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Cristo
What is it?
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I figured you smart guys would be on top of this one. - Cristo
Nope, FF is not where the smarts is. - Cristo
Got a higher res image? pretty blurry - Jason Wehmhoener
No. - Cristo
Magna Carta - Kevin Mohr
What does Kevin win Cristo ? - Eric Logan
Oh! OK, this one is a little easier to read: http://brianakira.files.wordpress.com/2009... - Jason Wehmhoener
I will admit that I kinda cheated, but it was smart cheating ... - Kevin Mohr
I guess there were enough bits in there to find a match by similarity... - Jason Wehmhoener
What's amusing are the anime results in an image search for "magna carta" - Jason Wehmhoener
Kevin, cool. - Cristo
Eric, Kevin gets me to subscribe to him. ;) - Cristo
Thanks Cristo! - Kevin Mohr
LANjackal
My Droid experience thread
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First of all, I love it :) - LANjackal from IM
Weight: solidly built, but dense. Smaller than it looks in pictures - LANjackal from IM
Physical Keyboard: I don't know what reviewers were complaining about, this is actually pretty damn good. The only part that's not so great is the optional protective hard shell makes the top row of keys a bit hard to press because it consumes the "overflow" space that your fingers would normally have - LANjackal from IM
On screen keyboard: OK, but there's not much reason to use it - LANjackal from IM
Battery life: hard to say yet - LANjackal from IM
The only major niggle I have with the Droid is that so far I can't figure out how to make it vibrate to notify me of incoming SMS when the handset is locked and the ring volume is silenced. If I don't figure that out I'm gonna miss a LOT of text messages at work, which is not good :/ - LANjackal from IM
All charged up! Despair's (my Droid's Bluetooth name) first night on the town. He's already texted one girl and called another from his Contacts, which is fully integrated with my Facebook account (profile, pics, email addresses, phone numbers). This last part is absolutely amazing. Wish us well, I'll tell you more tomorrow when we embark on a 16h bar crawl (no joke) - LANjackal
WOW. I have never set a custom ringtone this easily in my life. 1)Drag and drop song into phone from Windows Explorer (where it shows up as removable disk). 2)Go to Music App, which automagically finds ALL songs on the phone, regardless of location 3)Select track 4)Select "Set as ringtone". DONE. A-mazing, especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?) - LANjackal
"...especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?)" They would had to have fucked with normal Android functionality. Have you tried, "Ringdroid," I think it's called? -- for editing audio on the handset. Perhaps there's something better now. - Christopher A Carr
Idk about that, don't need audio editing capability - LANjackal from Android
Google Navigation: perfection. Period. Integrates with browser which integrates with calendar so I can nav my way directly to GCal event locations - LANjackal from Android
My buddy BR just picked one up himself. Verdict: fucking awesome - LANjackal from Android
Wi-Fi: works awesome. Using it @ a pool hall now - LANjackal from Android
*WANT*! - Travis Koger
Good hardware, presently. I would flash a fancier ROM. - Christopher A Carr
I'm not going to throw down money until there is a 1 GhZ device. Soon. In 1/2 years, people who have this phone are going to feel silly. - Christopher A Carr
... or we'll just get a new one? Handsets are salable dude. - LANjackal
Speed: (because Chris Carr brought it up). The Droid is plenty fast. Speed is not an issue. - LANjackal
Battery Life: Very good, but I'd bring my charger if I were going out of town for a weekend (I always do that anyway, so I don't consider than an issue) - LANjackal
Browser: Faaaast. I don't miss the pinch multitouch capability reviewers have been bemoaning the lack of, since the high resolution means that 95% of pages are readable as is in the first place, and there's a handy zoom-in/zoom-out icon that pops up at the lower right of the screen - LANjackal
UNPLEASANT SURPRISE: That charging cable that you think is a mini-USB cable? It's NOT. I don't WTF the port on the side of the Droid is, but it won't accept any other cable than the one that shipped with the device. Disappointing, but not a dealbreaker IMO - LANjackal
Fancier ROM idea: If you wanna go for it, sure. However, my phone is one of those device (like my car) that I expect to just WORK, 100% of the time. Don't wanna risk bricking it, but if you wanna do that go right ahead. - LANjackal
Contact management: This is simply the best implementation thereof you will ever come across, not only on phones but on ANY device. Full syncing of Google Contacts and your Facebook friends (all relevant fields, even job titles and pics from Facebook profiles), automatic duplicate entry handling, with search, email ... you name it. This is one thing the Droid beats everything else at. No competition. - LANjackal
Camera: It's not the best, but it'll do. Besides, cameras like those are merciful to those who aren't naturally photogenic like me. - LANjackal
Audio quality: Angelic. I know this sounds like an overstatement, but wait till you hear it. The audio on this device is just stunning. Everything else you've ever heard will sound like static afterwards in comparison - LANjackal
Does it use a regular audio connector, or a custom one like the older Android phones? - Glen Campbell from iPod
Regular connector - LANjackal from IM
Visual Voicemail is great, but if you have an active Wi-Fi connection it won't be able to sync. Which it tells you nicely. Perhaps Google Voice fixes that problem. Beginning to wish I had a GV account now. Oh well. Invite, anyone? - LANjackal
I still can't get over the monthly fee for visual voicemail. Sigh. - Glen Campbell
That's only if you have a 450min plan. The one I have has VVM rolled in... I think. Billing info isn't very clear on that, I'll see what my first new bill looks like when it comes - LANjackal from IM
VZW has the weird setup where feature prices vary BOTH by plan AND phone. For example, VZ Navigator is free on some phones but paid on others. I *think* Visual Voicemail's included with the data plan when you get a Droid - LANjackal
More on battery life: Charging takes a while (1.5h from 50% to full). Definitely enough for overnight, but people who rely on fast charge times will be in for a surprise. I'm really anal about charging, so I don't find this an issue. Less "responsible" users (read: college girls) whose phones are permanently "about to die" will run into trouble :P - LANjackal
Hmmm, not true mini-USB, slight disappointment. How loud are the ringtones and the call itself? Do you think the phone will feel weird with an extended battery? Do you experience any lag that has been reported in apps? Can't wait to have in hand next week! - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lan: You want a GV invite? Think I still have one or tww. How do you like Stanford pounding the shit out of Oregon? Wow. - Christopher A Carr
Why do you say it's not true mini-USB? That contradicts what I've been told by a Googler who's been using the phone since August. - Glen Campbell
It may be a smaller USB connector than the "mini" one I'm used to. Phone ringtones are LOUD. So is the call volume. I don't know any phone that doesn't feel weird with an extended battery. - LANjackal from IM
Lag: bear in mind that you're dealing with a mini-computer that happens to be able to make calls, not a phone in the traditional sense. As with a PC, the more apps you run, the more lag you may notice (1 -2s sometimes, "missed" touches). In normal operation with mission critical apps though, there is no lag. I'd STRONGLY suggest Taskiller though, as the OS never seems to really kill... more... - LANjackal from IM
Battery Life Report: During a drinking marathon today filled with heavy use of web browsing, FB app friend adding, taking (and uploading) pics, texting, email checking, calling, hopping on and off free Wi-Fi, etc. the Droid lasted *drumroooooooollllll* 11 HOURS. Terrible for a phone, but pretty good for what's essentially a pocket computer. Word to the wise: the car charging kit? Get it. An extra USB cable for charging at work is a pretty good call too - LANjackal
Correction about the USB connector. It's a micro-B one, NOT a min-B one, which is why the other cable I had wasn't working. So yes, it IS a standard USB cable. Sorry to have mislead anyone - LANjackal
Nice feature: automagical backlighting that turns on and off in response to ambient light (even when going through shadows) - LANjackal
Camera: I take back what I said about it earlier. This is pretty much the BEST party camera ever. Reviewers who complained about the pic quality were simply taking the wrong pics. No one uses smartphones to take pics of flowers idiots. They use 'em to take pics at parties. The important thing is how skin tone and color come out WITHOUT being too revealing (trust me, no one wants to see... more... - LANjackal
Battery life: so my buddy BR who got one is complaining about the battery life also. And his phone was almost always dead BEFORE the Droid, so I can only imagine what the situation is like now - LANjackal
Another niggle: No character count for text message composition - LANjackal
UPDATE: OTA update will fix the SMS character count problem (exactly how that passed internal testing, I don't know) - LANjackal
UPDATE on Visual Voicemail: I checked with VZW today and it really does cost $2.99 extra per month. Thanks to Chris' Carr, though, I installed Google Voice, so I chucked VVM. - LANjackal
Bug: Google Navigation may forget to use the speakerphone at times. I think this happens if you attempt to navigate while the phone is in portrait orientation - LANjackal
On the no character count for test messages --- doesn't it show you how many characters you have left when you get close to the 160 allowed? - Kevin Mohr
I read that it does, but so far I haven't sent anything that long so I haven't seen for myself - LANjackal
Worried about the Droid's 11h battery life? 1) Get the car charger 2) Head over to Monoprice.com and get a micro-B USB 2.0 cable for your office for all of *gasp* <$3, shipping included. Then you'll be able to charge at home, in the car, and in the office. - LANjackal
Wait, an extra fee for VVM? That's just as lame as the extra fee for VZW Navigator. - Wirehead
Not if you were on a Premium plan like I was. VZ Navigator's free then. Unfortunately, Premium plans are unavailable for the Droid, so you have to drop down to a Nationwide Select plan and then tack on a data package. This keeps the service affordable, but it means that VVM's not included. Don't really get VZ's thinking behind this one, although they probably reason that anyone who's savvy enough can get Google Voice anyway while the "average" users will lose $36/year to VVM. - LANjackal
Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Dear Google: Please get rid of this page. Just add a setting so I can say "always use Google Reader for RSS feeds." (Or vice versa, or an option to always ask if someone uses both.) I've been going through this extra step for years now, and I am really tired of it.
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They want us to use the google page. It is really just spam. - Mark Horne
If you use Firefox, BetterGReader extension let's you set a preference to bypass the choice. - LogEx
I'm pretty sure there's a gmscript for just skipping this page. Then again, it's just another click ;) - Maxamad (Amazigh)
LE, I might have to add BetterGReader just to do that. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
annoyed the hell out of me too, but then i stopped using greader - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I really wish they would kill it. I *NEVER* want to add a feed to my google homepage. I never go there. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Exactly, Rah. I've never chosen the Homepage option. Google knows everything about me, they should know by now that this page is worthless to me. And seriously, now with Google's profiles and centralized accounts, a persistent setting for this should be a piece of cake to implement. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Agree, always on the Reader! Great tool! - John Tastad
Yes please! - Summer
Agreed! - Kevin Mohr
Feedly will skip this page for you ;) - Mitchell McKenna
Does it, Mitchell? I have Feedly installed at home, but I haven't noticed. I use Chrome at work, though. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Google Homepage just isn't needed for anything. I wish they'd pull the plug on that thing. - Matthew DeVries
that is why i use the google reader "subscribe" bookmarklet ;-) (edit: you can find it in your google reader settings) - Stanislas Jourdan
Jandy: there is a preview of feedly for chrome. If you are interested, please send me an email at edwink@devhd.com and I will send you an invite. - Edwin Khodabakchian
Agreed!! - Chris Myles
it's like you read my mind or something! - Loc
X-tra like! - Smeerch
i use better greader and it skips this for me. - Liz
Like Stanilas, I just use the bookmarklet. I haven't seen this page in a couple years. - Rob H. from iPhone
Edwin, that's awesome! I'd love to give it a try - I'll shoot you an email. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Kevin Mohr
Droid Limited to 256 MB of Storage for Apps - http://androidandme.com/2009...
This isn't completely true. Google is supposedly working with the open source community to allow for installation of apps on the SD card. - Kevin Mohr
Kevin Mohr
Did Google Steal Sidewiki From a Startup? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
There is also DotSpots. They have a very similar product as well. - Kevin Mohr
LANjackal
Recommend me some good Android-related blogs. Ready? GO!
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TIA - LANjackal
I don't know about blog, but there's a StackOverflow-esque Q&A site for just Android here: http://www.forceclose.com/ - Maxamad (Amazigh)
Let me know if you find any more, but above are the ones I have in Google Reader ... - Kevin Mohr
Here is a twitter-list about android: http://twitter.com/marking... would you help me to let it grow? send a recommendation to @markingegno or leave it here. Thanks. - Markingegno - Donato
Thanks for all of the above, I subscribed to quite a few. Big shoutout to Kevin Mohr who's been stumping for Android since I first saw him online - LANjackal
Rich
Want contacts in Wave? Reply to this with your email address. If no @gmail.com, then we'll assume gmail to save clutter.
I'm rich.bradshaw - Rich
Rich: can you please invite me for google wave pleae - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
ericloganvanman - Eric Logan
Can anyone send me an invite for wave email : saysunnykapoor@gmail.com ...I will be grateful - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
jokin.lacalle - Jokin Lacalle
bluezzwang - ThenWang
sourdrums - Jeremy˚H
This isn't for invites, it's for people already using... - Rich
skitcherboy - Ahmed
neuro159 - Alexey Gopachenko
kmohr25 - Kevin Mohr
LOL. Because who doesn't have Gmail? I do. LOL. But still no Wave invite. I asked one like, ever ago. LOL. - Zachary TG
igrigorik -- ;-) - Ilya Grigorik
jckchrstphr - Jack Christopher
bansode - Gaurav Bansode
cabvolt - sean808080
Rich, lots here: http://ff.im/91NZC - Kol Tregaskes
Kol Tregaskes
So have all the geeks left FriendFeed? Reply to this post with where you feel you fall - 'geek' or 'non-geek'. :-) EDIT: I think that's pretty clear, the geeks have *not* left FriendFeed. :-)
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Geek! - Kol Tregaskes
Geek! - Travis Koger
GEEK - johnpiercy
not really a geek. somewhere in between. - vijay
According to my friends, geek ... - Irma Vermaat
I fall between the two.. - Simon Wicks
Geek(-ish)! - Ade
Geek. - Robert Scoble
a carnival performer who does disgusting acts eccentric: a person with an unusual or odd personality , or an individual with a passion for computers, to the exclusion of other normal human interests. I assume we are using the last definition? - Brian Sullivan
Geek!! - Chris Zlatis
Geek. With an unusual or odd personality. - Mark H
both: happy&nice??mix of geek and non-geek xoxo - anjelina
Technophile not talented enough to be a real geek. - Eric Logan
geek. definitely - Imabug
geek! - Josh Lam
Geek, I suppose. - Vera Hannaford
GEEK! - Daniel Vining
Geek, but you wouldn't know it by most of my FriendFeed postings. - Ha3rvey (Free hugs!)
Geek. - rowlikeagirl
I'm definitely a geek, but not nearly as much of a geek as some others. - Curtiss Grymala
Geek and proud! - Parvez Halim
non-geek - teh Dork Knight
Me? nah! Everything But The Geek! - directeur
I am a big Geek and I am still here - Rob Cairns
It's all Geek to me - Tim Ostler
Geek! - Oytnx
Geek, reporting in. - Jason Huebel
(former) GEEK - Joe Silence is not dead
Half breed, still here. - Thom Kennon
D&D playing IT pro = very geeky - Alex Scrivener
geek, but losing interest in FF as others catch up with features - Chris Rogers
I am here but it is up to others to decide whether I am geek or not. - ashish
Geek - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
Geek! - chris
Geek - EhsanDiary
Geek!!! - adataghost
geek! - Dr.Lonely Lotus
Geek, but not in terms of tech, rather comic books, etc. :) - Derrick
You hand in your ticket...And you go watch the geek...Who immediately walks up to you...When he hears you speak...And says, "How does it feel...To be such a freak?"...And you say, "Impossible"...As he hands you a bone - Greg GuitarBuster
Geek, of course. That's why I don't fit in on other social networks. - April Russo (app103)
Nerd and Proud™! (which should count as geek) - Marco Fabbri
geek, absolutely! - Stephanie
Geeek (1 more e ) of course ! - Oğulcan Selçuk Akbulut
Geek! Per your hypothesis that geek have left FF, where else would they have flocked to? - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
non-geek - chaz2b
@Marco Fabbri: Nerd != Geek. In SML Dictionary, Nerds have no fashion sense and can't talk to people, Geeks generally have a fashion sense and can carry on a conversation relatively ok; nerds usually wear white t-shirts and white sneakers; Geeks generally wear black t-shirts and black sneakers. A classic example: Nerd = Bill gates; Geek = Steve Jobs! - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
depends on what we are geeking out about. if we're talking about music, shoes, spinning, dyeing, yarn, german history, b movies and zombies- then ubergeek. - Mary Carmen
reformed non-geek - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
geek, but not the tech type of geek, more like a geeky nerd - William Harryman
Geek in some respects. Non geek in others. So...semi geek - Tamara from iPhone
left as not "left" but they kinda abandoned it/reduced the usage - ffcode
@See-ming Lee that is indeed controversial. Anyway as choice was given between geek and non-geek I meant some degree of nerd counts as geek. - Marco Fabbri
Geek. But I post as much political stuff as tech... - Christopher Galtenberg
I'm like a geek's groupie. - MicahBear78
Geek! Still is. Still, Zu is using FF. - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
@Marco Fabbri Well I think that all geeks are nerds, but all nerds != geeks. I believe that Set(Geek) includes Set(Nerd) but this is a question I have been thinking about for years now and I don't yet have a conclusion yet. But at least that's where I'm at now! - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Geek. - Brome
Geek. - Tanath
I am still here. I am not sure I am a geek. But, you know, I am not the most objective person when considering myself. - Martha
Geek. - Heather
If we were doing this in Google Wave, we could've used a poll gadget. Anyone got a Wave invite to spare for a fellow geek! :0) - Daniel Vining
Not fitting the both. I'm big of a nerd. - Burcu Dogan
Geek! - Martin Bryant from iPhone
mutant geek - bob phillips
Geek to the last! - Jemm
geek, definitely - Michele Costabile
Geek, but I prefer "nerd"... a geek is someone who bites the heads off chickens in a carnival sideshow. - Andy Bakun from Android
I've always thought of myself as a nerd, but, according to Alex Scoble's definition, I'm not. So I guess i'm not sure. - Glen Campbell
What is Alex's definition? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
What the heck is the point of this question? Could a non-geek even use FriendFeed?? - Internet's Tad
Geek, but I'd enjoy and use Friendfeed even if I weren't. - Micah Wittman
Certified Geek - Giraffes Up In The AIr
I am very much a geek, but I don't talk software here and concentrate on other things like science, art, entertainment ... - RAPatton
geek - Bill Scherer
Geek: I have totally noticed a lack of conversation. Agh! - Zachary TG
Portable Geek - Hussein Erol
geek - Jan Ole Peek
Neither. - Maxamad (Amazigh)
Not a geek - R1CC1
Hell to the naw...all the real geeks are still here. - Alex Scoble
Definite geek! Or should I say gEEk, cause I'm an EE. - Kevin L
Still here, still geeky! - Joel Bennett
My wife says I'm a geek. - Jeff P. Henderson
Geek - Mitchell Tsai
Geek - Andrew Terry from iPod
That looks like a lot of geeks. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Geek :) - Susan Beebe from iPhone
Geek, with hints of nerd - Christopher A Carr
I'm going with something I been told: 'you have chips for brains!' - Grant Bierman
;) - A.T.
Geek. I guess I might qualify at least partially for a nerd, since I have to ask my husband if my shirt matches my pants... - Eph Zero
Italian geek. - marco aka mackΩs-gnu
geek-esque, but more of a "creative type". I have geeky interests. - Kamilah Gill
linux geek - Joe Geeting
geek - 9000
Geek - Murat Ozoral
I'm with Kamilah - I like that - "creative geek." - Amy℠
g33k - Kevin Mohr
none-geek - Amin Diary
non-geek & non-nerd... =p - Özgür D. Cyric
I never thought of myself as a geek, but I guess I am being on intenet 24/7. - Ton Zijp
Geek I am still here - Steve Mott
GEEEEEEKKKKK! - WorldofHiglet
Geek who still thinks FF adds lots of value regardless of volume of engagement. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
still here (I post this a lot) and still geek. - Mike Nencetti
i didnt leave yet, geek. Also, Ozgur Duru is a geek and a hopeless nerd too. he is lying! - Bahriye
dorkalicious nerdtastic geek - Heather
Geek, of course. - i80and
I'm either a geek, or I play one on TV. I forget which sometimes. - LogEx
Uhh, negative. I am a meat popsicle. - Josh Haley
i'm a one of a kind internet legend - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Geek .. for sure - Bhowmik Shah
Most definitely a Geek. - Got Love For DB™? from iPod
I'm not a geek. I'm a turbocharged, direct fuel injected GEEK. - Mike Nayyar
Geek. :) - Dr. Apps from twhirl
I think the social media writer early adopters have left, the geeks, it seems are still here - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
still here :) - Stanislas Jourdan
geek...still here... - ovigia
Geek - DAL from iPhone
I dable .. compared to my friends, Geek! - Chris Myles
dude I SHIT geek, I'm so geek - sofarsoShawn
Wannabe-geek :) - JA Castillo
Former geek, but no longer - Mark Jepsen
healing my wounded inner geek. i went freak for a while, then artsy-hipster... keeping hints of those, but the foundation is looking mighty geek. - T. Brent, technopeasant
Meek. They say we'll inherit it. - howard shippin from BuddyFeed
Geek, of course. - Steven Perez
Geek - Glenn Slaven
Geek and I'm still here! - Nicholas Kreidberg
wannabe geek, follower of geeks... can't find better geeks elsewhere... who will talk to me LOL - Holly Rae, FFer
geek! - Lee
Geek - Amber
Geek in the making ;) - Bicentennial (Franc)
Geek! (And hacker of memes, too. ;) - Dennis Jernberg
geek - Bruce Lewis
Geek. - Kevin Pedraja
no geek - marsupilamima
I don't know... How can I tell if I am a geek? - J. Abdul-Qahhar
Not a geek. But I am a Social Media Expert, as you know. - Jim Hearts FF from iPhone
Geek, for sure! - Brian Jude from twhirl
keeg ;p - zʍıɔ
Geek - 2icarly3
g33k - Tom Silk from twhirl
I still here Kol. Forever G33K..! - ★ Soner Gönül
Cool, Soner. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
nope! we shall stand until the end! no matter the cost! - Darth Farhad Sama
today im a geek b - R_ C
Non-geek. But I'm in denial. ;) - Meryn Stol
Geek - Nathan Snyder
Geek - Nils Sandin
I think that's pretty clear, the geeks have *not* left FriendFeed. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Geek... - Carlos Sousa
Sorta geek-leaning. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
greek geek who left twitter:) - Citronella
Geek! - prozacfield
The way I look at it, most of my friends primarily use Facebook OR Twitter. A few use both, and a few have YouTube Accounts. They don't read RSS feeds or use Google Reader or Digg or StumbleUpon. Therefore, non-geeks cannot see the benefits of this aggregation power (anyone agree or not?) - Nathan Snyder
Proof that geeks have NOT left FriendFeed? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Non-geek being converted by the boyfriend. - Katie: Witch Of The West
Geek++ - mikepk
Hehe, Katie, don't do it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I am a tad bit nerdy, I do a bit of WP coding (I don't just blog y'all :) :) - Holden Page
GEEK. But not just a tech geek. Geekery comes in many forms. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'm a geek to the core. A multi-faceted geek at that. - tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I hate the word geek. Anything but it. - Maxamad (Amazigh)
femgeek and renaissance geek - Melanie Reed
Geek! - James Myatt
Kol Tregaskes
What is your Twitter URL? What do you tweet about? Mine is http://twitter.com/koltreg... and I tweet about all sorts :-) #twitter
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Feel free to follow me. This thread could get messy. :-) #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes
Sorry I had to delete the first post of this, so apologises for the few that posted their URLs on that one. - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/jcunwired I could use some more followers too. I hope you folks aren't bots! :) - jcunwired
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niczak -- I tweet about the following: Programming, databases, parenting, living & enjoying life, and involvement in lots of local activities here in Northern Nevada. - Nicholas Kreidberg
Thanks, Nicholas. - Kol Tregaskes
Well I'll still be on Twitter once FF is integrated into FB. Join me on Twitter? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/chaz2b my posts start here for what i post on twitter - chaz2b
you rock, Kol! Good community building here. - Valeria Maltoni
http://twitter.com/andrewroche - politics and random stuff (a lot of it from here funnily enough). - Andrew Roche
I have most of you (didn't have Valeria for some reason, but just added), mine is http://twitter.com/jungleg -- see you on the other side ;) - Jorge Escobar
http://www.twitter.com/jimgold... - photography and social media - Jim Goldstein
http://twitter.com/magicofpi - you might see a lot of ff.im links there, but I suppose that'll change soon... - Ryan - @magicofpi
http://twitter.com/jwang392 - web design, iphone app development, hawaii events - John Wang
http://twitter.com/onWave - I post links from a useful Twitter tool I made... and sometimes mundane stuff... - Gus
http://twitter.com/fcbosa - social media, blogging, design, inspiration. - Oğuz Serdar
http://twitter.com/seckoa - I enjoy getting new followers - Seckoa from iPod
Thanks guys. - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/Chronotope - Mostly I tweet about tech stuff and news local to the Northern Virgina area. I also touch on video games and get some blipping in. - Aram Zucker-Scharff
http://twitter.com/kandeezie - randomness and nerdy gadget/tech love. :-p - Kandeezie
http://twitter.com/gabediaz - Design, development, WordPress and all things in between. - Gabe Diaz
http://www.twitter.com/puffadd... I tweet about ninjas lol. - Jason
I basically tweet politics at http://Twitter.com/hopechat; i follow discussions on books, gardening and general stuff on http://Twitter.com/ruthdfw; grantwriting and freelancing on http://Twitter.com/words101 and for anything related to Dallas and surrounding cities it is http://Twitter.com/NDGEditor - R. Ferguson
http://twitter.com/movieguyjon - I say weird shit, bitch at random times, and will say more weird shit. Occasionally I'll post fun things too, with a smidgeon of inane. :P - Jon, the Beartato of FF
http://www.twitter.com/rutgerb... tweet about my daily life (aka status updates), tech and photography. - Rutger Blom from iPhone
Pretty clever way to work in a plug for your timeline.. I like your style, Kol ;) - Brad McCrorey
Http://Twitter.com/Polizeros cleantech, the economy, leftwing politics - Bob Morris (polizeros) from iPhone
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niron (isn't it obvious?) - Nir Ben Yona
http://twitter.com/feeniks ... anything that comes to mind at that particular moment :) - Bhowmik Shah
http://twitter.com/dennis_... (don't forget the underscore) What do I tweet about? Tech, fiction, art, music, politics, comics, and of course my fiction. Occasionally some Seattle or Bremerton related stuff. I also have TwitterFeed tweet my blogs, and I always tweet from Flickr. - Dennis Jernberg
http://twitter.com/marcoda... Twitting about Communications, Marketing and something about myself :) - Marco Dal Pozzo
http://twitter.com/tofu916 I tweet about black people and I use a lot of foul language. then I repent. follow mi! :) - Tofu De la Moore from BuddyFeed
http://twitter.com/hoof I tweet a lot in Dutch, about design, photoshop, 3d and everyday life. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
http://twitter.com/wordsfo... - I actually respond to people to want to chat with me ;-) - Jannifer @wordsforliving
http://twitter.com/alexgamela i tweet about media and journalism, and sometimes silly stuff. also in portuguese. - Alexandre Gamela from twhirl
http://twitter.com/glenc but I have to warn you, I stopped following people on Twitter a while ago. I have about 300 subscription notices (unread) in my email. - Glen Campbell
i post about film and television editing/post production, I'm a bit of a gadget nerd, and i like anything funny on the web. i love followers... http://twitter.com/toddzelin - Todd Zelin
I'm sure you're all interesting but following 6,000 is my limit. ; ) - Liz
http://twitter.com/cgranier - I tweet about many things -usually tech-oriented, reply to everyone who @'s me, and have lately been posting a lot about #FreeMediaVE, bringing attention to the struggle against communism in Venezuela. Feel free to follow me. @ me for a quick follow back. No spammers please. - Carlos Granier-Phelps
Thank you all. I hope at least some follow me back else I'll hit my follower limit soon. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/may_gun My music career, interaction with ppl, The Guild, Wiggly Wigglers. - Spidra Webster
http://twitter.com/casschin - I mostly post up funny/odd web gems and nerdy tech news. Occasionally, I tweet what I eat. - Cassidy
http://identi.ca/andyc Microblog about all sorts but mainly OMB and how much I dislike inferior legacy services. No names, no packdrill. - Andy C
http://twitter.com/Felter i tweet about all, but i don't retweet my FF message. From twitter to FF only. if you follow me in FF, you can read my tweet. - Felter Roberto from twhirl
http://twitter.com/abrudtkuhl - web strategy & internet marketing + random stuff - andy brudtkuhl
twitter.com/icetiger - Kim
twitter.com/andi1984 - elearning, web 2.0 - Andreas S.
twitter.com/thatpj I tweet about film, politics, and sports. - PJ Edwards
http://www.twitter.com/jbschro... - everything. mostly tech - Johnny
http://twitter.com/islanddog Tech, Gaming, and everything in between - Spencer
http://twitter.com/cacarr - Tech, Cognitive Science - Christopher A Carr
http://twitter.com/livepaola (bilingual, in Italian and English) - Paola Bonomo
http://twitter.com/ozuckan, trilingual, in Turkish, in English, in French, all sort... - Ozgur Uckan
Thanks again. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Twitter.com/mathewballard and I tweet mostly about graphic and web design. - Mathew™ one of a kind from iPhone
http://twitter.com/sidmitra #hack,#hackday, and tech/geek in general. - Siddharth Mitra from twhirl
http://twitter.com/PhilBaumann - I'll tweet about anything stimulating, contentious or jackassy. - phil baumann
http://twitter.com/alejandroz and I tweet about...everything. - Alejandro
You know, you could have just started feeding in your tweets here and achieved the same, right? Or would that have been too subtle? - Mr. Gunn
http://twitter.com/glitterpoet Don't mean to offend but it's usually not religious. Porn, drinking,dancing, music,makeup....I still do healing work. I just don't talk about it much anymore. - Gabrielle V
My twitter stream is the typical... random thought bubbles, food porn pics, and shared items relating to technology, politics, and $$$. http://twitter.com/sean808080 is where you find me. Oh and I like unicorns and fairy dust. - sean808080
@fossilhuntress or fossilmaitress (I kept getting my email cracked and getting locked out hence the duplicate); all content, linked to digg, delicious... mostly science, paleo and random banter... - Fossil Huntress
http://twitter.com/joeygibson - I tweet about WDW, Java, Groovy, Scala, iPhone, politics, etc. I'm loads of fun. :-) - Joey Gibson
http://twitter.com/burak - I tweet about technology, gadgets, stuff that matters - Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
http://twitter.com/super_g... I tweet about bathroom trips, stupidity and cougar sightings - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Fossil, it's @fossilhuntress http://twitter.com/fossilh... The other one doesn't exist. - Kol Tregaskes
It's @bookhling for me. I usually tweet about DIYBio, computers, books, and what I ate for dinner. :) - Sung W. Lim
@JacquesMuffin and I tweet mostly about music. - Olivier de Villardi
Thanks guys. - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks everyone. - Kol Tregaskes
I have ceased being a twitter user since they are such twats (management) - Richard A.
http://twitter.com/erier2003 - I write about technology, journalism, and Star Wars. But mostly Star Wars. :) - Eric Geller
I twit at http://twitter.com/alfpace on webapps technology cool things - Alfonso Pace from iPhone
Maybe this is a good time to 'reactivate' this thread. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget the other lists can be found at the hashtag: #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes
@ffcode - ffcode
http://twitter.com/wangyip - mostly stuff from FF (tech, startups, web apps, sometimes things about math, medicine, fitness) - I've followed a few here on tech stuff (Edit: Thanks Kol for the thread) - Wang Yip
http://twitter.com/eoghann... - I post sci-fi news (tv, movies, books or comics I'm probably a fan of it), some tech stuff and the occasional round of venting. - Eoghann Irving
I have Twitter lists now, and I've started one up for FriendFeeders: http://twitter.com/dennis_...; if you want me to add you to it, @-mention me at http://twitter.com/dennis_.... - Dennis Jernberg
Thanks everyone! - Kol Tregaskes
http://www.twitter.com/holdenp... and I tweet about tech occasionally but mostly about my day by day activities and such. - Holden Page
Just followed you. Btw, mine's - http://twitter.com/jaypee - JP Habaradas
http://twitter.com/DavidHolmes - Focusing on Internet music, Open Content, and the Social Web. I use lists to group/filter the people I follow. - David Holmes
Kevin Mohr
Movie Narrative Charts - http://xkcd.com/657/
This is incredible. - Kevin Mohr
Kevin Mohr
How to Turn Your Windows 7 Computer Into a Wireless Router In 5 Minutes, No Hardware - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
I always wondered why this wasn't possible before... - Kevin Mohr
LANjackal
idk how much longer I can sit here at work for. I just realized something and I'm about to go nuts :) :) :)
What did you realize? Today's Wednesday? - Kevin Mohr
Nope, just that I'm no longer in a city with a horrible ratio, that there are plenty of fish in the sea here, and this place is just like college except now I have a professional paycheck to party with. The 2nd girl telling me "let's just be friends" yesterday made me realize this. It's time to go fucking crazy. I don't know what I've been on over the past 2 years (taking a break, growing up, whatever), but it's OVER. O-V-E-R. The beast has returned :) - LANjackal from IM
Uh oh ... watch out ladies ... - Kevin Mohr
Ha, I make no claims about myself. As my dad says, the only thing I know I'm better than everyone else at is trying :) - LANjackal from IM
Bring home a good one :P - Kevin Mohr
LOL this is a process dude, not a one night thing. Don't listen to what you hear on the radio, ain't nobody going home with 2 chicks and all that crap unless they play for the Chargers or something like that. You just gotta keep swinging and celebrate whatever hits you get - LANjackal from IM
The exception is that in this case it's virtually impossible to strike out. New crop of fresh 'uns (going out crowd, not freshmen) every year. Oh, and since I'm not in school, I don't have to really worry about leaving - LANjackal from IM
Kevin Mohr
Google’s New Mobile App Cuts GPS Nav Companies At The Knees - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Wow ... that is crazy ... Here come the anti-Google-ites... - Kevin Mohr
Kevin Mohr
Google Docs now more consistent - http://googledocs.blogspot.com/2009...
HOLY COW!!! THEY USED MY IDEA!!! - Kevin Mohr
Amani
What is your preferred gmail add-on to firefox for mail notification, etc??
prefer to use digsby - Странник
Digsby too :) - LANjackal
I always leave the Gmail tab open during a whole browsing session... - TrafficBug
I just leave my phone next to me ... makes a noise when I get an email :P - Kevin Mohr
I mainly use a native app, on desktop and phone. Better to handle multiple accounts. - LogEx
like to use firefox live bookmarks to subscribe to my gmail rss - Mike Chelen
directeur
Guys, here's a serious question: Do you use linux and open source? Don't you? Why? Why not? (Especially for desktops and workstations)
Serious answers please! I mean comments like "freetards!" or "We HAVE to pay for software" aren't serious — Also, gentle discussions between commenters are very welcome! Please be nice, cool and helpful - I'd really appreciate it :) - directeur
I tried it. It had a horrible learning curve and very little community support for those trying to run Linux on Mac hardware. - Spidra Webster
Spidra, I run Linux on macs :) Can I help? Also, I actually think that you probably tried some years ago, didn't you? - directeur
I do is certain situations. For example, I have a service offering that integrates the Asterisk PBX. I am mostly MS on the desktop. - Eric @ CS Techcast from iPhone
I did for a short time. I had no compelling reason to stay with it. - Internet's Tad
Thanks, Erid, I'm editing my post for "Desktop" and "Workstations" - directeur
Community was sometimes a hassle to deal with until I discovered Ubuntu and the community that went along with it. Then I had wi-fi issues every new release. Then I had sound card issues. And as for open source software in general. i will use OO as an example. It truly sucks in terms of UI and overall power compared to Microsoft Office which I adore - Holden Page
Yes - I use Linux and Open source for all my backend servers at the school I work at. Its all LAMP and its all AWS. This includes blogs, moodle, streaming media (a and v), and other support systems I need to run my section of the school. I can't imagine using anything else right now. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I do from shitty FAT flash drives that die after awhile. It was also on the home computer until my dad demanded his Micro$oft back. If I'm allowed to keep this laptop I'm using now, I'm going to do a format C:/ first thing and get some Debian on - Maxamad (Amazigh)
I thought linux was open source (bows out cuz i'm clueless.) - MicahBear78
Tad, did you miss something? for eg? - directeur
Yeah, I was trying back in 2000 or so. Before OS X. I think people who like tinkering are fine with Linux. I just want my computer to WORK. I used to be a Mac power user back in OS 9 days and troubleshot stuff and did tech support. I'm tired of it. I just want to get shit done. - Spidra Webster
@Micah - SCO - they have ideas on that. :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Micah, duh! I meant other open source softawre beside Linux, Like BSD and other apps (not kernel) - directeur
Linux because that's what I'm used to. - Bruce Lewis
I use gnu/linux/open-source-software for my work and personal needs. Linux is awesome. Especially it's fast and stable for my development needs. (PHP, Python/Django.) - Emre Yılmaz
Linux is great and all but it is still too complex for the average user, - Hunter
It just didn't do anything for me. I'm more comfortable in Windows and OSX. I make a living writing software on the .NET framework. I toyed with Ruby on Rails for a while, and learned a lot, but I also learned that I could only make about half of what I'm making as a c# developer... I just have no need for Linux. - Internet's Tad
I don't use Linux on the desktop because I don't consider gimp to be a sufficient replacement for Photoshop. That's the deal breaker. There are also other similar reasons that are less important. - Jason Wehmhoener
On the server I am quite fond of BSD, debian, and Solaris. - Jason Wehmhoener
I haven't found anything lacking in my OSX experience that I thought linux would have. I had considered a mythTV box for a while but boxee and plex have negated that need too. - dthree
Yes, everywhere...except my macbook pro at home - Bill Scherer
Yep, always, I use Linux on two flavours, Suse and Ubuntu. Unices in general are for people who value more broad networks and sharing to personal station and copyrights. - Thierry Lhôte
Not on the desktop. I like playing games. - Rodfather
i use for some reason like most security softwares (offensive security) work perfect on linux. and the desktops of linux? extremely cool =] on the other hand, i love graphical design stuffs and it's kinda meditation for me but most softwares i need does not work on linux yet. at least, not properly. also my graphic tablet does not work on linux. i can use it as a mouse but as a drawing tool i need pen pressure sensitivity and it does not work on linux. too bad =\ - emre dede ve haremi
I downloaded Ubuntu and installed it as dual boot with Vista, on a new Dell PC (with 2 hard drives). no issues. - Mike Nencetti
Of course. It's the only environment I've seen that I can optimize to my workflow, rather than vice-versa. It's simpler, better-engineered, and far more customizable. Sadly, the graphics stack is sub-par as are most of the games, so for play I still have to use Windows. - i80and
I use Linux Mint almost exclusively at home (I only boot Windows to sync my iPhone, my kids' iPod Touches and my Zune - the iPod Nano and the Creative Zen get synced from Linux). I boot XP in VirtualBox occasionally to check things in IE6 or to use MS Office. I use quite a bit of other open-source software (free and paid). I am a big advocate of open-source and Linux. As long as I can... more... - Curtiss Grymala
Mac is cool, Windows 7 is cool, but not fresh because overloaded with things and blahblah design we do not need for communication. Linux is still staying "fresh" even after hours of use. So LInux is best for intellectual work I presume. - Thierry Lhôte
I love me some Linux and Open Source. Why? Transparency, mainly. Plus the software is usually super streamlined and as a consequence is not very resource intense. And I really love running at like 5% processor power. - Miss Elle
Doh! My own answer! :) I use Linux (Debian Lenny) - I'm a kind of minimalist, I don't like to have to use gazzilions of apps (though linux haz dem too) But what I like more is that I am _aware_ of what's in my machine. I can do mostly anything that people do on other OSes (Now by anything I mean: do not compare apps, compare how we work and results of apps uses) And often I'm more... more... - directeur
Results aren't the only thing that matters. Efficiency is important as well when you are being paid by the hour. So is the ability to share files with colleagues. You can't completely dismiss the importance of apps. - Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, that's it actually (Posted my edit before) Sharing is easy for me. Why would it be hard? - directeur
I like the Apps and U/X on OS X desktop much better, but you know that already. - Cristo
directeur, I have some pretty complex PSDs. Can you edit them and send them back to me without messing them up? - Jason Wehmhoener
Yes, I know Cristo :) yet you still have the power of the CLI too on OSX - directeur
Yup, I use both, and ssh into a Linux server too. It's all good. I can imagine wanting to run Linux locally if you wanted to perfectly emulate your server on your desktop, but BSD on OS X is good enough for anything I need to do in that respect. - Cristo
Jason - you're absolutely right about the fact that Photoshop is much more powerful than any alternatives. However, you've also contradicted yourself by using PSD files as an example. Can you share those complex PSD files with your clients? Most likely not. You said being able to share was most important for you, but then you cited a proprietary format that is not available to the majority of computer users (no matter their operating systems). - Curtiss Grymala
Curtiss, if Jason and I wanted to work on the same PSD file, that would be sharing too, no? Giving files to clients is what Exporting and Save As is for. - Cristo
Cristo - If directeur and I wanted to share the same XCF file, that would be sharing, too, no? - Curtiss Grymala
I'd also like to answer for my Mom -- She loves Linux now that I've installed it on her desktop. I know her reason would be, "Because it just works." as the Puppy Linux LiveCD worked right off the boot-up and came with all the apps she ever wanted (well ... minus Skype ... but Gizmo was a good replacement). Also, she doesn't have to worry about malware, which consumed too many of her brain cycles. - Miss Elle
Cristo, I think he means openness. Why would you expect everyone to own a copy of photoshop or whatever? Moreover, I think the Gimp can import PSD files too - directeur
I did say "colleagues" and not "clients". I frequently share source format files with colleagues. (Colleagues who would laugh if I suggested they open an XCF using Gimp in order to do hourly paid design work) - Jason Wehmhoener
Curtiss, not many design shops not using Photoshop or Fireworks. directeur, I'm pretty sure Jason and I are on the same page with this. - Cristo
i just love linux and open source. - Mengu
Jason what's laughable about it? I run a business and we all use Inkscape and the Gimp :/ - directeur
The Boyfriend does not line OpenSource. He's a total MacFanboi. His reason against the FLOSS were that he wanted the perceived status that comes with owning Apple products. Well marketed, Apple. Well marketed, indeed. Especially since OS X looks an awful lot like Ubuntu. (I assume it is different under the hood.) - Miss Elle
Lots of gimp forum posts about errors with PSD files. directeur, you aren't working with my teammates. - Jason Wehmhoener
@directeur - GIMP can import PSD though some of the blends don't import quite right. - Miss Elle
Heh, thanks for the input Miss Elle! Linux doesn't have that kind of marketing, alas (or not?) - directeur
The fact of the matter remains, though, that a lot of the "shareability" depends entirely on what you do for a living. I can share PHP files with anyone, no matter what system they're using or which editor they're working with because it's an open standard. However, you can only share PSD files with other colleagues that use Photoshop. For that matter, if you have CS4 and you use all of... more... - Curtiss Grymala
You know what's interesting? OS X includes a LOT of open source code. - Jason Wehmhoener
If you think Linux looks like OS X, or that design shops use GIMP, then you aren't doing any pro design work. - Cristo
Jason, so does Linux too ;-) - directeur
Cristo you're definitely wrong! That's a genral statement by someone who apparently doesn't use this app a lot - directeur
This is really kind of a silly discussion. - Cristo
The GIMP is terrible at importing PSD files (especially with layers). However, PhotoShop isn't even capable (at least, out-of-the-box) of importing an XCF file. For that matter, it can't even import a PSP file, but Paint Shop Pro can fairly reliably import PSD files (it will rasterize vector elements, though - not implying that PSP is open-source, though). - Curtiss Grymala
I really like the BSD license, because it allows open source code to live in harmony with commercial efforts. And ya, the conversation is kinda silly. - Jason Wehmhoener
Well, let's be productive :) :re the conversation - directeur
No...You can't run Office on *NIX and for me that's a non-starter. - Alex Scoble
directeur, point us at a sample design of an entity that does most of their work in GIMP. - Cristo
Alex, we're not talking about apps, but about what you want to do and how to do it - directeur
I agree, directeur. Here's something productive for you - What does Adobe inDesign offer that's not available in Scribus? Very little. In fact, AFAIK, the only thing it doesn't offer that you can find in InDesign is a PMS matching system. - Curtiss Grymala
I also think the BSD/Apache licenses are vastly superior to GPL and it's copyleft offshoots. - Cristo
@Cristo - Though a LinuxLover at heart, I'll be the first to suggest that designers should use Apple. Apple seems to really nail the creative niche with its power to support graphic design, music, and movie softwares. I think there is enough room in the software world for a right fit for every need kind of thing and I'm not sure that Apple is always the right fit. Nor is Windows. Nor is Linux. - Miss Elle
Cristo, I bet any opensource community does... anyway. I'd like to focus of what people need to do and how they achieve it, comparing apps is well, just silly - directeur
Open source community projects generally suck at U/X design, particularly in the visual area. Sorry to be harsh, but it's the truth. - Cristo
There are actually a lot of design firms that use open-source tools to do their work. The overwhelming majority of artwork for major open-source projects (linux builds, etc.) is done with open-source tools. They don't all suck, Cristo. If they did, Windows and Mac wouldn't steal UI elements from Linux (yes, it works the other way, too, I know). - Curtiss Grymala
You put MacPorts on OSX and you can build and run most open source apps. You can run X11 on OSX as well though its not exactly blazing fast. I have Mac, Linux and Windows boxes, Mac is best of most worlds so its my desktop now, Windows is for games, still have a Linux box I use remotely. I grew up on Unix and fled to Linux very early. Just got tired of Gnome/KDE nonsense, drivers not working right, especially audio. Open source just struggles doing desktop, GUI, Audio and consistent apps. - Ed Millard
Miss Ellie, I agree. Linux is particularly good as a server OS or as a desktop that is doing server development. - Cristo
Why? because they don't look eye-candied à la Apple? Cristo? - directeur
directeur, because they look amateurish. - Cristo
I always thought X had something to do with UX issues in unix-land. programming for X seems complex compared to UI programming on windows and OS X. - Jason Wehmhoener
Although there are toolkits that would seem to help... - Jason Wehmhoener
Cristo, heh :) We will never agree, I think. - directeur
I use linux for my main computer. I also use Android for my mobile. I try and use open sourced projects whenever possible too. - Kevin Mohr
UX stands for user experience. UI stands for user interface. UX has nothing to do with the X window environment. - Curtiss Grymala
Seriously, guys, let's be productive tell me about usability. Not how cool apps look, My desktop (I don't have an actual desktop) is a black screen, no panels, no buttons, no menus, not even a wallpaper, nothing! and I do everything I need to do - directeur
I always thought the Windows 95-esque GUI for Linux was because most of the apps are written by coders who, as code monkies, aren't very visually oriented individuals - Miss Elle
Android is Apache 2, the superior license. - Cristo
Miss Elle, I agree, and I wondered "why aren't some visually oriented individuals improving the situation?" and I think it's because it takes too much damn code to make a Linux UI. - Jason Wehmhoener
Curtiss, I'm not sure Jason was implying there was a connection, other than the X windowing server may be used to implement the Linux user experience. - Cristo
Miss Elle - what desktop environment and window manager are you using with linux? Not everything resembles Windows 95. In fact, KDE has a very slick look, especially when combined with the right window manager. - Curtiss Grymala
directeur, i do a lot of things that cannot be done via CLI. Sorry, it's just a fact. - Jason Wehmhoener
I'm never going to use an acronym for "user experience" again. gah. - Jason Wehmhoener
Linux UI? Please stop these idées-reçues! The Linux desktop has changed since the 90's a LOT! @Jason, I'm using X with ratpoison, not only the CLI :) - directeur
directeur, you're correct. I'm not going to switch from using OS X, which I love to use., to using Linux which I find amateurish from a U/X point of view. I'm not suggesting anyone stop using Linux as their desktop either. - Cristo
Cristo, that's your right and you have answered your and this thread's question :) — "amateurish" is not an answer. It's a statement. Don't expect me to agree, think whatever you want :) - directeur
Nothing I say is ever meant to be anything other than my opinion, unless I claim it as fact. :) - Cristo
I use windows and some open source software. Why because I'm familiar with windows tools,and used visual studio for years- I got sick of makefiles for complex library builds, dependencies, etc - Mark Essel from iPhone
Sorry for the misunderstanding, Jason. I thought you were implying that the "X" in UX was the problem, and relating that to the X graphic environment. My fault. Also, as I mentioned, I agree with you guys about PhotoShop (and I feel the same way about MS Office), but I was just trying to point out that you can't dismiss things out-of-hand just because you don't use them. - Curtiss Grymala
I am using Gnome one one machine and KDE on the other. And while I've found ways to apply beautiful themes, that still doesn't save AbiWord or Blender or Gxine or Mplayer or a host of other apps interfaces which are stuck somewhere between Win95 and Win3.1. kPDF, on the other hand, does a good job, I think. - Miss Elle
Curtiss, I actually think it's really cool that some folks use open source exclusively for design. I'm actually a little jealous, but my priorities are such that I can't get hung up on it. I use the tools I need to use to work with the people I want to work with. - Jason Wehmhoener
Not sure I would say its amatuerish, inconsistent is probably a better word. There just aren't good standards and its to easy for open source coders to wander all over the map designing inconsistent UI, inconsistent hotkeys, drag and drop integration not working right etc. Apple has Interface Builder which is a dream to develop UI in, its why their apps tend to be consistent and good. If you stay within in Gnome or KDE apps the inconsistency isnt so bad but its just not as good as OSX. - Ed Millard
For a really long time (pre vista) I had a dual boot of xp and freeBSD. I used windows for school projects where i was just too busy and lazy to work with programs that said they were Office/win compatible, but came out garbled on my un-computer friendly professor's pc. But I also remember every time I had a final paper due, win would crap out and I'd have to go into the linux partition... more... - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
That I understand, Miss Elle. As Ed just mentioned, it's more about inconsistency, actually. Depending on the apps you use, you can find the same phenomenon among closed-source, paid applications in Windows. - Curtiss Grymala
Someone should make an open source Interface Builder like app. - Jason Wehmhoener
Something like Glade? Jason? - directeur
I don't know enough about Glade to compare it to IB. Has anyone else used both? - Jason Wehmhoener
Jason - I completely understand. I am fortunate enough to have CS4 for work, but if it wasn't provided, I'd have no choice but to use free, open-source apps, as there's no way I could afford to buy CS4 out of my own pocket. That's why I try to keep up to date with those apps (in case I ever end up at a different job without CS4 at my disposal). Granted, I'm not a designer, but I do have to work with designers regularly. - Curtiss Grymala
I think Qt/KDE has an interface designer but I haven't used it enough to say how good it is. Apple did just about everything right in Interface Builder. As long as Linux has so many different desktops, window managers, audio API's, GUI toolkits its just not going to be very friendly to app developers or your average end user. The whole KDE versus GNOME thing really messes it up as a desktop OS and makes it too fragmented. - Ed Millard
@Curtiss -- I've noticed that, too. Again I think it is a case of "good coder, bad at GUI", but that OpenSource seems to encourage everyone to code it if they can think it. Whereas for the closed source operating systems there is typically a team working on the software and one member of the team is usually a GUI designer. When it is a volunteer team, as I've seen often with FLOSS, there is not that guarantee of a GUI designer having an input. - Miss Elle
That's absolutely true, Miss Elle. As independent coders/developers, it can be extremely difficult to find designers that are willing to work for free. If we can't monetize our product (which is entirely possible with open-source, it's just extremely rare), we can't pay a designer. That's why we generally end up designing things ourselves (note - I am not a desktop application developer, I am a Web app developer, but the principle still applies). - Curtiss Grymala
over 100 comments in an hour? - Mike Nencetti
We better stop, otherwise people might think Friendfeed's not dead. :) - Curtiss Grymala
:P Like your input, guys! :) Even people who don't agree with me #lookingAtCristo - directeur
I had a flirting with Unix/Linux when I was in high-school. Then I got my first programming job and it was on Windows... And from that point on it was Windows. It's just what most corporate businesses environments use for the kind of applications that I write. So it makes sense for me to use Windows and not Linux. And I'm more comfortable doing so. I see no reason to switch. - Her Lindsay-ness
(Should be inserted into the discussion, above.) In all fairness to Scribus, when I was Yearbook Adviser (I'm a teacher), we did our entire yearbook in Scribus and it looked just as good as the Adobe InDesign books. I turned out a whole staff of 30 kiddos trained in Scribus who are still using Scribus to this day. (I left that school for another that already had a Yearbook Adviser.) - Miss Elle
Lindsay, why "switch"? Why not use and exepriement, maybe you'll be able to do different tasks better on an OS or another — I mean, give things a try. Or aren't you interested at all? :) - directeur
Yes. I use Crunchbang on the Old Beast (desktop). I have used Linux Mint and Ubuntu previously. Linux seems to work better on the older machine than XP does. - Steven Perez
I don't use Linux, but I do use a lot of open source software (esp., Firefox, GIMP, OpenOffice). - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I do enjoy some of the shared freedom of open source, and web programming. I'm not trapped by 14 years of libraries and portability issues with scala, php or other platform independent tools. I've heard scala/java is actually competitive with c++ for some numerical applications but I have yet to witness this first hand (it's always been slower in my experience) - Mark Essel from iPhone
I use Ubuntu on most machines - my PC and HTPC at home, and my laptop at work. At home I mostly use Firefox, Pidgin and GIMP with UFRaw (which I find perfectly adequate for my personal photography). At work I do software design and development, with Evolution for accessing email from Exchange, and Java and Eclipse as the dev environment. Most of the team has switched over to Ubuntu in recent months because it's faster and more stable than Windows for the work we're doing. - Edward Coffey
Thanks to this thread, I'm going to check out Scribus. - Jason Wehmhoener
@directeur -- Not that you asked, but one of the things I'm doing to help the FLOSS movement is writing non-technical guides or tutorials for how to do basic functions on the software I use. I find that there is a general lack of 8th-grade-level documentation for programs which is why most people aren't adventurous. And it is a small way of giving back since I am not an artist nor a... more... - Miss Elle
Glad it helped, Jason! Folks, I really appreciated that this thread didn't turn into a flame war. Thanks a lot! :) - directeur
I started using Linux around '98. It was fun. I tried a lot of different distros. However, I ended up working in a Microsoft world and began to focus on just using MS. While futzing around and rebuilding my OS was entertaining, I stopped doing that when I also got into gaming. Didn't have the space or money to run dual boot or multi-machines and by the time I did well... my only foray... more... - Arlan Koizumi
Yay! As someone who started out using Pagemaker 4 (and then onto 6.5, then to InDesign), I can say that Scribus is extremely impressive. Also, I felt I should clarify my statement about MS Office earlier. MS Word is really the only Office component I think is much better than open-source alternatives. The rest of Office is either matched or exceeded by open-source software. - Curtiss Grymala
Miss Elle, I HIGHLY respect people like you! Code is a good thing, "educating" people is better IMHO. Thanks for all your work! - directeur
That's awesome and enviable, Miss Elle. I've been tempted to do the same, but never really had enough ambition to follow through. - Curtiss Grymala
StarOffice was awesome. I loved it. I tried getting into GIMP but man, it took a while (and still does >_>). - Arlan Koizumi
I like Eclipse too. That is a great open source app. Doubt many Windows developers use and it unfortunately doesn't do Objective C yet so its not good for Cocoa development on iPhone and Mac yet. If you do Java or C/C++ its awesome across Linux, Mac and Window. - Ed Millard
Eclipse is great. - Jason Wehmhoener
@Arlan -- StarOffice was awesome. I actually really like OO.o 3.x series. I feel like it is getting back to what I wanted from an office suite. Have you checked it out lately? - Miss Elle
Open Office is great, it just fails too often if you have to exchange writable docs with people using Word, or at least is has every time I've used it, the formatting always gets mess up, though maybe I'm a bad doc writter. If you just need to produce PDF's it is great. - Ed Millard
Miss Elle, I might have but it would've been in the Neo Office conversion for Mac. There were a few things that bugged me. I haven't installed much on my Eee PC since getting Ubuntu on there as I mainly used it for social network monitoring, but I'll be sure to give it a looksie. - Arlan Koizumi
For docs, call me an idiot, an old guy or anything, but I think that LaTeX is a very good choice. It's the perfect app which clearly separates content from the form/style. OpenOffice and MS Office do that too, but I really do think that documents rendered with LaTeX are superior in quality. Let alone the ease of exchange, we're talking about simple text files which can be edited anywhere with anything - directeur
I had problems in Neo Office with docs with complex layouts (like my resume) but regular letters translated perfectly between NO and Word. Oh yeah, heard good stuff about LaTex but never tried it. - Arlan Koizumi
That is great and all, but my professor for college english doesn't care that text document is editable anywhere :) - Holden Page from IM
Until OOO properly supports comments and tracked changes, I will still not be able to use it regularly (we use tracked changes for everything at work, and they are an extremely useful feature). I would love to, but I just can't without support for tracked changes. - Curtiss Grymala
Holden, I guess your professor expects a printed doc, right? Also, if you can make your professor smarter, do it! You know in almost any good university some profs often require thesis rendered with LaTeX :) - directeur
As my last word on this subject for the night, you guys should check out http://zwopper.deviantart.com/gallery... While they are all wallpapers, Zwopper does all of his artwork exclusively in the GIMP, and actually does a pretty nice job with quite a few of them. - Curtiss Grymala
@directeur -- My problem with LaTeX was that I never could get it to render into PDF and could never find useful documentation written for my understanding level. - Miss Elle
Absolutelly, Curtis! They're gorgeous! - directeur
Miss Elle, that should be easy actually, do you have pdflatex? - directeur
I don't have nearly as much patience for dicking around with my computer as I used to. Windows works, and when it doesn't, I know how to make it work. i've taken time to learn some linux things, but I just don't have time/patience - Richard Lawler
I've been using Linux as my primary desktop and development environment for a decade now. I could never use Mac OS X or Windows as my primary environment any more. They just don't feel right to me. Linux installs are easier than Windows installs for me and trouble shooting is easier. Some things don't work for me now that I wish did (like using my bluetooth headphones), but everything... more... - Travis B. Hartwell
I use Linux on my home workstation. At work, I use it also as my main workstation, OSX on my laptop, and centos/redhat for the production servers. I'm a big supporter of open source. - imabonehead
Mac OS X didn't really exist a decade ago (unless you used a NeXT machine). It's more honest to just say you're not interested in exploring it or that refined U/X is not the most important issue for you. - Cristo
U/X is not good for me on OS X. There's something -- hard to pinpoint -- I don't know, "fussy" about the UI. I don't like it. I don't care how "refined" it is, or how much usability testing it's a product of. - Christopher A Carr
No argument that it's not for everyone. But using it doesn't mean you don't appreciate Unix or open source either. - Cristo
Ed: I've spent many hours on OS X. I'm used to it. To be "used to" OS X isn't necessarily to love the OS X UI, as Cristo might assume to be the case... - Christopher A Carr
What am I assuming? I don't follow this. - Cristo
I do Ubuntu. Plus I run a whole lot of open source software on Windows. I even like how the Wine compatibility layer allows me to run my Windows programs under Linux (there's a script called winetricks that imports your existing Windows programs' settings into the Wine registry, allowing you to run them without having to reinstall). I was going to triple boot my Dell with FreeDOS, but it (the Dell) is powerful enough that I can just run it emulated under either Windows or Linux. - Dennis Jernberg
Cristo: I get the impression that you suppose that OS X's UI is so wonderful, that if one doesn't care for it, they must simply not be familiar with it. ...just a guess on my part. - Christopher A Carr
This is a linux house for everything but the direct-tv dvr (which may also be linux for all I know), and we are using Ubuntu as the distro of choice. Well, more like that's what I installed, so that's what everyone is using. - Grant Bierman
Christohper, no, I don't assume that. You might have mistaken my response to another commenter as meaning that though. I've seen UI disagreements since the early 80s, so I have no illusions about people having different tastes and biases. In fact, arguments for or against things like the menu bar at the top of the Mac desktop vs menus on windows as many other UIs have grown very... more... - Cristo
no adobe cs for linux - minus-one
Yes, I use FLOSS. No, Linux is not my primary OS - LANjackal
I use GNU/Linux because my work is done on a computer and I need a reliable operating system for that. Another reason is that my OS (I'm using ubuntu) is out-of-the-box, everything works (internet, printer, etc). Third reason, I can adapt my OS to my needs. Fourth reason, I like to keep my options open and GNU/Linux allows me to have all my contents in open formats, this way I feel more secure about accessing those contents in the future. - paula simoes ☃
Everything I've heard tells me that macs are great,I'd love one. But I simply can't afford one that's recent enough to have the capabilities I want. So I dual boot Windows and Mint. Similarly I'm sure Photoshop CS4 is better than GIMP, but for a home user it's ridiculously expensive. The latest versions of Elements and PSP also cost more than I'm able to spend (it's that or prints). It's all as simple as that. As WINE improves the advantages of paying for Windows are decreasing as well. - grraargh
@grraargh I had a mac, some years ago, I had so many problems (mostly hardware) I decided to never have a mac again - paula simoes ☃
well, i've been running free software only, specially gnu/linux for about 11 years,since i get in touch with it when i was working on Lisbon Expo98 world fair; they were using it as mail and web server and it really worked so well that i thought that i had to try (they were using red hat 5.0/5.2) since i like to be different ;) i choose to install SuSE; but what i really liked was it's philosophy, since than i'm a huge fan of Free Livre Software. My favorite Distro, Debian :) - ovigia
Sometimes..! I like Microsoft Applications usually. - ★ Soner Gönül
I do. GNU/Linux is simply the most powerful OS out there, and that's the main reason. Besides, I prefer free software because it's the best software model there is :-) - Marcos Marado
I have been using it for the better part of 9 years. When I first started using it I loved that you really had to get your hands dirty to make every thing to work just right. At the time I thought of it (FreeBSD 4.6) as the most stable programing platform and things like writing my own CVS file and compiling a Kernel for sound were a lot of fun. Later as I started playing with Linux... more... - J. Abdul-Qahhar
Linux is my primary OS. It's the PC that runs my Livingroom entertainment center and my family has adapted to it very well. My wife uses it to surf and handle business and my kids uses it to play games and watch movies...I use it to blog :) - Anthony Farrior
Use Ubuntu and test out its alphas/betas almost every day. - Manuel Mas
My HP laptop has some horrible WiFi problems that lead the machine to lock up. I successfully fixed it on Vista and I haven't been able to make it work on Linux yet. I run a Linux VM for development so I'm happy enough. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes both at work and at home - Ubuntu for desktop and laptop. We use as much open source software as we can - Firefox, Opera, DeskNow, OpenOffice.org, Gimp, Joomla and MaiaCMS (our programmer wrote & release to os community), Our close to 300 public computers are also running a version of Linux (http://groovix.com/) - why? Because we believe in giving our customers the best but also... more... - Mlibrarianus
@Mlibrarianus little correction: Opera is not open source, as well as DeskNow. - Artemko
started learning linux years ago after finding webhosts were cheaper than winnt, and got some personal servers running with debian since it seemed compatible with most any old hardware. now using ubuntu for desktop since it includes recent software versions, and installation and upgrading are a breeze. for anyone that thinks linux desktop looks bad, check out screen shots of the latest visual options http://personal.utulsa.edu/~stuart... - Mike Chelen
I use linux at home and work. Ubuntu on my desktop and laptop. - Necati Demir
I use Ubuntu on the desktop. Have been for several years now. The latest releases have smoothed out most of the user experience glitches, and hardware support mostly just works (it is now frequently the case that Linux supports hardware out-of-the-box where Windows requires a dodgy driver). I find OpenOffice sufficient for most of my needs re: an office suite, but frankly I don't use it... more... - Michael R. Bernstein
Again thank you all for your comments, folks! Really nice to see people with different OSes discuss this subject in such a civilised way! (Which -won't we all agree?- is a rare thing) :) - directeur
I don't use linux because of software compatibility issues (most of my mission-critical apps would have to be reinstalled and there's no compelling reason to do so). I use tons of open source stuff in Windows XP, though. Probably 70% of the software I use is open source, just not the OS. - Steve Lynch from twhirl
Don't remember if I commented or not (and I'm too lazy to dig through 150 comments), but I use Linux mainly on servers. I do have a desktop environment on most of them that I'll use on occasion (I'm partial to KDE). But for the most part, I don't use Linux on the desktop. I run Mac OSX primarily, with a bevy of Open Source apps: Adium, Firefox, Cyberduck, Colloquy and OpenOffice are just a few I use regularly. - Jason Huebel
I always do a Ctrl-F search for "- You" to see if I'm in on a thread ;) - Daniel J. Pritchett
Jason, you'll know if you commented or not if it shows up in your My discussions, or if you liked it, whether it shows up in your comments. - Cristo
I'm browsing the Best of Day list. I didn't "Like", but sometimes I forget to. - Jason Huebel
I run an Ubuntu VM on my macbook pro, but OSX is the primary desktop. On the server, it's Linux all the way. Love open source, but like OSX more. - Deepak Singh
@directeur - just saw your response to my comment and to answer your question: I have so many side projects and things going on with Windows development I don't have the time or energy to devote to the learning curve of another OS. Basically I can't even stand OSX and get majorly frustrated whenever I have to do anything on Tad's or Avynn's Macs, so I figure Linux is out of the... more... - Her Lindsay-ness
This question is very much like asking why you live in a brick apartment building in the city rather than in a log cabin in the woods. My first computer ran Windows 98 and I got used to things being a certain way. My second computer ran WinME and had a very short life, so i took my WinME and installed it on the older computer (it's still running it, and quite stable, although painfully... more... - April Russo (app103)
B-Boy & Daniel: check out the cleaner friendfeed script http://userstyles.org/styles... (via http://friendfeed.com/friendf...) which highlights your own comments making them easier to notice quickly - Mike Chelen
April: thankfully though there is a standard method to install most any software in linux within a few minutes, for free, then have it automatically updated if you like it, or uninstall and move on to the next. there is a lot of good software available, gedit is one example (check out all the useful options if you haven't already), though finding which is best suited to you can take time - Mike Chelen
None of the special purpose signmaking programs like Flexisign run under Linux, thus my workplace uses Windows. I tried Linux on my desktop, it offered me no advantage, and couldn't run the Hipihi, Novoking, or uWorld, or hardly any of the interesting software I read about. Inkscape, probably Linux's best vector illustration program, can't even use an eps file. - SuezanneC Baskerville
Kevin Mohr
Your eye’s not getting enough attention – how about LED eyelashes? - http://www.inquisitr.com/44080...
Wow ... that's uncalled for? - Kevin Mohr
Kevin Mohr
How Happy Are You with Your Carrier's Customer Service? [Ask The Readers] - http://lifehacker.com/5387669...
Oh yeah! - Kevin Mohr
Marissa
Cute pickup line used on me today: "I see you're eating alone. I'm eating alone so lets just eat alone together?" If i didnt have a great BF it may have worked
I just responded, politely, "oh, i'm sorry! maybe some other time, but I'm actually done eating, and I have to go home and finish up my homework." - Marissa
awww lol!!! - Simply Teeeya
poor guy ... - Kevin Mohr
almost feel bad for him - Holden Page
ha, no need...i was nice about it. and i honestly WAS almost done eating - Marissa
That was mean, I would have killed myself if you did it to me. :P - Faraz Mullick
haha no, i was nice about it, i told him we could grab lunch another time - Marissa
Kevin Mohr
MySpace’s Tom Joins Facebook [PIC] - http://mashable.com/2009...
not uh - Holden Page
yeah, it's an elaborate joke ... - Kevin Mohr
Marissa
I GOT THE JOB...AND I'M TAKING IT =D
Sweeeeet! ...Unless you'd rather be unemployed, then bummer but way to go. - SAM
Congrats Marissa, gee it seems to be your week this week... Except for the sitter money =P - Travis Koger from iPhone
nice. - Kevin Mohr
Congrats - RAPatton from iPhone
thanks ya'll - Marissa
LANjackal
I am *this* close to blocking a certain tech celebrity on FriendFeed ... seriously, dude?
You too? I am really close to unsubscribing ... - Kevin Mohr from Android
I take it we're talking about the same person, lol? - LANjackal
The thing is, he so many of his subscribers are in my home feed that every post of his they like or comment on winds up in my home feed too. I've actually blocked him before because 95% of what he posted was totally useless but got a million likes and comments. Now I'm considering doing so because I can't stand his bitching and negativity about FriendFeed. Especially when he has no alternative service to offer. - LANjackal
Sorry. I'll stop ranting now... :P - Johnny Worthington
Who? - orionstarr from iPhone
It's NOT you, Johnny ... and I think you know that - LANjackal
It's cyclic, man. Remember a few months ago he was all down on twitter? He'll eventually move on hyping Facebook, about how all his followers should follow him there, then he'll come back to Friendfeed, and the cycle repeats itself. However, I find it annoying too. On the other hand, I continuously have good days of valuable interaction on Friendfeed. - Andy Bakun
Same here. If he isn't going to participate in the conversation here and say FF is dead, then go elsewhere... - Kevin Mohr from Android
Kinda reminds me of the people back in college who'd show up to a party and bitch about how much it sucked and how it wasn't their type of crowd, etc ... when no one was forcing them to show up or stay. If you don't like it here, there's the door. But don't flood the community with unnecessarily negative vibes - LANjackal
That son of a.... - orionstarr from iPhone
@Andy: that was what flipped me out just now and prompted this OP. I couldn't believe that he's hyping Twitter as the place to hang out now when a couple months back he was saying the exact opposite. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but not to credibility. And IMO he's lost all of the latter - LANjackal
I can still get plenty of information from FriendFeed even if I unsubscribe ... - Kevin Mohr
I know, that's why I said "block". I really don't have any interest in what he has to say any more - LANjackal
I've had it and I wrote a letter of complaint to the CEO of FF. No worries that son of a bitch is gone.. - orionstarr from iPhone
Unsubscribed :) - Kevin Mohr
I'm sorry - Shey, Jamaican of FF from iPhone
LOL it's not you either, Shey :) - LANjackal
Ironically his bark, sparks life to the core community. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
In this case, it's absolutely toxic IMO - LANjackal
Maybe a little poison didn't hurt this time around. But I'll continue to argue the point on his threads. - Dennis Jernberg
@Lanjackal I am sometimes thinking the same about those people whinning about friendfeed is dying? Or don't you mean that? - alfred westerveld
Yeah I think the same as you do :) - LANjackal from IM
MG Siegler
I see Tom Brady had a pretty damn good game. #fantasy
The understatement of the year - Curtiss Grymala
That is putting it mildly. - Kevin Mohr
Kevin Mohr
Finland Becomes First Country To Declare Broadband Access A Legal Right - http://www.inquisitr.com/42604...
as it should be .... - Kevin Mohr
Kevin Mohr
Wireless Revolution: Wi-Fi Between Devices Coming in 2010 - http://mashable.com/2009...
This sounds awesome! - Kevin Mohr
LANjackal
OMG this girl I kissed last nite tagged me in a pic of an SMS NOTIFICATION on her fone WTF. Good news or psycho?
Psycho - Jimminy
Psycho. But then again , aren't they all? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from fftogo
Cool bc she's HOT. I'm taking the bait. You guys can show up to my funeral if you want :P - LANjackal
Where's the pic? - imabonehead
on Facebook - LANjackal from IM
Just wait til you screw up and call her the wrong name, I'd keep an eye on your crotch. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news... - Jimminy
She lives 2h away ... who knows - LANjackal from IM
Uhm...yeah. She might be Nucking Futs. Watch your nuts. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
That's a bit odd, yeah... - Amy
LAN... Ruuuuuuuunnnnnnnn! - Travis Koger from iPhone
But she's so hot u guys. 6ft blonde, amazing legs, plays volleyball, college grad and schoolteacher ... rawr. I'll bear all of the above in mind, we'll see how it goes - LANjackal
Volleyball? - Kevin Mohr
Yes. You and I know that's the best sport (along with soccer) to date :). I always knew that's why you went to the Purdue games. All those nice ass girls running around in dem lil shorts jumping up and down. I got a song for ya actually - LANjackal from IM
Song was good ... you should get with that girl btw ... lol. - Kevin Mohr
I'd love to. But she told me last night that she doesn't really want a relationship right now (she's one of those girls I'd HAVE to date, not just hook up with). Hopefully I can convince her otherwise in the coming months (she lives 2h away) - LANjackal from IM
Wait until she starts posting about you on FriendFeed. - Cristo
Ha NO WAY, I learn from example dude :-X :-X l-oooooooooo-l - LANjackal from IM
Your mug is going to have it's own public room dedicated to it. - Cristo
I'm nowhere near famous enough for that. YOU, on the other hand ... - LANjackal
She didn't tag me. - Cristo
Everything I've mentioned is on FB, not FF. I've physically met only 2 people IRL who know FF exists, and she's not 1 of them - LANjackal
imabonehead
My G1 upgraded to Android 1.6 without any hitches. :)
Me, too! (Edited to add my myTouch 3G upgraded with no issues.) - Joe Bonner
My myTouch upgraded without issue as well! - Wayne Bentz
I've only had the update for a few hours, but it seems to be less laggy, and a bit zippier, especially when switching from one home screen to the next. - Joe Bonner
Android FTW! :) - imabonehead
The Android Market looks very spiffy with this release. - imabonehead
I think every problem I had with the browser has been fixed. Sluggish returning to the browser from an IM or text message, home screen delay after a longish browsing session, and having to clear the browser history to reduce general lag (although this didn't help a whole lot). Definitely a good update. - Andy Bakun
Mine upgraded fine as well ... now if all the apps I have worked with 1.6 ... - Kevin Mohr
the battery drains much faster with 1.6. did someone else encounter the same problem? - Mario
I haven't noticed any issues with the battery, but I also just installed WiSyncPlus (http://www.gearsoft.mobi/wisyncp...). The new battery usage display has been a real eye opener, though. - Joe Bonner
thanks for the answer, joe. the new battery usage display is very handy, indeed :) - Mario
I couldn't get Wifi Tether to work anymore, but the move to PdaNet was somewhat pain-free. - John Mueller
Mario, I'm taken aback that my display is responsible for more than 40% of my battery's drain since I unplugged it this morning (about 6 hours ago). - Joe Bonner
Kevin Mohr
Notehall Wants To Be The eBay For Lecture Notes - http://www.inquisitr.com/41094...
Really? - Kevin Mohr
Marissa
well...since im not doing my paper about the moon landing (lol) what SHOULD i do it on? something unique and contraversial with enough information out there on it
Legalization of Marijauna, always controversial. - Jimminy
hah! someone is already doing that one...its college (dude) - Marissa
Jimminy it is not controversial in a state that ALLOWS medical marijuana (MI). - Joe
How nuclear power is a great solution to today's energy problems and how GreenPeace is being just a major dick in being against it. - Maxamad (Amazigh)
Joe, at the national level it's still controversial. I'm assuming she wants something that is generally controversial. - Jimminy
lol idk about the nuclear energy... - Marissa
Why cars from 1994 had better fuel efficiency than the hybrids of today. - Jimminy
^thats a good one, sounds like a lot of work though - Marissa
Here is some info. http://ff.im/8euVn - Jimminy
The basic cause is the increase in safety precautions which resulted in additional weight, thus reducing the total distance a car can go on the same amount of fuel. - Jimminy
That 9/11 was a conspiracy and the buildings were part of a controlled demolition? - Cristo
Pulling all US forces from Afghanistan. - Joe
i dont want to do anything with the military, that just pisses too many people off - Marissa
capital punishment, abortion, or creationism ... not so unique I suppose - Kevin Mohr
Why not advocate that the U.P. succeed from the rest of MI and become its own state? - Joe
haha thats a good one. kevin yours are already taken lol - Marissa
Is the web making people dumber? - Kevin Mohr
i think someone may be doing that one...i read somewhere that my generation has different thumbs than my parents generation, because they evolved for texting - Marissa
Thumbs? - Joe
Is this for a freshman English comp class? - Christopher A Carr
Uh, Marissa -- do you suppose there's some differential reproduction associated with texting proficiency? - Christopher A Carr
I am out of ideas ... - Kevin Mohr
yes, this is for my english 101 class. - Marissa
i was thinking about doing it on how prisoners get so many benefits... - Marissa
and chirs, what do you mean? - Marissa
You were kidding about the texting-adapted thumbs, correct? - Christopher A Carr
Marissa, did you just suggest evolution occurred in less than one generation, I can assure you our thumbs haven't changed, texting wasn't around when we were born thus there was no reason for a genetic mutation to occur changing out thumbs. Evolution takes 10's or 100's of generations. - Jimminy
Those with thumbs more suited to texting would have to out-reproduce those with thumbs less suited to texting. - Christopher A Carr
Marissa's notion isn't even Lamarckian, as presumably this generation's parents weren't doing any texting in their youth. - Christopher A Carr
Christopher, I think it was a joke after rereading, she was replying to Kevin's remark about the internet making us stupider, either that or she was proving that point. - Jimminy
Ah, ok. I suppose I should have read the thread. - Christopher A Carr
Christopher, I'm also not sure if she was being facetious or not, the remark is still hard to determine. - Jimminy
Yeah. Were she being facetious, she probably would have understood my query about texting and reproduction. - Christopher A Carr
all i was saying was that i read it somewhere. lol. i wansnt implying anything, just that i read it. hehe and i thought it was funny - Marissa
What are the topic choices Marissa, what are your favorite subjects/topics? - Mark Essel
So you know, Marissa, that's utter nonsense. - Christopher A Carr
I'd write about the collapse of old industries, and the rise of new ones from their ashes. Blame the internet for everything too. - Mark Essel
Mark, do you mean which of the ones that have been suggested are my favorites? or just in general what are my interests - Marissa
You could write a paper about American's issues with evolution being largely a product of their complete lack of understanding of the basic tenets of biological evolution. - Christopher A Carr
chris, yes, i dont think our thumbs are different, i just think i am more active in texting than my parents so i am better/faster - Marissa
Both, pick a topic you love to talk about or are passionate about. Social media? - Mark Essel
Read your favorite bloggers, they always give me great inspiration for my blogging/writing. Or read my blog, woohoo self plug! http://www.victusspiritus.com - Mark Essel
actually, Mark, I am technologically retarded...so not social media. I love writing and and learning about psychology....i also have a blog http://marissaology.com woohoo another self plug - Marissa
Evolutionary psychology is quite controversial. You could assert the basic correctness of the EP approach, and in so doing, trash the Standard Social Science Model. - Christopher A Carr
that sounds like alot more than 3 pages, maybe i'll save that one for the research paper, because that is a good idea - Marissa
Yeah. That's a bit much for 3 pages. - Christopher A Carr
The 99% pure Water found on Mars. - Garin Kilpatrick
hmmm maybe. and yes, christopher, def more than three pages - Marissa
What about the 99% pure water found on Mars? - Christopher A Carr
There's reason to believe that the Viking Lander would have hit water had it dug a few inches deeper back in '76. You could argue that we might very well have landed a person on Mars by now had it found water: http://www.wired.com/wiredsc... - Christopher A Carr
But Christopher, it's very unlikely that we would actually have sent a human to Mars, even with our current exercise regimen it's highly doubtful that anyone's muscles could stand the 6 month voyage in a low gravity environment. With out the gravitational forces muscles begin to weaken after just a few days. - Jimminy
whoakay.... this conversation just got a little too smart for me ;] - Marissa
Marissa, no it's not it just looks like it, in a low gravity environment, your muscles don't get any work. Same effect as if you want to build muscle you have to use them and work them out, and when you stop they start shrinking. - Jimminy
yeah, i guess - Marissa
3 pages. All this for 3 pages. Start writing! Less chatter more splatter - Mark Essel
read your post from Sept. glad everything worked out since your busy working on your school work now.... - Mark Essel
Jimminy: Russians have been in micrograv that long, no? We can spin the living compartment or put people in a centrifuge for part of the day. - Christopher A Carr
Christopher, up to this point only one person has spent more than 120 days continuously in space, of course he was up there for 438 days. It's not a reasonable assumption assuming that the people on the vessel would also have to make a return trip, even if there was water on Mars there wouldn't be enough food. And considering the main reason we are able to make return trips from the... more... - Jimminy
Jimminy: I was suggesting that she make that claim for the sake of argumentation -- for her paper. I don't think we would have put a person on the surface by now, though I think manned flights to orbit Mars for better control of robots might have happened. Obviously your objections have occurred to other people. We wouldn't bring all the fuel and food with us. Mars in situ propellant and food production would be required. - Christopher A Carr
Matt Cutts
30 day challenge for October: No Microsoft Software - http://www.mattcutts.com/blog...
Also about 20 seconds from publishing to FriendFeed. This near-real-time stuff could be big. :) - Matt Cutts
Are you running 32 or 64-bit Ubuntu? I have no problems running Flash 10, Adobe Air, and Chromium on my 64-bit Ubuntu (use it on my main home and work OS). - imabonehead from Android
Good luck! - Nathan Snyder
I like this challenge and am pretty much there OS excluded. - Jim Littlefield
At home I'm just running the stock 9.04 (I think it's 32 bit). Everything works great, including Chrome. - Matt Cutts
Best. Idea. Ever. - Kevin Mohr
But Matt, how ever will you host your Windows 7 Launch party? ( http://www.houseparty.com/windows... ) - Doug
Be careful. There are lots of websites you can't visit (windows servers). No xbox. Don't look at the terminal screens in airports or most other places. Self-checkout at the grocery? Busted. - Greg Grothaus
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