"It’s comparable to Google Docs or a wiki, but it’s far more useful. You start off by creating a new workspace. You type basic text on numbered lines at will. Then invite someone else in and have them type as well. Each user’s edits are highlighted a different color. Changes are made in absolute real time, something even Google hasn’t been able to do (Google docs update every fifteen seconds). Users can also chat in the sidebar, save versions and make a few tweaks to the settings like removing line numbers. One great feature optionally highlights Javascript syntax (making this a great way to write code collaboratively)"
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Etherpad may be a new tool in the Real Time Web kit. Collaboration on a non-flow basis.
- Cliff Gerrish
Interesting - wasn't sure if AppJet was a worthwhile platform - this makes me much more interested
- Christopher Galtenberg
Getting this for your try it link Paul: "EtherPad is under construction ... Sign up to be notified when we're back"
- Philipp Lenssen
Try again, Philipp (nice icon btw). I think their fail whale is that signup box (not a bad idea, actually)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Now it works thanks Christopher (it shows me as being alone in that document right now though).
- Philipp Lenssen
Nice, a little slow, but I guess they shouldn't be waiting for all this traffic... Should be a nice tool once it adds other wiki-like functionalities (I'm thinking tiddlywiki).
- Paulo Gomes
Love the tiddlywiki shoutout. (When will that tech come back to earth? So much potential)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Oops, system failure again. We think we found the problem though. A nasty deadlock issue -- but hopefully fixable in short order.
- Aaron Iba
Cheers Aaron. It's a huge hit here. And wow, hello AppJet! Nice tech, amigo.
- Christopher Galtenberg
An interesting experience, to have typing and the other party reading be simultaneous... it removes the safety buffer of having to hit return, and has a different feel to it. Your sentence is seen by the other person as you're typing, correcting, shifting it... like when you're actually speaking in a conversation, where you may also correct yourself, look for words, etc.
- Philipp Lenssen
superb substitute for paste in IRC on-the-fly collaborative coding situations: revisions acts as "version control," and multi-color highlighting representing users even works intra-line.
- Adriano
I do just want to point out that this functionality has been around for 25 years with UNIX's talk program. It is definitely not a new idea.
- Robert Felty
Why stop there... Native Americans sent simultaneous smoke signals into the sky. And you thought they were innovators? Nope, just rank copycats. Birdsong. That's where it all began.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Superb execution of an old idea is every bit as good as innovation; perhaps better.
- kris. nuttycombe
SubEthaEdit. It existed years before Writely (Google Docs) and this web app is an almost exact copy of it.
- Bill Strathearn
Bill, Wikipedia says "SubEthaEdit is a collaborative real-time editor designed for Mac OS X," so it's not a browser-based app?
- Philipp Lenssen
That's right, SubEthaEdit is a native Mac app, so Mr. Strathearn is completely missing the point, as are most of the "this is nothing new, I used to do this with my 300 baud modem" crowd.
- ⓞnor
Of course the platform is different, but the interface and functionality are obvious copies. http://bit.ly/P5Se. Given the large time-span between the two, I just expected a bit more innovation.
- Bill Strathearn
"Those kind of movies?" There is no those kind. That's the only one ever made. Then or now. (But the best of Disney animation comes close)
- Michael Markman
I just meant movies that are good for kids but get deeper as you get more mature - Wizard of Oz, Mary Poppins, many of the Pixar films, and yes, some of Disney's animated features.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
"Use the Meraki Wall Plug to cover large indoor areas with unparalleled speed. Simply plug it in to existing wall outlets to expand your network."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I have a Belkin wireless repeater which is not as stylish, but works pretty well. Sometimes it can be a bit of a pain to get it to find the router if there was a power outage. I believe it was about $50, instead of the $179 Meraki wants. But after looking at open-mesh, that looks even better. Thanks for the info John.
- Robert Felty
Rob, who's to say that the Meraki wouldn't have similar trouble?
- Gabe
Meraki is not a simple repeater -- it forms a mesh using any number of nodes and gateways. They're mostly targeted towards apartment buildings, towns, and other medium sized installations. Gabe, they specifically mention a hardware watchdog to deal with power glitch induced problems.
- Paul Buchheit
@Paul - but is Meraki better than open-mesh?
- Robert Felty
I don't know anything about open-mesh Rob, but the Meraki team is really sharp, so I would bet that they are better.
- Paul Buchheit
Meraki and Open-Mesh use the same Accton hardware, but Open-Mesh uses opensource software based upon the same OpenWRT platform. See http://DailyWireless.org/2008... I posted the wrong link earlier.
- John Lam
It's really weird but they don't explain what it does on that page. It's as if you're supposed to already understand. What does it do? Now -- if my life depended on it, here's what I would guess that it does. 1. You have to buy two, no point buying just one. 2. You plug one of them close to your wireless router, plug the other one as far away as you like but on the same electric circuit. Now you'll have a strong wifi signal near the second one too. 3. Repeat as long as you're on the same circuit.
- Dave Winer
Now if that's what it does, what do they do (if anything) about older houses (like mine) with many circuits? I found I couldn't use similar technology (if it is similar) because of that problem. They really ought to explain the product not just the problem. In the end I just hired a contractor to put in wire, it was reasonably priced (actually not much more than the boxes) and works really well and is faster than wifi.
- Dave Winer
Dave, in the time you took to complain, you could have clicked the “Spec” tab on the page Paul posted. Both Meraki and Open-Mesh make a mesh WiFi router based upon older MIT RoofNet principles. For 25 years, i think, i've read your commentary and articles. Please don't get lazy on me!
- John Lam
Japanese sushi chef and show off, Ken Kawasumi, opted to recreate Van Gogh’s Sunflowers with sushi. Which, while far from a facsimile, is still a fair effort considering it’s made of fish.
- Jess Lee
This thing is taking off like wildfire, although I guess it's been around for a while. I probably just missed it the first time around, being my non-trendy self. Upside down memetagging, anyone? (Yes, I'm kidding.)
- Ontario Emperor
I love that there is a dog t-shirt for friendfeed. I can already see all the dogs at Glenbrook in those this year...hahaha. Oh, and Papa Earl will be wearing the apron of course.
- Emily Miller
That looks really cool. I wish they integrated it into Gmail. I like the "Open in Google Docs" thing Gmail has now, but preserving the layout would be wonderful. The article says Scribd can't copy/paste now, though, which is an obviously glaring issue.
- Bret Taylor
Soon, everything will be integrated with everything else, and I really think it's concepts like friendfeed that will be a large part of the mechanism of that integration. After all, isn't it already a semi-autonomous management agent, responsible for filtering and delivering memes, directly into your brain.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane