeeeeeed.
- mike fabio
from email
Of course friends and family are welcome. It'll be a potluck, but we'll hammer out details via Upcoming or Anyvite. Right now, I want to know what day is best for you all.
- Admiral Anika
either day is fine with us
- Christi Nielsen
ill be there in spirit
- Shevonne
hmmm....perhaps I can make this trek. I haven't been to the beach in years.
- chrisofspades
Yay!
- Admiral Anika
:-))
- Anna Haro
Let me know what help you might need, maybe there's something I can do!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from email
Sounds fun...I'd be game for that. :)
- Karoli
any chance of doing it weekend before or after?!
- edythe
The weekend before, Amani is out of town and the weekend after I'm having a party for out of town guests.
- Admiral Anika
arrrrrrgggh.
- edythe
We could move it to July, but that deep into summer, I'm a raving bitch and y'all won't like me any more. :)
- Admiral Anika
It's also the most polluted beach in So.Cal. I would suggest not going into the water there.
- Anna Lynn M.
Yeah, I don't go into the water at any beach in SoCal, but everyone knows that Dockweiler is for hanging, not swimming, right?
- Admiral Anika
...and dodging falling airplane parts, since it's right off the tarmac of LAX and in line with the flight path. But that's only happened a few times. :-D
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
you're never going to please everyone. Best to just set a date and go with it, IMHO. If you move it to July, I hear you have misters to appease the beast. :P
- Christi Nielsen
I'm actually only trying to please Amani. </kissass> He lives on the westside, where we haven't had a meetup yet and he'll be back in town. We've been talking of a potluck meetup, so this is a combo.
- Admiral Anika
Anika, where have the other meetups been? I'm in pomona so its hella far for me.
- chrisofspades
from email
Chris, we had one at Pershing Square, at my house near East LA & one in Torrance or Carson at Five Guys.
- Admiral Anika
*sob*
- Alix Whitmire
I'm thinking of coming out for a weekend in July or maybe August so maybe a mini-meetup then? I'm good if it's just me and your kids, Anika. :) We can go rollerskating or something. I promise I won't bring them back all inked up.
- ♥patricia♥
Thanks for trying to please me. Makes me happy. :)
- Amani
Unfortunately I can't make it. I'll be out of town that weekend...
- Mark Krynsky
either day is good for me! *gets out the cooler*
- Marie likes mistletoe
Can I come? I'd love to be there!
- Lis Miller
Maybe?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Is this still on, or maybe on, or anything?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yes, it's still on, but it's going to be in July. ^see above^
- Admiral Anika
when in july
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
July 12th AFAIK. I'm still trying to make sure *I'm* free that day. I'll know by Thursday.
- Admiral Anika
Okay, thanks. I'd just about forgotten about it, then was like, wait, weren't we talking about a meetup this weekend at some point? I missed the July talk.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Glad you moved it to July. I'm going to be doing the Healthcare Reform awareness event this Sat...hope everyone else will too.
- Karoli
As of right now I can make that date...cool
- Mark Krynsky
So excited to meet everyone!
- Lis Miller
we're good for July 12. yea!
- Christi Nielsen
Glad to see this bubble back up to the top! I was just going to ask if we were still "ALL GO". Is there another thread coordinating any parts of this? what help (if any) is needed?
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from email
Yes, the new thread is here: http://friendfeed.com/los-ang...
- Admiral Anika
I love y'all, but I'm not in LA. Is there anyway to be removed from this thread?
- cecily
Sorry, Cecily. I wish there was. :( That's why I started a new one so people wouldn't comment on this one.
- Admiral Anika
Kevin D. White liked this
Oh, FriendFeed, let me edit! anyway - heading to Sharm el-Sheikh. Any tips, things not to miss, etc... appreciated. :)
- felix
I have not been to Egypt but of course would love to hear how it goes. What other communities have you tried asking? I have found Scubaboard to be a pretty solid group.
- Kevin D. White
Kevin, heh, just this one. I'm not really active in any scuba communities, being more of a dilettante - dive once, maybe twice if I'm lucky a year. Just dove in the Dominican Republic which was decent, long shallow dive. I may go check out Scubaboard and see what they think or at least what they've thought. :)
- felix
The Red Sea is an amazing diving desination as there are many areas designated as Marine Parks (no fishing etc only diving!), the corals are really healthy and the fish population really high! You can see everything there! The best way to enjoy red sea is with a liveaboard boat and the second best is to stay in Sharm El Sheikh and dive from there to Ras Mahomed National Park and other areas. Also a day-trip to The Thistlegorn (one of the best wrecks in the work) is a must!
- Manos Matsakis
one of the best place for diving. But let me warn u whether u are planning to go these days it will be too hot! late autumn is the best time for Sharm!
- Nazlı
Conventional Logic vs. Religious Logic --just sayin'
Nick B., Chris Prince, Steve and 145 other people liked this
Definitely true.
- Trish R
hahahhahahah Reminds me of FF the past few weeks. Oops, did I say that out loud? :P
- Mona Nomura
HAHAHAAH!!!!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Brilliant, Mona! Thanks for sharing!
- Matt Harwood
Oooh, great! :) Can I try??
- Jemm
Matt: Anytime. :) @Joni: TRY WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?! HUH HUH HUH?!? ;)
- Mona Nomura
Ahhhahah. Mona you always make my day better
- Kyle Lacy
@Mona: Sharing something.. related ;)
- Jemm
Kyle: Stop trying to butter me up. What do you want? ;) @Joni: ;)
- Mona Nomura
oh you will know Mona, you will know
- Kyle Lacy
i can has bacon!
- imabonehead
@Mark, I think his wife is running for VP...
- Jeff P. Henderson
perfect
- Arash
"Amen."
- l0ckergn0me
I clearly need to get to bed because I saw this at the top of the page and thought, "Wait. It's Sunday already? Where did the week go?" ooph.
- ♥patricia♥
Conventional logic holds that people don't carry baseballs around with them. Conventionally, would you think a person with pockets full of baseballs as "normal"? Do you carry everything you own in case you have to logically prove to someone that you own it in the event that some conventional debate arises?
- Darian Rawson
Omg I found it. Derrick, one more! :)
- Mona Nomura
Ha! Yeah, a little bit.
- Derrick
Hahahahaha
- Kamath (नमः)
Are you familiar with "Russell's Teapot?" : "If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion...
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- Christopher A Carr
I've never known a christian to react like that when someone asks to prove Gods existence. If someone is sincerly asking the question we'll usually talk about why we believe. If someone is being hostile I'll walk away.
- ChiliMac
ChiliMac, on a serious note, it's really dependent on the parties conversing. I've openly had many discussions on religion. It's also helpful to comprehend the other party's(ies') views and backgrounds, to have amicable discussions. :)
- Mona Nomura
Mona: You are absolutely right, it does depend on the parties. I believe most people still know how to and are polite and respectful of one another. I was having this conversation with a friend from my church the other night. His roommate had criticized him for reading books by Dawkins. We disagreed with him. We should understand those who have different opinions then ours and be respectful to one another.
- ChiliMac
I love it. Did you draw this, Mona?
- Jess Lee
Oh, no way. lol!
- Mona Nomura
"There's no such thing as a baseball. There's NO SUCH THING AS A BASEBALL." ;)
- Tyson Key
like again
- Arash
could also be titled "conventional logic vs evolutionist logic" or "conventional logic vs global warming logic". i see more unfounded dogma from these two groups than any other.
- Brooks Bayne
So true.
- Ethan
Yeah, Brooks... or "conventional logic vs. round Earth logic," or "conventional logic vs. heliocentric solar system logic." I'm sick of dogmatic round-Earth liberals! If the Earth is so round, why don't Australians fall into space? Eh? Answer that secular libs!
- Christopher A Carr
Definitely something Richard Dawkins would approve of! :) And @ChristopherCarr - the Celestial Teapot was the first thing I thought of when I saw this.
- jack
hahahah that is hilarious
- Nicholas Kreidberg
As a part of our redesign launch, you can post to FriendFeed by emailing share@friendfeed.com, and you can get your feed delivered via email (you can even comment by replying to the messages). See more here: http://friendfeed.com/share...
Brian, Iván Abrego, Isha (Marysia) and 143 other people liked this
You can post to a room by emailing <groupname>@friendfeed.com and direct message by emailing <username>@friendfeed.com
- Bret Taylor
like
- AmirAli+i
That's cool.
- Andrew Smith
did i just notice the new bookmarklet too?
- patrick
brilliant!
- Edward Zwart
Awesome!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
I assume we need to send the email from the primary email set up on our FF account?
- Kevin Whalen
Hehehe... Nice :D
- Johnny Worthington
You can add email addresses to your account from your settings: http://friendfeed.com/...
- Bret Taylor
You can post from any email address associated with your account. Email notifications will go to your primary address.
- Tudor Bosman
Currently, we support automatic posting (without going through an "approve" page) for Gmail, Yahoo, and MSN/Hotmail/Live.com. We will add more email providers in the future, and we will also have a technical document on what an ISP needs to do in order to get added.
- Tudor Bosman
I thought a saw a "hello world" yesterday that got deleted rather quickly :)
- Frankie Warren
Isn't this a huge spam vector? All I have to know is someone's email address to mail from and I can send stuff to FF?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: we use a number of methods including SPF to verify that emails came from the actual owner of the email address. If we can't verify, we make the entry go through an approval step before it is posted.
- Bret Taylor
from email
What Bret said; that's why we only support a few email providers right now.
- Tudor Bosman
from email
You should add more Twitter sharing options, so that I can have emailed-posts automatically tweeted. (like by emailing twitter@friendfeed.com). Then FF can become a replacement for services like twitpic
- Daniel Sims
So I could get spammed just by needing to approve posts that didn't come from me?
- Brian Sullivan
I don't see any way to turn it off for my account - does such a feature exist?
- Brian Sullivan
I just tried to send an email to a private group from a different email account and the request to approve it was sent back to the email address from which I sent the direct message. Is this the intended behavior?
- Shakeel Mahate
Shakeel: Yes. In order to approve the post, you have to log in to FriendFeed if you aren't logged in already.
- Tudor Bosman
Brian: as Shakeel noted, the approval request will be sent to the email address that was used to post. If someone is trying to spam, they will receive the approval request, not you. In order to approve, though, they would have to log in to FriendFeed, so they can only impersonate you if they know your FriendFeed password.
- Tudor Bosman
Wow this is awesome.
- Mona Nomura
It is sent to the address that the user claimed does it not ? If they claimed to be me I would get the request? Spam may be an over statement -- but it certainly could be annoying.
- Brian Sullivan
Curious if setting the reply to different than the from will have effect on this? registered with yahoo, but yahoo sends out all mail with gmail as reply to...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Brian, that is correct. We will address this issue if it becomes a real problem; we do have some spam-prevention measures in place.
- Tudor Bosman
Rob: you need to associate with your account the address that you send from (that is, the address in the From: header).
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, I think your solution is brilliant, thank you.
- Shakeel Mahate
And an IM bot - that would make my work interface a breeze
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from Nambu
Nicholas: The IM bot is there. Just set it up and use it :-) I'm getting some notices now....going to test sends in a sec
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Tudor: thanks for the clarification
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nicholas: we have been supporting IM notifications and replies by IM for a while now. Is this not working for you? See http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor: I'm not seeing IM notifications on "comments on posts I commented on" (and maybe same for posts I liked
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: we just added that feature last night, so yeah, it's possible that there are some bugs. Looking into it.
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor. I'll be keeping an eye out for it...I've only got those set (but I did get blasted before I turned off the "Home Feed" notifications
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
pretty cool
- Shevonne
If you're not using Gmail, Yahoo, or whatever, do you have to approve each time you post something?
- Tom Landini
What happened to the stats page that was with the old interface?
- Russ Jackson
this is a gr8 feature..
- Amit
Tom: yes, for now, but stay tuned for improvements.
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor.
- Tom Landini
Not seeing IM posts to @me going thru. :( This makes me a sad panda.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Added another mail to stream via cellphone, but confirmation reply never came in, a bug maybe?
- Nir Ben Yona
great stuff! i mean ..stuFF .... thanks! ..you are the befft ! .. and will be even beffer .. Im quite sure about that .. LoFFe all the new ffeatures. ! ......... do you think to enable also x@ff.im? it might be handy, save typing
- Petr Buben
AND you guys successfully omitted email signatures from DMs and posts!
- Mona Nomura
is that new Mona? The last DM I sent via email included my signature. (was a few days ago)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
is there email notifications for groups?? i know you can post to groups via email, but i dont see the way to turn on emails out of groups.
- Frankie Warren
So that means no more using the remote key in the email address? That's SWEET.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Frankie—Not yet. For now you can add the groups you'd like to receive notifications for to a friend list and enable email notifications for that list.
- Dan Hsiao
Dan: Thanks for the work around... I hope a more intuitive method eventually shows up :)
- Frankie Warren
Sweet!
- TheHenry
Hey everyone reading this on Twitter - come join the party on Friendfeed :)
- Phill Price
I leave for a few hours and FF Co. goes and WINs all over the place. Can't leave you alone for a second :)
- grant fox
Mona, Rob: we tweaked the email signature detection code a bit, and should get rid of the default signatures from iPhone, Blackberry, and WinMo phones, as well as small variations (HI MONA). If you want to ensure that your signature gets dropped, configure the signature to include "-- " (two dashes and a space) on a line by itself before the actual signature text.
- Tudor Bosman
Bret, it looks good, liking the new email and IM features. I've still got a huge suggestions and bug list. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Grant, I went off to watch a rare bit of TV then come back to all this! LOL. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The notifications rock ! Great work !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
wow, this is very impressive
- Peter Efland
I could not post via email, because I guess I never confirmed my email address. I updated my email with the same one and clicked on the link that was subsequently sent to me. Now posts via email work.
- Chip Ramsey
Is old interface via mail2ff going anywhere? I'd like to continue authorizing my posts with remotekey.
- Alex Kapranoff
Alex: mail2ff will continue to work
- Bret Taylor
Ryo -- is your gmail address in your ff list of email addresses?
- Brian Sullivan
Ryo: That may be the same thing that was happening to me. Did you try to add the same email address again? It should fire a confirmation email that provides a link. After I clicked the link, I was then able to send posts via my email.
- Chip Ramsey
Ryo: BTW, I'm also on gmail and everything works fine now, so gmail itself probably is not the problem.
- Chip Ramsey
Nice... I will update my contact list asap! Feature heaven...mmmm
- Susan Beebe
Any word on getting other mail addresses to only need authorization once? Have to approve my emails from my cell phone every time is a royal pita!! Pretty please make att.net a single-authorization mail????? Especially since it's an authorized address!!
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
So should we replace the old <username>+plaza360demos@mail2ff.com with share@friendfeed.com ?
- scott willeke
Holy wtf Batman >:( - http://www.diefatty.com/general...
Rick Cogley, bnoise, Tyson Key and 43 other people liked this
AHahaha haahahahahahahaha damn....
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Bacon as a strong issue in religion?
- Mo Kargas
I think its about time that the Religion vs Bacon argument was brought into our schools.
- Slappy Line
I guess that baconists and pastafarians mix well together
- Jemm
Yes they do that sect is called the Carbonaraists.(pasta, bacon, sausage, egg, cheese, butter, oh and parsley).
- Mark Interrante
Carbonaraist SPLITTERS! Everyone knows that the one true FSM favours the meatball as the only meat to serve with pasta.
- Slappy Line
haha my 13 yr old niece calls herself a pastafarian on some of her online profiles.
- Laura Norvig
I'd take bacon over heaven any day. Mainly because bacon is heaven, so, you know, two birds.
- Rachel
No God of mine would hate bacon.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
He loves and hates us, you mean? :(
- Mona Nomura
via me: http://friendfeed.com/e... :)
- ·[▪_▪]·
Wha??? this is weird. The only religious thing with bacon I know about is that orthodox jewish folks do not eat bacon (pork products). That's it... no biggee deal... these signs are weird!
- Susan Beebe
@Susan i'm thinking these are shopped.
- ·[▪_▪]·
·[•_•] - totally agree!
- Susan Beebe
I thought for a second I remembered hearing, "The bacon of Christ" in a liturgy in Catholic school, but surely I remembered incorrectly.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Derrick, your religion thread reminded me of this LOL
- Mona Nomura
Mona, I swear, I didn't mean for that thread to venture off the way it did. I pondered something, asked it, and there you go. I'm thinking I'm skipping bacon and going straight to the smoked pork shoulder, though. Send cole slaw.
- Derrick
Have you ever received that stale bread they call The Body of Christ during mass? That is nowhere near as tasty as bacon.
- Joe Pierce
*without reading thread* BaconFTL! *hides*
- Yuvi
So. The wages of sin is bacon? How do I join this religion?
- Victor Ganata
Victor: http://friendfeed.com/monasfe...
- Mona Nomura
Mona, the website is gone :( There is no God!
- Victor Ganata
TechCrunch says "Apple, your Mighty Mouse sucks. Please fix it." - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
milus, Andrew Leyden, Paul Grav and 25 other people liked this
I'm not a fan of the MM, either.
- Bill Sodeman
from Bookmarklet
I really enjoy using mine even though I've found I need it less than I thought I would.
- Kevin D. White
me too, I love only logitech mouse...
- OmarCaf
I'm using the Mighty Mouse but I really want Apple to release a new mouse..
- Peter
Okay, I really don't have a problem with the MM in general. As long as it's working, it works for me. I say "As long as it's working" because, if it gets too cold (and by that, I mean, not THAT cold), it slows down to a crawl, which can be very frustrating.
- Fleagle
It took them how many years to build a mouse with more than one button?
- xero
I finally gave up on my battery eating, too easily clogging Mighty Mouse. I now have a Logitech MX6 I love it.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
My MM's scroll is wazoooed too :(
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I fell in love with its shape, but had to sold it before I break it in my anger
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Mm blows
- Isaac Zahavi
The MM is the best mouse I have ever owned! I love it!
- TheHenry
I love the mighty mouse. Though I wish apple would release just a USB Track pad because I prefer using a trackpad over a mouse.
- Corey Harris
I hate the MM, I much prefer a good solid logitech with no less than 16 buttons :)
- Danny Cohen
I tried to like it but I ran out of patience about 15 minutes into it. I replaced it with a Kensington Slimblade.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My scroll wheel had gone out on my wired MM, which was two months past warranty. I took it to an Apple Store last night, they cleaned it to no avail and handed me a new one, no fuss, no muss, no paperwork.
- LogEx
Again, much like Apple's products, it is not meant to satiate everyone's needs and wants. Especially when it comes to mice, there are so many products out there that a little bit of research would help you decide if the MM is for you/not!
- Guru Panguji
The concept is good. (The scroll-ball is a great idea) The implementation sucks. I found the scroll-ball would eventually get clogged with dirt, but unlike a traditional ball mouse, you can't open the mouse up in order to clean the scroll-ball. The left-clicks work fine, the right-clicks are often hit-and-miss. I do love how it connects via bluetooth and works with hardly any configuration.
- Paul Grav
Beauty over use. It's been ages since Apple released a good mouse.
- Pedro Rodrigues
MM drives me crazy, anyone find a good replacement for it that replicates its functionality?
- Gordon Corte
lmao!
- Zafarali
Logitech's VX Nano is pretty good. It isn't bluetooth but the usb dongle is tiny.
- Paul Grav
Agreed. Damn you Mighty Mouse. Damn you.
- Garin Kilpatrick
I've gone through 2 MM's that became unusable due to broken scroll wheels. No more.
- Chrimmus Tad
While I don't think much of TechCrunch; I have to agree with this post wholeheartedly. I like all (read: ALL) things Apple. Minus the Mighty Mouse.
- Diego Barros
I opted for the monmartre with a cup of red lentil sweet potato cream soup.
Kol Tregaskes, Lars Clausen, FairyVisions and 26 other people liked this
DIBS ON THE PICKLE SPEAR
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Solo table?
- You.
Lunchtime already?
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
It's 1p here, so certainly lunchtime. And The Paris Cafe has bar seating at the front, so I don't have to take up a whole table. The trade off is that anyone walking downMain St can see me stuffing my face. I like to think they're all jealous ;-)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
from fftogo
Your lunch plate is suggesting some masculine state of arousal or something..or I'm just really hungry...or tired.
- Mike Lewis
Tina, your pickle looks delicious.
- Yolanda
ORLY o_O As Amanda has noted above, I don't tend to eat my pickle spears out. They're usually traditional dills, and I prefer a much more garlicky pickle.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I love Bread and Butter Pickles best... Oh, nomageddon!
- Mike Lewis
Bread & Butter aka sweet pickles are also NOM. Those and garlicky ones are my faves. Traditional dills are just... sour.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Clearly someone's never had Bubbies.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Bubbies = garlicky (and yes, I've had 'em). I'm talking straight up dill pickles. Blech =P
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
while B&B pickles are sweet, sweet pickles are a different pickle
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I only like the dill ones - the chilled white-looking ones are the BESTEST. I don't know the technical term to distinguish those from the regular green dill ones.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Bumping because this is what I had for lunch again (sans the soup, though, it's too hot for soup).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
dammit, this is torture. *drool*
- Joe Silence is not Santa
It still looks NOM. I kinda want soup now.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
FriendFeed Blocked In Iran, The Service’s Most Active Region - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Women With Depression Have More Sex | The Stimulist - http://thestimulist.com/resolve...
Brian, ·[▪_▪]·, Nick Rae and 48 other people liked this
"Dr. Sabura Allen says depressed women tend to have more casual sex, and use sex to make themselves feel more secure. OK. Fair enough. But we wondered: could it be that depressed women are drawn to sex because their bodies “know” that sex alleviates depression (sort of the way the body craves salt when it’s dehydrated, because it “knows” that salt prompts liquid retention)? Is sex the new Prozac? (No, wait. Sarafem is the new Prozac. But you know what we mean.)"
- Jason Toney
from Bookmarklet
These studies always come with amazing pull-quotes: "Some researchers claim that unprotected sex can help reduce depression for women. Our first question, reading this, was: were those researchers men? But apparently they’re on to something. There’s a hormone called prostoglandin, found only in semen, that when absorbed in a woman’s body can modulate her hormones. We love it. Risk of STDs and unwanted pregnancy aside, unprotected sex (with men) might calm a woman down."
- Jason Toney
...define 'sex.' signed, Bill Clinton
- .LAG liked that
there was some announcement a couple of days back that mentioned smart(er) women had better sex. wonder what the connection and/or correlation might be if any given that a lot of smart people tend to suffer from depression.
- Cee Bee
Way too much to say about this but I'm going to keep my everlovin' trap shut for now.
- cecily
Ding! I think Cee Bee's got it. And *please* whoever, don't encourage unprotected sex. I can hear it now "I heard it on teevee, sex with no condoms will make me less sad". Yeah, until you get herpes and/or an unwanted pregnancy.
- Kamilah Gill
duh?
- Caroline
just for the record, there are other ways to increase your prostaglandin levels without having to ingest fresh semen, in case you were concerned
- Victor Ganata
from fftogo
lol +50 Victor. Awesome.
- Kamilah Gill
SO THAT EXPLAINS IT!!!!!!
- Liz
i don't buy that semen argument. suspect.
- Liz
So just find the women with Prozac in their purse to increase your odds?
- Diego Barros
victor: i wasn't concerned. ;)
- edythe
Does it work for males too?
- Andrew Trinh
So you're saying I should find a woman suffering with depression?
- Joshua Hatfield
from fftogo
joshua, I'd suggest going with the other study as it seems smart women have better sex. This just suggests that depressed women have *more* sex, Quality isn't much discussed. A smart depressed woman, though? Lots of mo' better sex seems to be mo' likely.
- Jason Toney
FWIW the other study was actually about women with a higher *emotional* IQ having better sex, not plain old IQ. You gotta wonder: are people with a high emotional IQ more likely or less likely to suffer from depression...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
CeeBee the article the other day said women with the higher emotional intelligence(not overall intelligence) have better sex. In my experience, I wouldn't say that depressed women are more emotionally intellegent
- RAPatton
Liked/loved for discussion.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I knew I should have been a psychiatrist ;-)
- Olivier
Ah okay, better sex vs. more sex. There is a difference.
- Kamilah Gill
this article sounds totally sensationalist and like a misreading of whatever article was in question- and if it wasn't a misreading then the original paper sounds totally BS.
- Snipergirl
how so snipergirl?
- tiffany
there is nothing in this about the methodology of the study. there isn't even a link to the original study! not a single link in the article links to a scientific paper, rather news items in non-scientific journals. additionally, there is absolutely no evidence that depressed bodies "need" sex- it's not even a statement that makes logical, medical or psychological sense! Even worse is...
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- Snipergirl
Hey...isn't prostaglandin the same things that bring the muscle cramps? The very hormone that Omega-3 is supposed to reduce? Tell me, I'm wrong, and that women aren't supposed to choose between depression or agony! Can I go back in time and get a Y chromosome, please?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I guess I have a retroactive excuse to cover those wild years, I must have been depressed. </sage nod>
- Heather Solos
i think the original study -- that depressed women use sex as a way to feel better and boost self esteem -- is spot on. the stimulist's conclusions? not so much.
- tiffany
I think the _original_ study was the 2002 Gordon Gallup study with which The Stimulist agreed. Based on behavior reported by college women, Gallup concluded that the reason women having unprotected sex were happier was because of semen exposure. Despite the fact that prostaglandin is found in semen, it looks like the study leaves too many factors unaccounted for. J. Sabura Allen's work...
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- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
the stimulist is trying to make a connection between two outcomes where there isn't one.
- tiffany
Will you please elaborate?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
There are lots of different prostaglandins. The ones that omega-3-fatty acids, aspirin, and NSAIDs decrease are the ones that make you more likely to clot, which is why these agents decrease your risk of heart attack or stroke. From what I've seen in the literature, decreasing certain prostaglandins and increasing other ones are what seems to have the anti-depressant effect. If the...
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- Victor Ganata
There's a critique of the original paper here: http://scienceblogs.com/neuroto...
- Victor Ganata
Man, I love FriendFeed! Sometimes we just have conversations that are full of awesome. Learning (without staring out of a lab window and wishing I were outside---and even better, I don't have to dissect any more giant spiders) FTW!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
How do I know there aren't any spiders at that link?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
lol no spiders, Cub Scout's honor.
- Karim
Long live Depression!
- Fernando Bergamaschi
Wow, that woman at Karim's link has a great memory. I wonder if she got that all in one take. Oh, and Fernando, depression and semen will always be with us.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Do you think the U.S. should lift the ban on travel to Cuba? I just saw a poll on CNN where 64% say yes and 34% say no.
Mahdi Ebrahimi, Thomas Hawk, Kol Tregaskes and 25 other people liked this
Yes
- Soup
yes
- Mike Nencetti
yes
- Kelly
*Takes a slow drag on his Cohiba* How is this even a question?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
yes, 40yrs later what has it accomplished?
- R. Ferguson
Yes
- Patrick Jordan
Yes.. The embargo on them was a complete failure.
- Uncle CW™
Yes.
- AJ Kohn
yes.
- D. Eda Goze
Does anyone in their 20's even understand why there is an embargo? With no meaning there is no reason.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Mark, I know people *my* age who don't even know about the embargo.
- Admiral Anika
LOL Anika!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Yes, but not sure about the embargo on goods.
- Kelly W.
I'd love to go to Cuba. The embargo has existed since before I was born so it's odd to even think of being able to travel there.
- Trish R
Time for us to win them over with our US crap and make them consumers like the rest of the world.
- Uncle CW™
Well you can go Trish, just not from the US. Which makes the travel ban doubly stupid.
- Soup
yes
- Anne Bouey
Soup, that's true, but seems like too much trouble to travel somewhere so close.
- Trish R
yes
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Yes
- Deepak Singh
yes
- chaz2b
"Embargoes are dead"
- Bryan R. Adams
yes
- Zach Landes
The embargo is a relic of the cold war. Besides, America's ability to influence is today chiefly its ability to buy, sell, and market.
- Zach Landes
Yes
- Kevin D. White
Sí por supuesto, el embargo es todo lo contrario a la Declaración de los Derechos Humanos.
- AlvareZval
Sure its time to open cuba up!
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
Yes
- martha
Come on vamanos! Everybody let's go! C'mon, let's get to it, I know that we can do it! Where are we going? *clap clap clap* Havana! Where are we going? *clap clap clap* Havana! Muy Bien!
- Josh Haley
What, and admit defeat? No way.
- τorƍue
yes
- Amir
τorƍue Wins!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Heck yes. Also, end the trade embargo. Arguments about the effectiveness of the embargo aside, I'd like better rum please. And cigars. And awesome Cuban jazz musicians. All of those things. We're the ones losing out here, just sayin'
- Jennifer Dittrich
Yes. Freedom to travel is very important, and the ban only makes life in Cuba more miserable than it is now.
- Alex Scrivener
Yes
- Mike Reynolds
Yes
- Jeff P. Henderson
Si
- Pete Delucchi
Yes!
- Giancarlo Angulo
Definitely.
- Helen Sventitsky
Even better...they should lift the ban on trade to Cuba.
- Alex Scoble
+1 Alex
- Hutch Carpenter
Yes
- Mark Traphagen
Sure.
- Steven Perez
sure, why not?
- Thomas Hawk
Yes. Another opportunity to use the power of our example rather than the example of our power.
- Kevin Pedraja
Basil Orange Mojito Recipe. - http://therecipegirl.blogspot.com/2008...
Erick Jimenez, Marie likes mistletoe, Carmen and 15 other people liked this
We have a ton of basil to use before it goes bad.
- Ginger Makela Riker
from Bookmarklet
I'm going to need more rum!
- Kevin D. White
5-28 - Potential Consequences of 5.5% Mortgage Rates | Mr. Mortgage Blog | Field Check Group: Real Estate & Finance - http://www.fieldcheckgroup.com/2009...
Gary Burd, Cristo and Kevin D. White liked this
Good thing I refinanced at 4.5%
- Kevin D. White
Nice timing Kevin.
- Mike Reynolds
Cleaner FriendFeed Widescreen (04/29/09) | userstyles.org - http://userstyles.org/styles...
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This is for wide monitors
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
from Bookmarklet
can this be used with Chrome?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
in answer to my own question posted elsewhere: http://lifehacker.com/5180010...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
As much as I like the way this looks, there's no way I'm installing Firefox.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Can I use it on my Atari 2600?
- Josh Haley
Sorry, Josh. It's for the 5200 only.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Just got this working in K-Meleon with a tiny modification and adding it to userContent.css. http://cranialsoup.blogspot.com/2009...
- April Russo (app103)
Normal version is so much better imo
- Nicholas James
...just loaded this into Stylish...soooooo much better. thanks @AJ!
- .LAG liked that
I just moved it over to userContent.css, like I did with K-Meleon and it works much better. I don't see the original theme flash before the new theme is applied. Much faster than with GreaseMonkey.
- April Russo (app103)
Is it just me or did Friend Feed just break this style? I mostly fixed it by adding "#container, " before "#body" and ".box-bar, .box-corner, " before ".bar".
- ·[▪_▪]·
It's not you. I will have a fix within today.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
AJ is on the case. YAY!
- Yolanda
Taco Night...
Nicholas Kreidberg, Anna Haro, Steven Perez and 17 other people liked this
I'll be right over. Should I bring something?
- ♥patricia♥
your appetite! these turned into massive burritos!
- Carlos Ayala
and i made extra guac for Derrick!
- Carlos Ayala
Am I invited? I'll bring some wine and then we can go biking to work it off
- Shevonne
Shevonne no invitation necessary...my house is yours. and biking is a great idea....i need to make up 100 miles.
- Carlos Ayala
I think we need a FL meetup. Let's make it so!
- ♥patricia♥
YUM!
- Carmen
The horror! Where's the cilantro?
- Bill Bittner
Perfect!! I like Tacos!
- Renchin(Reina)
Your (r)evolution will be digitized: online tools for radical collaboration: http://fredzimny.wordpress.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/coturni...)
Ken Morley, Mickey Schafer, Mark Essel and 20 other people liked this
Nicely written article. One thing that is not mentioned is the need for an organizer, leader, or queen (using 'hive mind' terminology) to make collaborative projects that evolve over time work.
- Andrew Lang
Good point. Do queens emerge naturally in such complex systems? Are some people "born leaders"?
- Bora Zivkovic
I've had too many collaborative projects fizzle to opine that leadership is emergent.
- D0r0th34
I was actually thinking about a blog post about the wonders of benevolent dictatorship :)
- Deepak Singh
Deepak, I am looking forward to your post. But you need to photoshop a crown on your head ;-)
- Bora Zivkovic
I was going to put it on yours :-)
- Deepak Singh
Part of the problem is that whilst we often have initial enthusiasm for projects of this kind, we also all have day jobs - and we are not paid to do whatever we like with whoever we like. Now if we could find a benefactor to pay the salaries of a "virtual institute"; well, I'd be out of the day job like a shot :-)
- Neil Saunders
Done. As you can tell I agree with Andrew. http://mndoci.com/blog...
- Deepak Singh
Andy is right - at least one person has to be deeply committed to keeping the project moving along - and it certainly helps if the open project is part of their day job. The technology is very much secondary to that.
- Jean-Claude Bradley
Right, but it doesn't have to be the same person, continually. Aren't there case studies from software development where projects started with one queen end with another?
- Matthew Todd
I also think there are two points being made here, generally. One concerns open projects, where anyone may collaborate on a problem, and these are the most difficult to run, and the most radical. The other type is one where competitors are turned into collaborators by a process of limited openness - i.e. where a large number of potential collaborators are encouraged to share data, but...
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- Matthew Todd
Apache is an example where both (a) the developer of the original code (Robert McCool) left, and (b) it's basically been run by a large group without a single leader ever since. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... summarizes some of this. Steven Weber's book on open source has more about the way the leadership model evolved early on. Apache seems to be pretty unusual, though. The Benevolent-Dictator-For-Life model seems more common in successful open source projects.
- Michael Nielsen
Agreed, the Apache model is somewhat unusual and I don't think it would work for a language. That said it's still a core group of people leading the way.
- Deepak Singh
some more thoughts on this http://usefulchem.blogspot.com/2009...
- Jean-Claude Bradley
broadcasting ideas in competition ocean could lead not only to collaboration, but.... unfortunately. Even inside of big labs or paper or grants peer-review people steal each other ideas all the time. How will you protect your IP?
- Alexey
Alexey we choose to work on projects where IP protection is not an objective
- Jean-Claude Bradley
I'm a huge fan of collaborative design research. I've jotted a few ideas of my own in my blog. We need open source like thinking and tools for cutting edge global discoveries.
- Mark Essel
Just thought I would mention, Kyle Cassidy, photographer, is organizing a similar collaboration thingy here, given an enormous boost from Neil Gaiman's blog-and-tweet readership: http://kylecassidy.livejournal.com/513940...
- Heather
Why the poor pay more: More in money, time, hassle, exhaustion, menace | (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html...)
Kol Tregaskes, sofarsoShawn, Jenny Morman and 20 other people liked this
Eh... weak thinking by the writer. Confuses cause and effect and ignores the fact that the wealthy pay the vast majority of taxes.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Hey, are you in Seattle?
- Sean Oliver
Nope
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
You mean Anthony the people with 95% of the wealth pay more taxes? That's so strange.
- Todd Hoff
Todd, I'm not implying any fundamental justice nor lack thereof. Just saying that there's a fairly tired argument playing a big role in the thinking here....
- Anthony Citrano
What's so tired? People with more money pay more taxes like taller people help get the can off the top shelf.
- Todd Hoff
It's not a tired argument, Anthony. The poor get screwed because of a lack of access to goods and services that are available to the middle class. The rich don't get screwed because they have to pay more taxes. They pay more taxes because they are well off and can afford it. The poor can't afford to pay more for food and basic services, yet that's exactly what happens. There's nothing fair or just about that.
- Alex Scoble
Also, the poor get screwed because when you say "Poor" most people's head goes straight to the homeless guy who's on drugs they see by the train station and thus feel little real sympathy. As opposed to the working poor.
- Wirehead
Good point, Wirehead.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I'm on both sides, I grew up more poor than the majority of "poor" people in the US, we couldn't afford NIKE or hell, decent junk food. I wasn't anorexic, I was malnourished and as a result could have been a good 3-4 inches taller, so it burns my hide when I see people comment in ways that shows lack of compassion or understanding. But on the other hand, My husband and I get raped by...
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- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
I don't know how taxes entered the equation. This article wasn't about that nor was it about people who get hand outs. The article is about the working poor which people seem not to realize exist. It's possible to go to work every day and still be poor. It's possible to work hard for that raise you finally get and still be poor. And because they work they STILL PAY TAXES. These people don't like others who game to the system to get handouts and the like either. Is that inconceivable?
- Kenya
No Kenya, but I think that people standing on the other side can only see the economic side of the equation at times. The one that puts my income at 36% on the federal and at another 14% of gross on local and state.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
A long time ago in a place far, far away called the USA, the idea was that if you wanted nicer things you bettered yourself financially so that you could. It was an arcane, no longer used idea called "incentive." Look it up for yourself if you don't believe people in olden days actually used the term in everyday life. Now, in the enlightened times in which we live, called the...
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- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Mark, I like you, but the fact that you never register that the system keeps these people down, actually makes it harder for them to get out of poverty than it should be, makes me sad.
- Alex Scoble
What the poor deal with isn't a disincentive to being poor, it's actually a trap to make sure that the poor stay poor.
- Alex Scoble
If the system is broken, Alex, which I agree that it most certainly is broken, why do we continue to use it?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Mark, because it benefits the few who are using it to it's fullest expense. The system "NEEDS" people who can and are willing to work for min wage, and work 2-3 jobs to make it, like Nike "needs" to use child labor to turn the constant profit that keeps its stockholders happy.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Something I find totally disgusting is that in the UK, if you have a second job you get taxed on the income of it to the point where you've effectively worked for free. There's no sliding scale based on the income of those jobs, just a flat, great big chunk. While this doesn't harm the quality of living for those that earn a considerable wage, it unfairly punishes those that need the money they earn far more.
- alphaxion
I think George Carlins words are applicable here.. "The rich do least of the work for most of the wealth. The middle classes to most of the work for some of the wealth. The poor are there to keep the middle classes in check".
- alphaxion
And because it's easier to be comfortable with whatever you are given in life as long as it's not too heinous- Bread and circuses are powerful tools, Just pay a little attention to the propaganda in K-12 schools for a little while, and you'll see, that the US is "Truly the land of the free (/sarcasm)."
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Gina I agree to a point. No matter where you are on the political spectrum we can all agree that there needs to be a safety net for those who unexpectedly fall. We can also agree that even though two people have exactly the same start in life they most likely will end up vastly differently, financially, at the end. That is called life. It isn't fair, and it was never meant to be fair....
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- MVB (Grinch of FF)
{stock recommendation of Barbara Ehrenreich's "Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America".}
- Andrew C
@MVB you're incorrectly grasping the concept of what we mean by "fair". We don't mean some communist "everyone should be paid the same and get the same and live the same". We mean that life shouldn't disproportionately destroy your quality of living if you live in a nation that is wealthy enough. A person making $100,000 and paying $50,000 tax on that income still has a markedly better...
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- alphaxion
Alex said: "Mark, because it benefits the few who are using it to it's fullest expense." I agree, with the expansion that in a 'predator state', according to Galbraith's explanation (which itself comes from Thorstein Veblen in 1899), things aren't automatically terrible for the 'prey'. "in Veblen's scheme of things the industrial orders are not driven to the brink of subsistence. On the...
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- Andrew C
@alphaxion Which is why I wrote "The problem is the wage is too small." The median incomes for both individuals and families in the US are so low that when Tina pointed the actual numbers out to me I was dismayed. It seems likely that the incentive for many to not work is because they are financially better-off by not working. Your example of $15K a year as a wage is, to me, morally...
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- MVB (Grinch of FF)
The problem isn't the wage is too small, because prices would adjust to the extra income and things would cost the same, proportionality wise.. it's called inflation ;) The problem is that those with wealth don't tend harbour the social conscience enough to help with society.
- alphaxion
Or, alphaxion, perhaps there are just too many people.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
People earn what they are worth to the person paying them. If they are really worth more, then someone will be willing to pay that higher amount. If they are not worth what they are earning, then they will be fired. It's a simple system of supply and demand. Poor people earn what they are worth. Want to raise yourself out of poverty? Make yourself more valuable to the market by...
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- Robert Kenney
"It's a simple system of supply and demand." -- good thing there's no such thing as monopolies or monopsonies to mess up this beautiful theory.
- Andrew C
@robert is that why every western nation has implemented a minimum wage into law, because employers pay them what they're worth or what they can legally get away with? Is that why some fields force new entrants (regardless of educational level) into working placements for free (advertising works like this)? Companies will pay the lowest price possible for the majority of workers, not...
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- alphaxion
Worth reading in this context is the Matthew effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... It says that the poor get more poor and the rich get richer.
- Kris
from Nambu
Companies DO NOT pay you what you're worth. They pay you as little as they can get away with. Doesn't really matter how hard you actually work, either.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
exactly Rahsheen
- Moved to Facebook
This is really a long and convoluted answer and I'm sure I can't touch on all the points here, but Rasheen is exactly right. There has been a systematic dismantling of worker's rights over the past 25 years. Corporations and politicians are complicit in allowing this to happen. Even after WWII up until after the Korean War a blue-collar family could afford a house and a car, maybe two...
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- James Poling
from email
James brings up an interesting point in US history regarding the employment picture but fails to capitalize on one of the main events and the eventual outcome. In 1945 many, many soldiers returned from the armed forces to the general workforce; but most of the women who had left home to enter the labor pool did not return to being Sally-Homemaker. The effect was a massive increase in...
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- MVB (Grinch of FF)
MVB, what about outsourcing meaning that expensive domestic labor in manufacturing and increasingly, office jobs, can be replaced with foreign labor done overseas? Cut the domestic labor pool and while non-offshoreable jobs might see a price rise, the offshorable jobs won't, or not nearly as much.
- Andrew C
Andrew you make a great point. I will counter that what you say may be true today but does not take in to account for the roughly four decades of depressed wages. Out-sourcing labor has been popular only recently. The 1960's and 1970's in the US saw a shift to the two-income family as the norm in order to maintain the "middle-class lifestyle" (home-ownership, car(s) college for the...
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- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I feel like the "two many people" theory doesn't quite cover it. Too tired to think of why, though.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
MVB - wages were depressed for a long time, IMO much longer than a one time increase in the pool of available workers (as women entered the work force en masse). And productivity rose for the last 40 years. Average income rose, even if median income didn't - instead, that money all went to the top. I don't think the free market produced this outcome. However, the go-to books I've been...
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- Andrew C
Adding people doesn't just increase the labor pool. They also increase aggregate consumer demand.
- Andrew C
Because the rich don't care.
- \(*_*)/
Andrew. I'll check in to that book. Sounds interesting.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Whiffle down the wind: Pictures show flying goose's incredible contortion to slow itself down - http://picfor.me/viewimg/71592
Fernando Bergamaschi, sandhal, ralphsaunders and 8 other people liked this
Im pissed. Dont tell me you want to discuss a business you are trying to launch when its really a pyramid scheme. #wtf #wastingmytime
Kol Tregaskes, Steven Perez, Kevin D. White and 23 other people liked this
yeah sadly alot of that foolishness going around.
- R. Ferguson
MLM is back with a vengeance.
- Amani
Good God. So sorry, Shevonne...
- Helen Sventitsky
DIE PYRAMID SCHEMES DIE!
- Pete Delucchi
OMG, Shevonne, I hate that! That happened to me once when I got out of the Air Force and was looking for a job. A guy wasted two hours of my time trying to get me to sell Amway crap.
- Alex Scoble
Yea I have had a few people try that with me.
- orionstarr
"So, you want me to find enough people that will buy your laundry detergent?" "No, the key is finding people to do that for you!" "So, I have to find a dozen people that can find people to buy your laundry detergent?" "Nevermind."
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Why We Spend Coins Faster Than Bills - http://www.npr.org/templat...
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"If we want to get consumers going again, Raghubir says, we should hand out lots of change. "If I were President Obama, the very first thing I'd recommend is increase the circulation of $1 coins and consider introducing $2 coins," she says. Likewise, she says the IRS should stop sending tax rebates as lump sums. "You could send us travelers checks," Raghubir advises. "Send it in twenties, the way we get cash.""
- Ginger Makela Riker
from Bookmarklet
My change always ends up somewhere besides my pockets. Dollars and such disappear like magic!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I don't know about that. I have an ever growing pile of coins on my dresser. Hardly any bills in wallet though.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
Interesting. Anecdotal for sure, but I never spend change: I probably have single-handedly taken a few grand out of circulation over the years.
- Mark Trapp
The value of the dollar goes up and down, but one thing that is constant is change.
- Andy Roth
Pffft! Change, ones, and fives all go in a jar at the house.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Pfft paper money. How will the government know where I am at all times if I spend paper money?!
- matthew john ernisse
They've already begun minting some new series of Presidential $1 coins. Honestly, I can't recall using a $1 coin anywhere recently, but I'm not a big vending machine user, either.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I think it's silly to have $1 and $2 notes.
- Bryce Roney
This is similar to why everyone is talking about micropayments for newspaper industry and the emergence of the app store.
- ashish
Good point about micropayments ashish.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Russia Dumps the U.S. Dollar for Euro as Reserve Currency - http://economicedge.blogspot.com/
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"This is a big deal. Today’s action with falling equities, falling bond prices, and a falling dollar (with sharply rising gold prices in dollar terms) pretty much boxes Bernanke and little Timmy Geithner in. The American way of life is about to change whether we like it or not. Notice that no shots were fired, no one sent up a balloon saying “Russia no longer uses the dollar as a reserve currency!” No, it happened slowly and subtly. (ht Comrade)"
- Craig Eddy
from Bookmarklet
This is not a big deal for the US or Russia.
- Kevin D. White
Kevin: This is friendfeed. You have ample space to explain. I would love to hear why you think this.
- Stephen M. Otto
There really isn't that much to explain from an economic perspective. Russia has altered its mix of reserve assets. Big deal. It's not as if the Russian central bank is never going to buy another dollar or sell every last green back in the vault no matter what. The percentage decline isn't even that large. It's really a non-issue.
- Kevin D. White
You're correct in the sense that dollars exchanged for Euros by Russia per this announcement specifically aren't going to impact the dollar. However, what makes the story significant is that it is yet another ominous news story that points to the inevitable. Bretton Woods is broken, and tragically, the dollar will soon be as well.
- Stephen M. Otto
It is a telling sign that the other countries around the world are attempting to speak to our befuddled admin and president that they are tired of us borrowing from them and essentially us giving them the birdie. We need to control our spending and we are doing the complete opposite.
- Russ Jackson
Yep, the Euro and the Pound is rising against the $$ the markets are seeing greater signs of the possibility that the US is going to get into the habit of printing cash to pay down debt!
- Brian
Keeping money under the mattress like our elders is looking and becoming a better idea by the day. We could learn a great deal from our elders, unfortunately we tend to blow them off as crackpots
- Russ Jackson
And soon, Russ, they'll be too expensive to keep alive
- Craig Eddy
Gee, wonder why I own gold. :)
- Morton Fox
Craig this is why we need universal healthcare, they will get the help they need anytime at no cost.
- Russ Jackson
I worked at the IMF. The IMF has the third largest gold reserve in the world.
- Dave "Freedom 35"
So crazy addicted to Metric it's not even funny. Just popped Fantasies out to make myself listen to something else. Lasted about 15 seconds.
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one! I've actually offered to "reward" whoever was gonna recommend something that'll get me to stop listening to Fantasies. No one has been rewarded so far.
- Dee S.
I am really into it to; I was able to get one of the DJs to play it in the weekly music meeting at my station (CD101) and they added Help I'm Alive to the playlist (it has been number 1 on the daily request countdown for the last 10 days)
- RAPatton
I compromised by plugging in the iPod and putting all the Metric albums on shuffle. :) Then another time through Fantasies and I finally got myself to listen to some Belle & Sebastian. Dee, have you heard the new Yeah Yeah Yeah's album "It's Blitz"? That one's good, too - that's been my other repeat disc lately. But it took me a few listens to get into it. Fantasies was instantaneous love.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Try these: Anomie Belle - Sleeping Patterns; Angus & Julia Stone - A Book Like This; Bat For Lashes - Two Suns; Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career; Company of Thieves - Ordinary Riches; Ida Maria - Fortress 'Round My Heart; Metric - Fantasies; Polly Scattergood - Polly Scattergood; The Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love; The Rest - Everyone All At Once; Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz!; Ghost Ghost - Time is Gravity
- Michael W. May
I second MWM's recs of Camera Obscura and Ida Maria and Bat for Lashes. Writing down the others for my own use. :) I haven't actually gotten My Maudlin Career yet - good?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Quite. I am missing the horn though :|
- Michael W. May
hmm... attempting to put together a playlist of mostly '09 tracks I can put up somewhere, but my "MWM Sampler" includes 66 tracks at over 4.5 hrs... *ponder* that won't work... :P
- Michael W. May
66 tracks just from '09? I doubt I *have* 66 tracks from '09. Well, maybe. That's what, six CDs worth? Yeah I probably have that.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The group for this weekend's ride includes multiple firemen, first responders, and possibly an orthopedic surgeon. While there's never a good time for a motorcycle accident, this crowd is the one you want around if it happens.
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Unifroms? I'm there.
- sofarsoShawn
LOL! They're mostly the bear variety, and just about all are spoken for. However, I'll try to get some pics to post if that's you're thing ;-)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
LOL Shawn! Also, any members of the female persuasion in the mix? Besides you, Tina, of course.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
There's 1 lady rider (spoken for) and a few tag alongs like myself (also spoken for). But we'll be riding the Dragon Saturday which is chock full of stupids hanging their butts off crotch rockets in shorts and tank tops, plus a fair number of guys wearing head to toe racing leathers. Like I said, I'll try to get some interesting pics.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Get pictures .....
- Charlie Anzman
Pictures or it didn't happen
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
No worries, there are pics every year. My husband is but a mortal man, he can't resist snapshots of the shortie shorts precariously perched on the back of a bike. Personally, I like my skin where it is so I choose to bundle up all matronly-like.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
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*shrugs shoulders* I dunno
- sofarsoShawn
Livy gets a follow?
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Somehow, I get the feeling Shawn might be a little tri...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
tripe?
- sofarsoShawn
Wait. Didn't Hulk Hogan get divorced and start dating a woman that looks a lot like his daughter?
- CAJ, somewhere else
I am *so* suggesting this to TweetingTooHard. ROFL
- Admiral Anika
No dear, tri.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
LOL I'm tri?...sexual? or TRI? (an acronym I don't know of yet)
- sofarsoShawn
Sure, you've never meet a trisexual?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Well no...or are you talking about hermaphrodites armed with a toy?
- sofarsoShawn
No, no no. Trisexual. As in "try anything once" =D Sorry, just can't believe I got to draw that one out for this many comments...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
hilarious
- Cee Bee
Alan well maybe Hulk Hogan with out all the Freudian shizz
- sofarsoShawn
LOL Tina, I don't know about ANYTHING...
- sofarsoShawn
Mum's the word, my friend...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
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