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Who is doing the best job at helping people build best-of-breed business web sites? Discuss here:
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Amazon?
- Varun Mahajan
I ask because last night I asked a question for Printing for Less CEO about how to use social media to get business and Altan Khendup posted this site http://www.ignitingtherevolution.com/ which I checked out and liked a lot for marketing inspiration. Need the same kind of thing for web site inspiration.
- Robert Scoble
Amazon, CafePress, Ebay?
- Live Crunch Blog
from twhirl
Varun: Amazon's web services would certainly be discussed on such a site, but is Amazon the best place to go and learn how to build a better web site? I don't think so. For instance, would Amazon teach you how to use the Google Keyword Lookup tool at https://adwords.google.com/select... ? or would it be the best place to learn how to use Facebook Connect in the best possible way?
- Robert Scoble
http://stackoverflow.com is very close to what I want, although it's aimed at developers only. I want a site that is a bit higher level than that. That shows a little code, but also gives lots of case studies and demos and SEO info and marketing info and eye track results and AB testing results, etc.
- Robert Scoble
ignitingtherevolution.com layout is broken with Safari, I get punched in the face with some google ads with some weird layout
- Jaanus Kase
I've worked with a couple of usability experts but these guys really make a difference when helping determine best-of-breed sites: http://www.bunnyfoot.com/ although they're mostly UK they just opened an office in Hong Kong
- Colin
Well, back in the day, it used to be Siegal, the guy that wrote "Creating Killer Websites". Veen teaches the "art and science of" but I don't know of any off hand that deal with aiming for business right now (including standards for SM use)
- Melanie Reed
Colin: yeah, I'm looking for sites that will help for free, not just pitch me on their paid services.
- Robert Scoble
Melanie: yeah, I remember Siegal's site. Veen is a good guy, I should interview him.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: You might give Adaptive Path a try. Veen used to work there and was one of the founding fathers: http://adaptivepath.com/ Of course the site screams high end not free. :(
- Melanie Reed
Melanie: Adaptive Path is doing the work I'm looking for, but they don't share their knowledge on their site that I can tell.
- Robert Scoble
http://www.marketingexperiments.com/, http://www.marketingsherpa.com -- neither deals exclusively with websites, but include the tons of case studies, demos, A/B, eye-tracking stuff for marketing best practices across email, web, social, mobile, etc.
- Dale Larson
http://www.alistapart.com/ does some of what I'm looking for, but isn't really focused on building bleeding edge business sites that join social networks, java script components, media, and cloud computing technologies together in a fun way that is aimed at building better business sites.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I use a bunch of different sites for building client websites, my list is here: http://itafroma.tumblr.com/post... Absolute must-reads for any web developer/designer are emphasized.
- Mark Trapp
Ahh ok - I guess I could point you in the direction of company sites that spend serious cash ensuring targetted users feel like they are looking at and finding exactly what they want? May not be ideal for you though, inevitably they are sites for mass audience and online retailers...
- Colin
Dale: those are ingredients in the meal, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Uhm, Joshua Porter? http://www.bokardo.com
- Federico F.
Robert: Yeah, thought it might be. No, they don't share. I'll keep on lookout in my cyber-travels and shoot anything to you if it crosses my path. blessings on your search.
- Melanie Reed
Colin: no, these things don't necessarily need to be very expensive. Building Facebook Connect isn't something that's very expensive to do, but is anyone out there showing how to do it right? Along with other things like talking about new cloud computing techniques like cloud bursting? (12seconds.tv uses that, if a file gets popular on its service they move it over to Amazon's web services and redirect all the traffic there).
- Robert Scoble
http://2advanced.com/ - they do a lot of rich media sites, but can engineer anything.
- David Gosse
The UI resources on Yahoo! are really good too. Maybe not all you're looking for, but it's a start :)
- Federico F.
Federico: bing! Yes, that's very close to what I'm looking for. Not quite in the form I was hoping to see, but it's the closest I've seen yet.
- Robert Scoble
This post came at an interesting time for me. I'm trying to build a website for my wife's museum that is a Non-Profit organization. I want to build a site that takes advantage of social media to get the word out about the museum. I also want to design a site that will help build a community online. Any suggestions? Build with straight HTML or use a CMS package like joomla? Their current site is http://amset.org
- Bryan Lee
web monkeys back and better than ever with a wiki at its heart and anyone can contribute http://www.webmonkey.com/ Also, um Google and Yahoo have done a great job with their product specific blogs and YUI. Google also has something called Google Doctype http://code.google.com/doctype... for web developers. It includes articles on web security, JavaScript DOM manipulation, CSS tips and...
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- mal
David: that site is ugly. I +hate+ all Flash sites. That's not the web I want.
- Robert Scoble
As I said Robert, they can engineer anything - look at their portfolio before you become a hater. Their site is not the way they design all client sites. Very surprised you had not heard of their portfolio of work.
- David Gosse
mal: more ingredients in the meal. Wow, I totally forgot about web monkey. This thread is EXACTLY why I like friendfeed. Where else on the web would I have learned about Bokardo and be reminded of web monkey?
- Robert Scoble
My company, 9, does a pretty good job of this. We're new but I have a high tech background with 9 years of user interface experience and know a lot of the UI tricks to keep users sticky to the site, etc. We reduce a lot of costs for clients because of our developer relationships. www.whatis9.com
- Patricia
Robert: Joshua Porter's book is great also. You should check it out.
- Federico F.
David: I'm sure of that, but to put that up as their calling card sends the wrong message about where the web is going and demonstrates the kind of stuff they probably want to build for their clients. This is how Las Vegas Casinos end up with unusable, but beautiful, web sites that have no human interaction.
- Robert Scoble
Patricia: whenever you put a URL onto the web you should ALWAYS include http:// so that it builds a link like this http://www.whatis9.com -- thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Yep, Mal, good jog! We used to use webmonkey all the time. I'm still using surveymonkey for some stuff.
- Melanie Reed
Well ... depends on scale but WP and Drupal come to mind. Great building blocks. The UI ... well, that's highly distributed and often conflicting in nature. Ion Interactive versus RAMP Digital versus Get Elastic versus Grok Dot Com etc. etc. etc. Plenty of flavors.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: exactly. Those are the building blocks of the modern site. What this tells me is that there's a need for information for business people on how to build a modern web site.
- Robert Scoble
I think SitePoint deserves some mention as a hybrid-free web design resource. They make their revenue off book sales but you can get enough free-stuff to satisfy. http://www.sitepoint.com/
- Melanie Reed
Robert: do you know http://nettuts.com ? They're articles cover some basic stuff, but some advanced things as well. Might want to check out they're site network too.
- Bruno
Robert. This is exactly what I am looking for as well. Great discussion!
- Bryan Lee
@Robert, thank you! My company also saw the need for how to build a modern web site. We don't just do that, but also help clients figure out what makes sense to them, so if they have community, it's the right format, etc. There's a definite need for it.
- Patricia
Bruno, no, didn't know that one. Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Patricia: I bet you are losing a ton of business because you don't demonstrate what a modern web site looks like. You should build a demonstration site for a fake business (or your own business) and then explain how your designers/engineers will help me build the same thing for my business.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert, the site for 9 is part of our branding strategy - it's sort of all tied into a specific asthetic that makes sense if you know our brand. Your site should absolutely tie into your brand and make sense to the look/feel you're trying to create. 9 is not a development shop or an internet company. It's a cross platform consulting and content production comany - our work varies from...
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- Patricia
What makes a best-of-breed business web site? Is it feeds? Widgets? Community? Or just compelling copy. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Peter Warnock
Peter: all the above, that's why I want to find a site that discusses all this stuff holistically.
- Robert Scoble
@Peter, relevancy - to its audience/user base, to their needs and how they interact, to the company and what it's vision is. The features are only important to how they're used, if they're used at all, etc.
- Patricia
@Robert, if you are interested in learning, I'd direct you over to ecommerce. During web 1.0, companies in that category conducted a ton of research to find what users do and how to keep them sticky to sites. Compelling stuff. If you notice all the top ecommerce sites are very similar. It's not by accident.
- Patricia
Patricia, Your concept, as Robert brings out, sounds VERY intriguing! But he's right. You could benefit from a gallery site that gives your user an idea of what to expect. Take them on a visual "tour" of the process for a few example sites and then sell them with your last comment to Robert.
- Melanie Reed
@Melanie, thank you! For 9, the corporate strategy and how we work doesn't really rely heavily on leads online. It's all offline, relationship based, recommendations, etc. When a prospective client comes in, we have a deck that shows our work, etc, but for us, the focus is different. I know it's an unusual approach, but that was the fun part. 9's just different.
- Patricia
@Patricia thanks for being so gracious. I kind of thought that's how you marketed. But maybe 9 will consider the online market more heavily in the future and that would be great! :)
- Melanie Reed
this tweet shows kind of shows the way site design is ideally moving.. sort of on the fly, loose pieces tightly joined... RT @timoreilly: RT @yishaym Want to change the world? learn Python http://is.gd/jv6d | interesting site/tech http://stimuluswatch.org/
- mal
@Patricia, kudos for being different, but I think you'll find through experience, that you only capture the low-hanging fruit this way. In my opinion, a good business web site, at minimum, delivers a powerful "elevator speech".
- Peter Warnock
@peter, i don't agree, but i do understand your point. none of our client leads come by way of the web, unless you count email. if the type of clients we're attracting are low hanging fruit, i'm sticking with the plan. :) i realize that it's hard to convince a tech crowd that business can be done this way, but this is kind of why we exist - because not all businesses can or should...
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- Patricia
@Peter not by any chance a Scot, are you? Looks like your icon is a familiar crest. :) Very similar to the McCleod crest
- Melanie Reed
@Scoble I am also a big fan of stackoverflow.com
- Varun Mahajan
Google has a blog that's a little of what I'm looking for here: http://googlesocialweb.blogspot.com/
- Robert Scoble
lots of unconnected bloggers are the best resource for consulting businesses on how to build cutting edge sites. businesses can easily find this information if they try.
- Alensa
Great question. Well worth a thorough discussion and thread! Mashing it up imho is a big part of it. And how do you keep it unbiased?
- Rob Schieber
Twitter Client War: Twhirl vs. TweetDeck - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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i still like tweetdeck better :)
- Rodney Rumford
I can't stand tweetdeck :)
- Nick
I'm sure Twhirl is fabulous and I really appreciate @Loic and his engaging method of development, but I just can't beat TweetDeck's multi-column layout. It's ideal for a 30" cinema display but equally at home running full screen on MBPro
- Conor Ogle
TweetDeck uses too much memory for my computer, so I use Twhirl
- Qbat
Neither, I still prefer Twitterific on a Mac. If I had to decide between these both: probably Twhirl, even though I hate their scrolling implementation.
- Holger Eilhard
I like them both but prefer tweetdeck for single account mgmt. Twirl works well for multiple account mgmt
- Tim FitzGerald
I go back and forth between the two. TweetDeck: love the multi-column group management, but hate the memory usage and inability to sync group lists across machines. Twhirl: I like the FriendFeed and Seesmic integration, but I miss the group list management offered by TweetDeck. To TweetDeck's credit, they are soliciting input on what issues to tackle next; group sync and memory issues were on the list.
- Brian Shoemaker
I prefer the Tweetdeck interface but am using Twhirl because I need to manage multiple accounts.
- Herb Hernandez
At home, Tweetdeck. What about when mobile though? I used tweetdeck on a UMPC at MBC09 (saves my mobile phone for other duties!) and will have a bunch of mobile PC devices at SXSW to do the same (i'm testing them) Seems to me that Tweetdeck + powerful browser on the go would be perfect for microbloggers.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
I prefer to use clients that extend beyond twitter.. Preferably Friendfeed and Facebook as well. feedalizr is good. Any other alternatives?
- Abhishek Kumar
from feedalizr
Twhirl feels clunky and it's UI is too complex. Twitterific is perfect for day to day personal use, but Tweetdeck is great for corp accounts.
- Giovanni Ghignone
I use TweetDeck primarily, but it needs Twhirl's lookup feature in the worst way. That one feature keeps me going back and forth. Oh yeah, and multiple accounts. Love Twhirl for that.
- Gimme Blu Frog!
neither of them, They just don't feel right to me. I developed my own which has what I need.
- Darren Stuart
I use Twhirl more, just got Tweetdeck a day ago, like the layout for management. I love Spaz though, sorry!
- Jay Cameron
I started as a big Twhirl fan, til the day it wasn't working. I desperately seek for an option and tried TweetDeck. It was too big in my screen, too annoying with its sound alerts, but then, ok: it got me! groups features became very handy and good to use Twitter for working tasks. I still think TweetDeck could benefit from some Twhirl features - specially after Seesmic acquisition, but can't see myself going back to it anymore.TweetDeck is my favorite one! =]
- May
iam sticking with twhirl for now...
- Stephan Linzner
@ninjamonk which tool did you develop?
- Abhishek Kumar
from feedalizr
i'm liking the new twhirl has some great features and looks like the tool for seesmic users for sure, tweetdeck would be my pick if i was following loads of people
- Adam Gersbach
@Abhishek Kumar I did crowdstatus.com and have built an AIR client based on it but its still not ready as I am in an arms race :p
- Darren Stuart
I use Thwirl 'cause they support Identi.ca, and I can use Identi.ca to post on twitter too. Otherwise i think TweetDeck is a better client for Twitter.
- Norbert Evenich
from twhirl
I use both. Twhirl allows both of my accounts open side-by-side and it's integration with Seesmic is VERY cool. Tweetdeck's layout has superior advantages - especially "sub-groups" and topics to follow.
- Stan Dubin
Twhirl
- Vishy
TweetDeck + real-time FriendFeed in a small browser window: best way to waste time on teh net.
- bnoise
I like Tweetdeck but recently added a second Twitter account so now using Twhirl. If Tweetdeck had multiple account functionality (and Friendfeed connection) I would switch back.
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
I'm using Friendfeed Realtime and Tweetdeck if I'm not on my Samsung NC10 Netbook.
- Marius Quadflieg
http://twtpoll.com/r/jaqtnw still, more people use Twitter from the web...
- Orli Yakuel
I love Twhirl, but it only lacks the groups of users feature of Tweetdeck. I love Tweetdeck, but it lacks the notifying popup for each twit of Twhirl.
- americanm
Tweetdeck on my personal laptop (usage times vary - not always on). Last night app wasn't working right!
- Susan Beebe
I prefer Tweetdeck. Don't ask me why, call it design or robustness but I like it better.
- Carlos Lorenzo
Some sort of hybrid of the two would be perfect, until then I use both.
- Iain Baker
I really agree with this :)
- Liviu Lica
I can't decide, I like Tweetdeck because its nice and big and love the muliple colums, but I like twhirl because I can pick up Friendfeed, Seesmic and TWitarmy.... hard to decide
- Kim Landwehr
I use tweetdeck because of the groups. I have a tab for my favorites and one for people in my country/language (Netherlands). I don't care much for other features like video or integration with other services. Ideally tweetdeck would have the possibility of one column with tabs and save groups and searches.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Robert, this goes back to your recent "real-time web" post: how do you gather together the outcomes of discussions on the various sites? Someone could post a great comment on the post at scobleizer.com, but it wouldn't show up on your FriendFeed unless you or someone else did an equivalent of a re-tweet. What's the preferred reply etiquette these days?
- Paul Robertson
Tweetdeck, for the groups.
- Chris Luckhardt
Twhirl for the simplicity and minimal space hogging.
- Candy Schwartz
twhirl, far better
- Richard A.
I had thwirl, but never really used it much. I did switch to tweetdeck a while ago (for the second time and have grown to like it a lot. However, I use mobile apps most (slandr/twitstat mobile).
- Arne Hulstein
Tweetdeck is lifesaver by allowing groups.
- Kenley Neufeld
I don't use any Twitter clients. I use Twhirl for Laconica
- LouCypher
While my first choice is still the Web, for TwitApps I am a Twhirl Girl.
- Martha
I would love to have all in real time browser windows. Think about FF meets socialthing - having friends not only from FF but also importing them from each service you have an account on.
- bnoise
twhirl will always rule for me until someone else allows me to do ff in the same client. Although Tweetdeck has some great features, the future of client apps is clearly in supporting multiple networks, which only twhirl does, so it's no contest.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
If TweetDeck handled multiple accounts, I'd probably switch back. I like grouping folks so I'm not forced to unfollow those who leash bouts of Twitterrhea ;)
- Carolyn
I switch between both depending on the mood of the day.. The one feature I am waiting on is the group feature in Twhirl.. then hard to judge..
- Bill Moore
from twhirl
TweetDeck :)
- Nicholas James
I love Twhirl. This may seem weird, but tried TweetDeck and it seemed too masculine for my tastes.
- Julie Bovee Hill
Tweetdeck hands down
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
I still just use the web interface, or Cellity Tweeter or one of the WAP/mobile web-based clients, if I'm Twittering on my phone.
- Tyson Key
TweetDeck. No doubt.I love groups and searches for monitoring things. Especially once I wrote backup/restore scripts so I could move settings between machines.
- Scott Kingery
Twhirl, because A) I don't have the money/extra hardware to donate to using tweetdeck full screen, and it annoys me to horizontally scroll and B) because I find the group function useless. I don't want to see every last tweet I just want trends, so groups just add more columns to watch. Only thing I liked about tweetdeck was twitscoop, great for watching for events.
- BCK
I rotate between Twhirl and the Firefox add-on, Friendbar.
- Doug
DestroyTwitter is a really nice program as well.. and fast...
- Jaap Willem
from twhirl
Twhirl does FriendFeed, laconica, and seesmic too. Support bit.ly + api for stats. winner hands down.
- Glenn Batuyong
Will have to try the new Twhirl, but if its anything like the old, then I will probably still prefer Tweetdeck's multi column interface
- Peter Efland
Until Tweetdeck supports multi account I won't even consider leaving Twhirl
- adolfo foronda
I just tried twhirl again and shut it off immediately and went back to tweetdeck. I like the groups in tweetdeck a lot. It allows me to follow a group more closely as it lowers the noise for that group.
- Shamir Katsu
Alert Thingy just made a new release too. TC wrote them up. From the post, "...AlertThingy has added support for six more services: Ping.fm, Basecamp, Huddle, TwitPic, TwitterSearch, and Yammer. That makes for a total of 13 services, which already included Digg, Facebook, Flickr, Jaiku, TinyURL, Tumblr, and Twitter."
- coldbrew
Here's the link: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- coldbrew
I use twhirl 4 multi-accounts and tweetdeck 4 main account. I also use 3 monitors running on the same computer & tweetdeck dedicated to one.
- Moses Kpetigo
I like twhirl because it supports identi.ca as well as FriendFeed. If TweetDeck supported FriendFeed, I'd make the switch. Oh, multiple accounts - Twhirl does that, TweetDeck is lacking
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
Mind share on Twitter for both apps http://www.trendrr.com/a... Tweetdeck vs. Twhirl (Number of Matching Twitter Posts per Day)
- mediaeater
tweetdeck is broken for me right now... not sure why. Only displays @replies and searches; NO feed and no DMs (not complaining there!)
- Susan Beebe
I use both
- andy brudtkuhl
twhirl. The Tweetdeck interface is too imposing.
- Brendan Cooper
from twhirl
sounds like the stupidest war ever
- sean percival
They're both unfree. Don't use either of them. Use a free one. If there is no free one, then don't use one till there is.
- Gregg H.
Gregg: what do you mean? I haven't paid for either one.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed- both are free. Who is paying? I think twhirl is great for general use and multiple services (as you pointed out), Tweetdeck is good for those that really, really want (or need) to organize their stream. The interface is daunting however and I found Tweetdeck was slow to update. Now if you are talking iApps- Twitterfon FTW! I also love the "get more people to talk about it!" line- Scoble continues to tell it like it is.
- Alyx
from twhirl
Robert: Free, as in freedom. But, I suppose if you're using a completely user subjugating OS that has no respect for your freedom like Mac or Windows, then one more little freedom killing app like this won't matter anyway.
- Gregg H.
Tweetdeck it is for me ... sadly it just got borked and refused to work on my Ubuntu 8.10 desktop
- Murali
TweetDeck is my choice as well.
- Darrell Madore
falling in love with Alert Thingy... similar than Tweetdeck and more usable
- Luca Filigheddu
Robert - interesting post but it doesn't sound like a war to me. Aren't both clients offering solutions to different problems?
- Iain Dodsworth
Now, if AlertThingy would work on my machine, I'd give that a try, but unfortunately, it doesn't populate the window with posts on my end. :(
- Alexander Kucera
I am still trying to figure out which one I like best, but for the most part I think twhirl is best for sending and TweekDeck is best for viewing.
- Chris Patterson
I use them both but mostly use Tweetdeck. It would be great to have better picture submission with Tweetdeck and a reduced memory footprint as I have to shut it down regularly as it becomes sluggish.
- Kirti Vashee
Just stumbled upon this post and want to add, that I found a way to sync TweetDeck groups betweed different machines using Dropbox and junctions. Just put the Appdata Directory of TweetDeck into Dropbox as a junction and on the other machine make a junction from the Dropbox directory into the Appdata directory. Quite geeky I know but that's how I keep different apps' settings in sync and it works well :)
- Dennis R.
Amazon Beats eBay Traffic in December - http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin...
Gökmen Karasu, Helen Sventitsky, Susan Beebe and 33 other people liked this
Not good trends for eBay. But this has been building up for a year. Sellers (my ex was an eBay Power Seller) are really pissed at eBay and are leaving for Amazon and other places in droves. Sellers DRIVE marketplaces. eBay really screwed up here by making them mad and not listening to them.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
I read a book about Ebay a few years ago and in it they admitted 'any time we don't listen to our users, especially the sellers' Ebay ended up getting screwed. But yet they continue to do the same thing over and over again.
- Andrew Leyden
Go figure. John McCain supporter.
- ursi
I think part of this is the shrinking amount of time we all have to get things done. Not only has eBay pissed off sellers but the whole process of bidding is time consuming. Time is perhaps our most protected resources, so ... 2 days of bid watching or buying it for an extra $2 in 10 minutes ... I think more are picking the latter.
- AJ Kohn
Another reason for Amazon's success is their Prime program. After I signed up, I always checked Amazon first for purchases. I did 85% of my Christmas shopping on there.
- Dave Gambrill
Shipping costs on Ebay hindered my addiction to use even their 'buy-it-now' - Use Amazon much more these days.
- Janet
I almost always look to Amazon first for products
- Ian May
Another factor could be eBay now forcing use of Paypal. I haven't heard any complaints about Amazon's payment system.
- Jared B. Luther
I have never had any issues with Paypal myself. I have had an account for a number of years, and use their debit card too, getting 1.5% back on everything I buy. It adds up to a few hundred in a year. My experience with eBay customer service, on the other hand, is that I found them to be totally incompetent bungling useless idiots, taking 8 months to rectify an overcharge, with me threatening to write to the D.A eventually, and sending letters to top management.
- Ian May
Based on a few recent experiences on both sites I part of the reason we are seeing eBay losing traffic has to do with the closing of the pricing gap between the two sites. Amazon used to be the more expensive but reliable service. Lately, however Amazon's prices have been comparable to eBay's. Partly because some of the big retailers have slashed their prices. The smaller sellers on eBay now are unable to compete on price. Amazon prime also helps
- Bindu Reddy
Suck it eBay!
- Alfredo
Interesting... but not surprising
- Susan Beebe
IBM Finally Admits: Yes, We're Laying People Off (IBM) - http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009...
Daniel Rowley, Arif Widianto, Constantine and 5 other people liked this
The news headline sounds like a trend you have to follow to be 'in' again.
- Michael Jung
Obama To Launch Recovery.gov (EXTREME transparency?) http://mashable.com/2009...
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He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't
- ursi
I think he's less damed if he does, than if he dosen't.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto, I agree with you but you know how people are ...always easy to be negative. Can't believe the crap I've heard at work from Republicans this week who still think he's a Muslim hellbent on getting us all killed in another terrorist attack. Of course, he will never win the haters over. Change has to start with them
- ursi
Epicenter of the magnitude 5.7 earthquake 162 miles southwest of Anchorage, Alaska on Saturday, January 24, 2009 at 10:09:50 AM (PST) - http://maps.google.com/maps...
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See the USGS site at http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcente... for details.
- DeWitt Clinton
Is Sarah ok?
- Brian Sullivan
oooo lots of seismic activity this weekend. Which fault line was this on?
- EricaJoy
@Erica - several fault lines, I believe. But I was thinking the same thing.
- DeWitt Clinton
Sarah's fault ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
First I heard of this. I really have to listen to the radio...
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Earthquakes are very common in the Alaskan region, a very seismically active area. There are dozens of them each day in the 2.5 - 3.5 range and hundreds of smaller ones.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Here's a map showing the Alaskan earthquakes in the past week. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcente...
- Jeff P. Henderson
If you want to be notified of world wide earthquakes larger than 2.5, add this link to your RSS feed. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcente...
- Jeff P. Henderson
@Jeff I know that all too well after living in Alaska for 12 years. :)
- EricaJoy
In other news, Russia has developed an insidious strategy for keeping the Eye of Wa...--I wanna say Wakoopa, but I know that's not it...brb, going to Google--silla off their distant shores.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Wasilla
- Jeff P. Henderson
20 things about friendfeed http://m.kyte.tv/ch...
Kisha, Well Conditioned, Keith - @tsudo, K.D. and 123 other people liked this
Told you he'd be posting before the hors d'oeuvres were served...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
hor d'oeuvres? where?
- Michael VanDervort
I'm watching your video right now
- sofarsoShawn
Robert, I am unable to watch your video (never been) in kite.tv with GNU/Linux and Flash 10. Although I have no problems in any other video platform.
- Ricardo Galli
It is the first service to bring all our content into one place
- paul mooney
Watching your video. Definitely learning a lot. Much to take in.
- Marty McPadden
This is a great tuturial Robert, I am learning about all kinds of features I never knew about. Too bad Friendfeed doesn't have a video/visual tutorial like this for all the newcomers (albeit more concise for them).
- Brian
Yes - and screencasted, not video of screen.
- Hal
Have they ever come up with a good way to sync my twitter follows as imaginary friends without having to add each individually?
- Hal
Was it just blurry for me or is it blurry for everyone? I think I could have learned way more from it if I could see what you were was doing. Looked like you were doing some cool stuff.
- MarkCarras
awesome job Robert - watching it right now. It's great you're not over the top in describing it's usefulness...rather a sensible overview of it's benefits.
- Zee.
That's great info, Robert. Thank you. Lots of stuff I didn't know.
- Drew
Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Love it Robert, thanks, I learned a lot.
- Ginger Kenney
Great vid. Really showed off some awesome capabilities.
- Joe Brinkman
Robert: Either I'm losing my mind or you're double-clicking on links.
- Chris Luckhardt
Chris: my computer is messed up. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I love FF and have been using it for a few months (though not exclusively), but I still picked up a few powerful tips that I didn't know or understand before. Thanks, Robert!
- Helen Hoefele
Robert did you make this video for Arrington? I hope so, that way he'll start participating more...same goes for Guy Kawasaki too. :)
- Susan Beebe
Nah, just trying to explain the features.
- Robert Scoble
This friendfeed thing confuses me to no end. Maybe I'm just dense, but I've never been able to figure out how to organize things here so that the cool stuff perks to the top, then there's keeping track of things I like or whatever. I hope your vid is damn good cuz it's downloading now over a dialup line. yup, they still haven't fixed my highspeed yet. :-) Edited to put a smiley after that last statement, hehe.
- Eddy Cole
It's a really good introduction to both basic and advanced FriendFeed use. Perhaps more interestingly, helps explain how Robert manages his massive inbound data flow.
- Michael Krigsman
Ross the Friendfeed intern did some tutorials a while back, but FF sure failed to keep up with creating new ones as the feature set (and interface) evolved. Ross's videos here: http://www.vimeo.com/rossmil...
- Mitch
I think that if I knew that I could see all of my twitter activity from within friendfeed, then I would use it in leui of a twitter client - but I don't feel like taking the time to add imaginary friends.
- Hal
What we really need is a "Friendfeed Tour" room which is added by default to ever single new account. It could be moderated by the FF crew and include links to a whole bunch of goodies for new friendfeeders.
- Mitch
Next installment: 20 ways to being a bigger FriendFeed monster than Robert Scoble? =)
- deepikaur
Comprehensive. Needs a screencast treatment instead of pointing vid cam at the screen.
- Tom Landini
This should go on the ff homepage
- Michael Fidler
2009 is the year I start really drinking the FF Koolaid. I started a week early, technically, but then the good resolutions are the ones worth getting ahead of right away. This video was helpful for understanding how to make the most of the service, Robert. I'll be sharing it with others, especially if I slip into the social media rabbit hole that this service can be for many users. As always, thank you for sharing your experience.
- Alex Howard
I find that friendfeed has a lot of passive users. Their activity comes from the aggregation of other media, not from any attention on friendfeed itself. Robert is very active on FF and so gets a lot of immediate conversation going, but many have it set on auto-pilot. I find this is less the case with twitter. Perhaps it will change.
- Marcel LeBrun
Robert, I love the down to earth presentation on this. Very approachable method of video, and informative.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I've been waiting for this video. Good stuff.
- Andrew
Thanks for this - its great to have a practical 'how to' guide.
- Graham Hills
Nice! Didn't really get Friendfeed until now. It would be phenomenal if I could manage and write to everyone of my aggregations via friendfeed. Hate to have 3+ Backends for my Blogs etc
- Sebastian
Robert, I've been using FriendFeed for a while now. Thanks! This was superb.
- Pilgrim Five
"Hide" feature!? I have no "Hide" link under my entries - how did you get one of those?! I want one! I have "Comment", "Like" and "More".
- Isha (Marysia)
Thanks for posting. I never knew that Friendfeed could be so useful. I didn't even know there was a like feature till you pointed it out. I just thought it was another one of those lifestreaming aggregators.
- Thao Ly
Marysia: "Hide" is only available on entries if you are in the home screen. So click on "Home" and now you should see Hide.
- Robert Scoble
"Hide" is available in any list at the top level. For instance, if I create a list called "Tech Bloggers" and add six people to it, "Hide" is visible if I click the Tech Bloggers list on the left side. If I open the reveal triangle and click on one individual's ID, then "Hide" is not available.
- Will King
Thankfully this was a tutorial. I still expect Robert to use a computer nearly as fast as Commander Data.
- Kevykev
Great video Robert. Really enjoyed checking out all the features on FriendFeed. You seem to have it set up really well. I wondered why you didn't use a screencast recording program so we could watch what you were doing on your screen a bit more easily. I don't want that to sound like a criticism though because I really appreciate the effort you went to, recording the vid.
- Paul Richards
I'm bumping this post, because this video is so good. Just sent it to a friend who just signed up to help explain the experience along with the FFundercats Episode 25 podcast. These are great resources. http://www.kyte.tv/scoblei...
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Demonstrating real-time web with @loic to largest newspaper/media brand LeFigaro in France. Say hi!
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You're in France?! LUCKY. *edit: Where are my manners, Hello!
- Mona Nomura
hi
- Richard A.
Bonjour...
- Zee.
Hi - welcome to the real-time web...
- Kevin Tunis
Yo!
- Gerardo Curiel
hello from Canada
- Ryan Lejbak
oui oui
- Josh Haley
*waves*
- BCK
What What!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
bonjour
- Christopher Galtenberg
Hello Robert. Had a great conversation with John Cleese via Seesmic. Real time because anything less isn't lifespeed.
- michael sean wright
Hi... in real time...
- Murray Williams
No, no, they are visiting startups in San Francisco.
- Robert Scoble
cheers from Chile.
- robertocastro
Robert, how are you displaying this to them? Tweetdeck and FF realtime running side by side?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Bonjour a vous, bonne demo :-)
- Bertrand Doux
What Zee. said.
- AJ Kohn
Hi Le Figaro from Edmonton Alberta. Left the same on Robert's twitter. Did you receive two from me?
- Joseph Thornley
Hi, Scoble, Loic & Le Figaro editors. G'day from Cambridge, MA.
- Alex Howard
Salut! From NS on the East Coast of Canada...
- Jeff Bishop
Bonjour!
- ShelleyRae O'Connor
Welcome to the world of Scoble. May God have mercy on your soul.
- Dave Ferrick
Bonjour at tous de la "web vrai temps!" Laissez rouller les bon temps!
- John Craft
Hello France!
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Good night from (suddenly freezing) Shanghai, Scoble.
- sage brennan
Hei
- Baard @ Pixum
hey y'all - greetings from the New South of the U.S. of A. It's a new era!
- Steve Knight
bonjour! saw this via: http://www.dffrnt.com/ffmulti...
- vijay
Howdy!
- Anton
Dear France: We apologize for Mr. Bush. Please enjoy our upgraded Presidential offering, Barack Obama. We believe he will provide a more superior user experience in every way. Thank you. America.
- Kevin Pedraja
Well played sir... well played
- Murray Williams
This just happened.
- Andrew Smith
That just happened! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Bonjour a vous.
- Daniel Rowley
hello :-)
- Sarah Peterman
Bonjour de la part de Emeryville!
- Jeff Fohl
Bonjour! Et voila, Le joues sont faites!
- Daniele Beta
Grüezi from Switzerland
- Rico
Whuttup, France.
- Steven Perez
Plug... Tell @loic to demo http://spy.appspot.com again like he did as Seesmic the other day!
- Ben Hedrington
hello France!
- Thomas Hawk
yo france whats up?
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
To people who don't like high flow twitter accounts, sorry, you won't like me. I'm following 20,000 in TweetDeck and I'm going to talk back.
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that's for sure
- Colin Clark
And thus the reason I don't follow Robert on Twitter... Last thing I want to see is half of 20,000 conversations.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yeeeeea! Let's the lottery begin :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
do you have a life outside twitter...?
- Joe Buhler
Tina, but you won't see them unless you are following the people Robert replies to.
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Just turned my full twitter stream on in IM. went away for 20 minutes to have a phone conversation; came back to 500 messages! still, i enjoy reading the full stream when I have time to do it. it'll get filtered again on Wednesday, I'm sure.
- Karoli
That assumes every reply starts with @username which isn't always the case
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
He does have a tendency to retweet ;) but that's not that much noise.
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
I prefer to follow Robert on FF - in fact I prefer to follow most ppl on FF. Those I follow on Twitter are usually those who aren't on FF.
- WorldofHiglet
Sasha, you can set up an RSS feed of a Scobleizer search on Twitter as an imaginary friend on Friend Feed - that will give you both sides of the conversation.
- Matthew DeVries
Sasha, I would recommend putting that friend in it's own list, and not part of your home feed.
- Matthew DeVries
BTW, Happy birthday. I can't think of a better day for someone to do what they love. Enjoy!
- Michael Fidler
Oh, I'm perfectly fine in TweetDeck ;) And I have no probs with that. On frf - I put everything into one feed - too lazy to have to click one more time ;)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
I can't figure out how to make a specific search as a group on Tweetdeck, is it a new version?
- Matthew DeVries
sweet, sorted that out, it's a good night now
- Matthew DeVries
*Hide all Scobleizer tweets unless they have likes or comments*
- Mitch
Mitch: works for me. If you have time, all the hidden tweets are at the bottom of my screen. Personally I don't worry about a ton of tweets. friendfeed hides most of them anyway, and makes you already click on them to see more.
- Robert Scoble
I follow as many people as I think will offer me good info. I may only be able to read it a few hours a day because of my paying gig, but when I do it keeps things interesting. Too much is never enough! :D
- MarkCarras
I get the same uneasy feeling of seeing "47 more" on Friendfeed as I do seeing "1000+" in Google Reader, so I just choose to hide all the heavy twitter users (and also unread counts in Reader).
- Mitch
They'll get over it.
- Bwana ☠
Robert, Have you written a post on different Twitter tools, e.g. TweetDeck? Compare real-time stream vs FriendF thread feature.
- Martin Lindeskog
Martin: I would be VERY interested in an article on that. Someone should do it.
- MarkCarras
Agreed. Which of his 20,000 doesn't deserve a reply? Enough said!
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Hey, just curious - do you know what your talk-back rate is? That is, your percentage of @ replies you respond to? I admire your prolific communication, but don't see how you can possibly talk back to all. Maybe some aren't saying things you find worth covering?
- John "Boz" Handy Bosma
John on friendfeed it is close to 100%. on Twitter? Probably 30% but only because people get pissed about my noise there (but not here).
- Robert Scoble
Someone once tried to insult me by saying "you tweet like @scobleizer does - all noisy!" and my reply was "no, I tweet twice as much as he does daily about considerably less of interest - because I answer all of the stupid folks who @ me too rather than just the interesting ones - but I take it as a compliment when you say that, as he's the one that taught me the value of listening on Twitter... so cool!" I don't think that was the response he expected. Ah well. :)
- Lucretia Pruitt
Scoble. You use Tweetdeck. Trying to make the switch, but not being able to read the tweet in the popup notification like I can in Twhirl is a big thing. Thoughts?
- alexander horre
Don't worry. I love high flow twitter accounts. It's what keeps me interested in the Internet
- Bryce Roney
Forget Claire Bear, Spiderman, or Superman, want to change someone's world? Be a bone marrow donor. I registered, did you?
Kevin LaHaise liked this
This Web project calculator is making the rounds: http://estimator.astuteo.com/ But, it's just too rudimentary. I want to make a better one.
Kevin LaHaise liked this
Two Monitors Increase Productivity by 44 Percent http://truemors.nowpublic.com/...
Nazer, Glenn Batuyong, Ozkan Altuner and 2 other people liked this
Does anyone have a good "FriendFeed for Dummies" resource to point to? I have someone asking me on Twitter. If there are enough suggestions, I'll just point them to this link here.
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I know Zee was working on an intro
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
from IM
+1 Marshall: http://thenextweb.com/2008...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
http://friendfeed.com/about... is probably the most useful resource.
- Nicholas James
AJ Kohn recenty wrote an article, though I maintain it would be more helpful to someone who has dabbled on the site. http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/friendf...
- Admiral Anika
Its a bit much to take in at first. I had trouble seeing the benefits. I had bookmarked some great articles. I will see if I can dig them up for you.
- Sloan Bowman
I know of Robert Scoble's video on this: http://www.kyte.tv/ch...
- Sarah Perez
Louis Gray had a bunch of tips on Fridays during the summer. Maybe he can get a list together.
- Rob Diana
The Next Web wrote the Unofficial Guide to FriendFeed Part 1: http://thenextweb.com/2008... and Part 2: http://thenextweb.com/2008...
- Sarah Perez
Here's a Pros and Cons of FriendFeed list: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- B2B Specialist
I really hope Lee LeFever is working on a Common Craft video on Friendfeed. Are you out there, Lee?
- Laura Norvig
@Laura: a Common Craft video would rule!
- Sarah Perez
I fourth that motion - Common Craft on FF!
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
from IM
Begs the question: "Is Common Craft ON FF?"
- B2B Specialist
From Mashable – oldie but very good http://bit.ly/cP5b
- Robert Banghart
Wow, great resources! I sent him straight here to this direct link.
- Sarah Perez
5 Interesting Ways to Use Friendfeed: http://www.sheysmith.com/2008...
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Try this link "Getting started with Friendfeed" - http://bit.ly/mONJ - there's a second part too - "Friendfeed Tips" http://bit.ly/OzsQ
- SteveH
8 Predictions for Enterprise Web 2.0 in 2009 | Enterprise Web 2.0 | ZDNet.com - http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcl...
Kevin LaHaise, Michael Krigsman and Jan Horna liked this
I get out my crystal ball for 2009 and take a look. Lots of SOA, 2.0, open business models, mobile, cloud computing and more in your future.
- Dion Hinchcliffe
Great post -- very clear and well presented, as always.
- Michael Krigsman
Report: Community Platforms Market Led by Jive Software and Telligent - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Bill Romanos, Kevin LaHaise and Clay Newton liked this
by Richard: "Forrester released a report today about the 'community platforms' market. They evaluated nine vendors, concluding that Jive Software and Telligent Systems "lead the pack because of their strong administrative and platform features." KickApps and Pluck were also commended, for enabling large Web sites to scale quickly with social features. Awareness, Lithium Technologies, and Mzinga were other products that Forrester liked, for enabling companies to build branded communities. We summarize the report below and highlight our own past coverage of Jive Software and Telligent."
- Frederic
from Bookmarklet
is it me or is this missing a lot of options? There is at least a dozen more not counting the mishmashed offerings of the big software guys, and not counting the open source options. Must go through the ones I bookmarked for a job last year see if they really all died.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Thanks to @guykawasaki for linking to Ten Tech Predictions for 2009. Nice retweet army. Now getting Dugg. http://digg.com/mods...
Rob Brammeld, Josh Haley, Jeremy Campbell and 9 other people liked this
Dugg
- Hutch Carpenter
Dugg
- Susan Beebe
dugg!
- Sarah Perez
Dugg :]
- Gadiel Rivera
Just dugg it, for 56 so far. Good job Louis.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Lets see how much it take for it to be on the first page.
- Gadiel Rivera
I wish I could keep track of all of the Digg haters who end up digging this up.
- Josh Haley
Why hasn't anyone put on their list that Android will start been used has a PC OS..or is it that obvious that no one even bothers to call it a prediction?
- Gadiel Rivera
The story of 2009? Enterprise disruption? - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
Marek Blazek, Rob Brammeld, Kevin LaHaise and 15 other people liked this
Who said enterprise services are boring? This is Google vs. Microsoft and you have a front-row seat.
- Robert Scoble
excellent find! this does look fantastic, thinking the possibilities ..
- berkay
Robert, this is a very interesting find. For me, goose-bump stuff. I see it more as democratizing data analysis, empowering the little guy. Thank you for this.
- Dominic Jones
I agree, enterprise tech is not boring. Anyone who works in the space knows that there is plenty of room for improvement. IT pros, demand excitement from your tech!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Oh, just finished the video, excellent interview.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Yeah. There really is tech inside large companies that's stagnated and carries a burden of several development years and obsolete features. It will be interesting to see how e.g. http://www.thingamy.com changes the Enterprise field.
- Tomi Itkonen
Do journalists and editors trade off editorial choices to get search engine visibility? http://www.bjr.org.uk/data...
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Online editors + writers maybe, but I don't think I know any magazine writers who are writing for keyword density, etc...
- Scott Lockhart
Haven't read the article yet, so I'll just respond to the question: A major thing to keep in mind when thinking about SEO and journalism is that most of the rules of SEO are also rules of good journalism writing. If your story is about Microsoft, you should use the word "Microsoft" in the headline. That's good SEO, but it's also good journalism.
- Mitch Wagner
Publications don't write their articles with search engine visibility top of mind. However, online journalism today is all about the traffic, racking up the page views. And, to do that, you need search engine visibility. So, indirectly, yes, I guess we make editorial choices informed by search engine visibility.
- Mitch Wagner
In the end, it's all about achieving the maximum usefulness for the maximum number of readers. Do that, and traffic and search engine visibility will follow.
- Mitch Wagner
Yes, and it's logical, but kind of sad..
- Franco Piccolo
What I Learned This Year - http://gigaom.com/2008...
Nicholas James, Joel Webber, Marten and 13 other people liked this
Om, thanks for being such an important part of my life. Here's hoping to more lessons learned in 2009!
- Robert Scoble
Excellent post. Om, I don't know you and we've never spoken, but based on your list, I hope we'll have the chance to connect. Very healthy stuff, physically and on all levels.
- Michael Krigsman
Thanks Robert appreciate the kind words.
- Om Malik
Michael we have connected now. Hope sometime in person.
- Om Malik
Great post, thanks
- Svein Håvard Djupvik
Om: very nice, will look forward to it.
- Michael Krigsman
Washington Is Killing Silicon Valley - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
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"The new laws and regulations have neither prevented frauds nor instituted fairness. But they have managed to kill the creation of new public companies in the U.S., cripple the venture capital business, and damage entrepreneurship. According to the National Venture Capital Association, in all of 2008 there have been just six companies that have gone public. Compare that with 269 IPOs in 1999, 272 in 1996, and 365 in 1986."
- Atul Arora
from Bookmarklet
I dunno if I buy this even on basic facts. Ie. For 1999, IPO Monitor counted 492 IPOs rather than 269 (http://www.ipomonitor.com/reviews...). Maybe they mean VC backed IPOs? Even then, I'm always skeptical of an advocacy group complaining that their regulations are too strict.
- David Wynn
from fftogo
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog... has a good discussion on what does regulation really mean and how companies and advocacy groups distort the meaning.
- Atul Arora
More Companies Cutting Labor Costs, but Not the Labor - NYTimes.com (imagine a 4 day workweek) - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
Susan Beebe and Kevin LaHaise liked this
Blogs feel so mainstream now (newspapers and companies have them), Twitter is starting to mainstream, more brands are moving in. Friendfeed, for the most part is still pure, virgin, and un-colonized.
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Certain the case, Jeremiah. I think a question to be asked is are these technologies and communities designed to go mainstream, or are the early-adopters having to move each time their 'patch' is invaded by The Guardian, NYT or CocaCola?
- Matt Harwood
The barriers to entry on Friendfeed are far greater than the other tools. Twitter is easy to use --blogs require time.
- Jeremiah Owyang
the beauty of blogs and twitter is they support mainstream usage as well as niche usage, I would be very wary of statements that claim they have 'gone mainstream' because the statement is inaccurate, the small groups of people who have coalesced around particular topics are still there. Don't let mainstream usage of social media obscure where the real value is getting created.
- karl
FriendFeed is like Grad School compared to High School twitter and Jr. High School Facebook
- Susan Beebe
I mapped out my social data graph and described the 3 levels of "geek" usage as well as data redundancy use case for having FF, Twitter and FB serve as my data backbone: http://genechuang.blogspot.com/2008...
- Gene Chuang
Jeremiah - I've generated a whole new FF thread of conversation re my Grad School comment above... http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Susan Beebe
A new breed of Twitter apps - http://joshdilworth.com/post...
Kevin LaHaise, Tommy Williams and Robert Scoble liked this
15 minutes of fame gone over one bloggers spat - http://techwag.com/index...
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unlike this :(
- Mike Fruchter
Why? Curious - should I pull it?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Leaving a comment on the blog very shortly. Nah no reason to pull it.
- Mike Fruchter
Ok, but still curious - personally I find this absolutely fascinating - well it suits my education and degrees which are in org-behavior and psychology.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dan- I can't tell who you are from a cursory glance at your blog. I've probably visited ten times and still haven't figured it out. The fact that you've managed to make powerful enemies despite this relative anonymity surprises me.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@daniel, is that good or bad?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
It depends on your goals I guess. I certainly hope that people who read me online will remember my name and a positive professional connotation. You might have different goals. I found a post of yours from a few days ago re: the DadOMatic issue and I can't imagine who you might have angered with that. Hopefully I can get a secret explanation from someone.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I don't think I angered anyone with that one. These things blow over pretty quickly, the cool part is that this is going to make an awesome case study in social networking and how influence works. Personally I am pretty jazzed, a nice anonymous case study - pull names and dates. Should be interesting.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I commented on your blog Dan, essentially I feel the same way as Daniel. I would point you to another example of Google Tutor.. the guy behind that site, Craig, has spent a lot of time building up his personal "The Tutor" on the site, specifically for SEO and marketing reasons. Personally, I think he goes too far but hey he lets me write there so who am I to complain :)
- Phil G
This is totally cool - maybe it is time to self brand? Hadn't thought out it personally, making my name a brand, but it makes sense since I blog under my own name dozens of other places, techwag is not anything special.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Mike - dan's rule number 3 - never accept defeat. :-) LOL!
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Phil - you had a great idea, I acted on it, let me introduce myself. Thanks much - good compelling argument, well made. Everyone give Phil thumbs up and go grab his feed.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Hi Dan Morrill (http://www.linkedin.com/pub...), nice to meet you!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I don't think there is a cause and effect here. The spat would typically lead to more traffic, not less, and your posts are great.
- Louis Gray
I don't know anything about what happened yesterday, but I found your post extremely fascinating. I think even seasoned on-line media experts are getting caught somewhat unaware in this new, exponentially amplified dynamic and rarified atmosphere. Cause and effect are not the same as they used to be. Thank for the interesting insight.
- Martha
Yay Dan! Nice meeting you!
- Phil G
Dan, I have no idea what this is about, but it sounds like you've experienced the power that A-listers have. I've seen it myself, but it's not a bad thing. It is truly awesome to experience first hand. Shortly after I started blogging, I got into a spat with Scoble. I had no idea that I was going to experience something that would change my views of social media. It was an eye-opener for me. And to this day, I'm thankful for having that experience. Sounds like you're there, too.
- Dominic Jones
And just to be clear, I think Robert was trying to help me experience it. I like him a lot for doing that.
- Dominic Jones
I was the cause of this post, and answer it over in the comments. I think this is bull. Dan, I haven't black listed you and my followers don't listen to me anyway, even if I had (there are plenty who would like something just to spite me if I did go on a jihad on you). Why haven't you gotten any likes? There's at least one other reason that you didn't consider in your post.
- Robert Scoble
This all moves way too quickly for anyone to hold a grudge for long. :) Did you see Duncan Riley linked to TechCrunch today? Things flare up, people disagree very publicly but, at the end of the day, everyone gets back to business.
- Shawn Farner
Wow. I had no idea it was Robert. Don't sweat it. But glad you'll learn from it.
- Dominic Jones
from twhirl
Robert is right in his comment on your blog. And I honestly don't believe he'd do anything to hurt your blog or bad mouth you. If it's any consolation, you'll probably never see that much traffic again. ;)
- Dominic Jones
from twhirl
I learned tons, not worried about it, again as stated this is more of an academic issue for me, and highly interesting from the academic view point (This is what I get for being a teacher).
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Reading RRW: Entrepreneurs We Will Happily Respect Your Embargoes - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... - smart, reasoned and why I respect RWW
Nicholas James, Kevin LaHaise, Wendy and Robert Scoble liked this
Aw, did I hurt your little ego? - http://www.winextra.com/index...
Mike Fruchter, Eric @ CSTechcast.com, Brian Roy and 3 other people liked this
If I could double like this.... I would.
- Brian Roy
I'm in the dark. Who did it?
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
what is with Friendfeed? 49 comments on my blogpost y'day about IZEA, dozens of tweets, not a single comment in Friendfeed? Sheesh.
Mark Krynsky, Kevin LaHaise, Igor Poltavskiy and 13 other people liked this
Re: lack of FriendFeed comments. Happens to TechCrunch posts too, which get many blog cmts. Key on FF = engagement.
- Hutch Carpenter
1) The whole "Chris Brogan got a gift card" story splintered in about five thousand different directions across the blogosphere and FriendFeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
2) You have 15 likes all time and most of your 300 comments appear to be streamed in from external sites (Del.icio.us). Your readership probably isn't used to interacting with you on Friendfeed in any meaningful way. A quick scan of the posts's comment's thread (http://www.stoweboyd.com/message...) shows several names I recognize from FF and yet they're commenting on the blog directly. That tells me that they probably read you from a traditional RSS reader...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
... or even from links in other blogs and so they clicked through directly to your site to participate in the discussion rather than start a "not likely to take off" discussion on FriendFeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Usually the concern is the other way. Just talk to Allen Stern about where the comments "should" be.
- Louis Gray
Yup Louis - that's true. And Stowe has ads on his blog.
- Hutch Carpenter
If all you do is live on Twitter and don't really participate on friendfeed why are you surprised that you don't get much action on friendfeed?
- Alex Scoble
you get comments? (blog or otherwise!) where can I get this mythical thing from?! :P
- alphaxion
It was late to the party on FriendFeed --we had already discussed the item and moved on.
- Robert Scoble
Robert and Hutch communicated what I wanted to say but you did it with far fewer words. Thanks both of you.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Maybe 1% of my posts here or Twitter garner any sort of feedback/like. I'm not crying. Engaging in social media conversations doesn't guarantee anything-- it just opens the door for interaction.
- Glenn Batuyong
I wouldn't worry about it. I get no traction from FF either and I participate on the site.
- Admiral Anika
Anika, if you install the MediaRSS plugin for WordPress (http://wordpress.org/extend...) I promise your FF traction will go up, and not just from me Liking more.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, I'm so lost with that plugin, it's not even funny. I posted it on another blog for a different FF account (the one where I actually write "tech" type posts) and it does nothing. :(
- Admiral Anika
Well crap. It's *supposed* to work right out of the box, at least as of last week. When was the last time you tried it?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
So, what did you have to say about IZEA?
- Michael VanDervort
Didn't you let know on numerous occasions how little you care about Friendfeed?
- lelapin
Seems like the consensus on Friendfeed is: what is with Stowe Boyd?
- Alan Le
Thanks Daniel. I'll see what I can do with it. I just reinstalled it and activated it and now it's not even showing up in my settings.
- Admiral Anika
I think it's funny that Stowe hasn't shown up here to participate.
- Robert Scoble
For maximum humor value let's hope he'll read these comments, not reply, and then blog about them a few days later.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
if we get 49 comments in this thread let's tweet it back to him.
- Laura Norvig
@Laura (and a couple of others): I remember viewing a video of Stowe Boyd where he basically said he had given up explaining the interest of using Twitter and, instead, was merely asking people to give it a try. This applies here too I guess: Stowe does not get the interest of FriendFeed, why not just leaving it at that?
- lelapin
I was caught up in the stream of comments about the IZEA post at my blog and Twitter. I am still surprised the relative non-overlap. Do most of you NOT participate much in twitter anymore?
- Stowe Boyd
Well, I tweeted your post Stowe (http://friendfeed.com/e...). Which I saw in the flow of my E2.0 List here on FriendFeed.
- Hutch Carpenter
I tweet a lot but I rarely if ever participate in Twitter conversations that go beyond 3-4 posts- then it's DM or FF time.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Overstock.com has appointed a new Social Media Manager http://www.readwriteweb.com/jobwire... @Intheblack on Twitter
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