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More South Carolina Republican Racism - http://digg.com/politic...
"Your comment basically implies that accusing Obama of racism is racist. "The secondary implications are that Obama (intentionally) favors non-white people who don't work (and that non-whites don't work)." So now it's racist to accuse anyone of racism?"
- Kevin Porter
Microsoft Vista voted tech world's top "Fiasco" - http://www.sciam.com/blog...
Clyde Johnny Jr, Floyd, Matthew Gifford and 15 other people liked this
My integrity remains intact.
- l0ckergn0me
from Bookmarklet
lol
- Caroline
Vista is fine as long as you have four gigs of memory and a really good processor. Otherwise...yeah it does indeed suck. :D
- MarkCarras
Windows 7 works wonders on my laptop that came with Vista.
- CW™
@Just CW .. if I could line up to pre-order Windows 7 I'd be there .. I can never say that about Vista.
- Steven Hodson
I'll use 7, but I'm not going to stand in line for it. :)
- l0ckergn0me
Dude, you live in Seattle. Just knock on Redmond's door.
- Mona Nomura
After the Vista fiasco? They have my face taped up at every reception desk with the headline: "DO NOT WANT."
- l0ckergn0me
I thought "Scientific American" reported on things that were .. you know.. related to science?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, I'm assuming there was a poll behind it. That, and apparently even saying the word "Vista" now causes an involuntary regurgitation response (instinct or learned behavior?)
- l0ckergn0me
After SP1, Vista was a good product with the right specs. It's not a real fiasco, but common perception has turned it into a marketing disaster. Honestly, I think it's a good piece of software (I could never go back to XP), but it's not fantastic in any regard.
- Kevin Porter
I guess if the poll was not scientific them maybe it was American ?-- there must be some reason why Scientific American reported -- or is this the current state of American science? Idiotic in the extreme.
- Brian Sullivan
I only ran a vista box for a few months before the win 7 beta came along, but I didn't have any issues with it. I had plenty of RAM and a reasonable CPU, and didn't try to get it to work with ten year old hardware, although neither is my AIO brand new by any means.
- Ian May
Top tech fiasco? Its marketing might be but technically I don't see the problem. Sure, if you gather anecdotal evidence it seems so but that does not proof anything (seriously, with anecdotal evidence you could even proof homeopathy works, go figure). I do hear a lot of sheep though: 'Vista is baaaaaad'. Which sheep started this?
- Erwin Blonk
I run Vista since Jan 2007 when I bought a new PC and never had big problems with it. But there's one thing that really bugs me: the performance. In my opinion an OS should do what the word says: operate. Well, Vista does but I think an OS should be able to optimize itself to run smooth. When I look at Ubuntu Linux on my 4,5 year old notebook it just runs fast, even with some desktop effects turned on. Well, my hope for Windows lies in Windows 7. I tried the beta in a VM and really liked it.
- Dennis R.
Limbaugh Rallies Conservatives to Find 'Right Candidate' (TOO LATE FATSO...THE ELECTION IS OVER) FOXNews.com - http://www.foxnews.com/politic...
It's not like there's going to be no election in 2012. The Republican party needs a huge wake-up call, and starting that just a year or two before the election isn't going to cut it. Regardless, you have to remember that Republicans are a minority in both the House and the Senate, and there being a separation between the conservative and liberal Republican party members weakens us even more. And by the way, attacking Rush does absolutely nothing. :)
- Kevin Porter
Hey, I need a new RSS Reader for the iPhone. NetNewsWire is as sluggish as heck. Anyone have a favorite?
Google reader ftw.
- Mike Orren
Google Reader is the best by far.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
And use Byline as your Google Reader client if you prefer thick client apps to web apps.
- Sparky
Byline if you use Google Reader, and myBlogLines if you use BlogLines.
- darnell
Byline for sure. Does google reader give you the whole article in the feed or a preview?
- Amani
I just took a peek at the Lite version of Doppler. Doesn't look bad; works with Google Reader. Full app is $0.99. Not sure if I'm buying yet, but wanted to throw it into the mix.
- Kevin C. Tofel
Will Doppler let you star items / share items? Or see those feeds?
- Patrick Jordan
Yes it will let you star and share items. I like this app so far.
- Patrick Jordan
from BuddyFeed
iPhone Twitter App Battlemodo: Best and Worst Twitter Apps for iPhone - http://i.gizmodo.com/5135117...
This prompted me to check out Tweetie, which is totally awesome. Second favorite Twitter app is Twitterrific.
- Kevin Porter
Anyway, here's my Christmas gift to all of you: I'm taking off rest of the day and tomorrow. So, it should be quiet here. Have a great time!
Daniel Zarick, bill giltner, Tamar Weinberg and 27 other people liked this
Wow, it's gonna get really quite here. ;) Merry Christmas Robert.
- Kenton
Merry Christmas!
- David Ward
Happy Holidays to you and yours, Robert!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
Merry Christmas, Robert, and see you here again on Saturday (no way I'll be able to get online on Boxing Day).
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Thanks Robert, and same to you and yours!
- Jared Smith
Write if you get work and don't take any wooden nickles.
- Christopher Harley
Who asked for quiet?
- Craig Eddy
I can get through my feeds now! ;-) Seriously though, Merry Christmas Robert - you need the rest.
- Jesse Stay
Cold Turkey Robert? thanks for your FF support.
- Russellreno
Could I have a gift receipt? I don't really like this gift! LOL Best wish to you and your family Robert. Happy Holidays! :)
- Daynah
Merry Christmas to you and your family Robert. :)
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
This message has been approved by Beebe & Arrington... just kidding! Merry Christmas Robert!! ENJOY and squeeze Milan, Maryam and yourself with a giant hug for me!! Oh and Patrick too...almost didn't recognize him now with short hair!
- Susan Beebe
thanks Robert, you too!
- Helen Sventitsky
Merry Christmas, Robert. Thanks for making the other 363 days much more interesting.
- Andrew
Merry Xmas. I'll try and fail to fill the void.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Thanks for the well wishes, Robert. And thanks for enouraging me to participate in FF. I like it here!
- Sue Radd
Hmmm...he just liked something a minute ago? That's some day off?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Merry Christmas Robert and enjoy the time off the grid.
- Mike Doeff
Booo!
- Louis Gray
Awwww
- Roberto Bonini
I said I was taking off of Twitter, not Friendfeed! Getting my hair cut right now.
- Robert Scoble
Happy X-mas!
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
Fooled!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Merry Christmas from Barcelona, Robert!
- Jordi Soler
You sure you can manage? No withdrawal?
- Aad 't Hart
Guess there will be no void for me to fill. I don't use Twitter much.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
@Aad: He couldn't manage :) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I glad you said it so I didn't have to say it.
- Russellreno
GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THE HOUSE AND VOTE! .COM - http://digg.com/2008_us...
"Wealthy in what country? Probably not the United States."
- Kevin Porter
GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THE HOUSE AND VOTE! .COM - http://digg.com/2008_us...
"Excellent example!"
- Kevin Porter
Apple donates $100,000 to fight same-sex marriage ban* | Technology | Los Angeles Times - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol...
Jerome, Jason Adams, Victor Ganata and 44 other people liked this
Apple is contributing $100,000 to fight Proposition 8, the California ballot measure that would define marriage as only between a man and a woman. The company's announcement today came as the fight over Prop. 8 grows hotly contested, with recent polls showing the race tightening.
- Leo Laporte
Go Apple!!
- Mr. Enn
You won't see any new Apple products in my house. That is low. A private company supporting a political cause, that a majority of Americans disagree with. That was a dumb move. You've lost mine, and many others' business, Apple.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I will keep my iPod nano, thank you, and likely buy another. However, I think it would make more sense is Steve put the money up himself and not directly involve the company.
- Shawn Poulson
Kevin, you sound like a homophobic person. -1 Way to go Apple. +1 for you. :)
- Mol, Santa Claws
Molly, I'm not homophobic. I am a supporter of the sacredness of marriage. Marriage was ment to be for a man and a woman only, not a man and man or a woman and woman. It is not right, nor is it naturally given to us.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
As Apple states, it's not just political, it's about civil rights. Are you going to stop using Google for searching as well? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008...
- Rick Powell
@Kevin, you're confusing different types/meanings of "marriage." Religious marriage is not the same as legal or social/cultural marriage. Religious marriage is (and should continue to remain) separate from legal marriage. (Though they're usually held simultaneously). Forcing others to adhere to your opinion is what's not right.
- Tanath
Hey Kevin - I am so thankful of Apple. My civil rights are being stripped away by people like you who use nonsensical talking points. It is disgusting that people who live in another state are pouring millions of dollars into Prop 8. The love between a man and a man and a woman and a woman, is not second class. We will not sit in the back of the bus anymore!
- PC Easy
from twhirl
Since I just got marrried recently to my partner of 16.5 years (straight), I think my gay and lesbian friends and a gay relative deserve the same right. We had a civil ceremony, and the day we got married, we were very touched by the gay and lesbian couples marrying at the same time. I hope and pray these people's marriages will not be voided on Nov. 4th. They deserve the same rights that my husband and I have enjoyed.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
civil rights are what laws give you! or am I wrong?
- directeur
Now I have more reason to dislike Apple.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
Why shouldn't Apple contribute...we talk about corporations acting ecologically friendly why shouldn't they act morally as well. Apple is saying they have a valued segment of employees that will be negatively affected by others who are trying to take the current rights they hold away. Standing up for your the civil rights of your employees is admirable and Apple will continue to be a company I support.
- Sidney
"morally" ? you must be kidding. This "morally" adjective is also used by the ones against it. Business is one thing, social life-style is another. All this is marketing, and a cheap one ; 100.000 for such advertising, now this is "marketing"
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Kevin: your bigotry and old ideas are not well thought out. Personally I wish our society would separate the legal rights of marriage from the religious/cultural implications of same. I don't really care what you want to do in your own church, but when it comes to legal rights everyone should be treated equally. Kevin: you sound like those who argued against civil rights in the 50s/60s. Amazing that such ideas still exist in modern society.
- Robert Scoble
I see it as Apple supporting the civil rights of its gay and lesbian employees. If you don't like gay marriage, don't enter into one.
- Michael Markman
Markman: So since I do support gay marriage then I should enter into one? :-) Someone had to say it!
- Stephen Foskett
Kevin: Your feed has some old status updates where you support the Presidential candidate who dumped his sick wife to marry a younger, richer woman that he had an affair with. Now that you've decided to vigorously support the sanctity of marriage, shouldn't you be advocating the candidate who has stuck with one wife his entire life?
- Bruce Lewis
But if gays get civil rights, soon everyone will want them...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Bruce: awesome point!!!!
- Robert Scoble
100k? that's like 1k to a company like apple....
- Patricia
Bad move, Bruce, now the McPalin campaign will spend millions trying to accuse Obama of multiple secret infidelities that began before he entered kindergarten! (I had to edit that; it could take a really sick turn)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
While I personally support "No on 8," and I appreciate Apple's donation, I have to admit I get a bit queasy when corporations can donate such huge amounts to political causes. It has the capability of putting their interests so far ahead of everyone else's, and that could easily be abused (and has, I might add).
- Glen Mistletoe
Ain't that McCain's October Surprise? Some woman that'll claim she's Obama's babymomma?
- Victor Ganata
Victor: if they had something like that they would have already pulled it. The early voting is locking in the vote every day (you should see the lines all over the country). McCain's campaign is in dire trouble and they needed to pull something like that a week ago, not next week.
- Robert Scoble
If the LDS as a Church (aka religious corporation) can donate why can't Apple?
- Sidney
aka Taylor: not to mention that LDS isn't even located inside California. Apple is and its employees are totally affected when they lose their rights due to a church trying to take away legal rights.
- Robert Scoble
If the prop passes it only puts off the inevitable. Freedom always wins out in the long run.
- Internet's Tad
I wonder if Chis Pirillo read this...
- Amir
Most homosexual people i know own at least one apple product (a macbook in most cases). that's because apple's are not asw ugly as the rest of the "techie things". I am not gay, and i personally like the old IBM thinkpad design. so fo Apple such a move is quite logical, and, it will generate a tremendous ROI! as for Kevin - mate, don't show too much of your (nothing personal) ignorant views. it's actually a fact that homosexuality is normal for most animals. agree or disagree, but we are animals as well
- Kirill Bolgarov
what a sad f'in country America is that this is even necessary. Just pathetic.
- Maverick
what a world
- Stowe Boyd
Robert and aka, to clarify: The LDS church is not donating for Yes on 8. They are encouraging their members to support the multi-faith group "Protect Marriage" that supports Prop 8. I would be more careful in terms of how that is portrayed, though the misunderstanding is easy.
- Louis Gray
Louis: ABC news radio was reporting today that 30 to 40% of the Yes on 8 ad money came from the LDS church. In any case, that's hardly any different. This is an issue that in 50 to 100 years your organization will end up apologizing for, just like churches have had to apologize for being on the wrong line of justice and decency before.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yes, the link shows 30-40% of the ad money has come from church members. The church has itself not donated.
- Louis Gray
I'm sorry to say this, but this ignorance makes me really sad. It's the 21st century and people hate homosexuals. It's sad that homosexuals can't get the same rights as hetro married couples. I'm sick of people going, "Oh It's immoral." People don't choose to be gay, yeah, people LOVE getting discriminated and attacked. Oh yeah, I'd so love that.
- Mol, Santa Claws
Louis: interesting that you make a distinction between an organization and its members. I do not. They are one and the same, particularly when leaders of that organization are encouraging the members to do something specific.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, also, this pro-8 campaign was actually instigated by the Catholic church, and the LDS church jumped on after being approached by the Catholic church if I read right. http://www.sltrib.com/ci_1079... It's not to be ignored though that a large percentage of the LDS Church members are in support of it regardless.
- Jesse Stay
Several churches (including my own, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) have voiced long-standing opposition to gay marriage. While these churches may not themselves be directly donating, they are certainly contributing in kind (see the LCMS page I stumbled upon earlier).
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
That having been said, I do differentiate between an organization and its members. Not every person who walks into an LDS or whatever church agrees with its teachings (most notably pro-choice Catholics, and Quakers such as Nixon who fought in World War II). There are probably many Apple and Google employees who support Proposition 8. McCain has voted against Republicans, and Obama has probably voted against Democrats. Few organizations if any reflect their members 100%.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
My tangent on individuals vs. organizations was pursued further in this blog post http://mrontemp.blogspot.com/2008...
- Ontario Emperor
Several churches (including my own, the United Church of Canada) have voiced support for same-gender marriage. My husband and I first applied for a marriage license about 20 years ago, and we had to wait a while to get it. ;) As for Kevin's comments, they remind me of a cartoon I saw in the paper, which depicts two couples, drinks in hand, chatting at a party, with one of them saying: "Gay marriage makes a mockery of all three of my marriages."
- Jerome
If they "ban" same-sex marriage, California might as well "ban" opposite-sex divorce.
Sharon Rosa, heather ♥s fauns on mars., Kol Tregaskes and 23 other people liked this
HAHA, totally
- Amir
Preach it!
- Derrick
Agreed
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Agreed
- CW™
I can't say I agree with you, its two different things.
- Tom
Yeah, wow, that makes absolutely no sense. You might as well say, 'If they ban shovels, then they should ban rakes!'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I support your hardline anti-yardwork stance.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, ... damn. You got me.
- Akiva Moskovitz
yeah, that makes no damn sense
- Cee Bee
Was that supposed to make any sense?
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I see his point: If wanting to ban same-sex marriage is to "protect the sanctity of marriage" then banning divorce would also "protect the sanctity of marriage". Divorce is supposed to be a sin.
- Nine
The people who are Pro-8 would probably agree with that.
- Glen Mistletoe
Sorry but this just seems like the same kind of 'preaching to the choir so I can say anything and not get called out on it' detritus that FriendFeed sometimes accidentally promotes.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I like the word "detritus." Good diction, Akiva.
- Glen Mistletoe
Thanks, Glen. I figure if I'm going to make a point, I might as well tart it up a bit.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I was agreeing due to the most adamant in the stance having the same view Nine was talking about.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I think it's a good point. If the opposition to same-sex marriage is based on the sanctity of het marriage, then opposition to different-sex divorce should be based on the same, and be just as strong. Why is there no movement to amend the Constitution to disallow divorces? Unless someone can tell me some other definition for the word "sanctity.' It only makes sense within a religious context and no sense at all in a legal or Constitutional one, which is why it has no business being enshrined in law.
- Rick Powell
Heh "Sanctity of marriage." I'll believe that for a dollar.
- Victor Ganata
On the other hand, equal protection has everything in the world to do with Constitutional law, and the CA constitution. so, ya know, those damn judges were correct.
- Rick Powell
Hey, if you agree that chocolate cake is delicious, you might dig some out of a toilet with a fork if you're hungry enough.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Prop 8 is only concerned with denying civil rights to gays because they're destroying America.
- Internet's Tad
Tad, can you stop spreading our entire agenda around. We're trying to take over the world, y'know.
- Derrick
You and your damned homosexual agendas!!
- Internet's Tad
I guess I'll just go back to floating around lisping and watching Danny Kaye movies. *pouts*
- Derrick
We should start a movement!!
- Amir
What Operating System do you think best suits you? - http://geeks.pirillo.com/xn...
Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu, Glenn Batuyong, Steve Spalding and 2 other people liked this
OS/2.
- Akiva Moskovitz
LISA
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
RISC OS :D
- alphaxion
Linux.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Love Linux/Sabayon
- Anthony Farrior
XP 64
- Dominic Dale
Linux. easily suits me better.
- Brendan Mclaughlin
I prefer Linux, but am force to use Vista at the moment:(
- Bluesun 2600
Linux almost always for server use unless i have a standalone spare Mac. Macs on the desktop for sure. Windows XP for the minute things that don't run on the Mac yet.
- Glenn Batuyong
from twhirl
GNU Hurd
- ·[▪_▪]·
XP, don't sound like a true geek but i love it.
- Siddharth Mitra
from feedalizr
Just moved everything back to XP ... It just works.
- Charlie Anzman
with cygwin... i get best of both worlds.
- Siddharth Mitra
macosx... it gives me the convenient, attractive and intuitive interface but still lets me get hardcore command-line if I want to
- Shawn Duffy
from twhirl
I love the handwriting recognition of Vista. Sadly, I'm told that using Vista on our domain is likely to result in a device that is disabled due to too many failed authentication attempts. Perhaps SP2 will remedy that.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Windows Server 2008
- Jemm
ubuntu
- Murat Bişkin
FriendFeed is now an operating system?
- Thomas Hawk
OS X. simple = best.
- Mona Nomura
Ubuntu FTW. Simple, yet geeky. Out of Windows, Vista is the best IMO.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
OS X
- orionstarr
Depends. Linux because my name is in the credits. =) NeXT for nostalgic reasons. Mac OX FTW. XP because it's still around.
- Jauder Ho
Anything that's stable and doesn't suffer from memory leaks. XP for games, OS X for anything else.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Ubuntu Linux.
- Sam Levine
Whatever requires the least amount of time. 80% of my time is spent in a browser, so it barely matters what's behind it, just as long as there is an option when you need some other piece of software or need to connect with something. XP works just fine, is stable, comes on cheap hardware, connects to everything.
- Mark Radigan
I agree with Mark, and it depends on the machine. My old laptop runs Linux fine, but struggles with XP, so I work better with Linux on that. I need Windows to run Adobe CS3 for much of my business, and as Mark said, I'm in a browser much of the time too, and I don't care then as long as it gets the job done.
- Ian May
OS X really floats my boat!
- Siddharth Deb
OSX--XP convert...
- Kelly W.
Windows XP (although, I'll probably be giving Vista a go soon). OSX makes me curse. And I'm not geeky enough to use Linux everyday.
- jbrotherlove
OS X, but have machines with XP and Linux too.
- Richard Peat
Linux (Debian), undoubtly
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
Obama Can't Win Against Palin - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
William Harryman, cbgreenwood, Roberto Bonini and 19 other people liked this
"In Mrs. Palin, Mr. Obama faces a political phenomenon who has altered the election's dynamics. Americans have rarely seen someone who immediately connects with large numbers of voters at such a visceral level. Mrs. Palin may be the first vice presidential candidate since Lyndon B. Johnson to change an election's outcome. If Mr. Obama keeps attacking her, the odds of Gov. Palin becoming Vice President Palin increase significantly."
- Russellreno
from Bookmarklet
Yes We Can!
- Alex Scoble
Agreed. The Democrats lose the election if it becomes about Sarah Palin, rather than the economy, Iraq, energy, education, and constitutional freedoms.
- Chris Baskind
o crap
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Look at the by-line. Nuff said.
- Eric P
Should've pointed out that the piece was by Karl Rove. 'Nuff said.
- Steve Lowe
This viewpoint, even if it was written by Karl Rove, resonates with me.
- Robert Scoble
Holy crap. Karl Rove can make up his own reality and spread it via WSJ. Squillions of businessfolks are going to read this and remember it and tell their friends. I'm glad WSJ puts in the sidebar and footnote that reveal Rove's political leanings.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
But he's right. Palin cannot become the subject of this election. The subject is that GOP junta has run the country like a banana republic for eight years, and now says the next four would be different if we return them to the White House.
- Chris Baskind
I agree Robert - the campaign has completely changed, she may be president in 4 years, keep that in mind
- Jason Kintzler
Once again, Karl Rove is right.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
Karl is entitled to his math.
- Beebo Wallace
Love the Obama quote about how him running for president counts as experience points that qualify him for President. By that logic, Al Sharpton is qualified.
- Mark Jaquith
from twhirl
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Obama running against McCain?
- Jeff P. Henderson
With Palin on the GOP ticket,the experience question is moot. Enough.
- Chris Reed
@Jeff - not anymore ;)
- Jason Kintzler
OK, lets here some discussion about issues from the candidates now.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Jeff, you wouldn't think it, the way he's been going after her specifically.
- Mark Jaquith
from twhirl
I'm not going to honor Karl Rove by responding line by line to his drivel. Either party can write articles like that, they never give a full picture. Maybe it just comes down to values for me, ie., I don't share hers, although perhaps the Undecideds do.
- Marko Bon
Consider the source. Karl Rove. Obama hasn't been going after Palin. Rove wants him to.
- Mark Logan
from twhirl
I can't believe I just wasted my time reading this propaganda. I further can't believe the Wall Street Journal chose to publish it.
- Carlton Northern
It's evident that Palin was selected to counter Obama. GOP musta figured folks might not vote for McCain, but they will vote for Palin. Definitlely cynical. Possibly successful.
- MikeAmundsen
I agree with Rove on this. Obama just needs to stay clear of Palin.
- Russellreno
It is interesting to see how peoples views are clouded by preconceived political ideas.
- Zach Scott
I'm not surprised that the WSJ printed it. They are just catering to their customers, most of whom are conservative.
- Alex Scoble
@Zach Your preconceived notions about people's views is interesting.
- Mattb4rd
WSJ = Ruport Murdoch = Fox News = Karl Rove's Boss
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
Dinosaur girl?
- Steve Chou
Enough is enough! Less political garbage - more debate on issues. I'll start - do you believe in trickle down economics?
- AJ Kohn
yep, Palin is the 'red meat' for Dems. Palin is cast as the 'victim' that the left-wing media abuses, that the liberals denegrate, and the democrats don't understand. great story for running a campaign. and the Dems have a hard time keeping away from it. like others said, Palin is not the election issue. the GOP/McCain is. any press on Palin is press *not* covering GOP/McCain. Dems need to figure out how to make her a non-issue.
- MikeAmundsen
@alex It's obviously just an opinion piece. Don't be too scared of opinion. :)
- Mattb4rd
Karl Rove should talk about failure of Bush Admin instead of Obama
- imran
It's funny how an inexperienced Democrat can be a "change agent" but an inexperienced Republican is a "bad Disney movie". :|
- John Denver
You're right @AlexScoble, Yes We Can!
- Paula Moore
No, it's a fact that trickle down economics hasn't worked for the bulk of Americans. It results in the rich getting richer at a faster rate than anyone else. It doesn't pull us up all equally.
- Alex Scoble
"I hate him, therefore he's wrong" is a logical fallacy. Democrats ignore Karl Rove at their peril; he is an absolute political genius. A stinking, slimy weasel, but a political genius nonetheless.
- Glen Mistletoe
it's true, if this becomes about Palin, we Dems are screwed. But Obama and Biden *have* been talking about issues. The Repubs can't win on issues, so they take random quotes out of context and try to refocus it on Palin. Look at what they did with "lipstick on a pig." The media is complicit in this.
- Victor Ganata
I think Rove makes some good points here. The question is, why is he giving free advice to the enemy? My thought: he's trying to reverse psychologize the Obama ticket into taking on Palin. It's win-win for him; if they take his advice, he can claim victory, if they don't McCain might win.
- John
from twhirl
@AlexScoble, is it a fact? I credit much of the economic boom of the '90s to Reagan's economic policies. Reagan let the rich keep their money and, no, it didn't do much for everyone else at the time. However, there were no good investment opportunities in the '80s, so the rich horded their cash. Then, when the WWW (and other technology-related industries) took off in the '90s, the rich invested and everyone else benefited.
- J. McConnell
Good thing that Obama and Biden are totally doing the grassroots thing. The media generally fails to provide substantive coverage of what they're doing, and what they're doing is really resonating with a lot of people. Anecdotally, everyone I know is voting for Obama, and i'm in freakin' San Diego, certainly one of the most conservative cities in the country. People really aren't as stupid as the Republicans and the media want you to believe. When you're getting screwed hard enough, you pay attention.
- Victor Ganata
The thing I find most interesting is that Karl Rove once helped determine policy from the inside the Bush Administration. Now Mr. Rove works in media now. He gets to help to form and shape public opinion now. The WSJ and Fox News are his platforms for doing so. Am I the only one that finds scary? He has managed to cover all of the bases for promoting his school of thought.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
They've got Palin doing all the PR gigs, have hardly seen McCain in the past week. The Democrats need to (and I want them to) play smart.
- Chris Dahl
Yeah, those reps aren't as stupid as we thought, eh? Of course it was the only viable opportunity and seems to be working. so far.
- Alex von Halem
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Tagged both this debate and the story with Delicious.
- Roberto Bonini
I agree with Alex on trickle down economics. The gap between rich and poor is wider than ever, in part because of this practice. And at it base you need to think about it this way. If you were to give WalMart a tax-break, would they increase employee wages?
- AJ Kohn
Alex, have you ever considered that the rich may be rich because they are smarter and make good decisions? Stupid broke people, if given a lot of money, will soon be broke again. "Life is hard. It's harder when you're stupid" - John Wayne
- Mattb4rd
But...um...he's NOT running against Palin. Are the mass electorate really that stupid?
- Steve just Steve
LOL that's laughable Matt...there are plenty of stupid people with money. You don't necessarily need intelligence to make money. To think that you do is laughable, just as it's laughable to assume that you need intelligence to get a degree. If our problem with poverty was as easy as that it would have been fixed long ago.
- Alex Scoble
The hype usually wears off 30 days after the convention.
- Bob Gannon
@AJ Kohn, I'm not disagreeing that trickle down economics might not work, I'm wondering aloud if it should be considered a "fact" that it doesn't work. In your example, I don't think it's fair to ask if Walmart would increase employee wages if given a task break. The fair question is, given a tax break, would Walmart invest that money in a way that benefits the many more than if the government had taken it in taxes?
- J. McConnell
Alex: Laugh this off too, if you will: Socialism has failed every time is has been tried.
- Mattb4rd
What I'm looking for isn't socialism.
- Alex Scoble
A rose by any other name...
- Mattb4rd
I dunno, Europe seems to be doing OK, doesn't it? I mean, they're currency is certainly stronger than ours is right now.
- Victor Ganata
I think Rove may be wrong on two points here. First, Obama hasn't been devoting significant time on attacks on Palin. Second, the contention that Palin is popular may not be true. Her negative poll numbers are higher than her positives. Her appeal may prove to be narrow and short-lived.
- Mark Logan
Daily Kos: State of the Nation - Sarah Palin is not the Mother - http://www.dailykos.com/story...
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"Well, Sarah, I'm calling you a liar. And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better." (Wow. I am curious to see how this plays out.)
- Christopher Sacca
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The most bizarre propaganda I've seen in a while. Seems like McCain really hit a nerve.
- Sprague D
I agree Sprague D, McCain definitely hit a nerve,
- Rodzilla
Is this total bullshit? I realize Kos is liberal. But, I am curious whether he would risk his credibility on something this accusatory. Nevertheless, I am very open minded on this. Feel free to post articles refuting all this into this thread.
- Christopher Sacca
The flight to Alaska from anywhere is not a pleasant one for someone who is not pregnant. Flying there while in labor? Nutty. If she did this, I seriously question her mental state.
- EricaJoy
This reminds me of the speculation of the veracity of Britney Spears boobs back when she was 17-18. All based on photo evidence and anecdotal reports.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Some curious circumstantial evidence, but spreading this rumor as it stands today is as evil as the right wing's "Obama is a Muslim" smear campaign.
- Ken Norton
@Erica, yes, this is definitely evidence of really stupid medical decisions.
- Ken Norton
I'd give odds against it being true -- if this were a movie, that storyline would get booed as far too contrived -- but I can already imagine campaign rhetoric if it is true: "She told us during the vetting process, she wanted to protect her daughter, sanctity of life. caring mother with experience of the real world..."
- Paul Haahr
Sarah Palin is a responsible adult, isn't she? All she needs to do is show her medical records, included the routine visits to her Obstetrician. If she can't or won't I'd expect it would be game over for her run.
- tagami
wildly improbably... I cannot imagine that she would have gotten through the vetting process if it were true. Of course, that assumes the McCain vetting team actually did their job.
- Rachel Luxemburg
Yeah, this seems so improbable as to not be worth more than a chuckle. I agree that those pictures don't look like pictures of a woman who's 6+ months pregnant, but this is a woman who is presumably seen in public several times every week. She'd have to be a pretty bad liar to have floated such a lie. If I had to guess, I'd say that the pictures provided in the story weren't even taken at the time the story claims they were.
- j1m
@Sacca, also note that this story is not from kos himself -- anyone can sign up for an account on dailykos.com and write a 'diary', and this guy appears to be just anyone. For example, it's not listed on the front page as a recommended diary, which means people with accounts haven't been recommending it. I read a few of the comments from members of the community, and many of them are...
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- j1m
I agree that it feels like the liberal version of the Obama birth certificate story, but there's certainly some weird stuff there-- the daughter being out of school for eight months is suspicious, and the flying thing is really odd. I think that this stuff is pretty easy to clear up by having her release her medical records, which I think most candidates do anyway nowadays.
- Josh Wills
ridiculous. daily kos is such a lousy site.
- Rob Kniaz
I ditto Rob Kniaz.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I'd love to see Kos get hit with a libel suit. But besides, what if Sarah Palin were lying? What crime is she guilty of; trying to protect her 16 year old daughter? I'd find that admirable.
- Dave Roth
@Dave Lying to your constituency to maintain the illusion of "wholesome family values" is not admirable, it is simply politically driven lying.
- EricaJoy
Campaign has revealed that the daughter is pregnant: http://www.cnn.com/2008...
- Ken Norton
How I Think of DNS / OpenDNS - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I love the smile at the end. :)
- Mattb4rd
I don't really trust a DNS service that uses my requests to serve targetted ads at me. I truly wish we could come up with a mechanism to cover costs without going to the teet of the ad industry!
- alphaxion
I love OpenDNS. I can really tell the difference in my browsing speed when I use it, versus when I use my ISP's DNS. It's also a lot safer, I know that it can't be spoofed.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
That's actually a very good explanation... I might have to lift that one in a training class.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
from twhirl
See Gmail unread message count in Safari's dock icon - http://spotthehall.com/safarid...
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But who uses Safari anyway? FireFox FTW!
- Mona Nomura
from Bookmarklet
I use Safari, and not Gmail. FTL!
- l0ckergn0me
FAIL
- Mona Nomura
*ahem* You FAIL? If you say so... ;)
- l0ckergn0me
Safari + no Gmail? YOU = FAIL. Like George Dubya falling off his bike ULTIMATE FAIL'age, FAIL
- Mona Nomura
Not using Gmail at all is like the motherload of all FAIL
- Outsanity
+938749283742938472937842 Outsanitiy
- Mona Nomura
@mona: did you mean dubya falling off a segway...which was supposed to be impossible? http://is.gd/1h6F
- .LAG liked that
I'll drop Safari when Firefox catches up to it in terms of performance. Until then, I feel safe knowing that my browser can execute JavaScript faster than yours. Check your FAIL at the door, yo.
- l0ckergn0me
.LAG: I meant http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mona Nomura
@outsanity - you're right. Exchange is far too convenient to be considered better. ;)
- l0ckergn0me
Raise your hand for Opera, anyone? Don't worry, S and FF are also kickin' it on my system.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Performance? Have you tried using Firefox 3? It totally kicks ass performance wise.
- Alex Scoble
Chris P. GTFO with your Firefox HATERADE. I'll take plug-ins and options over JavaScript loading .0000834534954 faster ANY DAY. YOU = FAIL
- Mona Nomura
WTF is Safari anyway? lol
- A.T.
I don't know. I think it's like Opera. (Not the one you watch)
- Mona Nomura
Mona - you'll take instability and laggy UI over speed ANY DAY? Yeah, since you put it THAT way, I'll check myself into Betty Ford if you promise to seek treatment for whatever the hell you're smoking (unless you decide to share some of that wonder drug with me).
- l0ckergn0me
safari3 is still faster for me than ff3, but the lack of safari plugins makes ff3 more useful...ymmv
- .LAG liked that
haha, Mona starting s**t early today. :P Safari FTW!
- Tsega Dinka
Anyone else use different browsers for different 'things'? Me, IE for work, Opera for personal, and FF for anything blog related. Safari for design testing.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Chris, what do you use for mail? Let me guess.. mail.app? :)
- Tim Hoeck
Safari is to iphone as Firefox is to Blackberry? I prefer the UI and performance and color engine and font rendering engine on Safari. FF is just not there for me.
- Tsega Dinka
I barely touch IE anymore unless it's the IE Tab addon for FF. FF is my basic browser except I have to use Safari to upload videos to YouTube. If Safari had an "open new tab" button rather than going into "File > New Tab" I'd use it a bit more
- Outsanity
Hey Safari users, where's your new tab button? Oh ya, that's "show all bookmarks" USELESS
- Mona Nomura
@Outsanity: Cmd+T will open a new tab in safari. If you want to use your mouse, you can also create a new tab using double click in the empty area where a new tab would go.
- Tsega Dinka
You can also middle click on a 3 button mouse to open a link in a new tab. But only in Firefox can you middle click to close a tab without bringing focus to it.
- Paul Reynolds
Safari is to intuitive as George W. Bush is to John F. Kennedy
- Mona Nomura
Safari is the only Apple product that I can honestly say 'good'. *runs*
- Yuvi
Safari is USELESS. I'm a HUGE mouse person. I don't even F5 on FF (FriendFeed) @Paul: Doesn't work. USELESS
- Mona Nomura
Actually, Paul, I wrote a Safari extension that let's you close a tab using the middle-button on a mouse. http://joeygibson.com/2008...
- Joey Gibson
HUGE Mouse person? Like Mini Mouse or something?
- Tsega Dinka
I use WebKit nightlies (Safari). Squirrelfish Javascript and the most standards compliant rendering engine on any platform. Also the fastest browser on the Mac next to Omniweb (which is based on the same thing). FTW! But if you want to load up your browser with bloat 3rd party plugins and stuff, well then Firefox is the way to go.
- Adam Turetzky
Mona, are you sure you wanna get into this with me? :) Much like in Firefox, you can double-click an empty space in the tab bar to open a new tab. Moreover, in Safari, you can right-click the page's title in title bar to move up the path (very useful when navigating a site). If you're really a mouse person, you should be in love with that Safari feature. ;)
- l0ckergn0me
OMG MM = GARBAGE. That little ball = worst thing EVER. @Chris P: I need things to be simple, self explanatory, and easy to use. Confusing user experiences FTL
- Mona Nomura
Bloated as it is, FF receives a lot of its usability from plugins and extensions. Can Safari be controlled with gestures? Remove arbitrary content from page? Block / allow Flash? Convert textual URLs to links? These are things that are so ingrained into my usage pattern that I can barely use Opera and can't stand IE %)
- 9000
Why do we care about the extra "features" of Safari? *ahem* Firefox *ahem*
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
Mona - you do realize you're a walking contradiction. You can't need things to be simple, self-explanatory, and easy to use - and then claim to appreciate Firefox over Safari (the epitome of simple as far as desktop Web browsers are concerned). :)
- l0ckergn0me
Safari's interface is confusing (to me).....? I don't have the patience to learn keyboard shortcuts, either.
- Mona Nomura
holy<s>war</s> smoke! just try to zoom some page: first in FF, then in Safari. I'm sure, you'll get the idea about what makes ff so lovely
- Alexey Ivanov
What to do if the inside of a girl gets wet - http://seoblackhat.com/2008...
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How helpful.
- Corie
I know it's a bit off color but it really is a legitimate question and ... that is certainly not what they meant! Google still hasn't taken it down either.
- AJ Kohn
HIGH LARRY US
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Oh, that's excellently hilarious.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I've always wondered what to do in case that happens . . .
- William Harryman
I wonder what links that suggested query returns.
- Morton Fox
Hmm...there might be some useful information in that link.
- Matt
It's become self-reinforcing now because there are loads of sites with the phrase "what to do if the inside of a girl gets wet" that link to this search.
- Robin Barooah
Wow. I'm starting to think that Vista users are as defensive as Mac users are smug. :)
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i'll second that
- andy brudtkuhl
third!
- Yuvi
Me too
- Dan Kaplan
Is smug really the word for it? I don't think it's being smug or any other form of conceit
- Raymond Mendoza
Let me guess all you guys are Mac users? Vista user here. QED I guess.
- Brian Sullivan
No we're not!!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@Brian: I'm a Vista user too, and I find myself defensive when it comes to OSes.
- Yuvi
As a linux user I don't need to be defensive or smug... Oh - actually we are probably both!
- Rich
vista sucks, and I'm on vista
- clarke thomas
As a Vista user, I find that Mac users are a little smug. Can't even try "go to the dark side" to even touvh a PC.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I've always believed that Vista users are as wrong as Mac users are right. Wait a second... ;)
- felix
Well look, if everyone keeps saying that Vista is buggy, slow, and a memory hog, wouldn't you be defensive too?
- Morton Fox
both attitudes are earned by the underlying software ;)
- Michael Markman
I love my Mac. I love my Vista Media Center PC. Both are great! I think a lot of the Mac vs. PC drama stuff is just that, drama. I saw MSFT employees using Macs last week up at Microsoft -- no biggie. I think Vista is a huge improvement for the PC. It is far, far, more stable than my old XP setup that I had previously. I think much of the drama is developed by Apple as a marketing strategy more than anything based on previous problems with Windows stability back on XP and other earlier versions.
- Thomas Hawk
I use Vista *and* a Mac, what does that make me?
- Eric P
To be honest tho -- yeah we might be defensive -- but only because everyone is all over Vista for being crappy when it's not. It's alot of bad hype -- lots of ppl think it's great and works just fine -- including me
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I think Thomas has it right.
- Yuvi
@Frans People don't consider you stupid or inferior because of your tool selection.
- Robert Fischer
Thomas is absolutely right.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I'm a fanatical Apple fanboy. But that's because Windows and me had a very long and very rocky relationship. That's as much mine as Windows' fault. Everyone to his or her own I say. As long as you can get the job done. In the end a computer is just a black box between you and your product.
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
I don't care for Vista or what their users think. I just want my chocolate.
- Bwana ☠
Lets face it, the Mac vs PC argument is mostly subjective at this point. The hardware is now the same. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Both are fairly stable. Both have a similar UI. It all boils down to preference and what you are used to using. I can only think of a very few reasons to prefer one over the other, and they are based on software availability on on platform vs the other.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Thomas, I know you have written about your XP stability problems in the past. My experience is the complete opposite. I have 3 desktops and a laptop running XP. I can't remember the last time I had a blue screen on any of them. I've had no networking problems. I only reboot the desktops about once a month or so to install a windows update. I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Vista primarily because I'm happy with XP as is. Haven't delved into the media center stuff yet. I may want to try Vista when I do.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm nice and cozy with my XP. And I like to keep it that way.
- Shawn aka ringking
What are you talking about? as a Linux user I don't need to be.. to be.. to... .. . oh, OSses are just tools, we just have to use them. But are them useables? ok, ok, taking cover ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I second that Linux users have to be defensive AND smug. As for Vista users, I haven't found many, so I can't say.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
But I haven't had *that* many problems with my Vista computer!
- Sarah Perez
Love the one you're with - Vista, Mac, OpenSuSE - they're just tools, it's what you do with them.
- Victor Ryden
We're not smug! PC users are just insecure ;)
- Veronica
Don't get me started on those Prius owners either :D
- Mo Kargas
The people that drove like assholes in there Mercedes are now driving like assholes in their Prius.
- Victor Ryden
I just purchased my first Mac about three weeks ago. I've been a loyal Windows user since Windows 3.0. However, there are two operating systems that have missed the mark in a MAJOR way. The first being Windows ME; the second Windows Vista. I still use this OS, but I dislike it. I'm now in love with my Mac and my iPhone. MSFT will bounce back...we always do ;)
- Ryan
There's no telling what kind of mixed-up nut I am, since I run Vista ON my Mac! I haven't leaped to Leopard, yet, because I had Application Enhancer (of the OSX BSoD fame), and also I'd not like to drive an hour and a half to an unfamiliar city if my keyboard stopped working properly. Shipping the MB back to Apple is not at all an option.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
How do you know someone is smart? I've been thinking about that this morning and looking back at all the conversations I've had and one common theme is smart people talk to you about ideas, not about celebrities.
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Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie would certainly agree!
- Internet's Tad
What about people who share stupid ideas? Like Free Enegery, most conspiracy theories, many political statements, etc etc...
- Internet's Tad
Robert, I like this and totally agree :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Tad: even those people are still smarter than people who tell you about what Britney Spears did last night.
- Robert Scoble
You could replace "celebrities" in that sentence with "names of people". In other words, it's ideas and concepts that are important, not egos. Even "nobodies" can have egos. Narcissism shuts out the world beyond the self, we can't learn if we are always holding up a mirror, never looking beyond it.
- Jason Wehmhoener
My dad once told me that even the dumbest person in the world can teach you something because he probably knows something you don't.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Smart people listen more than they talk.
- Randy Hall
To me the smart people are those that make a well-reasoned argument for and idea and then do two things. 1. Have the guts to put it out there to the world and 2. Have the guts to change their mind if they're wrong (or hold their ground when they know they're right)
- Morgan
I think it all depends on the topic you're discussing. I'd say someone is smart if she can engage with you on the discussion and make you think about it from a different angle.
- Bruno Pedro
Jason: it's one thing if I tell you "Doug Engelbart had dinner at the Ritz last night." It's a whole nother thing if I tell you "Doug Engelbart told me that xxxx idea is interesting and he's working on making that better."
- Robert Scoble
I absolutely agree, Randy.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Duncan for example is a smart guy, but still talks about celebrities, so it's possible to do both and still be smart
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Which reminds me I need to talk to you about an 'idea' at blogher. ok. not really...more about which cam to get for the conventions. lol
- Erin @queenofspain
I agree... This is especially obvious here in LA... although sometimes the celeb mention is the nature of the business -- or at least mention of -- as Calacanis would say -- "webebrities."
- Andy Sternberg
Jason: that's true. I have yet to meet someone who is able to communicate (I have a friend with a mentally retarded son who isn't able to communicate, so we'll leave him out of this) who I couldn't learn something from. Randy: exactly. When I fail as an interviewer it isn't because I'm listening, it's probably cause I'm talking.
- Robert Scoble
Andy: when you talk to the smartest people in Hollywood they talk to you about ideas. Trends. People's work. They don't talk about "I saw Tom Cruise at dinner last night" or "did you see what they said about Oprah in the tabloids?"
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I agree. The point I was trying to make is that we can learn something from almost everybody, even those who we may think know less then us.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I think one can be smart and still talk about "Weird Al" Yankovic, because he's smart.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
Dobromir: Duncan's best work is when he talks about ideas. That's why I love Duncan, cause he tells me who has the most interesting ideas, and he's very willing to debate ideas (I've debated a few with him).
- Robert Scoble
I think people can be both highly intelligent and pretty stupid at the same time. Robert Anton Wilson said it better than I can, "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases." And that doesn't apply to just religious dogma - any kind including political, scientific, cultural, etc.
- Internet's Tad
Robert Anton Wilson++
- Jason Wehmhoener
this is a cool thread! we need a lightbulb "intelligence meter" on FF - users vote on how smart you are based on your posts... bulb gets brighter with more votes!
- Susan Beebe
Susan: fantastic idea! Now that's smart.
- Bruno Pedro
I have a theory that being smart is simply a matter of the attention that you give somthing. Granted, Nobel Prize winning physicists dont grow on trees.
- Roberto Bonini
smart to me is someone who knows what they know but more importantly knows what they don't know - too many intelligent people who never make it to smart because they are too busy broadcasting what they know
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
That would give credence to the old saying “if smarts was electricity that boy couldn’t light up a 10 watt bulb. “
- Moved to Facebook
Social media is about inclusion, don't alienate too much with your labels and boxes
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
I've found smart people treat being smart like fight club: rule number one is you don't talk about being smart. Rule number two is you don't talk about being smart. To Jason Wehmhoener's point, smart people don't spend their time making a point of how they're wrapped up in smart things or "look what a good person I am for talking to x or doing y."
- Mark Trapp
Smart people usually start talking by conditioning everything - and the first condition is for them to say they are not an expert ...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Smart folks understand questions are important, they are not afraid to admit ignorance and appreciate that learning is a process not an event.
- Dave Martin
LPH: hmmm, the ultra smart like Douglas Engelbart (who really is the true visionary I've spent time with) just paint pictures in your mind of how the world will be someday. He never said he was expert at something, just talked about how this new world would work. I could listen to that guy for hours. At 82 he's easily the smartest person I've met.
- Robert Scoble
Michael: that's an interesting question. The biggest way I've found? The only skill not smart people have is in ripping down other people's ideas, or, worse, trying to rip down other people altogether.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, put it another way: smart people talk about the world that could be, not that the world that is?
- Mark Dykeman
"No one who cannot rejoice in the discovery of his own mistakes deserves to be called a scholar." - Donald Foster
- Roberto Bonini
Smart people simply can get the job done faster and pay attention to the hidden details that others would miss. I still don't know how to best test for it, though.
- Ben Parr
smart people are visionaries, humble and most likely pious too. Take a look at the peoples who are deemed as being smart. These are some of the comman attributes of these type of people.!
- Peter Dawson
I think it can go both ways-Charlie Rose talks about both-ideas are great, but what is with the people behind those ideas - that's very interesting! I also think its a natural human instinct to talk about others - it depends on the context. "I saw Tom Cruise last night" is the lowest common denominator. Inquiring about the dynamic of Shell's latest barrage of public vitriol and the work ethic of others in the Valley are spurned from natural human curiosity that we all share, whether we ask it or not.
- j sven
+1 for Paul
- Steven Hodson
Robert: ”Smart” here as different from ”Intelligent” – I have one story that will help us out here to identify a smart person. I had a friend at high school that knew he was not that intelligent, but he was smart: - he used to research old exams to see what the previous year tests would possibly cover on the upcoming exams. He used to collect all class notes from the top “dedicated”...
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- Joao
@susanbeebe: I dunno, I'd feel pretty hurt when the system took away my lightbult entirely.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
@regila: all this for a "bob"? ;-)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I remember my dad once telling me what Eleanor Roosevelt said... "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people."
- Brian Sloane
the first sign that someone is really smart... they will tell you they're not but they will show you they are.
- Scott Lockhart
I'm not saying I'm particularly smart, but I truly find celeb gossip one of the most uninteresting things I can think of.
- Ian May
I think that smart people are the people that get things done. Imagine two people that have never heard or met each other and both of them come up with the exact same brilliant idea. One person brings the brilliant idea to a reality, while the other person doesn't. Which person is smarter?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
from NoiseRiver
Plug for the "highfalutin" room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... if you want to talk about things with depth
- Ňicķ
maybe true...but everyone is smart in their own right. you might be a social media whiz but not know anything about putting in kitchen cabinets. I'm a firm believer that everyone has their sweet spots in terms of knowledge. The really smart ones, just take the time to expand that sweet spot so it's more than just a spot and more like an area.
- Don Martelli
I think a smart person can talk about both. That way he/she can converse with all people and not make anyone feel less smart than them.
- Adrienne Van Houten
Adrienne: I agree with that. But smart people never start out that way.
- Robert Scoble
What an awful generalization. That's how I know when someone is smart. When he doesn't make an implied generalization like "stupid people talk about celebrities".
- Jay Cruz
smart people think through questions and give full answers. who talks to you about angelina jolie? i agree anybody asking scoble about that is "not as intelligent," but probably nice people...unless they have no idea who you are....maybe they ask you these questions: "is veronica belmont really cute in person? or is kevin rose really a ladies man?" however, smart people are not always smart in all aspects of their lives...
- Pokai
"Smart people talk about ideas. Common people talk about things. Mediocre people talk about people." -Jules Romains
- Joe Lencioni
@Jay: You spelled know wrong.
- Daniel Smith
For the record, that was a joke ;)
- Daniel Smith
Thank's @Daniel Smith
- Jay Cruz
You know when someone is smart when they know what they're talking about and they have a good understanding. "Smart" people grasp things better and/or have ideas.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
Smart is not about opinions ("Stupid ideas"). You can be smart and have different beliefs. I'm wondering if they are "smart" conversations or just engaging conversations. I'm much more interested in sharing ideas than sports scores, gossip, or transitory circumstances.
- Barb Gonzalez
Ugh. Most of these comments seem to prescribe behavior to those who are "smart" - one of the only commonalities I've ever seen of truly smart people is that they make their own rules. To say they only talk about X not Y or they listen more than they talk or any other behavioral observation misses the mark with me. Smart people don't subscribe to other peoples' ideas of what they should be.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Smart people realize how little they know but have no need to try and convince others that they know a lot.
- Dossy Shiobara
Scoble, no one is "smart" or an "expert." It doesn't really matter at all. The only thing that matters is how people preceive someone to be. My blog, http://onlyjames.com/ is constantly growing, so I believe people to think I am smart. Then again, I might be a complete nutcase. :D
- James Mowery
from twhirl
I think you can define smart a few different ways as well. I think the question you're really asking is "How to determine if someone is INTELLIGENT?"
- David Andrzejewski
I have noticed that they seem less likely to urinate in their pants than the general population
- Seth Shapiro
I wish I understood this.
- Michael Markman
Takes a long time of knowing someone and seeing how they react under differents sets of circumstances. People are smart in some ways, but not in others.
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
When I hear the word "celebrity" I now think of Sarah Austin's Pop17 which come to think of it Robert, you have never acknowledged that I know of. Her site is about a new kind of celebrity. For her, and for me, the interesting celebrities are people who become famous because of their outstanding work. And she does not attempt to ask about shallow tips or favorite colors, but rather about their work. The people she tends to interview are micro-celebrities small in size, but important.
- Andrew Baron
Smart people don't brag about how they can recognize smart people.
- Rutger Blom
I enjoy people who talk about other change-makers in the world. People who point me towards amazing & influential musicians, dancers, physicists, politicians, chefs, etc... Sometimes the geek-world is a little heavy on ideas. I enjoy hearing about the life history & paths of unusual chemists, religious leaders, and environmentalists. Just as some of my friends have more "aesthetic sense" than others, some are unusually attuned to remarkable people, and some to innovative ideas.
- Mitchell Tsai
smart people just know
- Pokai
@ Scoble, once again you've hit a collective nerve with this thread. it goes back to what makes us human? "i'm not human without you"- Desmond Tutu re: Umuntu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... communities like friendfeed should be a place where we explore these types of questions, there is enough pablum out in this world already, thanks for pursuing this line of questioning.
- michael sean wright
I have an idea in that I'd love to get Britney Spears on Twitter - I think that would do wonders for her career. ;)
- Jesse Stay
Is smart a measurement of intelligence or emotional quotient? One's intelligence is measured and quantified, like it or not, whether intelligence is synonmous with smart, that maybe another question. One can have emotional quotient as well i.e. street smarts and it too is measurable. Intelligence is not dribble. Intelligence, for me, is the generation of ideas with vision followed by implementation. Intelligence has many forms as well albeit plasticity or crystallized. Good nature versus nurture question.
- ka3drr
I'll answer with this: the people's intelligence that I most desire and respect are the ones who are able to bring reality to the "out of the box" ideas they have. Plenty of people can speculate, but very few have the competence to bring a good idea to the rest of us.
- Tony
depressingly true...
- Stephen Roberts
I still have no clue who these A-listers are that people talk about but I'm interested in ideas both from other people and also sharing ones I come across. Celebrities? Phooey, give me an original thinker any day.
- Sally Church
Pop culture aficionados are not necessarily stupid. I think the smartest people can carry on a conversation about nearly anything, and like it or not popular culture is a great source of inspiration for many ideas.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Hmmm, how about... Methinks "smart people" think about having conversations with people (aka "intellectual celebrities") with whom they can talk about ideas and... Sigh... It still goes back to Howard Bloom: http://users.ucom.net/~vegan... —I'm a Zen Buddhist, but I still do think "God" is fair... As in, I can brainstorm pretty well, yes, but I'd die in the Aussie outback if you put me there. :P
- asepsotic
Thats a great observation. If only we could make those ideas a reality :) You are a fun guy to talk about ideas with.
- Christian Burns
Is this where we talk about Paris Hilton ?
- Eric Berlin
Eric: my niece says Sean Faris is hot. I don't even know who that is. Off to the Google for me! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I think I have a trump card. go look at The Inquisitr..there's some pretty intelligent posts on there and, also talk about celebrities. You can tell someone you are talking to is smart by the way they treat the subject at hand and, how they deliver their portion of the conversation.
- Candace
Funny you should mention him, Robert. I'm working with a website, and he's one of our celebs on it. The odd part, for me, is that we have all of these B+ list celebs, and I don't know any of them.
- Bradley McSpinn
I put it to you that smart people talk about people rather than ideas
- Jim
Tony Snow dies at 53 of cancer - http://digg.com/world_n...
"Be civil. Tony Snow was a great man, and he will be missed. Absolutely do not turn this into an opportunity to bash Fox News."
- Kevin Porter
Internet Explorer 7.0 for the Mac has been Spotted! - http://flickr.com/photos...
Sarah Perez, Jeff Quinton, Michael Garrison and 3 other people liked this
That's not Photoshop? Surely ..
- Chris Baskind
Who would want to use IE in the first place, let alone on the Mac
- Grant
I don't quite believe that. Considering IE 8 is in beta.
- Adam Helweh
Next thing you know they will have Safari on Windows...I guess anythings possible but it looks fake to me.
- Don Rogers
Fake, in all certainty. @Don Safari is available on Windows since quite a while.
- Parth Awasthi
Parth- I think Don was being sarcastic
- Grant
LOL
- Mona Nomura
Do all Mac windows look like this? (Blurry fonts, etc)?
- Yuvi
Why would we care?
- Cyndy
Yeah... its us windows users sharin the "love".
- Michael Garrison
from twhirl
Explorer/Mac project was dropped long ago-- don't think Ballmer is going to revive it-- someone has to much free time ;-)
- Mark Nassal
from twhirl
DO NOT WANT!!
- Kreg Steppe
Ewww! Why on earth would anyone want IE... on any OS?!
- Margaret Kerr
from twhirl
IE? People still use that?
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I don't want to see the posts of friends of people I follow on FF. That is a suckweed feature.
Jeff P. Henderson, Melle Gloerich and Cody Heitschmidt liked this
Choose one person whose timeline you don't want to see. Click hide. Then click "See options for hiding other items like this." You'll then see a popup box with a few options, one of which is "Hide stuff from friends of friends." I hope this helps!
- Donna Mugavero
Funny, I think it's the coolest feature. It's how I find news that I would never have known about before. It's also how I find new people to follow, as well.
- Robert Scoble
It's the real NEW thing that FriendFeed brings to the social networking, I think. It's the way I am able to comment on your post!
- Giovanni De Stefano
I agree with Robert. I discovered a whole bunch of people I would have never interacted with otherwise.
- Michelle Martinez
It is cool, if you like it...Sucks, if you don't ... Thats the joy of opting out... Could make opting out a little easier... But thanks for having the option.
- Cody Heitschmidt
If this wasn't a FF feature how would I have learned the word "suckweed" today?
- Dean Terry
Thanks to the "suckweed feature" more people are reading your opinion on it. Since it expands the potential for conversation and can be configured at the user level, I'd say it rocks. For example, I would have never seen this without the "friends" feature. ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
By the way I would have never read this if Scoble Hadn't been subscribed to Frank Roche... Whom I wasn't subscribed to but am now!!!
- Cody Heitschmidt
I agree with both of you, it is annoying because it fills my page with a bunch of useless nonsense, but at the sametime I am finding new "friends". a conundrum for sure.
- Adrienne Van Houten
can I plant suckweed in my backyard?
- Justin Korn
I just wanted to type the word "Suckweed" .... Sorry
- Cody Heitschmidt
Okay, I'm persuaded...and thanks to @msinformation I know how to make it go away, too.
- Frank Roche
at first this feauture bothered me too, bu it makes sense. how often on twitter do you see a conversation one of your friends is having with someone else, but because you don't follow that someone else, you don't know the full extent of the conversation -- but the conversation seems interesting, and you'd like to weigh in if you could. this feature closes that gap.
- Lynne d Johnson
Frank can we get a promise that you will go right now and find something else to officially label as suckweed?? Please???
- Cody Heitschmidt
Hmm. I'm seeing this because I follow Scoble. ;)
- Kevin Porter
It also means that those of us who like and comment on things have a great responsibility. Do it to bad items and we help them spread. I try to choose only things that are adding value. I don't always succeed, but it's something I do think about. "Do I want to waste my friend's time with this?"
- Robert Scoble
It's official, if you do a search for "suckweed" on google now, this conversation is the #5 hit. YEAH for suckweed!!
- Justin Korn
Jason: see the first comment.
- Ken Sheppardson
One of the best features of FF and you don't like it... Strange!
- ※Fu※
how else would I have found your post! I think it's a very cool feature, as long as the people you start following are people who don't let spammers in. If you find that one of friends, make friends of a lot of people you don't like, mebbe you shouldn't be following them in the first place :). I know it is a lot of manual work to weed out entries when you follow Scoble, but hey Scoble is high maintenance :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
seen this post exactly because you're a friend of my friends, anyway :)
- Marco Castellani
i can't stand it either, its one of the reasons i don't follow Scoble on friend feed, he has too many friends. And twrhl ignores the friend of friend setting
- Paul Rj Muller
I need a DVD ripper for a disc whose content I own but am having trouble importing into a video editor. Recommendations? Advice? DRM rants?
No rants on DRM. ;) But, I like DVDFab HD Decrypter. It's pretty good. (Even though it gives a price, it's just the price when buying.) http://www.dvdfab.com .
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
HandBrake FTW
- Mike Doeff
Firefox 3 Direct download links
James Mayer, Alex, ehsan11m and 87 other people liked this
Mac OS X http://download.mozilla.org/...
- Bwana ☠
Windows http://download.mozilla.org/...
- Bwana ☠
Wow! Thanks! That worked!
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
This worked for me. Thanks. (I wonder if this counts towards the record).
- Ben
That's how I managed to get it. Working great!
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
Works for me too, thanks. I am all for setting the record but if those dorks make it hard for me, then I won't bother
- Bob Ngu
w00t!
- Voyagerfan5761
Thanks a lot!
- Wictor Wilén
You da man, Bwana
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Well done!
- Rich
Careful with the overseas mirrors. They will not enable auto-update!
- Charlie Anzman
Release candidate 3? I thought this was a final version?
- Brian Sullivan
Great
- Palin Ningthoujam
@Brian Sullivan: RC3 and Final are identical.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
Thanks Bwana! I'm downloading right now :) oh it's finished. see you then.
- Kenichi Matsumoto
I went directly to the source -> ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/
- Mike Marusin
Shit it forces FF as the default browser -- no option to modify during install it seems.
- Brian Sullivan
I guess no one in the tread is participating in the record :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Well done
- Jican
ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/
- Will M
Hmmm..custom installation wants Fx in ..Mozilla Firefox Beta 5 folder, is the link really the final release?
- Wictor Wilén
Do we know that the FTP links count?
- Voyagerfan5761
I would hope so: FTP and direct HTTP downloads are trivial to track.
- Mark Trapp
shit - no firebug for rtm yet...B-(. scrambling to remember how to set "ignore compat" switch...
- Shawn L. Morrissey
@Voyagerfan5761: Mozilla said they don't earlier. If you do get it from FTP, download it from the main site later.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
It just installs on top of the existing version.
- Rich
What's the md5? My file (windows) has MD5 = c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3
- Rich
Dynamite! thanks bwana!!!
- Noah Carter
Is really the final version identical to the RC3 and so the version we are downloading is just a set up for the firefox down(load) day
- Stéphane Guérin
Thanks Bwana, struggling with server down for minutes :)
- Dan H. Racek
I've only downloaded the Mac version, but the md5 matches on both FTP and the link I provided above. Mac OS X md5: 27ff7989db6a206cdfc8989aca9f9283
- Bwana ☠
I cant spot much differences between RC3 and the final version
- Palin Ningthoujam
There shouldn't be many differences. But so far so good on my system. Seems a little snappier and uses less RAM than earlier betas.
- Robert Scoble
excelent
- Ruben Llibre
Updated. Thank you, Firefox team. A vast improvement over FF2.
- Chris Baskind
Did it. Can I go home now? :)
- Naor Mark
is there somewhere (or some tool) to check compatibility with your addons? I don't want to have to go to each individual addons page and read the fine print.
- Tim Hoeck
Palin, the final release of FF3 is identical to RC3. No code changes whatsoever; it's the same package.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Linked to this from RWW - awesome! :)
- Sarah Perez
The welcome page says "Release Candidate 3" after I install from the Mac OS X dmg with an MD5 of 27ff7989db6a206cdfc8989aca9f9283. However, the about page says just "version 3.0".
- Fred Yankowski
from twhirl
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox... not working
- Varun Mahajan
The "about" page has said just "Version 3.0" for a while (or at least it does previous in RCs). I can haz actual release and not RC?
- Karim
Shawn, go to http://getfirebug.com. Under releases you can download beta 12. It works with 3. I'm not sure how stable it is, so, as with all betas, installer beware! They claim it to be stable.
- Joel Gray
...getting off topic here, but I've been using Firebug on FF3 for weeks and it's very stable.
- Daniel Shaw
Watch them live on Mogulus...they just said downloading from mozilla.org counts. http://www.mogulus.com/air_moz...
- Bwana ☠
thank you, I can finally download FF3
- Rajiv Doshi
yeah, i've been having a hard time getting the updated firebug for ff3. anyone have an alternative download link?
- Ivan Stegic
never mind, i just answered my own question. firebug for ff3 is available on the ftp servers too, in a different directory. go herE: ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/addons/1843/
- Ivan Stegic
Thank you very much.
- Kevin Porter
thanks for providing the link
- Moksh Juneja
Wow, that link made it much todo about nothing.
- Russellreno
My Mac OS version also has MD5 27ff7989db6a206cdfc8989aca9f9283 - can someone confirm whether it's really final or RC3 (or provide an official confirmation that final == RC3)?
- Chester
For those wondering, the md5 of the Mac OS X download from getfirefox.com and the one I provided above match. Both are 27ff7989db6a206cdfc8989aca9f9283 Those are the official versions
- Bwana ☠
Dude. You're awesome! :)
- Flora
Re: One word to describe John McCain? (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Brandon Wood liked this
"Grump."
- l0ckergn0me
John McCain isn't a grump, but he's definitely a disappointment. Especially so to conservatives like myself.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
I'd almost be more interested in FriendFeed if it didn't pull in stuff from other social networks... almost.
Pat Hawks and Kevin C. Tofel liked this
It only does if you want it to. ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
So... you want FriendFeed to copy Twitter?
- Pat Hawks
hide the stuff you don't want.
- Duncan Riley
I love that feature! See what's hot.
- john conroy
You only have to give it what you want to give it. Otherwise, it's just a Twitter clone.
- Kevin Porter
from twhirl
It is the aggregate feature that makes me prefer friendfeed to twitter. I like to see the photos and blog posts and what movies they are watching. It makes me feel more a part of the community.
- Aura Mae
Besides Chris, aren't most of your Twitter posts just tinyurls to your other social networks?
- Pat Hawks
It wouldn't be FriendFeed without the aggregation. Discussions around aggregated content is what it's all about. I filter by hiding most things that have no activity, except for stuff from my favorite followees.
- LogEx
the Ramen Noodle - http://www.theramennoodle.com/
The Ramen Noodle is a blog focused basically on random things, bundled with a random podcast. It's hilarious, and is great when you need a good laugh.
- Kevin Porter
the Ramen Noodle - http://www.theramennoodle.com/
The Ramen Noodle is a blog focused basically on random things, bundled with a random podcast. It's hilarious, and is great when you need a good laugh.
- Kevin Porter
Home & Kevin Porter - http://kevinporter.wordpress.com/
Neat little blog authored by none other than myself.
- Kevin Porter
Home & Kevin Porter - http://kevinporter.wordpress.com/
Neat little blog authored by none other than myself.
- Kevin Porter
Main Page - The Open Wiki - http://nascent-project.org/
It's being built currently, but I can't wait to see it continue to make progress. Once it's finally finished, it will be great.
- Kevin Porter
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