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Does someone else do the narrating in your head? Who's voice is it?
Chatsohbet, Jimminy Fuller, Jennifer Dittrich and 3 other people liked this
Nope, it's me.
- Rochelle
James Mason. (Just going for the joke. If there's ever a voice in my head, it's me.)
- Spidra Webster
If I've watched too much discovery channel I think Mike Rowe talks me through my day. If I'm feeling deep, it's James Earl Jones... otherwise... it's me.
- SAM
Mike Rowe could do a lot of things for me (to me?). But in my head is all D.
- Derrick
The voice in my head is Waylon Jennings. Every day is like a Duke's of Hazzard adventure! ...ok not really, mostly it is just me I think.
- Joe Pierce
Mr. Moviefone
- Mary Carmen
Sometimes it is Eddie Izzard, and sometimes Andy Kaufman
- aden
Laughing at MC... glad it's not the movie-trailer guy... that would be too much to bear. Or how bout the Monster Truck Show commercial announcer guy... "SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY"
- SAM
roflmao.....
- Mary Carmen
All me. I do use an accent, however.
- Alex Scrivener
just me
- VAL D. Zone
I tried to get Gregory Peck, but he was booked so I ended up with Gilbert Gottfried.
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
hehe.
- SAM
Depends on the content. There is a cast of millions in my head.
- CW™
Mark: LMAO.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
It depends on what I'm doing -- most recently it is a lot of Patrick Warburton as Kronk(sp?) doing his own theme music.
- Jennifer Dittrich
It's either me, or Janeane Garofalo, who plays me in the movie of my life.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
It's Harrison Ford or me talking to Harrison Ford. It's complicated.
- Adrian
It's me most of the time, but sometimes the audience is overbearing, and quite hilarious.
- Jimminy Fuller
Strange, but it doesn't really sound like anyone in particular; not even definitively male. Maybe kind of a composite of everyone I knew growing up.
- Kevin Shaum
My last Twitter thought... People now have businesses based on Twitter being up (iPhone apps and such) and Google and Bing are now paying coin for the fire hose. How long until the reliability of Twitter becomes an issue?
Bryan Entzminger, John (a.k.a. dendroica), Yaniv Golan and 8 other people liked this
I believe the reliability of Twitter will improve to a level that it will no longer be an issue. Twitter is maturing and the Fail Whale may someday be a relic, or just during "scheduled" maintenance.
- Louis Gray
Louis, that very well may be true, but a year ago not a few people thought the problem would be fossilized by a year later, and here we are :)
- Micah Wittman
since it's free, they have a lot of time.
- Mike Nencetti
I wonder if the Google and Bing relationships included a service level agreement of some kind. I'd also like to see if Google and Bing are getting the same reliability levels as the freebie users; in most enterprises, paying customers would get priority access to server resources.
- Kevin Shaum
Wasn't the parting of ways with Blaine Cook ( a year and a half ago) supposed to signal the end to their problems (at least that was the story at the time) -- it seems the problem was elsewhere and still exists.
- Brian Sullivan
I am not attempting to sound naive. I talked with Ryan Sarver today, their Director of Platform, at LeWeb, and it was a good discussion. Twitter is growing up. It doesn't have to be my favorite, but it is a utility, and one that is funded well, and has sharp execs. The company is learning how to scale. Despite the occasional whale (like I got today), it's miles ahead of 2008. Understand my lack of favorable bias. :)
- Louis Gray
Well I'm glad they are improving their platform. I wish them no harm and would hate to see them get all lawyer'd over reliability.
- Johnny Worthington
The reliability would have been much less of an issue if we had multiple interoperable microblogging services. Email is reliable enough to base a business on. Do you think this would have been the case if the only email service available was, say, compuserve?
- Yaniv Golan
More on this at http://yaniv.golan.name/blog...
- Yaniv Golan
I would hope most serious businesses don't use Twitter or Gmail as their sole source of communication. I'm already wary of having Gmail check my other mail accounts as IMAP for the same reason (people panic when Gmail goes offline for a couple hours). Should any company with more than a handful of employees be using free social networking sites to base their communications on?
- Ken & Kiyomi
Apple's Mistake - http://paulgraham.com/apple...
Hasan Ozgan, Adriano, goodmachine and 32 other people liked this
"I don't think Apple realizes how badly the App Store approval process is broken. Or rather, I don't think they realize how much it matters that it's broken. The way Apple runs the App Store has harmed their reputation with programmers more than anything else they've ever done. Their reputation with programmers used to be great. It used to be the most common complaint you heard about Apple was that their fans admired them too uncritically. The App Store has changed that. Now a lot of programmers have started to see Apple as evil. How much of the goodwill Apple once had with programmers have they lost over the App Store? A third? Half? And that's just so far. The App Store is an ongoing karma leak."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Even as an end-user, Apple's approval process for the App Store seems heavy-handed and censorious. It makes me like them less.
- Spidra Webster
From the OP: "with fussy tastes and a rigidly enforced house style." - fussy tastes is spot on, but rigidly enforced house style doesn't quite describe the most irritating thing: unpredictable criteria/enforcement.
- Micah Wittman
Paul B, what's you take on the other Paul's statement: "I think the reason Google embraced "Don't be evil" so eagerly was not so much to impress the outside world as to innoculate themselves against arrogance." ?
- Micah Wittman
Is the App Store approval process cumbersome? Sure. Is it completely and totally broken, no. There are over 100,000 applications, LOTS of developers, and because one or two vocal development groups "pull out" it doesn't mean it's doomed. Apple has not "harmed their reputation with developers", I AM an iPhone Application Developer, I've actually SUBMITTED an application (have you Paul?),...
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- Rob Pickering
Rob, Paul Graham, who wrote the essay (not to be confused with Paul Buchheit, who shared it here), advises startups that publish iPhone apps, notably Dropbox.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Tough challenge, dealing with the "community," while enforcing strict standards. I'm glad they're holding the app-dev's to a high standard. One big security hole due to a lax in rules just to be "nice" and iPhone AND Apple's rep turns to applesauce. Seems they need about twice the personnel to get through all the work. Again, tough challenge.
- John Coonen
"Programmers don't use launch-fast-and-iterate out of laziness. They use it because it yields the best results." -- well said
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
Security holes aren't due to lax rules. It takes a broken sandbox. You don't need app approvals to maintain a sandbox.
- Peng-Toh
It's analogous to Yahoo trying to maintain curated links versus Google's pagerank. It doesn't really work past a certain level of scale.
- Todd Hoff
Graham describes Android as an orphan; I don't think that's the case. It's being actively updated, and evangelized for use in all kinds of devices (not just phones). If anything, I think Google considers Android more strategic than they let on.
- Kevin Shaum
When considering iPhone vs Android vs Pre, ask yourself where you think each platform will be at the end of your 2 year contract.
Andrew Terry, Jérôme Flipo, Ed Millard and 11 other people liked this
More specifically, ask yourself what your phone will be able to do over the next 2 years. Will the platform advance in ways that your phone can take advantage of, or would you have to buy new hardware to make use of it? What OS will major developers be building for over the next 2 years?
- Kevin Fox
But don't think too hard; you only lose about $200 if you're wrong.
- Tudor Bosman
Well, you also lose a lot of time. If you guess wrong and things explode in the beginning of your contract it kind of sucks. I'm still using a Windows Mobile phone, patiently waiting for my contract to expire in April
- Benjamin Golub
"only" $200
- Spidra Webster
Plus the cost of the phone itself, plus mental switching costs. Most people will have to like a competing platform significantly more than their own before they'd risk switching.
- Kevin Fox
*gently polishes Motorola FLEX pager*
- Micah Wittman
For example, I think I might like Android better than my iPhone, but I'm not going to risk it because I've owned every single major smartphone OS except for Android and Pre, and the iPhone is the only one I don't hate. Forget the $200. Is it worth it for me to risk losing the phone I enjoy because I might enjoy another one more?
- Kevin Fox
[Actually, I didn't hate my Treo 600. I just grew out of it.]
- Kevin Fox
"*gently polishes Motorola FLEX pager*" - Palm Pilot and Motorola Bag Phone FTW!
- John Craft
It's not just the time and the ETF: if you invest in a platform, you're spending money on apps that can't be ported. I've probably spent at least a hundred or so on apps in the past year or so that I don't particularly want to have to re-buy or find alternatives on a new platform.
- Mark Trapp
:) @ John. Palm V was a sweet ride.
- Micah Wittman
I can afford to break my contract. I want a new phone. But I'm not going to break it because it feels really wrong to pay someone money to let me leave. I'm not sure it's exactly cognitive dissonance but it sucks. How difficult is it to get a line without a contract? Do you just pay an arm and a leg for the phone?
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: that's pretty much it: you either pay up front, pay as part of your contract, or you pay when you leave, but you'll always pay. Although sometimes, like with the iPhone, you can't get the unlocked version immediately.
- Mark Trapp
Android won't kill iPhone, but like Win95 to Mac, I think it will eventually come to dominate a big slice of the market, which means, eventually, the hardware and software ecosystem will eclipse the iPhone. The Pre is like "Chrome OS" for the phone, but I question whether the company making the realm Chrome OS and betting big on the Web, can be beaten by a small vertically integrated...
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- Ray Cromwell
Which is why I went with the HTC Hero. iPhone is on the evil AT&T service. So thats out. Pre is a closed system with one handset hardware. The cost of the accessories alone are not worth it but they are cool. The Pre has no other network providers to help generate love for so not a whole lot of apps are created. The Android is on many type of hardware phones, on several different cell...
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- CW™
unlocked phones prices are getting pretty reasonable, see all the choices at http://www.newegg.com/Store... for example. newest models may still cost $400-$500, but you end up paying that through monthly plans any way
- Mike Chelen
I guess I'm the only person on the planet who thinks that Total Cost of Ownership is a big deal, as is the price of international data roaming service...
- Piaw Na
I'm going to guess that sooner or later, Android's going to have a Google VoIP app integrated with Google Voice, that either offers low-rate international calling, or free international calling if on WiFi. I have a love hate relationship with the iPhone. Love the design, love the apps. Hate development model (Objective-C), hate Apple Store policies. Dislike AT&T.
- Ray Cromwell
"sooner or later, Android's going to have a Google VoIP app integrated with Google Voice" - Google Voice is already available as an Android app. You can choose to route all your calls through Google Voice, bypassing your carrier's voice network.
- John Craft
No, routing your calls through Google Voice still uses your carrier's voice minutes.
- Piaw Na
So, Kevin, where do you think each of these platforms will be?
- Stephen Mack
I think the Android platform is going to mature and will have the broadest user base because manufacturers can differentiate the hardware to their liking to hit different price-points and demographic needs. Because of this and the capability of the platform there will be a slew of high-quality apps coming out over the next two years. I think the iPhone has similar potential if Apple...
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- Kevin Fox
I think you're generally right, but only us geeks (and the FCC re: GV) care about the rejection policies. Ordinary users don't care. I'd be willing to be you lunch that 2 years from today the installed base of the iPhone is 5x or greater than the installed base of all Android OS phones put together.
- Stephen Mack
Not at all Stephen. If major developers focus on Android rather than iPhone because they can't risk their apps being pulled or rejected for reasons beyond their control (or beyond reason) then iPhone's offering will fall behind Android's in ways that are relevant to end users who don't know or care why the app isn't there, only that it isn't. And if you're serious, Stephen, I'll take that bet.
- Kevin Fox
I'm reminded of the arguments about why the iPod was doomed to failure: that end users would get upset that they were locked into the iTunes Store for music, and studios/artists would choose alternatives that weren't as limiting (hence PlaysForSure, which was similar in ideology to aspects of Android). Past success is not an indicator of the future, but I'm sure that's the bet Apple is hedging.
- Mark Trapp
"Google Voice still uses your carrier's voice minutes" - that doesn't mean it's using the carrier's circuit-switched voice network, though. My understanding is that making a call "using Google Voice" goes over the 3G data connection, not the circuit-switched network. Voice mails are definitely transferred to my phone via the data connection.
- John Craft
I think the iPhone is going to continue as a raging success, but apps aren't music. If musical artists had to write songs specifically for the iTunes platform and those songs wouldn't work on any other player, and after creating an album an artist had to wait and hope that the song would be accepted in to the iTunes store or else the work they put in to their album will never be heard...
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- Kevin Fox
Put another way: A large part of the iPod's success was because it was the first mp3 player most people had ever played with and it was simpler than the meager competition. Most people have experiences with mobile phones that are simpler than the iPhone.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin: I'm serious. Please stick a calendar entry in for November 19, 2011, with the details of our bet.
- Stephen Mack
The iPhone platform isn't merely a phone; a large part of the success can also be attributed to the iPod Touch. For many people (myself as an example), the iPhone or iPod Touch is the first foray into what used to be a meager market of smart phones (now an outdated term) that had limited, almost niche use. I think one lesson to be learned from the iTunes Store is that end users don't...
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- Mark Trapp
I'm not so sure I buy that, Mark. I distinctly remember seeing retired grandmothers and stay-at-home moms pulling out their Palm Tungstens and Blackberries to schedule play dates, etc. The iPhone definitely rebooted design expectations in a good way, but by the time it hit the market, if you wore a tie in corporate America, you were probably carrying a Blackberry or a Treo.
- John Craft
Stephen, how many units of each platform do you think will have been sold by your date?
- Cristo
Stephen: Calendar entry created and invitation sent! Now we have to agree on a wager. :-)
- Kevin Fox
I suggest you use http://www.longbets.org/
- Michael R. Bernstein
One reason I made sure to get the Droid before Nov 15th. I'm finicky and I don't want to pay the $350 early termination fee. I can deal with $200 and maybe make some back from selling it.
- Rodfather
Cristo: Today the iPhone probably has around 60 million, and Android about 2 million. I think the iPhone will be extremely successful overseas, especially in China. I've seen estimates of 300 million in 2 years, which I agree with. In contrast, I think the Android platform will struggle to reach 60 million in the same period.
- Stephen Mack
Michael, interesting site. I feel pretty small potatoes looking at some of those ones, though.
- Stephen Mack
Kevin, please make a proposal for how you want to define "lunch." :)
- Stephen Mack
I just bought an iPhone two months ago. I thought about this very question beforehand and still believe I made the right choice.
- Jim in Real Time
from iPhone
There's many OS's coming out that may be players. It's always changing. Nokia has Maemo. There's LiMo. Samsung's Bada. WinMo 7. Choice is good and whatever works for you personally is what matters. There's doesn't have to be a 'killer' platform. They can all survive together.
- Rodfather
Stephen: "lunch" is defined as a meal at Mendy's, but only if soup is not ordered exclusively, excepting matzah ball soup. A soup and sandwich will also be considered a meal worthy of "lunch" at a lesser establishment.
- Mark Trapp
Lunch should be defined as whatever time Chez TJ opens. :)
- Cristo
Do non-phone Android devices count towards this wager? B&N's 'Nook' bookreader, for instance, or all the set-top boxes, netbooks, tablets, etc. that I keep hearing about on TechCrunch. Would an Android equivalent of the iPod Touch count?
- Kevin Shaum
@John Craft: No, Google voice calls still go over the circuit switched network. Sorry to disappoint you.
- Piaw Na
Unless you're using a Gizmo client like fring. Then it'll use just 3G/WiFi.
- Rodfather
For those completely appalled by being required to buy health insurance, are you also appalled at having to buy car insurance?
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I am appalled at being required to buy car insurance, but I understand why, even though I can't afford it. Then again, I'm also appalled that I had pay for marriage license, so I may be the wrong person to answer the question.
- Admiral Anika
I understand the requirement to buy liability insurance. (What would be the health care equivalent? If I give you the flu, my insurance should cover your treatment?) But buying coverage for my own losses should be optional. And I don't actually *have* to buy car insurance; I could walk or bike or take a bus or taxi instead of driving myself, and many do. There's no such 'out' with the health care plan; if you have a pulse, you have to buy coverage.
- Kevin Shaum
For the record, I'm appalled at both questions.
- J Wynia
I want to start billing myself as a social media expert. Is there a hat or something I need to buy to pass?
Kevin Shaum, Michelle Martinez, Junebug (aka Sarah Jill) and Rochelle liked this
I think you just need a big ego and nothing important to say. LOL
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
I think you just need to tweet it, or something.
- Derrick
There should be a Social Media Circus that young folks can run away and join.
- Christopher Harley
Design one, and sell it on CafePress. And use social media to promote it.
- Kevin Shaum
All white people love mayonnaise and popped collars.
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I hate mayo
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
No, you love it.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
DO ANYBODY NO WHY DID MICAH DELETE HIS COMMENT
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I LOVE putting mayonnaise on my popped collars - edited by command
- Alan Simpson
No you LOVE IT
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I hate mayo. HATE.
- Michelle Martinez
WRONG
- Andrizzle Gizzle
My hate for mayo is strong enough to bring down empires. No lie.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I'm not white. I'm a Jew. And I HATE mayonnaise!
- josh neff, geek at large
Wow, you think you know something about yourself and then one day you wake up nonwhite.
- s t e v e
I am glad no one is arguing about popped collars at least.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I'm tepid on mayo, and I hate popped collars.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I'm so white I like Miracle Whip. Popped collars are out, though.
- Kevin Shaum
NVIDIA vs ATI - which graphics card would you buy and why?
Darth Farhad Sama, Demetrios the Traveller, Mark Douglass and 16 other people liked this
I'm on the look out for a new gfx card for about £150. Any recommendations? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I used to buy ATI cause they were trying harder but in the last 2 years I slowly switched to nvidia as they a)use less power (I'm into silent cards!) b)gave me less problems on windows (had weird issues with playing games in a window with any kind of transparency effects with the ATI cards I ad) and c) slightly stabler linux drivers recently - not sure if the latest cards follow the pattern but certainly seems the case on the power consumption (and therefore cooling fan noise) front
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I'm looking at the GTX260 atm. I can get a 896Mb card for £147 but can get a 1792Mb card for £155. Will it make a big difference?
- Kol Tregaskes
Nvidia :) Kol, when is your BD btw?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
BD? Board? Gosh, can't remember, will have to have a look. I currently use a NVIDIA 8800 GTS card but it's knackered.
- Kol Tregaskes
I guess BD=Birthday?
- Holger Eilhard
Birthday ;) My ATI sux - I even can't run Guitar Hero - and it has 512MBs of memory.
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Every few years I jump from one camp to the other. I just recently made the jump off from Nvidia to ATI and, holy crap, I'm glad that I did. The ATI is way better in all ways than my previous Nvidia. And I'm not just talking about pure framerate. Color reproduction and quality mean a lot to me, as well.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, what model you have?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Sasha, doh. 2 weeks ago. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Shit, I knew it. Sorry Kol, Happy Birthday!!! :D
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Hehe, thanks, Sasha. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is the card I'm eyeing atm: http://www.ebuyer.com/product... - I've bought XFX cards in the past and they've been really good.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm always bad in that :( All my friends call me to remind that their bds are coming :D So, do you plan to play on ultra-high quality?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
I love nvidia. but now i have ati :D, i think you should wait for DX11 cards to coming
- Farshad
Sasha, 4870 Mac Edition.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Maybe they are good on Macs - my intel based sux :( I wonder, can sound card break everything up?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Yes, it certainly can. In fact, more issues are usually due to the sound card than just about any other device in a system. This is why usually one of the first debugging steps is to remove or disable the sound card to see if it fixes whatever the issue is. And Macs are Intel-based.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, so if I'm with a notebook I'm stuck to whatever is inside? Or I can try FireWire soundcards?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Well, first, make sure you have the latest drivers for your sound card (heck, for ALL of your peripherals). If it's still causing a problem, it could be a hardware issue and, in that case, an external sound device may be your only choice. One of the downfalls of laptops, sadly.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It depends on what kinda work u wanna do. I have heared from a large number of people that Nvidia works better with games (as u might have noticed, they usually mention the system requirement for a game by the type of Nvidia Graphics u use, not the Ati). And by the way I think a GF 9800 (512Mb) might be the best choice nowadays.
- امیر؟
Playing games and Photoshop.
- Kol Tregaskes
Can you take two and then just return one? ;)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Kol, don't you have PS3 or Xbox to play games already?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Xbox yes but after a gfx upgrade so I can play FPS and strategy games on the PC. I can't play them on a console, those need a mouse. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The ATI HD 4870 looks like a far better deal though, more RAM, faster core and cheaper.
- Kol Tregaskes
ATI. And especially now that 5870 (or greater) are out. EyeFinity is cool (triple display support at minimum) and there shouldn't be problems with performance, either.
- Jemm
I just need PC to play upcoming Diablo 2 and Starcraft 2. Oh, and DOTA :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Sasha, I think you mean Diablo 3 - and don't expect it before 2011. Starcraft 2 (I think) is a way off too.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yep, 3 ;) Fine, recommend me some FireWire soundcards then :) I think Starcraft should come out pretty soon, with all these almost ready battlefield reports.
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Interesting image. I always buy nVidia
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
I've always been an NVidia fan, personally. ATi cards have tempted my in the past (like the Radeon 9800), but NVidia has typically had faster cards for less money.
- Jason, Incognito
Interestingly, this article: http://techgage.com/article... says the NVIDIA is faster.
- Kol Tregaskes
Nvidia often sacrifices overall quality for speed. For game-rig junkies, speed is all that really matters.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I see, Akiva. To an extent yes but I like to have quality too if I can. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I know that, historically, Nvidia generally has much better driver support on Linux, so that has always been a big reason for me to use their cards over ATI. I'm not sure if you're even remotely considering using Linux on the machine or not, but you'd be better served to get an Nvidia card if you are. ATI support has been getting better, but it's still not on par with the Nvidia support.
- Curtiss Grymala
Curtiss makes an excellent point, too.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I use Nvida, it's just always been recommended to me as being better & now Mac's are being packaged with them. But I honestly don't know the technicalities behind all that jazz, whenever I ask at the store, they always respond well it depends are you using it for gaming (& what type of gaming), photo or video editing, as media centre, and wank wank wank
- sofarsoShawn
At a price point only the ATI Radeon HD 4890 is perhaps a better comparison to the 260 but that ATI card is generally compared to the 275 card. Hmmm....
- Kol Tregaskes
NVIDIA
- Opium
ATI for sure
- Arman
If you use OpenGL at all, NVIDIA beats ATI. Most Windows games use DirectX, but I use Second Life, which is OpenGL-based. Also had fits with the video when upgrading my Linux box to the latest Ubuntu, but that's because it's an ancient ATI 7000, no longer supported by their binary driver.
- Kevin Shaum
with dx11 and windows 7 around! I will go for ATI! probably 5770 would be a great choice
- Darth Farhad Sama
I still have a few Google Wave invites. Anyone?
Jim in Real Time, J. Abdul-Qahhar, Pik Quinn and 3 other people liked this
Me, please. I tried asking Google nicely, but that hasn't worked yet.
- Kevin Shaum
Done.
- LB - all new for '10!
This one! I asked Google too, but I've been shunned so far :( pikquinn[at]gmail.com
- Pik Quinn
Done. :)
- LB - all new for '10!
Got it! You're a doll :) Thanks
- Pik Quinn
Happy to help!
- LB - all new for '10!
Hi Laura, I am Gandhi from India and I am a big fan of Google, I hope you will be generous enough to give me an invite to wave. Thanks. my email id is kontaktgandhi@gmail.com
- Vikram Gandhi
Done!
- LB - all new for '10!
did you sent the invite to kontaktgandhi@gmail.com
- Vikram Gandhi
I did. Or rather, I sent it to Google Wave, and they should handle it from there. Two others I've sent tonight have already gone through, so I hope you'll get it soon!
- LB - all new for '10!
ok thanks, god bless you. Do visit my store http://multifabonline.com [I hope this is not a spam]
- Vikram Gandhi
No problem, Gandhi! :)
- LB - all new for '10!
hi laura if you still have a wave invitation i would like one ecwhitehead@gmail.com
- beth
Sent, Beth. :)
- LB - all new for '10!
thanks
- beth
You're welcome, Beth.
- LB - all new for '10!
i got your frindfeed no invitation or did i miss something?
- beth
Beth, I sent it to Google Wave. They should send something to your Gmail, but it may not be right away.
- LB - all new for '10!
ok thanks
- beth
Hi Laura, got the invite fro google just now, thanx a lot.
- Vikram Gandhi
Rob Pike’s Google Tech Talk on the Go Programming Language - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I would much rather Google get behind another language like D than introducing another new one.
- Paul Reynolds
The reference implementation of D is only partially open source (according to Wikipedia). I wonder if that had anything to do with it.
- Kevin Shaum
Classic geek humor.
- Kevin Shaum
Kolache Factory - Freshest, Highest Quality and Best Tasting Kolaches in Houston, TX - http://www.kolachefactory.com/
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Yup.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I miss me some kolaches. The kolaches of my youth, they call out to me. They sing to me... kolache-y.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I will be in Houston next Saturday, by the way. Very near their Spring location.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
My favorite breakfast place, an indulgence I allow myself maybe once a month. The Mild Polish and the Sausage Gravy kolache are my favs.
- Kevin Shaum
You need to go out of your way to eat some, Glen. You MUST. It is a Moral Imperative. My faves are the jalapeno & cheese, the sausage/cheese/jalapeno, and the chocolate cream cheese. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Top 11 Things Nerds Can Do that Average People Can't http://mona.posterous.com/top-11-...
Penguin It's Cold Outside, Chieze Okoye, Alex Scoble and 17 other people liked this
especially #2
- chrisofspades
Yup. Especially 2.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Have yet to see Number 8 happen, though.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
"9. Name the closest star to Earth with certainty" ... it's called THE SUN
- Onur B.
+1 Onur
- Kenton
I have 1-9 down but no chance at 10 or 11. What has Wil been on besides The Guild and BBT?
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Nicholas - I didn't know about the other two but he was on Big Bang Theory
- chrisofspades
chris: Yeah thats BBT stands for :)
- Nicholas Kreidberg
doh! you can revoke my nerd pass now.
- chrisofspades
#4 always happens
- Rodfather
bbt is for sure, but do "curb your enthusiasm" has something to do with being nerd? i'm suspicious... hmm.
- Onur Gündüz
Oddly, I do the top 3 only.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
12. Go crazy when people abuse grammar. (actually this seems to be about a specific subset of nerd)
- LAST DAY OF WORK
I can't do most of these. I guess I should give BBT another shot; the pilot turned me off and I never did watch another episode.
- Andrew C
There were only three Star Wars movies.
- Jim Norris
Definitely agree with Jim on that one.....
- Kelly
@Lo - tmi, tl;dr: I think you mean "misuse" instead of "abuse"? (The delicious, dekicious irony is the only reason I'm bringing this up)
- Onur B.
lol @Onur. Sometimes I think of it as abuse, and logophiles as employees Grammar Protective Services. It depends on the gravity of the offense, I suppose :P
- LAST DAY OF WORK
I couldn't name one show with Will Wheaton off the top of my head, and I still don't have a clue what makes twitter useful. Otherwise, I think I'm pretty nerdy.
- Bren -- Making Contact
Pretty much none of these for me.
- Cristo
I heartily concur with Jim Norris and other True Nerds. There were only three star wars films.
- Slappy Line
And of course, number 12 - associate item numbers 11 and 2
- Slappy Line
There are only three-ers unite. We need to start a club.
- Mona Nomura
Wil was a voice actor on Ben 10, does that count?
- Glenn Slaven
Wasn't Wil on Leverage?
- Kevin Shaum
Shouldn't there be a chuck Norris joke in that list??
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Only three Star Wars movies, definitely; though I will also admit to the existence of the Genndy Tartakovsky "Clone Wars" series.
- Kevin Shaum
No.
- Mona Nomura
Which question was that for Mona?
- Glenn Slaven
I will also admit to the existence of the Genndy Tartakovsky "Clone Wars" series. <---- No.
- Mona Nomura
Have you seen the one I'm talking about? I mean the hand-animated earlier series, by the creator of Samurai Jack, not the later computer-animated one.
- Kevin Shaum
Mona is correct. I also refute the existence of clone wars, clone wars AND clone wars (did I miss any)
- Slappy Line
No.
- Mona Nomura
@Slippy: Holiday Special.
- Andrew C
10 and 11 are more geek Qs than nerd ones, but yeah.
- Mr. Gunn
Why do we have an IMG element? [dive into mark] - http://diveintomark.org/archive...
"HTML has always been a conversation between browser makers, authors, standards wonks, and other people who just showed up and liked to talk about angle brackets. Most of the successful versions of HTML have been “retro-specs,” catching up to the world while simultaneously trying to nudge it in the right direction. Anyone who tells you that HTML should be kept “pure” (presumably by ignoring browser makers, or ignoring authors, or both) is simply misinformed. HTML has never been pure, and all attempts to purify it have been spectacular failures, matched only by the attempts to replace it."
- Kevin Shaum
from Bookmarklet
Mother of all carry trades faces an inevitable bust - http://www.ft.com/cms...
Meet the new bubble, same as the old bubble ... maybe worse.
- Kevin Shaum
from Bookmarklet
You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. ~~~ Albert Einstein - http://quotes4all.net/authors...
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You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. ~~~ Albert Einstein
- Shevonne
Then apparently I don't understand *anything* about computers.
- Kevin Shaum
I like that quote. I don't agree with it, but it's funny.
- Admiral Anika
The Economics Of Fear - http://theferrett.livejournal.com/1346357...
"Scientific studies have shown that you can destroy a child by calling them "smart." Even when they're very young, little kids know that being "smart" is what makes them special - and so, the first time they encounter something they don't understand immediately, it's a threat. Their specialness is in danger of being stripped away. And if they lose that smartness, then what are they? Kids who are called smart take fewer chances. Why risk all that glorious social acclaim for a stupid test?"
- Kevin Shaum
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Japan Welcomes Windows 7 with Seven Layer Whopper Burger - http://gizmodo.com/5387448...
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"Even compared to its wacky Windows 7 parties, Microsoft's promo with Burger King Japan is pretty out there. The Windows 7 Whopper costs ¥777 ($8.50), and is 5-inches tall. I"
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
No.
- Derrick
What? No bacon?!?! Massive FAIL! Also, massive myocardial infarction!
- Victor Ganata
Not only that, Victor, I would need a slice of cheese as well.
- Derrick
My cholesterol levels are going up just thinking about it.
- Victor Ganata
You should have seen the one they did when Windows 95 came out.
- Kevin Shaum
Can you imagine how humongous this would be in real life? A triple whopper is already huge.
- Michelle Martinez
Beginning dump of physical memory
- Mike Nencetti
For health reasons, choosing the burger is probably the smarter choice in the long run vs. Vista 2.0. At least a trip to the gym could drop the bloat.
- Ace
Marco.org - Why hasn't Vista sold well? - http://www.marco.org/217159338
"When we tell them that the new OS is faster and better, only to have the upgrade break a piece of software that we don’t care about but they really do, we burn our likelihood that they’ll ever willingly upgrade again. Every time we tell them that they can now easily edit video or make DVDs, only to have them abandon their first effort in frustration and never attempt it again because our software sucks, we drive them closer to indifference or resentment toward future technology. So when our nontechnical aunts refuse to upgrade from their Pentium III PCs with Windows 98 that work well enough for them and are set up exactly how they prefer, we have nobody to blame but ourselves. The upgrade market for average PC owners is dead. We killed it."
- Kevin Shaum
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Barnes & Noble Introduces 'Nook' Android-Powered E-book Reader - http://www.androidcentral.com/barnes-...
Want.
- Kevin Shaum
Scoble says friendfeed is dead. Friendfeed says Scoble is dead. Who to believe?
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Lennon?
- awd
I only hear ff
- JSNFLMNG
Friendfeed
- RAPatton
Shatner. William Shatner.
- Derrick
I believe in Chuck Norris
- Onur Cengiz
Louis Gay or I mean Gray
- sofarsoShawn
I believe in coyotes.
- s t e v e
I believe the children are our future... wait, wrong thing.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Kendra wins
- Mary Carmen
also, you should believe me as I write your eval. ;-)
- Mary Carmen
Which one will burn when put to the stake? And do either of them float?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I believe in Swordfish!
- Mary Carmen
Friendfish
- Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!
well Friendfeed is looking a bit pale these days. Not the same kind of party as before. So I would say Friendfeed : Dead, Scoble : Alive
- Mark O'Neill
Can't they both be right?
- Kevin Shaum
FriendFeed's less shiny, but that's a good thing. Scoble? His opinion matters as much to me as that of any other A-lister.
- Walt Crawford
The Walrus.
- Robert Scoble
*lol* Nice, Scoble ;)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Paul
- Jesse Stay
Doesn't look dead to me.
- Amit Morson
Does this make us necrosomethings?
- Rochelle Rochelle
Neither, in this case. Though "the Walrus" is a good answer. :-)
- Chris Baskind
I'm still here.
- Alex Scoble
I don't believe Robert Scoble uses FriendFeed anymore after saying it's dead. Whoever uses his account on FF must be a ghost writer. :P
- imabonehead
imabonehead: there is life after death.
- Robert Scoble
Who said Alex was dead?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: I did. Many times when we were kids.
- Robert Scoble
Glad you weren't so big on follow-through back then.
- Matthew DeVries
We may need to send the Ghost Whisper after Robert Scobe.
- imabonehead
Not so good on follow through now either
- Ed Millard
Matthew: our bark is worse than our bite. Who is PetuniaGreenBeans? And why doesn't Petunia know how to use Google?
- Robert Scoble
42
- Steve Mott
42 is dead too
- Amit Morson
Google is dead
- Amit Morson
kanye west lol
- zʍıɔ
Could've Handled This Better, But Anyway... - http://drewfromtv.blogspot.com/2009...
Beyonce Spills Wonder Woman Movie News - http://www.comicbookmovie.com/wonder_...
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"Just got back from a press conference tonight with Beyonce and she spoke of a few upcoming movie projects. The last one on her list was Wonder Woman! Yes, Wonder Woman! She said she has to meet up with the writers and directors in a couple months and things will start to pick up by mid-2010 for a late 2011 release. She said the writers were Stuart Beatti and David Elliot, the guys that wrote GI Joe: Rise of Cobra and the director was John Moore, the guy that directed Max Payne."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
No no no no no no no no no no!
- Spidra Webster
Everyone is going to focus on whether she can pull it off. She might be able to even though she wouldn't be my choice. It is " the guys that wrote GI Joe: Rise of Cobra" and "the guy that directed Max Payne" that scares the hell out of me.
- RAPatton
It all sounds shitty to me. More of the usual crappy treatment WW gets.
- Spidra Webster
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, I mean no no no no no!
- Vincent van Wylick
I thought Whedon was doing WW?
- Andrizzle Gizzle
He was terminated a long time ago; I don't think this will happen either, unless Time Warner has lost their mind.
- RAPatton
Okay, she said she's *in* WW, but apparently didn't say she's *playing* WW. What if she's the villain? Beyonce as Cheetah, maybe?
- Kevin Shaum
Ok, yeah I heard about Whedon doing it for like two years, but overall my interest in a WW movie is incredibly low. I can't think of a single decent super heroine movie. Maybe Spiderman 3.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Aliens, Andrea. Ripley is my hero.
- RAPatton
I am thinking of comic based super heroines but yes, Aliens is good. I'm thinking like, Electra, Catwoman, etc.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
"the guys that wrote GI Joe: Rise of Cobra" " - yes, but in fairness, the guys who wrote 500 Days of Summer also wrote Pink Panther 2.
- Andrew C
:-/
- Anna Haro
Writers who wrote GI-Joe? *sinking feeling*
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
I love Wonder Woman, but I'm not interested in anything new. I kind of prefer the childhood memories.
- R1CC1
If Beyonce is WW, I won't go see it. I'm still holding out for Cobie Smulders: http://images.google.com/images...
- Jason, Incognito
What the hell. I pressed the button for a free Diet Coke and the machine gave me a free Coke Zero! DAY = RUINED
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Try again and put that one in the fridge!
- joey
that's an upgrade!
- holly
I bet a counterburger would make it all better! ;)
- Liana Shanes
You should try your luck at the ATM!
- Jemm
*HUGGGGG*
- Sparky
Agree with Holly. You went from nasty to tasty. Diet Coke is hideous. Coke Zero is delicious.
- Nathan Chase
Dude that's a serious upgrade. Holly is so right! Coke Zero 4eva!
- Michelle Jones
I'm sorry, but Zero is way better than Diet.
- Chieze Okoye
Aren't they exactly the same drink but in different packaging?
- Amy
Amy, no, they actually changed the formula/sweetener in Zero to "taste more like regular Coke."
- Chieze Okoye
Special investigator Joshua Haley has been assigned to your case, sir. Please remain calm (while he finishes his real D. Coke).
- Micah Wittman
I think one has aspartame and the other doesn't? Or one has more than the other with something else?
- Rodfather
I think they're both aspartame-based, just different flavouring.
- Tristan Seligmann
Zero has aspartame and acesulfame potassium. AND RULES ALL.
- holly
Mexican Coke or nothing!
- Rodfather
Chieze: Innnnnteresting! I'll need to do a taste-test. :)
- Amy
Oh HELL no!
- Josh Haley
I assumed you were joking, but need to confirm: do you really prefer Diet Coke over Coke Zero?
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
This reminds me of the time I failed to get my driver's license. There were people throwing free cans of coke zero at people on the street. Naturally, I took one because it was free, but it just tasted like the disappointment I felt.
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Someone told me that Coke Zero causes cancer, while Light/Diet doesn't. Might be an urban myth, but I prefer to drink Diet ever since then.
- Vincent van Wylick
Hey...you know what's worse than Coke Zero? CHERRY Coke Zero.
- suzanne
Coke Zero sucks compared to Diet Coke. Trust me, I'm a true addict.
- Louis Gray
what?? Coke Zero is way better than Diet Coke. The lines have been drawn.
- Chieze Okoye
Coke Zero is a hideous monstrosity. Some day in the future, it will be on one of those lists of disastrous products that nobody can believe ever existed. http://ff.im/9aYb8
- Bren -- Making Contact
Yeah, if we're chosing up sides I'm on the Coke Zero Team.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I wonder if it's like that bitter/tasteless gene thing. I've always thought Diet Coke was seriously nasty, even before Coke Zero came out. Coke Zero IMHO tastes basically like sugared Coke to me; my preferable. I wonder if there's a genetic basis, or if people just simply prefer the nastiness.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Zero beats Diet, but I prefer Diet Coke w/Splenda over either one. Or Diet RC/Diet Rite, also with Splenda. And of the vile brew called "Diet Pepsi", we shall not speak.
- Kevin Shaum
Coke zero is horrible. Diet coke is marginally better. Diet pepsi rulllllllles
- Andrizzle Gizzle
the time I tried Coke Zero, it didn't taste like anything. It was basically phosphoric acid-flavored, carbonated water. Yuck.
- Bren -- Making Contact
You're all wrong. Diet anything is yuck.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
+1 for m9m
- Curtiss Grymala
Zero is awesome. It at least resembles regular Coke.
- Kamilah Gill
Coke Zero is WAAAAY better than Diet Coke. It has a slightly lemony flavor but otherwise tastes like regular Coke. I will drink Diet Coke if that's all that's offered but I'll take Zero over Diet every time. Of course, Diet Dr Pepper is better than all of them. Also @Vincent van Wylick - the rumors about Diet Coke causing cancer (with aspartame) have been around a lot longer than the...
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
What Louis said. The man brings SCIENCE.
- Josh Haley
mmmmmmdiet dr. pepper
- suzanne
Black coffee. No sugar. All the caffeine.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
+1 more for m9m.
- Curtiss Grymala
lol, +1 m9m. And yes, Lindsay, Diet Dr. Pepper is much better than all of them (their ad is totally true, it DOES taste more like regular Dr. Pepper). Diet Pepsi can crawl back to the level of Hell that spawned such a monstrosity.
- Chieze Okoye
Zero >>> Diet. I hope you gave that machine a reach around.
- Matthew DeVries
Madonna Totally Looks Like this little goat - http://totallylookslike.com/2009...
Rick Schmidt, Shea, Jessie and 3 other people liked this
No she does not!
- Jacque
Not really.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Why do you have to behave so hatefully to that poor little goat?
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
They just use the same stylist.
- Kevin Shaum
Your Favorite Film Adaptation? - http://www.rowthree.com/2009...
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Street Fighter, no doubt 8^P
- Chieze Okoye
The Princess Bride. Adapted by William Goldman, the writer of the original novel, who was himself an award-winning screenwriter.
- Kevin Shaum
Everyone gets paid on commission - http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
Excellent point. Among the things the Internet enables, is measurement: how many people read what you write, use what you create. That means a lot more accountability in professions (like journalism) where that kind of measurement is a foreign and unwelcome idea.
- Kevin Shaum
Alp to Alp's feed, FFSPY Feedback, FriendFeed Hacks, FF tools and services, FriendFeed API, TheNextWeb Forum, Social Media Club, Appetite
My new FriendFeed app: "FFSPY": Find out who stops following you on FriendFeed! (help spreading please, reshare, like...) - http://ffspy.com/
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FFSPY allows you to find out who unsubscribed from you by sending you hourly, daily or weekly reports via e-mail. Try it now: http://ffspy.com
- Alp
from Bookmarklet
nice
- به نریمان گوش بده
kan cikmaz, aklini basina alir insanlar. Postlari insanlarin hosuna gimtiyorsa ogrenmek hakki. guzel bir tool
- denizoktar
"Post to FriendFeed on your behalf" Why? What for?
- Nikos Anagnostou
@Nikos it is not a message created by us. It is a generic message from FriendFeed. We don't post anything.
- Alp
Next up: FFHitman: "Make people think twice before unfollowing you on FriendFeed again."
- Meryn Stol
ohlala süpermiş bu
- Hakan İyice
Meryn, haha that was great :-}
- Alp
@Meryn, haha that was great.
- Alp
comments?
- Alp
i'll be sure to comment when report arrives.
- bora "head" basman
one way to read the alerts in friendfeed is by using a group with a secret email address added
- Mike Chelen
Am I actually supposed to care if people unsubscribe? Apparently I'm too self absorbed. Never occurred to me to try and find out.
- Eoghann Irving
106 of my friends unsubscribed from me today, supposedly.
- Franz Sittampalam
@Franz, there is a bug and I'm trying to solve it. Could you check that ffspy is listed here: http://friendfeed.com/setting... and inform me after that, please?
- Alp
@Alp, it's not listed there but the website recognizes me and is setup to email me. What should I do?
- Franz Sittampalam
@Frans, sorry I pasted wrong URL, could you check out existance of ffspy at here: http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Alp
@Alp, yes it's listed there
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
@Dave, if you have doubts, you can revoke ffspy at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Alp
@Franz, thanks for your help, I'm still investigating on the issue, this is a very rare situation but happened on a few users among hundreds. Such an interesting bug. I'll inform you when I figure out.
- Alp
Alp, thanks a lot - no biggy, I just thought I was very unpopular this morning :p
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Oh, don't worry about it :)
- Alp
Thanks for your opinions. I hope it may be useful for someone else.
- Alp
Alp, dude. You are awesome. You should work for FriendFeed.
- AJ Batac
Wait. You are only 19 years old? Whoa.
- AJ Batac
Ehm you can see all my apps here http://www.ahmetalpbalkan.com/
- Alp
tanx
- مصطفام
Next, you need to develop an app that lets you unfollow someone *without* setting off an FFSpy alert. (More seriously: I *like* the fact that FF doesn't notify someone if I unfollow them.)
- Kevin Shaum
Kevin, maybe we follow some people for trends, news and good stuff. Sometimes it does not matter whether they do follow us, or they don't.
- Alp
The logo might a bit dramatic............you know with the blood and all lol
- Franz Sittampalam
all this time you are working on a new app?
- testbeta
will check this out!
- Srikanth AD
رونوشت به مجتبی :))
- پیکان
خیلی این سایت مطمئن به نظر نمیرسه ... عضو نشید
- راحیل
@peykan @sargardani, what are you talking about?
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Why would you care? Just asking...
- Fossil Huntress
it only matters to ppl with a trophy mentality. vindictive ppl, at that. very MySpace. :P
- Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!
why does it have to be vindictive? maybe the point is to notice if you make mistakes or do something that upsets people without realizing =D
- Mike Chelen
I don't get it. Why would anybody care who is following them?
- Otto
@Fossil @Otto, nevermind, someone cares, so more than 800 people using it.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
@Ahmet: Thank you for not answering my question... I was asking, why would people care, not how many people use the service...
- Otto
Otto, you know some people have obsessions. They really care about who follows them. That's just obvious for some nations, they do care this trivial thing.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
application is good thats all that matters and alp has been working on a great lot of apps for friendfeed, i am looking forward to some great unique service of its own from him, i don't care who follows me but @otto it does give some happy moments when you are followed by someone of high integrity and expertise, helps one have a smile on one's face :) thanks for the app though, i too tried it but i don't really care if someone leaves ;)
- testbeta
is that a ... good picture for software? ? ... just saying ... don't get me wronk /
- Petr Buben
bana email falan gelmedi :(
- ugurarcan
Built to Fail: How companies like Google, IDEO, and 37signals build failure-tolerant systems for anything! | Andrew Chen (@andrew_chen) - http://andrewchenblog.com/2009...
Failure is not something to be avoided, because failure of some sort *cannot* be avoided. You succeed not by avoiding failure, but by learning to deal with it and recover from it. High-reliability systems are not called 'fault-free', they are called 'fault tolerant': they are designed to anticipate, detect, and recover from failure, not to avoid it (because, again, you *can't* avoid it).
- Kevin Shaum
LB - all new for '10!, Roberto Bonini, Jimminy Fuller and Haggis (Sean Loyless) liked this
Is this a placeholder for something? Should I be excited???
- pea
++++++++++++++++
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Dude!
- LogEx
This has the makings of an epic thread. *drops pants*
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Maybe Johnny finally got his period?
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Johnny, you seem to be sticking to this point, eh?
- Jimminy Fuller
?
- Kevin Shaum
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