That soon? Not a chance. I reckon early 2010 at the earliest. - Martin Bryant
I reckon early 2010 as well. It doesn't hurt to wish for it though. :) - Kirb
Geez. Since Vista is such a disaster, I wonder if it will be a "free" or really cheap upgrade from that? Would be funny if it costs more to upgrade from XP than Vista. - Michael Sheehan
maybe they did for a little, but according to Google Finance apple's a wee bit less than googles. It could go either way yet. Who knows with this crazy stock market. - Kirb
Some extended use. Even now, I don't think Vista looks bad; it's pretty. But that focus on prettiness causes nagging changes and slowdowns that really get irritating after a while. - Eugene
inaccurate story. read the updated story. It was actually activations that were failing. In fact I tried to activate a copy of Office 2007 and couldn't, so I called them and the lady from "India" said that the servers were down or something. It was somewhat similar to the apple fiasco, but at least you could continue to use the product this time around, whereas with apple you were pretty much bricked. - Kirb
apple needs to get a life and allow partners to oem install Mac OS X on third party hardware. Market share would probably double overnight. - Kirb
They aren't after market share by itself. Seriously. Apple would rather do fewer things right than more things half-cooked, and they still get into binds sometimes - like last weekend. - Eugene
and what's not right about licensing MAC OS X to OEM's? - Kirb
Much less control of the end product. It's a different mindset, Kirb - OS X is one half of a Mac. The other is the box it runs on. Apple is in the business of selling Macs, not OS X, not sexy boxes. If MS controlled both the software and the hardware, they'd have a much easier job. Look at their shift from PlaysForSure (platform) to Zune (whole widget), for instance. - Eugene
Uhhh... this guy doesn't quite have his facts straight. OS X isn't open-source, although many parts of it are. But it *is* a platform open for development, it *does* allow FOSS software. iTunes may well become a Mac application store, but it won't be exclusive. And with his "pretty apps on pretty devices" comment he reveals that he doesn't get the notion of good design. - Eugene
Oh, and Apple actually is a decent OSS citizen. They fund and head up WebKit, which provides a world-class HTML renderer used by some of Apple's competitors (Symbian/Nokia for instance). Apple *owns* CUPS, which is used throughout Linux. Apple's approach is to work heavily on the framework, and then build their own app on top of it (Safari for instance). - Eugene
his point was simply this - "There is a very very bad bias towards Apple and against other companies, and I am calling bullshit on it - because thats what it is" - Kirb
Even if he has to spout BS to prove his point? Yeah, right. - Eugene