Ohayou-gozaimasu. Hajimemashite? Oai-deki-te ureshii-desu. My Japanese is still very poor. I am thankful for such good teachers as you. ^_^
- Ken & Kiyomi
good, maybe you can explain the elements pf sentence too, like what does yoroshiku mean? or how do you compare these two phrases , etc. :)
- Mahmood Padura
Piacere di conoscerti. Un saluto dalla Sardegna
- Isola Virtuale
Hakata Ramen makes pork bone soup. Topping the beni shoga, sesame, and green onion.Milky soup is rich and delicious.This ramen is very very popular.Hakata is Kyushu area.
- Keiko Yamada
I received some absolutely lovely earrings in the mail today, and I am wearing them right now. Thank you so much, Yolanda!!!! *hugs and a kiss* You make beautiful jewelry!
Grievance: Anne Bouey, you are too kind to everyone. I want to know what you really think about Facebook.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Cecily, you carry on the stereotype of the stern librarian who does not approve of shenanigans! Live it up every once in a while.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Friendfeed didn't buy Facebook and declare it *dead* :D
- Adrian
Grievance: Haggis! You are the lamest poker in the world I have ever seen. Pathetic.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Adrian, you couldn't man up and get Anika to take your last name like a true patriarch!
- Louis Gray
Oh man... I lost the armwrestling match that was supposed to decide that. :(
- Adrian
Grievance: Spidra, your avatar looks like Rosie the Riveter meets Archie from Archie Comics. Let's see the real you!
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Anika, you have not told us all the dirt about Mark Krynsky that you really know. It's time you told us. Everything.
- Louis Gray
Jaime Hernandez was very influenced by Archie Comics. I doubt I'll change my avatar, but (and this gets to *my* grievance) I have posted quite a few pics of me in my feed - that so few of my subscribers read, like or comment on. :-P
- Spidra Webster
Grievance: we haven't seen enough of LG bragging that he's whipped someone in Scrabble or Mario Kart. Especially that he's mercilessly beaten his mother.
- Spidra Webster
Grievance: Jandy, if you were truly the ConcertMaven of FF, how come I have #1) never been invited to a concert you attended, and #2) you have not yet organized a concert made up of FriendFeed performers?
- Louis Gray
Spidra, I try to remain humble. I would never bore you with such triviality. :)
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Louis, your most fun posts are only seen by insomniacs.
- Bruce Lewis
Grievance: Bruce, OurDoings has not yet been acquired by FriendFeed or Facebook and is far too obscure, requiring much more visibility.
- Louis Gray
Obscure? The user group http://friendfeed.com/ourdoin... has 13 subscribers. That's gotta be about half the active FriendFeed user base, if the pundits are to be believed.
- Bruce Lewis
Louis, #1) Consider yourself invited to every concert I attend; all you gotta do is come down to LA! #2) I'm waiting for Spidra to move back down here, then I will organize said concert with her in the lead. And you're invited. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Hmm. We can take over the Rose Bowl and have a huge festival. What will we call it? Ffunderstruck?
- Spidra Webster
Grievance: Chris Pirillo is not lifecasting in 3D, so I don't feel like I know him well enough.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Mahendra's sharing preferences on Google Reader and Twitter are dramatically different than the posts he selects for Techmeme while on his shift.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Atul Arora is remarkably mysterious about his full-time work life, and is seen as a full-time link sharer.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Jim Norris complains often about struggles with attracting a date, yet he is cute enough and successful enough that I would be happy to pass his name along to potential partners. :)
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Louis Gray won't stop hitting on me.
- Jim Norris
In your dreams, Norris -- LG only fantasizes of RSS feeds ;)
- Mona Nomura
Grievance: Jim's and Mona's hilarious comments make mine look really lame by comparison.
- Bruce Lewis
Grievance: Not enough things have been declared Dead, Lame or Wrong...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Grievance: I didn't follow the thread format, which probably leveled up LG's grievance. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Grievance: Bret Taylor hasn't publicized the fact Toby Gerhart lost the Heisman Trophy award after weeks of unrealistic hype.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: People post their mugs way too much up in here! #getaroom
- Mona Nomura
Grievance: Mona's everyday drinking behavior makes college students feel like underachievers both in the classroom and at their frat houses or sororities.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: WorldOfHiglet has not posted her novel to FriendFeed as a PDF to download.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: Stephen Mack toils away at TiVo for a decade and hasn't ONCE posted promo codes for lower-cost units. He also won't tell us if there is anything beyond the TiVo XL.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: Johnny Worthington isn't Australian enough. Secondary grievance... the Skype connection to FFunderCats is complete rubbish.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: Thomas Power runs a successful social network and his three children somehow all still managed to become FarmVille addicts.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: I have no housemates to annoy with my loud cackling at this thread.
- Spidra Webster
Grievance: Louis Gray made me snort my tea when I read his comment about my novel...
- WorldofHiglet
Grievance: Akiva and Rochelle Moskovitz go to bed way too early.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: Louis Gray has not been listening to my audiobook podcast
- WorldofHiglet
Grievance: Kol has a last name that nobody can pronounce, and a first name that should be short for something, but nobody has any clue.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
LOL, Louis. Kol, short for Kolin, i.e. Colin. Tregaskes: say like Tree-Gas-Kes. Easy. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Grievance: I never get invited to all the great meatbag parties
- Mo Kargas
Grievance: I never go to bed. Wait...Another Grievance: I'm always late to these parties.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Grievance: All my network is on Twitter instead of FriendFeed. Bastards!
- Justin Whitaker
Grievance: this video won't edit itself.
- WorldofHiglet
Grievance: LG's not on FF right now. Which leads me to believe he could only be sleeping. I'm disillusioned.
- Spidra Webster
Grievance: FriendFeed got hijacked by Facebook - bah! I think they should switch places. I mean, declare FB dead and switch all those accounts over to FF --- now, that would be AWESOME!
- Susan Beebe
Grievance: Not enough chocolate over here, that's cuz I ate most of it already :P *sad santa*
- Susan Beebe
I'm glad you aired out these grievances, Louis, They were starting to stink before, all boxed up like that.
- Stephen Mack
I don't get a Grievance? Woo hoo! I win!
- Kamilah Gill
Grievance: Spidra does not recognize I can be off FriendFeed and still not asleep at the same time. A rarity, but true.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Susan Beebe dutifully listens in to every Gillmor Gang, but has yet to be invited on as a participant.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Kamilah Gill is still doing her daily sketches and has yet to switch to oil-based paints.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Stephen Mack has no resemblance to the line of trucks which bear his name.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Paul Buchheit has not yet singlehandedly made Facebook as cool as FriendFeed or GMail.
- Louis Gray
:P I'm going to! and I have done tons of oil painting. That's how I got my art degree. Ah, that's better. Happy Festivus.
- Kamilah Gill
Grievance: Stuart Miniman won't admit that the vast majority of people who interact with him don't really get the full benefits of Fibre Channel Over Ethernet (FCoE).
- Louis Gray
Greviance.... Apple not letting Google Voice on the iPhone
- Roberto Bonini
Grievance: It is still only Christmas Eve, so I cannot partake in the (completely made up by me) tradition of spending as much of the day as possible in my Christmas pajamas.
- joey
Greviance: Jet lag is screwing up my sleeping patterns.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Grievance: I wish you could all be eating Turkey here with me. Instead I have to type on a keyboard to try to feel close to you.
- Jorge Escobar
Greviance: Transporter tech hasn't been invented. See above.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Roberto, I've got a prototype working. You stand beneath one circular shower curtain and jump into the space with another circular shower curtain. Now all I need is to work on the distance.
- Cristo
Jeremy, perhaps there's a misunderstanding. As a rule, FriendFeeders celebrate Festivus - maybe someone mistook this thread for the Airing of the Grievences ceremony. In any event, I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!
- John Craft
Merry merry Christmas... that is my walk from the bus stop to the office today. (I missed the 1st stop, had to walk 1 extra block.)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Looking back on another year, my second Xmas with the Double Fs, I have come to appreciate the power and complete kickassedness of a lot of you here. For me, putting aside one's personal spiritual persuasions, Xmas is about taking stock of the ones you know and the ones you hold dear. This year has been hard for a lot of us. Some of us have battle personal tragedy. Some of us have battled financial stresses. Some of us have battled illness or disease... some continue that battle and you are in our thoughts. The year kicked off in spectacular fashion with the birth of Audrey Moskovitz. I have enjoyed watching her grow and I have also enjoyed watching the growth of Akiva and Rochelle as they experience some of the things those of us with kids have experienced. I have forged strong friendships. I have built on existing ones. I have lost some as well. The fact that I have a wonderful friend in Mr Josh Haley is a true blessing and a gift that lasts longer than one day. He truly is the Yang...
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- Johnny Worthington
Can't wait to see your Christmas pix, Johnny! Hope y'all have a wonderful day!
- Laura B.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, Johnny! :-D
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Great post Johnny! Here's wishing all the same back to you, and that Bruce the Koala is all shagged out and allows you some peace and quiet during the hols :)
- Patrick Jordan
I fucking LOVE my netbook. Srsly. These things should be standard issue. I'm FFing while wrapping presents and watching all the Christmas stuff I've TiVo'ed for the past three weeks. And LOOK! It even has a webcam!
Sweet, Christmas Story wrapping paper?? That would've gone great with my Christmas Story gift tags.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
from fftogo
Yup! I also have Christmas Story gift bags and gift tags. Got 'em all at Wal-Mart last year. :D I use the stuff sparingly so I can make it last for as many Christmases as possible!
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
You don't have the leg lamp do you? I saw it for sale at our Rite Aid. LOL
- Ken
Netbook - which brand / model? I am looking into buying one, maybe!
- Susan Beebe
Aww they have the lamp at Rite Aid? My friend got one at a calendar stand at the mall. They had 3D leg lamp puzzles at B&N, but no lamps
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
from fftogo
If you shop at Amazon.com they have a few varieties I see, although most here just look like lamps: http://www.amazon.com/s...
- Ken
We actually bought the full-size lamp for my dad for his upcoming retirement. It was shipped to us in a wooden "FRAGILE" crate. Well worth the price we paid. I'm guessing the one at Rite Aid is probably a much less expensive version.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
@Susan: It's an Asus Eee PC...uh model 1005HAB-RBLK001S. Has Win7 and a 250gb HD. :) I'm loving this much more than I my regular laptop and now I'm feeling kind of guilty. But there's something to be said about being tiny and extremely easy to carry around. Maybe if I used my lappy and netty side-by-side for a bit... :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Ho ho ho - from the very crowded mall, a little earlier... now have fire blazing, corn chowder bubbling, it is almost secret Santa time in Montclair. Merry Christmas peeps...
"Forget the fruitcake and nix the nog. In Texas, it wouldn't be Christmas without tamales. While shoppers from Washington to Maine swarmed the malls the day after Thanksgiving, many Texans were lining up to order — or make — Christmas Eve tamales. The corn masa-and-meat bundles — individually wrapped in corn husks and then steamed — are part of the traditional Mexican celebration of las posadas, which commemorates Mary and Joseph's search for shelter before the birth of Jesus. Rhett Rushing, folklorist at San Antonio's Institute of Texan Cultures, said tamales have been traditional Christmas Eve fare for centuries because they're portable, easy to store and inexpensive to make for large gatherings."
- Michelle Martinez
from Bookmarklet
"Through the years, the preparation of the labor-intensive food became a social event, called a tamalada, as womenfolk from ranches across Mexico and what's now the American Southwest gathered to prepare the Christmas Eve feast. "By the time the day was over and the tamales were made, the family would be caught up, the arguments resolved, differences aired," Rushing said. "It wasn't...
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- Michelle Martinez
I miss my ex MIL's tamales this time of year. *sniff sniff*
- Call me Bronco
I wouldn't be surprised if people adopted it for its aggregation and search features only. You'll see a lot of people pulling in data but not participating.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Agreed. Just yesterday my boss was asking "what is lifestreaming". He's interested. And Akiva, that comment was valuable just for the use of the word 'aggregation'. I'll pull it for "use that word in a sentence" the next time I use "aggregation" :) (sometimes tired of explaining its meaning...but only sometimes, usually patient)
- Melanie Reed
Yeah, it really shines in that way. FF offers superior aggregation and very natural conversation, for those who want it. I still find a dedicated RSS client more efficient for the way I work (I use Fever). But it's close, and would meet the needs of a lot of people. FF is a great hub to tie together your other SM outposts.
- Chris Baskind
I like his method - come up with 20 or so predictions, and if one hits everyone says "Scoble was right!". Its been a great conversation tool, but an even better one for aggregation. But until more people understand what this is, and how useful it can be, it will remain shy of mainstream (for this purpose) outside of the geek crowd.
- jcunwired
Chris, Amen! "FF is a great hub to tie together your other SM outposts"
- Melanie Reed
I'm usually the last one to say "Scoble is right!" Here, though, I think he's correct. SM is getting complicated, if you use more than one service. FF helps tie them together. There are other ways, but this remains a pretty elegant solution.
- Chris Baskind
I love FriendFeed and truly hope Scoble's right!!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Robert said that? *checks date* Oh yes, I suppose it was about time to swing back to FF being great again...#tryingnottobeahumbug #failing#notcaring
- WorldofHiglet
Actually, I remember Robert ranting that FF was going to die because it wouldn't be actively developed anymore. It looks to me as if they might use FF to test features that might find their way to Facebook. I replied that the shovel hasn't changed much in the past few years, and people still use it -- because it works. It's well-suited to the job. So here I am, giving FF a whirl again....
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- Chris Baskind
"The Slalom is incredible -- beautiful molded plywood, full-pivot steering, slippery plastic runners, and stainless steel hardware. This thing is fast and maneuverable! Made with 5/8" thick marine-grade waterproof molded plywood, the entire front section of the Slalom pivots. The sled's wide stance makes it very stable and gives it excellent flotation in powder snow. On hardpack, the Slalom slides along on specialized plastic runners for top speed and control. The beechwood surface is protected by four coats of marine-grade finish. We use only stainless-steel hardware, and an extra-long pull rope."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
Heather just received the best gift ever, from the US government. Scott's permanent resident card (which is not, for the record, actually green) just arrived. I get to keep him!!! :-D.
Few things make my eyes glaze over like shopping for cameras. Wanted primarily for shooting for Ustream/ YouTube vids. Ugh... - http://www.amazon.com/Camcord...
I thought it was cutely self-referential and definitely a welcome aside for a movie that otherwise takes itself a little too seriously.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The part that I hated was when they actually had lines about 'terror'. I mean, c'mon. Cameron might as well have interrupted the movie with a PSA.
- Akiva Moskovitz
"Unobtanium" is an apologetic wink to hard-sci-fi snobs.
- Christopher A Carr
I probably should have found it kind of cute or tongue in cheek. But really it was just one of the first (of many) things to totally take me out of the movie.
- Joe Pierce
Wasn't that in that silly "The Core" movie?
- Yolanda
Yolanda, that was the other film in the link i posted, so yes it was apprently, although i never watched the film properly, even though film4 keeps repeating it! i agree, it wasnt all that great a film!
- Halil
I just saw and liked the movie. For me unobtanium was take-it-or-leave, but the war/terror allusions, nay, PSAs (++Akiva) were eyeroll jazzercise inducing.
- Micah Wittman
I never said the movie wasn't pretty. It really is. But I'm not willing to give the movie a pass just based off of that. The 3D earns it nothing in my book, the movie is only going to be viewed in that kind of 3D for a few months, after that it'll have to hold up in 2D for the rest of it's existence. Its hard to tell, but I really didn't hate Avatar. I was disappointed by it, and I think it is getting too much of a pass by people. But it was ok.
- Joe Pierce
the story's not good, and I judge people who give it a pass. It's insane that you can have a 2 hour and 40 minute movie with so few details about anything related to the plot or characters. the only character with any depth at all is jake, and he doesn't have a lot.
- Richard Lawler
it was pretty much a videogame story, without the game.
- Richard Lawler
Wait a second, are you all saying that you've never enjoyed a single movie just on its visuals or its action? Every movie you've ever watched that is entertaining had a deep, complex plot? To me personally, I basically agree with echostreamer: it's not really about "giving the story a pass," it's about the story doing its job, which in this case was to get you from one groundbreaking visual tapestry to the next. I think it did it well enough that I didn't mind it (I chuckled at unobtainium, btw).
- Chieze Okoye
A movie doesn't have to be deep and complex. It does have to make sense and explain itself, Avatar doesn't. You are giving it a pass because the story didn't do its job. It never gave any of the surrounding characters any depth or any motivation for their actions. Even in an action movie, that's unacceptable.
- Richard Lawler
What? This is the far future when humans have developed great technology but have also ravaged Earth. One company is searching for <insert-resource-name> which leads them to <planet-where-resource-exists> and conflict with the native population of <insert-race-name>, which happens to live on top of a huge store of <insert-resource-name>. Motivation of company: Money/<resource>....
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- Chieze Okoye
I mean yes, the secondary characters are all more properly called caricatures, but to say that they didn't have any motivation is a bit much as they all had quite clear and simple motivations that were easily understood. Not unlike almost every other action movie ever made.
- Chieze Okoye
Chieze - That covers absolutely zero bases. You know what you didn't mention in your breakdown? A single individual character. you know why you didn't? Because none of them have any identifying characteristics, you can't tell them from each other. Every good action movie has more characters that are developed better. Avatar is not a good action movie.
- Richard Lawler
The company didn't go on a suicide revenge mission at the end, the barrel chested war caricature did. Indigenous race didn't fall in love with an alien, the one character did. Pilot B didn't go up against an entire army to help some alien race, the one character did. Too bad we never got to know any of them at all.
- Richard Lawler
But like, the Bourne Trilogy had zero memorable characters besides Bourne himself but I would call that an excellent series of action movies. This is just the first example off of the top of my head. I didn't mention any specific characters in my overview because the text would have gotten too long and I was just trying to give an explanatory gist.
- Chieze Okoye
Bourne Trilogy sucked, the books weren't any good and the movies were empty shells. I said good action movies. and every bourne flick I saw had at least two or three better developed characters more than avatar.
- Richard Lawler
I basically disagree with everything you said there (except the part about the books not being any good). I guess we won't see eye-to-eye on this one.
- Chieze Okoye
Good action movies are things like Die Hard, Aliens, Indiana Jones. In those flicks individual characters have their own identity and motivation, because they're well written. Avatar is a two hour 40 minute special fx ramble with no depth to anyone except Jake Sully.
- Richard Lawler
Wow, if you thought only Jake Sully had depth, you weren't watching the movie close enough.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think everyone saying this movie sucks because it's storyline isn't "complex" are just jumping on a bandwagon and being contrary for contrarian sake. The story is simple, true. The characters that count are believable and the story does what it needs to do. It gets you from point a to b to c in the visual storyline. What I don't see people talking about is how successfully Cameron is...
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- veo
unobtainium is from Rocky and Bullwinkle ;)
- WarLord
Also, unobtainum was kind of dumb but it's been used in countless sci-fi stories over the past 100 years. get over it.
- veo
So...I'm expected to take a mediocre plot in an "epic" film because it "does what it needs to?" I'm the douchebag or expecting a story to try to do something more than just the bare minimum that is required? .. I could also point out that saying people whose opinions differ from yours are just stating them to be contrary and to jump on a bandwagon is a really douchebaggy statement.
- Joe Pierce
The movie was in development how many years and it still had little to no story? I was excited a few years back, but now all it can do it disappoint. I am waiting for someone to say something that would lead me to believe otherwise.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Amber, Avatar is pretty (can't say I didn't try).
- jbrotherlove
Amber, it's REALLY pretty. I think that honestly you're best just spending the $10 now to see it in 3D in theaters because that experience is not really replicable anywhere else.
- Chieze Okoye
It's really pretty outside and that is free, and the story is better.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
It HAS a story, and it tells the story it's got well. It's just that the story's been told a thousand times before, and it does very little new with the formula. Once you take away the visuals and 3D, you're left with a pretty routine oppressed-people-with-an-unlikely-savior story. I still think it was worth watching in 3D because the technology is really amazing, but the claims of...
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- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Jandy is smart, and a less grumpy person than me. Listen to her.
- Joe Pierce
lol. It helps that I spent a good portion of the day on Monday discussing the film on Row Three - what I just said is pretty much the short version of a dozen or so very long comments over there.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I kept looking for a place to jump in over there, but most of what I had to say was already getting said and the same arguments were being brought up against it. I didn't think jumping in just to say "Nuh-uh!!!" would have been very effective.
- Joe Pierce
I can wait for the movie that uses the stepping stone. I'm all CGIed out and if that is all that it has going for it, I'll pass.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Hee! Yeah, once the guys get going over there, it can be tough to jump in. The funny thing is, that thread is still going (nearly up to 200 comments now) but no one's been talking about Avatar for a long time.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Amber, if it helps. As much bitching as I've done over the movie. I would still recommend seeing it t least once. Just don't expect it to be as epic as all that.
- Joe Pierce
Titanic could have been a decent movie if about an hour of the useless crap had been taken out.
- Joe Pierce
Okay, bad analogy. Some people just aren't as into the technical side of movies or cinematic milestones. Nothing wrong with that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I can respect all the money they spent making it, and all the people that got paid to make the thing look as real as possible. But I'm not going to spend money on it.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Look, every movie fails if you drill down on it hard enough and long enough. The endeavor is not unlike constructing a modern building - in this case a sky-scraper. I love a 'perfect' character home too, but why not admire each craft work for what it is?! Ok. Got that out of my system.
- Micah Wittman
Every Yingtanium deserves a Yangtanium :)
- Micah Wittman
Micah, that's exactly what I'm saying (3 comments up). Also, Amber, I think that you are selling this quite short when you say "it's pretty outside and free and has a better story." I'm not disagreeing with you exactly, but this movie is honestly visually spectacular. It's not just that it's a "CGI-fest." Yes it's CGI heavy, but this is really the first movie that I've seen with this...
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- Chieze Okoye
I've got a good analogy, I think. Saying that Avatar is just CGI is like saying that these are just pencil drawings or that the first one is just a tiger: http://friendfeed.com/mikerob... (well, assuming they are real, heh) Technically true, but you'd be completely missing the point.
- Chieze Okoye
lol, this made me laugh. "I judge people who give this a pass." LOL! It's a movie! ahahahahahahahahaha... Like it, don't like it, disappointed that JC didn't change the world, impressed that he seemed to seamlessly weave the 3D throughout the movie, whatever. I liked it, I had fun, and I'm pretty sure we'll own it at some point, even if the husband hmphed at the unobtainium and the...
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- Bette Cooper
I can't believe I wasted the no energy it took to make a mental note that you have crap taste in movies and don't pay attention to things like story or dialogue, I'll go consider my life's path and where it went wrong now. Or I won't.
- Richard Lawler
It very clearly doesn't tell it's story well. Anyone who actually paid attention to what happened in the movie will notice there's no attention given to plot elements like why the evil villain would do any of the things he did at the end of the movie. What Na'vi and human interactions were like before jake got there. The aliens have no individual characters at all. After betraying his...
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- Richard Lawler
I call bullshit on this movie and the studios that let it through. No excuse to spend $X million dollars on a bad story that took X years to make and push X new technology to introduce us to something that someone else will take and make good. If you have that length of time to polish it, polish the damn story too! No excuse for bad writing if you've got 4 damn years to make the movie! I won't see it, I don't care what it looks like. If I want to see something amazing, I'll drive to the mountains.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Oh un-OBTAIN-ium! I get it! That's clever.
- s t e v e
I call this movie artwork. Its a shame that we don't have silent films anymore so people would STFU about the plot and look at the movie for what it is; a stunning 2.5 hour moving work of art. Remove the words (leave the score) and people might stop freaking out about characters and start paying attention to the pure artistry in the visuals, which is really what the movie is about.
- EricaJoy
That was pretty bad, it distracted me from enjoying the shiny every time they mentioned it. Thankfully that was not often.
- Lo
I second EricaJoy's comment. It's a shame that people need to find a negative in a (visiually) nicely made movie.
- liladreams
I'm really enjoying how riled up Richard is over this. And I fully agree with him: of all things to take a stand on in life, Avatar's script is definitely where one of refined taste should draw the line. I mean really. How could anyone possibly have an alternative and opposing viewpoint? It's preposterous!
- Akiva Moskovitz
As I mentioned previously, JRR Tolkein took 12 years to write LOTR. That was worth it. James Cameron took 15 years to write Avatar. You can do the math.
- Melanie Reed
Question, Did Richard take a principled stand on Star Wars Episodes 1 to 3??
- Roberto Bonini
Do I need to? I think there's a 70 minute review on youtube that covers all the points necessary. Some would do well to apply its lessons to this movie. (tell me something about the characters that isn't how they look or what their job is)
- Richard Lawler
I havent seen the movie yet Richard. But if its as bad as Star Wars for plot.....
- Roberto Bonini
It's better than star wars in that it has a main character and he has some (not much, but some depth to him. the prequels, especially TPM, lack that entirely. If you're interested in the effects it's worth seeing once, but leave your brain at the door.
- Richard Lawler
Richard, that YouTube review is awesome but I can easily take the character challenge with Avatar. Even the minor characters in Avatar have more clear, personal definition than the characters in Star Wars (with the exception of Chacon who might as well have been a flight computer). Of course, that might be more derogatory toward Star Wars than it is complimentary toward Avatar; I mean, when you've set the bar so bloody low...
- Akiva Moskovitz
The question really is: Can Avatar be considered opera? A simplistic plot can be justified if it lends itself to the grand themes of mythos and opera. Star Wars does that. Can you justify that Avatar does the same?
- Melanie Reed
I'd have to see it more than once to even consider such a question.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva - beyond the main guy? For example, Grace - she went to stanford and.... what brought her to pandora? what happened, who decided to close the school and/or why? the company brought her to pandora, what was the reasoning at that time? is she (or any of the other scientists) leaving anything behind on earth when they side with the na'vi?
- Richard Lawler
Absolutely. I would put Avatar on par with movies like SW: A New Hope, 2001, etc. I would recommend watching the episode of Totally Rad Show where they review Avatar. They pretty much say everything I think about the movie. It's just an amazing film. http://revision3.com/trs...
- Jason Huebel
It's ironic that the only character that is memorable in the Bourne Trilogy is the main character, seeing as how it's about guy trying to figure out his identity.
- Andy Bakun
from Android
Richard, that was all explained. She's a botanical expert, the entire planet is full of dangerous flora; that's an easy one. They closed the school when it was made clear that no matter how much they tried to 'civilize' the Na'Vi, it didn't stop them from still attacking the miners so it was seen as a waste of money and time. And it's stated almost immediately before she appears on the...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
Another comparison (defining where to place this film in genre): Compare Avatar and Tron. What do they have in common, each for its day.
- Melanie Reed
I dunno, Avatar is in it's own league, IMO. It's a space opera, but you really can't directly compare it to any other film.
- Jason Huebel
when did it say when they closed the school? They said "we tried building them a school" they never said when it was closed or why. In fact, they never even actually showed the na'vi attacking the miners, only talked about it.and ok, she hates people, but what about the other scientists on pandora? they all flip sides real quick, no family for any of them?
- Richard Lawler
Also, Richard, I think what you're missing here is that this isn't an ensemble movie. It isn't M*A*S*H. It's a science fiction action adventure movie. Deep, Altman-like examination of character isn't required to move the plot forward. Any character development is a side effect of the action and not the other way around. And I repeat, it's a sci-fi action adventure movie. Did you get as...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
How is it operatic? Is it dealing with large themes: Good vs. Evil. (or are those relative and somewhat gray based on perspective?) Are those clearly defined? Are there three acts (yet)?
- Melanie Reed
Does the protagonist clearly know what to do or is he conflicted in the end?
- Melanie Reed
Akiva - I don't need to know where he went to college, I do need to know why the characters make the decisions they make. It's never explained why Grace left the na'vi at first and why they're apparently so reluctant to accept her back. None of the na'vi have any individual reactions at all. Evil Guy has no reason to be evil after the battle is clearly lost. He's not fighting for his life, he just goes on a suicidal rampage for no reason. It goes on and on.
- Richard Lawler
@Melanie, there is definitely an internal conflict for both main characters. There is also an obvious story of good vs. evil. (BTW, have you seen it yet?)
- Jason Huebel
How is neytiri a main character? We never see her except when she's interacting with jake.
- Richard Lawler
You're kidding right? Did you see the same movie I did?
- Jason Huebel
Yeah, and Alice in Wonderland is a stupid story because you never see any characters except when they're interacting with Alice. Oy vey already.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Now you're lying akiva. I didn't say anything like that. But you wouldn't call them main characters now would you. that was my point.
- Richard Lawler
Jason, let me know the part when neytiri talked to anyone without jake present. The movie has one main character.
- Richard Lawler
I'm done. I don't have any interest in getting into an argument today. I'm on vacation.
- Jason Huebel
Richard, you do realize that this movie is told entirely through the eyes of Jake Sully, don't you? That's why we rarely see anyone that isn't in the room with him. Hell, the movie tells us that with its opening and closing shots. One eye in the beginning symbolizes a limited view of the world; two eyes at the end reflecting a fuller (but probably not complete) view of the world. In fact, are there ANY scenes without him involved (even if off-camera)?
- Akiva Moskovitz
So does the movie have one main character or two.
- Richard Lawler
I thought you left jason, if you're still around, you can surely describe how neytiri meets the criteria for a main character in any way. also, we see a lot of things that Jake doesn't see. But of course, I apparently didn't watch the movie.
- Richard Lawler
It matters how you define a main character, Richard. For me, a main character is essential to the core of the plot and usually has a lot of screen time. By that definition, Sully, Neytiri, and Guaritch are all main characters. I don't think a character loses 'main' status simply because it doesn't have 'alone time' on-screen. And I've seen some movies where the two main characters never...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
@Melanie, so it's a children's book? I would imagine that would mean it's a bit watered down compared to the movie. I was hoping for an adult novel. Although I would imagine since this has always been a movie concept first, there might not be one.
- Jason Huebel
Also, I had asked if there were any scenes in which he wasn't involved, not things that he didn't see.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sometimes when a story is told over and over again with no variation, it's because the story is important and most people aren't listening. My guess is that this same story will continue to be told until the underlying problems which draw storytellers to it are addressed. (just a random thought)
- Lo
That's weird, because I always thought the main character was the one who experienced things for the audience. Guaritch and Neytiri never have any experiences in the movie except in relation to their affect on jake. That's why he's the main character. The world revolves around him and his experiences
- Richard Lawler
Akiva - what you actually said was "told entirely through the eyes of Jake Sully" I inferred you meant saw since you said his eyes and that's what they're usually used for.
- Richard Lawler
I think the problem does need to be addressed, I have not yet mated for life with a ten foot blue alien version of zoe saldana. This is an underlying problem that needs to be rectified.
- Richard Lawler
@Jason an interesting comment by the Author through a marketing choice, wouldn't you agree?
- Melanie Reed
Richard, I meant that more metaphorically. Sully's the Frodo of Avatar; he's the device used to introduce us to the world. And, you're right, the audience is only given one main character to really bond with (although we can empathize with Neytiri and have antipathy toward Guaritch). I also agree that the script's weak but, ultimately, I feel the value of the movie is greater than the sum of its parts.
- Akiva Moskovitz
And about your last comment, Richard, Cameron was on The Tonight Show and joking how he had a team dedicated specifically to Neytiri's butt and that it took them nine months to perfect it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Nine months well spent, clearly. It's impossible for me to empathize with neytiri because other than her inexplicable love for jake (he betrays her and is directly responsible for the destruction of her home and death of her father by his inaction of not telling them what's coming and action of giving info to quaritch, this is reason for a quittal on the planet i'm from) I know nothing...
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- Richard Lawler
Richard, I think you're on to something. :)
- Melanie Reed
I guess this is testament to both Saldana's acting ability and the technical artistry of the film because I got a lot more out of Neytiri than what I suppose was explicit in the script. And, well, love is inexplicable anyway but her attraction to him was two-fold: first, he was different than anyone she had ever met before which made him a 'rebellious bad boy' and that he was tirelessly...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
I don't see how his willingness to face death is notable, every na'vi we ever see has done exactly the same thing. To her, he, should be nothing special, and yet he gets three second chances at life when should be killed immediately before he ever does anything remarkable.
- Richard Lawler
and how much does it suck to be tsu tey, you not only lose your girl to a cripple, you only get to be chief for like 5 minutes before dying in a battle planned by the same guy who took your girl and you'd have been better off killing on sight.
- Richard Lawler
That's true but she knows he's not Na'Vi. He's human and STILL willing to die for the Na'Vi. Furthermore, she follows him into battle because of his legendary feat but I don't think she actually truly reconnects with him until she sees him as who he really is for the first time, as a tiny, delicate, little human.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Hah, yeah. That guy gets the shit end of the stick from scene one.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Anyway, I think a lot of your points are good, Richard, even if I don't agree with them. I clearly got a lot more satisfaction out of the script than you did. Of course, I went in with low expectations and, I suppose, ended up doing most of the heavy lifting in the end. But I'm all right with that. I really liked the movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it again. Would I watch it again without the IMAX 3D, though? Probably not. So I suppose that says a lot, too.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I get that, but it doesn't make sense to me, he doesn't really have a lot of options. If he hadn't gone w/ the navi plan from jump, they were gonna kill him anyway right then, his life's been hanging in the balance for a while and she wasn't particularly impressed the first time.
- Richard Lawler
Plus, through their unreasonably deep understanding of avatar technology, she knows he isn't really risking his life, he's a "dreamwalker."
- Richard Lawler
@Richard: Yes, and for me my inability to commune psychically (or whatever) with plants and have hot tree-of-souls sex is also a problem that needs urgent attention :D
- Lo
Richard, a key point in whether something is operatic. Does Sully really have to put his life at risk as say even Neo does in The Matrix?
- Melanie Reed
Once he turns his back and they dropship the avatar beds all up in na'vi territory late in the film, yes. But I'm troubled by that because really, what did he have to lose, his human body sucked (though fixable) and his family was dead, of course he falls in love with being a na'vi. The one thing I found satisfactory about the story was the explanation of how he came to be in the avatar program at all.
- Richard Lawler
Again Richard, I think you are on to something. There has to be a sacrifice more important than what is supplied here for a true hero to confront. The stakes must be incredibly high. Frodo has this. Neo has this to an extent(He begins a pattern of where we are beginning to lose this clear line in stories). Also, if memory serves, Dances With Wolves never overtly or even really...
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- Melanie Reed
It's hard to say. After he destroys the cameras, Jake still isn't fighting the army yet. It's only after they realize what happened and lock him up that he takes the fight to them, and at that point, any opportunity to get his legs back and live the human life he wants is probably long gone.
- Richard Lawler
Tree is done. I didn't use half the lights or ornaments I have, but the Hello Kitty and Star Wars ones are on there. I'm actually kind of excited to see the kid's reaction in the morning. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
It's kind of weird looking without the blue lights and icicles, but considering we got this done in a couple of hours vs. the many, many hours when I do it with the kids, it's fine. I'm sure they won't miss the smaller details.
- Admiral Anika
from Bookmarklet
That's a fine looking tree! Well done!
- Anne Bouey
Thanks and Adrian is still alive so we all win!
- Admiral Anika
Yeah, I was getting worried for him. :P
- Anne Bouey
One of these days, I'm going to figure out how to make that star stay straight. I usually spend so much time making sure the rest of the tree doesn't offend me, that by the time I get the star, I'm done.
- Admiral Anika
The kids LOVE the tree. When I came out this morning, they said, "Look! Someone left a tree!" Alton is convinced Santa did it. Ilia's not so sure. :)
- Admiral Anika
That makes all your work last night worthwhile! How awesome!
- Anne Bouey
That's nice...but nobody asked what you prefer and it's pretty rude to say something like that on a thread when someone is obviously on vacation in Jamaica.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Glad you weren't on the plane crash in Jamaica. Looks fun!
- Robert Scoble
Hey, What do you know. I was in your neck of the woods last week. In the Domenican Republic. Always wanted to get to Jamaica. While you're there, check out the Olympic Bobsled team :)
- Roberto Bonini
Sorry for biting your head off, Jeunelle. Your comment rubbed me the wrong way and I went off. My apologies.
- Alex Scoble
Wow. I own property in Negril, believe it or not. My uncle used to live there and left it to my brother and me. I've been there many times. What hotel are you staying at?
- Dave Winer
Dave, he said the name of the hotel in the comment directly above yours. :)
- Rochelle
Rochelle, oops. I know that place. The locals make fun of the white people running around naked. They disapprove. :-)
- Dave Winer
I'm a big believer in karma. If it hadn't been for the love and support of my friends (including many of you here) I wouldn't have made it through this year. Recently things have turned around for me, so I'm "paying it forward" to another friend who has had a rough year.
My friend Barry was on his bicycle when he was hit by a truck a few months back. Luckily he only hurt his ankle, but his bicycle was trashed; his only mode of transportation. I just called and told him that for Christmas this year I'm going to buy him a new bike.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Aww, thanks all. :D My friends are my family, and it hurts when I can't help them out. Right now I can, so it's the least I could do. I mean damn, the poor guy got hit by a truck! He's got a lawsuit against them but who knows how long that could take, and he needs a bike. After all the good karma I've gotten lately, it's time to pass it along to someone else in need.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Aww, I just watched last week and totally wanted to watch it again, but I didn't know it was on. I'm too lazy to find my DVD.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
from fftogo
"I first fell in love with Indian food a few years ago after being heavily coaxed by my two more "adventurous-with-foods" friends. I am very picky about trying new foods, especially when the food looks unfamiliar to me or is composed of colors I'm not accustomed to seeing on my plate (e.g., the loud red color on tandoori chicken). After trying tandoori chicken, though, I opened myself to trying CTM and fell in love with this dish instantly."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Chicken Tikka Masala is one of the most popular dishes in the UK. It's also supposed to have been invented in the UK by a chef in an Indian Restaurant in Scotland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Ian May
That's really, really dark Chicken Tikka Masala.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I thought it was the Gobi Desert. Aloo is potato so I'm assuming 'gobi' is cauliflower.
- Akiva Moskovitz
GOD DARN IT. I may have to order from Mehak today.
- Spidra Webster
Oh, I get your meaning now. I was thinking aloo = potato; Gobi = desert. Yours makes more sense.
- Bren -- feeling merry
from iPhone
I just got Tandoori Chicken, Aloo Gobi and Chicken Korma. Plus extra papadum. And it's YOUR fault, Derrick...ALL YOUR FAULT!
- Bruce Lewis
Chicken Korma is okay, but personally I think goat korma is superior. SOOOOOOO delicious. Think I may have to swing by the Indian grocery store on my way home from work.
- Jason Huebel
Pretty much anything with goat is good, IMO. I actually prefer goat over beef.
- Jason Huebel
The reason that Chicken Tikka Masala looks brown is that they used a can of crushed tomatoes instead of tomato sauce in that recipe. Most Chicken Tikka Masala recipes call for tomato sauce for a creamy consistency.
- Adrian
Goat is the most commonly eaten meat in the world
- Ian May
I had some on Sunday and it was pretty good. I'm a huuuuuge fan of CTM. My favorite place in LA (and I've tried quite a few) is Al Noor in Lawndale http://www.yelp.com/biz...
- Mark Krynsky
That's not a chicken tikka massala, it's not even red! England is the home of the Curry, and here in the midlands we've got some badass curry places, sadly as with most ethnic foods the real deal (homemade) is always superior
- Toby Graham
from iPhone
The masala sauce I buy in stores is red and yummy. The shrimp masala I buy at Indian restaurants is also red and yummy.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Weird. I figured that it'd be India and/or Thailand that would be the 'home of the Curry' and not England.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Lo! We are having Aloo Gobi and Roti for dinner tonight, in about 35mins! ;)
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
Got curry chips at The Pub last week. Sadly, I will probably be forced to go get Indian food tonight; I don't think I even live near an Indian restaurant anymore.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Как вкусно выглядит. Это рис такой желтый?
- Ольга Сукачева
@Toby , you have real balls to say "England is the home of the Curry " !! - Why do really think the home of Curries in England ?? The home of Steakpies is England. .and the home for Curries in India !!
- Peter Dawson