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What is your day job? Be as brief or in depth as you would like.
Rah-PM 2012, Mona Nomura, Morgan and 27 other people liked this
Product/Project Manager for a company called Carmanah.
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
Elderly grad student and open source contributor. Don't know if I can call either of those jobs though :)
- Michael C. Harris
Manager of IT Project Management for Nelnet Enrollment Solutions (CUnet.com office in Rochester, NY). Primary work involves "IT Infrastructure Integration" management of all projects for http://CUnet.com and http://Petersons.com = FUN! Also, I am the VP of Information Technology for http://PMIRochester.org
- Susan Beebe
Batman. Oh, day job. Web Developer.
- Hao Chen
IT manager for a graphic design company.
- Mark Trapp
Web, Graphic, & Print Designer, and Web Video Editor for http://www.americansafetycouncil.com - and also co-founder and designer of http://www.flickchart.com
- Nathan Chase
Training Manager, b5media
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
CEO, Nichenet Pty Ltd...which really means Editor, The Inquisitr, as I haven't done a consulting gig in maybe 4 years
- Duncan Riley
Advisory Software Specialist (just what the heck does that mean) at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in NYC.
- Kevin Shannon
Bit manipulator
- Drew
pixel pusher
- sean percival
Senior Systems Engineer, Solutions Center (Software AG Inc.)
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It's like a rollcall. Heh.
- Robert Sanzalone
RN ICU
- Irene Katz
Blogger for b5media, Cell Phone Signal, and set up websites for businesses. Also a junior in high school.
- Zach Flauaus
Senior managing editor at a medical certification board
- Linda Mills
programmer in startup + research student :)
- David Petar Novakovic
from twhirl
Web Developer at http://www.wego.com which is a travel meta search engine. My current project is to build an analytics application for internal use, analogous to Google Analytics. Right now, I program mainly with Ruby.
- Winston Teo
M.O.M.
- Melissa Davis
from twhirl
offically it is online services coordinator at http://slwa.wa.gov.au but I introduce myself as the web geek
- Nick Cowie
from twhirl
web designer
- Andrew Smith
I run a blog network called Gear Live.
- Andru Edwards
Software Engineer
- iTad
Director of Technology, Navstar, inc and IC Rockstar ;)
- Andrea Baker
Product Manager at a software company
- Mike Doeff
sitting at a desk pretending to work, going to meetings, and wishing my work had meaning (see also "Dilbert")
- Kevin L
Run a product development/manufacturing/ideation company in Greater China. No lead allowed even in the pencils.
- Mark Forman
Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares
- Charlie Anzman
I am an RN in theatre but I am about to start a Geek job associated with nursing next Monday - then I have the second job doing the odd website and management and my own podcast and anything else that comes along
- Dave Gray
from twhirl
Independent Game Developer/ College Sophomore - the two fit together nicely :P
- Sean Dunn
I help large government organizations figure out how to spend taxpayer money on technology.
- Chris Hollander
VP, Marketing at Caring.com, Online Marketing, SEO/SEM Strategist and Tactician.
- AJ Kohn
Tug boat.
- Akiva
Online Giving Manager, Give Kids The World (Kissimmee, FL)
- John Frost
Student and sometimes a journalist
- Timo Heuer
Like the world doesn't know by now: I am the King of Antarctica
- Dan Kaplan
Freelance developer / animator
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Retired Business Analyst and small business owner.
- Russellreno
Senior Executive in High Tech
- Stephen Terlizzi
Designer/Developer at Vertigo
- Alan Le
3 Weeks of Serving Fried Food. Nope.. not much of a job for a 14 year old
- Tyler (Chacha)
from twhirl
Creative arts academic
- Kate Foy
Old media reporter, New media bridge-builder, student of both computer and legal code.
- Andrew Feinberg
Web Producer for The X PRIZE Foundation. I basically manage all of their web properties (mostly on Drupal) as well as 3rd party web services.
- Mark Krynsky
LinkedIn gives it all away: http://www.linkedin.com/in...
- Louis Gray
Business Analyst.
- Parth Awasthi
I work doing software support for Barclays small business!
- Joe Dawson
breathing. It's a full time job
- Mona Nomura
widget media guru
- Ivan Pope
from twhirl
Product Manager for Digital Asset Management and Social Collaboration at http://www.day.com/
- Lars Trieloff
Louis' idea is the easiest: http://www.vincedegeorge.com
- Vince DeGeorge
Thanks for participating everyone.
- Mike Fruchter
Mike - This is a great resource for discovering new contacts.
- Russellreno
http://www.linkedin.com/in...
- Mohamed J
Russel for sure, It's very interesting to see what our fellow Friendfeeders do in there day job. A great thread for meetting new contacts as well, definitely agree.
- Mike Fruchter
Quite a low-profile one but very interesting nevertheless: http://14sandwiches.com/about/
- Martin Bryant
Formerly, a social media specialist at google. Currently, enjoying an extended summer vacation and hoping when I'm 80 years old I'm still not calling myself an ex-googler.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Local Govt IT Advisor
- David W
Pharma and biotech marketing consultant, science and cancer geek
- Sally Church
@Charlie "Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares " Your salary just increased!
- Mike Fruchter
low-level fraud detection job at a very large bank. I might link this to my earlier lamentations about this job... here's that link http://friendfeed.com/e... feel free to add more to that, though I did get plenty of good feedback back then.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Garbage Man, Brooklyn New York - work the Greenpoint-Lorimer route. Ok, kidding, but I wanted to break up the monotony of design/tech jobs;) I'm a Creative Director at an interactive advertising/marketing agency.
- Steve Isaacs
currently - grassroots public affairs
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
[gasp] kamilah! i do something kind of similar! :D
- edythe
systems architect; currently building appliction systems unifying disparate data for law enforcement. yes, I fight crime!
- RAPatton
retired
- Michael W. May
In between at the moment. But normally personal / executive secretary, Any one need an assistant? Flunkie? or slave?
- Adrienne Van Houten
Director of communications and public affairs at Rockefeller University (hey, @Kevin Shannon: We're neighbors!)
- Joe Bonner
VP, Marketing and Product for Caring.com. On some days I also do some consulting through Blind Five Year Old (http://www.blindfiveyearold.com)
- AJ Kohn
WOW, this blast from the past is back
- Mike Fruchter
Since this posting I have changed jobs. Currently I'm Director of Digital Strategy at Pierson Grant Public Relations.
- Mike Fruchter
I build relationships through technology
- Jesse Stay
Or, more accurate: I build technology that builds relationships
- Jesse Stay
Risk analyst in Compliance Management group of financial services company...deal mainly with PCI DSS
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I work for the man.
- Morgan
Underpaid Bureaucrat
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I'm doing social media and content crap for a pretty big company - blogging as a hobby for a pretty huge network. Word.
- Mona Nomura
Voice over actor, performance trainer
- Kate Foy
Seesmic, Friendfeed and Twitter next to each other in a test version of Twhirl. Adding tons of Friendfeed experience improvements in there, Marco rocks.
QUIROS, Rah-PM 2012, Wins Fern and 88 other people liked this
I love this version. And Seesmic in Twhirl is so addictive
- Loic Le Meur
nice improvements Loic!! bring it on!!
- Susan Beebe
can't wait - gimme more ;o)
- Marco Sascha Sven Hoppe
from twhirl
very interesting. The friendfeed integration looks way better than before. Will have to give this a look when it is released.
- Rob Diana
Seesmic ROCKS!!
- Larry Miller
from twhirl
okay, so FF and Twitter are in the latest? but not Seemic correct?
- Lou Paglia
This might get me back into Twhirl.
- Akiva
and it has FF rooms support!
- Loic Le Meur
wow, looks great. remind me http://twitku.com/ for a second there...
- Orli Yakuel
looks very cool. exactly what we need. but what about plurk ;)
- Phil Coyne
from twhirl
yes... when?
- Mike Wills
@LouPaglia - correct, Seesmic is not integrated with Twirl desktop app yet
- Susan Beebe
in a few days I think for the new FF integration. Seesmic comes next.
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Super! When!??!
- Florin Grozea
from twhirl
looks like it might replace alert thingy as my RIA of choice
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
integrate into one window, is all i ask, make it indisputably the best
- Ruben Llibre
none of them working in linux TOO BAD!
- Yassin Alvandi
Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr?
- Shawn Farner
The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password.
- Daniel E. Renfer
from twhirl
Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
so is seesmic cool now?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
How do we score the test ver? :)
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
You tease. Where do I download it?
- Rafe Needleman
Cannot wait, big Guy!
- ledretch
I want... When?
- highcenter
from twhirl
Can't wait!!
- Danish Khan
from twhirl
actually it will be pushed in an hour or two
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Can't wait!
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
Nice teasing. Do you have any release date or will you take the "it's done when it's done" side?
- Romain Péchard
from twhirl
I would love some "best practices" guide for how to get the most out of all that information that will be flooding in.
- Brendan Cosgrove
from twhirl
How do I add my Seesmic account into Twhirl 082? It's not showing up in the "accounts" list.
- Rafe Needleman
from twhirl
We should have a Twhirl + Seesmic preview in the very next days
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
This looks awesome!
- Svartling
I think this what im looking for!
- Michael Scott
awesome!
- Barbara R. S.
wow - one of the furthest back boomerang ff threads i've seen
- mike "glemak" dunn
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Wow, this is pretty old. I got excited for a second, thought Loic had seen the light and was starting to care about Twhirl again. NOPE.
- Shawn Farner
Wow. I just made Chrome my default browser. I never thought I'd do that ...bye bye Firefox 8-O
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i just can't live without my X-Marks
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I am now switching over to make friendfeed my official twitter client.
Thierry R. Andriamirado, Neurario, KyNam Doan and 103 other people liked this
Why?
- Tadhg Kelly
because friendfeed rocks!!! thats why :)
- (jeff)isageek
seriously though...I am using friendfeed more and more and now with saved searches I can create friends lists and pull just their twitter messages and follow them like i would with tweetdeck or whatever. once saved searches go real time that will be awesome!
- (jeff)isageek
plus if someone is not signed up for friendfeed or not streaming their twitter posts...no problem...just create an imaginary friend and there you go!
- (jeff)isageek
I'll join you this week, when I start back Twitter-ing. been on friendfeed only since sat. yes it rocks!
- Wayne Sutton
from BuddyFeed
jeff what about mobile/iphone updates that you want to post on friendfeed then to twitter ? I'm using buddyfeed now and don't think there is a way...
- Wayne Sutton
from BuddyFeed
wayne yeah that would be one mobile limitation of using friendfeed as your twitter client at this time that I can think of. without saying every posted message via friendfeed goes to twitter I dont think that is possible.
- (jeff)isageek
what would be kool is if friendfeed would add like a switch command like say #tw or something that tells the system. ok post this via my mobile to friendfeed but also post it to twitter.
- (jeff)isageek
as a matter of fact i think i will add that to the friendfeed feedback as an option i would like to see
- (jeff)isageek
Yeah, it already is half way there for me as well. I don't have too many imaginary friends though, but I'm with you on this.
- Parth Awasthi
the other issue with twitter messages is obviously to get the @ replies they would have to be one of your friends. so you might have to check twitter.com from time to time to see if someone you are not following @ messaged you. you could grab the rss feed of twitter search but it doesnt show you the name of the person who sent the message in the rss feed.
- (jeff)isageek
Today, I unfollowed anyone on twitter who had an FF account, and subscribed to them here. Down to 100 people. One of them joined FF, but he made a good point when he said FF needed more effort than twitter (initially, at least). People need to setup a personal "system" (lists + filters) before they can reap the advantages FF has over twitter.
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan yes...I think people who say friendfeed sucks or dont understand how it can help them have not found the saved searches. those things are really key to getting so much more out of friendfeed then watching your home stream fly by.
- (jeff)isageek
Do you think it would be a good idea for FF to provide a "template" of sort ? I think they provided some default lists in the old site, perhaps they should provide some group subscriptions, some default, common filters ?
- Ahsan Ali
i think really the main thing is just us the friendfeed junkies blogging and just talking about how awesome the saved searches are and how powerful they can be.
- (jeff)isageek
i think if your average user or even power user who is not familiar with them see's and hears about them in action they will be like wow that is a great feature and a reason to use friendfeed other then to create a stream of all your activities
- (jeff)isageek
Hmm. Is there a useful guide anywhere that explains how to set this up? I'd be interested to try it out but find a lot of how friendfeed works kind of complicated and I don't usually have the time to dig into it.
- Tadhg Kelly
Tadhg if you are looking for info on the saved search stuff i recommend checking out the FF saved searches group http://friendfeed.com/ffss as well as bwana did a great show on the power of them http://sn.im/gdmxs
- (jeff)isageek
In fact, if you think about it FF doesn't have one killer feature as such. Lists, Discussions, Searches, Likes - they're all subtle tools that can be used in diverse ways. I guess we just need to demonstrate them to our friends.
- Ahsan Ali
I think this whole discussion is a prime example of how much communicating with a large group is so much better on friendfeed then twitter. can you imagine coming in 5 messages ago and getting what has all been said by following @ replies and we could never have the threaded conversation and long responses.
- (jeff)isageek
1up jeff
- BEX
I would be 100% on FriendFeed now if I weren't running a service that had Twitter support. It's a much more cozy environment.
- Jesse Stay
i hear ya jesse I really liked your blog post about using twitter with gmail and started using it. great way to do it...but it all came back to me wanting to get as much as I can into friendfeed and staying at this great place :)
- (jeff)isageek
Next step, turn off Twitter on FriendFeed! Weaning yourself from the tit - er twitter - is painful but strangely satisfying.
- Leo Laporte
Twitter is the worst part of friendfeed! As people have said, it's the little differences that make ff what it is!
- Chris Lloyd
that would be a big step leo. I dont know if i am ready to go that far yet. I still have a lot of friends who use twitter that i want to keep in touch with so for now I will stick around there :) but i am slowly making the move towards what you are saying for sure.
- (jeff)isageek
Jeff, you could post from here, turn off your Twitter stream (since it would be duplicate content anyway), and use TweetBeep to track mentions of your name. No more Twitter. :-)
- Jesse Stay
If you use PeopleBrowsr you don't need to switch. Just open a stack with your friendfeed. You can make combined lists from both twitter and friendfeed in PeopleBrowsr
- Svartling
some good thoughts there jesse!! hmmm
- (jeff)isageek
svartling i have started playing around with PeopleBrowsr a bit. need to check it out some more.
- (jeff)isageek
There are just _too_ many tools now, seesmic, peoplebrowsr, tons of websites that do things atop twitter....
- Ahsan Ali
And I mean that in a negative sense.
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan yeah there are a few tools out there :) plus with different services out there it can make for an interesting plan of attack to keep up with everyone.
- (jeff)isageek
wow this has really turned into a big discussion :)
- (jeff)isageek
I'm with Jeff on this one. And probably the biggest reason is the quality of the content and users on FF. I over followed a ton of people on Twitter, and it's kinda too much work do go in and unfollow a bunch of people. So, I'm finding myself more in FF. And, it's easier to find good users via the comments they leave and the rooms they belong to. (However, I will admit that I could do some of that in Twitter via searches. But I'd still have to do all that unfollowing)
- Bill Bittner
my only thing about peoplebrowsr is I am trying to get away from things like tweetdeck or whatever. and just have friendfeed as my base of social web operations.
- (jeff)isageek
Jesse, can you point TweetBeep directly to FF via the email feed or does it need to verify the address?
- caj needs a haircut
jesse back to your thought of killing my twitter stream on friendfeed...I feel like that should be up to people who follow me. if they dont want my twitter posts or want to get rid of the duplication then they can hide those entries. but I feel like I should supply all my streams here and let everyone do with it what they want.
- (jeff)isageek
i think with tweetbeep you can grab an rss feed cant you jesse?
- (jeff)isageek
i grabbed the rss feed from tweetbeep and basically since it just uses twitter search to get its data it never shows who the tweet was from without clicking it. so i couldnt pull that rss feed in here and see oh hey so and so just @ replied me without taking extra steps. now the email funtionality does show you the user you @ replied you.
- (jeff)isageek
interesting idea there about the email feed though alan but yeah i think when i signed up for tweetbeep i had to verify the email address
- (jeff)isageek
Well, the Twitter search rss gives you a direct link to the tweet, which contains the person's nick: http://twitter.com/persons...
- Ahsan Ali
Jeff, I'm testing it out now. Stand by!
- caj needs a haircut
yeah but Ahsan it would be nice to just see it in your friendfeed stream or whatever and just know who it was from rather then having to click away from the service
- (jeff)isageek
Jeff, but if your Twitter stream is exactly the same as your FriendFeed stream is there really reason to keep it?
- Jesse Stay
point taken Jesse
- (jeff)isageek
Alan, you can add the RSS I think - haven't tried. I prefer e-mail because it ensures I don't miss anything.
- Jesse Stay
ah forget it I think I am just gonna move everything back to myspace :)
- (jeff)isageek
jesse and thinking about your idea of just pulling your twitter feed if someone really wanted to have my twitter feed for filtering purposes they could just create and imaginary me and pull the data that way.
- (jeff)isageek
Hmmm, so tweetbeep notification made it into FF okay by changing my email in tweetbeep to iphwin@friendfeed.com (http://friendfeed.com/iphwin...). However, it didn't show any information about who it came from. Well, unless because *I* sent it, it shows from me. lol, that make any sense?
- caj needs a haircut
ok i went ahead and pulled my twitter posts from my friendfeed profile.
- (jeff)isageek
PeopleBrowser can be overwhelming in the beginning, but when you get it, you will never use anything else. I'm both a Twitter and FriendFeed freak and this tool is perfect for both. Plus much more. You can even get blogsearch streams and other RSS Feeds in realtime!
- Svartling
Svartling that is pretty kool but I still think going that route means I have to give up time on the actual friendfeed site which is what I am striving to do with the changes I am making and bringing both twitter and friendfeed together the best I can here at FriendFeed.com
- (jeff)isageek
Ok. I understand but you can do that in PeopleBrowsr too ;) But I know what you mean. Good luck.
- Svartling
but I will keep playing around with PeopleBrowsr too though. I might find it to be a better fit after a few days :) I am all about trying new things and new ideas. that is what is great about this whole conversation...bouncing ideas off of each other...talking about our thoughts and ideas on this little subject, ect.
- (jeff)isageek
Yeah that's true. I just want to let you know that PeopleBrowsr exists as an Adobe AIR app too if you prefer that. I prefer the web version.
- Svartling
Jeff just got 4 stars in my book. :-)
- Jesse Stay
from email
haha well good to know Jesse :)
- (jeff)isageek
If it werent for friendfeed, my twitter account would still be rotting away.
- Ron Wening
My experiments with tweetbeep ended in a wash. There didn't seem to be any advantage to using that service (feeding into FF via email) and using a custom RSS feed from Twitter Search. So, I'll keep the RSS feed going to my Twitter Friends group and continue with my regularly scheduled program, already in progess.
- caj needs a haircut
just checking out www.flock.com
- Dominik Schneider
with some development and add ons this could be a great alternative to friendfeed (or friendfeed will be integrated into flock)
- Dominik Schneider
FWIW: We are adding additional FriendFeed functionality into PeopleBrowsr this week "Home" feed and "My Discussions" were added last night, and live-testing today. We expect to have even more functionality (Lists and Rooms) coming in the very near future. Please let us know what you think when you try it :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'm just not sure you can really make FriendFeed into a full featured twitter client. You don't see everything. I even bring in a feed of my @replies from search.twitter, but those are of limited use since I can't actually use them to communicate with people who aren't FriendFeed users. or am I just missing something?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Good move - congratulations -
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Rob, if you check "Include entry description as a comment" on that custom RSS feed it'll show who it's from. You could then start a new post with a @reply to that person. Very kludgey, eh?
- caj needs a haircut
Alan: yes I could go through a bunch of hoops to do it, just seems too much trouble
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, since we as users can manage a workaround, I'm hoping that the FriendFeed folks could figure something more streamlined and automatic.
- caj needs a haircut
While at one point I might have agreed with you Alan, I've since become a heavy believer in the multi-network "social-desktop" client, and prefer all my data to come in through a single window. To effectively FriendFeed requires more screens than I have. I find the FF web site basically insufficient for this reason. With access to my Lists and the Rooms I'm subscribed to, I'll get more...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
yeah, good call - i switched to only ff awhile ago and ignored twitter but now the two tools are mostly seamless together
- mike "glemak" dunn
i love using friendfeed more, too!
- Egyirba
Most of my friends on Twitter are not on FF so I have them as Imaginary Friends. This is OK for reading their tweets. Also it gets round the recent @reply changes by Twitter. I can again see their @replies to other people I don't follow. BUT, I can't have FF conversations involving them because they are not on FF. Also I can't see who my twitter friends replies are directed to and then...
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- By_tor
try setting up an rss feed of your @name_twitter
- mike "glemak" dunn
Very interesting discussion over here about making FriendFeed your Twitter client. While I've thought about it in the past, there are some serious drawbacks. I'd much rather be able to import my full "with friends" RSS feed from Twitter and do some serious keyword filtering on it (have played around with using Thunderbird - Mozilla's Email client - for that purpose using the message...
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- Alex Schleber
Mark not sure about the limitations thing. guess i have been lucky and everyone I follow pretty much is setup on friendfeed so i only had to create a handful of imaginary ones.
- (jeff)isageek
yeah protected accounts can cause an issue as well. as you know already :)
- (jeff)isageek
Yes Mark I agree, one thing FF could do to help people migrate from Twitter is a one-step process to turn all your Twitter followers who are not also on FF into Imaginary friends. A solution to the locked twitter accounts would also be useful although I don't have any of them. It also slightly annoys me that when you post on FF the copy sent to twitter has a FF link at the end. Anyway of disabling that?
- By_tor
So irritated with the assumption that gay = child molester. I like GROWN. ASS. MEN. (with good credit-- Daddy wants to buy a house.)
Kamilah Reed (K. Gill), David Cook, Live4Emma (L4S) and 47 other people liked this
Or that gay also means anal rapist. Or that somehow your sexuality is going to INFECT an otherwise decent heterosexual. Ridiculous.
- Akiva
Or that *we* want to bone *you*. We don't.
- Derrick
yeah blanket statements like that suck
- (jeff)isageek
It's the equivalent of me thinking white man = serial killer or rapist. I just adore ignorant people.
- Anika
derrick you dont? damn!! :)
- (jeff)isageek
I know that I, for one, am constantly vigilant, lest I catch the gay. /ignorant bigotry
- Bren
Nick, that is true. http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow...
- Rochelle
And why would I haphazardly pursue a straight man? What are we gonna do, besides nervously stand there at our sexual impasse? Some of my best friends are straight...lol.
- Derrick
Not only are most child molesters straight, but they are also usually known to the family as close friends, relatives or authority figures.
- Anika
as disturbing as this sounds, I remember reading somewhere that child molesters psychologically classify in their own separate category of sexual orientation, and in their case being straight or gay is a subcategory....TMI?
- andi
Kristin, child molesters might try their best to claim us...we sure as hell don't claim them.
- Derrick
Derrick, you can babysit any time. I wouldn't even put up a Nannycam. :)
- Louis Gray
OMG Derrick. We have to talk next time you visit. Ask me about why the Catholic church had and wasted an opportunity to help reduce child molestation. It has to do with an understandable higher incidence due to factors like "convenient place to hide" and "naive assumptions about the 3rd drive" and "permanent sexual adolescence" - the joke being of course any perceived or real increase...
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- Richard Walker
I kind of wish someone with the opinion that "gays are child molesters" would show up in this thread and explain that viewpoint. I just don't get it and I'm curious about the basis of their opinion.
- Rochelle
Do you really hear stuff like this ? Incredible.
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Akiva - are you you trying to deny the base truth that we *are* trying to make everyone gay. It's point #4 on the agenda.
- Sparky, lurking
Glad to, Christopher. http://www.hulu.com/watch...
- Bill Bittner
*dead* on "Daddy wants to buy a house"... just *dead*
- MoTO Bott
It actually makes sense to me that ignorant people would connect homosexuality with something so heinous. They're dumb.
- Rah-PM 2012
Child molesters are neither gay or straight... they are just fuckheads
- Johnny
++Johnny. My gay friends are more loyal than my straight friends, and I worry more about my straight friends sexually abusing children.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
I got into a heated argument with an old friend and his wife over dinner a few years back. The wife brought up the same assumption and it made me sick. I just hope more & more people become enlightened over time....
- Peter Ghosh
Peter, based on what? I just don't get it.
- Rochelle
The wife seemed to think all gay people are deviants of some sort. She refused to accept that they are not evil. Ruined my fucking meal....
- Peter Ghosh
I think I would have walked out.
- Rochelle
LOL - it was at my house. Needless to say, she hasn't been over since (4+ years).
- Peter Ghosh
The type of people that believe gay guys are, in their words "sick", are idiots. Idiots tend to want to apply all sorts of bad adjectives to people they don't understand so they don't have to see reality, that it's more likely to be their "straight and normal" brother or uncle, or even themselves that is the sick freak that would be attacking kids.
- Alisha Vargas
Can I super-like this? Hilarious.
- Shawn Farner
The couple were also Evangelicals. One of the many reasons why those storefront churches scare the crap out of me.
- Peter Ghosh
I can't stand gay people with their laughing and making merry. Give me melancholy or morose ANYDAY. No one should be that fucking happy.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Im also irritated with the assumption that gay =being attracted to 20 or 30 something circuit boys.Its always been the older masculine men for me.
- james
Yes, Trish...thanks for that. Also, 1UP James. I'd be perfectly happy and content dating someone who sold insurance or was a butcher. I'm not scared off by a tummy or thinning hair in the slightest.
- Derrick
People like to throw religion into the mix, but what if you're not religious? Or don't follow their religion? How are you damned to hell if you don't believe in it?
- Derrick
Wow. No words.
- Mona Nomura
Derrick, unfortunately, some people believe that their religion is the only right one. Shrug off the immature, delusional, ignorant, hate filled ranting of people such as those. Walk your own path and be true to you...there is no other way to live. :)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Those religious people sure will be sorry when the Flying Spaghetti Monster imparts its justice.
- Jason Wehmhoener
A couple made a deal that whoever died first would come back and inform the other of the after life. The woman's biggest fear was that there was no heaven. After a long life the husband was the first to go and true to his word he made contact. "Mary... Mary.... " "Is that you Fred?" "Yes, I have come back like we agreed." "What is it like?" "Well, I get up in the morning, I have sex, I...
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- Jason Wehmhoener
Derrick, I hear that nearly every week on a debate forum I belong to. The other frequent misconception; being gay (or bi, or lesbian...) is a choice. Evidently everyone is born straight and at some point you have to choose to be otherwise. Evidently when it was my time to choose, I couldn't decide. "Gay or straight, boys or girls?" I've found that frequently people who believe these...
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- Jack&Cleo
I see sexuality as a sort of continuum that you're on, rather than a choice. I'm straight, so I'm on a different part of the continuum than where a gay man would be. It's hard to articulate, because there's probably many factors, and I have no idea what a gay person feels inside. Perhaps it's one big continuum for both genders from extreme masculinity to extreme femininity?
- Rick Cogley
Rick I believe you're spot on with sexuality as a continuum...not everyone is truly 100% straight or gay in all likelihood, but I don't think masculinity or femininity have much to do with it; I'm pretty damn masculine but yet figure myself to be in that 90th percentile when it comes to gay. And I know some very seriously straight men who come off rather feminine.
- Derrick
Back to the original topic that Derrick set. Those of you who can read italian, should look this one: http://www.articolo21.info/8498... Local politicians charged a public library In Genova with "spread of pedopornographic material". Reason: they held a event for families (kids AND their parents), with books and readings. The event was...
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Tweetvisor - The Online Alternative to Tweetdeck - http://techgeist.net/2009...
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I use it every day now. I used to use iTweet's (from Rah's recommendation) but Rah recommended Tweetvisor a little later. :-) It's far easier to create groups in Tweetvisor than in TweetDeck.
- Kol Tregaskes
this becomes tough and confusing. some twitter stars say seesmic desktop is superior, others don't want to give up on tweetdeck, now there is tweetvisor. Sigh. cannot google move in and replace it all with one Uber Interface? :)
- roland legrand
I think it's important to just go with whatever client suits your needs. All clients have something slightly different and all have their pros and cons. Folks shouldn't be obsessed with which client is "best" as its a very subjective area.
- Richard Barley
Tweetvisor is asking me to log in, so they have my password? My twitter password is unique (no not the word unique) so if it's ever compromised all other accounts are ok. I suppose I'll try it....
- Mike Nencetti
the application takes 30 seconds to a minute to load.....zzzzzzz
- Mike Nencetti
+! Richard What works very well for some people won't work at all for others. (and roland, you should read Jesse Stay's blog post on using Gmail as a Twitter client http://staynalive.com/article... )
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Works great on FireFox although interferes w/ Ubiquity if using it in same window. It's got a ton of great features. Didn't want to load in Safari 4 though and I'm running 20mbps/20mbps fios connection.
- Mike Elliott
The TImes asks experts a good question today - Is there such a thing as overuse of social networking tools? http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
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Is Social Media Making Corporate Websites Irrelevant? - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Enterprise 2.0 Needs a FriendFeed writes @tacanderson http://www.newcommbiz.com/enterpr... Connectbeam, Socialcast, CubeTree, Yammer? APIs + RSS
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why not just use friendfeed for it?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Wondering how important behind-the-firewall is here. When I was at Connectbeam, that was often an important consideration for big companies.
- Hutch Carpenter
in today's enterprise, many it groups are considering external providers so the "firewall" is just becoming a comfort level w/ "security" of connections - can be internal or external but internal comes w/ lots of other costs to support and maintain - better tco to outsource to a service provider - that being said i do not think the "average worker" (whatever that means) is ready for friendfeed unfortunately...
- mike "glemak" dunn
i wish the enterprise was ready for friendfeed btw hutch :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I would also speculate it's an issue of company culture. Not too many in the upper tier of major corporations would be comfortable having their entire activity stream propagated everywhere. It's perhaps possible they can opt-out or limit their stream somehow, but it must be done in a way that assures rest of company still maintains buy-in for these tools.
- Matsis
Under no circumstances should enterprises trust the cloud with intellectual property or customer confidentiality and still remain "social". There's simply too much at stake.
- JCunwired
"Under no circumstances" - so everyone currently using outsourced services is wrong then, soa, saas, web services, syndicated services - all wrong, huh?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Streams are entering the enterprise with great success. We are providing these information cascades to enterprises with Socialcast to improve information flow and awareness across the entire organization. Behind the firewall is a major consideration when you start plugging into legacy data stores that already exist behind the firewall.
- Tim Young
Tim - is Socialcast behind the firewall (yeah, I guess I should go to your website...)?
- Hutch Carpenter
You can run it either SaaS or behind the firewall. Most companies start on SaaS to test and then contact us to move it behind the firewall.
- Tim Young
Mike, the enterprise is ready for a friendfeed esq system. May be internally for the mainstream ones but the same concept. This is old but here it is anyway: http://bit.ly/14UlOd
- Sameer
sameer: good post thanks
- mike "glemak" dunn
The Tasteful Thickness Of Your Free Google Profile Business Card - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"Google is now giving away 10,000 sets of business cards to people that have one. The deal, in partnership with iPrint.com, is being promoted with a huge link at the top of Google Profile pages. The link reads, “New! Order profile business cards to tell your friends about your profile.” Click on the link and you’ll be taken to an ordering page."
- edythe
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Offer not valid in Hawaii. -1 iPrint
- Bill Sodeman
Thanks Edythe
- Russellreno
TwitterGadget added some image features. You can now upload pics from within the app.
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Celebrities Take Over Twitter, Kick Geeks Aside - http://www.businessinsider.com/celebri...
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"As Twitter grows up, one of the best examples of its becoming mainstream is how widely and quickly real-life celebrities have latched onto the service, pushing Twitter's early heroes -- Internet-famous-types and tech journalists -- aside."
- Kol Tregaskes
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Not really. I'm not on the popularity bandwagon, and don't sub to TV celebs pining for attention on Twitter like angsty teens. No Britney, Oprah or Kutcher here. Scoble and iJustine are value for me.
- Mo Kargas
I'm with Mo.
- Mark Traphagen
Interesting mix there :)
- Charlie Anzman
Very. Scoble offers the most value here, as Mo points out.
- Roberto Bonini
Uhm, you just unfollow them? Or better yet, don't follow them in the first place.
- Yuvi
Yuvi -- the joke is Twitter is either broken or corrupt -- you can't unfollow them.
- Brian Sullivan
Maybe I'm missing something, but they bleat out their stuff just like anyone else. It's a 'status updater'. I very rarely have conversations on Twitter because it sucks for that. I'll either move it to email, Plurk or give up. Why crap on famous people who are using the service the same way all the geek-famous have been?
- Anika
Here Before Oprah.com - hee - http://herebeforeoprah.com/
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i'm glad someone had the quick thinking to nab this domain. ha.
- edythe
Wow, this is going to be very viral for a few days. After I did it about 5 of my followers did too, LOL.
- Eric Florenzano
did it
- Rahul Das
Its probably just a simple webpage without any calls to the Twitter API to see if a username exists or whether it actually did exist before oprah.
- Rahul Das
Try putting in Oprah :)
- Eric Florenzano
10 Youtube URL Tricks You Should Know About - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...
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Highdef scoreboard at Citi Field - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Are the elderly more technologically plugged in than doctors? http://www.kevinmd.com/blog...
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baby mammoths - a near-perfect frozen mammoth resurfaces after 40,000 years, bearing clues to a great vanished species - http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009...
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On a May morning in 2007, on the Yamal Peninsula in northwestern Siberia, a Nenets reindeer herder named Yuri Khudi stood with three of his sons on a sandbar on the Yuribey River, holding council over a diminutive corpse. Though they'd never seen such an animal before, they knew it well from stories their people sang on dark winter nights in their storytelling lodges. This was a baby mamont, the beast the Nenets say wanders the frozen blackness of the underworld, herded by infernal gods just as the Nenets herd their reindeer across the tundra. Khudi had seen many mammoth tusks, the honey-colored, corkscrew shafts as thick as tree limbs that his people found each summer. But he had never seen an entire animal, let alone one so eerily well preserved. Apart from its missing hair and toenails, it was perfectly intact.
- Cee Bee
On this day in 1937, Daffy Duck appeared for the first time in "Porky's Duck Hunt".
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I would like friend feed to automatically be able to create imaginary friends out of all my facebook friends.
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And not only FB, and able to detect those imaginary friends who are already on FF...
- Rodericus
Dear Hulu: TV.COM and BOXEE made it easier for me to find your content. They are not your competition; bittorrent is. You have to make it easier to watch the shows you make available then it is to pirate them
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for the last few weeks, other then the news and LOST, I have been watching all my TV through boxee
- Sean Reiser
WIth Google Killing Products, Is Reader Next? - http://www.micropersuasion.com/2009...
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I hope not. It's a convenient, reasonably functional way to check on my fav feeds. I don't always want to launch a separate client for that. Hop back to my Gmail tab, select Reader and I'm good to go. I also like full feed readers and ones that show images and clickable video links.
- Jack&Cleo
2 syllables: FeedDemon
- Glenn Slaven
I can boil this down simply: if it's not core search or part of Google Apps or currently monetized, it's at risk or at minimum will be monetized.
- Steve Rubel
feed demon is three syllables.
- Scot Mcphee
FeedDemon: 3 syllables. I won't mind going back to NetNewsWire. Also 3 syllables.
- Graham English
oh, and yeah, google reader is awesome. unfortunately i reckon they will monetise it no matter what blogs think. they could include their ads in a way that doesn't stop people advertising in their feeds. e.g. a side bar, like in gmail.
- Scot Mcphee
d'oh!, my point still stands!
- Glenn Slaven
Data, data, data. GReader may not be directly monetized but you bet they are mining the attention data just as Ask is mining Bloglines attention data. Lots of juice tidbits in there to support behavioral targeting for example and than some. With nearly 70% of the RSS reader market share, GReader is here to stay.
- Bill Flitter
No way
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
@Ed but they will need to monetize it. Maybe Flitter can help.
- Steve Rubel
@Bill but within a small market. Why not push it broader?
- Steve Rubel
@Steve. Agreed. But I think it's a core property. I can't remember the fine print, but I think they can data mine Reader same as Gmail, correct?
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ike from the blog's comments is right, and I'd like to hear more on what he thinks will happen.
- Chris Charabaruk
Steve. Not sure I understand your comment, "But within a small market. Why not push it broader?"
- Bill Flitter
Short version: "No."
- Jeff
Note that last comment is from a senior Google exec.
- Steve Rubel
Thank gawd, I love Reader, it's easily the best aggregation tool I've used, and I've used lots. The new design was great, the mobile versions are great, it works great as an Web App in Chrome, and I can only see it getting better.
- Will Higgins™
Nope, Reader is my inbox for RSS feeds. They wouldn't kill it because I need/use it would they? =)
- B2B Specialist
Google Reader is basic for my online activity: icurrently use it not only to keep in sync with my feeds but also as a blogging platform (i've got a blog post about this if you want more details: http://mirkofm.tumblr.com/post...). Moreover, its mobile interface is huge and i will definitely miss it if they're putting it aside.
- mirko
I am disappointed that Notebook is not going any further. I use it all the time when researching things and for organizing notes for meetings.
- Kevin Shannon
I kept away from Evernote because of Google Notebook, it had enough functionality for my needs... I will have to reconsider Evernote.
- Claudio Calligaris
For those of you with too many notes to count...you can export them to Google Docs. Tools / Export to Google Docs.
- Claudio Calligaris
They do monetize it indirectly through feedburner and adsense for feeds - the more users they get reading feeds the more will see those ads. Plus Reader is so heavily tied into iGoogle that it barely makes sense to look at them as two products.
- Eric P
I don't think google reader will broaden it's audience unless it provides some additional ways to view the posts that are independent of which feeds it's in.
- Shawn McCollum
I don't care for Google reader and I can't like it. But the end of the developing of Notebook was the worst news of this year for me. I used it every day, many times to save links to post and I couldn't find anything as good as it for me. That's really sad and none of their suggestions have the same features or usability as it.
- Bibi
Feedly is the future of Reader.
- Kevin Gamble
I agree with Bill, Reader is a goldmine of attention data. It may not directly generate revenue, but it is still valuable to Google. Google could also choose to directly monetize it. It wouldn't be too hard to throw contextual ads into the interface without being disruptive. And lastly, I'm not sure it's the future of Reader, but Feedly is pretty cool, and getting cooler all the time.
- Robert Clockedile
A "like" feature is coming to Facebook - a la Friendfeed. - http://www.allfacebook.com/2009...
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copying Friendfeed is a crime! this will be very interesting
- Susan Beebe
I want like buttons everywhere. Ravelry got me hooked with the interesting/educational/love/agree/disagree buttons, so between there and FF, I'm constantly looking for my buttons.
- Lix
They can copy the features, but they can't copy the teams brains. I mean Zuckerberg.... Come on. He only gotten were he is now by luck. Facebook doesn't have the right DNA. If there's any talent there, they'll move to other companies. Keep in mind that FF is founded by ex-googlers. GOOG has same problem, albeit less so.
- Meryn Stol
Didn't they do this and then yank it? Now it's coming back? Facebook is just so dreary.
- AJ Kohn
Not sure it will have the same impact in that format as it has here.
- Martha
Can FF get a copyright/patent on 'Like' quick ???
- Charlie Anzman
Methinks Facebook has been copying FriendFeed for a while now.
- Tanath
+1 Tanath - true! FB's threaded comment system is similar to FF - sorta :)
- Susan Beebe
They didn't start adding the ability to import services either until FriendFeed started getting popular.
- Tanath
lame.
- karl dotter
Facebook is definitely starting to look alot like FriendFeed.
- Jaica Kinsman
Excited!! I got to see NY City for the first time in my life today!! (flying into Newark, NJ airport) I was *completely* stunned. It is NOTHING like LA. It is truly overwhelming, very impressive -- took my breath away. The Statute of Liberty is neat too! She's really green color from the air.
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Since I am staying here for 2 weeks, I am thinking of venturing into the City on the weekend and Monday 1/19, since I get that day off as a holiday!! (scared and yet totally curious!)
- Susan Beebe
Welcome to NY. New Yorkers only act like assholes, but trust me they really are not, and they don't bite.
- Mike Fruchter
You've never been to NYC but live in Rochester?!? I'm blown away! I absolutely love NYC.
- Moushumi Kabir
Head to the Times Square area and enjoy the scenery. Goto china town for some delicious Chinese food. Head over to little Italy for dinner. Make sure you catch you a Broadway play as well.
- Mike Fruchter
And to Harlem and the village for jazz, assuming you enjoy jazz. Broadway is the theater district.
- Moushumi Kabir
Little Italy and China Town are next to each other...another place to check out.
- Moushumi Kabir
Subway remains a nightmare, so, I'd stick to yellow cab...they are decent regardless of their rep.
- Moushumi Kabir
I was tempted to take a long layover in Newark just to go see NYC. Been to Tokyo and Singapore and really enjoyed wandering a bit in those cities. Detroit's close, but just doesn't have that appeal (maybe because it's one of the most dangerous cities in the nation - right up there with the city I live in).
- Kevin L
Kevin, did you like Singapore? I lived in the Midwest, Madison, and like you was not motivated to visit though I'd like to now. My dream is to go on a road trip. I've never been to one and I think it will be a lot of fun.....And, that's why I like FF...edit!
- Moushumi Kabir
We should meet!
- Steve Rubel
Glen, a year in one month? :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
Awww, Susan. You sound like me the first time I saw NYC (flew into LaGuardia). Have fun sightseeing. I still have never been there.
- Anika
What? You live upstate but never been to Manhattan? How far away is this... upstate place?
- Mona Nomura
I miss NYC!
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
I do too, Jeff. If not for the cold, I'd be so living there.
- Moushumi Kabir
I can taste Papaya King right now
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
I've never been to NY. You forgot to pick me up on your way there!
- imabonehead
NYC is like it's own country. So different
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
Welcome to NYC Susan! Mm, I think the Statue's pretty green these days no matter which way you look at her from. =)
- ronin
it is beautiful, yes.
- edythe
Mona, it's about a 5 hour drive from Syracuse, so a little longer from Rochester I'd say
- Deepak Singh
Moushumi, yes, Singapore is a *fine* city (a little Singaporean humor there). I've been a few times, and it's a fascinating place. In Tokyo I only went to Akihabara (electronics district) during a 10-hour layover at Narita. So worth it for a geek like me. I was drooling over the assortment of gadgetry and components available.
- Kevin L
I lived in the city for a few years and in the NYC metro area for another 13 years so it's meh to me.
- Morton Fox
Syracuse... Syracuse... OH! They have the orange and green uniforms! Is that anywhwere near the buffalo wing city? (totally kidding - just in case) Susan - Manhattan is awesome. And please don't eat any dirty water dogs... Shake Shack or Crif Dog ftw!
- Mona Nomura
It's 1.5-2 hrs flight, Rochester - NYC.
- Moushumi Kabir
I'm getting the hang of it. Next time I'm at some place I should twitter/FF. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
Mona - Crif Dog? Papaya King FTW!!
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
Papaya King? Gross!
- Mona Nomura
Kevin, glad you liked it. It's my country/city. Yes, Akihabara is the place to visit in Tokyo for a geek. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
@Mona - haaha! it's total touristy, but i love that place
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
One of the truly magical places in the world
- Duncan Riley
personally would skip chinatown and little italy. i'd get pizza. either that or a reservation at Per Se. but you don't have to kill anybody to get pizza.
- Karim
I got hungry and stepped out for dinner and this thread is AWESOME! Remember, I just moved to NY in 2000. I grew up in Huntington Beach, graduated from UCLA law school (also took C programming at CalPoly SLO), Cuesta, Alan Hancock and GoldenWest college...most of my life has been in CA. But I am super intrigued by NYC today... just wow! And Steve Rubel - yes, I'd love to meet you! you too Mona!!!!!! wooo hooo! You guys have Monday holiday off??
- Susan Beebe
lol, Karim. You wouldn't get shot in Little Italy, only a myth. China Town has best dim sum. But, I agree with pizza...by the slice.
- Moushumi Kabir
lol no i wasn't implying that Little Italy was dangerous -- rather that a reservation at Per Se was impossible to get, i.e. you have to kill someone who already has a reservation and take their place -- though, if I remember correctly, Mona has eaten there :-) there are great chinese places and great italian places everywhere... but you can only get real pizza in NY :-D
- Karim
ahhh. Best pizza is in Brooklyn side though. But, you are right gotta have pizza if you're in NYC for only a day. And a little jazz. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
lol
- Cee Bee
If you want to visit Fast Company's offices on 29th floor of the new World Trade Center building email me at scobleizer@gmail.com -- stunning views of NYC and ground zero.
- Robert Scoble
There is simply nothing like NYC. Glad you finally got there Susan
- Charlie Anzman
I'm going to NYC for the 1st time this month. Besides taking Scoble up on his offer is there anything else that's a "must see"?
- Tac Anderson
Wow, Susan, glad you finally made it to the Big Apple! Don't forget Central Park or the Staten Island ferry (free) for the experience. I'm half a mile away from WTC so if you want to meet up, let me know.
- Sally Church
There is a breakfast meeting this Thursday in Midtown if anyone is interested: Social Media Breakfast NYC - Jan 15, 2009 8:30am -10:30am - http://bit.ly/38JarF
- Sally Church
My recommendation for pizza is Totonno's in Coney Island. "Only God makes better pizza" according to their web site, and that's not far off.
- Tom Harrison
It really is a completely different animal as far as cities go. Hope you enjoy your time!
- Martha
New York is such an amazing place. So happy that you are there experiencing it right now Susan. Someday I want to live there. It may be my favorite city in the world. Truly spectacular and larger than life. Here's my photoset "Reflections on Manhattan," lots of ideas for things to see: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Thomas Hawk
Welcome!
- bcultral
Thomas, reminds me of "Manhattan Reflections" by Ahmad Jamal :)
- directeur
I love New York.
- Meryn Stol
Here is a little Frank Sinatra, New York New York - http://www.last.fm/music...
- Moushumi Kabir
Robert - Hell ya! THANK YOU! I am touched by your generosity! thanks! I'd like to visit. This week is nutty, so next week, probably Wed afternoon or Thursday. I'll email you. I may drive over there on the weekend and 1/19 - holiday. Is FastCompay.TV open on 1/19? that would be perfect!~
- Susan Beebe
Sally -- Hell ya! I'd love to meet up with you in NYC! Anyone else wanna meetup?!
- Susan Beebe
There's nothing like NYC. Have a blast!
- Jeremy Brooks
Anyone know of a good Helicopter service? I want a tour of NYC by air.
- Susan Beebe
Welcome to NYC, Susan! Best city in the states. :) I think I went on this helicopter tour 4 or 5 years ago and it was pretty great (although, if you can swing it - make sure you're in the front passenger seat - that's got the best views. :) http://is.gd/fMpu
- felix
cool! I am excited about that too :)
- Susan Beebe
xFruits - Compose your information system - http://www.xfruits.com/
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RSS tools
- @jessewright
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I have been using this for a few months, and I absolutely enjoy it. So much info hits my desk via these RSS feed machine.
- Bryan R. Adams
Revealed: the environmental impact of Google searches - Times Online - http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
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Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research. Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres. However, with more than 200m internet searches estimated globally daily, the electricity consumption and greenhouse gas emissions caused by computers and the internet is provoking concern. A recent report by Gartner, the industry analysts, said the global IT industry generated as much greenhouse gas as the world’s airlines - about 2% of global CO2 emissions. “Data centres are among the most energy-intensive facilities imaginable,” said Evan Mills, a scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Banks of servers storing billions of web pages require power.
- Leo Laporte
wow! This is something that I never even really thought about...i have seen a couple of "geen" hosting companies pop up recently but never thought twice about them....but now, green computing could be huge!!
- Anthony Feint
Palease! Ridiculous.
- Jim Bednarz
Not that ridiculous. Concerning, especially if the machines start using us for batteries...
- Eugene Huo
My question exactly, what is the aim here. Regulation perhaps? That's the ticket, just like the auto industry we can install power limiters on PCs and network gear. Heat output restrictions. How about acceptable usage hours? Perhaps Google should operate only from 9pm to 4am. Maybe we should all just agree to limit our Google searches to 2 per day, unless you drink tea, in which case you'll need to make a trip to the library.
- Glupidio VanHosen
Isn't this awareness already radically pushing innovations in data center technology? Or at least beginning to. If there was no recognition among the community that they need to reduce the energy footprint, it was one thing, but there is.
- Deepak Singh
Oh wait, this article is just a promotion piece for Dude's website, he's selling green badges and stats. Good PR move these days for web companies I suppose, but the biggest improvements in data center efficiency will be driven by the corporate desire for a smaller electric bill.
- Glupidio VanHosen
Old news too... this has been in the news in NL (at least) a year ago already...
- Egon Willighagen
FYI, from the Google Blog's response (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...): "In terms of greenhouse gases, one Google search is equivalent to about 0.2 grams of CO2," not the 7 grams stated in that article.
- Tom Stocky
Great marketing technique by co2stats, make a ridiculous character assassination on a big name target and watch those hits fly in.
- Bjorn Stromberg
If one search averages out to 0.2g CO2, then note that burning a gallon of gas (which most people do every day) releases 9kg of CO2, or enough for 45,000 Google searches. Seems like that might be the real problem.
- Joe Knapp
I really hate IM. People get on there and ask me how I'm doing. What a lame way to start a conversation.
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Isn't that what Twitter asks? *teehee*
- Bwana ☠
MSN Messenger. Now do you get why Twitter has taken over my world?
- Robert Scoble
Twitter doesn't demand an answer to such a stupid question.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Neither does IM.
- Ken Sheppardson
@Scobleizer... but really. How are you doing?
- Enrique Gutierrez
Funny, Twitter demands an answer from me...or maybe that's just the addiction
- Bwana ☠
Almost as bad as "Who are you?". Kidding! : )
- Mike Doeff
what do you recommend saying when starting a conversation then?
- Ahmed
Bwana: yes, but Twitter does it in a scalable way. On IM I have to answer that question over and over and over and over and over and over. Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh.....
- Robert Scoble
This is why I almost never open any IM client other than Skype. Skype doesn't seem to get that kind of boring garbage.
- MarkCarras
Ahmed: say something like "I have something cool to show you, do you have time?"
- Robert Scoble
How are you doing today, Robert? ;-D
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
@Scoble - What's a better way to start start a conversation? "Hey Robert...you smell" ? :)
- Justin Korn
Or, "I am starting a company and need some PR advice that I can't ask for on Twitter, can I get a minute of your time here?"
- Robert Scoble
How are you doing?
- Ben
LOL, Robert cracks me up
- Bwana ☠
Seems like reasonable IM protocol to me robert, maybe you're thinking about the tool the wrong may? Or I am!
- Richard Anderson
"What are you doing" <-----worst. question. EVER!
- Mona Nomura
But what happens when you don't have anything to show the other person and you just want to talk business/get to know new people better?
- Ahmed
Personally, I don't set my IM client to show online/offline/idle.. it's always on. I screen/defer IM messages just like I do phone calls, email, or any other source of interruptions.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm confused, I always thought asking how someone was doing was a nice polite way to start a conversation... I didn't realize so many people took such offense. Not everyone has to speak about news and tech every second of the day. A simple, "Hi, how are things? How are the wife and kids?" doesn't sound bad. Or maybe I am missing part of this conversation. Anyway, I am not much of a fan of IM either, but I don't see anything wrong with saying "How are you doing?"
- Dennis Jackson
Yeah, I'd hate it so much if people cared enough about me to ask about my day/life/wellbeing.
- Caleb Cherry
Richard: it is the WORST way to introduce yourself to someone new on IM. Get to the point and tell me what the fuck you want to know. My brother can get away with such a lame start. No one else can. It's why I don't usually turn on my MSN Messenger.
- Robert Scoble
It's considered manners to ask the person you are starting to chat to how they are, before going on to subjects like weather, rugby, etc. before getting started on what you really want to chat about.
- Jacques
I think the point is that we are busy and people need to just get to the point. This is work and the cliche greetings just slow us down.
- MarkCarras
Oh, maybe you meant from like a stranger. I was kind of thinking a close relative, or close friend. That's the only reason I still use IM is to chat with family and close friends. So, I understand where you are coming from.
- Dennis Jackson
I always forget to do that bit 9the polite how are you)..usually just jumping straight into the question. Unless it's with the 1 or 2 where we do just exchange inanities regularly.
- Rachel Clarke
I'd really like to go audit a "Business Communications" course at a first tier university these days and see what they're teaching. Do they teach "business IM"? How to compose email? How to leave voicemail?
- Ken Sheppardson
So, how are you, Robert? :-p
- amygeek
Yeah... you might accidentally start talking about THEIR needs.
- Marc
IM almost gone from my workflow. Twitter direct message for past IM-type discussions and back to IRC for team collaboration.
- Bill Rice
Chris (Luckhardt) IM has its place - one on one conversations, private conversations. More people have an IM than are on the other services, so far easier to use for many
- Rachel Clarke
Dennis: that doesn't work for someone with a high public visibility. If you read my friendfeed you know all that shit anyway. It just marks you as horribly clueless from the start.
- Robert Scoble
@Bwana No, Twitter asks "What", and that can be a lot more interesting! :~))
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Dennis: exactly. Close friends and family are fine to do that kind of talk with. But everyone else? It just wastes time and frustrates me. That's the kind of stuff that Facebook is great for.
- Robert Scoble
Caleb: if 50 strangers ask you the same question you'd get frustrated too. They don't really give a f**k about you. They are IM'ing you to get something from you.
- Robert Scoble
Marc: I love helping people get what they want. But it's the noise that is lame. It keeps me from using services. This one guy right now went back and forth with me. Turned out he wanted me to see his email. Just get to the freaking point. Geesshhh.
- Robert Scoble
Common courtesy need not die for expedience, does it?
- Mike Mackley
Robert - ok, if you don't know the person and you're looking to save time, I'd go with your"FFS get on with it" protocol, but, it does sound like a bad tool to use for your needs. IM is good for one to one / privacy / non-noise in my books.
- Richard Anderson
Jason: I apologize. It's just that I turned on MSN Messenger, got a ton of really lame interchanges. Pissed me off. And I'm venting.
- Robert Scoble
this is a freak'in hillarious dialog. I 'spose the reason some may not understand Scoble's position is they haven't yet seen the "global" nature of viral networking. On the other hand, I can understand why some people might not get it.
- Jim Sparrow
I only use Messenger to tell my daughter when dinner's ready.
- Nicola Quinn
Richard: yes. It's a horrible tool for someone with hundreds of strangers. FriendFeed and Twitter are taking over our lives for EXACTLY this reason. Now I can tell you all I'm pissed off once. Imagine if you all IM'ed me. I'd have to repeat it 30 times. :-)
- Robert Scoble
How about an IM spam filter? rejects lame text and you can define it...sounds like a good fit for you :)
- Richard Anderson
yeah i try and stay away from it, or just leave up a perpetual away message directing people to one of my URLs
- Adam Singer
empty the glass man... empty the glass
- Bwana ☠
Robert, if I ask you how you are doing today, I actually mean it. I was raised to use "How are you" as one general conversation starter, but to never ask the question if I did not care what the response is. :)
- Robert Miller
would u prefer them to ask you what u are wearing?
- Joshua
Jason: yup, exactly. It's why I don't even use IM anymore. Anyway, when I talk with a stranger I don't pretend to care about their family, or their lives. It's rude. You don't start a conversation at a cocktail party like that. You get to a point "Hey, Jim over there told me I should talk to you about your new business." or "Louis said you have some new kids and that you're looking for playdates."
- Robert Scoble
Robert: it's one thing to ask that after you are familiar with someone and friends. Then I'll understand the context and why you want to know. But to IM someone out of the blue and ask them? It's a waste of time and rude.
- Robert Scoble
Bwana: this is how I stay sane in an insane world! :-) Most people just block people like that.
- Robert Scoble
Good day sir, I hope this day finds you well. That is all.
- Andrew Smith
I can see how being a personality can make it hard to wade through the clutter. When I work with CEOs we don't spend a lot of time on pleasantries - I see your point.
- Marc
IMHO, if all you want to talk about is how somebody's feeling, great, ask how they're doing. If you just want to say hello, just say hello, but if you actually want something, say so right up front, without requiring syn/ack/syn/ack/... e.g. "Hi Robert, how are you? I was wondering if you might be able to help me by X, Y or Zing"
- Ken Sheppardson
The problem with instant messenger is that people think it is some kind of branch of normal conversation. You do not have to introduce yourself -- That's what your profile is for. I agree with Robert, just get to the point already. Unless I know you I don't want to spend ten minutes talking about the weather.
- John Bellone
I second that John Bellone!
- MarkCarras
Set up your IM with an automatic answer: What can I do you for? <- works great
- @LarsenTweet
How about "Very busy. Did you need something? I don't have time to chit chat."
- MarkCarras
I just got turned onto Twitter, I like it because it's more focused, more intimate and I can find like minded people in the subjects I like. It reminds me of a cross between IM (kept for family, friends and some clients when they need help) and Email Lists. This past week has seen me posting more on my blog because of Twitter. I also like it because it's short and sweet,I don't have to think too hard or get the code right, I just type away. I have just signed up for FF after following convo's to here.
- Tina Clarke
MacGirogia: I think that instant messenger is a little more intimate than posting on friendfeed.
- John Bellone
I wholeheartedly agree. Granted, if you're friends, that's different. But people that I rarely talk to and play 20 questions with me (I did this the other night), I just think, "Ok, why don't you just say 'so can you do this for me?'" I'm so used to it by now.
- Zach Flauaus
I agree with Jason H here. Building rapport is a lost art in this world and a simple "I am doing fine, how can I help you?" will suffice. If I ever need to IM Robert, I will be sure to get right to the point. I prefer IM to twitter, b/c it is more personal and closed. Note: I do not have a ton of followers yet though.
- Amani
I hate IM too--haven't used it in years, literally. And when I did use it, it was for work...sometimes we would all be working on a project together but be in different rooms (or different states) and it was an easy way to get information.
- Kelly W.
I cant live without MSN Messenger..
- @LarsenTweet
DO YOU KNOW- what bothers me more?? When I show good info to "A-list" folks, or engage in interesting discussion, and they don't bother responding(But often take the nugget or news I shared and retweet or even blog it with No attribution or nod)
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
IM is turning into a protoco, XMPP is taking off. Mayby people will move with the medium
- Alex Kessinger
from Alert Thingy
I agree. Even if it's superficial chit chat, at least make it interesting!
- timedalkat
from twhirl
surprised you still use it
- BEX
Hey Robert, how are you doing?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Mark: the thing that got me mad this morning is I tried to say I was busy, what do you need, and he didn't get the point and kept trying to make small talk. Aaarrrrgggghhhh. John is right. Get to the point. The new polite is to be impolite. After we share a beer and a meal then let's pull out the baby photos and talk about the weather and the mall trip we're doing this afternoon and all that! :-)
- Robert Scoble
If I run into you here in Vegas, I am still going to have to ask you how you are doing. It's just how I was raised.
- Josh Haley
Alex: I'm doing really freaking great. We're going to the mall to buy some snow boots for Davos and Milan is running around doing his happy dance. I gotta film that and post it for all of you. It's hillarious. Life is good and it's nice to be home from Vegas. Also, my computer is running like new again now that it has Windows 7. People are going to like this if they are Windows users.
- Robert Scoble
Robert I agree if that's where it's going anyway, and only where it's going: respect my minutes- don't spend them for selfish reasons. HOWEVER- last year we were reaming folks for just asking for favors without so much as a "how are you" so, they may be 'there'. I'm looking for both; at least some real friendship with folks I have any business/commercial contact with. And being disabled, and a full time single dad of 3, I'm not getting to 15 conferences a year like a lot of you :(
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ed: I don't mind building a friendship but the stuff I am talking about isn't that. They want something and the chit chat is fake.
- Robert Scoble
I only ask "how are you doing" to start an IM conversation if I've not heard from the person in a long time. Usually if I start a conversation on IM it's to inform someone about something, or get them to do something for me. Niceties can be for phone or in-person meetings.
- Chris Charabaruk
You seem rude at all. If you don't want to chat, simply put yorself invisible and go away. You have options. And this comment is a fault of style and a fault of respect, imho. But, i agree, style is not required here.
- g.g.
Being a friend means not wasting your friend's time. That is what friendfeed is for! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I think in some ways that is just a way TO start a conversation..maybe just Human nature.
- Kreg Steppe
Then just say you hate fake people. I do too. End of issue.
- Josh Haley
Kreg: yup. Lots of people were taught it was polite to chit chat about the family and the weather. That stuff is still important but online with strangers it comes across as clueless and creepy. Anyway this is why Twitter and Facebook are taking off. Scalable chit chat. I only have to tell everyone once what is going on. On IM it is an "n-times" problem.
- Robert Scoble
Being a brother means annoying your brother whenever possible, just because you can...just remember it's all in love!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Josh: everyone fakes it at times. If you have a fight with your wife or kids are you likely to share that with a stranger? No. I hate the friction this stuff brings. There is something deeper here though. I will think about it at the mall and come back to this later.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert, How are you doing? ;-)
- scherbi: bottom dweller
I completely agree. I would never walk up to someone I'd never met before and ask how they were without at least introducing myself and explaining what I wanted. So why would I ever do that online?
- Tony Ruscoe
from fftogo
Tony: exactly. After we have some context and history then asking how my kid is makes a lot of sense. But not as opening line. It's a bit creepy, actually. Especially when a minute later I learn you really wanted me to do something for you. Plus, if you were really clued in and following friendfeed or twitter you'd have a much better opening line than that. "Glad you're home with your son from CES, I love seeing the photos you post about him." It might be fake but at least you've demonstrated you know me.
- Robert Scoble
You guys wouldn't last in the South. :) But I understand online is quite different.. but this brings up a good point. Are we seeing a culture clash online? The more and more we interact, the more likely we'll have to adapt. Hmmm.
- Bwana ☠
Down here, it's common courtesy to ask "How ya doin?" when you encounter a complete stranger, but that ain't so common in other cultures. I remember when I first started consulting, I got strange looks for being "so nice" :)
- Bwana ☠
Oh god I always start with How are you?
- Rob Brammeld
This strikes me as a very weird peeve. It's a very normal way to start a conversation - some variation of "hi", "hi" "How are you?" "Not bad you?" "Not bad - hey listen I was wondering..." is just about how all my conversations start. The "How are you" is a polite way of giving someone a chance to let you know they're busy or in a bad mood or otherwise can't talk before imposing on them with a question or thought or whatever.
- Eric P
I'm feeling that more often too.
- Meryn Stol
Rob and Bwana: those are appropriate starts when dealing with people you know, but on IM they are friction. I know that isn't the reason you are chatting with me so it starts the IM on a bad note.
- Robert Scoble
I think it's a culture thing for me, but I don't have thousands of followers, so your situation is obviously different. Keep the vent going, get it all out Robert :)
- Bwana ☠
This happens to me at work, where we all use IM. Huge company. IM is The way to contact people. When a co-worker friend says "Hi, how are you this morning?" I answer "Good? You?". But when my manager or a co-worker client, or someone I don't know (especially someone I don't know!) starts with "Hi, how are you?" I am, shall we say, suspicious. And I agree with Robert -- you want something from me. Please get to the point already.
- Vicki Brown
@Jason Heubel, but it's even ruder for some random to ask me "how I am" - as if they really care - then tell me what they're selling. Just get to the brass tacks. If it's not actually interesting to me it'll be ignored. There's nothing wrong with "hello scoble, here is a link to a great app i thought you might like ->" ... given it's robert's business to filter new apps for us.
- Scot Mcphee
Generally, I don't expect people to reply me after my greetings. The same goes vice versa. If people want something from me, they can say it. I "will" answer them whenever I have the time. Just because of that, I haven't replied any of my cousin's messages for months :) So for me, IM is no different than e-mails. It's just faster when there is a "conversation".
- Koray AI
I like starting with something very short that is essentially "Ping?" unless i know that the other person is someone like me that uses IM as short form email.
- Sam Pullara
Dealing with vendors and salespeople at the office is much of the same. They feign interest in your life, but really don't care and are just trying to get a sale. Cut the small talk and tell me what you are trying to sell me.
- Jim Bednarz
Sam: I love starting a conversation with "ping." I always answer "pong." Starting a conversation with a little short game like that makes me smile and get things off to a good start.
- Robert Scoble
@scobleizer I put stuff on Facebook and twitter all the time. If they want to know how I am doing I already said it there. And yet they still say it on FB IM, "How are you guys doing?"
- Christian Burns
I rarely use it anymore. If I really want to message someone, I probably have their number and can text them. IM usually just makes you talk to people just for the sake of talking with no real purpose.
- David Spinks
I don't care for IM either, but not for the same reason. While immediacy is a nice thing to have, it's a productivity killer, not to mention it sets some kind of strange expectation that I'm always in the mood to chat, regardless of my status setting.
- Victor Solanoy
I didn't know the sentiments around IM had changed so much!!
- Meryn Stol
So how ARE you doing?
- Will Higgins™
I agree with Sam and Pwana, Robert. I only IM with people I'd give my phone number to. You put your phone number on your blog; we are talking different approaches and veeery different numbers here...
- Alexandros Georgiadis
Plus, IM is sure to get one's attention, where microposts can easily pass unnoticed
- Alexandros Georgiadis
Stop replying to this kind of messages, simple as that ;-)
- Sebastian
I'd much rather have a friend ask me how I'm doing than immediately jump at me out of the blue for a favor. Then again, I simply have no time for smalltalk nowadays.
- Tamar Weinberg
I don't like IM because the conversations feel inescapable and like I have to give my full attention without being able to really multitask, whereas on Twitter I can go in and out and get work done.
- Leslie Poston
I hear ya - I sometimes hate IM too. A lot of people just want to get on there and shoot the breeze because they're bored. But I'm working! Or they just want to ask for something that could have been emailed - it's critical to them, but not to you. It's a huge interruption. That's why I'm often logged out of GTalk which wants to add everyone in my inbox and then some. I use Windows Live Messenger but am very selective about who goes in there. Work colleagues, personal friends, family. Twitter is best
- Sarah Perez
so Bob, what are u doing?
- Ikaro
I think the worst way to start a conversation is: "Are you busy?"
- James Bailey
I have to disagree with that, James... at least it shows honest concern that you might be disturbed and gives you an out to say "yes!". The worst way to start an IM conversation is "Hi". I HATE that... get to the point and tell me what you need from me! The only response you can send back is "Hi". 2 wasted lines and minutes of my life....
- Lindsay
well, how would you start a conversation? hello and then..... what?
- denise
At a party at Paris Hilton's house. This place is... Ummmm.... Wild.
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Uhhhh and why are you updating your Facebook if it's so wild? Bizarre.
- Mona Nomura
lol mona
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Flicker Feed?
- Stephen Breen
DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING.
- Derrick
AND IF YOU DO, WASH YOUR HANDS AFTERWARDS.
- Michael R. Bernstein
IN FACT, DUNKING IN A HOT-TUB FILLED WITH EVERCLEAR AND HOLY WATER WOULD NOT BE OVERKILL.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Jason, think twice before agreeing to pose for any pictures with Paris. LMAO!
- GC
Pee on the seat in her bathroom. For me.
- Steve Isaacs
Um, I believe the correct term would be, "it's hot"
- Jesse Stay
Video or it didn't happen.
- Robert Scoble
He mentioned Paris Hilton. Search engines will pick that up and drive traffic to his profile. That will get him more followers. Those followers will get Mahalo more traffic.
- MarkCarras
+1 Scoble. Video of you and her, or I call shenanigans.
- Alex Wilhelm
Paris then vomits all over the floor and JC lols away.
- Alex Wilhelm
Did Paris dump her new BFF from the reality show and replace her with Jason?
- Ontario Emperor
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oh damn chris. that's just cold
- @baratunde
o_O you know, that's the sort of thing you see and think "Thank god it wasn't me...." Checking sources ftl!
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The Tech Guy Labs - Leo Laporte: David Pogue says backing up to DVD is a bad idea - http://techguylabs.com/radio...
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"NY Times’ David Pogue was asked if he could make a DVD of his best conference stuff. All his MAC DVDs were unreadable after 4 years. Luckily, he was able to rescue them on his mac book and get them back on hard drive. But studies suggest that the organic dye that holds the data will fade over time and even after a few years, the DVDs are useless. Leo says the lesson here is to backup, backup, backup. On more than one medium and in more than one location. And every few years, you may need to redo these videos into different formats. So, every few years, redo your entire collection and keep up on the current technology."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
Back up to disk (or network, which is really disk)
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