I've had three RRODs on the same Xbox. So far.
- Leo Laporte
Do they normally send you back the same box? Or just refurbs?
- Paul Grav
Of course your NES still works. You can't compare 1980s console hardware to stuff made today.
- Alex Knight
Consoles of today run multi core CPUs with massive hard drives that have many moving parts. Failure rate is going to be far greater.
- Alex Knight
No RROD for me and I've had mine since day 1. Lucky me, I guess ;-)
- Steve Lacey
Paul, mine went a few weeks ago. I bought it from a friend and he was never able to find the receipt for it. I've been told that the warrenty has been changed in such a way that they don't even ask for one anymore. Is this true? I hope so!
- Michael Fidler
from BuddyFeed
Hasn't Microsoft officially addressed these failures in the latest revision of the XBOX hardware?
- Alex Knight
One day when SSD capacity and pricing comes down, I can see consoles using them.
- Alex Knight
The problem with the XBox isn't the hard disk, it's a poorly designed clamp that can't take the heat generated by the console. It's a design flaw. Also, consoles already use solid-state drives of a sort. The Wii has 512 MB of NAND, and there's no reason you can't put an SSD in your PS3 (any 2.5" drive will work). The PSP uses NAND by way of MemoryStick Duos, and the DS now takes SD/SDHC...
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- Ivan
I had one RROD (initial batch), but no problems since then with either of current Xboxes (Premium and Elite).
- Jemm
I wonder if you can swap out the current Xbox hdd with SSD. It uses a SATA controller doesn't it?
- Alex Knight
I am on my ***FIFTH*** 360 in just over three years. To Microsoft's credit, they have replaced each one at no cost to me and the process has been quick and painless every time. Of course they have replaced so many, they should have it down pat by now. To answer Paul's question, they send you back a refurb box, not the same one you sent in.
- Todd Walker
So could that mean I'd get one with a newer chipset. One that's supposedly less prone to failure?
- Paul Grav
Twitter really is being overrun by spammers these days. I hate it when people post a link to spam and then add a bunch of trending topics.
- Eric Florenzano
If anyone can put a comment system through its paces, its Leo =)
- Mac64
Even me, a twitter-nobody, just got 4 spammers yesterday using my handle in messages. Can this be stopped?
- Jason Miller
Wow, whenever I say anything on Twitter about a dozen spambots repeat it. With links to their, spammy, pages. Ick. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ghworg
Well you're doing a good well better than I am. I can barely scrape by, and having to write a big check while recently laid off takes some of the "joy" out of paying taxes.
- Kyle Sellers
long time listener first time caller... great attitude dr. laporte. paying taxes i don't mind, it's the wasteful and inane spending of those dollars that greatly dampens my mood... (to be clear, thats a dig at both houses of congress)
- Ted Bradford II
I don't really find a problem with taxes. I'm paying for the services I received for "Free." Essentially the government loaned me money to pay for roads, my student loans, things of that nature, and then they didn't charge me interest on that loan. It's really kind of cool. I just wish my employer wasn't taking forever to mail out a new copy of my W-2. I have to file for an extension because it hasn't arrived yet (my old one got trashed after my mom forwarded it to me).
- Ivan
i got to pay several grand last year. Wish i had your positive attitude then...thanks for bringing me back into a healthier perspective! We forget how fortunate we actually are!
- Lori Wilson
I don't get why anyone would mock a group of people organizing online to promote a cause they believe in. Isn't that how Obama got elected? The whole #teabag tag reminds me of a bunch of spoiled kids who don't want to share their toys (the internet).
- Kyle Sellers
Had to sign up just to say this: I don't mind paying taxes necessarily, such as sales tax and etc., but the Income Tax is wrong no matter what President or what party is in power. The govt. doesn't own my work, and giving them our hard earned money doesn't give them an incentive to shrink to Constitutional-approved levels.
- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy
I love the smell of sarcasm in the morning! :)
- jcunwired
I can hardly wait to find out if the money they have been withholding from each paycheck I've earned over the past year has been enough to cover the burden I've created for society by being born. Yay taxes!!!
- midnightgolfer
I understand that paying taxes is a responsibility/privilege as a citizen of this wonderful country. I do not mind paying my fair share. I get upset when those who spend these taxes do not see any responsibility themselves.
- Chris Gardner
Oh, I got soo much joy giving USPS my checks for $28,000 the other day (Year End & Q1), guess the government will do better with that money then me. I was just going to use it to buy a new car (and perhaps keep some people in jobs), nothing important.
- Craig Ochs
Kevin: That makes no sense. They either have the right to take your money or they don't. Saying it's okay for them to take your money when you pay someone else for something but not when someone pays you is just nonsensical.
- Ghworg
I must have been given a lot of opportunities, because I am paying a lot of tax. Happily? not so much. :(
- Bob Townsend
AIG, Goldman & GM executives thank you. It's not easy living in Manhattan & Connecticut on $50,000 a day. Your contribution helps!
- Adam Turetzky
midnightgolfer, that made me laugh out loud. lets just take the smartest, the most successful and the best looking out of the herd, leaving the "rest of us". then, the "rest of us" will drink the Jim Jones Kool Aid so that the burden will be far less on those left behind.
- Ted Bradford II
I like schools, interstates, bridges, libraries, clean water, police patrols, firemen - oh yeah and of course the military that protects us - so... I paid my taxes. Its okay #teaparty peeps - you can still use my roads and I won't sick the military on you. #teabag
- Ken Newton
Social Contract? Please explain. I dont see anything in the constitution that requires me to pay for people to stay in homes they couldn't afford in the first place, feed able bodied people that make no effort to sustain themselves, and subsidize banks, insurance companies, corporations and industries that have driven themselves into the ground by poor management. It is insanity to believe that the government is somehow better able to manage our lives better that we can ourselves.
- Jim Bednarz
ken newton... the things you mentioned are not wasteful spending.
- Ted Bradford II
@ Ghworg - There is a substantial difference between a direct tax (income) and an indirect tax (sales tax). Read up on your constitutional history, and the federalist papers. @ Ken Newton - Private business could do it better and cheaper... so try again. I started my day listening to the Housemartins... specifically the song called "Sheep."
- Jodon Bellofatto
Jim - That's what makes it a social contract and not an actual contract. It's inferred. We took care of approving it for you.
- Matthew DeVries
Got a tax credit for having a baby and for buying a house. The last time I will probably ever get money back from the government. I am enjoying it.
- Fleagle
Ghworg: I wouldn't mind getting rid of the sales tax too, but simply I think that's stretching it even farther than getting rid of the Federal Income Tax would. This country ran perfectly fine for it's first hundred or so years without a Fed Income Tax, until we began adding more and more social services as part of our federal government. Keep in mind originally the income tax was ruled unconstitutional: it took a Constitutional amendment to allow it to occur.
- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy
" Keep in mind originally the income tax was ruled unconstitutional: it took a Constitutional amendment to allow it to occur." and why did it get amended? Oh yeah, to save the bankers who ran their businesses into the ground! We're like a broken record. Keep the rich people rich at all costs!
- Adam Turetzky
I don't get these hard left Gilmor Gangistas, they are sooo out of touch with their Austro-libertarian listeners who want Ben Bernanke and Paul Krugman shot !
- Adrian
My wife and I work till May 23 for the federal government so we can bail out crooked bankers and lousy car companies.
- Joseph Kelley
My husband and I work until April or May, I think, but it's to pay $0.50 on the dollar for a war I don't agree with.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Then why not pay even more taxes? You'll be ecstatic.
- Morton Fox
Leo should pay me for being a devoted listener. Yeah, that's it...
- Mike Nayyar
While I think this whole #teabag thing is complete nonsense and just a publicity stunt for the Republican conservatives, I'm no fan of the Democrats either. Taxes are just one more way of a government to exert power over it's people, it's stupid. Throwing teabags in rivers in 2009 is even more stupid. Really want to send a signal? Don't pay your taxes. If everyone at these stupid teabageries would not pay their taxes, it'd have a hell of a lot more of an effect.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
@Ted Bradford II - you are correct. I have yet to hear a good reason for the #teaparty. Wasteful spending? Where did the 3 trillion go that was handed over to G.W. in '01? Oh yeah - its in the pockets of A.I.G. and Halliburton. That money would have gone a long way towards solving the current problem. Would we even be here if it wasn't for absurd tax cuts for corps and unmitigated spending over the last 8 years?
- Ken Newton
Glad your doing so well Leo, I too appreciate the opportunities the US has provided me so much so that I volunteered and served my country Militarily, I'm sure you have also, While I too have always honored (and will continue to do so) "my" social contract I only wish the politicians who work for "me" were "honorable" enough to reciprocate or perhaps I wish I had "your" money.
- Jim Kells
Don't mind paying taxes for appropriate functions of govt. Also, everyone should pay their fair share which is not happening today. The upper echelons of income earners are paying a disproportionate share of income taxes!
- Derek Cook
Due to circumstances beyond our control, Fiance and I got more than $5000 back this year. Hmmm...Ah well.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
FYI - anyone wishing to pay more taxes than they are required is free to do so. The IRS will let you do that.
- You.
"The upper echelons of income earners are paying a disproportionate share of income taxes!"...you're kidding me, right? While it may be true in terms of actual dollars, it is not even close in terms of the effect on a family's lifestyle. Those of us who are blessed with success should be willing to help our fellow Americans by giving back in amounts relative to the opportunities we have been given. In that way, others may hope to share in our success. When did we stop caring about each other?
- Peter May
I would be at a #teaparty today - but I am not part of the upper echelon upset about paying taxes. I wish they had more money to give to the gov so they can be bailed out again when they run their corps in the ground. Where were the #teaparty last year when the bailouts began?
- Ken Newton
@ Ken Newton - The original intent of the #teaparty was to admonish and speak out against both Republican and Democrat alike. Ironically, in many locations, it has been usurped by opportunists on both sides... which is why I will not be attending. And, yes, this economic situation was inevitable due to poor monetary policy that dates back to the Nixon/Carter days, and before then, the establishment of the Federal Reserve.
- Jodon Bellofatto
In this country, we _are_ the government. Anyone who isn't happy with their tax situation has only themselves to blame. Nutjobs who rail on about "the gubmint" stealing their money are hopelessly out of touch with reality and politically naive. Don't like the way things are going? Just use your powers of persuasion to convince the rest of us that you're right. Hint: blathering on about...
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- Brad Farris
from twhirl
Leo, this was a wonderful message to see this morning. Thank you for saying it.
- Karoli
@Brad um....you do realize that the government right now is controlled not by "us" but by the banks and corporations? That's just it..we became too lax and allowed the government to do things they should never even be doing. I would like to say that we should be taking all the blame, but it's not that simple. This all started back in the early 1900's. Our grandfathers and fathers started this whole mess. The minute they let the government step in and "cure" the depression, we the people lost control.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
@ Peter May: So taxes should be based "the effect on a family's lifestyle"? That is just wrong. Our tax system should be unbiased. Each American should be treated equally. While I do agree "those of us who are blessed with success should be willing to help" it should also be voluntary. That is part of why I'm a proponent of a flat percentage tax rate.
- ChiliMac
@Leo: Most of the people I know supporting the #teapartys would agree with your sentiment "Happily paying my taxes today. I appreciate the opportunities I have been given in this great country and honor our social contract". The issue we have is that the government is taking advantage of that and wasting our money. It is getting out of hand.
- ChiliMac
@Jodon Bellofatto - 'the establishment of the Federal Reserve' - thanks for bringing that up. I have been down that rabbit hole - and just lost sleep over it. I just realized my true objection is the distortion of the message by political pundits and corporate hacks. There be wisdom with you Jodon.
- Ken Newton
I seem to recall that the #teaparty had some issues with double-taxation. Like @Leo, I work for myself and gladly pay-in for the services I receive. However, in addition to Federal and State income taxes, I'm also taxed on gross receipts by the city of Los Angeles, and then 9.25% on everything I purchase. Sounds like we dumped tea for double-taxation, and now we get to eat cake. One of the things that I love about this country is that it allows for change. Probably time to reboot the system.
- Jeff Fischbach
And speaking of double taxation... every other tax you pay, you pay for with income which has already been taxed (some are allowed as deductions or credits, subject to limitations)... real estate tax, personal property tax, inheritance taxes, sales tax, inheritance tax, luxry taxes, sin taxes, etc.
- LogEx
Maybe if the politicians in Washington would have such an happy attitude about paying taxes we could pay for the 10 trillion dollar bailout of everyone-but-us.
- Mot Faerin
@Mike. I hear what you're saying, brother, but we live in the here and now. "The government" is you and I, friend. If it's not doing right by us, we have the power to fix it. Of course it's a hard job, but that's what living here is supposed to be about - doing the hard work to make our country function the way we want it to. It's hard to get the right people elected. It's hard to...
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- Brad Farris
from twhirl
What you call "crying about it" is actually rallying political support for change. The government can be influenced in other ways besides voting.
- You.
"Happily paying my taxes today" Must be enough left then. ;)
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
from twhirl
@Dave, If you're thinking that I'm opposed to "rallying political support for change," you're wrong. In fact, that's exactly what I've said I think should be done. There's a qualitative difference betweein "rallying political support for change" and simply whining about paying taxes. Don't confuse one with the other, and don't confuse "the government" with anything besides you and I.
- Brad Farris
from twhirl
what's the quantifiable difference? [edit] and who's doing the latter?
- You.
Taxes... got 5400$ back this year... massive REER investment (it's a Canadian thing)
- Julien Bérubé
Now that I think about it, isn't @Leo Canadian? That alone probably makes paying taxes here a relative-pleasure. On the other hand, he may just be pandering to avoid deportation.
- Jeff Fischbach
Sorry, Dave - where did you get the impression that I did that? I didn't mean to give that impression, and I certainly feel that it's good for our "conservative" friends to involve themselves in some organized public protest from time to time, just so they'll be able to understand how strongly those anti-war protesters feel when they get out there and hold up signs. I've looked back...
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- Brad Farris
from twhirl
You edited? Sorry, I answered the question you originally posed. I guess maybe you realized you'd overreached. It's all good.
- Brad Farris
from twhirl
It's not the paying that bothers me; it's that we get so little return on our money.
- Robert Hafer
Robert, you're getting a ton for your money. Unfortunately, half of it is military and with so much of that abroad right now, you don't get to 'see' what you've bought very much.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
What a nice little lemming. Hiel Geithner.
- Joanie
20% of it is in defense out of the entire budget, the 50% number is only true of the discretionary budget. The discretionary budget does not include Medicare and Social Security.
- RAPatton
Wow, a lot of single post people over here to give what they got to Leo. Why don't you folks stay and join the discussion on FriendFeed if you'd like to have real reasoned debate.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Robert, the discretionary budget is what actually comes from income taxes. Social Security has its own kitty and its own contributions, so it is deceptive to include in a breakdown of "where your taxes go" since most people assume "your taxes" implies the stuff that's due today.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We may be getting a ton for our money, but we are paying for 100 tons. 99 tons of waste.
- Robert Hafer
I am very well aware of where Social Security comes from and how its "surplus" is pillaged and about the Medicare shortfall. But if you are only talking income taxes 32.6% of people pay absolutely nothing for defense, unless you count the funds borrowed from Social Security.
- RAPatton
Paid mine yesterday, after having to call the IRS to get my AGI for last year to file THIS year. Sheesh.....
- Anita Pesola
Converse to that, Robert, is the fact that the people who are paying more towards the military by paying more of the overall tax burden are also in many cases the same people who are profiting the most from military action.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
"the people"? So, when you earn a certain dollar amount you profit more the military?
- RAPatton
Not what I meant. Military contractors, the companies that are receiving redevelopment contracts, etc. That's what I meant. Though, there are those that argue that the wealthy in general do benefit more from the military in general, since they have the greater assets to protect.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I heard that Comcast, the parent company of G4 TV, is in financial trouble, maybe some of your tax revenue can bail them out of the rut they're in. Love ya Leo, thanks for the pothole repairs!
- Matt Pak
@ChiliMac: Voluntary? Oh yeah, that would work. Imagine how much those pigs on Wall Street would pay if the system was voluntary.
- Peter May
@Peter May: My comment may not have been clear. I don' t think taxes should be voluntary, just non-discriminatory. The volunteerism I mention is the extra help. Let people give to charity if they want to help certain sectors of society. Our federal government should not be forcing that on us.
- ChiliMac
Leo, I'm glad to see people in positions of prominence such as yourself speaking out in support of the tax process. Too many people on Twitter are bemoaning the fact that they have to give back to their country.
- Eric Geller
Eric, many are not bemoaning that they have to "give" back, but what the government is doing with that money. Also I don't see it as giving as that word implies some choice in the matter. #teaparty
- John
We actually don't mind rendering unto caesar, either. It's just that when the caesars try to trade our children's future for today's bread and circuses, you gotta ask, "Is it time to cleanse the temple?" Also, give us a break, we're kinda' new to this whole loud street protest thing.
- midnightgolfer
Leo, I'm in debt a few thousand dollars because of taxes. If you'd like to help someone out and actually see positive results, let me know. I only need $4000 to pay my tax debt. What if you buy $4k worth of ads from me at: http://twilliondollarhomepage.com
- James Thomson
James Thomson, even I know that your ad here in these comments is lame.
- midnightgolfer
@midnightgolfer - why lame? Leo says he likes to pay taxes so why wouldn't he want to help one of his listeners pay their tax debt? It's a win-win situation. He gets an ad for 5 years, can deduct the expense on next year's taxes and it helps me pay off my tax debt. Hell, I don't care how I get the money... if he wants to just give me $4000 straight up that's fine too: http://twilliondollarhomepage.com
- James Thomson
If you have to ask... anyways, maybe it's just that I feel like twitter is already starting to get kind of spammy as it is.
- midnightgolfer
Leo, if you love paying taxes so much, why not donate even more money to the government or help someone else out that cannot afford it. I am unemployed, no income and have prescription drugs I need on top of my tax bill. Seriously, I don't understand your logic.
- James Thomson
@James I think he's saying that he feels he gets value for his dollar. Do you offer to pay more for something every time you feel this way?
- Edward Zwart
Same, it's quite repetitive stuff: birthdays, animals, food. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's a big part of social media. It can be found on YouTube, facebook and (shock, horror) Twitter too.
- jjprojects
... Oh and the "look at me" memes that are everywhere. There's a certain amount of attention seeking in social media of course, we're all included there really.
- jjprojects
I think FF is interesting, but it's not my needles in the haystack...yet
- Jeremiah Owyang
Totally agree! Maybe 1 item in the list is interesting.
- Jorg Jansen
The "best of the day" is based on your friends' entries, depending on the likes and comments from your friends. If your best of is low signal, your friends don't success in signaling interesting posts. That's why you should be careful at picking friends, and make good lists/filters to overcome the limitations of the feature.
- Jérôme Flipo
There're lots of filters shared publicly and in special rooms. Just build your own using e.g. likes:10, comments:5, like:(scobleizer techcrunch), comment:(parislemon), service:(friendeed delicious), etc.
- Jérôme Flipo
Even better, if you have good lists, you can make filters that only search in those lists. I've a list named "important", which only includes the best bloggers/journalists, and another one called "friends". I've created a filter "best of the best" that searches for: list:(important friends) likes:10 comment:5 (it searches for items in those two lists that have at least 10 likes and 5 comments ).
- Jérôme Flipo
Yep, I do filters too. Instead of "Best of day" (which tends to be a few days old), we need a "Best of this hour".
- Mike Reynolds
Ditto what Jérôme said: the ability to filter based on likes and comments means no one really needs to rely on the current BoD implementation. And honestly, why would I want to? It only shows me what's popular amongst the people I already interact with. I'd much rather see the popular items that I probably missed altogether because I wasn't subscribed to the poster.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
If filters had an "age of post" field, this would help. Or perhaps we should be allowed to define our own "Best of day"
- Mike Reynolds
The ability to sort by date has been requested, but the posts your filter returns should be sorted with most recently active on top just like the actual best of day...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Many are suggesting to create filters and lists. Listen: I don't want to work that hard. Honestly.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Setting aside the fact that creating such a filter on your own takes approximately 2 minutes, here http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... Click the link, and in the red bar at the top click 'create filter'. Items with 25 likes and comments that R. Scoble has liked.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Jeremiah: The Best of Day filter in the FF beta is a bit broken and just shows the best from your wider friends list. Previous commenters rightly point out that the per-list Best of Day is much more valuable and I'm sure we'll see it pushed into the beta soon.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Jeremiah: You don't want to work that hard? a) it's not hard as Tina has pointed out. b) one always has to 'work' with new technology. People said it was too hard to connect to the Internet, they still say it's too hard to install a browser, they said it was too difficult to search ("just find what I'm looking for when I type in 'find me that yellow thing'), or that phones are too complicated etc. etc.
- AJ Kohn
@Jeremiah: You don't want to create filters and lists? Are you hoping that FF will do a better job of guessing what you like by maybe leveraging your existing pattern of [Like]s? That's the only way I can see that they might be able to give you a good list without forcing you to build lists. You've already done the work of building a friends list, posting comments, and clicking [Like]s. That should give them a corpus to start from, but right now they're just picking up hot items from within your ...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
... various lists and it seems you've only got the one. Maybe the FF crew will read this and work on more personalized Best Of lists.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Best of day will never give you the droids you are looking for.
- Alex Scoble
The best of day on my tech list is VERY good (that is how I found this item) but I remove anyone from that list who posts a lot of noise.
- Robert Scoble
I don't look at it. It ends up being silly stuff that I've already seen.
- BEX
Robert: You use your own filter to get a best of a list, right? I can't find a way to "bestofize" lists without having to create a filter.
- Jérôme Flipo
I wish there was a way to hide entries from Lists, Best of Day/Week/Month, and all other areas of FF.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
You are all in the wrong communities :), mine includes "Creating a research community monoculture - just when we need diversity"; "My 1st pub finally published online! w00t!! New species of deep sea hydrothermal vent shrimp"; "What's better than R for exploratory data plots?"; "Longtime Nature editor John Maddox dead at 83: Scientific American Blog"; "Providing Some Structured Support with ChemSpider’s Wikipedia Services". Choose well and you'll be fine.
- Deepak Singh
Ironic, but that's how I found this! LOL
- Michael Fidler
BTW, I rarely use BoD, but I don't have a problem with those who do. It's a good place for new users to find people to follow. It's a lot better than the suggested followers list, because everyone here is at least active
- Michael Fidler
This post just made it to my best of day and only now do I agree.
- Josh Haley
I don't really check the BOD items generally because, they are MeMe's always floating around in my feed and when I have checked BOD they're the ones that are filling it anyway ;)
- Nicholas James
You don't want to "work that hard" to create lists and filters, and you're complaining about lack of signal. So you just want the people you follow to change for you? Don't think that's going to happen. You got to do something...
- Bwana ☠
@Bwana - please see my comment above. J has done the work of building a subscription list and a likes list, FF could do more with those in terms of BoD recommendations than it already does. J just wants things he'll probably be interested in without having to build Yet Another List. Even a "more stories like this" trainer for the BoD list would help.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel - I submit he needs to follow different people if his BoD sucks. I think it's pretty simple.
- Bwana ☠
I don't think FF can guess what he likes. That's my opinion
- Bwana ☠
Saying he doesn't "give a crap" about what is obviously popular to many others does not bode well for him. In fact, it's a bit insulting.
- Josh Haley
Jeremiah's media presence gives him a very different perspective on social media than most users get. Little people come to him with stories, and he flies out to client sites to meet face to face with big people. For most of us it's just two-way chats with other little people and the occasional unanswered tweet to big people.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
That's true enough, Daniel, but in that position perhaps he should follow the people who bring him the stories. Apparently the people he follows now don't do that.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I just looked through his list of 357 subs, it looks like mostly big name bloggers and social startup employees. Is that a bad list? Should he be more focused on B- and C-list bloggers in his niche so he can keep his ears closer to the ground?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
BTW my above comments are in no way meant to insult Jeremiah. I'm just thinking this is an extension of the "web celebs love twitter because they can treat it as their own personal investigation service yet no one ever answers *my* questions" discussion.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
daniel, i find it ironic that this thread has been in my bod since yesterday, jeremiah and i subscribe to each other via numerous services so i assume he'll see this and respond at some point - for me bod is a quick filter of all my subs that allows me to catch really active threads i might have missed, which is exactly how i found this one - functionality success :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
But mike, if you were Jeremiah, you wouldn't give a crap about this thread :)
- Bwana ☠
Jason, what kept them from winning TC50? I watched all the presentations on ustream and really thought they had the best product and business potential.
- David Ward
David: I think they are a very close second to Yammer. Intelligent folks can argue either ones merits, but I think Yammer is going to be a bigger business. of course the prize at TC50 is determined by two votes at the end of the day: me and Mike. It's highly imperfect, but we're very comfortable with our selection of Mint last year and Yammer this year.
- Jason Calacanis
They're both great ideas that boil down to execution.The question is will GoodGuide become a household name to consumers before Yammer can overcome the tech-related security issues they face in the workplace?
- Mohammad Ocean
but the buttons to click on were so.....BIG
- Josh Haley
alright everyone... really it is past time for this, but we need to re-start a major boycott of buying cds or downloading music... it's time to fully get into the pirate mode and show the RIAA... they shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them.
- Harold
I was going to click on "like", but it didn't seem right somehow. If I *can* buy from the artist directly, I *will* be from now on.
- Karen Mohler
The majority of citizens polled say they'd rather elect a gay than an atheist. I'm guessing at least 3 more presidents before we even elect an agnostic (maybe he'll/she'll be gay!)
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I'm 33 and don't imagine we'll elect a non self-described Christian in my lifetime.
- Michelle Jones
At least we're moving in the direction where it doesn't seem so impossible anymore
- Herb Hernandez
Well, we are a christian nation. At least according to an abc poll 83% of americans claim to be christian.
- Steve Helder
from twhirl
Leo, dang I personally miss the TechTv days... alas, the powers that be are absolving all reference to the Great I AM, but HE's got that covered too, Amen?
- Dan
from twhirl
why is that bad? we were founded on Christian Beliefs even if freedom of religion is guarenteed. "In God We Trust" is in our country's DNA
- John Head
from twhirl
John, you've just shown you know absolutely nothing about what this country was founded on.
- Jeff Jones
Jeff, I disagree, John is right. I've studied our history and we are founded on the Bible...
- Douglas Porter
from twhirl
doubtful considering the constituents, though perhaps a non-christian president in your lifetime.
- xero
John, Douglas, please reread the Constitution. Nowhere will you find a reference to Christianity or the Bible. At best the majority of the founding fathers were deists. Then read Jefferson's writings from that period. These days he'd be considered a non-believer. BTW-"In God We Trust" was added to coinage and paper money in 1954 as a reaction to the Communist threat.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
@Jeff Jones, I have to agree with @John Head. Christian morals and beliefs founded the USA. However, they felt tolerance of other religions (mainly other denominations) was important. Very few of the founding influential would even publicly consider atheism as viably PC at the time; the populace just wouldn't have it. If those governing the public did not answer to anyone other than themselves, the public would have felt the system corrupt. 1st amendment must be read in concert with the constitution.
- xero
@Jack Carlson, privately deist perhaps (many were mason's after all), but publicly Christian en masse, at least in legislative writing. You'll be hard-pressed to find a reference to "a god" or "whatever god" except when speaking specifically cross-religion. You'll find "God" and "our God" on many more of the public documents they wrote. Given, our fear of communism did change many things we see today to include a reference to "God", such as the coinage and pledge. Good point btw, and TJ was an exception
- xero
Quote seen on http://www.netalive.org/topics... "Deism says it is rationality and reason that leads to God. To the Deist, the evidence is the creation and the idea of what brought about the evidence is the Creator." It seems that, like an atheist, a deist is also an anti-religious rationalist, only having reached a different conclusion. I once called 18th century deists "the athiests of their day" and after reading some more about deism, I think I still stand by that.
- Pierre Houston
Tell me about it. But in reality it makes sense. Only about 4 out of a thousand people in the U.S. identify themselves as Atheist, 5 more of the same thousand identify as Agnostic. That doesn't serve well for democratic elections.:)
- Dereck
we have trouble electing non-protestant christians (exactly one catholic: john f. kennedy has been elected president). baby steps leo. baby steps. ... @xero, "God" and "our God" doesn't mean "Christian." it just means believer in God.
- tiffany
... and someone please explain what values you are defining as "Christian"
- tiffany
"God" is the basic Christian/Jewish god, why not "god(s)" or "Allah" or "Shiva" or "Zeus" or "the Creator(s)" or even better, why even bother mentioning a deity or creator? Given, references are mixed, but they really didn't need a reference at all, ever.
- xero
A better question might be to speculate whether the United States will still be around at the end of our generation. Ina form we'd recognize, at least.
- Chris Baskind
To those asking if one would want a non-Christian president: One does not need to be a Christian to have Christian values - or, indeed, the values held up by any religion.
- Christian Leonard Quale
from twhirl
One advantage to being publicly identified as an atheist; neither party likes you very much, they tend to leave you alone. Dem's are as theistic as Rep's.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
If this were my world, then the 3 best Rugby Front Rowers would form a Trinity of Political Power, making decisions for everyone. These decisions would consist of Meat Pies and probably copious amounts of Ambrosia (or "beer" as some people would call it). We Aussies know how to make good pies.
- Stu Andrews
from twhirl
For those claiming the US was founded on Christianity and the Bible, please show me more similarities between the Constitution vs. the Bible as compared to the writings of Thomas Paine.
- Jason Carreira
personally, i think we may be confusing being Founded On The Bible to being founded in the context of Christianity. and +1 Jason Carreira
- idnan
All this religious stuff is bullshit. What a waste of time. Why don't we start talking about investing in the infrastructure in this country instead of Iraq, education, healthcare, Mcain's 10 mansions @xero; Christian morals and beliefs founded the USA? Really? So enslaving people, killing off an entire race of people, and making money are Christian values?
- PC Easy
@PC Easy: Actually, making money is one of the more highly-regarded Christian values. Google 'Puritan Ethic'. Or visit a cathedral.
- Derrick Burns
Why is it that there are people who, regardless of religious background or belief, do not accept that the Judeo-Christian morals and values are what drove the writing of the US Constitution? "Thou shalt not kill" is a basic tenet of the US legal system, is it not? Do you have to be a member of a Judeo-Christian religious group to believe it is wrong to murder someone?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from twhirl
@Mark VandenBerg - Whoa, so are you saying that you need to have "Judeo-Christian morals and values" to believe that murder is wrong? Maybe I missed your point, but I hope that's not what you're saying.
- Herb Hernandez
No, that wasn't what I was saying. That murder is wrong is widely accepted as a Judeo-Christian tenet, and also accepted as morally wrong in the US. I made a (poorly worded) co-relative observation. Other societies have the same stance. Can we agree on those two points? If we can, is it a stretch to say that the morals and values of Judeo-Christianity have influenced the US society?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from twhirl
Influence? Sure.. However, that's quite different than saying we were founded on those beliefs.
- Herb Hernandez
As I wrote, "poorly worded." It's early, lack of coffee, yadayadayada... I'll reword my question: Why are there people who adamantly refuse to accept that the norms, mores and values in the US society today have been influenced by past religious-based regimes such as (but not limited to) the Roman Catholic Church which ruled most of Europe for centuries? I don't see the connection...
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- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from twhirl
@gregory lent More importantly: Why are there such factious lines, politically, in the US that the religious beliefs of an elected official are of any more than limited importance? If the the values of the society itself were originally influenced by Judeo-Christian religious institutions, doesn't the society in general have the same base of values? Why is it abhorent to some that an...
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- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from twhirl
abhorrent to have an elected official be religious? There's only a handful of federal elected officials who are NOT! Why is it abhorrent to the majority to have an elected official who is NOT religious? Can they not separate morality and ethics from religion and see how someone could be moral and ethical without being religious? Freedom of religion should mean freedom NOT to believe, as well, but so far not in this country.
- Jason Carreira
@ Jason Carreira Exactly! The corollaries are almost always true, and I was remiss for not stating so. I share your lament that, apparently, the average person can not seem to make the distinction that you worded so precisely. That the average person is so shallow philosophically is demonstrated by the elected officials put forth by this society, and especially by the ineptness of those very officials!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
@gregory lent You had me until the whole "...being religious should bar one..." statement. Now who's being narrow minded? Of course the values of a particular society evolve with time. No one could argue that the two presidential candidates currently running for office in the US could not have done so 100 years ago simply because of this issue . But I agree with everything else in your post. (and always enjoy some good snark!)
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Considering proven battery drainage of Bluetooth, do you think Bluetooth API is a smart direction? I don't. Especially since these handsets are marketed specifically for business users... btw, I'm a huge fan of the Android project and want to see the handsets compete against the iPhone (successfully)
- Mona Nomura
@Mona N. Compared to other radios that you could have on a mobile phone (3G, Wifi, GSM, etc), Bluetooth is the least power hungry.
- Jason Chen
I wish I could run this on my N73. S60's nice, but it's not pretty (and I like trying new things).@Mona N. Bluetooth power consumption varies from device to device. My T-Mo Dash had horrible battery life with Bluetooth, but my N73 can run data over Bluetooth all day and not drain more than 20% battery power. @accesine Not likely. It's not a phone and it lacks the same interface architecture as a phone.
- Ivan
I love how everyone is jumping on this message without actually talking to Justin about what is going on. It looks like he voluntarily shut it down.
- Bjorn Stromberg
Good. Hopefully the RIAA will make Muxtape implement a volume-control feature.
- ·[▪_▪]·
Wow. I really like this! Makes you wonder why some cutting-edge-wanna-be like CNN isn't doing something like this.
- Ivan
Actually I dropped the GigaOm twitter account because it only ever tweeted links to the latest posts.What I like about twitter is the human voice, the editorial input, see @marshallk or @timoreilly. We'll see how the Daily works though when it's up and running.
- shay
I've noticed that I'm getting tired of it too. We really need a much better way to talk to the database on FriendFeed. I'd love to see all items in a real reverse-chronilogical view (no bubbling up of attention-getting items), along with only displaying items that get two likes or more and one or more comments. Imagine if you could do that? Now imagine if you could filter out things. Like, remove anything with Obama or McCain in them. That would let me build a much better news river than I can get anywhere else.
- Robert Scoble
I think that the bubble effect works well if you have subscribed to just a few people but I would think that if you have thousands of "friends" then it would be almost impossiable to keep up. I did like the idea that somebody suggest of being able to tag some of you friends as real and then either giving them higher priority or creating another tab with just their feeds in.
- John Cooper
When TiVoing the Olympics and not wanting to read spoilers, I'd filter out Olympics, Phelps, etc.
- JD Lasica
I agree a keyword filter would be great, and it should be reasonable to implement a feature like that. As for the bubbling, I'd like to keep that for me.
- Thomas Frütel
the true leading edge doesn't have a community, as there are very few who are there
- clarke thomas
if they only displayed items that inky had 2 or more likes, or at least one comment, then no one would see anything, since in order for it to appear, it needs to be liked. In order to be liked, it needs to appear.
- Andru Edwards
I think Robert (and the rest o'yaz) are right that better filtering is needed. I know noiseriver and some others are working on this (and of course the FF team.) Would be great to "weight" people, services, and keywords...
- Anthony Citrano
Some of you apparently need a "Web Service of the Month Club" membership. ;)
- abacab
Filtering and chronological sorting, setting like tolerances is all possible with the current API. Adding data to people (like weights) would requires a database. I think it would be cool to have a 2 column layout, the left column in true chronological order and the right with standard "bubbled up" content.
- Paul Reynolds
Bubbling is essential to maintain a conversation. Without it, everything becomes even more ephemeral. Just hide what you're done with.
- LogEx
Robert - I found this item through Google Reader (I subscribe to Friendfeed - Best of Day, which I flow to my A feeds folder). Because of the noise and information overload issue, I've pretty much given up trying to use Friendfeed by browsing from http://friendfeed.com/
- Sean McBride
@Scoble - sounds like mioNews might do what you want if I could just get the relevance ranking engine turned back on. It is designed to auto-filter out the stuff you've "hated" in the past and bring up to the top the stuff you've liked in the past.
- Patrick Lightbody
from mioNews
Allowing you an *option* to rate your contacts on a 1-10 scale and then allowing a best of hour, day, week, month incorporating these ratings into the algorithm would at a minimum produce an alternative "best of." And probably more relevant than relying only on social metadata (likes, comments) alone. This tool could also be used for custom filtering certain subsets of contacts as well. Eg. Show me content from all contacts rated 6 or higher, etc.
- Thomas Hawk
I love it more than ever. Last week though, I did do some artful pruning of my subscriptions, and that has toned up my experience. Agree strongly with the request for friend grouping and friend weighting. Vital. In my opinion this functionality is FriendFeed's "fire alarm" and it's what they need to implement soon to balance things out.
- Steve Isaacs
If enough users begin to filter out items based on the number of comments and/or the number of likes, how would anyone see anything at all? Everything would be filtered out and nothing would get through. What am I missing here? I understand filtering certain types of content (e.g., Twitter, etc.) but I don't understand filtering based on the number of comments or likes.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
You just can't treat FriendFeed like Twitter, subscribe to a massive number of people, and expect a good experience. Although I like the ideas that Robert suggested, and would like to see them implemented, I also think that the best way to control the noise, at least for now, is through thoughtful subscriptions. FriendFeed currently remains for me now what Yahoo! was for me in 1996: the center of the web.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Gregory: there would still be those of us who like seeing all the noise and "liking" the best of it.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, that's a good point. I guess I would be one wanting to see the noise for fear of missing something no one else thought was valuable. For now any way.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
And use rooms effectively. They can be a great asset if the right people join and participate
- Deepak Singh
While the FF UI is far from perfect at this point, it's pretty annoying to hear a certain class of people who incessantly whine about how they suffer from information overload when they subscribe to thousands of people. Allow me to humbly suggest that the problem *isn't* some deficiency in the UI, but rather the problem is that *you subscribe to thousands of people*. The unmanageable noise level is your own fault.
- Eric P
The biggest feature for me would be to auto-detect and merge the multiple posts about the same article... Make the new submission a like or comment on the original, but keep it all in one place.
- Jason Carreira
Eric, I wouldn't go so far as to say that 'you're doing it wrong'. Those use cases are valid ones. You can't design a customer-facing product and then demand that they only use it within a strict set of guidelines. FriendFeed needs to mature to handle the Scobles of the world as well as the Moskovitzes. Although I think that subscription maintenance is part of the process, at least for now, I don't think that wanting the product to fit your personal use case is call to accuse anyone of 'whining'.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Eric -- at the moment I am subscribed to 78 people (not thousands) (and have 117 people subscribed to me). The problem is fine-tuning the stream to push the best *combinations* of people, topics, links and comments to the top of my queue. So far I am relying on Google Reader to try do the job. When Robert Scoble remarks, "I've noticed that I'm getting tired of it too," perhaps one should listen and understand.
- Sean McBride
I have a problem with only wanting to see items that are liked. Then you only see top 10ers. If I have something to contribute, you may never see it. Kind of turns it into Digg. I like the fact that it's easy to see smaller conversations easily. Filters for keywords would be nice, though.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Sure Friendfeed could continue to evolve and improve its service. However, I would posit a theory that perhaps the "shiny newness" of it all is wearing off. It is the problem with the echo chamber, it is too hard to stick to the new services when it takes so much time to play with new things coming out in a torrid pace. Sure some will disagree with me but I think this contributes to it to a great extent.
- Lou Paglia
I was using it a lot less lately myself and wondering the same thing. I've unsubscribed from a lot of the social net noise and found that this has freshened up the experience a lot.
- Nick
What Nick said. I think it's a much more interesting place if you avoid those who are FFing about FF and so on.
- Anthony Citrano
I think it's Shiny Object syndrome, too (not referring directly to Robert here). FF has been slow on releasing new features. Some overhaul of the interface and taking up the many suggestions forwarded by its most active users would be a well-timed move.
- Chris Baskind
Too much noise on Friendfeed, and by the time I get around to replying to it, the conversations are over.
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: how can the conversation be over if you have something to say?
- Brian Sullivan
I still really like FriendFeed, but when you are busy doing many things, it is harder to keep up with the key discussion items and people you need to follow the most. I think FF will find ways of making this easier in time. I find I need breaks from all socnets periodically to keep my life and focus in balance. The breaks help prevent "Shiny Object Syndrome" and fatigue.;-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
@francine: two things cut down on the FF noise for me: 1) i 'like' all of the threads i find interesting, and then go to the 'ME' tab to keep up with them or comment on them later; 2) i 'hide' everything that's not of interest.
- .LAG liked that
Firstly, no one should need to apologize that they are using a website or not. Really! Anyway, I've always likened FF to chat, and I'm not a big fan of chat rooms. Something about FF seems to emphasize the immediate. I think this is what Francine refers too. There are some vauable nuggest of info, but I'm really not seeing the same richness of 'conversation' I find in blogs and blog...
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- bernie
My FriendFeed experience is still good. Agree with those who recommend "thoughtful subscription". Remember too - it's searchable. I think the archival aspect is just as important as the real-time aspect.
- Neil Saunders
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - FriendFeed needs the ability to collect friends into groups - and be able to view the feed of a single group.
- Jonathan Beckett
very cool. It's really neat to see each tag grow "real time"
- Josh Smith
Ooh, watching the cloud is pretty addictive... Must. Stop. Watching.
- Brad Brooks
its cool..but. I tried to look for words like "business" and it gave no results. Can it really be that no word "business" is mentioned in all that sea of Twitters or is that a bug?
- Hayk H.
but it can be real irrelevant, just because a lot of commonly used words, like 'everywhere', will show up.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
minor bugs here. But the battery life definitely sucks with 3G. I had to reinstall the Pandora app after it wouldn't load. Some random browser close downs, sometimes the screen won't rotate horizontally on flickr. Little things, but definitely some bugs.
- Thomas Hawk
Probably the worse problem is the battery! With all the power hungry applications and screen you lucky if you get 2 hours of usage on full charge! After a multitude of recharges your battery ability to hold a charge will diminish. I would bet that after 100 charges that 2 hours will go down close to 1 hour! But it is just guessing! Has apple released the battery statistics? Big problems for a 600 usd phone! Bad news for Apple branding!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
How much does a replacement battery cost? And if you buy non OEM battery you will void your warranty!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Reinstalled the software. Still have incredibly long backup/sync times. Random crashes and reboots. I feel like I've gone back to Windows 3.0. This phone would not have succeeded if 1.0 was like this.
- iSteeve
Battery is not a software issue per se, though it can be optimized there. 3G and GPS really just tax the battery. It's the same on all 3G devices...
- Jonathan Greene
I'm glad my contract isn't up until Nov. Hopefully they have all the kinks worked out.
- Bryan Clark
I haven't fully road tested it yet but I was nearly caught out by a 20% left on your battery after an usual day of 8 hours disconnected from the USB lead... think Ill have to leave 3G off to see if that makes a difference and possibly Wifi when not in use.... didnt really have battery issues on Iphone 1.0
- David W
totally agree ... I have applications that crash and my battery dies instantly
- Nick O'Neill
The clear signal I am hearing here: don't buy the iPhone 2.0 in its current incarnation. This is why I never rush out to buy a new anything (not to mention wait in lines) -- wait for real world feedback from smart users.
- Sean McBride
I tested and bought iPhone 1.0 on the first evening. It was the most bug free product (not just 1.0 product) I've ever seen. It lived up to its hype. Software 2.0 has taken it down several notches, hopefully temporarily. I am sure Steve Jobs is not happy atm. I expect at least one software update within the next 2 weeks.
- iSteeve
it still is better than all my other phones.
- Robert Scoble
other than screwy GPS, seems to work ok. I'm going to see if a restore offers any relief.
- Tom Landini
ok, let's speak about windows mobile? ;)
- Dorian Tireli
Me and 3 other guys in the USA are still hanging on to our blackberries and kdding ourselves they are better than iphones so ha!
- Cody Heitschmidt
robert you won't believe this but I'm actually enjoying the Treo 800W. It has a TON of tweaking, but if the battery life is acceptable, the BB may have reason to fear. N95 still best camera for non-slr-lugging.
- Andrew Feinberg
definitely buggy but I think the battery life is typical of 3G devices. I've read reviews of the bold which complain about the same thing.
- Judi Sohn
I love my crackberry...no need to "downgrade" to iPhone until it has AT LEAST the same core features I had before July 11th rollout.
- Susan Beebe
My GPS just doesnt work at all! When i first got it, it found me. Once, and only once has it worked. Wont even find me by cell towers or anything, just sits and spins untill i quit out or stop it. Epic fail, not happy..
- Simon Wicks
Re: Battery life. Definitely not the case for all 3G devices. My Nokia E71 works all day and would work well into the next day as well. Similar case for many 3G phones I've tested
- Didi Chanoch
xv6800 will go 2+ days, syncing Exchange & another account, frequent web use, on 3G. Granted, if iPhone were as thin as xv6800, I'm sure it could match it with a slightly less thin battery. I use "thin" in jest, xv6800.
- Wade Dorrell
Oh oh, I'm going to have to rethink my planned purchase
- Nitin Badjatia
I've also experienced some bugs. Mostly centered around some poor app performance, meaning crashes and what not, as well as lag times and some pretty uncomfortable reboots. All in all 2.0 is worth it for the apps, but needs stability patches for sure.
- Andrew Dobrow
My Blackberry Thunder/Storm/Touchscreen battery lasts for days. Oh wait they still haven't released a touchscreen.
- Cody Heitschmidt
guess i'll keep waitin', jb 1.1.2 apps still work great :)
- videopixil
from twhirl
like any Apple x.0 release. we are the beta testers :-)
- Jamie
i like knowing how many updates ive done, please dont take that away from me :(
- Simon Wicks
I don't think it looked cheap; I think the tabs being integrated into the side bar looks a lot better than how it is now. It's not an extensive redesign, but I like it better than the current layout.
- Cheryl Jones
The conversational-centric-ness is making Friendfeed a pretty noisy place. I'm still trying to get use to the noise. On Twitter, it's like streams of silent messages; pretty much 'In space, no one can hear you scream'. On Friendfeed, it's like being in a bar on a Saturday night!
- Yung-Hui Lim
I'll continue to use both - FF is quite nice for other reasons, and when Twitter goes down, it's still up.
- Dossy Shiobara
Twitter is the Cliff Notes of Friendfeed. Quick and easy & you get the gist.
- Stephen Terlizzi
For me, it's like friends with benefits and evaporates when my true love returns.
- Francine Hardaway
FF is like digg with a twist. And you know who the people commenting on your posts. Well. most of the time. Would be nice to get a mobile widget of FF like Tinytwitter. Maybe there's one that I don't know about.
- Carolyn Chan
Twitter is like a topping on FriendFeed's pizza. Everybody loves pizza. Not everybody agrees on toppings.
- Louis Gray
FF is the Killer! It centralizes discussions and lets things bubble up to the surface! Everything is Transparent!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Twitter is my Best Friend... Friend Feed is my Book Club... there's more 'deep conversation' over here - but I don't always want every conversation to either be non-existent or terribly deep. Sometimes I just want to twitter like a little bird.
- Lucretia Pruitt
they're becoming complementary tools for me
- .LAG liked that
I'm starting to get annoyed by the repetition of things here, i.e., if Louis Gray shares an item on Google Reader, then over the course of the day 10 or 15 other people share the same item (or Digg, Stumble, etc.). The comments fragment, and the number of items to browse through multiply.
- Kirk Kittell
However, I like both Twitter and FriendFeed. They're different tools for me, and generally reach different subsets of people.
- Kirk Kittell
I like FF - I love Twitter - FF needs to be organized differently, I think - it doesn't have the right logical setup for me
- Renee Hendricks
I'm a newbie on FF. I have twhirl configured to show FF side by side with Twitter. I like the conversational aspect of FF, the ticker-tape-like stream of thought of Twitter.
- Mark Dixon
from twhirl
I'm sure people will complain about twitter when it fails to work, but when they manage to kick themselves and make it work, people will flock back. Twitter can't be beat imo for mobile interaction, or to track things of interest, but both of these are down, so it has no value for me. As I said on my blog I quit twitter so if it works I'm happy but if it doesn't pan out I'm not disappointed
- BCK
Dave looks like Loren still has a Love affair with you! What did you do to the guy?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Actually, who cares. Everything is a summer love. Some summers happen to be longer than others. So, excuse me but there's really nothing intellectual to discuss here as in which is better. Don't like it, don't use it. Simple.
- Carolyn Chan
I use Twitter and Google Reader to find interesting articles to send to FriendFeed.
- Elizabeth
I just posted something to Twtiter, first time in over a day. Still on FF though :-)
- Duncan Riley
I like FF! Once you get a set of people around you who do not try to inflate their Egos and show how great they are, it is really a cool place! We just share ideas! Dave am I on topic? LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I use FF most of the time. I post messages to Twitter, but that's because they get sent to FF anyway. Better discussion in FF.
- David Sim
scoble - how do you determine that it is the #1 iPhone app? it's neither the #1 free app or the #1 paid app, or the #1 free game (iMaze seems to have it beat).
- Scott Gatz
Um, Robert, Nate True made Tap Tap Revenge. He is sitting right next to me, and has no knowledge of this interview. I think you are very, very mistaken.
- Andru Edwards
If you are interviewing the CEO of Tapulous, that is different, but he has almost nothing to do with TTR other than paying for it.
- Andru Edwards
yes, I didn't know Nate True was author of this app until I interviewed Tapulous' CEO.
- Robert Scoble
Waiting for countless Moby Dick references. Go.
- Shawn Farner
@rahsheen - agreed. switched it to "Twitter draws closer to harpooning the Fail Whale"
- MG Siegler
i've definitely enjoyed the increased uptime. but they shouldn't even announce progress until we can reliably go back say ten pages into older tweets. I'm also frustrated by the never ending error messages from my twitter clients (twhirl on my pc and twitterific on my mac) saying i've exceeded 70 requests per hour. nevertheless, i am a bit excited that constant downtime may be a thing of the past.
- mike
@mike - yeah i thought it was a bit early to trumpet a success at first too (mission: accomplished anyone?) but then again those are some pretty solid numbers and twitter did kick ass yesterday with its 30 minute maintenance in a two hour window.
- MG Siegler
All they need to do is move their offices to Nantucket.
- Jonathan Beckett
Great title! Twitter does need to stop blowing so badly.
- wrecks
Does this improvement correlate to the addition of Pivotal Labs to the Twitter team?
- AJ Kohn
Tell me that headline is suppose to be ironic:-) What happens when you fill the blowhole on a whale?...think about it
- Duncan Riley
OpenMoko sounded cool, but after using my N73 for so long, and the T-Mobile Dash before that, I'm starting to wonder if OpenMoko can really make a dent? Palm OS 5 has tons of apps, iPhone (unofficially) has plenty of useful apps, WinMo's got plenty of apps, Series 60 has loads of unique and interesting apps, OpenMoko has... what? It's a touch phone with open source software. So what?...
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- Ivan
from twhirl
Can't open the Link. Just main interface...
- Ansgar Wollnik
Holy Cow....it is bigger than flikr.....scarry
- Matt
from twhirl
540 terabytes doesn't seem all that big.
- Louis Gray
It may be bigger than flickr but the pictures are actually used on flickr rather than being locked up to a profile and a few hundred friends.
- Rahul Das
it's a lot, especially considering they downsample images. i.e. your 1.2mb jpg gets reduced to 128kb on FB. The original resolution is lost. So 540 TB is a lot of downsampled images!
- Mark J. Feldman
Flickr has about 2.5 billion images.
- Ole Begemann
I suspect that Gmail has both more images, and more image data. Email is still what many "regular" people use for photo sharing, amazingly.
- Paul Buchheit
540TB is puny for 30B images. 19.3KB/photo average. SmugMug has more storage and only ~325M photos.
- Don MacAskill
Facebook limits photos to 5Mb each and 50 photos per album, though.
- Prolific Programmer
again, I'll pay my yearly fee for Flickr. sorry Facebook.
- Andrew Feinberg
Is that photos or images in total? Could be lots of 1-20K png and gifs for apps
- Cris Pearson
from twhirl
The ratio on comments on my Facebook photos to comments on my Flickr photos is probably about 20:1, despite the ratio of number of Facebook photos to number of Flickr photos being about 1:10. Comments are nice, especially for hacks like me that aren't going to get any attention -- deservedly so -- from the folks on Flickr.
- Kirk Kittell
@Andrew: Do I trust them to host my photos? Is that what you mean? Or is that a more general question?
- Kirk Kittell
I mean do you trust them to host your photos and not use them without your permission? Their TOS lets them use your information for promotional purposes and sell to advertisers. Flickr lets you choose how your photos are licensed. Think about it.
- Andrew Feinberg
I use a non-commercial license on Flickr. However, it's a minor issue to me how Facebook handles the photos. The primary reason I use Facebook to share photos is because I will get some reaction from my contacts. I'd trade that aspect for losing control of a few photos any day. If I wasn't a hack, I might change my stance. But I'm a hack. If I don't share on Facebook, I have no reason to think anyone sees my photos, and that's a loss, I think.
- Kirk Kittell
@Andrew Feinberg: I think that's an excellent point, but I think you'd be shocked at how many people just don't care. First, the re-use of their photos isn't important to them, second, they think their photos aren't worth re-using, and third, they think of it as a cost to pay for the free service. I don't get it, but tons of people think that way.
- Don MacAskill
Photography for me is a hobby, so I don't care what anyone does with my pictures. Indeed, all on flickr are CC-licensed.
- Prolific Programmer
Mine are CC also and have been used by some high-traffic blogs and others. But, the choice to allow that is mine alone. Facebook has enough money and user data, they don't need anything else from me.
- Andrew Feinberg
@Andrew - I'd trust Facebook over Flickr, since it's not Flickr's policies you should be worrying about, it's Yahoo's - and they definitely have not been playing nice with Flickr users since they took over ...
- cerement
@Prolific Programmer The limit for photo's is 60, 3 pages of 20!
- Joe Dawson
I don't think that comparing sheer volume really tells anyone anything useful. It's not surprising to me that Facebook would lead on this metric - people literally dump their whole memory card there, uploading hundreds of snapshots from the same party. But all photos are not created equal, and what I've never seen on Facebook though is anything that might be considered *photography*. For that, Flickr clearly rules the roost.
- Eric P