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Web Services architecture overview - http://www.ibm.com/develop...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
Security for Cloud-based Enterprise Applications | blog.dt.org - http://blog.dt.org/index...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
Search Wars: Twitter Versus Google - Anthony Tjan - HarvardBusiness.org - http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/tjan...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
Panel: do cloud computing economic advantages break down in enterprises? | Service-Oriented Architecture | ZDNet.com - http://blogs.zdnet.com/service...
"“the public cloud guys have built a better box, they buy in volume, and operate more efficiently than most enterprises" Annotated link http://www.diigo.com/bookmar...
- Krishnan Subramanian
The 10 Laws of Cloudonomics - GigaOM - http://gigaom.com/2008...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
Open source database company 10gen raises $3.4M | VentureBeat - http://deals.venturebeat.com/2009...
This is a good news. Seeing open source vendors raise funding makes the lives of open source evangelists like me exciting.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Virtualization Unlocks Cloud Computing - http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
How much storage do I have in Google Sites? - Google Sites Help - http://www.google.com/support...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
Web Application Security at the Edge is More Efficient Than In the Application - http://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
Outside the Asylum » Blog Archive » Philosophical about virtualisation - http://wonkothesane.com/blog...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
IBM Launches iNotes, a Gmail Competitor for Business - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
Cloud Developer Tips: How to Keep Your AWS Credentials on an EC2 Instance Securely - http://clouddevelopertips.blogspot.com/2009...
How to store your aws credentials
- Krishnan Subramanian
From my inbox: Whatever you give a woman, she will make greater. If you give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her groceries, she'll give you a meal.. If you give her a smile, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her. So, if you give her any crap, be...
Angel Smith, Adam Taylor, SH (Siteler Hakkında) and 143 other people liked this
Such the philosopher. Um, you didn't take your wife to China did you?
- Rick Emery
From the great philosopher Leo !
- Chris Ames
It seems Leo got this in his E-mail.
- Brent - Loving Life
Heard this from a customer the other day, but he ended it, "So don't giver her any crap." It's funnier that way.
- Jeremiah Green
In my house you have to give me the groceries to get a meal, but you can give my wife flour and sugar and she'll give you back bliss in a cookie.
- dthree
How true, and how soon us men forget...
- Sean Higgins
Give the greats a sad song, they'll make it better - won't bore people w/my list
- heretic_twit
If I give her a shirt will she iron it? *ducks*
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
I'll give her the sperm and let the government pay for the baby like all the homies do in compton.
- John Hillestad
"when the leaf falls, the tree trembles" - remember Neda from Iran
- heretic_twit
If you give her your wallet, it will become full....... (not with money, but with bills) *ducks*
- Sudar
Love it.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
How true! I just gave a bad answer and got back the Hell.
- Opensource Obscure
Too True!
- Lillian Banchik
from twhirl
I love it. Sent it to my girlfriend. I know she is going to agree.
- Parvez Halim
I am a woman ..... trying to give me some money and see what happens FIUUU! FIUUU! :-)
- pallina60 Loon
First comes the Wedding Ring then comes the Suffer-Ring ;-)
- Richard Bitting
@pallina60Loon LOL a massive exception to the rule
- Parvez Halim
@pallina60loon not an exception, still the rule. When a man gives a woman money, that is a small debt, which the woman "then multiples and enlarges what is given to her" :)
- Ken & Kiyomi
@ Parvez Halim: I do not think is exceptional. People prefer to think that the woman is sweet and helpful. Sometimes it is not so
- pallina60 Loon
@ ❦ ❦ Kiyomi & Ken: I have not talked to repay the money :-)
- pallina60 Loon
@Richard Bitting: LOL
- pallina60 Loon
um...
- Liz Dorland
Someone please create a male counterpoint!
- ZuDfunck
For ZuDfunck: Whatever you give a man, he will make less. If you give him a musical instrument, he'll pawn it. If you give him a house, soon you will be homeless. If you give him groceries, he'll give you a mess.. If you give him a smile, he'll give you a grope. He reduces and diminishes what is given to him.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
When did you start 'reading' your mail Leo? I had a lot to write to you for years but couldn't find a way to reach you. I didn't bother writing an e-mail since you repeatedly mentioned that you didn't read them at all :)
- M. Serdar Kuzuloglu
from Android
MVB: Dude! That was Cold.
- ZuDfunck
با عضویت در اتاق " در ارتباط با توییتر... " از جدید ترین متعلقات این سرویس با خبر شوید... اسمایلی : (تبلیغات).http://friendfeed.com/twitte-r
- سینه سرخ
Am I the only one who thinks this quote is a bit male chauvinistic? The quote has a wrapper that appears to make women look great but underneath, it stereotypes women as a typical "wife" in a submissive male chauvinistic system. Again, my 2 cents based on a cursory reading on a hectic day.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Good point. Groceries and meal are chauvinistic, among others. Sorry, but the theme had good intent.
- Dan Barber
Too good
- Anand Sharma
Hello and welcome to "Proud to be a Woman".
- Mine Ekim
LOL - Love it
- Tyson Williams
hahahaha excellent!! soo true!! :D
- Simply Teeeya
Just got done interviewing Zoho's CEO who showed me some cool CRM action and he told me Twitter is more important than he expected.
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Super interested to hear how you think it compares with Salesforce.com - Commenters on RWW had an...ahem, violent reaction to the price undercutting.
- Steven Walling
What did he expect?
- Buzz Bruggeman
Did you make a video of the CRM stuff? I've been playing around with Zoho CRM the last few days. Works pretty well, and their free option lets you work with leads, while the Salesforce free personal edition does not. What's the point of CRM if you can't work with leads? Highrise, which is a completely different animal, integrates Twitter now. Hmmm...decisions, decisions.
- Steve Wright
Steven, it is pretty good for me. The best part is its integration with other Zoho apps.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Buzz: he didn't think it was important when he first saw it. Yes, we made a video at Zoho.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I am taking @rocmanusa to Zoho tomorrow to see how we can get Office 2010 today. Anything we should get a close look at? Or ask? Post here:
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Zoho has won some serious business away from Microsoft and Google (GE, for instance, went with Zoho.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Hmmmm, I need to check it out. What are its benefits over Open Office, which I've been using
- Stephen Pickering
Better collaboration and web based.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Damn, MSFT is getting it from every angle!
- Stephen Pickering
It's tidy, but do I want to *trust* online 3rd parties with my data? I want to see such providers provide proof they can't see any of my data by storing it encrypted and it only being decrypted on my own machine. Privacy is about knowing who has access to your information and I'm unconvinced I know that with online office apps.
- Justin Howard
I guess most of your audience aren't Office users. The last post you did there were like 50 comments in seconds. I wonder what their market share is in businesses compared to MSFT and what there strategy is to gain share
- Stephen Pickering
Justin, Point taken, especially with Twittergate
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: almost every business uses Microsoft Office. The others' market share is tiny. But I am noticing adoption of web suites.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Justin: I do. And Twittergate was caused by stupid password practices. I guess you forgot all the hard drive crashes and Microsoft viruses. Plus, if you don't secure your laptop well and it gets stolen...
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yeah, I think I heard mentioned there are 500 million installs of MS Office on the planet
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, you miss my point entirely. It's not about people breaking in as an attack, it's about people having access to my information without my knowledge. Imagine, uncle sam knocks on the door with a warrant and takes that information? At this point I have no knowledge on who has my information, no defence of that information and no way to stop it being misinterpreted or misused. It's not about theft or hiding things, it's about knowing who has access to my information; my basic right of privacy.
- Justin Howard
Justin: good point but you could always encrypt it.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert You cannot encrypt and store in either Zoho or Google docs. You won't be able to access the files using their web apps then. As far as I know, none of the SaaS vendors offer the kind of encryption for storage that Justin is talking about. However, you could encrypt and store in services like S3.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Robert: yeah you can, but I'm just asking how Zoho tackles from problem. From their FAQ I can't work out if the data is stored in a way that they can't see it. It *appears* that certain people can still get access to your information. I'm happy to use anything online if the encrypt/decrypt is local to my machine. For example, LogMeIn provides proof on how their SSL bridge can't see my traffic over the bridge.
- Justin Howard
Justin: Here is Zoho's security practices https://www.zoho.com/securit.... I have written about the same issue at http://www.cloudave.com/link...
- Krishnan Subramanian
Krishnan: Love the link, reads like a Mission Impossible plotline ;-). Nothing in that suggests I can guarantee my basic right to privacy; merely terrorists will have trouble storming the building. The irony? I'd know who had access to my information if that happened!
- Justin Howard
In fact, none of the SaaS vendors offer the kind of encryption you need because implementing it inside of their apps is a big trouble. An encrypted file inside their servers is of no use on that service because they are basically an application provider. If their apps cannot access your file, they cannot offer any experience with their app to you. In fact, the only way you could move to...
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- Krishnan Subramanian
I'm a huge fan of Zoho. I'd be very curious about the adoption rate of Google Gears by their users. IMHO Zoho + Gears = recipe for domination
- Jay Shapiro
from iPhone
Scientists Worry Machines May Outsmart Man - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
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The meeting on the future of artificial intelligence was organized by Eric Horvitz, a Microsoft researcher who is now president of the association. Dr. Horvitz said he believed computer scientists must respond to the notions of superintelligent machines and artificial intelligence systems run amok. “My sense was that sooner or later we would have to make some sort of statement or assessment, given the rising voice of the technorati and people very concerned about the rise of intelligent machines,” Dr. Horvitz said. The A.A.A.I. report will try to assess the possibility of “the loss of human control of computer-based intelligences.” It will also grapple, Dr. Horvitz said, with socioeconomic, legal and ethical issues, as well as probable changes in human-computer relationships. How would it be, for example, to relate to a machine that is as intelligent as your spouse?
- Leo Laporte
My bet is that by then Neuroscience will advance so much that human beings can "optimize" their own brain to function super efficiently. So, singularity may not happen.
- Krishnan Subramanian
I'm bookmarking the story for our TWiT tomorrow. Your thoughts are very welcome! I'll incorporate them into the show. (Dvorak, Jason Hiner from TechRepublic, and Masable's Pete Cashmore will be on the panel.)
- Leo Laporte
I suspect our more immediate threat is from so-called "corporate intelligence" that begins to believe it operates in an environment that is essentially separate, apart and somehow immune from the "real world" implications of it's own actions. If A.I. runs amok it will almost certainly be the result of such a human-based mindset. This is true for virtually all technology that is seen only as a "fix" (with profit potential, oh by the way) without recognizing the new problem potential it also brings.
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
(Or not... what the hell do I know!)
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
I think that the thoughts of a few scientists does not accurately represent the whole world scientific community, this article and those who's opinions were express in it, are basing their arguments in to many assumptions, in science, is not a good idea to have preconceptions before the fact is fully studied and carefully and seriously understood.
- Carlos F. Sam Castillo
Intelligence, can be many things depending on the point of view it's all relative, Having a label defining "Artificial Intelligence" does not mean it equates or even relates to "Human Intelligence" it can't be compared by their existence alone, and less fully understood if we do not define clearly and seriously which are the criteria to be used in order to establish a fair base line and...
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- Carlos F. Sam Castillo
"May"? I think the answer is "will", considering the Kurzweilian doubling of processing power that's been on track for a while. There won't be a Skynet-style, violent loss of control to machines. If it happens, it'll happen gradually. Like with the industrial revolutions, thinking machines will take over the simple jobs and gradually make their way up to more complex reasoning tasks. Instead of taking hundreds of years, it'll be climbing an exponential curve and we'll see it in 30 years.
- Matt Mastracci
All hail our robot overlords! :-)
- Peter DeVries
India decriminalizes homosexual sex - The Globe and Mail - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...
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"The New Delhi High Court struck down the law that criminalized consensual homosexual sex today, in a move that will radically change life for millions of gay, lesbian and transgender Indians and represents a huge shift for gay rights in the developing world."
- Kittyburgers
from Bookmarklet
India has is a very exciting place. I really want to go there some day. the women are gorgeous and maybe I can talk all the men into being gay now. just kidding... this is a great thing for a country. you should not force people to accept your lifestyle.
- Noah David Simon
Sad that it was ever illegal.
- l0ckergn0me
India has been running right into the 21st century the last few years. Soon they'll be ahead of us.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Ahead of us? It's not like anyone here (if you mean North America or Europe) is queuing up to get into India.
- Kittyburgers
sometimes ahead can be backwards. woe be them that end up with Colleges and Law schools with 60% women and intolerance towards men. (another issue)... there is a balance. I support gay rights... but there is a tipping point. true equality and dignity comes from recognizing difference and the right of the individual to think that he is more right then the other guy. I would never want to live in Norway.
- Noah David Simon
what?
- Andrizzle Gizzle
@l0ckergnome It was a rule established when imperial British were ruling India and the idiots who ruled after independence didn't take it off. Even now, it is the lower court that has legalized it. Not sure if it will stay this way all the way to Supreme Court.
- Krishnan Subramanian
@Jack Carlson - I think you are swayed by what the media is projecting about India. No country can become an advanced country just on the basis of IT outsourcing business alone. It will take a long time for them to even progress. All the glitter and progress you are hearing about India means nothing to 70+% who are underprivileged in socio-economic sense. Miles to go before they can even beep.
- Krishnan Subramanian
@Krishnan Subramanian Probably not, but we'll see. The world isn't changing for the better these days.
- Kittyburgers
Norway has tolerance towards Gays, but not tolerance towards people who think they are better then other people. it is also a right to be right. I would have to say India is way ahead of Norway. http://ff.im/4Za0o it is my right if I believe that one armed Peruvians should lick my feet if the one armed Peruvians agree to do it... that we have the right to do it by law. further I can...
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- Noah David Simon
"Norway has tolerance towards Gays, but not tolerance towards people who think they are better then other people." Today's "A Really weird thing to say"
- Alexander Angeltveit
feel free to do some research about it then Alexander Angeltveit http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009... Norway's abuse stems from a belief that you can't be right because if you are then you think you are "Chosen" and therefor you might think you are better then others
- Noah David Simon
Why did Google announce Chrome OS this week? Well, of course, Microsoft has a big announcement coming on Monday (I'm embargoed).
Daniel Rowley, Bill Romanos, Charanjit and 216 other people liked this
It'll be interesting to discuss both announcements too, and what they mean for each other.
- Robert Scoble
Is this that internet clipboard that Ray Ozzie demoed a few years ago? Maybe they've completed it!
- Diego Barros
I hope to see something good come out of this. Are they saying free or paid for the Chrome OS?
- Anthony Timberlake
That's my Scoble - seeing things behind the things!
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
*raises eyebrow* Interesting. I applaud more competition
- Mo Kargas
I'm intrigued!
- Daynah
Diego, no, it's one of Microsoft's primary businesses. Did you know Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses?
- Robert Scoble
Related to Microsoft's Gazelle browser? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Kiran Patchigolla
Windows 7 GPL 3.0 ?? Brouahahaa:-)
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Microsoft isn't doing too bad lately.
- Eric Florenzano
cool, im thinking its a special version of windows 7 for netbooks?
- sean percival
Anthony: I'm sure it will be free.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'm sure they do. As I'm sure IBM does. But I don't care about IBM. :)
- Diego Barros
BingOS?
- imabonehead
imabonehead :D
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
imabonehead: no. :-) Microsoft isn't that disruptive.
- Robert Scoble
And that means Google Is doing well once again, doesn't it?
- Markingegno - Donato
from Android
The Chrome OS will be for netbooks and such for now. And is Microsoft announcing the Free One Care?
- Dylan Richardson
haha BingOS! I like it
- Diego Barros
Bingo yes :)
- Kiran Patchigolla
*chuckles at imabonehead*
- Daynah
LOL BingOS! The startup sound will be Ballmer saying "BING!" like he did at AllThingsD conference.
- Paul Salzman
Bing-OS was his name-o!
- Daynah
Bingos <--- that was his name-o
- Micah Wittman
GoogleOS is already out - "It's the browser" - the GNU/Linux/Ubuntu skin is just marketing...
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
*high fives Daynah*
- Micah Wittman
An open source OS - how much stable will it be??
- Palak Mathur
Question is Robert, if you are not allowed to say, how on earth did Google find out?
- Sandra Large
Bingo-sssss
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Micah, we're on the same google brain wave tonight. :)
- Daynah
Palak - you troll
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Ride the wave :D
- Micah Wittman
Sandra: it might just be coincidence. Or maybe they have great spies. Depends on your view of the world, huh?
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft is open-sourcing their code too??? Yeah, didn't think so. :)
- Josh Fraser
Josh: part of the Microsoft announcement on Monday runs on Google Chrome (and Firefox for that matter).
- Robert Scoble
Not all "open-sourcing" is created equal.
- Micah Wittman
Maybe Microsoft is making it's secret announcement this week cause they knew Google was about to announce?
- Alan W Silberberg
Robert - say no more, don't get into trouble, Duder.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Thats real funny Josh .. Its like pulling teeth to get them to give a discount on anything.
- Dylan Richardson
Alan: maybe! It all depends on how you look at the world, doesn't it?
- Robert Scoble
Nice Cant Wait!
- James Hunter
It just seems to coincidental. Like President of Iran making big speech during MJ's funeral!
- Alan W Silberberg
Scoble the only MS announcement they could make that would blow me away is Windows 7 Early release.
- Dylan Richardson
Dylan: Microsoft has a few other impressive things up its sleeve.
- Robert Scoble
So the question is now that Google's making an OS, will Eric Schmidt resign from Apple's Board?
- Paul Salzman
It's all just ones and zeros. ;)
- Victor Panlilio
So, do we give Calacanis credit for calling a Google OS back in 2006? http://calacanis.com/2006...
- Mike Doeff
Sanat: insightful. Paul: Google makes a smart phone OS, and he hasn't resigned, so why would he now?
- Robert Scoble
Zune HD. Looks nice for the first time ever I'm thinking about it.
- Dylan Richardson
Google is talking about it's goals at this point. Isn't Intel trying a netbook OS too that boots fast? It'll be interesting to see which OS features win out here with different implementations. Is instant on to the browser the key or will some other feature shine? Fun times ahead, though really need to see things in action.
- Loren Heiny
from iPhone
Dylan: sorry, that is dead on arrival. They should have combined Zune with a cell phone.
- Robert Scoble
I got a screen photo here: http://ff.im/4WoVE, I don't have much comments yet due 2 that I am using it now, its not much of an announcement.
- polou/indigo_bow
Robert, Zune with a phone hmmm??? I hope ur rite as u said ur embargoed!
- polou/indigo_bow
Gazelle?
- carrotmadman6
MS does not have the Balls to take on the iPhone.
- Dylan Richardson
Wait for Monday. Nothing else to say.
- Frédéric Sidler
from iPhone
Robert, because they claim to excuse him from the part of the meetings related to iPhone...computer OS is arguably the biggest segment of Apple. I guess he can stick around for the hardware discussions. I know my argument is elementary, but maybe walking a line here?
- Paul Salzman
What was the last big hit new MS product?
- James Watters
But if they did that would be cool competition is always better for the consumer.
- Dylan Richardson
James: Xbox? Dynamics? Bing?
- Robert Scoble
Apple is not really what I will be looking at Android is the big boy here
- polou/indigo_bow
MS Office on the browser would also explain why GMail and Google Apps are finally out of Beta today too.
- Ron Schott
Xbox
- polou/indigo_bow
OH OH Project Natal is coming out!! lol j/k
- Dylan Richardson
Robert: Thanks, wasn't hating, just looking for organic momentum from products. Bungie was def a godsend to 360. Bing proved Seth Godin wrong which I greatly enjoyed.
- James Watters
@Robert Scoble: So I looked up Microsoft's last quater's financial report, Microsoft does indeed have a $14 billion business :)
- Long Zheng
Bing is nice I have to say. Here is how I use it .. If I want to Buy or shop a price I use Bing. If I need info its Google.
- Dylan Richardson
MS better fix the %$^#%@^ Gumblar hole first, it's apparently worse than Conficker -- http://rixstep.com/2...
- Victor Panlilio
MS also has ~6+ B in R&D, is it efficient?
- James Watters
Not new news, but it could be the launch of Silverlight 3.0? Offline mode and all the other nice bits, runs on Chrome and Firefox.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Oh, really? When I get something on embargo...I don't write about getting it under embargo. Come on, Robert. You're better than that. Or at least I hope you are.
- Andrew Feinberg
I agree @travis, but google make it like a news
- polou/indigo_bow
James: it doesn't matter, a company like Microsoft needs a product pipeline to remain relevant. Research lets Microsoft remain relevant and on Monday you'll see a bit of how it does that.
- Robert Scoble
OK. Google Chrome OS. Netbook makers say Linux based Netbooks have high return rates. How will people react to a Netbook that only runs a browser? Linux has remained niche.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Andrew: sometimes you have to take a risk. This is one of those times.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I will look forward to it. We ALL win when great software comes to the market. Almost nothing better in the world.
- James Watters
14 billion, maybe Office that runs on Silverlight, therefore in the browser properly.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Do you all think GoogleOS will just boot up right into the browser? Browser will be in firmware?
- Paul Salzman
BTW, Robert, will Microsoft finally dump IE and develop a Webkit based browser? (Forget Gazelle. Yet another stupid Microsoft research project that will never successfully make it mainstream.)
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Paul: no highly unlikely.
- James Watters
Dileepa: I don't know the answer to that. But the demos on Monday (I have a bunch of video coming) were shown to me in Firefox. So maybe that's our answer right there.
- Robert Scoble
James: so you think it will sit on top of Linux or something? Or just be a new flavor of Linux?
- Paul Salzman
Linux flavor of Chrome, thus far not arrived yet
- polou/indigo_bow
Paul: I'd look at Android as a precursor and say yes its going to use a google refined linux kernel, and I believe the post even says a windowing system. I'll check TC again to be sure brb.
- James Watters
Paul: I bet there will be some customization of Linux underneath Google's Chrome OS. I'm intrigued and can't wait to see what they will do with it.
- Robert Scoble
Google says the software architecture will basically be the current Chrome browser running inside “a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel.” (quoting TC)
- James Watters
I can almost bet that its web based Microsoft Office with some nifty real-time collaboration features.
- sameer
Sameer - I agree. Explains cross-browser compatability
- Daniel Lazarides
from iPhone
"a new windowing system" leaves the door open for a greater level of abstraction away from the kernel for sure. Probably still with some access to files, devices, etc on the local hardware though which a browser alone would be a clumsy solution too.
- James Watters
If Microsoft's BIG announcements are Web based Office (already demo'ed and announced), Windows Azure RTW (nothing unexpected) or Windows 7 RTM (already announced to be announced!), there is nothing that's going to surprise people on Monday then.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
I think Wave might be integrated into the OS.
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Windows7i -- the Cloud OS from MS
- Paul Salzman
Jaya: Like as a built in extension to the windowing system? Like IE and explorer?
- James Watters
@Alex Will they be able to match Open Source strategies as followed by Ubuntu,etc??
- Palak Mathur
just another rehashed disaster of windows in another marketing created packing
- Zac Bowling
Dileepa - They haven't talked much about collaboration using Office web. There was one OneNote demo that showed some realtime synchronization. I'm thinking more Wave-like realtime features.
- sameer
Zac: I'm going to believe Robert, but lets give him hell if this is marketing glossy! :)
- James Watters
Paul Salzman: Windows 7i with WGA! -- works only when accessed through IE when running on a WGA validated copy of Windows.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Dileepa: that's it, we've called it! ;)
- Paul Salzman
Robert you managed to convert a complete google night into a complete MS night :)
- Kiran Patchigolla
James: it's been a while since I've felt compelled to do more than five videos at a Microsoft press conference. See ya on Monday.
- Robert Scoble
sameer: That will be mimicking existing Google Docs feature. Google Wave is at a completely different level and I am not sure if Microsoft is up to doing something like that.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Till Monday it is, I'm thinking I'll even blog it.
- James Watters
Wave might act as the collaboration platform on the OS. But that leads to another question. Will the OS be tied to Google accounts for login?
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Let's see, I think there's potential for implementation of realtime collaboration across the web based and desktop offerings of Office that could be of big mainstream impact. It's got to be something related to Office, Robert talks about the "$14 billion business" - The only other Microsoft business I know of that's that big is Windows.
- sameer
sameer: I said that Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses. Plural, not singular, but I also said it was one of Microsoft's primary businesses. That narrows it down a bit, yes.
- Robert Scoble
My guess is a MS hardware that will shake the netbook market!!
- Krishnan Subramanian
So that's a Win7 RTM announcement, combined with Web Office. If Web Office will be free to use, the combination of W7 Starter with Web Office will be a huge notebook hit.
- Kirill Petrovsky
If ChromeOS was meant to counter MS, then the logical MS announcement would be some kind of OS project, like maybe a combination of Microsoft Singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... ) combined with Silverlight for NetBooks or mobiles.
- Ray Cromwell
MS Web Office for sure: Scoble said it runs on Chrome and Firefox and it's a multi billion business. Actually, MS Office accounted for 18-19B $ in 2008.
- Jérôme Flipo
I fear that if the tech side of their release if good (but whatever the pricing), Google Apps isn't ready for the fight.
- Jérôme Flipo
Microsoft announces the cloud OS? I'm still not sure about a Google OS though.
- Burcu Dogan
Web Office in Silverlight, together with a mobile version that means we get Silverlight on WinMo and maybe even IPhone would be a win for me
- Ian Blackburn
I cannot wait...:-) but I DO have a clue...
- Eric Denekamp
Lots of people suggesting Office-in-browser but if that were it why would Robert be under embargo given they've already announced it and demo'd it? I'm not saying it ISN'T Office-in-browser but if it is then something doesn't add up!
- Jamie
Good point Jamie - the two primary business in MS are Office and Windows (in terms of revenue anyway), so perhaps this is more to do with a Windows OS in the cloud? How would that look?
- Ian Blackburn
Midori perhaps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jamie
Initially, Google VS Live, Then Chrome Vs IE & Google Vs Bing, finally its Windows VS Chrome OS
- Michael_techie
Ummm... are they announcing an online version of MS Office like Google Docs?
- prolificdyslexic
that's why I do not subscribe to Scoble - too many comments on his articles, too much noise
- Павел Романовский
I don't see any noise in here. Interesting conversation!
- Robert Scoble
The MS guy at Portland Cloud Camp said Azure was going to be released very, very <wink, wink> soon. #cloudcampPDX
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
@gwalter You’re maybe right. The front end would be MS Gazelle, and the back end would be Azure.
- Bram Pitoyo
Microsoft is finally putting the Zune out of it's (and out) misery and killing it? :)
- Diego Barros
Office Web Apps release to public beta is well overdue - first promised for end of 2008. If this is embargoed then it must involve something new. ScottGu hinted that Silverlight 4 was already in development. SL3 is released this Friday. So maybe SL4 will be released,in beta with a beta of Office Web Apps showing some SL4 features (like more AIR like features)..
- Joe Wood
It seems like "too late" and illogical for Microsoft to come-up with another vendor-lock-in type innovation and expect positive results. Microsoft is not run by daredevils nor wimps. The announcement Robert talking about might be about a web based productivity application suite, which is standards compliant and offers a familiar interface and workflow for people, thus easily adoptable and steal competitors' (G, Y!, Zoho, 37S, Adobe?, etc.) user base.
- Berk D. Demir
The thing thats got me shitting my pants over all this is Games. I need Windows to play all the latest Direct X 10 and 11 games. Linux is hopeless in that regard.
- Mark
Audience in here is mainly composed of technically inclined, early adopters. We feel comfortable with online apps and mainly ready to ditch (or already ditched) many offline applications in favor of our new toys. OTOH, that's a huge paradigm shift for the other majority of less technically inclined and incomparably bigger masses. Microsoft still have the power to lead masses, create...
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- Berk D. Demir
Interesting discussion! I vote for MS Office online !
- Krishnamoorthy
I commented in istartedsomething on Long Zheng theories with this list. so why not here after having read all of Scoble responses?: Safe Guesses (not crazy): 1.- Office Ensemble (Office Web Apps + Office Live Update) and a Office 2010 public CTP (the most likely one) 2.-Microsoft Online Services gets full release along with a full release of Windows Azure while one of the new Data...
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i crammed a lot of guesses that may not have to do with the announcement so maybe robert could say warm or hot to the whole list without having to specify. :P
- Avatar X
I vaguely recollect listening to the GIllmor Gang in June/July 2008 where Robert said he'd just visited Microsoft Research and seen "an amazing new browser". If memory serves me correctly it was said in the context of mobile devices but who knows.....this may be another contender for Monday's announcement!
- Jamie
Anything related to Midori ? http://technologizer.com/2008...
- Krishnamoorthy
Microsoft has already made their counter-move to a Google OS. It's called Windows Azure. It'll serve apps to the Google OS with ease and MS will make money in the process. Yeah, I know today the money be nowhere near what the Windows OS makes, but while the Google OS is gaining traction as a desktop OS, Azure will be gaining traction as an app hosting platform for that very same Google OS and others.
- Jeff Weber
More spam news will come in. Azure, Mirot ha ha ha
- Michael_techie
just another social network (where the IE users might hang out)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Another huge innovation like renaming Bing?
- Burcu Dogan
Google is initially going after netbooks via a new OpenSource OS. If Microsoft's Next Big Thing is Azure then they are betting that a locked-in cloud-based OS will trump Google's move. It's gonna be VEHLEY INTELESTING to see this play out.
- J.D. Deutschendorf
launching online enabled MS Office, free and beta
- Павел Романовский
I really hope it's not anything Silverlight related, some one is on crack if they think the end game is everything running in a plugin in a browser.
- Scott Kahler
Tease. Tease. :)
- Charlie Anzman
Robert, they'd better have more than a few "14 billion dollar" businesses. Their market cap is 200 billion for heaven's sake.
- Stephen Pickering
sorry, have to ask. did it make you cry? :)
- dannysullivan
does this mean google=novell?
- Eran Even-Kesef
Made the news onto electricpig your announcement!
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Dr. Schmidt HAS to resign from the Apple board... too many conflicts of interest (iPhone v Android, Chrome OS v OS X, Chrome v Safari). What could he possibly be adding that can't be obtained through someone else?
- Gerald Buckley
You are in Palo Alto? I am in Mendocino. :)
- Joe
pricing of Azure will definitily be one of the announcements; not the BIG one. Office online perhaps...
- Jeroen De Miranda
Very interesting indeed. Chrome OS sounds like a great companion to Windows on a netbook+ device, for those times when you do need instant web/email. Looking forward to your videos!
- Will Johnson
Since the event on monday is WPC I'm guessing that Steve Balmer will present MS view on future of the Enterprise and showing off some of what Ray Ozzie has been working on. Coming full circle with Azure (computing infrastructure), Mesh (powering collaboration), SilverLight (future of runtime enviroments on all platforms) and of course all of this software+services has to be powered by Windows Enterprise Servers on the back end.
- Daniel Chow
Also the new Office is the first application to launch under the above stack. Scoble, did I get anywhere close to any of the embargoed announcements? :)
- Daniel Chow
Robert - Was GLADoS based on you? ;)
- Matthew DeVries
What do you think? How long will the Apple-Google Friendship last? http://friendfeed.com/applero...
- Hans Kainz
They are going to announce the release of IE 9 - the even worse with net standards addition.
- Bobby Griffith
Windows 7 Home/Business/Ultimate Netbook Edition. Each with different capabilities and things disabled for no reason other than to confuse users and make more money.
- Scott Koon
heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :)
- Allen Stern
Go for it, Allen! Inquiring minds want to know!
- Rudy Amid
Well if you do know, you owe it to your readers to report the news,
- Mark
Mark - That's if you see tech journalists (which I don't think Robert even classifies himself as) as true hard hitting journalists (think woodward and burnstein, ed Murrow) or if you think of them in the vein of Sports writers. Sports writers, like tech writers, need to foster relationships and have their names known and have to cross closer into the friendzone to get us the day to day...
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- Matthew DeVries
Mark: sorry, I signed an embargo. That's the way these things go and I'm not willing to burn this relationship, sorry. You'll know on Monday. Matthew is exactly right. And even with Woodward and Burnstein, they played this game. You didn't know who Deep Throat was, even though that was news too.
- Robert Scoble
Not even going to go for the Deep Throat joke... I swear, I'm not going to... :p
- Bill Heslin
what announcement?
- kang
I didn't mean Robert should report it. I meant Allen Stern who commented he was not under an embargo. He knows it, he has no NDA, he should report it.
- Mark
RT Allen Stern "heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :)"
- Mark
I hope its not Gazelle. If it is I respect Robert for abiding by the embargo. It seems as though no one in tech abides by embargoes any more. If it is Gazelle, might as well discuss since it is all over the tech blogs already.
- Keith Beucler
As they keep it under the blanket till now! It should be software only thingy! speculations about xbox, zune phone etc are free to leave!
- Amir
It's not Gazelle. At least I don't think so, because I have no clue what Gazelle is. I'm off to find out.
- Robert Scoble
Ahh, nope, what I was thinking of is not Gazelle. But now that I see the rumors I wonder if Microsoft has more than one major announcement on Monday?
- Robert Scoble
My Guess: They enabled Live Mesh Web Desktop to run applications, So in future all applications are going to be hosted in Live Mesh
- Amir
maybe i want use chrome all day,,just for internet surfing
- qian
Hey Robert, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being an announcement that version 8.1 of IE includes a better spell-checker, and 10 being that Windows 8 is coming out in 2010 and is free, how many out of 10 is the announcement going to be in terms of having an impact?
- Mark
btw I have had this single chrome window open for about a week, and because each tab has its own process I don't get memory leaks like with firefox.
- Mark
Does unmodded, unaddon'd firefox leak?
- Matthew DeVries
Not sure to be honest
- Mark
So there could be your difference.
- Matthew DeVries
Mark: that's hard to judge. I'd say 6.9 based on how you framed it.
- Robert Scoble
Is this something that will go over well on Wall Street?
- Michael Fidler
Well, today Microsoft announced the promotion of Steven Sinofsky to president of the Windows Division.
- imabonehead
Robert ur (face) a hit today in the news outlets: http://lifehacker.com/5310444...
- polou/indigo_bow
I hope Google comes up with a great OS. I have tried any different Linux versions on my netbook but have never found the perfect one. Looks like they have connected the right partners as well so I am very excited. 9 0ut 10 for me. This could change everything
- Asgeir
TechCrunch on Scoblelizer's drumroll: "Office In Cloud Comes Monday" http://bit.ly/18sKUe
- JimmyJet
it will be a sigh of release for people come to fear those massive, massive office purchase/downloads. still a pain for when you travel and have no access online though...
- Terry O'Fee
While Google's forays in the OS and office productivity arenas are great for consumer choice, are they playing w/ fire? Google's core revenue stream is search, which has a much lower switching cost than any of MS's multiple revenue streams: Client, Office, Server. It seems like the two are pitching for a protracted fight that could be costly to both. But in a battle of attrition, it seems to me that Google could lose $ faster than MS.
- lingb
Windows ME Ultimate?
- Michael Funk
Well, it's Monday, what is the announcement about?
- SuezanneC Baskerville
MS is making Office apps online. Ala google apps. Boring.
- Rudy Amid
So I'm going to do a startup. And College is getting in the way. UGH.
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So, I wanna do wireframes for my site. BUT NO, I CAN'T DO THAT! Why? I've to re-derive a formula in math. SERIOUSLY?
- Yuvi
You can do both. It sucks. But it can be done. I ran ETS out of my dorm room for many years.
- Brandon Mendelson
college > startup
- Allen Stern
@Allen: I can't find myself justifying 'college > startup'. Can you gimme a few reasons?
- Yuvi
do both, or focus on college for now. but don't quit college. if you ever need it, you'll be sorry you did, and it becomes harder to do as you get older.
- Patricia
Dude, I drove myself nuts trying to get a startup going in my senior year. Then I graduated and the next Fall the economy collapsed, but that's irrelevant. Just finish school, trust me. Oh, and don't hire your school friends unless they are co-founders/investors...leads to a lot of drama.
- Neal Jansons
A good education is any day better than a startup in the longer run. If you have sights only on short term, college may not make sense. A good education opens up your mind to bigger thing and startup can always be a part of that big thing. The other way around is not possible.
- Krishnan Subramanian
"A good education is any day better than a startup in the longer run." Unless you are Bill Gates.
- Neal Jansons
I would stick with the education, but I would also find out if someone at the school is willing to mentor you through your startup. Many colleges provide entrepreneurial support, if yours does not, hit me up and I'll help you out.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dan has a good point. You can take biz classes and network with others who are wanting to go into similar industries as well.
- Neal Jansons
I know a ton of people who bypassed college, and then found it really, really hard to go back. In fact, I don't know anyone who rued going to college. In fact, one friend went back to college after being an early Yahoo employee, and it's been kind of sad the amount of "chip on his shoulder" shit he has from avoiding college. I'm in the biz and I love startups and new technology, but I...
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- anna sauce
where withall to start a startup now, I bet those options and interests will expand 10-fold. So give yourself a treat and get an education. More practically, an education can only add to your startup idea.
- anna sauce
On an even more practical note, investing in education is the best investment quite literally. It increases your rate.
- anna sauce
I wouldn't use Bill Gates as an example. He hires college grads. If he really believed in his path he wouldn't, right?
- anna sauce
I did my first business without college. My best friend and I were managers at a bookstore and left and opened our own. 3 years later I went back to college and graduated last year. In retrospect, though the shop survived and is still open now, with a proper education I think we would have been much more prepared out of the gate, made fewer mistakes, and had much fewer hard times. My...
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- Neal Jansons
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Yuvi, I won't get into the reasons to stay in college, but if you do leave for a startup, it should be heavily funded so that you have a solid job for a few years. Otherwise, there is too much benefit to the education route. You will need to remember that college/university is more about getting the degree than really learning anything. More important is that you learn how to learn things because there is so much more to learn outside of schooling.
- Rob Diana
Yuvi- I was in the EXACT same boat as you all last school year. I am going into my Junior year now and incredibly pleased to have stayed on this path. Instead of ditching college I am investing a lot of time in developing my ideas and work process, as well as getting even more involved in my school and the community than I was. Starting a week from tomorrow I am starting as the...
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- Daniel Zarick
Okay, I was never contemplating leaving College. But that's not because of my education - that was because of the amount of fun I'm having here. I don't know how you guys had it in college, but frankly speaking, the entire system from where I come from is rotten. People pride themselves on memorizing stuff (EVEN CODE!), and expect you to be the same. Yes, I do realize not everybody with me is like that - but the majority (and the people in power) are. (cont)
- Yuvi
(cont) It wears you out if you sit in the same room for 7 hours, listening to otherwise really interesting stuff being taught in stupid (and often incorrect (one of my core CS staff still doesn't understand how pointers work)) ways is not, IMO, the best use of my time. Or anybody's time for that matter. I could be actually *learning* new stuff! I could be building new stuff. Coding, designing, talking to real people. Instead, I'm confined in a room and *taught*. (cont)
- Yuvi
(cont) And as for the startup - I'll start bunking classes I feel are not necessary. Like the Data Structures class. I writhed around today as I saw 47 students being taught the basic concept of a Linked List with so many errors. The staff couldn't even get a basic 'typedef' in C right. SERIOUSLY? Yes, it might be just that it's my college, but that's all I've got, so I better go do something more productive than just 'get on with it'.
- Yuvi
I'm not quitting school. I'm just going to give it as much importance it deserves, which, honestly, I don't think is much.
- Yuvi
And by 'college getting in the way', i meant just that - College was making me do useless stuff when I'd rather actually learn/build something.
- Yuvi
Yuvi- exactly how you should probably feel. That's what I have ran into too, but with an arts/media/communications school. I suggest trying to find a way to capitalize on the frustrations you have with the school, if possible. What can you offer these students better than the school? Build/create something that will supplement what you aren't learning from the school and teach yourself,...
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- Daniel Zarick
Yuvi- switch schools.
- anna sauce
I'm actually also not a fan of CS degrees. I'd go for a liberal arts education. The classes I've been in or CS have been really rote. Or, go to a better school where you can take better math classes, other interests.
- anna sauce
@Anna - I can't. I didn't do well enough in the Competitive exams (I got 191/200), so this is the best I get. There are a few that have better academics, but if I go there, I pretty much sign away my freedom. Talking to girls? NO. Mobile Phones? NO. Wanna do anything not related to 'scoring marks'? NO.
- Yuvi
@Anna I wanted to major in Statistics. They wouldn't let me - in India, if you get 'good enough' marks, you shouldn't do Arts. You should do engineering! It's a really stupid thing that seems to have caught on with all parents :(
- Yuvi
Similar pressure here - become a doctor. One of my close friends was pressured to become a doctor by her parents, and fought with them to do English. Now she's an English prof!
- anna sauce
@Anna: Really? I figured people in the US get a lot more freedom to do what they want to?
- Yuvi
Get out of the "applied" game. Think - what is the best level of education you can get that will help you think, especially since you're a budding entrepreneur. MBA track?
- anna sauce
Yuvi- it depends on your parents/situation. Most of my friends growing up were first-generation and had a lot of pressure to be doctors/lawyers. A LOT OF PRESSURE.
- anna sauce
I can't switch. EOD. And no, I don't want an MBA :)
- Yuvi
So basically.... I'm stuck here. I can move down, but not up. Atleast, it's better than what some of my friends are caught in.
- Yuvi
Yuvi, pressure tends to come from the parents, so that kind of thing is probably universal with some cultural differences. I was in the engineering school because I had no interest in the doctor/lawyer/account paths. Accidentally ended up in a comp sci course and never left.
- Rob Diana
Funny, I have a few friends that did comp sci as an escape from EE.
- anna sauce
Interesting note on parenting: let your kid pick the major. Geesh!
- anna sauce
It's not that I don't like CS. HELL I LOVE CS! Just this particular 'brand' of CS that seems to prevail in India = me no likey :(
- Yuvi
the good CS class is rare. I wish I'd gone to MIT... now. At the time, I wanted to be a writer. But now, I'd love all of those classes. Sigh.
- anna sauce
@anna They did let me pick. If I wanted Electronics, or IT, or whatever - they'd have let me pick that. BUT IT HAD TO BE IN ENGINEERING :(
- Yuvi
Once I told my Dad I was really enjoying the psychoanalytic writers from France, and he blew a gasket. He didn't want me studying psychoanalysis. To this day I have no idea why.
- anna sauce
Yuvi, statistics is considered "arts"? That is a damn shame, because that would be an excellent way to go.
- Rob Diana
Parents do the weirdest things. My dad doesn't want me listening to Evanescence - I still have no idea why!
- Yuvi
Yuvi, do you have access through your institution to a decent reference library with relevant periodicals? If so, take advantage of it, as it is the one thing that becomes prohibitively expensive once you leave the academic environment.
- Michael R. Bernstein
They separate it to Arts colleges. Basically, you have 'engineering', 'medical', and 'arts/science' here. 'Arts/Science' group together everything, from Commerce to Accounting to Physics to Chemistry to Statistics to even Maths!
- Yuvi
@Micheal: Yeah, they have one. I'm using it pretty well :)
- Yuvi
Oh, ok. That is similar to the way most US colleges separate things as well. As usual, people can't get beyond a label and see the reality behind it.
- Rob Diana
Yeah. People are the problem :( My parents aren't exactly to blame either - if I had taken Arts, they would've gotten an earful from anyone who had mouth about how they had 'spoilt my life' by letting me take a course that 'wouldn't get him a job'. Sigh.
- Yuvi
An engineering degree doesn't necessarily get you a job anymore- flood the market, demand goes down, etc.
- anna sauce
And as it happened here - flood the market with engineers who can't 'engineer' stuff, then the value of a real engineering degree goes down.
- Yuvi
Yuvi, I wasn't blaming your parents as much as just what tends to happen. My parents did not understand my decision to go into CS because they did not understand computers at all. I was supposed to be a civil engineer, and they liked the idea as they could "understand" that better.
- Rob Diana
@Rob: I wasn't either. Just clarifying myself :)
- Yuvi
Alaska Gov Palin on Facebook suggests that she has bigger plans and a national agenda she planned to push after she resigns.
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she's out of her mind.
- Mike White
Oh noes!
- Phillip Stewart
She is dreaming of becoming a female George W
- Clive Sinclair
from iPhone
She's destined to be on Fox.
- Robert Scoble
i think she might co-anchor with nancy grace.
- Jim Halligan @jim
She could play bridge (to nowhere) with Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace and Sean Hannity.
- Aron Michalski
She's going to take over for El Rushbo when he keels over.....or she'll become a Libertarian and start her own radio show...either way I could care less, she's just another idiotic politician
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Aron, which one of those is the dummy? ;-)
- Karoli
Jim: Palin and Nancy Grace? Jebus shit... talk about "nails on a chalk board." My head would burst...
- Christopher A Carr
She's going to get paid to do GOP fundraisers while pimping her book, or some such thing, I would suppose. Her current situation is insufficiently lucrative.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: I am hoping for a Nancy Grace spot to promote her new book or such. Best thing that could ever happen. Those two are meant for each other.
- Jim Halligan @jim
I still think the Palin/McKinney ticket has legs...crazy legs.
- Aron Michalski
I live in Tokyo, so I am I getting this in Japanese.. Is Palin now Governor of Facebook?
- Robert Higgins
I'm in Nagoya, it's all in English and I think it said something about gumdrops and lollypops.
- Aron Michalski
A) The woman has a voice that could strip paint. B) When she does talk, she has NO earthly idea what in the hell she's saying. ....actually, that would be a shoo-in for cable news, now that I think about it....
- Kris Roley
OK now we have an explanation. She wants to save Alaska the money they're spending on all the ethics investigations. :loco: You. Just. Can't. Make. This. Shit. Up! I know some of you don't believe me, go look it up and come back to this thread. Fox and the WSJ are lining up behind this with a full court press. Honestly how can these people look themselves in the mirror, how can any...
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What frightens me most about Palin isn't Palin. It's the incredibly short memory of the public at large. Even with everything she's said, done, hasn't done, will do...there will be people out there who hunger to hear the drivel she spews and forget the rest.
- Karoli
Karoli - my fiancee and I had this same conversation today, and its more than just a bit frightening. That said, I'm optimistic that the US hasn't fallen so far from sanity that a majority would deem her an effective leader. I think the worst damage she can do is that which she excelled at during the election - spreading vitriol and hatred. Whatever its meaning, her next "calling" can't be good.
- jcunwired
jcunwired: I hope you're right. I also hope that sovereignjohn's comments above were intended as sardonic humor, because it is precisely this idea that she is on a 'mission from God' that frightens me most. The God I know would most certainly not approve.
- Karoli
The very idea of god itself is plain fraud and if someone claims that he/she is sent by god, it freaks the hell out of me.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Palin Bush 2012
- Robert Higgins
Many web heads have a strong desire for the open web, the thing is, most normal consumers don't give a damn --hence Facebook and AOL
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Sure. But eventually the walled gardens fail to provide the experience users want, and the open alternatives win. And developers are savvy enough to take the slightly longer view now.
- Michael R. Bernstein
I figure savvy developers are using FBConnect to provide a "have your cake and eat it too" solution.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
The open, distributed options ought to win in the long end, because they provide a resilience and flexibility closed systems cannot have (not to mention the ability for you to change where your content is without losing the content, contacts and history). But then I remember that all in all newsgroups lost out to forums etc. (of course there were other reasons). Still, now that there is...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
As with anything, the winning solution is likely in the balance of the two. That is why Facebook has the potential to be a player for a very long time. They are opening up as much as they can, but keeping a lot of control. They also have a huge user base, which counts a lot when trying to determine who you should work with.
- Rob Diana
True enough, Rob. Do you want to be right, or do you want to have 200M potential customers?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Well, who is to say that the completely open web is "right"? Developers want it that way, but that does not make it right. Personally, I think being almost completely open is a fantastic idea because you can get an ecosystem built for you, i.e. Twitter. That still does not make one version more "right" than the other.
- Rob Diana
it may appear to be a "strong desire for the open web" but it's also a recognition that social media needed centralization to get off the ground, just like the early internet, early blogging, early microblogging. centralization is training wheels, every company's web site will need to be a full participating member of the social web, and it won't rely on technology that's not open.
- Brian Hendrickson
They give a damn, they just don't understand the philosophic underpinnings. Just do a google search for why can't I export my Netflix ratings and you'll see people upset about the issue, even if they don't realize it.
- Davis Freeberg
Almost nothing that we base our lives on is open. Not cars, phones, planes, work, Starbucks, movies, music, etc. Should software be different?
- Todd Hoff
When it comes to software that makes the web work, an open solution can achieve breadth of adoption because it can be fully trusted. -- by developers.
- Brian Hendrickson
Little kids do the same: they like staying in a closed garden when they're small. But after some time, they get bored and want to see what's out there. It's called growing up. Hence the internet. ;-)
- Ewout
Depending on where you look the internet is actually pretty closed. TCP/IP, communication pipes, DNS, routers, switches, all closed.
- Todd Hoff
Most normal consumers don't give a damn.. to begin with. But with experience comes the desire to branch out.
- Paul OFlaherty
Where is AOL now, BTW? Probably, you may want to change your comment to "many normal consumers doesn't give a damn initially". Once educated (either through the efforts of web heads or through their own nightmare experience), they don't just give a damn but they DEMAND.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Facebook has made huge improvements in openness, such as allowing publicly searchable profiles and providing an API for developers to create add-on applications. While still restricted in many ways, these advances have brought significant value to the user's experience.
- Mike Chelen
Centre bans CPI (Maoist) - via http://friendfeed.com/india-n... ☜ I wish they'd ban the CPI, CPI (Marxist) & the rest of the commie bloc too
Banning is not right in a democracy but if they are going to ban, they should have banned RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal too. They are also terror outfits.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Misguided outfits should be fought politically, says Left Front - via http://friendfeed.com/india-n... ☜True! As taught to the comrades in this election!!
They are not misguided. They are plain evil exploiting poor and underprivileged.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Re: Google Docs snipes at Office with .docx, .xlsx format uploads - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
"I thought Zoho Office Suite offered this function since long back."
- Krishnan Subramanian
Building a Real-World IaaS Cloud Foundation | Cloud Computing Magazine - http://cloudcomputing.ulitzer.com/node...
Most Popular SYS-CON's Virtualization Conference
- Krishnan Subramanian
Communication Service Providers Turn to Mashups to Put New Intelligence Into the Hands of Users, Improve Customer Service - http://www.marketwire.com/press-r...
Annotated link http://www.diigo.com/bookmar...
- Krishnan Subramanian
Is that XML in your wiki? | MindTouch, Inc Blog - http://www.mindtouch.com/blog...
A very good post explaining why Mindtouch thinks XML is better than Wikitext markup.
- Krishnan Subramanian
My Longest Road Trip: Austin - Los Angeles - Seattle (2515 miles)
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Mine was Gainesville, FL to Austin TX to LA to Seattle (took 5 days)
- Krishnan Subramanian
Krishnan wins! But it sounds like you hauled ass. I took my time and enjoyed the ride with my future fiancé :)
- Carter Rabasa
Re: How I made over $2 million with this blog (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Great post Dave."
- Krishnan Subramanian
Is Google Being Evil? Ajax Search | CloudAve - http://www.cloudave.com/link...
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This post talks about the possible analytics problems that could come up due to the new Ajax powered google search.
- Krishnan Subramanian
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