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iotop, your best friend when LED of HD stays on | Fogo na Caixa dAgua - http://www.fogonacaixadagua.com.br/2009...
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"The server is slow to hell, badly accessing remotely, a simple ls it’s enougth to take a lot of seconds running… openning a program, no way… lot of minutes, time to take a cup of coffee. You, don’t understanding what’s goin on, go get a look at the server, sometimes wishing to reset it, then, surprisely see that the HD LED look’s like the POWER one, but, Red…"
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Anyone planning on buying David "GTD" Allen's new book "Making It All Work"? http://www.amazon.com/gp...
GlennIsaac, Dobromir Hadzhiev, Ha3rvey (Free hugs!) and 10 other people liked this
Yes.
- Robert Scoble
I still have Getting Things Done on my roster, but yes I am.
- Justin Davey
I already preordered my copy.
- asiriusgeek
Definitely
- Craig Eddy
I suppose I will, even though I'm not that big of a GTD person. Any book with useful information on productivity and career management is fair game to me ;)
- David Wilson
I probably won't get around to it.
- Todd Hoff
+25 @todd
- Craig Eddy
already ordered.
- Sean Oliver
Maybe. The sequel to GTD wasn't that good.
- Steve Rubel
Strands? Rejaw? Man you guys are killing me. Give me one reason to join either of them.
funkyboy, Carolyn Chan, Tibor Holoda and 23 other people liked this
I'm still debating the Strands thing. I just signed up for Rejaw. We will see.
- Kyle Lacy
Rejaw: no comment. Strands: it's a FriendFeed/SocialThing/SecondBrain clone with groups built-in and trending features. Those features are neat, but the UI is really busy and the refresh is slow.
- Mark Trapp
Tell me abou it Shey...I genuinely am starting to lose it.
- Zee.
I agree on the UI being busy. It was hard for me to use the system at first.
- Kyle Lacy
it has groups...damn, i gotta go check that out again... :)
- Zee.
I do not like Strands at all whatsoever. I don't see the point. I think I feel about Strands the way a lot of people feel about Rejaw, although I think Rejaw is awesome. And there, folks, is how you tie it all up at the end..LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Shey - Rejaw I just liked .. period. Strands I just literally did because I liked what Duncan Riley said about Drew (and I think it's totally friekin' ridiculous that Louis feels the need to put a disclaimer/disclosure on his site now. So, I done it out of principle :) ... but feel the same way you do. This is way outa control !
- Charlie Anzman
Rejaw is pretty nice in that it does not bore the daylights out of me, Strands not so much.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
same here. Gave Rejaw a shot - liked it, bit more low-tech conversations it seems, but... anyway, Strands i'm not even gonna look at.
- Peter Efland
from twhirl
I would recommend at least looking at Strands. It has some cool features that the other sites haven't utilized. Check out Louis Gray's breakdown of Strands: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Kyle Lacy
these new social apps are popping up way too quickly to give any of them a fair shake...and all of them are thirsty for a critical mass of new users. so, do you abandon the app you just signed up for last week to try the new one? it's getting too hard to keep up with all of the new stuff that's launching, let alone join them and evaluate them properly. dayamm!
- .LAG liked that
To really take off, they need a bunch of users. But the more sites that pop up, the more fragmented the user base gets. Good to be either (1) early, like Twitter; or (2) Really head and shoulders above everyone else.
- Hutch Carpenter
Have we reached critical mass? :) Even for social media nerds?
- Kyle Lacy
Kyle: the rule of thumb is more than 30-50k users; estimates put FriendFeed at about 75-100k users.
- Mark Trapp
I meant' critical mass for US the users.. not necessarily the amount of users.. I have reached BRAIN critical mass
- Kyle Lacy
I have been in Hesitant Adopter mode for a while. I'm not saying I won't try new things at all, but I am becoming exhausted by the profusion of web services and pressure to migrate to the next Shiny Object.
- Chris Baskind
Totally agreed. Seems like copies of other things, with slight value add. I don't need value add for FriendFeed, specifically...I want value subtract, if anything.
- Eric Florenzano
I think if you really want to have staying power, either 1) you have to do something that nobody else comes close to doing, or at least nobody with a big user base does, and that something needs to satisfy a pressing need for people online, or 2) your tool needs to come out precisely when people are most dissatisfied with the tool you're attempting to replace. FriendFeed and Facebook...
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- Mark Trapp
Shey, the Rejaw room on FF is a good place to start, since a lot of the information and discussions are consolidated there :) Im sure there is a Strands room , somewhere, and LG also did a piece on it. I WOULD link you, however I don't have copy and paste :p Guess what I'm FFing to go from? ;)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
@Chris Yup, same here.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Here's the real goal, guys... no fragmentation. Use all of them. :-)
- Louis Gray
Easy to say. :-)
- Kyle Lacy
Hah! Yeah right, Louis. I want to see someone maintain a strong presence on FriendFeed, SocialThing and Strands.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
With different content on all three!
- Kyle Lacy
I can do it for FriendFeed, Strands and SocialMedian. As for Rejaw, Twitter is enough for me, and using Posty, it hits Identi.ca as well.
- Louis Gray
Louis: I think you were born with the natural ability of Social Media POWER.. It's almost unnatural.. As for the rest, God help us.
- Kyle Lacy
@louis gray I haven't found yet how to do that level of integration. Wish I could.
- Colide81 (James)
lol@Kyle +1
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Strands makes me feel limited. I can't explain it. maybe the UI, but I feel like I'm in a box. I also got bored of following people, they should make that easier. New services should not make you visit a profile just to add someone. I may try it again, but it made my stomach hurt so I'm taking a break..LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
actually, rejaw is the better of the strictly microblogging platforms, but it came too late to the party... when it comes down to it, it's got 2 major strong points - 1) real time updates, 2) a team of developers that is listening to its users and responding to them quickly.
- Lucretia Pruitt
@Kyle, I consider it a challenge, and it's fun. Part of the idea is also two-fold: You don't know which service will win in the end, so it makes sense to participate if you can, and secondly, if conversations are happening around your content, you should be there, whether it's any of these sites, or Twitter, Shyftr, etc.
- Louis Gray
Good point Louis but still (being humble aside) you have social media powers.
- Kyle Lacy
@Kyle, I guess there's also a sense of responsibility. I believe I was the first to cover Social Median back in April, and I haven't seen Strands discussed anywhere else either (though it probably has been). When I get the opportunity to debut a site, I can get over-engaged. I wasn't the first to FriendFeed, but early on, I was one of those who saw its potential early... and look what happened. :-P
- Louis Gray
The difference is our recommendation technology. It's the core of everything we do, and we want to help you use it to find cool stuff and cool people.
- drew olanoff
Ah, I guess if I thought people were talking about my stuff somewhere, I'd want to be there.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I have had a Strands beta account for almost 3 months now. I think the interface has a polished look, but is very chock full of stuff like most have said. Considering the fact that it sounds like many of you are trying it out now it might be as quiet around there as it has been. Don't forget to download the STrands Tracker app that goes along with it. Thats definitely something unique amongst the competition.
- Adam Helweh
Adam is right about Strands Tracker. It's pretty good, and ties into the Mac OS X menubar.
- Louis Gray
download software? Like...directly onto my harddisk? What is this, 1997?!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
For me if it's not much extra regular work to maintain it then I'll try it out. For Rejaw it just another one of these micro-blogging sites that I can add to Ping.fm or Helloxt (please?). As for Strands, I joined more for the Strands Tracker to see what that is about. On top of my keen interest in photography I'm also a huge fan of music and hope this tracker will add to Last.fm in the recommendations department. We'll see. Not much effort to join up to all these new services, so worth a go IMHO. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
None.
- Sweyn Venderbush
from twhirl
Fine, signed up for Strands. Rejaw, we'll see.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Apologies in advance to Chris Pirillo, but am I the only one here that has absolutely no interest in what's going on at Gnomedex?
Russellreno, Kevin P. Inscoe (KE3VIN), WorldofHiglet and 15 other people liked this
I second that Alex. Me and you I think.
- Kyle Lacy
Gnomedex Schomedex
- Kyle Lacy
Yeah doing a lot of hiding of all the posts here from my brother and my sister in law, both of whom I love dearly. I think I just don't get conferences in general, but I really have no idea what Gnomedex is really about. I know it's loosely about tech, but beyond that it's inscrutable to me. Then again it's not about computer security, home theater or gaming, which is probably why I have little interest in it.
- Alex Scoble
I with you. It's the Rejaw of tech conferences.
- Mark Trapp
Alex: it's a celebration of geekiness. The talks yesterday were really awesome. You'll probably like what I do next week at the IFA conference (a huge consumer electronics show in Berlin).
- Robert Scoble
I'll be honest. I went to gnomedex.com to watch. lol. This woman need to pipe it.
- Kyle Lacy
Okay. Honestly. Who cares? Do you really have conferences about the definition of the word blog?
- Kyle Lacy
I would blog about PAX while I am there next week, but I will be experiencing expo awesomeness in its purest form and so sadly will not be able to.
- Phil G
Hehe, Kyle...twenty years from now people will still be asking "what's a blog?"
- Alex Scoble
Exactly.. I'm just confused about all of this.
- Kyle Lacy
Alex, I never heard of Gnomedex, and I thought I was born a geek. I guess this is proof that I'm not. Or perhaps I'm a mutant geek? :)
- imabonehead
Alex, "I remember my grandpa said something about blogs.."
- Pete Delucchi
I don't even know what Gnomedex is. Isn't GNome still a desktop environment for LInux? I so confuzed...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Kyle: Gnomedex has always had a lot of bloggers/influentials. So, discussing blogging makes sense.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I understand the concept of talking about blogging and discussing strategy. I'm just confused on the point of arguing over the use of the word "blog".
- Kyle Lacy
Gnomedex is Chris Pirillo's personal tech/geek conference. This is the 8th year he's held it. Hopefully Lindsay and I will get to go next year.
- Internet's Tad
I watched Beth Kanter's talk last night and it was pretty cool. Then I went ahead and watched the icanhascheezburger guy too, which was mildly amusing,
- Laura Norvig
Chris has said in the past that the opinions of people who attend Gnomedex hold "infinitely more weight" than the people who don't attend Gnomedex, so doubtful you -- or anybody else in this thread that's not there -- will be motivating him to change anything, Alex, see: http://chris.pirillo.com/2007...
- TDavid
It's pretty telling of a person that the only way they'll consider a position is if you pay them 600 dollars.
- Mark Trapp
@Tdavid I find it completely rediculous that Chris feels that way.
- Kyle Lacy
@MarkTrapp damn straight
- Kyle Lacy
I'm not trying to get Chris Pirillo to change Gnomedex. I'm just saying that going to a conference for the sole purpose of celebrating my nerdiness doesn't appeal to me at all. Oh and J. Phil, I'll be at PAX next weekend too.
- Alex Scoble
@Alex - then what is the point of your comment? To say it bores you and wondering if anybody else is bored? That's it? Heck, I'm bored by a thousand different conferences out there. It doesn't mean that it's not interesting to the people who are attending (or others without the $$$ to attend). As for PAX, will be there too and will be blogging about it :)
- TDavid
To start a conversation with other people who have no interest in Gnomedex...and to complain about all the posts in Friendfeed on it that I've had to hide so far :)
- Alex Scoble
I also would like to voice an opinion over Chris wearing a backpack... Somebody needs to buy him a man bag.
- Kyle Lacy
Alex are you saying you are bored using social media for a good cause? because we raised $3600 to send a young Cambodian woman to college thru. Beth Kanter's talk yesterday. Or are you saying you are bored with impacts of search on privacy because Danny Sullivan was able to call Random attendees on stage and pull bunch of info. on them from the web. or are you saying you are bored with LOLCATS? Or taking good tips on how to take awesome pictures? I am not sure if this is just a case of sour grapes bro.
- Maryam Scoble
+1 Maryam :)
- Mona Nomura
I'm not a blogger, but I thoroughly enjoy getting together with others who have like-minded interests, at the very least for the motivation. It looks like a heck of a lot of fun to me, but then I'm a nerd.
- jcunwired
Another perspective from a Gnomedex attendee: "Last year was my first Gnomedex and I was floored by the quality of people, speakers and attendees. I can say with no hesitation that this year is the best Gnomedex so far, by far." source: http://blog.davemadethat.com/2008...
- TDavid
But as participators in Social Media, it's interesting to hear about what the speakers are talking about. Is open ID irrelevant to the both of you, Alex and Kyle?
- Mona Nomura
Pretty much, Mona :)
- Alex Scoble
And Mark and Kyle: $600 is nothing, compared to a lot of blogging conferences out there, have you guys ever held a conference? Planned an event? :)
- Mona Nomura
I despise it with a passion... Maybe even more than I despise the Blogger comment feature.
- Kyle Lacy
Alex and myself do not need OpenID.. we float through websites.
- Kyle Lacy
Alex: Don't you want to know more about the services you're utilizing? Or do you just go in blindsided?
- Mona Nomura
Maryam- No, I'm bored of all the contextless twitter posts about how great everything is...and I'm not the type of person who will probably ever watch a video of a conference.
- Alex Scoble
Mona- I have my own special way of learning about things...and it usually doesn't involve going to conferences. :)
- Alex Scoble
-1 Mona. I wasn't talking about the irrelevance of a blogging conference in general. I was talking about a 10 mins section of gnomedex when they were arguing over the use of the word "blog". I thought it was entertaining. -2 Mona. :)
- Kyle Lacy
Honestly, I see bits and pieces flying around about Gnomedex, but I haven't really seen anything Official. Like "Here is the Gnomedex homepage" and " Here is a vid of a discussion about panties" or "TUne in live http://here.com to catch a presentation about bleh"
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
You can find out about all those technologies without paying 600 dollars to Chris Pirillo. People are talking about those things every single day. The idea that there are only 230 people in the whole world are going to know about technologies that affect the world by paying 600 dollars and attending some conference is inane. Conferences are great: you get to meet and network with...
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- Mark Trapp
Kyle: Fair enough LOL I have minus points. @Alex: Well I think it's awesome Chris is streaming it live, for the people who couldn't be there. To each their own :) @Rah: live.pirillo.com, dude
- Mona Nomura
Mona I agree with that. I think it is awesome we can watch it live. Absolutely! +2 Mona
- Kyle Lacy
Mark: you don't need to pay Chris Pirillo anything to learn about what is going on on stage. The entire conference is being streamed live on Ustream.
- Robert Scoble
This single moment, seen here on this video, is the reason why Im sad I wasnt there (hard to not appreciate the spirit behind this): http://www.drewolanoff.com/post...
- Andrew Baron
Look guys, nothing against gnomedex, but I'm personally tired of blogging about blogging (or tweeting about twitter or using ff to talk about ff). Just frelling do something cool (tech related or otherwise) and talk about it.We need more content and less comments (I apologize for the irony of this comment).
- Sam Levine
What I really want to know is if the attendees are getting cool swag. I'm a swagaholic. Can I haz cuil foam logo [not to be confused with LEGO] maskots and blinkin' pinz, pleez?
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
The last two sessions have had some really great technologists from the University of Washington. Onscreen now is a vocal joystick. Alex, you might like to see this for its impact on games.
- Robert Scoble
Meh. I thought Gnomedex was a directory for gnomes. I was unsure of what gnomes might be, possibly troll-killers. Fail.
- WorldofHiglet
I like Chris, but I agree, and I live in Seattle.
- Ryan
It's difficult to be all things to all people at all price points. ;) Duncan Riley's post sums it up quite nicely, I believe - he groks the energy, the concept of shared experiences, etc. - http://www.inquisitr.com/2618... - can't "get that" online, really. That, and it's too bad nobody here was interested (including locals), because I would have done just about anything (before reading entries in this thread) for you to join us. ;) No joke...
- l0ckergn0me
Obama should name four VP candidates, and American can vote them off, American Idol style, during the convention. Phone in your votes now!
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Brilliant!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Or how about "So you think you can Lead?"
- Colby Olson
Convention ratings would be huge. I'd want singing. Bayh vs Biden.
- Hutch Carpenter
AHAHA "So you think you can lead?" LOL Perfect!
- ·[▪_▪]·
@Colby: +4, though I prefer "So you think you can veep?"
- AJ Kohn
Rumor is, Dave Winer for VP!
- Mona Nomura
oh yes, and that's a sure fire recipe to bring back respect for politicians and government :-)
- Duncan Riley
with each phone call you donate $1.99 towards obama's campaign fund. genius.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Gah! No more campaigning!
- Ernie Oporto
American politics have already lost all signs of dignity, so we might as well have an American Idol style presidential campaign.
- Bob Blunk
So his first major decision should be made by committee?I think that smacks of a poor leader.
- Roger Kondrat
Is anybody reading this? I've only gotten one like and no commentsin the past six days. Feeling a little burned out on FriendFeed now. Also,my blog and GoodReads aren't updating.
Mathew A. Koeneker, Dobromir Hadzhiev, Nathan Rein and 28 other people liked this
we are here.
- Robert Scoble
I saw this.
- Morton Fox
I read lots of your stuff Mitch - just don't always comment.
- Internet's Tad
I see you there! Also go refresh your feed manually in FF for your blog and GR. Edit the service in your settings and click on the "Refresh feed"
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I've been a bit of a fair-weather friendfeeder - neither commenting, liking or sharing - the honeymoon's over I fear
- Noah Carter
You blog feed is valid, so I'm not sure why it's not updating. But we see you. :-)
- Chris Baskind
I am here. Be not discouraged. :D
- Nate Pilling
from twhirl
I see you too! :) I'm not subscribed though. But, I can easily fix that.
- Yolanda
I think everyone is starting to feel burned out, I've noticed that comments and likes are saved for only the a-listers these days :(
- Jennifer Van Grove
This brings up a good point. Does commenting on other people's posts help bring in comments to what you are doing?
- Nate Pilling
from twhirl
I try and comment and like where I can, added you as a friend just in case you need a hug!
- Joe Dawson
@Nate, not in my experience.
- asiriusgeek
If you refresh GoodReads it should start updating again.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
I see you, Mitch.
- Cyndy
....is there anybody ---out ----there...
- Kim
is there anyone home. +1 Kim!
- Yolanda
♫ see me / feel me / touch me / heal me ♫ :-D
- Karim
@Mitch, I posted something similar here: http://friendfeed.com/e... How much time do you need to spend commenting on everyone else's feeds to have them find what your contributing interesting? Are comments and likes like currency?
- Adam Helweh
ping
- Christian Anderson
Refresh doesn't seem to work. Adam, I don't like to use the word "currency" wrt to social media -- but I do think commenting and liking other people's posts will get you attention in return. People are more likely to recognize your name when it floats by in the big FriendFeed crowd.
- Mitch Wagner
If you are not very active in Commenting and Like'ing and your feed is not above average in quality and quantity, it's quite possible you will fade into the noise. Like Mitch says, if you are active, people will start to recognize your name and want to see what you're posting.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
You know what bugs me most? I see these "inactive" (but A+ List) FriendFeeders who have extreme activity on their account -- BUT THEY DON'T EVEN CARE! They don't check, they don't log in, nada. They signed up to FF to claim their name and added a few services, and people subscribe to them and comment. EVERY DAY. Grr. Sorry. I had to get it out. And I can totally relate, Mitch.
- Tamar Weinberg
Tamar: I hear ya - I had to do a little "A-List pruning" myself... (http://friendfeed.com/e...)
- Steve Isaacs
I agree, Tamar. Some even start the convo and just randomly walk off...never to be seen again. That's not discussion...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Hello from another Mitch. I just subscribed to you today because you popped up in my "Best of" tab. Apologies if you commented/liked things and I didn't notice. Some days there are 500+ likes and 200+ comments on my stuff, and I'm swamped. 400 new followers that I haven't had time to visit. Who knows what life is like for A-list people like Robert Scoble, Veronica Belmont, etc...? I'm amazed that Robert has the energy to interact as much as he does!
- Mitchell Tsai
I'm there, er here...
- Jeff P. Henderson
hardly anyone's been liking or commenting on my stuff for a while either
- Nathan Rein
Two months of changes - http://changelog.friendfeed.com/2008...
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Late is better than never, right? ;)
- Bret Taylor
I like '4be7b2d69f91', I'm curious about '208ce5d106f5' and '3830ed3ef268', wondering about '431acb1cfc12', and I'm really glad about 'd8167b20f3f4'.
- DeWitt Clinton
And I just exceeded my FF time quota for today.... Later!
- DeWitt Clinton
thanks! I was wonderin' what happened to that :P
- Tim Hoeck
@dewitt, thought you'd be most happy about "Implemented support for the Google Contacts Data API and AuthSub." After all your nagging :)
- Bret Taylor
Heh -- I thought I already thanked you for that. If not, thank you! I tried it out a few weeks ago and it worked flawlessly. Turns out all my friends are already here. : )
- DeWitt Clinton
brave of FF to share this. now if we could just see the actual code ;).
- Adam Loving
from StumbleRead
Wow. I am not an engineer. But I actually enjoyed that. There were thing that I forgot were improvements/changes that I totally take for granted now. Thanks for being the transparent company. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
Like 148992b79c02, rather than me wondering if you're scanning through all of my e-mail.
- nadim
Judging by how few of Bret's CLs made it to this list, should we assume that he is working on a super secret project or had too many cuss words in his descriptions :)
- Bindu Reddy
Whats this? No commits on 8/16? SLACKERS!
- DGentry
Does Benjamin Golub now work for FF? If so, that's great! If not, how come he's able to make changes?
- Tony Ruscoe
My guess is that we all work for Friendfeed on some level...
- Clare Dibble
I think you're right, Clare. How much payment should we demand?
- Gabe
Benjamin's even got a FriendFeed email address though... this is a conspiracy!
- Tony Ruscoe
@Clare: I think what you are saying can be captured as "user labor". Meta-markets is based upon this idea - http://meta-markets.com/about
- Turker Keskinpala
Scientific Nightmare: The Horizon Problem - http://www.reddit.com/goto...
Kevin P. Inscoe (KE3VIN) liked this
I noticed something. When I read my feeds on Google Reader, I get smarter. When I read Twitter I learn how boring our lives usually are. When I read FriendFeed I find out how smart you are. All three have their place. :-)
Alexander Arsky, Pete Steege, Lu Tao and 98 other people liked this
I only use Twitter and FriendFeed... goes to show how smart I am ;)
- Michael Forian
When I read your in depth personal sharings like this, I love www more. Peace! ;-)
- Erhan Erdogan
It's not about either or, it's all about AND
- Dave Martin
Strange I find FriendFeed covers all three for me
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: and your comment just proved my point true above! :-)
- Robert Scoble
We love you too scoble, we love you too ;)
- Alemsah Ozturk
Nicely put.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I feel the humor factor shows up better here than Reader and Twitter.
- Scot Duke
Twitter doesn't make me realize how boring our lives are, just that our lives are all very much the same no matter who we are, where we live, and/or what we do. Which is kind of cool to me.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
+1 @Brian
- cjmart
still got to catch with all the friendfeed updates!! Still hanging around with fcbk and orkut!!
- Moksh Juneja
from twhirl
Thinking about it, I agree with you, Robert
- Migger
Well said... I mostly just use Twitter and FriendFeed but should get back on habit of reading what matters at Google Reader.
- Daniel Schildt
And of course, you posted on friendfeed instead of twitter. ;-)
- Brent Logan
so everone on FF uses Google Reader, whereas I use Bloglines. Why Google Reader?
- anna sauce
@anna. GR + feedly = fun
- Dave Martin
I've abandoned both Google Reader and Twitter.
- Thomas Hawk
LOL. funny but true. i still use all three. but i use FF most of the time and also incorporated it into my blog. to make it look a little smarter :)
- ~C4Chaos
i use the hell of of ff and greader, but they lack the humanity of twitter. i'm an infojunkie, but there has to be more to life online than just data.
- eric mortensen
from twhirl
I find Google Reader the most useful of the three by far. But when I want to discuss something or see what others with like interests are talking about, I find FriendFeed to be the place to go.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Robert, I try to have the same effect from all three :) when i m done with the daily minimum i switch to the second effect and finally third :)
- Hayk H.
On the consumption end, I agree. On the production end, however, I find that I share more in FriendFeed directly than sharing from GoogleReader (because I can attach pictures to the share in FF -- plus it shows up immediately). That seems to make my FriendFeed feed smarter than my GoogleReader feed. (Doesn't matter that much, tho, as they're combined in the end.)
- Christopher Galtenberg
I have to say that I'm a FF addict like the rest of us, but the past few days I've found it kinda boring and self-serving. Now that's bound to happen, but the chatter seems to have become less interesting of late and more like graffiti IMO. Maybe it's an end of summer thing.
- Jason Goldberg
Well that would be a judgement upon your friends, not the service, nay? :) (update: lol, just saw your friendfeed subscription come thru - the pressure's on!!)
- Christopher Galtenberg
@christopher sorta yes, of course. the question i do have is how much will be graffiti vs. substance? again, i'm an addict, just wondering
- Jason Goldberg
@Jason, it's time out for the Olympics!
- asiriusgeek
@jason we need a friendfeed substance pledge! (actually just a way to mark FF contributions as private graffiti, to use your helpful terminology)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Friendfeed indirectly feeds my google reader - so it makes me smarter too
- George Smith
I have to agree with this one totally Robert. Top 3 in my 'social graph' right now. I do pick up an occasional important passing item from Twitter (when time allows). GReader would be better if more people shared. Friendfeed is providing the best remote networking opportunity I've ever seen (and can be fun too!). All of the other 'new' tools bear watching and are all 'pipes' for those looking to promote themselves, or their products.
- Charlie Anzman
Trying to figure out what Identi.ca makes me. People don't tend to just blabber on identi.ca as much as Twitter. I find there are a lot of really smart developers there, so is it becoming a community for developers then?
- Jesse Stay
Every once in a great while now, when things seem to take a momentary awkward silence on FF, I may poke my head in to twitter or my rss feeds. There's just so much good activity here, it's hard to turn my head away sometimes.
- Pete Delucchi
Lovely comment Robert! Had me laughing...
- Mitchell Tsai
Yap, but Twitter also shows how crazy people can be driven ;)
- Martin Gommel
I'm starting to get this. Thanks for the coaching.
- Pete Steege
A first look at the Google Android SDK » VentureBeat - http://venturebeat.com/2008...
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cool.. installing the new beta SDK now to check it out!
- Tim Hoeck
Considering proven battery drainage of Bluetooth, do you think Bluetooth API is a smart direction? I don't. Especially since these handsets are marketed specifically for business users... btw, I'm a huge fan of the Android project and want to see the handsets compete against the iPhone (successfully)
- Mona Nomura
@Mona N. Compared to other radios that you could have on a mobile phone (3G, Wifi, GSM, etc), Bluetooth is the least power hungry.
- Jason Chen
I want I can use it on my Psp
- accesine
I wish I could run this on my N73. S60's nice, but it's not pretty (and I like trying new things).@Mona N. Bluetooth power consumption varies from device to device. My T-Mo Dash had horrible battery life with Bluetooth, but my N73 can run data over Bluetooth all day and not drain more than 20% battery power. @accesine Not likely. It's not a phone and it lacks the same interface architecture as a phone.
- Ivan
looks pretty darn intuitive
- Pete Delucchi
6 Online Email Aggregators that Do More Than Just Aggregate - http://mashable.com/2008...
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18 Ways to Power Search Google - http://www.inquisitr.com/2314...
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good tips
- Stephen Jones
some classics mixed in with some lesser known ones
- Duncan Riley
nice summary put into one page!!
- Hayk H.
You can also check out my slightly outdated article about Google Search syntax at http://sudarmuthu.com/blog...
- Sudar
Камчатка (1134×440) [Korzik.net] - http://korzik.net/uploads...
![Камчатка (1134×440) [Korzik.net]](http://korzik.net/uploads/posts/1183974285_kamchatka_24.jpg "Камчатка (1134×440) [Korzik.net]") |
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~20 photos of Kamchatka at http://korzik.net/2007... Warning: some of the small ads on the side at NSFW.
- Mitchell Tsai
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Reposted by ebitary at Pixdaus http://pixdaus.com/single...
- Mitchell Tsai
Very nice... love the cloud formation
- Anthony K. Valley ©
from twhirl
this reminds me of the Paramount Pictures logo...
- edythe
Powerful.
- Charles Frith
I always wondered how people can use word "pixdaus" (granted they know how to translate word Камчатка into Kamchatka) and same time consider small pics on side as NSFW :)
- A.T.
@pop17 Those Playboy polls are insulting and demeaning. Most people put up with them for the publicity - good on you for protesting.
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Leo is also insulted that he wasn't selected to be on the list! :snickers to himself:
- Geoff Schultz
Just curious, I don't want to start a potentially ugly debate, but how exactly is it insulting? Thanks.
- Randy
Randy: It's not, not in general. But I can think of any number of reasons why an individual might *feel* insulted, and they're entitled to their feelings.
- Roger Benningfield
So it insulting and demeaning for playboy to post a head shot of Sarah Austin, for a poll and she wants it taken down. Fine it is her image and that is her right. Though is it also insulting and demeaning that Sarah spent todays entire episode of Pop17 playing the Wii fit girl video over and over? http://www.viddler.com/explore.... Will she pull down that episode if the Wii fit girl ask her too?
- Charles Dick
Um, settle down, Beavis. :) The "insulting and demeaning" thing is Leo's. I asked Sarah here on FF if she was offended by Playboy's offered opportunity, and she said she wasn't. It's possible that she's just not comfortable being put in a competitive position with these other women... not everyone loves a contest. Don't project Leo's bias on to her.
- Roger Benningfield
I'm happy whenever a decent guy defends women's rights to not be objectified. Go, Leo!
- kiwinerd
Yeah, I don't know the whole situation, but this is *Playboy*. I think we all know what their motives are. And in the interest of full disclosure, I'm a male, but I think it's all about the way in which it's presented. Some women may feel as though this is akin to walking down the street and running into a bunch of guys going ga-ga and saying, "Whip out dem tits baybee!" But unlike real life, if you don't like what you're seeing in the Internets, you can close the window/tab and ignore it.
- Randy
From what I understand and, have read quite a few of those women (if not all) were made aware by Playboy that their pictures and bios were going up in the poll. Although, apparently they weren't aware the winner may be asked to pose nude. Given that and, the fact a commenter here said she wasn't offended, I wonder why she wants it taken down?
- The Geek Media
I also can appreciate and respect her desire to not have her "brand" associated with that one. Insulting may be a little strong however. After all PB is not exactly triple X material.
- Robert
It's totally insulting. Playboy values women only for their looks. "Win" the poll and get an invite to pose nude. Yick. Would you ask Einstein to pose nude? I would hope that Sarah is more interested in being valued for what she knows than how she looks. If you think Playboy's vah vah voom attitude isn't demeaning to women you might want to examine your values.
- Leo Laporte
To tell you the truth, I hope that the winner chooses not to pose (especially if it's Brigitte, because I follow her video blog). Somehow something important would be lost IMHO, whether it's a perception of innocence on the part of her followers or something else. Somehow it seems wrong to me, it's hard to explain
- Thomas B
from NoiseRiver
"If you think Playboy's vah vah voom attitude isn't demeaning to women you might want to examine your values" Luv ya, Leo, but couldja show me your "I'm a middle-aged guy entitled to speak for women" certificate? I believe these legal adults made their own decisions - and some had "poser's remorse" afterwards (posus interruptus?)
- Dean Barnett
Well that's a good question. Did Playboy ask permission? They certainly don't have to - all the women are public figures. If Playboy did, that's great. If Sarah said yes and then regretted it, I can certainly understand, but at that point Playboy has no obligation to take it down.
- Leo Laporte
Yeah, wow Leo. Tone down the snark a bit. Oh, and I wouldn't ask Einstein to pose nude because 1) He's *dead*, and 2) He isn't sexy to me. It's as simple as that. Playboy isn't drugging up runaways on Sunset Boulevard, they're saying, "Hey, flat out--we think you're attractive and some people may want to see you naked. Cool? It's not? That's cool too."
- Randy
Unsure about the Playboy thing. After all, @shelisrael and @Scobleizer posed topless. Maybe if more male bloggers--never mind!
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Now seeing someone only for their looks is one thing. But this started based off their jobs.. AND, its saying that they have the brains to be in this position, and yet also have amazing looks. It's hardly insulting unless someone takes offense to what most would consider a compliment, or a dream offer.
- InsaneNinja
I agree with Leo. Its simply an opinion poll. The only thing they could possibly be asked to take down is the picture, and that was probably taken by their own photographers anyway, so no take-down there. The Funny part I think is what is it with Mothers taking their 8 year olds, to go to a signing for Playboy Models.... Please someone explain that. But besides that, it brings and interesting question of how companies deal with polls. Do you think its right for things like that, be put live without consent?
- Tyler (Chacha)
Well they are meant to be fun. But i was wondering if they ask for the Bloggers to agree to be on it or not? I don't know that.
- Jorge
I think that just the simple fact that they're objectifying these women can be construed to be both demeaning and insulting. However, on a personal basis, I wouldn't mind Playgirl putting my ugly mug on a poll. Further, since they are public figures, I don't think Playboy has to ask to do anything with their faces and bios.
- Charles Ju
Leo: I have so many problems with what you're saying that I scarcely know where to start. :) Saying that Playboy only values women for their looks is like saying that ESPN only values Kobe Bryant for his athleticism... um, yeah, so? If Einstein were hot and alive in 2008, we would have already seen him at least half-naked via Perez. And since when is life a series of binary options? Why can't a woman be valued for what she knows *and* how she looks? *And* how she can belch the Constitution's preamble?
- Roger Benningfield
Leo: But most of all... "examine your values"? That's an awfully high horse you've got there, Mr. Laporte. Beware the steeplechase. :)
- Roger Benningfield
Roger: I am kinda with you on that one. I mean if we can not value someone for their looks than Hollywood should just shut down, modeling should become illegal and teeth whitening the subject of tabloids. Also all of those old oil paintings in the Louvre? Confiscate them. I think people took their clothes off for a lot of them. PB is about as Americana as Elvis by many people's estimates. To be sure a lot of extreme adult stuff is distasteful to a majority of people. Not sure that I see this in that light.
- Robert
I don't much care for Playboy either, but seriously don't get why the intelligentsia is so anti-beauty. It's weird. I'd just reiterate what I said more extensively in this conversation: http://friendfeed.com/e... , which is: beauty is just as valid a way for the world to unfold as is anything else. Kinda agreeing with Roger and Robert here.
- Anthony Citrano
I'm an adult woman and a loyal member of the "TWiT army", and I back Leo strongly here. Leo's defence, on air and off, of women's and girls' rights - like the right to not be objectified - is way admirable. Leo Laporte is the Chief TWiT for a reason, and it's not just for his technical, journalistic, and teaching prowess and friendly demeanour. Leo's a fundamentally decent person, a role model, which is why it matters that he exerts leadership. Leo, you're my hero!
- kiwinerd
Well said @kiwinerd! I believe that is why so many good people are drawn to Leo.
- Jim Bednarz
I don't know why you people are criticizing Leo for openly protecting the liberties of another human being. It's pretty ridiculous that Leo has to defend his stance, you guys are immature and should be ashamed. Just think if your wife, gf, sister, or mother was put into a Playboy poll, would you be ok with that? If not, then you're a hypocrite.
- Charles Ju
Doesn't the poll just boil down to "Who would you rather see naked?" That seems like a pretty crude and immature question to me.
- Mark
So, Mark, once one "matures", they don't like to see girls naked? I'm also not getting what's "crude" about naked women. I dislike Playboy, too, but because of their unapologetic tack and ordinariness, not that they aspire to worship at the altar of women they find attractive.
- Anthony Citrano
Ask yourself why it's important to get female bloggers naked, and yet nearly everone wants to keep the male bloggers fully clothed. It doesn't strike you the least bit odd that only guys can be noteworthy simply for the work they do? I've been playing around on the net for 15 years, and I learned quickly not to let people know I was female. No one asks for pictures if he thinks you're a guy; it's what you say that's important. Reveal your gender, and the request for pictures -- clothed or sans -- begin.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
I was trying to say that the concept of the poll, any kind of poll like this, seems just kind of stupid. I agree with those that say these kind of layouts make women objects - I think MiniMage makes this point very well. As a man, I know I have to fight the temptation to see women only in terms of their appearance. I think things like Playboy and this poll play to almost a caveman instinct. Is this really what being a man is all about - voting on which woman I would rather see naked?
- Mark
Examined values, don't think it is demeaning. We've seen the emails asking permission. They didn't even need to do that.
- matthew
I see what you mean Mark. I'm just saying I don't get why saying a woman is sexy/beautiful is objectifying. Pointing out one asset of a person in no way diminishes the others. I mean, if someone says to me "that's a great article you wrote" or "what a great picture you took", I don't stomp my feet and get indignant and whine, "is that all I am to you? just a string of words?! what about my heart, my soul, my cooking, my business skills??"
- Anthony Citrano
@MiniMage - the reason men ask for pictures of women is because men are far, far more visually motivated than women. Guys care what women look like more than women care what guys look like. I also disagree with your premise; women can be noteworthy simply for the work they do - plenty are. But if one is beautiful, I just don't see why that's a bad thing. The world gives everybody certain gifts - and beauty is no more or less a gift than athletic ability, speaking skills, or being a good programmer.
- Anthony Citrano
@Anthony Citrano (acitrano): The premise isn't mine; it's the message I get from Playboy. I get that guys have the visual "on" switch. Furthermore, I'd be lying if I claimed my eyes only looked at my beloved technology. However, I think this goes beyond (beneath?) "this blogger is an excellent combination of functionality and form." Can't women be beautiful without looking like they're about to cater to a fella's, ah, reproductive instinct?
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
from NoiseRiver
@Mini - understood. And I'm not sticking up for them; as I said, I'm not a fan. Just was exploring our reaction to the broader issue of beauty. I think sometimes people have this knee-jerk reaction that's weirdly anti-beauty, or at least anti-beauty-appreciation. And you're right that they're not pitching the whole product, no. But they're in "entertainment," so what can we expect? :)
- Anthony Citrano
Interesting discussion on a provocative subject. The double standard in political correctness bothers me. PB bad but XYZ thing good. Males are visual I get that too and who would apologize for biology? My wife has had a net presence for years and she gets a lot of interesting emails to say the least, most are pretty poor attempts but some are rather funny and creative in a non-threatening sort of way. It is simply nature.
- Robert
How many in favor of twitter and FriendFeed requiring mandatory screening for Tourette's syndrome. I mean dayum-think before you click send people.
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Wat yoo talkin bout, Willis?
- Dread Pirate PJ
from Alert Thingy
I'm certainly guilty of this
- xero
I realize that we have option of looking away or hiding here it's just that not everything really needs to be said out loud especially on the internet.
- Mark Forman
You sound angry. Here's take this pill and eat it. You'll feel much better. Yes...much better.
- Jim Stanger
No you're thinking of Cypher in the Matrix!
- Mark Forman
Proof reading would be nice sometimes!
- Brun J. Swick
still won't prevent it, just limit the #s
- clarke thomas
Not wanting to be a censor or net nanny, just occasionally I see stuff and feel,"Wow my life was really so much better before I read that about your infection, pet, child or ----------- doing what ever!
- Mark Forman
Why MPG is a Stupid Measurement - http://www.ecogeek.org/content...
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A general observation for no one in particular --> Consider not saying out loud every nasty personal thought that pops into your mind.
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I can agree with that. Hide nasty thoughts, but reveal weird, innocent thoughts!
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Even people on the internet need to be reminded of something we were taught from childhood "If you can't say something nice..."
- Candace
...say it in the New York Times."
- Robert Scoble
@Robert, I wish I could mark that comment as LOVED!
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Another adage to go with that one: Choose your battles.
- Dave Winer
Anthony - I'm not sure that's what Dave meant... You can disagree and not be nasty...
- Internet's Tad
Of course this note attracted all of FF's resident trolls. Big surprise there. :-)
- Dave Winer
@Robert - nice finish! I suppose you can also finish it with "..say it on the internet under a fake name."
- Candace
I chose this battle. You advocate censorship and I disagree. That wasnt nasty. That was downright logical.
- Anthony
What's with everyone getting so sensitive? First Scoble's filtering negative comments on FastCompany.tv, then Calacanis's departure, now Dave Winer's version of Rodney Kings famous "Can't we all just get along?". What's really going on?
- Jim McCusker
Dave is showing what I have learned is the wisdom of age/survival at least that is how I see it. I felt like some geeky Don Quixote last night. Civility and common courtesy belongs everywhere.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
from fftogo
Along those lines is the old adage, don't put anything in email that you wouldn't be comfortable seeing on a 5' x 5' poster in front of a jury.
- David Thomas
While the source (Jimbo Wales) makes it sadly ironic, I still love the quote: "be honest with me, but don't be mean to me." Sums up what I strive for in life communication.
- Anthony Citrano
amen!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
from twhirl
That is perfect Anthony. I hadn't heard that before.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Now that I am back inside. I agree with both of those adages if you will.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I would qualify Dave's adage: Go ahead and say it out loud, At home, in front of your computer, where no one else can hear it but you. Get it out. Then if you have a real argument to make about whatever or whomever pissed you off, do so. I guess my cliche is: Count to ten.
- Rick Powell
Ya its really not classy. Now excuse me i have to poo
- sean percival
troll bait tweet! ha, ha! ... also laughing at Sean's post above.
- Susan Beebe
There is a time and a place for everything. One should choose one's recipients on the internet for anything that may upset carefully - i.e send any risque stuff to only those that find it funny and not offensive, just as you would (or should) in person
- Ian May
with lack of power comes great lack of responsibility.
- Derek Tutschulte
Mother always taught me "pick your battles..." and I tend to agree.
- David Andrzejewski
Don't cut the iPhone line like Scoble did! You get people pissed off! http://seesmic.com/v...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Saw a calendar hanging on a mechanic's wall, two guys shaking hands. The caption: "Courtesy is the lubricant of good business."
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Freedom of Speech doesn't mean that it's mandatory that you let every little thought fall out of your brain and into the world via your mouth (or keyboard.) Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Lucretia! Awesome. You should run for President. Freedom of speech also includes freedom to STFU.
- Dave Winer
You say something stupid, it will come back and bite your ass! Maybe you are upset with someone today for something, why not let it go! But if you willing to say it, be ready for the consequences, right or wrong is irrelevant!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I can't believe how great the quality of our trolling is here on FriendFeed!
- Dave Winer
Dave we here to please! I am just going to add a "Jew" to my nic! Igor The Jew Troll. ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Dave: i don't see any trolls here. Oh, yeah, I block the jerks, which probably explains why I don't see them.
- Robert Scoble
Oh Robert the Jerk here! Hey Robert why did you cut the iPhone line? You are too good to wait with other people?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Robert just for curiosity, are you Trolling me? I get to see a lot of you lately! It is like a a Whale Shadow is following me. ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Robert: Thanks. :) As I have only blocked 1, I think that means that I can see every comment. They have all been quality. But I wonder if the message got to the recipients that Dave intended or if they ever saw the great responses. (I know that you said no one in particular.)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Mathew A. Koeneker when you block people based on over people opinions not your experiences with that person what does that make you?
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I saw nice things to those that deserve them, I say mean things to those that deserve those and I say really, really mean things to the people who beg pretty for me too... that stuffs a privilege :)
- Soulhuntre
@andrewbaron That is what the pres does. There's this whole checks and balances system in place.
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I am surprised to not be finding any TTY native iPhone apps. That would be one of the first things I would expect to see.
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