I completely disagree with this argument. Plus, if a scientist overlook materials after he/she found the top ranked material in the search engine, his/her research is bound to fail or be incomplete. The "competing" labs will then take advantage of this oversight. - Krish via Bookmarklet
Krish, are you waiting for linux / 'driod phones, or getting an iPhone on August 3? I'm struggling with the same conundrum. Do I grab a Nokia N-series until Android is available, or lock myself into 2 years of AT&T for the Apple goodness? If a good deal hit me on a S60/Symbian phone, I'd probably jump on it and bide my time. Decisions. . . - Benson Miller
I am going for it. Even if Linux/Android phones hits the market in, say, the first quarter of next year, I would want to wait till it matures with version 2. There is a good chance I might come to the close of the two year contract by then. In the worst case, I can dump the phone with my wife who considers it as just an instrument to talk and nothing more. I will be there to buy iPhone at store opening time on 3rd August. Just want to have my hands on an apple product and see what is there in them :-) - Krish
"Cisco is among companies that recruit in Second Life. "My extended team uses Second Life primarily to recruit new talent," says Andrew Sage, a marketing vice-president at Cisco, adding that Second Life is good for finding workers under the age of 25. Yet even for an executive as tech-savvy as Sage, using an avatar in Second Life can be challenging. Early on, during a recruitment seminar for resellers, Sage accidentally caused his avatar to fly away while making a presentation. "Needless to say, it wasn't ideal," Sage says." - Krish via Bookmarklet
"As the spread of virtualization decouples OS and apps from hardware it similarly undermines Microsoft core strengths. That’s why I suspect that Microsoft may be undermining the hypervisor (as a commodity extension of Microsoft) in order to slow VMware and the march of virtualization." - Krish via Bookmarklet
Yep, but I don't think it's a matter of coming to the middle as much as the stark reality of $4 gasoline and voters who are getting angrier and angrier about it. The trend has been there for a bit now. - Aaron Brazell
I agree with you on the reality, no argument there. I just have doubts about whether or not it would make a serious difference. - Michelle Martinez
It's amazing what $4 a gallon gas does for one's perspective, isn't it? And agreed about political blogging. You really have a moment when you could do this Aaron - with all the coverage that the Web 2.0 v. Congress thing got. Don't let moment slip away. - Lucretia Pruitt
The cons so outweigh the gains which would not even come to market for years and will drive cost further to pay for drilling. - Michael W. May via twhirl
I'm not going to say that no politician has ever flipped on a position for lame reasons but we do put them in a damned if you do position at times - we decry partisan hackery and wish that they would be willing to admit that their original position was wrong or that changes in the facts warrant the undigging of the heels and a new approach but when they do we scoff at them and accuse them of pandering. i think we shld encourage the behaviors we like through positive reinforcement - Marco
People changing opinions based on reality is a welcome thing compared to the current occupant in White House, who wants reality to change based on what he thinks. - Krish
For its part, Agence France-Presse retracted its four-missile version this morning, saying that the image was “apparently digitally altered” by Iranian state media. The fourth missile “has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test,” the agency said. Later, it published an article quoting several experts.
Throughout the day, several news sites have taken steps to disown the photograph that they ran on Wednesday, including LATimes.com and MSNBC.com. - Thomas Hawk via Bookmarklet
I find the enthusiasm of media funny. Media should better direct our country's foreign policy than scoring some brownie points on photoshop disasters. How does it matter if one missile failed. What matters is what we are going to do to stop missile proliferation without using our own missile. Scoring such brownie points are kid's play and not media's. - Krish
The Iranians should be writing Photoshop tutorials instead of trying to mimic their missle supply! - John Barker
"If you suffer from Ballistic Missile Launch Malfunction, then Misalys may be right for you..." - Live4Soccer
5 to 1 they used a pirated copy...they need to download a few Photoshop Podcasts for some tips on cloning...better yet, download "You Suck at Photoshop"... - Live4Soccer
That is incredibly disturbing; the Photoshop clone tool will prolly be the cause of the button press on the next significant US-involved conflict. - Clay Newton
Photography can be a powerful tool and terribly politically influential. I watched a photography documentary recently that cited the famous photo of a buddhist monk lighting himself on fire as the tipping point on the Vietnam involvement with President Kennedy. - Thomas Hawk
My Dad told me that it was when Cronkite declared the war "unwinnable" after the Tet Offensive that America changed their tune on the war... - Live4Soccer
seems the bbc hasnt noticed. now they are showing footage of the missile launch that matches the AP photo and then also different newspaper front pages which published the photos, some using the AFP and others AP, but no mention of this. interesting. - Katie Ratcliffe
Let's just drop the old one down the memory tubes to get rid of the double-plus-un-true version. - Nicholas Molnar
"I am totally with you Corvida. Loren and people who justify his nonsense take the freedom of speech idea to an extreme. With freedom of speech comes the huge responsibility and if people don't exercise this responsibility, they should face the consequences. I am sure Loren knows about it and he may or may not care about it. The sad part is the attitude of a group in the tech community who encourage such nonsense. If we have to take the arguments of people like Allen Stern, then Freedom to hold guns will imply freedom to shoot anyone. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to insult people. Period." - Krish
"I agree with the freedom of speech argument. But, with that freedom, comes a huge responsibility. If people fail in that responsibility, they should face the consequences. Freedom to hold gun doesn't mean freedom to shoot others. Similarly, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to insult others. I am disappointed with your line of argument." - Krish
The author of this article clearly identifies the difference between Microsoft's approach and Google's. The former uses "coerce" and latter uses "co-opt". - Krish via Bookmarklet
I wonder if the Left could see past Bush's sins as a President to see that he too is a patriot and might have something to offer after his term is over. - Aaron Brazell
I think I just heard Erin throw her computer against a wall, pick it up and block you ; ) qos! - Marco
I think he has a lot to offer - on the front-line in Iraq... you know, fighting for what he believes in... he does believe in it still, right? - Lucretia Pruitt
#1 Kotecki has had company and a friend who like to pour wine all day. #2 Bush is a Patriot, but he's a very dumb one. #3 you all can #suckit - Erin Kotecki Vest
Oooooh... a violent drunk, Mrs Kotecki is. :) - Aaron Brazell
Heyhey now... let's what where we're flinging those #suckits queeny-bay-bee... I proposed sending Shrubya to Iraq... surely you see the beauty of my solution!? ;) - Lucretia Pruitt
Well, we're working with a very loose definition of patriot here. - Summer
At least we haven't descended into "omg that jerkface stole my baybe and sent him to get shot at. Death to Bush" - Aaron Brazell
My favorite Bush quote on this topic: "I must say, I’m a little envious. If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed… It must be exciting for you … in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You’re really making history, and thanks." http://snipr.com/2u5qx - nathan
Erm, Erin? Folks, I think Erin is trying to say "I think Bush would do a fine job but I think he should probably worry about other things that retired world leaders worry about after their terms are over. Like, I think he probably should polish up his golf game a bit" - Aaron Brazell
we should send Bush, Blair, and everyone who still supports them to Iraq as part of his "surge", then we may finally accomplish something :) - Prolific Programmer
He is totally going to retire to the ranch and cut brush and drive his truck around - Christian Burns
Sure, after he retires, he will remain a patriot and applaud every republican president who attacks other countries in the world just because that country's president peed on Bush's daddy's vehicle. - Krish
more importantly, the National Review is kinda creepy - Erin Kotecki Vest
Is it also too late to point out that Bush would have to understand a HS Gov. Class in order to teach it....ohhh. come on... - Erin Kotecki Vest
If only we could honor all ten amendments in the bill of rights. Not just the convenient ones. - Christian Burns
Pretty decent list of cloud computing vendors. Also, this is a good google group to join if you are interested in cloud computing. - Krish via Bookmarklet
If everyone from MS liked working at Google, I think that would be a worse sign for Google :). A good company should repel the wrong people as much as it attracts the right people (not that I know anything about this one guy in particular). - Paul Buchheit
Everyone has different values and, as Paul says, no place can be right for everyone. As I mentioned last week, this guy's values are pretty different from my own, judging from this excerpt: "I need to know that the code is useful for others, and the only way to measure the usefulness is by the amount of money that the people are willing to part with to have access to my work." - Kevin Fox
Ah, it seems like this topic was already discussed here. Should have figured :) - Bindu Reddy
Another possible way to read that statement is "MS offered a boatload more money than GOOG" :). Which isn't a bad thing. I think that good engineers are underpaid in general. - Sanjeev Singh
He has a good point: when all of your products are "free", the users aren't the customers. - Gabe Schaffer
I disagree with his his code being useful only when people pay for it comment... However, I do think he has some some interesting but exaggerated points about the role of middle management/managers being very ill-defined at Google. The question is should we have any middle-mgmt in corporations and if so, how best to structure it? I am not sure I have a good answer to that question. - Bindu Reddy
Bindu: he's not saying that his code is only useful when paid for, merely that he judges its usefulness by how much people are willing to pay. That makes some sense; as a photographer I consider my best photos to be the ones people order rather than those that just get the most views on my web site. - Gabe Schaffer
He didn't say code was only useful when people paid for it. Rather, he said that the only way he knew how to *measure* the usefulness of his code was by the amount of money people were willing to pay for it. It is kind of an interesting economic question. - Karim
When I first read this post, I thought he was simply saying that Microsoft was paying him more than Google. :) - Chris White
His arguments are kind of "light". Look pretty much an afterthought. - Martin Añazco
I wonder how he came up with this observation? - "Google as an organization is not geared - culturally - to delivering enterprise class reliability to its user applications." - Edward Ho
Those types of statements seem like a classic case of denial by an established player being disrupted by a new competitor. They'll keep telling themselves that Google can't "deliver enterprise class reliability", and meanwhile their business will be eaten from below. (not that MS reliability is all that anyway, but obviously they think it is, and need some way to rationalize a lot of heavyweight process) - Paul Buchheit
One year seems a short time to fully understand the culture, particularly since it seems he was moved around (different projects, managers). I'm no Google fan-boy, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of there there. Seems more like he didn't like customer facing 'cool' product development. - AJ Kohn
Google is just like any other company in that it's made up of employees, many of whom have different opinions. This guy decided it wasn't the place for him. The media picks it up because they are bored with the "Google is great" stories, and are looking for some "Google sucks" stories. It's all kind of boring really. - Chris White
Not sure how much I'd pay for Gmail but I would pay heck of a lot more than for Hotmail. - Philipp Lenssen
AJ: a "customer" is somebody who buys something. I've never bought anything from Google, and neither have most of its users. Presumably this guy prefers to work on products where the customer is the user. It's like working for a cable station like Showtime instead of a commercial network like Fox. - Gabe Schaffer
That's a pretty limited view Gabe. If anything, Google cares about their users more than MS, because enterprise purchasing decisions are made by IT managers and not end users. MS is failing at search because the end users don't like their product and are continuing to abandon it. - Paul Buchheit
Paul, nobody ever said that Google cares less about customers, just that there is a fundamental difference in writing software where the user pays for it and software where the user does not pay for it. Of course a lot of MS software isn't paid for by the user because it came preloaded or was purchased by their employer, but somebody is still paying for it. In this guy's mind, that means it's good. I certainly care more about which of my photos get the most orders versus which get the most views. - Gabe Schaffer
@Gabe: I don't agree with your definition of a customer being someone who buys something. Blog readers are customers. You are a customer of FriendFeed. If you get utility out of a product, you are a customer. The strength of that relationship could be marked by how much you pay, but you are a customer nonetheless IMO. - AJ Kohn
Gabe, you personally may feel differently based on who pays, but what matters the most in product terms is who chooses, not who pays, because that is the person who has to be satisfied. For Google and Apple, the end user chooses the product, and for MS it's typically someone in IT, and that reality is reflected in their product decisions. - Paul Buchheit
Ideas are like good people. The Right People have good ideas , that needs to fit into the ideology of a corporation. Just like right people need to fit into the right culture. There is the fine difference between good and right.. watch the words and the way that we think about such things.. its important :)- - Peter Dawson
Paul, I think you are right when you say it sounds like "Innovator's Dilemma" denial, but I'm not sure the reliability observation should be dismissed on those grounds. I still think ISPs that have an older telco background (e.g. Verizon) have much better reliability cultures than those that don't (e.g. Comcast). While Google services have always been very reliable for me, I've also seen more than one FF thread in the last few days from people having problems with them... That *can* matter. - Karim
That *can* matter. - @Karim - it will matter when yo pay for it .. till then it really does not pinch its just an inconvenience only - Peter Dawson
I don't know about yours, AJ, but my dictionary defines customer as "One that buys goods or services." I consider myself to be a FriendFeed user, or possibly consumer or patron -- but definitely not a customer. This guy's problem with Google is that while their products (a few of them) are highly popular, they are not highly valuable. He wants to work on a product that has measurable value, so he has to work for some place that charges for their products. Maybe one day micropayments will become easy and I can pay Google per search, but in the mean time Google isn't that valuable to me. - Gabe Schaffer
@Gabe: Dictionary version of customer is too narrow. Splitting hairs on user, consumer, patron IMO. Should I assume that you'll no longer use Google search or Gmail or anything else that is free? I view value as the utility you derive from that product, not strictly purchases of goods and services. Clean air is valuable, any of the free search engines are valuable. Wouldn't the logical extension of your argument be to equate value of a profession to salary. I find teachers valuable, but not based on salary. - AJ Kohn
The definition may be splitting hairs, but to this guy it's an important distinction. He didn't want to work at Google anymore in part because he wanted to work for a company that sells a product to its users (which by definition makes them customers). It doesn't mean that he didn't want to work on user-facing products; it means that he wanted to work on paying-user-facing products. And I use Google's products particularly because they have no value (i.e. they're free). - Gabe Schaffer
Okay, I totally grok that Google may be a good job fit for some, not for others (and so, too, Microsoft). But this value/no-value thing has me totally confuzzled. Dude, Gabe... if products have "no value" then why on earth would you use them? Clearly they have value to YOU, and clearly they have value to Google, or Google wouldn't offer them. This isn't radical new think, it's just different types of value! :-) - Adam Lasnik
He says Google produces products that wastes people's time and he then goes on to use it to explain the rationale behind one of the important decisions of his life. Yeah, right!! Also, with his philosophy, he can only work at Microsoft and nowhere else. - Krish
Sorry, Adam, I tend to think like an engineer. A value is some quantity; in this case it's something's price -- not to be confused with worth, which is how much you're willing to pay for something. For example, an old silver dollar might be worth $50, but its value is only $1. - Gabe Schaffer
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree re: the definition(s) of value, but now I can better see where you're coming from. - Adam Lasnik
His is one way to measure the value of software. This week I was thinking about a different, larger cost that the user is willing to pay to use software: the amount of time she spends using it, multiplied by the value of time (e.g. her salary). That number is usually a lot more than what the user would have paid for the software in $, and I try to minimize it, because really my job is to get users what they want, not to use up their time getting it. Probably the most valuable thing, though, is to maximize the value you provide, and to try to measure that directly. - j1m
Iran has moved ballistic missiles into launch positions, with Israel’s Dimona nuclear plant among the possible targets, defence sources said last week. - Aaron Brazell
This is the one area I'm not sure Obama has the ability to handle if it were to go down. - Aaron Brazell
Well, it's inevitable. It'll eventually happen. I was hoping it would at least be put off a few years, give everyone some time to cool out and figure out another solution (i.e. Iran to vote out Amadinnatime or whatever). Looks like no one's listening to me though. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Granted. But how is it being managed today? Not so well, it would seem. - Chris Baskind
Chris, lest you forget... Iran is one of those countries we're not actually at war with today. :-p - Aaron Brazell
...or maybe we can just tell Iran to pay us not to go to war with them. Oil and caviar ok... - Mark Forman
My guess - the conspiracy theorist in me and what not - something happens (prob not nuke though) before the election. - Aaron Brazell
I think it would be groovy if it stayed that way, Aaron. ;-) - Chris Baskind
Mark (Rizzn), not that we're not listening to you. Quite the contrary. You're scaring the shit out of me with your neoconnity :) - Aaron Brazell
Yeah, something is likely to happen. Before November. - Chris Baskind
And another thing...why are you not sure Obama can handle this. Did pretty damn good with his Iraq decisions, thank you very much.... - Erin Kotecki Vest
Voting in the Senate is a hell of a lot easier than managing an international, nuclear crisis. Granted, the current administration hasn't been a good manager of the problems... but, we're talking about the possibility of a nuclear confrontation with explosions. - Aaron Brazell
...and the other candidates can handle this better because...... - Erin Kotecki Vest
Well, no one seems to deny McCain is more likely to pull the trigger on wartime issues... ;-) Not saying he WOULD be better, but according to recent polls, McCain is beating Obama on "war on terror" and "foreign policy" issues - whatever that means. - Aaron Brazell
@Aaron: I didn't mean you guys not listening to me. I know you guys put up with my rants all the time. I mean all the other guys at the secret NeoCon conventions never take my advice. Damn shame, too. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Pulling the trigger is the easy part, I'm afraid. - Chris Baskind
This is why I'm so desparate this election. I want new ideas AND good ideas in the Whitehouse. Given that I'm a conservative/libertarian, I don't see Obama's ideas as good. Given that I'm under the age of 110, I don't see McCain's ideas as new. Srsly, though, they're both beltway boys, career politicians, and part of the system that keeps producing Bush's, and Clinton's. I don't trust that system. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
The saber-rattling with Iran frustrates me beyond belief. It's as if everyone has left their common sense at the door. Can't figure out what the hell is bad about diplomacy. As the close relative of a career diplomat who spent his career in Afghanistan/Iran/South Asia and who retired before Bush destabilized the middle east, all I can say is STAND DOWN. - Karoli via twhirl
If there is a nuclear attack in the Middle East it will contaminate the whole area including parts of Europe. - Igor The Troll
Karoli-As opposed to all the other sensible wars we've gotten into? Sorry to make you a straw (wo)man,but wars only make sense to the powers behind the scenes that profit from them. - Mark Forman
Karoli: For us folks in the cheap seats, it's difficult for us to tell when folks from the middle East mean what they say. For instance, when Osama bin Laden says he'll kill Americans, he tries to follow it up and sometimes succeeds. When Iran and Iraq say they want to kill Israelis and Americans, they do it sometimes, and sometimes not. Based on that, for otherwise smart folks like me who don't know all the Arab and Persian nuance, it's hard to decide if each threat calls for diplomacy or action. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Nuance, Rizzn? When people tell me they're interested in killing me and manage to kill some of my friends and/or acquaintances, the times they've been too incompetent to actually pull it off doesn't ease my worries. It compounds them. Nothing's harder to defend against than a randomly-incompetent nutbar. Iran's not JUST saber-rattling, folks. They have intent, even if their means get temporarily diverted. - Alexander Williams
Alexander- the real power in Iran isn't Ahmadinejad, but the Ayatollahs. They've been in power since the late 70s, and haven't started a war with the US/ its allies yet- Ahmadinejad's playing to his supporters, but I don't think what Iran does against Israel or any of its other neighbours is really going to be up to him. - Mike
But they have authorized, pushed for, and actively participated in vilifying and demonizing America in specific and the West in general, plus not very shyly funded and planned actions that have cost American lives. Add to that it's hard to believe Ahmadinejad is off the reservation with regard to the mullahs and it's fairly obvious it's an intended action. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
I do agree with that Alexander, but Iranian politicians have vilified and demonised the US and its allies since the revolution, and they're not the only country to have done this. Does that make automatically make them a threat? I think the US and UK are suffering much more in the eyes of the world due to our actions in the country just to the West of Iran than because of Iranian rhetoric. I also agree that Iran is involved in the Iraqi insurgency, but not to the extent that some would have you believe. Also, Iran didn't force the Coalition to become embroiled in Iraq. The thing is that Iran will be destroyed if it does launch an attack- it won't be a case of 'regime change' as it was with Iraq and Afghanistan. Why would Ahmadinejad's handlers risk that? - Mike
I would say it pretty much makes them a threat, taken together with the various other Iranian-backed terrorist attacks on US and allies. They also are trying really hard for big dog status in the MidEast, and have been for a while. I look at it this way: If we treat them like a serious threat and respond appropriately, then they can either back down in rhetoric or action and few people go 'splody. If we don't respond as if they're a serious threat and they are and carry out their intent, lots and lots of people go 'splody. I don't like people much, but asthetically the first seems preferable. The eyes of the world are worth about like they sound, $24 each organ on the open market. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
It's also intersting to note that this entire article is based on an editorial in an Iranian newspaper, which talks about striking Israel as a "response" (presumably to "retaliate for any onslaught" by Israel). There's almost no analysis as to whether either side is going to actually do this. We're seeing the same kind of article from Murdoch's press as we saw in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. - Mike
And the mullahs would risk it because culturally, the MidEast is set up around face / respect, bluffing, and internecine tribal warfare. Plus the whole being stuck in the 14th century in a lot of ways. Between the past couple decades of softness US responses have sported (the Bush legacy being a recent aberration they think they can coast through 'til it's Obama-Nation time) and the way the media's been spinning US attitudes, they seem to figure it's a good gamble, one way or another. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
I see Amerika war mongering on Iran, more a propaganda than realism! But the war will happen, probably sooner than latter. - Igor The Troll
So Iran will attack the US, Europe and/or Israel (possibly with nukes) because of internecine tribal warfare and in order to save face? Even though it's stuck in the 14th century? Where's the evidence for this? And what makes you think that, almost 30 years into their revolution, now is the time the mullahs will gamble on Iran being destroyed (which it inevitably will if they took this risk)? - Mike
Iran certain would like to / intends to do damage to the US and Europe, fully intends to do massive amounts of direct damage of Israel, has stated both intentions repeatedly, and wishes to do so / believes they can succeed because, culturally they're retrogressive and the Western leadership has been notoriously soft and Chamberlain-esque. As for why NOW, if Sy Hersh is any measure, it's because they have less to lose every day and need a big win. - Alexander Williams
What do you mean by culturally regressive, and can you point to any evidence for this? And why would that make Iran commit national suicide by attacking virtually every major military power in the world? - Mike
Mike: I think it's worth considering a couple things. (1) Why would Iran spend decades funding terrorism aimed at the U.S.? On a practical level, I mean? Pissing us off is gonna eventually lead to Iran being destroyed... and yet they do it. You're looking for logic from a theocracy. The same thing that makes GWB a pain in the ass makes the Iranian powers-that-be incredibly dangerous. - Roger Benningfield
(2) I think you're underestimating the power of fear and the fear of power. Look at how 9/11 brought all that latent paranoia out of Americans, and then consider being Israeli or Iranian for the last 30 years. People can't react rationally when death is in the air almost every day. - Roger Benningfield
Roger- I think your second point is very true. But I also think we're at risk of going over the top with these threats, as we did with Iraq in the final few months before we invaded. From 2002 onwards newspapers like The (London) Times started these stories about Saddam being out of control, and wanting/ having the capability to launch missiles at Europe (if not further afield), all of which turned out to be propaganda. Re your first point, I agree that Iran has funded terrorism, but then so have many other countries (the US (often with its allies' backing) being a major player in that field). I just think that if we assume that Iran is some kind of kamikaze nation which is willing to destroy itself in order to try (and fail) to take out the US or Israel then we lose all control of the situation, and we'll find ourselves in a scenario which makes the current worries in relation to Iraq and the price of oil seem positively cheerful. - Mike
Wow... all I did was bookmark a story on del.icio.us... Now look what happened? ;-) - Aaron Brazell
Sorry Aaron. I was just glad to come on FriendFeed and not see another discussion about *yawn* Silicon Valley. Especially that god damned puppet story :) - Mike
I wonder why it is difficult for people to understand that it is a game played by one set of conservatives to help another. Islamic fundamentalists want Christian fundamentalists to be in power here so that they can stay alive and vice versa. I would vote for someone who will promise me that he will never pull the trigger. Someone like Gandhi. Of course, people with residual tribal ideas will attack me on this. But, do I care? Hell, no!! - Krish
I don't know who did his policy brief, but I love every point of it... I hadn't been seriously considering voting for Obama till I read that policy brief - David Silvernail
Robert, you REALLY, REALLY need the FriendFeed comment plugin on your blog. Remove your comments entirely and replace it with that and you'll be set. You won't have to post a link every time pointing people back to FF too. :-) - Jesse Stay
Obama. Evidence: http://youtube.com/watch?v=m4y... . It's an hour, but make time to watch this. The difference between McCain and Obama couldn't be more stark. - John Craft
Uh... this is so obvious it's silly! :*) - Susan Beebe
Don't really care what their "tech" policy is. I'm more concerned on who will control spending and not add more social programs for everyone else to pay for. - Spencer Scott
