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Christopher Sacca
Fundamentalist Christians make good project managers because they have unrealistic expectations of what can be done in 7 days.
It is posts like this when I can tell there is something going on with the interactivity decline on FF. Not a single comment or reaction among 6300 subs? - Christopher Sacca
I think you just validated your assumption. - Omar Shahine
Chris, there's a lot of noise on your Twitter feed in FF -- many @ replies most people could care less about. I'd expect that many of your FF subscribers have hidden your Twitter entries. - Daniel Dulitz
Doesn't that seem like a FF problem then? I mean, Twitter experimented with tuning the reply noise. Maybe FF would do the same? - Christopher Sacca
What sort of reaction were you expecting to this post? - Doug Beeferman
On Twitter and FB there were a lot of laughs, shares, complaints, corrections that it should be 6 days, etc. Just a lot more interaction. It just feels like early on, when I only had a few subs on FF, there used to be a lot more interaction. I feel like Dulitz is probably most right, but there is no way for me to tune the replies down. Both Twitter and FB seemed to get that and filter on them to audiences who might care. I wish we could do the same here. - Christopher Sacca
I think the interactivity in FF has been segregated into many small conversions after FF implemented the groups. - imabonehead
That is likely a factor too. Agreed. - Christopher Sacca
What is a day? Is it the same for all? Large or small? ;-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
I'm agnostic, so I don't have much to say other than that statement is funny. :) - imabonehead
Christopher, lot of the big names (and others, too) on FF totally ignore anything being cross-posted from Twitter. I learned this a while back. If you really want interactivity from FF, you have to post *to* FF, and not just feed it from somewhere else. I was saddened by this, but that's what it's turned into. - Joey Gibson
Chris, it's an FF problem for you (and probably a big reason why FF never took off), but for me it's a selling point. The FF userbase is different than the FB userbase. I subscribe to people on FF for their insight first, and only secondarily for entertainment. I think the average FB comment is very different, more fluffy, less serious. For a good social platform, I think the insight-driven folks and the entertainment driven folks need to balance. I don't know how to get that in FB. - Daniel Dulitz
Christopher: I've noticed a decline in engagement too, but funny enough, every time I bring it up I get engagement again. :-) - Robert Scoble
It is because there is a crowd following you Robert. - Mathew A. Koeneker
I haven't noticed any fall off on FF. - Chrimmus Tad
Well, I thought it was funny. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
You get engagement when you talk about engagement declining on FriendFeed, because everybody here is interested in FriendFeed. Probably fewer people are interested in project management jokes; sorry. - Bruce Lewis
You must be buddies with Rob Sellen. - Rochelle
I think I can now confidently state that I now only get engagement when Scoble comments on my stuff. :) - Christopher Sacca
dude, you should be honored when he comments on your posts. :P - imabonehead
Heheh. I didn't start commenting on this until after you got engagement. - Robert Scoble
Made me chuckle - Herb Hernandez from iPhone
Daniel, you nailed it. For me, FriendFeed is a superior interface for reading discussions about issues and news stories of interest to me and my contacts. So far I've found Twitter to be nice for reading status updates and witty epigrams, but bad for having substantive discussions. When I see a "Twittery" post on Friendfeed or vice versa, I don't know what to do with it. - Doug Beeferman
Chris, another thing to consider is that you have 150 times as many followers on Twitter as you have subscribers on FriendFeed. So, after normalizing for that, I believe FriendFeed is winning :-D - Doug Beeferman
Mona Nomura
Why are the most successful people genuinely nice and the semi-relevant people the biggest a-holes? #NameDroppersSUCK #ElitistsAreLame
watching for comments - Mac Sharp
Its easy to be nice when you are looking down on the little people ;) - Moved to Facebook
maybe the semi-relevant people become successful and then they stop being a-holes. - Taehoon Kim
A-holes rarely succeed - unless they somehow come into funds, usually a fluke. Like the dot commers. New money bubble people are elitist a-holes, usually for no reason. Old money folks are NICE. They have nothing to prove :) - Mona Nomura from iPhone
I guess you've never met Steve Jobs or Larry Ellison? - Alex Scoble
Larry Ellison I have. He's nice and EXTREMELY charismatic. Jobs, no. But I think they fall under 'new money' - Mona Nomura from iPhone
Competence breeds self awareness and confidence, trying to project competence produces the need for e-penis games, selfishness and constant paranoia. If you are good at what you do and you know it you don't need to compare dick sizes. - matthew john ernisse
I'm not sure if I have an opinion on your original statement, but as the to new money vs old money, my experiences have led me to disagree with that! - Rachel Lea Fox
There are exceptions to every rule ;) - Mona Nomura from IM
I don't really know any rich people, but I respect people with "new money" more than people with "old money" (if it means inherited), since the former have worked hard for it (considering it is honest and not some funding etc). - Jemm
Experience dependent, I think. I've met THE crappiest new money people, especially in the Valley. But this Tweet was initiated by a rude jerk, who is a bully. Kept it general since thinking about it, it applied to a lot of people. (not just dotcommers but in music, too.) - Mona Nomura from iPhone
The folks w/ a real sense of themselves tend to be more generous w/ their resources and ideas. The insecure ones seek always to position themselves higher or w/ more perceived power/authority. Yawn. Nice (confident) people FTW! - Ayşe E.
I've had the same experiences. Genuinely wealthy people tend to be much more pleasant than self-conscious, wanna-be social climbers. - Christopher A Carr
Ehn. I asked Scoble, and he said you were just having a bad day. :-) - Ladybug Heather
Seen also in monkeys. Alpha male is nice. Next-to-alpha males are rough. - Mitchell Tsai
Dion Hinchcliffe
14 Reasons Why Enterprise 2.0 Projects Fail versus 4 Rules of Thumb - chieftech's blog - http://chieftech.com.au/14-reas...
A useful counterpoint by @chieftech with 4 rules of thumb for Enterprise 2.0 in response to my 14 causes of failure: http://bit.ly/1aJQvV [from http://twitter.com/dhinchc...] - Dion Hinchcliffe
Rashmi Sinha
Plotting to take over the world over cups of cappuccino
Mike Nayyar
What is #gnomedex and why is it raping my eyes?
Pirillo liked this Tweet. - Robert Scoble
It's to be expected. - Andru Edwards
This got a lot of laughter and applause on the big screen, Mike. You're FINALLY famous! FINALLY! - Akiva Moskovitz
Diana L. Bartolotta
Dreamforce 09: Agenda - salesforce.com - http://www.salesforce.com/dreamfo...
This is on my list. San Francisco! Ross Fubini (Cubetree) already confirmed that he's presenting. What more reason do you need? - Diana L. Bartolotta
Bwana ☠
Feedly is changing the way I read news on the Web. - http://www.feedly.com
what do you like better about feedly then friendfeed or others? just curious. I'm trying to cut back, not add more tools, great s they might be. i'm exploding! - washwords
Can I like this 3x. Thanks for a GREAT recommendation, Bwana. My new fave Firefox extension. - Leo Laporte
Wow, even the screensaver function is cool...I might be leaning to feedly and away from greader... - Anthony Farrior
Revisited based on a few 'endorsements' here on FF. Wow. Easy, fast, just cool. - Charlie Anzman
I definitely need to spend more time with it, because on first impression, it's just too much information in one place. - cecily
What are the implications of "no thanks"? Same as "Mark as read"? - Andrew Smith
@cecily if you get a chance, go to the feedly dashboard (through dashboard link at the top right of the screen) and click on the star next to the sources you like the most and see if the what's new page looks any better. The other option is to click on the "cover" icon on the top left on the nav bar and see if that view is more diggestable. If you have specific ideas on how to make the interface more appealing let us know! - Edwin Khodabakchian
@andrew no thanks = mark the article as read + let the feedly recommendation engine know that you did not like this recommendation. This metadata is then used with other criteria to unfluence future recommendations. - Edwin Khodabakchian
@Edwin, thanks, good to know. - Andrew Smith
@Bwana Where is Feedly video, I love Bwana TV more than Scobleizer TV : )) - Erhan Erdogan
Edwin, one main suggestion - use plain language. Why call it "no thanks" when "mark item as read" is more intuitive (and doesn't require guessing)? - cecily
Hmm... have speed dial already loaded upon feedly install and cannot find feedly anywhere - Michael W. May from twhirl
Mati likes it! :):) - Mathew A. Koeneker
I'm in love! - Angel Smith
I installed and uninstalled all in 1 minute. - Aaron Myers
Erhan, thanks :) I need to learn how to utilize it properly before I screencast it...it's coming soon though, I love this thing - Bwana ☠
I tried it but wasn't that impressed with it. - BCK
Looks promising, but I'm always suspicious of extensions that don't come from Mozilla addons site... - João Almeida
What do you guys say to the folks who say Feedly crapped all over their Google Reader (adding feeds to it)? - David Risley
It's in this thread David: http://friendfeed.com/e... We asked for a bigger warning since the one there is easily missed, the Feedly guys chime in as to why they did it that way. It doesn't "crap" all over your feed, it does create new folders, but they are easily removed. They are working on an undo procedure as well. - Bwana ☠
@Bwana waiting impatiently : ) - Erhan Erdogan
Oh my lord. I just checked my Google Reader, it's has 2348279384723 new feeds. Thanks Freedly. - Aaron Myers
want to see converstaion integrated to feedly. then it really rocks. someone out there should get ff and disqus into feedly in an api way. - kosmar
I was sort of suprised that some were vehement about the "crap". I woke up and still am enthralled. - Mathew A. Koeneker
I love it!!! The only feature I'd add is the ability to customize how my emailed items look... - Kenneth LeFebvre
@David Risley fixed. feedly has now a better msg and automated-undo http://edwink.devhd.com/2008... - Edwin Khodabakchian
I'm really liking Feedly as well. We'll see how it goes - Shey, Jamaican of FF
iGoogle has been my home page for well over a year and what I have found is that via widgets its generally there for me to either click on gmail or to go into google reader - the other widgets are generally worth an odd glance but thats about it - I've put feedly as my home page and will see how this works out - but first impressions is a clean easy to use interface even if you have a few hundred feeds to juggle.. - Jican
Feedly is awesome: I had a few hiccups after installation, but I re-installed, and it has been a real help in 2 ways: 1) motivated me to clean up my feeds and sort them into a major category 2)motivates me daily to actually skim through and read the content that is closest to my current interests. well done! - Terri MacMillan
LOVE Feedly. - Fleagle
I want it for chrome. Any chance? - میر «عرفان» موسوی
Not dissing Feedly, but didn't experience anything that made me want to give up Google Reader when I tried Feedly a few months ago. Anyone care to explain why I should try again? - Chris Stevenson
I don't work for them, so I don't see a reason to convince you. Some people like it, some don't. - Fleagle
Hi Chris: feedly tries to provide a magazine like summary of your google reader. Some users only care about productivity and find the magazine like interface a step backward. Some users like it and use it in concert with their google reader. Some people prefer using the magazine like interface only. - Edwin Khodabakchian
Rob Diana
The Google Reader to FriendFeed integration is crazy fast. My shares get to FriendFeed before I switch tabs.
You are so right. I just shared an item and it arrived in FriendFeed really quickly! Pubsubhubbub? - Paul Jacobson
It is due to PubSubHubbub integration ... ah, Mark, you beat me to the punch! - Paul Jacobson
I thought that was cool, until FriendFeed started pulling in the shares before I clicked on them. It knew _in advance_ what I would have selected. - Louis Gray
We have reached the future. - Evan Travers
Louis, that's because FriendFeed *is* Louis Gray - Jesse Stay
Do I need to update my Google Reader URL in FriendFeed to activate the new change or does it automatically work for everyone who is already importing them? - Skyler Call
@Skyler Call: It should automatically work. - 321
321: Yes, it did. Thank you. - Skyler Call
i want to do this with a specific folder in my reader. by making the folder public, i'm hoping to automatically push those items as shared to FF when there is something new. do you know if this is possible? - Jim Halligan @jim from fftogo
i remember before this it could take 30 min or more for a story to post to FF now its like lightening! - (jeff)isageek
The question is, how fast do you switch tabs? ;) - Jemm
Jim, you can have FriendFeed pull in the feed for any tag in google reader. - Rob Diana
Jemm, honestly it must have been 2 seconds. I clicked my last share (or shift-s actually) and then I clicked the friendfeed tab and it was already there. - Rob Diana
Wow. I shared your post (and Louis Gray's post) in Google Reader, and they hit FriendFeed nearly instantaneously. Now if only Blogger supported the protocol... - John E. Bredehoft from fftogo
I tried it just then ... whoa! - Jay
10 hours later... had to manually refresh my Reader shares :( - Dominic Jones
Still not working Dominic? I can help debug maybe? If you tell me when you post. - Brett Slatkin
Brett, I have to commend you and the reader team for their customer service as well. This is one of the few times I have seen googlers openly reacting to issues and not just fixing things. - Rob Diana
Thanks! =) - Brett Slatkin
David Schmidt
Could staff members have a special icon or some other special identifier? Especially in groups like FriendFeed Feedback that would be very supportive.
It's all of us at http://friendfeed.com/about..., and http://friendfeed.com/bdarnell who hasn't written his bio yet :) - Tudor Bosman
I know Tudor. But sometimes one mix up names. A slightly different colored bubble in front of staff comments would be neat. Flickr also has a little "staff" tag below staff comments, why not FF? - David Schmidt
I think that's a great idea - outofmyarse
tiffany
Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco: #14 The Lop-Sided Gender Ratio - http://whytherearenogirls.blogspot.com/2009...
"A study published in in 2007 by two English psychologists (who are better known for a different study that showed the wealthier a man is, the more frequently his partner has orgasms may shed some light. The study looked at marriage patterns in the United States and an interesting trend appeared: unbalanced gender ratios did not seem to problematize proportionally. The research showed that as the sex ratio augmented in favor of women, at first, as you would expect, the women simply turned fussy and went for richer and more powerful men. But at a certain point a curious thing happened: the amount of socioeconomic status a guy needed to get girl increased way more than the math would predict. Specifically when the ratio was tilted in favor of women by 10%, low status men became not 10% less likely to get a girl but 200-300% less likely and high status men 30% less likely." - tiffany from Bookmarklet
Why There Are No Girls has cracked me up. - tiffany
I better make sure my money is right. - Jason Toney
"Imagine a bar with 100 girls and 100 guys. The bouncer admits 10 more guys and competitively speaking it's as if, for the low status guys, 130 guys walked into the room (and for the high status guys, 30 guys). The bar might as well close for the night. That bar, friends, is San Francisco." - anna sauce
Yeah the funny thing about SF- and the women's opinion of the datability of men here- they discount nerds. Completely. If we jokingly respond (when a woman complains about - no men in SF-) that they go down to San Jose, it's like, not funny. - anna sauce
Hmm. Somehow I've managed to be mostly at loose ends (single) during my 20 years in the Bay Area. When I hear guys complain about how there are no women and how women have all the power, blah blah blah, it pisses me off. They must only be talking about the women they consider to be the pinnacle in looks. Because we average women who live in the Bay Area don't find we're inundated with suitors. - Spidra Webster
...something about: no romance without finance. - .LAG liked that
yes, LAG, romance without finance is a nuisance. also see: "ain't nothin' going on but the rent. got to have a J-O-B if you want to be with me" http://www.youtube.com/watch... - tiffany
I was once really reamed for saying "at least they have to have a job," that it was insensitive, that what if the guy was between jobs, etc. I thought that was a huge concession for me, as I wasn't fortune hunting, just wanted to make sure they had a basic income. LOL. - anna sauce
I don't require the guy to have a job. I require him to have some sort of direction/ambition. People can be without jobs but looking. Hell, if he sells paintings and thus earns enough to scrape by, that's okay with me. I go dutch on dates anyway. - Spidra Webster
I think there's a tendency for men to equate basic logical relationship requirements (similar background, economic status, family upbringing, etc.) as some kind of an attack. The lady is not gold-digging if she already got a better job than you, homeboy. And, the vice-versa is true, too, right? Whether it be looks or economic class, how many ugly ass rich dudes have models on their arms? - Jason Toney
oooh jason, can you give that speech to the men of atlanta? in fact, i might print this out and stick them under windshields in the velvet room parking lot like it was a club flyer... lol. and no, he doesn't need to have a "job," but he needs to have a consistent source of legal income. usually that means a job. sometimes a business. - tiffany
So one boyfriend learned a few months into the relationship that I earned about 10K more than he did. Wow. Huge problem with it. On the other hand, some guys were like "we can never move into her house, that would just be wrong." like, if she lives somewhere nicer, they also feel somehow immasculated. Weird. - anna sauce
yeah. i think the average dude needs to feel superior to his woman somehow. he needs to earn more, have the better car, be smarter, know more about a particular subject, etc. he needs to feel like he's running *something.* - tiffany
It's sad- it's kinda insecure, it's like, women like you for more than just the material things you have to offer. - anna sauce
anna, but does the dude like himself enough? - Jason Toney
Oh whoa, I somehow didn't clue in at first - we had a holiday yesterday, so functionally this is Monday for me - that this is a blog devoted to "why there are no girls in SF" and this was post #14. Working my way back through the archives now... - Andrew C
LMAO at #12 and #11. And #10. - Andrew C
#9: "SF women ARE unattractive, but SF men, also being Stanford and Cal alumni, are as ill-formed and featured as the women. Thus, the pairing of the equally unattractive genders should sort itself out neatly. (At least by the numbers and for that generation. God knows how unsightly the procreative output of such pairings would be. The poor transients of the Tenderloin would feel like Will Smith in I Am Legend)." - Andrew C
jason- very true - anna sauce
*is glad he's not "the average dude"* - Joe Silence is not Santa
my wife has made more per year than me since 2006. she has no problem with this and therefore neither do i. our finances have been effectively merged since the mid-90s so it hardly matters in any practical sense. - Joe Silence is not Santa
Finally got to #1, "Day Culture". =) - Andrew C
My experience is that far and away the most fascinating men I've met in SF are unilaterally under-employed. No, a "job" isn't a requirement and being basically shiftless isn't okay with me either. And for the record, I have 3 jobs and am very attractive. :) - felicious
Fel, why isn't a job (or at least the remnants of a once promising career considering our economy) a requirement? - Jason Toney
A more contextual way of putting it is however much "socioeconomic status" a man has is irrelevant to me. Of course my man has to have an income, and what's interesting is I've been gravitating toward men who seemingly have *no* designs on a steady viable income. What's even more interesting is how that is a reflection of me since opting out of the corporate world. I work hard at menial... more... - felicious
Of course one would think that there are "no girls in San Francisco"...if one is spending the bulk of one's time whining about the dearth of available women *and* spending the rest of one's time recording one's whining in a blog. A *blog*. No wonder. - Chester
Chester, I think the guy is writing comedic pieces that happen to have a whiny/kvetching tone. - Andrew C
Actually...my interpretation is that they're whiny/kvetching pieces in an ostensibly comedic tone. - Chester
fascinating and hilarious article - Chieze Okoye
Philipp Lenssen
Friendfeed 1995
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That is great :) - Bret Taylor
Love the URL too :). Except back then it would most definitely have been cwru.edu :) - Benjamin Golub
Philipp was actually one of our first beta testers... - Kevin Fox
b65152.student.cwru.edu if it were my computer. - Paul Buchheit
Hillarious! - Robert Scoble from iPhone
We nixed Gopher access at the last minute because we found our gopher servers couldn't handle the load. - Kevin Fox
Ha! I saved a copy of the Trojan Room Coffee Cam page, complete with captured picture (which I then had to view offline, as I could not configure the Lynx to display in parallel ;-)) - ianf ⌘
Thanks to non-caching of css files, archive.org's first record of FriendFeed isn't all that different: http://web.archive.org/web... - Kevin Fox
gotta check the wayback machine now.. :)- - Peter Dawson
Someone needs to turn this into a Theme - Mistletoe Glen
NEEDS MOAR ANIMATED GIFS - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I LOVE the Metacrawler part. Nice job. - Admiral Anika
Damn I forgot how much screen real estate browser toolbars used to eat up, especially with those huge buttons. - Ray Cromwell
I was using friendfeed when I was 10! ;) - Frankie Warren
I remember when they first implemented real-time feeds; boy, it sure wreaked havoc with my 1200 baud modem. - Mistletoe Glen
This should be a Theme for FF. - Matt Ruiz
Those were the days. I especially like the "powered by Metacrawler" link in the corner! - Chuck Adams
Simply Awesome! - Nicholas James
A more accurate URL would have been k2.cwru.edu/~ptb/index.html - Gabe
Needs moar BLINK tag. - Rick Cogley
Great - Charlie Anzman
My first website looked like this. But with less graphics :) - WorldofHiglet
the '1994' internet of Robert ;-) - Jeroen De Miranda
If we knew then, what we know now! - Donna Payne
Speaking of which, I always wondered at the default gray background choice of the first Netscape browser(s). It looked too sophisticated to have been accidental. In hindsight, however, someone there must've misunderstood basic usability, e.g. optimal contrast ratios? [And then a year later someone had that unbright idea of turning homepages black for a day's web protest against some... more... - ianf ⌘
ianf: The gray background was the default in Mosaic, so Netscape was just keeping the status quo. The black background protest was against the Communications Decency Act, which would have made lots of innocent speech illegal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Gabe
Heheh, so true. - Amir
Obviously fake. :) The menu bar entries are anti-aliased. - Andy Bakun
Ray Cromwell, with the pixels being so much bigger back then, I suspect that the continued need for button bars was the impetus behind increasing screen resolutions. - Andy Bakun
hahaha brilliant - Nicholas Kreidberg
If this was supposed to be March 5, 1995, that was before Sun announced Java, so the coffee pot needing Java joke wouldn't have made sense yet. - Gabe
Aren't you missing the point Gabe? Friendfeed did not exist in 1995 to begin with. - lelapin
Damn, just by me "viewing" the image that mentioned Java, I got a "Java Update Available" window. I'm not kidding, it popped up the second the image loaded... I hate Java. This is a great parody though, good work. - Joel Strellner
David Schach
@Kingsley2 Asking how to engage Force.com devs using social media... by using social media? Preaching to the choir? :) [great idea, kj]
Allen Stern
ever notice that none of the blogs on the twitter default list ever mention it when boasting about their sub numbers?
Chris Messina
And then I wrote an article for Microsoft: "View Source has a Posse." http://www.visitmix.com/Error... #pigsflew #hellfrozeover
Its nice and to the point, View source has indeed been massively helpful and gud differentiators against Flash/Air and Silverlight. But where did #hellfrozeover? its only 5 comments on blog post, and abt 6 on FF/twitter in abt 2 hrs !? its all peace. Thanks for nice article :) - Ashish Tiwari
@Ashish: I have a tendency for the melodramatic. ;) - Chris Messina
BEX
BEX
Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith - USATODAY.com - http://www.usatoday.com/news...
Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith - USATODAY.com
that just seems silly - especially if you don't believe anyway - BEX from Bookmarklet
that is disgusting. - Jason Wyttenbach
Exactly, and it's kind of insulting the people who do believe in it. What's funny is that Atheists are always saying that they get insulted when overly religious people put religion all in their face. Nice way to return the favor (rolling my eyes) - Shevonne
Do i get to be dunked into a vat of beer cause if then, I might be willing. - Santa CW™
Sort of stupid. So they are performing a superstitious ritual because they don't believe in superstitious rituals? - Kamath (नमः)
How wonderfully idiotic and well, unsurprising in some circles. - Admiral Anika
I know many atheists. I'm an atheist. But I largely keep that to myself. You can believe whatever you want to believe as long as you don't force me to believe it too. I don't know anyone who'd want to go through this pointless de-baptism ceremony. But I disagree with you, Shevonne, that this is in your face. They aren't trying to get you to participate. And it seems like it has value to... more... - Stephen Mack
I meant that they get offended if religious people throw religion in their face, so why do something just as insulting? - Shevonne
Just a fun fact: Christianity categorizes baptism as an indelible sacrament. Nothing can remove it, not even death So no one would think this ritual has any effect whatsoever. Seems kind of counter-intuitive for people who mock empty ritual to go through with it. - Alex Scrivener
Atheists can be just as petty and short-sighted as anyone else. But if this is done privately and has value to the participant, so what? Stupid things people do in private ceremonies shouldn't be considered insulting to people who aren't there, right? - Stephen Mack
Insults are insults even when they're behind the target's back, right? - Andrew C
It's not an insult if it's not about anyone else. - Stephen Mack
Kinda pointless. And it's a bit of a slap in the face to religious people. - Jason Huebel
Serious question: If I'm a vegetarian, and you're a meat-eater, do any of you consider that an insult too? - Stephen Mack
Stay classy. - Derrick
@Stephen, that's not really the same thing, though. In this case, atheists are adopting a practice from Christianity and negating its meaning. It's meant to be provocative. At least, in the context of making the practice public in this article. That said, it doesn't really bother me. If an atheist wants to renounce their former faith by de-baptism, let them. - Jason Huebel
I was a Methodist until the age of 16 but managed to inadvertently avoid a baptism. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Jason, I actually agree with you, word for word. - Stephen Mack
Why go through a renouncement framed in religious terms if you're trying to deny religion? It's like saying you want to quit smoking and to do so you start smoking only candy cigarettes. - Kevin Fox
As far as I know, baptism was begun by the Jews. If this insults anyone it ought to be them. Still, only if it's being done as mockery should anyone feel insulted. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I guess the reason they do it is they see the whole baptism ceremony as a pointless ritual that is symbolic of indoctrination into a belief system. This would be a way of 'washing away' that indoctrination. I'm not offended in the least. They are not insulting the act of baptism because for them, baptism doesn't mean the same thing. - Johnny Worthington
I think one aspect of this that people are forgetting is that typically, atheists have not formed communities around the very notion of their non-theistic feelings. Ceremonies like this are not rituals in a superstitious sense, but rather a form of symbolism in the framework of a supportive group. just because someone is an atheist it doesn't mean that they don't see meaning in anything. - G. Sigh from iPhone
That's really just sad. - EricaJoy
I think the crux of the matter is this: You're going to be offended only if you allow yourself to be offended. Is there anything you can do to stop the practice? Are atheists /really/ hurting anyone by de-baptizing themselves (putting aside religious beliefs)? So why get bent out of shape over it? If they're wrong, then they'll have to answer for their actions later. If they aren't, then it's a moot point anyway. You're just causing yourself undue grief by worrying yourself over it. - Jason Huebel
Jason agreed. But it's annoying. I have no cause to be offended personally as I am not even Christian - just annoys me and offends my logic engine. It's just idiotic and shows lack of respect. - Kamath (नमः)
I guess by that definition, it is just as disrespectful when people convert from one religion to another, no? Does it make it that different if they are renouncing one religion in the name of no religion? (Or a non-theistic one?) - G. Sigh
George: You could argue that just by _being_ one religion, you are disrespecting all other religions. You don't even need to make a switch. - Brian Johns
It's just ironic that people who think religious ceremonies are meaningless spectacle go ahead and perform a ceremony that appears from the outside to also be meaningless spectacle. And if you're going to argue that, no, there is meaning and utility in it after all, then why can't religious ceremonies be just as meaningful and useful? - Victor Ganata
"You're going to be offended only if you allow yourself to be offended. " Isn't that true of any insult, though? - Andrew C
Obviously, this is blatant mockery. They wouldn't be doing these baptisms in the first place if it wasn't a religious ceremony to begin with. - Andru Edwards
I guess I don't see this as mockery, but an honest attempt to shed something they don't want to be attached to. Some people need ceremony for those things, even if they don't feel that an immeasurable force blesses that ceremony. If it makes them feel better, then I'm all for it. What they believe, or don't, doesn't impact my own faith at all. - Jennifer Dittrich
@Brian: Sure, you're just highlighting the inherent rifts between people of various faiths (or lack thereof). But people are "upset" about this specific "deconversion" because it is a visible act that isn't compatible with their belief system. People don't know what religion you are without an indicating action or obvious visual cue (dress). Anyway, I think that atheists, as a group,... more... - G. Sigh
Hmm. I didn't really believe this to be mockery, until I got to the part where the 'priest' drys the participant with a hair dryer marked "Reason." Yeah, that's mockery. That said, even atheists sometimes require ritual to leave a part of their lives behind. Rituals have value beyond the supernatural. Just, dare I say it, not this one. - The Letter M
George, you're right that an atheist has no chance of being elected, but I don't think atheists are particularly persecuted. - Stephen Mack
Atheists also cannot use many adoption agencies, or adopt from many counties. Being an atheist gets you treated differently than you can understand if you're not. Finding work can also be hard, especially if you live in a conservative state. - Andrizzle Gizzle
Wow. Guess I haven't seen it all yet... - Joel Robert Perez
Andrea, I don't mean to say atheists face zero persecution. But compared to what, say, Jews or Hindus or Christians or practitioners of Islam have faced? - Stephen Mack
Stephen, in some circles atheists garner very little respect, and "coming out" as an atheist is often not a prudent action, particularly with regard to family life. For example, I come from a pretty traditional culture where everyone is expected to be Catholic. One challenge is that I am not going to be married in a church, nor will I be baptizing my children. (If my children want to... more... - G. Sigh
I'm chiming in to say my thoughts echo those of Kamath (नमः) "Sort of stupid. So they are performing a superstitious ritual because they don't believe in superstitious rituals?" And "I have no cause to be offended personally as I am not even Christian - just annoys me and offends my logic engine. It's just idiotic and shows lack of respect." - BEX
Also, I'll admit that as far as "persecution" is concerned, historically, you're right, Stephen, in that other religious groups have experienced much more significant negativity, especially when pitted against each other. The plight of modern atheists (again, who largely keep to themselves) is generally not as serious, but I expect that if as a group they were to "come out" in droves (in this country), there would be a very significant movement against them. - G. Sigh
Whether it's disrespectful or silly, I think depends largely on the intent. If the participants are seeking psychological benefit, it doesn't seem out of place to me. If their intent is to go "nyah nyah" at their former religion, it does seems strange and counterproductive. - Alix Whitmire
Maybe I'm naive, but I do see the atheist population increasing (see http://www.usatoday.com/news... for example), and I don't see a tremendous backlash (yet?). But as Andrea detailed, our society is far from perfect. I stand by my previous statement that many religions face much more serious persecution than atheists. On the other hand, if... more... - Stephen Mack
If atheists perform rituals and ceremonies for psychological benefit, why do they mock religious people for doing the same thing? The more I hear from hard-core atheists, the more it sounds just like another religion. - Victor Ganata
They mock because those rituals are in the name of something they consider absurd (to be frank). That said, most atheists do NOT do anything like this. What's being described in the article is essentially a form of "initiation" into a club, like any other. However, a religion it is not: they do not have a common set of precepts by which they are leading their [non-]spiritual lives. - G. Sigh
Victor, exactly NONE of the atheists posting in this thread (whether hardcore or not) have expressed much if any support for this anti-baptism. And as an atheist, I do my best to never mock any other religious person. No other atheist speaks for me. - Stephen Mack
I'm a pluralist: I want to build bridges[between people of different faiths], not burn them. I deem this de-baptism as something that works against that, as it reinforces a division. - G. Sigh
I'm not trying to pick a fight with anyone here, and maybe I'm just misinterpreting things. But it seems that a lot of atheists make the assertion that they're more rational than people who believe in things that can't be proven to exist. But that assertion itself is an article of faith. To me, the staunch, unbreakable non-belief in something that can't be proven to exist isn't really any more rational. And isn't that the thing that unites every atheist? You have to believe that there is no God, don't you? - Victor Ganata
I think this is retarded. If you don't believe in G-d and religion, but some stupid anti-baptism ritual makes you feel better about yourself, you obviously need to think a little harder about what you believe. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Victor, there's a wide range of atheists. Atheist literally just means "without God." You're describing the so-called "strong atheist" who takes an active belief that there is not a god. Many atheists (including me) are so-called "weak atheists" who simply do not have faith that there is a god. (This is probably a gross oversimplification.) Perhaps I'm more of an agnostic, but to me... more... - Stephen Mack
You don't have to believe there is no God. You just don't believe there is a God. (Sort of like you can't not be on boat.) - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Heh, I wonder how many people here will stop following me or commenting on my stuff now that they know I'm an atheist. - Stephen Mack
@Stephen, I won't. As long as you don't belittle by beliefs, then we're cool. - Jason Huebel
+1 Lindsey. This all just strikes me as odd. - Jason Huebel
Lindsey, I think it's just admitting that religion has power. - Alix Whitmire
No one can deny that religion has enormous power. - Stephen Mack
Atheism isn't a faith, but it certainly is a religion, flush with priests, sins, their own book, their own guilt, and their own devil. - Matthew DeVries
Agreed Matthew! - Carlton Hackett
I just think it's funny that even atheists have their fundamentalists and their moderates. But I'm not trying to mock anyone's belief or disbelief. As someone who has been struggling with my spiritual beliefs for a while, I'm just always wary about anyone who is blithely certain about things that can't be proven or disproven. I'm not talking about anyone commenting on this thread, but there are definitely people on both sides of the aisle whose fundamentalism is disturbing. - Victor Ganata
they should do it in reverse. Go into the pool soaking wet and come out dry. - Joshua Schnell
Matthew, tell me more. Who are the priests of atheism? What's the book? Who's the devil? - Stephen Mack
Man needs religion. Even in non-religion, religion evolves. - Matthew DeVries
What if there was a jewish man that wanted to be un-circumcised? - Will Higgins™
Stephen, I'm full of shit and there's no basis at all in anything I just said. LOL - Matthew DeVries
Will, they have.....apparatuses for that. - Matthew DeVries
Joshua - the actual de-baptising ceremony is performed with a hair dryer, not a pool. - Andrew C
Will H., uncircumcision has a long history: http://www.cirp.org/library... - Stephen Mack
This is why I don't associate myself with atheism anymore than any religious group. A lot of what goes on under the banner of Atheism sounds an awful lot like religious nuttery. - Geoff Schultz
If this is insulting to religious people, isn't baptism insulting to the non-religious. Actually, to everyone who isn't Christian? What's the harm if they do it for themselves, in private, with no expectation to affect anyone else? I'm guessing you haven't seen http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173... - Heather
It's not the same, Heather. Religions baptisms don't take a ritual from the atheists and undo it. I see this as the equivalent of displaying a cross upside-down. I really don't understand this need to have a ritual, especially if you don't have a religion telling you how to conduct your life. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
But of course they are undoing a ritual - that's the point! They're not making fun of anyone's religion, they are symbolically letting go of their old beliefs (or perhaps the religion that was never their own by choice, but settled on them by their families.) - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
For not believing, there is certainly a lot of time and energy involved. Non-practicing believers have more free time. ;) - R1CC1
I was baptized when I was a baby, I had no choice in it. In the churches eyes, it's something that never goes away. So what does that mean for me, as an atheist? Baptism is a symbol, de-baptising is another, opposite, symbol. It's not taking away from anyone other then the person it's being done to. - Heather
For everyone saying that they are not doing this to insult religion. Read the article. "In a type of mock ceremony that's now been performed in at least four states, a robed "priest" used a hairdryer marked "reason" in an apparent bid to blow away the waters of baptism once and for all. Several dozen participants then fed on a "de-sacrament" (crackers with peanut butter) and received... more... - Shevonne
I'm not religious, and I question many things. However, I am someone who does believe in treating others with respect, even if you don't believe in what they believe in. Just cause they do something to you, doesn't mean you have to lower to their standards, or even worse - Shevonne
What's the point of 'de-baptism' if you never believed in it anyway? - Tomy Thomson
Yeah. I've head of this kind of thing before. It's dumb. Really. Atheist here (in case someone missed the hundred other times I mentioned it). - Kamilah Gill
is it better the second time? - Andy Sternberg
That sounds like fun! *ducks and hides* Actually, don't most popular comedians mock things? Isn't SNL all about mocking celebrities, politics and society? I'm pretty sure The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and other such shows do the same thing. Maybe it is over the top, but how is it actually hurting anyone? Hurt feeling don't count in my book, because it's not fair to count only the hurt feelings of Christians and never the hurt feelings of atheists. - Heather
Not all atheists swing this way. Definitely. We just have our lunatic fringe. - Kamilah Gill
At least circumcision has health benefits. - Geoff Schultz
I think this is pretty funny. Sounds more like a party than a ritual. It's not like they're going door-to-door saying that you'll burn for eternity for not believing what they believe. - Rob Haas
Heh, most health insurances consider the health benefits of circumcision minimal, and won't actually cover it. They consider it a cosmetic procedure. - Victor Ganata
Silly but harmless, I'd say, much like the "Blasphemy Challenge" or "selling your soul" on eBay. As for respecting the beliefs of others, I don't. I may respect people, but beliefs and opinions are never something I'll simply respect. If you act respectably, then I won't tease you about your belief in alien abductions, 9/11 conspiracy stuff, unicorns, faeries, Xenu, "God" or whatever.... more... - James (!?)
in baptism you go down in the water and then come back up, symbolizing (in the Christian faith), death with (and living with or in) Christ. Interestingly, Christians were not the only ones to practice baptism. Other religions and ritualistic organizations have done it. There is, realistically, no way to reverse this, except perhaps by going down in the water and NOT coming back up. The... more... - Gary Smith
RTA. Atheist "de-baptism" uses a hair-dryer and that pic is a stock photo of a baptism. - Rob Haas
Robert: Ah. So it's "what a baptism might look like"? :-) - Gary Smith
Dave- I would buy it if I thought you had one. ;) - Heather
I do hate to say this: If it means that much to them, Ss practically a Belief, Taking themselves Waaay two seriously, Their real meaning should just happy to be themselves and not go bugging anyone about it. Dudes Chill don't be so formal with ideas - relax let them flow and help you build up your Own Character. Dam might Ss well joing a Church Dudes - ThatDBD
so how did we get started on penises? LOL - BEX
religion and penises go hand in hand, wait... - sean percival
LMAO I hadn't even thought that it could be taken that way. Which one of us gets blamed for the dirty mind? And ThatDBD, why can't we hang out with other atheists and do silly things like religious people do? I think being atheist shouldn't preclude me from socializing and having fun. - Heather
To me, this seems a little too mean-spirited to be "fun". I'm all for Flying Spaghetti Monsters and so on, but this is a direct hit against a particular faith, and that goes a bit far for me. Doesn't help endear us to anyone (for those of us who care to be embraced by the general public at least a *little* bit). - Kamilah Gill
Well, while I don't think too much of this ceremony, I don't fault them for a "direct hit against a particular faith", because it *was* their faith, and it remains meaningful for them to move away from it. Ultimately they're entitled to do what they want. If religious people are confident in their own faith (and believe in freedom of religion), they shouldn't care one way or another about a ceremony like this. - G. Sigh
((((Kamilah)))) embracing Kamilah - BEX
My summary (of this important discussion; at least to me) ~ A baptist has a positive disposition toward baptism. An a-baptist has a negative disposition toward it and believes the subverting of baptism is a net good. Finally, an agno-baptist holds a neutral position toward the both, but may take a negative stance on *public* displays of cooped rituals with a passive aggressive tone. - Micah Wittman
There are 2 extremes of atheists in this world: 1. People who just simply don't believe in any god and that is it. Their disbelief is the same as anyone else's disbelief in anything, such as the Tooth Fairy, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, the abominable snowman, space aliens & ufo's. Just like you don't find a need to bring up the subject repeatedly and preach your disbelief in any of... more... - April Russo (app103)
I don't see why anybody's getting their panties in a bunch over this. I think it's a reasonable idea. People don't need gods to ceremonially mark occasions, but symbolism has an impact on the way that people think and feel. The symbolism of the baptism ceremony, while obviously meaningless when taken at face value by an atheist, has social and personal significance. A de-baptism is one... more... - Lucas Parker
Agreed with Lucas. Being atheist doesn't mean being not believing in symbolic acts. After all, birthday cakes and raising a flag are symbolic. Getting yourself de-baptized at a private party which no one would ever know about except for a USA Today article is not necessarily meant to be mean-spirited or offensive, either. - Rob Haas
April, there may be some overlap between your two. You're making some broad generalizatons. I put myself in the first camp, but I approve of some bus-side slogans and some amount of protest when religiosity gets out of hand. I don't care much for snarky little gestures like the one described here. If some people are sincere about their needs to be "de-baptized", then, alright, fine, but... more... - Kamilah Gill
It's also like writing an angry letter you never send or talking when no one can hear you, or posting something "private" or punching a pillow. Should I go on? Yeah it doesn't mean anything, but screaming into a giant hole still makes you feel better. Hell, typing here is meaningless but we are still doing it. By the way, sometimes I'm a 1 atheist, sometimes I'm a 2 atheist (why is a friendly atheist message a huge waste of money?) and sometimes I'm in between. You don't get to pigeon hole us, we wiggle. :) - Heather
You know, on a personal note, I just want to say that I don't feel a need to be "de-babtized", and as far as the circumcision is concerned--can't really miss what I can't re-member, as it were. BUT, that said, I do feel resentment on my childhood self's behalf. I was taught matters of "faith" as if they were true, and I was given a sense of guilt for being human and fallible, and I was... more... - James (!?)
Good explanation of your perspective, James. I think one of the things that makes religion a tough topic is how it tends to be passed down to children, who often not given a "choice" (at least until they are "on their own"). Part of the reason some atheists can appear to "passionate" about their non-belief may have to do with the fact that they made a conscious decision to explore their... more... - G. Sigh
Just one more way to mock God. Someday he'll get sick of it and kill us all. And I'm blaming them when it happens. N00bs. - Danny Minick
Would I do it? No. Do I think it's silly? Yes - just as much as any religious ritual is - but it's also probably fun to do and a good excuse to meet up and get drunk. Do I think it's deliberately insulting to religion? Not sure as it's impossible to know the reasoning behind each individual's decision to go through with the act. But I would say that if you're religious and you think... more... - Mark H
OMG - Thomas Power
Dudes Rituals are for Religions, disbelief calls for nothing Dudes get a grip. If you need this ritual you are already in That religion called Atheists. Formalizing things Suck these guys are going on my Ass Hole list this Follow Friday, Earned Dudes Earned - ThatDBD
Um, OK... - JA Castillo
Kevin Fox
Apple to Palm: Nuh-uh.
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Is Apple in anti-trust territory here? They've got the portable music market sewn up - keeping competitors out with technical means like this is getting close to going over the edge. - Matt Mastracci
Probably not, since it's still possible to sync your mp3s to your Pre. It just won't be as seamless. - Victor Ganata
I don't know about anti-trust, but I do know that I like Apple less because they are doing this. I have no particular attachment to either company, but in my opinion it's Apple's image, not Palm's, that comes out as the loser is this particular squabble. - Dylan Bennett
I own a Pre and I could care less since I use Pandora. But if I did care and I used iTunes, that would mean I would have to choose another music manager and probably start buying my mp3's through Amazon. Doesn't Apple want me to buy my mp3's through iTunes? What does it matter that I have the free software on a different device? - Ron Wening
Does the Pre integration include their DRM-protected files? Or was it just for syncing up MP3 files? - Matt Mastracci
I think Apple's fully within their rights to do this. I just like the doublespeak phrasing in the release notes. - Kevin Fox
n/m... Google answered my question with this error message from a user: “SONG” was not copied because the FairPlay version is not supported by the iPod “Palm Pre” - Matt Mastracci
Having been in somewhat of the same situation a few times in the past, while it looks bad to 3rd parties, I'm liable to think that the Pre functionality was hinged on a bug in the iTunes software that Apple wasn't aware of until the publicity of the Pre release. The fact that Apple didn't immediately squelch the bug before the release date leads me to believe this has less to do with... more... - Mark Trapp
I don't understand the threat to Apple if they allow this. If I use iTunes as my default player it is very possible that I'm also purchasing music/videos from the iTunes Store. Whether I have an iPod or not shouldn't Apple encourage the use of their software and store? - Vaughn
Vaughn - Apple sells hardware. iTunes exists for the iPod - not for other players. 'Other devices' are directly competing with Apple's. - Joel
Rather than think of it like some feature that gets turned on and off, think about what the Pre was doing: identifying itself as an iPod. Say something happens, Apple has to issue an update that's specific to that iPod. Oh, and by the way, because of the way the update's engineered, it overwrites core system files on the Pre (that wouldn't be there if it were an actual iPod). I see this more as Apple fixing their system to more accurately identify whether something is an iPod. - Mark Trapp
Mark - I think you nailed it. Regardless of the other issues, Palm was identifying as an iPod, which it isn't. That clarifies the issue for me. - Matt Mastracci
no brainer. for for the Pre to be identified as an iPod, it would have to be successful. - Steve Gillmor
Mark, that sounds like a good explanation. I hadn't heard it presented that way. Maybe it's from my belief in openness but wouldn't it still be more beneficial for Apple to add functionality for other players to sync with iTunes? How much does iTunes drive sales of iPods? - Vaughn
Vaughn: I don't know, but Apple has spent most of its history using the idea of a closed ecosystem/vertical integration as the basis for the higher quality you get with their products. For example, they use the fact that they developed the operating system, make the hardware, sell the products, and run all the support and training as one of the main points why Macs are better than PCs.... more... - Mark Trapp
You're right Mark. There is no reason for them to start being open now. - Vaughn
...and yet another reason for me to find a way to get rid of iTunes. I already either rip my own CDs or buy from Amazon. But I have both an iPhone (which my wife uses) and a G1 (which I use), so I must simultaneously use iTunes and *not* use iTunes, which blows. Apple's perfectly within their rights to do preclude non-Apple devices, but it absolutely sucks for me as a user. - Joel Webber
@Joel - oh yeah, the current situation is brutal. Not only can iTunes only load music on iPods, but you can't load music on an iPod without hacking the library format, so everyone else is forced to hack brittle iPhone support into their products. DoubleTwist looks promising, though they don't support iPhone OS 3.0 yet: http://www.doubletwist.com/dt... - Matt Mastracci
Tim O'Reilly
Fascinating report on psychologoical studies: 10 rules that govern groups: http://www.spring.org.uk/2009... via @gnat in http://radar.oreilly.com/2009...
Dennis Howlett
John Peavoy: the best salesperswon Salesforce never had - http://blogs.zdnet.com/Howlett...
Matt Mullenweg
I am Matt Thomas : VideoPress for WordPress.org - http://iammattthomas.com/2009...
"I love the music, what is it?" - Matt Mullenweg
Sounds to me like Tito Puente, but I'm sure there are lots in that space... - Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Kevin Fox
Penny Arcade is hiring! From rec: "Although not required, a level 80 Alliance character would be helpful." http://www.linkedin.com/jobs...
Also: "The ability to handle side and underspin using either shakehand or penhold grip is critical." - Stephen Mack
Darren Heydon
Move along Monday... Nothing to see here
lol - Anna Haro
:)) - Bindu Reddy
Charlie Wood
Last weekend my 4YO son took off his bathing suit, threw it in the pool, and announced, "I need a snack and a nap!" Future F500 CEO?
he seems to have all the makings. time to buy him some golf clubs? - Kingsley Joseph
Dave Winer
Formats are like trees, microbes and cockroaches (Scripting News). http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Jeff Jarvis
Frequent RT @nytimeskristof China has blocked the use of "June 4" in Internet postings. So people are referring to the crackdown on "May 35"
Jess Lee
The Worst And Saddest Of Yahoo! Answers - http://www.geekologie.com/2009...
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hilarious - Jess Lee from Bookmarklet
I cried with laughter at most of these. My fave is the son with the naked men magazines. His girlfriend *must* have brought them over! - LuluGirl896 from Viigo
I like the super serious multi paragraph answer about light sabers vs Superman. All the gay ones are pretty funny too. - Jess Lee
dude, some of these are hilarious. "I live in georgia, I heard russia has invaded but i don't see or hear any tanks. what's going on?" - Christopher Chung
There was one re: steam that I am slightly embarrassed to not understand at all... I guess if I don't have those parts, it's really not ever going to be a concern. - Bill Strathearn
Actually I don't understand the steam vagina one either. - Jess Lee
That just means it's chilly in the room where she's taking a pee. Guys see the same thing when they pee outside and it's chilly, right? Think of it like when you see your breath in the air. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Some of those just made me have a laughing fit at work. - joey
Fantastic find! - Brandon Mendelson
You should see what the ChaCha guides deal with. Yeah. Like that. Over and over and over and.... - Kris Roley
Derrick
This made me laugh so hard yesterday that I... - http://tylercoates.tumblr.com/post...
This made me laugh so hard yesterday that I...
"This made me laugh so hard yesterday that I referenced it in conversation today." - Derrick from Bookmarklet
LOL! - WorldofHiglet
I lol'ed so loud that people were looking into my office. - Derrick
is it really that bad? if so, i need to reconsider my plan to eventually steal a copy off the internet....damn, that's pretty bad... - Morgan Haley
Morgan, I liked it enough. But I think I'm gonna have to follow this lady on Twitter, cause she's up to her eyeballs in funny. - Derrick
is it worth 11.50? dammit! I wanted this movie to be at least good enough that I don't start laughing while watching it...dammit, dammit! That's it! Me and what's his face are so done professsionally....you know, the snapperhead that plays the lead....what's his name again? - Morgan Haley
I did a 6.50 matinee at the Vista in Silverlake. - Derrick
ok, 6.50 works, even with the laughing....maybe i'll have to check it out. when does the manitee discount expire...and yes, i am aware that i wrote manitee. if you knew me, you would understand.... - Morgan Haley
That comment is hilarious. Derrick, I followed you on Twitter for the same reason. You said something that made me laugh out loud and I marked it as a favorite. I had to go find it: http://twitter.com/geekand... It was the "little baby homo" description. LOL! - Trish R
Sux?:d - Amir
LOL! I paid too :( Up side for me - best nap I ever had! - Shane
Wow. Was it that bad? Lol. - Kevin Whalen
That made me bust a nut. - Mark Krynsky
Wow! I didn't think it was that bad. Am I an idiot? Maybe so, because I kinda liked it. I guess my taste sucks and I would fail as a movie critic. - Anthony K. Valley ©
Not at all Anthony - different strokes and all that. I've not seen it yet so I don't know how good/bad I'll find it. - WorldofHiglet
LMAO - sofarsoShawn
That's pretty bad, then, lol. - Rick Cogley
LOL :-D - Anna Haro
My friend fell asleep (drunk) in a cat box hehe. - Patrik Johansson
Marshall Kirkpatrick
there are few consumer level web 2.0 apps well suited for manipulating thousands of feeds.
more importantly, thousands of feeds with thousands of items. Cant wait for GReader API! Pipes & YQL is teh suck for now. - Kingsley Joseph
Tim O'Reilly
Astroturfing++ by "China's 50 cent army" http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns... Interesting form of cyber-warfare. Certified web propagandists #gov20
a large population was once a strategic advantage for nations, before heavy weaponry. it may turn out to be relevant again. - Kingsley Joseph
Anthony Citrano
With friends like the Libertarian Party, libertarians sure don't need any enemies.
Yeah, those guys are ass-holes. - Alex Scrivener
Any particular context for this? - Cristo
@cristo: nope. - Anthony Citrano
Dave Winer
Rex Hammock: "Spammers are making a joke out of the Trending Topics feature." http://twdsc.us/6.html
it was only a matter of time - Kingsley Joseph
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