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This is why blogging is great. I asked yesterday, why Roger McNamee has a Palm Pre. Just got the answer. http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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Blogging is great for you Dave, though, because you have reach. If I asked the same question (even though I get reasonable amounts of traffic), I'd probably never get a response.
- Kevin Elliott
now that I follow much more closely my Facebook and Twitter streams the other question is where to respond to the same friend.
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Where they participate most
- Jesse Stay
Why not reply on both? :) After all, perhaps Seesmic Desktop just needs to combine identical msgs, with icons of where it came in? :)
- Kevin Elliott
FriendFeed?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Seesmic just got me back from TweetDeck. New Facebook integration rocks.
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when is the update available?
- Jason
Robert, but ther's a integration in tweetdeck?
- Frank
Used Seesmic Desktop since it was released and I must say, its FUN when we can give feedback to team seesmic and you get answer from them almost at once, AND the best: they try to fix it for you
- Qbat
I was watching when you typed that :)
- Simon Wicks
and, yes, when is the update available?
- Frank
I think in about 1-2 days. Think that was what Loic said
- Qbat
Loic said "in few days" in its last Seesmic video (http://ff.im/2oV1P)
- Jérôme Flipo
man, it's possible to have one, just ONE application with friend feed, twitter, facebook and myspace integration?It's possible? :D
- Frank
Frank: Ping.fm ? :P
- Qbat
when are people going to realize that ff is the superior platform and just develop for here and be done with it?
- Jason
Still looking OK?
- Robert Scoble
yes Robert. GREAT
- Qbat
Thanks Larsen, but I want an application that integrate all my social activity. I want to see all my friends, all their status update and their activity. Ping is a simple service that makes updating social networks :)
- Frank
and lastly, someone needs to make an app that keeps ff and twitter friends in sync. I hate adding them manually to ff. It's a pain in the ass.
- Jason
OffTopic: Is it just Larsen that is displayd after my messages? or Larsen aka Qbat ?
- Qbat
So is that 1-2 days for even teamseesmic?
- Kevin Whalen
Hope they can keep memory usage down to DestroyTwitter's levels
- Manuel Mas
@ Joseph Zitt I want to replace my eee 701 with an eee 901 it has loads more memory and battery life.
- Aidan Mann
SD keeps getting better and better and Loic is very responsive. Now, all we need is FF support and this will be the perfect app (and since Twhirl already has FF suport, can SD support be far behind?).
- Chris Sparno
Until the UI is fixed, and it's off AIR, I won't use it. Native apps, FTW!
- Daniel Brusilovsky
I downloaded the last version of SD and it overwrote all of the user lists I had worked so hard to create. Until that is fixed, I won't be using SD for more than updates. I posted my feedback to Seesmic's user forum and no one responded. Lovely.
- Rachel Polish
I went back to try it out but I am going to stick with TweetDeck. I think Seesmic needs to learn from TweekDeck.
- Rohit
Agreed! I've just created a userlist called ScobleFeed, it only has one user... ;-)
- Luke Gregory
http://bit.ly/Bj0dC has got more potential than TweetDeck, and doesn't require any plugins/downloads either.
- David Semeria
Rachel, that user list bug should be totally fixed now. Daniel, you have no idea what it takes to create and maintain native apps as advanced as SD on both PC and Mac, I talked to Evernote today and they have LOTS of people to be able to do that.
- Loic Le Meur
Great job, Loic! It's great to have prompt response on our feedback and questions.
- Gerald Neo
That's just because Seesmic got preference by Facebook to present and see the OpenStream code before TweetDeck. Seesmic got a lucky, free head start. I'm happy for Loic in that matter, but TweetDeck will launch the same stuff, I'm pretty sure. Props to Loic for keeping good relationships with the Facebook team to be able to get opportunities like this.
- Jesse Stay
I am still super impressed with Tweetie desktop.
- Daniel Zarick
@Loic ... umm dude it's Thursday here in Africa ... I can haz new SD? ;) Since I deleted my Twitter account (thanks to Kutcher, Winfrey and "Twitter Trick" spammers) my SD testing has been on hold.
- Andy Kruger
Thanks, Loic! I will check it out again and am excited about the Facebook integration.
- Rachel Polish
Now all we need is Friendfeed integration and I'd love it.
- Brandon Mendelson
Giving it another try, but on initial start-up, I am still seeing some of the «issues» that have been irking me since the beginning: too much wasted space in the UI, CPU consistently over 5 to 10% usage, refresh problems lists not getting update or notifications not appearing & my twitter account icon not showing. I will continue to run it for a few days see how...
- Thomas V. Fischer
Seemic Desktop is a great example of iterative/customer focused development. A few more iteration and they might get me to switch from Tweetie (which is an amazing application)
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Does Seesmic Desktop suffer from the same memory leak issues as TweetDeck?
- Chris Poulson
TweetDeck is a lot better lately. But I don't care, I run TweetDeck/Seesmic on its own laptop that gets rebooted once a day. So steal my memory, please!
- Robert Scoble
What memory leaks does TweetDeck have? I run it on my Mac and never had any issues.
- Joe Lima
Joe: if you are following lots of people, like I am, it used to leak memory until it would eventually freeze my machine forcing a reboot. It no longer does that. So far neither does Seesmic's new desktop.
- Robert Scoble
I don't get Seemsic interface, staying w Tweetdeck
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
I'm getting tired of changing clients every week. I'll stick with Nambu until more dust settles.
- Doug Kaye
polizeros: you can make Seesmic look very similar to Tweetdeck by dragging things to create columns. Until I got that I didn't like it as much either.
- Robert Scoble
why is it a "seesmic" desktop while it has twitter, facebook... but not seesmic? it's got a cute UI but less features than twhirl used to...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
I think twhirl is being phased out, and seesmic desktop will eventually include additional services.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Excellent! I was just getting ready to switch.
- Kelly Williams
Can't wait for the FriendFeed integration coming soon!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Hanging out with @TechCrunch and @tripadler CEO of Scribd. Interesting off the record conversation. Mike still doesn't like friendfeed. Sigh.
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His loss.
- Mark Traphagen
Give it six months.
- Brandon Mendelson
I wonder if it's because people call him on his BS on here...
- xero
Perhaps remind Mike that many of TechCrunch's hits are coming from FFs that people are aggregating from Twitter ;-)
- Clifford Kennedy
if you can't convince him on FF Robert, truly NO ONE can!
- Kevin Pruett
He doesn't seem to be as devoted to participating in social networking as you are. He may never like it, because it can be so time consuming. He could use it the same way he uses Posterous if he wanted to though.
- Chip Ramsey
Robert, great job making me curious enough to click thru from Twitter, and leaving me hanging with the off the record remark. ;) J/K. Must say that one of the barriers to entry to ff is the lack of a decent client for the iPhone (for me)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
hey I am new to FF but it looks like I can watch your conversations...
- bev
I've seen many talking here that the web interface loads up nicely on the iPhone...maybe that was true for the beta only but now it's the live site.
- Kevin Kuphal
Kevin, true but that still not as usuable as a native client can be
- Shivanand Velmurugan
hmmm maybe I am just talking to myself here...
- bev
Maybe he should read your forward in "The New Rules of Marketing & PR. I can't believe you can steer him wrong with social media
- Daniel Hudson
Shivanand: I agree
- Chip Ramsey
Friendfeed stratification!
- bev
Mebbe I should get off my sorry ass and write one myself ;)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Shivanand: there is something called motherfeed, which is OK, but misses the mark for me. Hey, if you can build a good one, I would pay for it.
- Chip Ramsey
Tell Mike hes an idiot.
- loren feldman
Loren... you are always so sweet. haha
- Daniel Zarick
Let's see, I need to learn obj-c, get a Mac and then I'm all set. How hard can it be? The design for such and app would be quite a challenge = fun
- Shivanand Velmurugan
I hear you, bev. Welcome aboard. Re: beta on iPhone: I'm just about to go upstairs with mine and do my last ffing from under the covers. I haven't minded the beta - I'll start out with the ff app and see if it does more than just launch Safari.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
On the subject of a ff app: It would be nice to have a real app like the Facebook app - but I'm not a coder, and the ff desktop apps are mostly in Air. I don't think a ff iPhone app could be in Air - so Loic or another hardy soul would have to port their hundreds of hours' worth of work to whatever works on the iPhone beyond just html/css and completely re-test the whole thing . . .
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Tell him we said we aren't too fond of his act, either.
- Steven Perez
Robert - what are the 3 top things that Mike Arrington doesn't like about FriendFeed?
- Susan Beebe
he'll come around:)
- claudio alegre
That's his right. I don't much like it either. Maybe all people named Mike don't like it....
- Mike Shields
Ask him if he saw your video through. Maybe he can agree that that twitter and friendfeed can exist in unison, and that there is a place for both. Friendfeed is just another layer on the realtime/lifestream experience. Friendfeed is for geeks what twitter is for the general public. Geeks and social media addicts are used to dealing with the kind of information flowing in friendfeed, 'normal' people will quickly find it too much. That's why twitter suits them better...
- Kasper Sorensen
Amazing. Mike really should get over it. I really wish Twitter had this sort of functionality. Twitter is, for the most part, a good broadcast medium with a little bit of conversation amongst twitterers...but but friendfeed trounces it on all other levels. He KNOWS friendfeed is better, perhaps he should evangelize it.
- George Hall (Australia)
Wondering if anyone has done research on how twitter/friendfeed commentary is affecting blog comment counts. Need tool to link the two.
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My blog comments haven't gone down. My blog posting, on the other hand, has definitely suffered because of Twitter and friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
I @replied this on Twitter and FF didn't see the relationship. Would love to see that bridge.
- Dave Ferrick
The time i spend twittering would have been spent blogging. However as mobile usage grows, the mobile will become the preferred twitter device and we will get back to using our computers for blogging or work.
- Steve Plunkett
@rizzn & I talked about ff, disqus comments last night, think should flow like a two way street- he has some interesting stats
- michael sean wright
I've never maintained a blog regularly for any length of time - but I'll spend hours Friendfeeding and Facebooking. And I notice I'm getting a lot noisier here on ff.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
There are tools to bring FF discussion back to a blog. I think though, the more important question is, what is wrong with fragmented conversations? Paul Buchheit is right.. Discussions happen. Whether it's on friendfeed or around a kitchen table or on the original blog, the point is that they are happening. Eventually, us who converse can't help but return to you, the source, for things to talk about.
- Phil G
from BuddyFeed
Speaking just from personal experience, the availability of FF & tools like Disqus is making me much more likely to comment on a blog. And also of note, both tools make me much more likely to see a blog (because the link shows up in my stream from a trusted, respected source)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
This is Allen Stern's pet issue, I'm sure he can give O'Reilly some stats for CenterNetworks. Edit: I tweeted the relevant links, hopefully Tim can take it from here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I've actually considered turning friendfeed into my full time blog comment platform. It links to global conversation and reputation management better than individual blogger/wordpress/etc platforms.
- boz
Most of LinkLogs are gone. They live on Twitter. Blogging has certainly gone down.
- Dorai
we've got a plug-in we use to pull FF comments into blog, cross post blog comments back to FF. Has increased our number of comments substantially
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Marshall, What's the plug in and is it available?
- Molly
The Backtype Connect plugin seems to work pretty well for Wordpress - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
- Matt
There's a WordPress plugin, but I would dearly love an option for TypePad integration.
- Richard Akerman
I'm pretty sure RWW uses TypePad, Richard. Try messaging Marshall directly to see if you can't get a better response. Then again knowing RWW's high technical competence they may well have written their own plugin in house.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
the Movable Type plug-in we use was made by mt-hacks.com
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
My blog comments are down. People get personal when you comment on their blog. On FF/ Twitter, it's hard to delete your comments
- Vivek Puri
Unfortunately MT plugins can't be used directly in TypePad
- Richard Akerman
@Vivek - how is it hard to delete comments on FF?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Daniel J. Pritchett since someone else might be posting the original story.
- Vivek Puri
the thread owner can delete comments. the comment owner can delete comments. that's about it.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
can the MT plugin be used in Wordpress? I'm trying right now to figure out the best way to have both FriendFeed comments and Disqus comments on my blog.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@guruvan there's a WP plugin http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Richard Akerman
considering you can get twitter/friendfeed commentary in your blog now, i doubt its too big a deal these days. blog posting on the other hand, i notice that goes down nowadays... my rss reader isn't as filled up, as it used to be - FriendFeed is my new RSS reader
- Colin Charles
Rochard: Thanks Looking into that right now :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
hmm...no, that's not quite what I want. I think I saw what I want on Techcrunch. I can't locate discussion that I saw here about it either. A magic trick that integrated 9at least one way - pull from FF) comments from FF into the blog commentary
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@Rob: There's Disqus's FriendFeed sync, there's BackType's social mentions tracker, and there's Carter Rabasa's FF2Disqus as seen on LouisGray.com (https://ff2disqus.appspot.com/). Pick your poison!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Silos of comments aren't particularly useful, they lack the potential for connectivity. A friendfeed wordpress plugin would be the category killer.
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert, do you mean your volume of posting comments on blogs has gone down, or that the content you post on your own blogs has gone down/suffered because of your posting on Twitter/Friendfeed? Like many others, I prefer your longer thought out pieces on your blogs than your posts; certainly, however, don't cut off your finger (microblogs) to spite your arm (blogs).
- Chris Aldrich
I'm pretty sure Scoble meant (note, his comment is a month old) that he no longer devotes as much time to posting at scobleizer.com as he once did. He is still wired 24/7, he's just spread his presence out to more outposts i.e. FriendFeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Chris: both have gone down because of friendfeed. But I'm still writing longer posts when the opportunity strikes me. I'm working on a long one about Zappos right now, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
Analytics! Track whenever a blog comment is posted, and correlate those numbers against specific referring domains such as Facebook, Twitter, or Friendfeed to understand the impact. I do this with a number of my social-media-savvy clients and they love it.
- Shawn C. Reed
@Daniel interesting. May be worth it to Disqus-ify my blog just for the FF integration.
- Richard Akerman
Daniel: Thats IT! FF2Disqus Was the the item off to discover all the deets now :) Thanks!!!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@Rob: If you like it be sure to publicly thank Carter Rabasa! He doesn't get enough love for his great contributions IMO. http://beta.friendfeed.com/cubanli...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel: I will do that. I rave about my fav toys.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
today I noticed for the first time that ReadWriteWeb has an "also post to friendfeed" when commenting http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Jodi Schneider
i visit a more blogs and comment on them from twitter links, twitter has become the new rss feed for info.
- Steve Plunkett
I'm far more likely to comment on FF than on blogs, b/c blogs have more trolling and I don't revisit posts to check for replies.
- Daniel Dulitz
99,999 likes...
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EPIC!!!
- Helen Sventitsky
Will it roll back to zero on your next one?
- Jeanine W.
Whoa.
- Derrick
HIGH SCORE
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Will you be donating some mosquito nets?
- Mike Doeff
Better if it was beers on the wall.
- Steve C
Who's gonna get the next one?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
You win.
- Zach Flauaus
Nice odometer, Morton, wow.
- Micah Wittman
Morton WINS
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
At least there is one person with more than me, hehe. Cool, Morton. Who's going to get the 100,00th? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
6020 Likes this week WOW
- Joe Dawson
ok.. can you name your top 10 likes ?
- Peter Dawson
AMAZING!
- Thomas Hawk
part of this HAS to be that known condition of descriptions imported as comments, when these comments end up as if user manually posted, messing up one's "my conversations" functionality
- Petr Buben
Wow! I'll beat you to 1 Million ;)
- Nicholas James
NICE!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Wow!
- Bill Romanos
It's funny that this post is seeing more action that the other post for 100,000 likes. :) http://friendfeed.com/mortonf...
- Morton Fox
You are a machine!
- orionstarr
wow.
- anna sauce
Did you peg the odometer?
- Christian Anderson
Few more ... and you're the new Governor of NJ ?!
- Charlie Anzman
Sh***eutt. You 0wn this, so l33t. Very interesting feed now huh? Years of analyzing could be done, thinking of it now. Wow.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
99,999 friendfeed licks on the wall, 99,999 friendfeed likes. Take one down, un-like it, 99,998 friendfeed likes on the wall.
- DGentry
omg, 6020 likes in a week? (:
- Batu
Woah
- Shevonne
haha i missed this. This is pretty awesome Morton!
- Carlos Ayala
OMG you're gonna break FF ... LOL! :) that is amazing!!!!
- Susan Beebe
...that's a whole lotta LIKE!
- .LAG liked that
Damn!
- ZuDfunck
more like "you're gonna get carpal tunnel" from all that clickin'
- Rick Cogley
that is quite epic
- Chieze Okoye
Currently standing at 101,460 ... We all love you Morton
- Charlie Anzman
FriendFeed Blog: A whole new FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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We launched!
- Bret Taylor
Nice. I like the Email/IM notification accordion the the home page. The people who stayed on legacy FriendFeed are going to feel this one.
- Mark Trapp
Un-like!
- YusufOzanTasdemir
Can we get an old.friendfeed.com
- Andrew Smith
Congrats!
- Stephen Mack
I so love these new features. I have been using the beta since it came about, and I used it instead of the regular, ugly Friendfeed. One problem, their is no accounts button, how do I change other information. That was one slight design flaw that needs to be fixed.
- Zachary TG
@Andrew Smith +1
- Hüseyin Mert
Awesome :)
- Ross Miller
At last !
- Luka
i don't want to use this. There must be alternative to use old FF
- Filiz Koyuncu
congrat's
- mike "glemak" dunn
Zachary: we updated the "settings" page ("settings" link below your name in the top right); everything should be in there now. Let us know if you notice anything missing.
- Tudor Bosman
horrible :S we want old FF
- Kaan Ukturk
There are quite a few user styles available if you're using Firefox and the Stylish extension. http://userstyles.org/styles...
- tiffany
Guys, you're doing a bad thing launching half-baked version without a notice. There's at least no imaginary friends and I can't export my subscriptions now (I've used FrF as RSS reader and have hundreds of them). That's not mentioning another little tweaks you've missed (i.e. service icons — even FaceBook got it right, they have service icons for imported entries and have no for their own status updates). You're ruining the whole experience of managing a lot of information.
- Juras Vetrau
It's awesome. I really appreciate http://friendfeed.com/setting.... Also, I don't want to be negative, but is the "live search" coming?
- Jérôme Flipo
WANT OLD FF? http://friendfeed.com/alpb...
- Alp
congrats! now back to "listening to your users" pls :)
- Phil Smirnov
please give back old friendfeed, this one looks bad
- Peter
Juras, I think there are one other % of FF users who feel the same. Same think happened to Facebook users. But we've to move on. Imaginary friends can be added as "feed". The lack of service icons AFAIK increased the generic participation (in Friendfeed). You can create filters for "service=" if it's necessary. I agree with you on the OPML part.
- Jérôme Flipo
Rock & Roll! Very happy with the interface. Thanks for listening to the considered opinions you have, and implementing fixes when necessary. You guys have done a fantastic job of keeping people informed of new changes.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I still don't like it, but I still continue to using FF
- Kristian Salonen
Those who can't handle the real-time, press Q: RT will be disabled by default for your account (re-press Q for the flood).
- Jérôme Flipo
Juras: I'm pretty sure they've been letting everyone know about this for some time...Where have you been?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The settings to automatically post likes or comments to Twitter are missing.
- Pat Hawks
couldn't you just put the old FF to old.friendfeed.com or somewhere like that?
- Barış (beyn.org)
Bret, you SHOULD check this out. New realtime version has JavaScript errors can be observed in Firebug: http://i39.tinypic.com/33u64qp... Now, I got 93 error. I think you changed something about AJAX response format (?)
- Alp
+1 Rob, this is hardly without notice. They've been shouting about it for weeks.
- Pat Hawks
Alp: thanks, we are looking into the issue
- Bret Taylor
Always there are those resistant to change. I remind you all of the last couple of Facebook updates. At least the FriendFeed team listens and responds to complaints, problems and issues, and corrects them when necessary ----Big smiles and kudos for that!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@jeromeflipo: FrF was internet's GTD tool — one inbox for all links and discussions with accurately separated content. Now it's a vast of content where you should read instead of scanning. It takes much more time. New design is good but core features doesn't work properly.
- Juras Vetrau
You can find your Twitter publishing settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting.... You can find all the links to your settings by clicking the "settings" link under your name at the top right of every page (http://friendfeed.com/...)
- Bret Taylor
I love the new FF. Just wonder if the play/pause state can be remembered, so people might disable realtime updates.
- Arnaldo M Pereira
Bret, how do I get to the Advanced Twitter settings from the settings link under my name? I don't see it.
- Pat Hawks
Bret, you're welcome. I hope you don't remove http://friendfeed.com/realtime option for nostalgy :) By the way, in new version how can we learn users have subscribed us? You removed it from user popup dialog. And I think user-info popup has many whitespaces :) Why don't u fill them with comment/like stats? It shows the activity of user. I think it is critical.
- Alp
Would be great to get the "best ofs" in a list via email too.
- Steve Rubel
i love it!
- patrick
The play/pause state is remembered, so you can permanently turn off real-time if you don't want it. Steve: great point, we will add the ability to get "Best of" emailed to you.
- Bret Taylor
Play/pause wasn't remembered once, now it works. Maybe it was my mistake, thanks!
- Arnaldo M Pereira
Nice work.
- Caleb Elston
trying to enable IM notifications - maybe just slow? Not getting anything on the ol' GTalk..
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
love the new site, once I got use to it, keep up the good work
- Kim Landwehr
i really love the new interface :)
- alexandere
what?! beta can't be over, it's only been three weeks!
- Edward Zwart
Bret: I'm not seeing the posting link on the settings page: http://www.flickr.com/photos... How do you get to it without memorizing the URL?
- Mark Trapp
Feedback: http://friendfeed.com/yarosla... Thanks.
- yaroslav
@Yaroslav, totally agree.
- Alexey Ivanov
First impression: new design just sucks compared to the old one, ant to the twitter's, if that's what you want to be like.
- Andrey
@Yaroslav oh yes
- Химия и Жизнь
from fftogo
no, please, this doesn't make sense!!
- Giovanni Calia
Feedback : I want old FF ... Pls old.friendfeed.com
- Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik
where are you old ff?
- Ersin KOÇ
wo0T! the IM notifier ROCKS...I'M uber-stoked on that feature. (IM is the new email! lol!)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
No offends, but seriously, the visual design sucks.
- Alexey Ivanov
I wish it could use a little more of my monitor screen real estate. :)
- Ray Cromwell
Bret, Dan or s.b. else, another CRUCIAL PROBLEM I discovered, after this new release, when people subscribed to me, I got notification mails entitled "... subscribed to your Friendfeed" twice or three times (which have a few minutes of delay between each other). You changed anything about mails settings(?) My friends ALSO reported that they get 2+ mails for new subscriber notifications.
- Alp
Mark, you can find the posting link from the Tools page (found at the bottom of any page)
- Dan Hsiao
If you are going to give us all of this (wasted) grey space to the side of our live feed, at least let us put our own background on the page. I mean, that would make you that much more like twitter, which seems to be the goal.
- Wizetux
Qwerty: did you get a stupid picture gift (or see a bunch of "Which 70s rockstar are you" quizzes? LOL! -That's how you'd know you're on Facebook. (oh, and the new spam that they have there....got my first one today!)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Bret: Can I post via IM? If so can I CC:Twitter from there?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
doh! I didn't see the help link in the IM. I have another reading lesson scheduled for tomorrow
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
ok...the CC:Twitter via IM question still stands....if not, can you think about adding that?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Really like the new UI. Thanks!
- Oliver Bouchard
I need the feed icons back.
- Peter
i really like the new look and feel - the page scrolling when it auto-updates takes a little getting used to.
- J.D. Deutschendorf
Good beta period. Here's to the Whole New Thing™.
- Chris Baskind
http://friendfeed.com/sunipey... change your avatar now..!
- Kaan Ukturk
Dan Hsiao: aha! Thanks.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, it's now available under your settings too :)
- Dan Hsiao
Awesome, thanks Dan.
- Mark Trapp
How do I add virtual friends?
- Peter
The best thing about this is that ff.im now points at the new design.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
doubt i can get easily used to the "new" ff :( still have a firefox tab open on the realtime, with the old layout. guess i will just keep it as long as i can 0:)
- giuseppe c. | markgreene
I'm disappointed Imaginary friends has disappeared. I was actually using that feature to follow friends on Twitter (who didn't have FF accounts). Is there a way to do the same thing?
- Marc Chung
looks gr8!
- Amit
FOR ALL OF THOSE WANTING IMAGINARY FRIENDS: http://friendfeed.com/about...
- Wizetux
@Wizetux Thanks. Btw, your caps are on :)
- Marc Chung
New interface sucks. It really sucks, and giving headaches. You shouldve kept the old interface. Thanks for ruining one of my daily routines.
- Onur Gündüz
lovin it. are the best-of-summaries für the lists coming back?
- Marcel Weiß
@Marc: I know, I was attempting to yell over the noise of the grumbling over the new layout.
- Wizetux
Will it help if I join the crowd disliking the new version? Can't follow the conversation, too much color, too much moving around...
- Handem
Bret where are best of for lists? I don't see them anymore.
- Steve Rubel
The landing page - friendfeed.com - is especially great !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Bret, Turkish users ask a favor; please, we ask for old.friendfeed.com ~ old style, look our avatars.
- Hüseyin Mert
Not gonna happen, dude. Progress is progress.
- LANjackal
I don't understand how to create Imaginary Friends. Yes "create a feed", whatever that's real helpful, not. I think the source for every entry should be an icon on the right like the previous version. Real-time updates are interesting and comments are the only reason to use this over twitter. New posting feature is good but everyone isn't on FF so I need Imaginary friends to continue to use FF or else buh-bye!
- Jude
@Jude The terminology is a bit confusing: It should really read "create a group" and add feeds to the group: Click "Browse /edit groups" > "Create a group". Setting it to private is basically the same thing as creating an Imaginary friend.
- Marc Chung
恭喜上线
- 阿石
Please, old style friendfeed interface.New interface is wrong...
- nagas
@Marc, @Wizetux thanks for clarifying. At some point during the beta they were using the terminology, "create a feed" and now you have to click on Groups in order to get to the place to "create a feed" but you have to know that it's called "create a group" - AWKWARD ... I think that is a navigational fail and a nomenclature fail. "Create a feed" is important enough that it should have it's own link on every page OR Groups should just be called Feeds.
- Laura Norvig
Yep. It's one of the most enjoyable and notable addition in years in the way it's handled. It's in its complexity where, as the experiment is, as a whole a very as speedy, as you want it and as slow as reading is. Missing everything or nothing. Noticing and warming up of individuals, all linked by that exercise, always now expanding. Good job to all of you, the ideas were really good in all ways. As played out. Many thanks. ;p
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
for the interface. I think it is not as good as old edition.
- Ccming
I WANT THE OLD VERSION PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
- TechFuga
I hope you have read my bug report above.
- Alp
or can we have a link for the old version!!!!
- TechFuga
One more request: can we please have an API for userscripts? Due to dynamic nature of pages it suddenly became very hard to do anything persistent to FriendFeed from Greasemonkey. All I need is a hook from inside FrF javascript to process new portions of pages.
- Alex Kapranoff
+1 to Alex Kapranoff's request. Also, please at least bring back service icons (them missing really interrupts my parsing of the stream, especially with those big ass avatars), if you won't provide us with http://old.friendfeed.com (or http://classic.friendfeed.com :P)
- Gina Häußge
Gina, there is a user script to add service icons, in case that helps: http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Micah Wittman
Micah, thanks, already found that (first thing was to look up on userstyles and userscripts for means to help myself ;)), but it's kind of a hack, and IMHO it would be way better if the FF team included that feature back into the code base. Don't know why anyone would consider it a good idea to remove it in the first place tbh, but hey, we all know these days...
- Gina Häußge
I don't want to use this. There must be alternative to use old FF
- altblog #❶
Congrats, guys. Even works on IE6 now.
- James Myatt
get over it and use a third party client... you sound like people who use CDs
- Kemp Edmonds
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Kemp, show me one that works as well and is as visually appealing as the old site (and also on both windows and linux without depending on Air (because that still kinda sucks under Linux)) and I'll shut up ;)
- Gina Häußge
sadly as a windows user and therefore pleeb (Slang for plebian. Often used to refer to noobs in an elitist sense.) by Macers and Linux' who can't help but be the envy of all. Sadly I sit contented by massive numbers of development projects and a variety of programs to choose from that is generally unlimited in cutting edge web apps... although I am a windows pleeb.
- Kemp Edmonds
from twhirl
@Micah I tried the script. It doesn't work with imaginary friends.
- Peter
now look super
- Faizar
How do I create imaginary friend feeds in the new gui?
- Carlos Brefe
Ouch, don't like. Agree with some of Juras V's comments, this makes skimming my feed for keeping a pulse on info/discussions MUCH worse for the time-starved (not speaking of RT aspect). Oh well, will try this for a bit, but feels like point where in Tom Peters' language FF is moving to "fire me as a customer." (Yes, I know we're not paying customers. I would have paid for old svc, was...
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- Casey
Will the daily activity emails (basically a digest) resume? Mine seemed to halt Apr 27 and the Email settings which seem currently available are absolutely flooding my inbox (had to turn it off within 5 mins). Please bring back daily digest type emails, really helpful if away for business or other reasons and ability to skim to catch up on info.
- Casey
@mchung Thanks for trying to clarify. Although creating a feed does not work the same since if a person already has a feed that's private, I can't use the same name. Bring back imaginary friends!!!
- Jude
Congrats FF... sorry I am late to the party...my work life is outta control... crazy busy! I miss FF :(.....
- Susan Beebe
I fully converted to FriendFeed BETA soon as it launched as I thought it rocked - now I don't have to put beta.friendfeed.com all the time :)
- Nicholas James
My impression of the new Friendfeed... http://j-m-williams.com/2009...
- Jason Williams
This is awesome! Back from the future! I _cant_ use twitter anymore. _cant_.
- Lakshman Prasad
Its not my friendfeed, its a horrible dream! :((
- Инк Лонгтан
you need a graphic designer or art director i think.
- Furkan Tunalı
dislike :(
- Trou Macacq
design (layout, interaction) had been mostly better in old variant, but AJAX engine you use in new variant just rocks (old ajax code was dead meat slow crap for desktops on steroids)
- A.T.
Bret, this page is has no entries right now: http://friendfeed.com/bret.... Your first comment page is OK, but all the next ones are empty. Weird.
- Jérôme Flipo
so oprah was injected into the twitter default list immediately - got a nice 700k followers and hasn't posted in a week - discuss.
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She has to go do bed without dinner!
- Dave Winer
The fact that this surprises anyone surprises me.
- Alex Scoble
The same is probably true for her followers, I'd be surprised if more than 50% get what Twitter is
- Jorge Escobar
attention deficit disorder?
- bob phillips
She's probably off evaluating JaikuEngine vs Laconica for her own Harpo-branded microblogging community site. Not.
- Ken Sheppardson
clearly the line that the twitter founders gave us about how people get on the list is a joke, but we knew that already.
- Allen Stern
Who? The nearest I get to following a 'star' is the British comedian Stephen Fry because he genuinely interacts and makes me roar with laughter. Mind you, FabooMama does that too :-)
- Sally Church
700K followers isn't social it's marketing. And they probably didn't see that much bang for their buck yet ... so ... off to something else.
- AJ Kohn
We knew that Twitter was going to place its "celebrity" users into the default list and especially oprah after shes increased traffic to Twitter.
- Nicholas James
I mention this thread on my latest blog post: Read/Write Twitter: Twitter’s real value is up to you http://cli.gs/78ZLP2
- Jorge Escobar
she is like 60% of those who try twitter -- they do not return
- Bob Boynton
I think it's unfortunate that there are celebs out there that don't harness twitter, but just get an account to gather followers. What's the point if you're not communicating? I'd be happy with just a portion of those followers (100k), but I actually engage.
- Kevin Elliott
I am laughing. Twitter's story is about to get worse.
- Robert Scoble
I am not at all surprised. I think the Oprah publicity did more harm than good to Twitter.
- rob
Fuck Twitter. Block me bitches.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
What's even funnier to me: Not that people are surprised but that anyone expected her to post regularly in the first place.
- Trish R
She had three posts today if anyone cares…
- Erik K Veland
she doesn't get it give the poor girl a chance ...she'll be back
- Thomas Power
We were discussing this a few days ago, contains some interesting point of views. "Does Twitter's Recommended Users List Give an Unfair Advantage to the Privileged Few?" http://ff.im/2nwsb
- Sharon McPherson
Maybe she is scared of the mistake Hugh Jackman made with his Ghost Writer
- Azzam
Hmm. Let's see. You build a website that people use for free. That website gets OPRAH to join... I'd put her face on the front page holding a big blue bird that says "follow-me!" tattooed on its forehead, even if she doesn't use it all too often. "Oh no! it's been a whole week since she hasn't updated!" - Who cares? Don't like the SUL? Don't look at it. Don't like Oprah getting followers? Don't look. That's the wondrous beauty of Web 2.0; user-controlled environment. Make of it what you want.
- Sociosophy Reviews
Her assistant is likely too busy.
- Jim Goldstein
that is why @oprah is fail. Plain and simple. #toughroom
- Drew Lucas
I think the Oprah/Kutcher try Twitter live incident truly was Twitter's jump the shark moment
- Brian Sullivan
What's an oprah? Isn't that like a vegetable or something? As far as I know, vegetables are not capable of using twitter.
- Jeremy Brooks
Who's Oprah?
- Matt Warren
lame
- Susan Beebe
If Twitter put me on the Suggested Users List, I'd: 1. Request to be removed. 2. If the request wasn't honored, I'd delete my account.
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Same goes for me!
- Matthew DeVries
Not Me! I'd celebrate, strip naked, and howl at the Moon!
- ZuDfunck
Why would you do that?
- Angsuman Chakraborty
I would announce it to all my friends and family and then probably delete it , I don't need the pressure
- Kim Landwehr
why
- andy brudtkuhl
oh come on!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
It would be a disaster if I got on the SUL. I already spend too much time screening new followers.
- Morton Fox
I've never clamored for followers and don't understand why people do so.
- Derrick
Question: If FriendFeed had a SUL; and you were on it, would you say the same thing if you started getting more subscribers? - I sense bias.
- Sociosophy Reviews
I agree with @sociosophy, this double standard about griping about Twitter's list and not about Friendfeed's is ridiculous. Can't we all just move on, I'm sure there are better things to be discussed.
- Brandon Mendelson
The FF SUL is not hand picked... it's done based on who are FoaF and are popular
- Chris Heath
Here's the deal -- number of followers on Twitter is a totally different thing from the number on FF. When you click on a name in Twitter there is the number of followers, in big type. They bury the number of followers in FF. I don't know how many I have and I don't want to know. I also don't know how many you have or Scoble has. But on Twitter it's almost as prominent as their name. So it matters. You can say it doesn't for you, but it does for almost everyone else.
- Dave Winer
Hence my question, Chris. If FF had a hand-picked SUL, I doubt the discussion would be the same. Additionally, I agree with Brandon - there's plenty more crap to gripe about, like the bad styling choices made for FF with this new launch.
- Sociosophy Reviews
I love it!!! I think that is the very thing that is diluting twitter.. Good call Dave.
- Drew Lucas
But it got gamed in a bad way on Twitter, openly, and now you have this strange thing where it matters, the numbers are quoted, people write stories about them, and they are often meaningless. My numbers actually kind of mean something, I say kind of because in comparison with those of others you have to ask whether the other guy is on The List or not.
- Dave Winer
Ryo, I hear you, but it seems to me that Twitter has reached it's breaking point, jumped the shark, whatever you want to call it. I know when I see people who claim to be social media experts, or follow or are followed by 10K people, it's a big turn off and I can't block them fast enough. If I was in the market to do something via social media, I'd look for something post-Twitter to help me get my message out.
- Derrick
That and on a personal level -- I really resent that other people get special treatment and even more it rubs our nose in the fact that there are *three* levels in Twitter: 1. Peons. 2. Special People. and 3. Gods. The gods not only are special, but they have the power to annoint people as special. I liked the web because it was a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. That's what I want to go back to now. I think the plantation model has run its course.
- Dave Winer
One more thing -- I don't think FF is any better. We have to get out of this mode where we're test cases in an ant farm owned by these programmer types. I don't like this new UI and if this were part of the web, I could ignore it. I'm going back to the web -- this is ridiculous. I've learned all I'm going to learn from these systems. They suck. Moral of the story.
- Dave Winer
We have to remember that this is only mirroring real life. Whether we like it or not, there are class systems in the entire world, and that certainly includes the United States. Those who are rich, seem excessively rich. Actors, football players, and others get paid insane amounts of money for jobs that really aren't that much harder than any other. There are people with billions of...
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- Kevin Elliott
Dave I completely agree. The new UI is stark and bold and lacks any nuance. I call it 'early BlogSpot'. I miss the dialogue bubble and the source app icon. If they leave the old real-time pop-out URL intact I won't care.
- Gregg Scott
Kevin, of course -- but -- they can change anything they want with blogspot or wordpress.com and I can go on editing Scripting News as always cause it's on my own domain and I control the software there. I'm talking pragmatics. And if Twitter gave a reporter 500K free followers on Twitter, I might stop trusting what that reporter says about Twitter. And in general I might wonder if...
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- Dave Winer
We should stop trusting that reporter now, since Twitter *is* essentially giving people hundreds of thousands of followers without merit already! I'm sorry, but Oprah getting 700k followers is ridiculous.
- Kevin Elliott
Actually I don't completely agree. The UI I'm not craxy for. That's it.
- Gregg Scott
Kevin, that's exactlly right. That's why I said they poisoned Twitter as a medium for news when they invented the SUL and I meant it and I believe it, and I think it's obvious.
- Dave Winer
I will repeat it here: Twitter mass follows are the new Spam. It's making the noise louder.
- William Mougayar
Just logged in with my Gmail creds and FF knew who I was. This is getting interesting
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HAH!
- Bwana ☠
how did you login with your gmail creds?
- Zee.
Zee - Go to the front page logged out or see the photo/thread I posted this morning!
- Charlie Anzman
Dunno about any of you but I log in with my street cred.
- Akiva Moskovitz
i sure hope that friendfeed knows the difference between PERSONAL mail and friendfeed stuff.
- tojfs7931
it's openid or oauth. Check out Chris Messina... let me see if I can find that post.
- Jim in Real Time
i smell a buy out-- soon! from Google.
- tojfs7931
Nobody is buying or selling anything at this point. That's not how it works.
- coldbrew
Interesting that Facebook or Google credentials -- and Twitter oauth isn't supported (yet)? Makes sense, I guess, since Twitter is smallest of the big openid/oauth supporters.
- Eric Johnson
They're just using OpenID + Attribute Exchange. In fact, anyone who supports OpenID + AX can get the signing in user's email address from Google.
- Chris Messina
"For once, the coolest guy in the country is also the president. Those two stars don't align very often." - Bill Maher
Mathew A. Koeneker, Atul Arora and Kevin Elliott liked this
Heh, lose control of your iPhone and funny things happen! :-)
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Lol :/
- Colin
Who wrote "I'm an idiot" on your iPhone? I'm curious!
- Kevin Elliott
I keep having nightmares about my Iphone. Either it gets lost, stolen or broken. I clearly have issues.
- BEX
Bill, wouldn't Rick Astley need to be singing a nudie dance on his iPhone for it to be considered a Rick Roll though? ;)
- Kevin Elliott
I'm concerned that I'll lose control and buy one.
- jcunwired
I was wondering why you posted that.
- TheHenry
Someone installed *swings* on a BART train in SF [PICS] - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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@sanfrandan I love Smule anything! Did u meet the Smule dude in the white suit and cymbals at SXSW?
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I really like the Smule apps too. So inventive and interactive. I can't wait to see what they do once they run out of instruments
- Kevin Elliott
"It's a pandemic, now what?" — Excellent article on social impact of flu pandemics, comparing to 1918. http://www.fluidinfo.com/terry...
Kevin Elliott liked this
Ugh. I hate the smell of the Westfield mall. It's a combination of rabbit turds, football & ignorance. #elitismftw
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Ignorance has a smell? Who knew?
- Anthony K. Valley ©
oh brother.
- Brooks Bayne
The Twitter backlash is in full effect; http://tech.msn.com/news... (swine flu misinformation spread) and http://www.businessinsider.com/oprah-a... (Oprah's bored)
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Of course she's bored, she's only following 11 people who tweet things that she can learn by picking up her phone or turning on the evening news. If she really wants to experience the full power of Twitter she should start following people outside of her "inner circle". Checking out some of the Twitter profile pages of her fans and interacting with them would be a good place to start. I can see it now, a new weekly segment to the Oprah Show, 'Oprah Tweets with the Fans'!
- Sharon McPherson
Sharon: but she must be a good Twitterer because Twitter recommends that I follow her!
- Robert Scoble
she could very well be a trojan horse for twitter
- Kashif Khan
wow - we bitch about twitter and their default list but cmon - i just signed up for a new friendfeed account and was presented with a default list - techcrunch, mashable, loic all on there with next to zero activity - hmm - why bash one and not the other?
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Oh, we bash the default list here, too. Often.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I thought we DID bash FF? I thought we made a big stink about it? Maybe I'm losing it :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
i posted about it and did a video about it a year ago - seems nothing has changed :( but hey we gotta keep the top on top!
- Allen Stern
you know, ff has so much data on all of us - why not just ask the new user "give us 2 things you are interested in" - then find 10 people who match those things? that'd be damn hot and would move ff past twitter, etc.
- Allen Stern
Allen: the friendfeed list is a meritocracy. The Twitter one is not. The friendfeed list is based on numbers of followers. It is the same as the ffholic list. The Twitter list is NOT based on numbers of followers. It is NOT the same one as on Twitterholic.
- Robert Scoble
Also, the friendfeed list is NOT on by default. You have to manually add people. You can NOT add everyone as a group (like you can with Twitter's list) And the list is infinite, it will keep going as long as you have time to scroll through and add people.
- Robert Scoble
Allen: does the list you see match this one? http://www.ffholic.com/Users...
- Robert Scoble
Once you log in, by the way, friendfeed presents a totally different list: one that's based on who you chose to follow. So, if you don't follow anyone who knows me, for instance, you'll see the most popular person your friends follow.
- Robert Scoble
It seems much more difficult to be followed or added here Robert. Is that my imagination?
- Gregg Scott
Gregg: just mouse over my name and you'll see a tile with whether or not your are following me. Or, click on my name and you'll see a subscribe link. I've done that manually thousands of times, so it's not that hard.
- Robert Scoble
yea I know robert - but why should they pimp people who don't use the service at all either? naturally someone like yourself belongs there - also thomas hawk, etc - but if i am interested in food or health topics and not tech, why not present me with a list of people who I might be interested in and stay around - if i only want health/food and subscribe to say mashable because ff says to, will i leave? think about that one :)
- Allen Stern
To Subscribe is easy. To be 'Subscribed to' by other FriendFeeders though I mean. I imagine it is based on contributing to discussions.
- Gregg Scott
Allen: TechCrunch is a user of the service. They shove their items in here and I like their feed. It's my number one most engaged with feed. So what if they don't comment or like anyone else's items here? By the way, notice I'm number one here. Why is that? I engage so the system is rewarding me for doing that.
- Robert Scoble
In my experience putting great content into the system matters more than participation, but participation DOES matter too. Maybe they should have two separate lists?
- Robert Scoble
Gregg: I get subscribed to both by participating as well as talking about this on my blog a lot, which gets people to come over here and follow me.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert! I do challenge you at times but I appreciate your willingness to build and engage communities. You almost always reply to comments--mine and others--which I find increasingly rare by the Technorati.
- Gregg Scott
Gregg: out of the "A list" I find I'm one of the few who links more often to other people's stuff rather than my own on my http://beta.friendfeed.com/scoblei... list. I wish there were more too.
- Robert Scoble
I wrote about the difference between just throwing feed items in and actually participating a couple of weeks ago. what im suggesting is that ff is missing a real golden opportunity to match users with their interests - not just presenting the top 20 subscribed, etc.
- Allen Stern
i bash nothing, they all do a fine job on their own ;/
- chaz2b
You did bash it very clearly not so long ago, Allen. But FriendFeed's default is less "hand selected" by Twitter, but instead selected by the community who opted to follow those folks and push them to the top. To remove them would require "hand deselection" of sorts.
- Louis Gray
Allen, I agree and that should be much easier to do with the beta search filters. Allow a new user to specify a few interests and then present a list of best matches.
- Greg Guitarbuster
ok let me just clarify - ff's list is better than twitters - i think we all agree on that - now focus on my suggestion for improvement and let's discuss that - if my interest area was tech for example, i would expect the current default list i guess...
- Allen Stern
Yellow card submitted to Robert for "I'm one of the few who links more often to other people's stuff rather than my own." :) The "likes" list only shows other people's content, so everybody's like list is 100% other people's stuff. Mine is here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
maybe the default list should just be a list of the guys who can piss the farthest.
- Karim
Sounds like sour grapes. I've never even considered the idea. Who cares how many subscribers you have? People with an agenda different from my own.
- coldbrew
Louis: right and how many A Listers like lots of other people's stuff? Go down the ffholic page and tell me how many.
- Robert Scoble
We both know many of the A-Listers are simply inactive. I gave you a yellow card, not a red card for that one. :)
- Louis Gray
since we all seem to care about ff's success possibilities - what im trying to suggest would increase that % - i just wrote a post about making things easier to improve your startup and it touches on this
- Allen Stern
Allen: this stuff is all moot once you figure out the search engine here.
- Robert Scoble
I think the lists are often insidery and aren't always valuable to the average user but I don't personally mind. I think it's a potential way for social networks to make money in the future - maybe not off the present people but larger brands, etc. I work in a market where the "A list" is totally different. :) Nobody would know who any of the people are, so I think they should try to diversify, etc.
- Patricia
thanks robert - will look into that more as I don't use it as much as I probably should/could
- Allen Stern
I'd probably get shot for saying this, but, I'd be more interested in seeing new people on the list. Isn't it much more fun and spicy to connect with vast users than the same ones on twitter, friendfeed or facebook? Just saying. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
Allen: the search engine is much better on http://beta.friendfeed.com
- Robert Scoble
The suggested list upon sign up needs to be randomised to show popular and active users. We had this discussion a while back. Shame it's not changed.
- Kol Tregaskes
For example, Kol should be on the list. Moreover, Mona should be on the top of the list.
- Michael Fidler
That's very kind, Michael, I'm not worried either way but I think the list should be more mixed. Some of the most popular users are hardly active on FF. Robert is active and popular so that's fair he is on the list but some are not, I'm sure the more active users or put a lot int FF itself would appreciate being on such a list?
- Kol Tregaskes
I am starting to come around to Allen's position. Friendfeed should make its list more focused on participants rather than popularity.
- Robert Scoble
But really they need a directory of many different lists. Sort of like AllTop. If I am into quilting why is friendfeed suggesting TechCrunch to me?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I was thinking of a directory similar to but perhaps smaller in scale than Twellow.com, but I agree, a directory would be very helpful to new FF users looking for specific niches.
- Sharon McPherson
Not at the Facebook thing event though, yes people, I was *invited*. Deciding I like the irony of invite-only open web events.
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Indeed, what a great irony. Invite-only open-web events!
- Kevin Elliott
Inside Steve Jobs’ tear-down mansion - http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009...
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"On Tuesday a California city council will reconsider Steve Jobs’ longstanding request for permission to tear down the empty 84-year-old mansion that stands on the site where he wants to build a smaller, modern house more to his exacting taste."
- Jonathan Kong
from Bookmarklet
No way! We'll get Turbo and Ozone to have a dance and stop those developers from tearin' down our rec center man! Oh, wait a second.
- Fleagle
+1 Fleagle
- Bill Sodeman
would his "exacting taste" exclude anything with buttons or knobs? (p.s. you rock Steve!)
- Jason
Fun video made with Google Latitude -- when is iPhone version coming? Friendfeeders will enjoy this one. - http://services.google.com/latitud...
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Neat video from the folks at Google. Google Latitude is quite nice, but one problem: it crashes on my Nokia phone because of a bug with too many friends. It looks like they might have fixed that, at least on Android. I gotta get myself a G Phone.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Fun thing is this video is fake. You can spell out anything you want (click on create). Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
aww thanks for spoiling the secret robert ;-)
- Chris Heath
Fake or not it's a fun concept.
- Brian Acklen
Chris: I'm a spoilsport. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
somebody has an imagination!
- tom
agreed Brian
- Chris Heath
Hah! That's fantastic.
- Jeffrey Marsh
rad! waiting anxiously for the iPhone version...
- metalerik
...just reminds you of how cool a city San Francisco is!
- .LAG liked that
didn't google say that an iphone app would probably never come out w/o apple's special approval (because it needs to background and even the new 3.0 firmware won't allow what latitude needs)?? ... all because of battery life, right?
- Chris Heath
the "fakery" is all my fault (and without the knowledge or endorsement of the Latitude folks, btw). I actually think it's pretty darn clever and funny how they created this viral option. It got me to "make" and send videos not only to Friendfeed, but also to a bunch of friends, too. :)
- Adam Lasnik
Man, I almost didn't click this link to see this cool video, even if it's fake. Too good.
- Kevin Elliott
This is really cute!!!!!! LOVE it - Thanks @Adam :) you guys rock!!
- Susan Beebe
When I read the headline, I thought Google had launched a competitor to Seesmic with geodata!
- Pat Hawks
Nice. But latitude is never that accurate. At least on my G1 phone. It usually has me in the center of a few mile radius.
- Matt Soreco
Hey Matt, I swear I'm not meaning this as a "did you plug it in?" prompt, but... sometimes it can be easy forget to turn GPS on on the G1 (I don't think it's the default). Have you checked? It may just be using (much less accurate) non-GPS methods of determining location.
- Adam Lasnik
It's funny seeing some people who are overjoyed that I got rid of the green photo and others who are very disappointed. Heheh.
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I hated it. But now I kind of miss it.
- Kate
OK, this is weird. You miss it Kate? Isn't it right... over there? <-------
- Ken Sheppardson
I still see it
- Mark Essel
Some people need to get out more :)
- Bwana ☠
is there way to get a new window to pop up (small) when I comment on a post and have it fade if i'm not active in it after some preset time?
- Mark Essel
Also still seeing it. Will try to refresh, perhaps another example of realtime cache issue
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I still see it as well.
- Tad
Well, the people who miss it can still catch it on FF.
- Rich Brooks
Robert said earlier he changed his Twitter photo back but left it on FF. I'm just sorta confused how Kate isn't seeing it, unless... oh... she's not on the beta? That's probably it.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ah...just on Twitter. No ones icons were loading for me so I had no idea.
- Kate
The Sculk avatar is still showing on FF, FWIW. Twitter has the ol' familiar photo
- Robert J Taylor
Odd, I still see the green photo on friendfeed beta just like rjamestaylor.
- Alex Scoble
Still Green
- John D Reasor
I think it's just not green on his Twitter. But I was seeing no icons for anyone at the time so I didn't realize it was just Twitter.
- Kate
I like the green better than the camera tripod picture, that wasn't very flattering
- Matthew DeVries
green is good
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
disappointed
- anna sauce
Ah yes, I'm seeing the cool green one (yes, I like the green one) here on FF beta and the old tripod over the shoulder one on Twitter via Seesmic Desktop.
- Andy Kruger
I think you should make it orange!
- Louis Gray
Not a nice photo for Earthlings, Martians might like it.
- John C Wesley Barker
from Nambu
it's not easy being green. i like it either way.
- grant fox
The regular photo looks much better
- rob
It's still on your FriendFeed ;)
- Nicholas James
Congratulations...you're the Clippy of Friendfeed. I remember from my Office days that, believe it or not, half of user actually liked the little animated helper guy. The other half hated him passionatey.
- Aaron Tinling
I liked it. It still shows up on my FriendFeed in Nambu for iPhone. Lucky me!
- Greg McBride
from Nambu
ur much nicer than green man
- Thomas Power
I like green photo, i made a green one also for me, i will keep it until beta.ff switch to official :)
- CantorJF
i say go back to the green robert
- (jeff)isageek
I like it, I think it's whimsical.
- Christian (Simply X)
When you write something good it doesn't matter what color you are. :-)
- Håkan Dahlström
I just refreshed the page - I still see it.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
I don't care what chromatic preference you express. But I am fascinated that you and so many people have time to spend on such an issue. Uh, I've spent 93.5 seconds thinking about and typing this? Yeah, you're right. What a waste of my time. :P
- Lorin Olsen
I still see the green pic. Is there a way for me to update something?
- Tad
You are still green to me, Robert.
- WorldofHiglet
You can make all of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of the people happy all of the time. Funny though!
- Kevin Elliott
I like both - funny! :)
- Susan Beebe
Still green here, on both Old and New FriendFeed.
- Tyson Key
Tyson and everyone else. The post was made on Twitter and is referring to Robert's Twitter feed ;)
- Nicholas James
Aah, now I'm just puzzled. Still, I probably wouldn't see Robert's Tweets without FriendFeed...
- Tyson Key
I like the "Scoble SMASH" picture, though admittedly the cropping to fit as an avatar made it more difficult to tell that you're wearing Hulk gloves.
- DGentry
Photo from Cisco chairman's office: - http://ourdoings.com/roberts...
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I am hanging out with @omarsultan and @aplese looking out the window in front of John Morgridge's office at Cisco. What is the grey building in middle of photo? A power plant. Reminder that Silicon Valley's new Internet companies need tons of power to run their datacenters.
- Robert Scoble
That's a big parking lot
- Liviu Lica
I think that executive office should be higher, like min 30 floors. For better views.
- Alpay Erturkmen
Note to everyone: I do NOT retweet on demand, even if your cause is good. I get too many requests to do that.
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Will you please retweet that for me?
- Jesse Stay
I'd like to see how many people do retweet that though - *that*'s good content. :-)
- Jesse Stay
People ask for re-tweets? Tut, tut.
- Kol Tregaskes
I never retweet people, does that make me a bad twitter user?
- Talon Lardner
Kol: yeah, people are starting to figure out that if I retweet them it gets some hits. Talon: you're a bad Twitter user! :-) First rule of Twitter? There are no rules. :-)
- Robert Scoble
haha good one jesse
- (jeff)isageek
@Robert - seriously, people are just now realizing you have a jillion click-happy followers?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Strange petitions...
- Marcos Vicente
Daniel: more and more are. The network is growing and pulling in tons of newbies.
- Robert Scoble
so thats whats up with the green avatar...scare people away from asking for RTs.
- BCK
BCK: I like how it looks with the new http://beta.friendfeed.com
- Robert Scoble
I don't retweet at all. It's lazy.
- Louis Gray
@ Louis i re-tweet every now and then, some in my circle aren't hip to some of the other worlds we travel. trying to connect the nodes. over and out.
- michael sean wright
Funny - I'm about to launch blackshirtwhitetext.com and one of the shirts says "No, I will not ReTweet you" because of this type of craziness. Robert, I would be honored to send you one . Hit me back @dejon97 if you are interested.
- John McCullough
Louis: but you do "like" and that's just lazier way of retweeting. Takes one click. Doing a RT: takes four to type "RT: " and one to click post. Liking takes one click. That's why I "like" a lot more than I retweet. More efficient.
- Robert Scoble
Louis, ReTweeting, to me is a way of giving back to the people who retweet my stuff.
- Jesse Stay
John: that's funny! Would love to see the shirt, at least.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, on TweetDeck it's just one click to RT :-P
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: no it's not, it's two clicks.
- Robert Scoble
What if we ask nicely - WITH a cherry on top (hmmm????).
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Scoble, will Detweet on demand?
- Matthew DeVries
Robert, no rules? Apart from asking for re-tweets, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@ Jessie If he retweeted everything, then I wouldn't value his tweets as much as I do...
- Tim McDougall
Ken: I hate being asked. Let me make up my own mind if your item is cool enough to pass along.
- Robert Scoble
Tim: right. Kol: that's not a Twitter rule. That's a Scoble rule. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Tim, it's not about Retweeting *everything*. It's about Tweeting good content, and giving credit where credit's due.
- Jesse Stay
I know... I would hate it too. I'm just giving you a ribbing, Robert.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Ah, Robert, noted. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Intelligent cat door utilizes Twitter, RFID masterfully - http://fredwilson.vc/post...
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very cool!
- Ville Vesterinen
hmmm, cat hasn't been in for a while (or, no, twitter's down again...)
- Alex Gawley
I want.
- Kevin Elliott
Now even wider — Pano 3 for iPhone
Just got this app… really cool for the iPhone peeps. - http://buzzyapyear.tumblr.com/post...
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I'm really happy with the update! Although, I wish 16 wasn't a hard limit. Still, better than 6.
- Kevin Elliott
my electrician just raised his hands in the air declaring "I am an electrical god!" so, i guess everything is going well with the install.
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Either that, or something was very wrong to begin with and he finally figured out why he screwed it up? :)
- Kevin Elliott
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