شاندیز من یه سوال دارم چون تو قدیمی هستی شاید بدونی جوابش رو، یکسری ها اینجا هستند من رو فالو میکنن، فید هام رو لایک میزنن اما درخواست اشتراک آدم رو میزارن تو آب نمک، این یه جور چس کلاس فرند فیدیه؟!!×
- ѕнαнιη
نه ببم جان، اولا که من فید تو رو دارم فالو میکنم ثانیا فکر میکنم فید تو اصلا خصوصی نبود... منظورم یکسریهایی هست فیدشون خصوصیه حالا دنبال مورد نگرد...
- ѕнαнιη
شاهین اولا EQ نه و IQ. دوما ...؟ یادم رفت چی میخوام بگم.. IQ رو میبینی
- فریاد
نمی دونم شاهین / من نمی تونم قضاوتی به مردم کنم راستشو بخوای / خودم هم پالیک بودم الان پرایوت شدم چون هی بهم هشدار دادن :| وگرنه حالم از این قفل بد می شه
- Shandiz
+Anne--Right about the time I forget about this, it shows up again. Too funny.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
interesting. I've tried a few times to get animated images to work on FF without success.. I guess piping it through twitpic might be the answer!
- veo
veo, yeah Twitpic, RSS (MediaRSS), Delicious, Tumblr all seem to work. There are more than that but those come to mind.
- Josh Haley
Just one question, Josh: are you by chance spinning on 9 different Aeron chairs that were a steal after the first dot-com bubble burst? The future of the internets: you're looking at it =)
- Micah Wittman
could anybody describe how to create such a picture? thx
- Arnaud Fischer
Arnaud, see http://friendfeed.com/mokarga... for tips. And Josh correct me if I'm wrong, he uploaded to Twitpic the same animated GIF 9 times, then created a friendfeed post and attached all 9 images by URL (instead of choosing images from his hard drive). Images coming from twitpic, soup.io, etc will animate, but photos hosted by friendfeed itself won't.
- Micah Wittman
Did not sleep well with all the spinning. :p
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
It's infinitely more amusing when they don't all load at the same time. Spinning chaos!!!
- CAJ, somewhere else
Why the friendfeed limitation on animated .gifs? It seems arbitrary and odd to me. I could see wanting to limit filesize (animated .gifs can get large) but you can upload huge .jpgs without any trouble.
- veo
Mesmerizing like a lava lamp. Hey! You are a 'Lame-o Lamp'! And you might want to call the folks in the makeup department and get that forehead de-sheened. Remember, your forehead is an alternate landing site for the Space Shuttle - And you don't want to blind the crew on their final approach, do you? :-)
- Morgan Haley
Good luck trying to land anything on that while it's moving. :p I can always count on my brother.
- Josh Haley
OMG! That should be the next installment at some fluecy deucy art museum!!! AWESOME. :) It's like whack-a-mole... I keep trying to figure out which one will show your face next and for some reason I'm always wrong.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Thanks, Lindsay! :) I think that's the first time someone described wanting to systematically hit me on the head repeatedly, yet have it come off as a compliment. I would love to take credit like I was Andy Warhol or something, but alas I was just tired and felt like doing something silly. :p
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
yep, what Lindsay said. That was one of the first bona-fide instances I've seen of using Friendfeed as a medium for net art. You could get in the Whitney & stuff. GOOD JOB
- Kamilah Gill
LOL! I actually didn't mean it the way it came out (the hitting you on the head part, the compliment part is ok ;)). But I'm in tears laughing when I read your reply. Whack-a-mole always frustrated the heck out of me... I did a lot more staring than hitting when I tried to play. It was mesmerizing.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
you wait - the scary part of this comes when one of these ffoodoo heads stops turning, starts grimmacing and talking to you ..... have you seen one of these heads actually get up off the chair and curse the world??? ... the seeming dissynchronicity, the haphazard discord with which these dollheads turn might drive you ...nuts
- Petr Buben
In SPARQL, SELECT is actually known as a query form, and another is CONSTRUCT. According to the SPARQL Query Language for RDF W3C Recommendation, CONSTRUCT returns a graph—a set of triples. I had thought of CONSTRUCT as a way of pulling a set of triples out of a triplestore, especially a remote triplestore, but while reviewing some TopQuadrant training material I realized how handy CONSTRUCT can be to create useful new triples. (...) CONSTRUCT provides a nice example of how SPARQL is more than a query language; along with extracting data using queries, you can create useful new data as well.
- cyberlabe
I always figured FriendFeed would get something out like this first with some kind of auto-embeddable widget. Echo looks great though, and I can't wait to get in on http://punchingkitty.com
- Mike Flynn
I love the idea, it looks like a great resource
- Scott Klauminzer
I just wanted to say that this Echo uses alot of CPU cycles. I am using Google Chrome and every time the page updates I get lag. Maybe its just my system?
- Mark
it's very slow - and fails out when trying to login with Google Profile
- andy brudtkuhl
its a wonderful service, but, yes, seems a little slow. Clicking on the emoticon box caused it to have a minor stroke on my pc
- Mark
@Mark please email me details about your PC setup (browser etc etc) to chris@js-kit.com so we can track down the issue for you
- Chris Saad
Seems a great idea and really works well. Nice functionality! However, I only think it could be useful for news sites (e.g. techcrunch that are commment-insensitive. Realtime matters for them.
- Kris
"paid by the minute" - there you planted a thought, Robert ;) I still associate all the more advanced features with the possibilies of Google-Wave as the underlying infrastructure for these 'real-time'-blogging/commenting elements. What will become more important for mortals is how are ordinary people going to learn to devide the 'noise' from the 'signals'? How are you managing the...
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- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
It will probably get a bit quicker as time goes on
- Robert D'Alesio
speed was an issue for both disqus and intense debate at various points in their history.. it does seem a bit slow to load at first but looks like its cached after. Given this is the first site and its not completely launched it sounds like they might have some work to do on performance?
- Riaz Kanani
but after it is cached pulling in a long list of comments is speedy..
- Riaz Kanani
Many companies, says Chief Executive Eric Schmidt, can skirt downturns entirely by coming up with innovations that change the game in their industries—or create new ones. (When asked if Google's strategy would change as the economy heads into a likely recession, he replied: "What recession?") In a recent interview in a tiny meeting room next to his Mountain View (Calif.) office, Schmidt told BusinessWeek Silicon Valley Bureau Chief Robert D. Hof how Google manages the tricky process of innovation.
- Hutch Carpenter
"Innovation comes from places that you don't expect. "
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
Frankie I've been saying that for a long time, but no one listens. :-( Delicious pioneered this concept.
- Jesse Stay
I could never lose my Firefox delicious plugin though.
- mikepk
Mike, I can do the same with a simple bookmarklet on FriendFeed, and include images with my shares/bookmarks, across multiple browsers, along with attach files with it. Kills anything Delicious can do.
- Jesse Stay
As long as the bookmarklet can do completion on previous tags I have used, that would be interesting.
- Travis B. Hartwell
But it also needs to have an interface for easy browsing of prior bookmarks, that's the true value of delicious
- Travis B. Hartwell
The plugin is so seamless though. Tag completion / suggestion along with the sidebar that pops up for searching, etc... You might be able to mimic some of the functionality, but it wouldn't be as integrated. If someone put together a Firefox plugin to make it work I might consider it. :)
- mikepk
Travis, that's what FriendFeed rooms are for. Organize how you like, by room. Tagging would be nice, too though.
- Jesse Stay
Mike, but Firefox isn't seamless. :-) And I don't use Firefox.
- Jesse Stay
Travis, that's my thought, at least until FriendFeed creates a tagging infrastructure of some sort.
- Jesse Stay
FriendFeed's search is powerful enough tagging almost wouldn't be necessary if you just used common words in each bookmark
- Jesse Stay
But seriously, the only thing I use Delicious for nowadays is for saving past mentions of my blog posts. I could do that in FriendFeed rooms pretty easily, and with graphics, using the FriendFeed bookmarklet.
- Jesse Stay
I still use delicious heavily for keeping track of things I want to go back and refer to.
- Travis B. Hartwell
But this would be an interesting experiment, let me know how it goes. :)
- Travis B. Hartwell
Travis you could do the same with FriendFeed. I think the FriendFeed search is more powerful.
- Jesse Stay
Travis, on FriendFeed, they are Rooms.
- Jesse Stay
Maybe I'm being blind...I can't see Rooms mentioned anywhere....on my right sidebar I'm seeing a box for Groups, like building43. How do I create a room?
- Travis B. Hartwell
The terminology is different all over friendfeed, but they're the same thing.
- Jesse Stay
get the best of both worlds... let people enter hashtags... but when submitted, convert them to tags, and remove the ugliness!
- Tim Hoeck
Travis: your guess was correct... "Groups" used to be named "Rooms" but friendfeed changed the terminology to alleviate confusion. It's kinda like how i still call facebook "thefacebook.com" to show I'm old school ;)
- Frankie Warren
@Roger, I agree with you. For a BLACK one-piece, that is pretty frickin' hot.
- Carloe Stamp
I prefer the turquoise myself, but daaaaaaaamn... I just looked at the price tag! For $300, it had better come with the personal trainer it'll take to wear it properly.
- Roger Benningfield
Jess, one pieces are classy. And you'd get a lot of attention in this one :)
- Rob Schonberger
Might as well advertise "All wrapped up & ready to be unwrapped" ;-))
- ianf ⌘
This is an excellent example of how sexy works. It's all about how likely a revealing accident is or how easy the outfit looks like it could come off and not about how much skin is shown. Even a burqua could be made sexy in this fashion.
- Wirehead
yeah, i just needed to revisit this thread and say this is both elegant and fucking hot (sorry for the expletive, but that's just how hot i think it is)
- Cee Bee
Am I the only one who finds it humorous that this thread started out with informed fashion advice like the original poster asked for and has degraded into sexual innuendo during the course of the day? Is this reflective of the FF community's mood as the day progresses or just the inevitable conclusion of any post of bikini photos from a woman?
- Bill Strathearn
Not having read the other comments, wouldn't this be atrocious to get on? I have a hard enough time with my tankini top, and that's just 2 crossed strings!
- Heather
Bill, the second comment referenced bondage...
- Andrew C
um....um....um.....OH THE SUIT! Yep, definite buy.
- Joel Robert Perez
It can't be /that/ hard to get into. Topologically, can't you just treat it like a regular one-piece?
- Andrew C
I love all the guys opining on how to get in and out of this bathing suit. GUFFAW.
- Derrick
The theory is sound. =) Edit: I mean, I've gotten into snow suits before, which are topologically equivalent. =)
- Andrew C
I'm happy to offer a contrastingly unfashionable / unsexy comment. Holy crapola$ batwoman, I know what industry I'm getting into if I ever leave Google. Cost of material:18 cents. Cost of labor from, say, Thailand or Bangaladesh: 6 cents. Price some women (or their sig-o's) will pay for it: $300. Profit margin: Priceless.
- Adam Lasnik
なんというか、ちょっと倒錯的な目で見るとエロいかも。具体的には、縄で締め付けられる女性の背中にエロスを感じるような目で。
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
Changing my answer to No... it's not worth $280...
- Bindu Reddy
I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who could get it for you for cheaper!!!
- Amani
It's very original and I love that so yes you should buy it.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
very shibari from the back, kind of plain from the front. huh.
- David
David - so it's the swimsuit reverse mullet!
- Andrew C
Ok, I might be revealing too much, but this design reminds me of something Diana Eng designed on Project Runway. (I watched Project Runway? I just lost -10 man points. :) )
- Ray Cromwell
You can, but if you do, I'll tell Jesus. Naa. Go ahead. He or she has got enough to worry about.
- david beckwith
"IBM is involved in some very interesting projects at the intersection of two big trends we've been tracking in 2009: The Real-time Web and Internet of Things. They have a website devoted to this topic, called A Smarter Planet. As the name implies, it focuses on environmental matters such as energy and food systems. Sensors, RFID tags and real-time messaging software are major parts of IBM's smarter planet strategy. The catchcry for the site - Instrumented, Interconnected, and Intelligent - is about outfitting the world with sensors and hooking them to the Internet to apply the 'smarts.'"
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
One thing. Twitter's value isn't just in the messages, it is in the following/follower graphs. And all the metadata that sits outside the message.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Very clever. So would the 140-char message itself BE the link? So the mp3 would be accessed by clicking the message rather than a seperate URL taking up some of the 140 chars?
- Mark
You've seen the Google Social Graph API though yeah? With XFN and FOAF it's easy to declare and determine relationships in a decentralized way. Right now it only works for public relationships though.
- Brett Slatkin
from email
Scoble, and the follower/following graph is the hard part - messaging + the format is nothing without a transport / platform that knows where to push those messages. And when like twitter you have users with 1+ million followers - that is a massive technical challenge that nobody has solved in a distributed fashion
- Nick Halstead
People with 1-million-plus followers are going to have a hefty Amazon EC2 bill. As they should. (Or they can use Twitter, if they can find a way to pay for everyone who uses it.)
- Dave Winer
Why do you want an OPML for Twitter? Where do you want to import it?
- Dave Winer
I think OPML could be good for importing Twitter to Snackr (The latest test version can be synced with Google Reader using OPML) I like using it for the casual glance @ the ticker tape while I work. It's not as immediate (feed refresh is slow) but it would cut down the time suckage if I still wanted to keep a slightly less frenzied eye on twitter.
- BairdWilliamson
The first thing I noticed was how the surrounding XML seemed larger than the message itself. :)
- Ray Cromwell
I wrote a quick and dirty OPML exporter for Twitter. I'll put a little polish on it in the morning and put it up as a web app.
- Dave Winer
I may/must have missed something vital, but there's one thing I don't get. Since the ensuing Twitter-length RSS-item, message + envelope, is well above 140 characters, and thus can not be displayed as-is as an SMS (which, among other things, once was one of Twitter's killer features), why continue with that artificial limit at all? It's not as if the Cloud, be it RssCloud.org's or other, will not support messages where the <description> part is more than that. So what's the justification here?
- ianf ⌘
SMS support for twitter is going to be a dead issue soon enough, glad to see people thinking about metadata and enclosures. I wish all url shortening services would go away, terrible idea which unfortunately got popular despite all the downsides.
- Dave Evans
I barely use Twitter, but I always felt that the very audacity of building a SMS-length global instant messaging service was sheer genius. I understand the cellphone push never worked (or not for long) outside USA/ Canada and perhaps the UK. But the possibility of using SMS for input has a lot of merit whether Twitter streams are then delivered to cell phones, or not.
- ianf ⌘
I'd like to see Twitter foaf'd out.
- barce
from iPhone
@Dave Evans. what makes you say that ("SMS support for twitter is going to be a dead issue soon enough")? In contrast to that, here's what one "VC from NYC" has to say about it: "I believe that Twitter's native implementation of sms is an important part of its success. The 140 character limit was driven by the 160 character limit of sms and the initial design of the service put sms...
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- ianf ⌘
Thanks! You gotta help these guys getting local access numbers to spread their services internationally. Might also expose Voxeo to more and different type of devs. :-) Ralf
- Ralf Rottmann
from email
I used to think the same, but some people just sign up and leave. Looks like he did too.
- Josh Haley
It would be great to have him back. He is an awesome machine on Twitter (with almost all links to Alltop, of course).
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I don't see why it's so shameful. So he doesn't like using this particular service. Is there a law that says he has to? Obviously 10,000+ people don't mind. So leaving his account seems to be of value to some.
- pea
Meh. People spend too much time focusing on superstars. (I assume he's a superstar?) I'd rather focus on people who actually interact. But that's just my take on it.
- Derrick
Yeah, I don't think we mind. I meant it's shameful that Guy, who's supposedly a social media guru doesn't see how much more value he could get out of those 10k subscribers.
- Jorge Escobar
What do you mean by value? And how much more value could he get out of people here than on Twitter? (I'm assuming he's more active on Twitter though doesn't he also have ghost Twitterers? I think I read that somewhere.) And once you get to that many people subbing to you, how do you possibly interact with enough of them to gain "value" from them? I don't have answers to any of these questions. They're just popping into my head as I type. :D
- pea
I would only find it shameful if he were reporting on FF when he's obviously not actually using the service first hand. If he's not reporting on it, then he can do what he wants with his feed.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
From what I can tell all or most of his Twitter posts are automatically generated as well. (BTW who says isn't or can't be as good as or better broadcast medium than Twitter?). I think he is free to use it that way and we are free to ignore him.
- Brian Sullivan
I guess I looked up at Guy because of his work. But now I admire Louis Gray and Robert Scoble 10x more, because they are using the tools right. There is value in putting your thoughts and getting instant feedback. I learn from blog comments equally or more than from the blog post itself. Of course, this is my own opinion, and that's why I'm posting it only in my feed.
- Jorge Escobar
Lots of people just like to use the aggregation feature (is this wrong?). Their loss if they're not doing more, but are you mad at Guy that he has such a following? Mad at people for tapping into Guy's aggregated information?
- Stuart Miniman
Wow, now I'm mad (?) I'm just saying it's a shame for Guy not to use FriendFeed to its full extent. He can do whatever he wants.
- Jorge Escobar
Apostol -- you're wrong. There is value interacting with 10k and even more with 100k. You just need to use smart filtering.
- Jorge Escobar
well, whatever the reason, his subscription on Friendfeed generates interest even when he is not using it allegedly as effective as you may want. but then it IS effective all the same!?
- Ashish Tiwari
Ashish, Robert Scoble (in FF) has 44k subscribers. Guy has 10k. Guess who's more effective?
- Jorge Escobar
Nobody posts about Robert Scoble having less or more subscribers, but you did about Guy. So he is still as effective in grabbing your attention.
- Ashish Tiwari
One thing to note is that as it becomes easier to synchronize followers from Twitter and Facebook, those who have popular accounts elsewhere will appear popular here as well, even if they were not subscribed to specifically on FriendFeed for the value they bring.
- Louis Gray
"It’s called SOCIAL media, but the social part is often forgotten by people who just want to advertise themselves and their products. I think that social media is a great way to market a brand or product, but it’s not effective if it’s annoying and one-sided. Use social media to meet new people and engage in meaningful conversations. Large corporations are finding that outlets such as...
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- Jorge Escobar
Guy Kawasaki? Unless he build bikes I don’t know him. What makes him special?
- Remo
You have to look at it as a matter of time investment. Social networking is definitely useful, but there comes a point where the amount of people following you means you can no longer carry on a rational, useful conversation with all of them. Also, some people just use FriendFeed as a way to see ALL activities of people they're interested in in one place, not necessarily as its own conversation medium.
- Trent Hamm
Take me, for example. Most of the time, if I see something interesting on FriendFeed, I carry on the conversation on Twitter. Why? More people are there - the conversation has more relevance.
- Trent Hamm
Trent: that's horrid decision making on your part. Why? Conversations on Twitter go away cause their search sucks and because you can't permalink to an entire conversation (like you can to this one).
- Robert Scoble
Who is he anyways? Except a HEAVY Twitter user who tweets to collect followers.
- sofarsoShawn
Guy was an exec at Apple and wrote a bunch of popular books about marketing.
- Robert Scoble
Like most of these services, I think the boundaries around the right and wrong ways to use them are pretty broad. And if you think about it, FF is even MORE of a broadcast and aggregation service than Twitter because of its built-in (and original purpose, might I add) support for piping in your content from nearly 60 other services.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
David, no offense but FF is all about aggregation and nothing about broadcast. Plus you're forgetting we can comment, rate and search on any of the items piped in from all those services, so there's the value add of threading and human filtering and bubbling of good content, which Twitter seriously lacks.
- Jorge Escobar
I don't see the what the big deal is. If he's not using it the way you'd like him to then tune him out. friendfeed is not on CNN every night like facebook and twitter. If you're using social media as a place to market then you have to stick with the most populated places. Don't get me wrong, I love how friendfeed aggregates all this great info, but my audience is not here, so why would...
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- Jonathan.Rivera
I see Guy as a "broadcaster" (if he does use FF) and if I were subscribed to him, which I'm not, I wouldn't be interested in following. I am interested in who follows these guys. Don't you want a conversation? Are there 10K "listeners" out there?
- anna sauce
I have a sense he is someone who doesn't know how to use FF (like Louis & Robert) and thus doesn't get it. At least he's not claiming it's syphillis, despite his ignorance.
- anna sauce
I tend to view Friendfeed as more of an aggregator first and as a social tool second.
- Bill Rawlinson
@Bill that's a 100% correct assessment
- Jorge Escobar
Guy will show up when the subscriber numbers grow for friendfeed. When he get's evidence of a large % of his daily/monthly website hits coming from friendfeed he'll be here. He's being pragmatic about it and focusing on where he has a large audience (twitter). He's probably busy writing while his ghost tweeters are generating stuff he approves of? By the way I'm a big fan of Guy, don't want to come across as portraying him in a bad light.
- Mark Essel
If he takes the same approach that he does on Twitter, I'd rather he just stay there. It's all broadcast and he usually tweets things days after they're posted elsewhere. It's basically his way of driving traffic to Alltop. No real value there.
- Kevin Pedraja
Agree, I like the pipes function for aggregating. Not sure how to use or of FF value beyond that. Kawasaki is into presence. Asked eight months ago to RT something, fell on deaf ears. Nothing in it for him (LOL). He was early adopter, built huge base, does nothing unless it directly links/builds Alltop brand. I guess that's 'marketing' and seems counter-intuitive in social media.
- Denis Campbell
I say Bullshit. I'll bet I can find each of you on another social network that's not active but have a profile. Guy (and everyone else) can do what they want on any social network. We shouldn't feel obligated.
- Jeremiah Owyang
This discussion is far greater than the story that triggered it in the first place. ;-)
- Caio Cesar
Jeremiah is usually good in his comments. This time, no such luck. I do have Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, LinkedIn (is that social?), Triiibes, Bitacoras, Plurk and probably 2 or 3 more I don't visit anymore. Twitter is the other social net I use, and it's all echoes from what I do in FriendFeed. The fact that Guy can find us in other places, doesn't mean he's using Social media to its...
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- Jorge Escobar
Hmmm...just weighing the opinions on this.
- Peter Thayer
These books were added to our catalog using our self-service platform by a third-party who did not have the rights to the books…When we were notified of this by the rights holder, we removed the illegal copies from our systems and from customers’ devices, and refunded customers….We are changing our systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers’ devices in these circumstances.
- Leo Laporte
Good! Sounds like they learned their lesson! This action was no different than if Amazon had gone and broken into my house, taken two books off of my shelf and left cash in their place. It constitutes breaking and entering and theft, regardless of what their TOS said this was just wrong.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Well the biggest mistake with this whole situation is that all the issues that were present with DRM riddled music stores are now rearing their ugly head with the kindle. Amazon need to do more that just saying "we won't do it again", the problem is that they CAN do it.
- Chris Lloyd
Amazon could come to my house and give me money for my books. I'M BROKE
- Tom Barton
"In the podcast we talked about a river of realtime news. The analogy fits these pseudo-events in the following way. Sometime in the past weeks Microsoft held a private event, trying to build a dam on the river, hoping to blow the dam at a predetermined time earlier today, thereby creating a rush of news that would impress everyone. It didn't work because apparently the dam developed a leak in the middle of the night and the water rushed down the river of news while everyone was sleeping. No one was impressed. Sad Microsoft"
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
According to the people I talked to over the weekend, there should've been more than what was announced.
- Daniel Bachhuber
Today, Google engineers announced a technology called PubSubHubbub that makes RSS/Atom more real-time, and they deployed the technology on FeedBurner. FriendFeed also added support for the technology, so if you have a FeedBurner feed, your updates should show up in FriendFeed within seconds rather than minutes after the feed updates.
To enable it for your FeedBurner feed: go to Feedburner, click on the "Publicize" tab, and then click on "PingShot" and enable the PingShot service. That will enable PubSubHubbub and send your feed to a number of ping services.
- Bret Taylor
Once step closer to being able to build an open distributed twitter like system!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
this has been done already by superfeedr.com - google's behind the game on this one, but def takes it mainstream.
- Scott Magdalein
I don't understand. Updates won't appear on Feedburner in realtime, so what's the point?
- Peter
Peter: most blogging platforms ping Feedburner when you post a new entry, Feedburner pulls down the feed, Feedburner then pings the hub, then the hub notifies FriendFeed :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks Benjamin. Alas, my feeds are not that sophisticated.
- Peter
We're still working out kinks so if you have any issues please send me a message!
- Brett Slatkin
You lost me at "Today" I shall now just smile and nod politely
- Steve C
If I understand correctly this essentially turns any site with a feedburner feed into a real time publisher? But to read it in real time you need what?
- BryanSchuetz
Since this is a Google thingie, does it work on Google Reader already?
- Tarmo Aidantausta
FriendFeed can receive the pings *RIGHT NOW*
- Brett Slatkin
guys, how long are we really talking before it should appear here? Seconds or minutes?
- Zee.
The Reader integration is a prototype; more to come soon!
- Brett Slatkin
no way, so Google Reader could technically go real time??
- Zee.
is that SUP's role take up by those rss accelerator? or SUP is losing a chance to propagate in this field?
- huixing
Huixing: we plan to support all widely adopted real-time standards to make FriendFeed better. We are not tied to SUP only.
- Bret Taylor
from iPhone
Brett, why didn't you use the weblogs.com ping protocol? Your comment there about RSS, right up front, really captures the whole philosophy -- right? Let's just reinvent stuff that already works, so... Why? To break everything that already works? It won't happen that way. It'll only make your adoption curve steeper.
- Dave Winer
Is this working for anyone else? Anyone getting near real time publishing to Friendfeed with feedburner?
- Zee.
from iPhone
Would you ping me (dave dot winer at gmail dot com) when I can use RSS with this system. I'll be happy to evaluate it and provide feedback if necessary, and endorse it if it works. Thanks in advance.
- Dave Winer
Alright we've fixed in the spec Dave. Sorry for the mistake. Followed up.
- Brett Slatkin
I had enabled from way before, let's see if the post I'm about to publish works. I'll DM you Zee if it does!
- Jorge Escobar
can someone please let me know if they've managed to get this working?
- Zee.
There's also a WP plugin I wrote that does the same thing. This might be a good option for anyone who's not using feedburner. http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Josh Fraser
Zee, I set this up for my Empoprise-BI blog, wrote a blog post (using Blogger), and six minutes after posting I haven't seen anything in Google Reader or FriendFeed yet. So if you're not getting advertised response, you're not the only one. I'll test again at a later time.
- John E. Bredehoft
cool...just want to be sure it isn't me alone
- Zee.
Update - seven minutes after posting, the post showed up on FriendFeed (both in my feed, and in a group that receives the blog feed). Nothing in Google Reader yet.
- John E. Bredehoft
John: The Reader integration we demo'ed was a prototype; more to come in the future!
- Brett Slatkin
yeah, it seems 7 minutes is about how long its taking me for too (to arrive in friendfeed)
- Zee.
Could you DM me the feed URL? I'll look into the details and figure out the issue. Like I said before, we're still working out a few kinks (the FeedBurner integration is initial support right now). So thanks in advance for your help in making it super fast!
- Brett Slatkin
If you're looking for another implementation of PubSubHubbub, I'd suggest you give a look to our http://superfeedr.com ;) Thanks for your time and feedback!
- Julien
Heh, what's the idea behind the crazy name? ;)
- Tyson Key
does self hosted wordpress natively ping feedburner?
- Tyler Gillies
Nice to see XMPP more and more used on the web! It's a nice environment, also for cloud computing!
- Egon Willighagen
Nice tech, strange name though. Wonder if Google has a projectname generator, feeds it some foundation words, and then watches it spew out 1,835391 suggestions in 20-sized chunks? Too bad they didn't pick up PubSubBuzz instead, rhymes better. Also, what was EVER WRONG with PubSubHubris? (fresh and full of promise).
- ianf ⌘
This tech has been around for ages. It's getting much needed promotion right now, but it's not new. The name comes from XMPP's pubsub mechanism, with hubbub on the end. The option for PingShot has also been in Feedburner for months.
- Marlin Forbes
I think that unless you have installed the pubsubhubbub plugin for wordpress, that feedburner still polls your content. It pushes your content out to other interested parties using the new mechanism, but it will still poll your feed. Correct?
- Marlin Forbes
Mucho Gracias to Andrew Baron for the #1 most-liked post ever to hit FriendFeed (302 likes, 56 comments as of Thu 7/17/08 2:13 pm PDT) http://friendfeed.com/e.... If you're one of the few people who hasn't seen this yet, head over to Andrew's link & "give him some love". Way to go Andrew! Incredible find... :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
On the far right, lightning from a thunderstorm flashed in the distance. Near the image center, though, seen through clouds, was the most unusual sight of all: Comet McNaught (Magnificent Tail of Comet McNaught) http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod.... The photogenic comet was so bright that it even remained visible though the din of Earthly flashes.
- Mitchell Tsai
Comet McNaught has now returned to the outer Solar System and is now only visible with a large telescope. The above image is actually a three photograph panorama digitally processed to reduce red reflections from the exploding firework.
- Mitchell Tsai
Antti Kemppainen Photography - Here's Antti's original picture http://jkemppainen.com/antti... Antti's e-mail is kemppaisantti@gmail.com, and you can scroll through Antti's other photos.
- Mitchell Tsai
Myspace will turn into Friendster or whatever that thing is called.
- Ethan
i still like myspace personally, no one is ever on anymore though... maybe if myspace were to open up the feeds a bit they could get more users back... facebook is too boring.
- Wesley Robin Guerrero
Myspace is a psychedelic trip compared to FB, or to anything else for that matter.
- Russellreno
well I don't know about MySpace in particular, but good prediction, things *like that* probably will happen. some old run-down neighborhood infested with rats and junkies gets adopted by hipsters, and next thing you know, there's an Ann Taylor next to the Pottery Barn next to the Starbucks... web gentrification?
- Karim
MySpace is varied and ethnic- in my opinion vibrant. Just read a paper about the digital class divide. It also contained a study between MySpace and Facebook. The general profile leaving MySpace is white, American, 30's, higher income. The general new user of MySpace is not. You may want to consider what type of person are, before you consider MySpace a ghetto. Just saying...
- E-Advocate Network
Can you eleborate it. We were harping on to Facebook till just recently. Do you want, Myspace to copy your idea and everyone harping on it?
- Nitin Nanivadekar
MySpace is only really good for keeping track of bands. Most people don't log on it too often so you can't send message rapidly. I remember a while back when it was popular...messages and (pre-facebook-wall) comments flying back and forth
- Rudolf Olah
actually, i was thinking of updating my MySpace the other day. does that make me a hipster?
- Christine Lu
Given it's the goto place for anyone in music to have an easy site to stream their stuff that has name recognition and gets traffic, it already is cool.
- Michael W. May
Excellent, I agree. It will become the standard tool of choice for vintage 2.0
- TheFellowship
It'll switch to message board format and usher in the new some thing that already exists but everybody will name it as if its just been discovered for the first time.
- Patricia