Back from taking a guinea pig out on a leash. She didn't run away. She didn't actually do anything but eat grass. Then I bathed them both and now I'm going to sneeze.
Marc, we have to stop being negative and think positive. I know it's hard when your money is going in the toilet right now, but you've got to try. Maybe I'm being like Pollyana, but after feeling depressed earlier I have gotten to the thought of trying to stay positive.
- Molly, "sorry"
Because I've seen it posted here: Barack Obama is **NOT** the most liberal senator in Congress. The most liberal senator is Bernie Sanders from Vermont, and that's because he is a socialist. Thanks for playing "Your Talking Points Suck".
Seriously, this drives me nuts. Every few months, someone new (usually someone prominent in the news cycle) is the "most liberal Congressperson" ever. Find new talking points already, because we now have this wonderful new invention called the Internet, where we can check on your scurrilous claims.
- Steven Perez
Steven, what rank is Obama then? Is he the most liberal who is not a Socialist? Most liberal Democrat? Second most liberal? I agree the Internet is wonderful. But you are not helping your cause by saying Obama is less liberal than the only socialist in the Senate. Thanks for playing "You just shot yourself in the foot". ;)
- Oldengrey (Jay)
When exactly did liberal become a dirty word? Look it up in the dictionary - trust me, you want a liberal raise. You want a liberal portion of pecan pie. End of the day, labels mean nothing and only serve to create friction and sell more detergent. Let's look at issues and ideas.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: Not a dirty word at all. It's a common descriptor that gives dimension outside of party affiliation. Conservative is the same kind of word. I'm all for issues and ideas. Just thought it was funny to use a socialist to prove this particular point.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
It's hard to compare someone that has been in office for just during Bush's Administration and someone else who has been around through other admins--purely on how they have voted--of course he has voted liberal during this administration--so have A LOT of democrats-the admin has forced them too. It would be more accurate to just go back the time period Obama has been in office and then compare them--or actually look that their views and policy ideas.
- Kelly W.
Hmm, gee, an argument about talking points, so informative.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jay: I submit that ranking who is or isn't "the most liberal Senator" is a false argument, put forth only to divide loyalties of the American voting populace. The real question is not who is the most "liberal" of senators; the real question is "What have you done with the people's trust with your time in the Senate?" Playing with labels is a fool's game.
- Steven Perez
We've seen what's happened to the country while it has been controlled by "conservatives." I say it's time for a "liberal.'
- Chrimmus Tad
Folks, seriously, this is all a lot of hot air. Instead of pissing each other off arguing about pointless banality, can we try to talk about some stuff that actually matters? I know, I'm tilting at windmills here.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Even though we all may "start building our bridge" from a different place wouldn't it be best if we all built it together?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Jason: thank you. That is entirely my point.
- Steven Perez
Steven: Like I said, I was just responding to your post. It was your point and your gripe. Look at the tone of your original post. You certainly have enough people who agree with you. I have been properly chastened, for not arguing the issues on a post that was not arguing the issues. I will now exit the echo chamber.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
My "tone"? I react to a gross distortion in a proportional manner, and the issue is my tone?!?
- Steven Perez
Victor mentions during this thread that some view this election as the lesser of two evils. I have to say for the first time since 1996, I really do not feel that way. I support Barack Obama because as I understand the issues, his positions best reflect my POV. I have to admit that if you could remove the conduct of his campaign, I cannot say that...
I was saying that I if you could remove the way McCain's campaign has been run, I cannot say that I hate McCain. I am perhaps being generous based on my previous perceptions of him. Currently I only see him as four more years of Bush policices [based on Obama shaping M's image] and McCain running a anti-Obama, not a pro-McCain campaign. If that makes any sense.
- R. Ferguson
I genuinely like Obama. I wish he was more liberal, and as such don't agree with all of his positions. But he does seem to have more intelligence, integrity, and character than anyone else who's run for the office in my lifetime. I don't have to hold my nose to vote for him.
- Eric P
McCain is running on the same old recycled lines he's been fed by the Republican spin machine. The "looking into Putin's soul and seeing KGB" is a line he stole from Colin Powell's speech. His message is one of fear and loathing and not a responsible and hopeful message like Obama.
- Larry Kless
I keep hearing people talk about this "lesser of two evils" thing, but I think what they really wanna say is "I think McCain sucks horribly, but I can't bring myself to support Obama". I leave the reasons for not supporting Obama up to the reader to imagine.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
It seems to me that McCain is focused on how bad things are right now (short term) but Obama is focused on how we get to the next stage (long term) and acknowledges there are new hurdles with the present state of the economy but seems a lot more optimistic about still getting to where we need to be. I don't like politicians and I don't believe they honestly have my best interests at heart or can really identify with my needs, but Obama seems much more in touch with them than McCain does.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@ Eric, Obama is the most liberal senator there is. How can you get more liberal than that ask for a pure Marxist. If elected Obama will quickly bring communist ideals to this country we can only hope congress has the foresight to stop it before its too late! Don't beleive me read Carl Marx book then read Obamas plan!
- Mark Miller
Yes I think the lesser of the evils is very misunderstood on this thread. McCain is nearly the most liberal republican senator there is. Somehow he got the nomination. This is viewed as an evil to most conservatives but not as evil as the Marxist attitudes and policies of Obama. Give me Hillary I think she is more conservative than McCain.
- Mark Miller
The funny thing is, most progressives think that Obama is too much of a centrist. I think some people underestimate just how liberal America really is.
- Victor Ganata
I completely agree, Ruth. I'm surprised at my level of support for Obama. I can't remember the last presidential election where I've actually been excited about voting for someone. The last several elections left me feeling like I was "settling." And on won occasion I hated the options so much I didn't vote. Which is not an attitude I support at all generally.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
+1 Squirrel Girl...Last elections that I felt this way were when Bill Clinton was running.
- Alex Scoble
I was too young to vote for Clinton the first time, but I made sure I voted for him the second time. I remember when he stopped at the Glendale Galleria. I thought all presidential candidates always incited this much excitement, but I was sorely disappointed in 2000 and in 2004. We should never allow the bar to be so low again.
- Victor Ganata
I certainly will be online twitting/FFing and likely live blogging if my friend at dallassouthblog.com does it as usual. LOL - so clearly i never "look" at the screen.
- R. Ferguson
I'll probably be avoiding FriendFeed. This place gets downright nasty whenever a Republican is on television.
- Akiva Moskovitz