"The strangest audio device is connected to the controller via Bluetooth, and it works in an interesting way. Once tapped on the right half, the unit is activated. And if you want to turn the sound up or down, just tap the left half."
- Numan Arda Çebi
from Bookmarklet
İnteresting..! I think Google Reader is very usefull app
- ★ Soner Gönül
Can't wait to get the Lists feature enabled! Very good post!
- Gerardo Capetillo
Adopting Twitter for news reading is a huge commitment to read instantly all news (bc they don't archive, right?). It's insane ... But yes gReader is too heavy.
- N.G. Gordon - RadarSync
from iPod
I just don't understand how you process all those tweets per day. I'm sure lists make it easier. Personally, I like the static nature of Google Reader because I can quickly scan folders by date-time or feed and then mark things with a star if I want to read them later, quick notes on shared items, etc. And of course all the shared stories post here on FriendFeed then Twitter. Normally I keep FF up all day but just began with threadsy and I confess it's got me looking at my Twitter stream MUCH more.
- Ankush Narula
but even on twitter you must be missing things
- ffcode
funny... cause i still read your blogs in reader... its got its place... tracking rss feeds from youtube, photography sites etc etc etc... if people want to follow what you write, you should not have to write your blog AND post the link to twitter... redundant! and will make twitter even noiser! why not let people pull at their leisure... the two things are for different times of the...
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- simran
i am still wondering how can you read so many tweets and then those links to articles wow
- ffcode
Robert, my favourite news reader, NetNewsWire started using Google Reader for synchronization and it's a failure. I now get most of my news via FriendFeed and Twitter.
- Khürt Williams
I agree on that you about iPhone Greader apps, most of them suck in someway or another: too slow, missing feature ect. "RSS" is best that I have tested, it was free for sometime and I like it most that I have try, but still more I want use Greader iPhone site. About slowness, I don't have that but that's because I "only" have over 250 sources, when some people have thousands. And part...
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- Kristian Salonen
Re Point 8. Check out "RSS Flash G" iPhone GoogleReader App. It lets you share, from iPhone, like a good thing, supports FaceBook, Twitter, Delicious, Instapaper and of course all googlereader sharing facilities are there too. These are two entirely different methods of discovery they both have their uses. But sharing from GoogleReader on the iPhone is EASY so I hope that takes care of point number 8.
- David Hall
ffcode: actually on Twitter I miss very little. Why? Retweets and repetition. And, we always have TechMeme as the big net!
- Robert Scoble
I just got Lists so i haven't had a chance to really get to grips with it, but I think the problem Robert is that you're trying to apply your usage cases to everyone else. I use Reader in a different way to the way I use Twitter. Just like I use FriendFeed differently to Twitter or Reader.
- Eoghann Irving
I guess if you are recycling tweets don't need GReader, if you are munging petabytes via Yahoo Pipes, than GReader will pull stuff fresh off the press
- Robert Higgins
Eoghann: over and over in my career I've been told that I'm not like everyone else, but then everyone else behaves like me only about a year later. So, see ya next year!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: ahh, yeah, I guess Yahoo Pipes is one thing that might keep me on Google Reader -- if I used it. I'm going to delete everyone on my Google Reader account and start over. It's so freaking slow that it's totally useless, even for the few things I could see some utility for.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it doesn't *always* happen like that. Sometimes it's two years. :-)
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, that's a silly argument. If you make enough predictions (and you make them daily). You will of course sometimes be right. But you are not always right. FriendFeed?
- Eoghann Irving
Eoghann: I was right about FriendFeed. It's just that Twitter and Facebook are now going to turn into FriendFeed. Just watch. Twitter's new RT feature looks a LOT like FriendFeed's likes.
- Robert Scoble
Eoghann: but I get where you're going. By the way, 50,000+ followed me here. So, something about FriendFeed was interesting enough to sign into it.
- Robert Scoble
well, you certainly helped make it interesting. But at first, I didn't really understand it's value proposition vis-a-vis Facebook. And now, with things like ping.fm, is it's value really that much? Not sure - I mainly use it for the tray functionality so I can keep up with you, Mrinal, and Danny. Otherwise, I'd completely get behind your posts.
- Arthur Coleman
Arthur: FriendFeed's value is static, while the others are rolling out new features. So, for me, it's better to bet on Facebook or Twitter. But FriendFeed will be better for things like live conversations or real time search for quite some time.
- Robert Scoble
I love FriendFeed. But I don't recommend it to everyone else. For a lot of my offline friends Facebook is a better fit. Again I come back to the fact it's not one size fits all.
- Eoghann Irving
I prefer accessing Google Reader via feedly.
- Nils Sandin
Well I tend to miss many important things on twitter.. not my fault. .. time zones differ and so do the times articles are published and linked on twitter ... On my google reader they always stay .. i can check them when i want .. so twitter better than GR? .. yes for breaking news .. not for general articles ..
- Amit
Amit: on Twitter they always stay too. It's just that Twitter has a lot more flow. But now with lists you can cut down the flow.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I agree they stay. but it is not difficult to lose them in all the tweet flow. i know lists allows you to cut down the flow, but not if lists has many twitters added to it. I want to read what you write more than what you share and I do not want to miss those articles. Google Reader will always remain my first preference for that..
- Amit
Google Reader certainly is trying to become more social, but for me too the experience is an awful lot like keeping up with email - needs daily management, pruning, to get information out of it. I freak out thinking I've missed an article, therefore dread trying to keep up with reader. I get that using Twitter makes news reading about the here and now, and frankly if it's important it will be tweeted for days to come. I think the notion of getting news from Twitter is a good one, particularly with lists.
- Mark Aitken
And for the record, I'm keeping off Wave until it feels less like email too. Currently it's a very messy and exhausting experience to use.
- Mark Aitken
Twitter with Lists has become my defacto RSS reader.
- Rubin
Just opened my co twitter account & was invited to "create list", I like the way you have broken it down!! I might just organize mine this way, to also include, clean energy, smartgrid, energy management etc. Thanks for a great post!!
- John Tastad
Amit: again, if you use lists you DO NOT HAVE TWEET FLOW!!! How can I make you guys understand this? Make a list with five people on it. Your flow will go to nothing.
- Robert Scoble
finally got lists. looking forward to seeing what the buzz is all about.
- Bill Kinney
still waiting on lists... am not in love with GR... folder heirachy and speed drive me nuts...
- andy
Got list!! It's gonna make organizing specific followers by categories so much better and following specific tweets easier!! Customized information at your finger tips..
- Angels In Action
Twitter lists might make me change my mind. but for now, google reader is where I get all my news.
- Bob Blunk
from BuddyFeed
Is your issue against google reader or rss feed readers in general? I find my rss reader is an invaluable resource to get great information
- Pavan
I think it depends where on the wave of info you want to be. I want to create it, others will ride it. I find the stories with tools in addition to reader, then distribute them via Twitter, Facebook, etc. Hopefully, first then others on those social services will find them interesting and talk about them, distribute them and retweet them. If your content with the crowd being a filter for you, I think your right on.
- Andrew Acomb
from iPhone
Robert I just the funny thing you do not like anything Google does this days, I am actually starting to wonder if you are Anti them. First you hate Google Wav even though their are not enough people on in yet to make it worthwhile and now Reader. I really wonder sometimes.
- Rob Cairns
this is totally off the subject, but i have been noticing more and more heavy hitters on Posterous: is there something i'm missing....i just don't know if i can keep up with yet another social networking site, but am i missing out?
- Steve Borgman
Someone please wake me up when people stop grafting their hopes and dreams on Posterous, a me-too blogging tool with some novel shortcuts to author.
- Carter Rabasa
Antisocial network proposal: you start out subbed to EVERYONE. You then try to find excuses to unsub each person. First one to zero is the grump of the Internets. Keep in mind though that each person who joins automatically adds to your subscribers. :-)
- Jason Huebel
from iPhone
Wee bit on the grumpy side today, time for the joy joy helmet (:
- Kim Landwehr
openff.org webdesign concept... (1280 px wide so click through to view fullsize ) / post additional features you think are needed for the home page here!
2. Participation panel with 3 actions: join the team / donate / spread the word
- vijay
3. Latest News panel: I would suggest this to be the friendfeed embed widget for the "openff" group.
- vijay
4. Top Dev panel: Shows most active contributors according to pointers along with their latest twitter updates. The one thing our project can offer is lots of attention for our devs so promoting active devs on a leaderboard is a good way to keep the activity up and running. ( Right now, I'm calling it "dev" board for lack of a nicer shortner name but the final leaderboard will include ALL contributors including non-devs. )
- vijay
5. Scroll Alert: At the right bottom is a small msg that shows up when the viewer still has some scrolling to do on the page warning them that there is MORE content on the page that is available for them to view.
- vijay
I haven't added scrollbars to the mockup. But there will be content below the fold as always.
- vijay
i think the video should be embedded within the page.. but i guess thats the case when the page goes live.
- Gtp19
yep, video will be a pop up overlay as usual. The page behaves the usual way sites these days display content, nothing extraordinary.
- vijay
Very classy. I wonder how it'd map to a "physical" website, though.
- Tyson Key
Really like the look and how well it sticks with your logo design and color scheme. Couple of things: 1) We aren't taking monetary donations, since there's no legal entity behind OpenFF at the moment (but we probably need to consider it at some point). 2) I'm assuming the theme will scale well at different screen resolutions. If the plan is to have a static width, then it should be 1024 instead of 1280. Ideally, it should have a fluid width. 3) Did I mention I love the look? :-)
- Jason Huebel
I'l retract #2, since it just dawned on me that it's already formatted that way. :-D
- Jason Huebel
This is fixed width layout; viewable from 1024 upwards Jason.
- vijay
Sorry, I didn't get enough sleep last night. :-/
- Jason Huebel
I think one reason for the relatively low numbers of friendfeed users was that people were uncertain as to how to use it and what value it provided over other web sites. In addition to the intro video, something like the "What can you use it for?" text on the current FF home page is needed but better written and making a more compelling case for signing up.
- Rajit
This will end quickly Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
@Dan, check the group desc. We've only got the wiki going, with a direct link to it.
- Jason Huebel
What will be the licence of server software ? GPL 3 ?
- Thierry Lhôte
sigh. there's gonna be a license flame war. I'll simply say: -1 to GPL
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
for better readability bodytext has to be black (or grey) (just saying...)
- minus-one
body text 'is' gray right now minus-one; nearly the same color as this comment is on friendfeed. Why, does it need still more contrast?
- vijay
from iPhone
it's slightly on a green side here (111,120,108) maybe it's not sRGB...
- minus-one
ah! ok. no probs, I'll fix that up. thanks :D
- vijay
Vij, a sidebar with best of the day entries livestream would be cool...
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
that's a good thing to have Abi. Let's add it when we begin the coding.
- vijay
Haven't seen this before. Maybe we'll never need Openff, but if we do, this is gorgeous! Re: sidebar - like the idea functionally, worried another element will crap this up visually. It's so clean the way it is now!
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
yeah openff seems dead from where I see it. Though it really was buzzing like a beehive when I started working on this.
- vijay
The Great Google Wave invite thread. Anyone who wants an invite post your Gmail address here and anyone who has invites available please use to invite the people on this list. There are also a bunch of requests in the Invites group here: http://friendfeed.com/invites
I have a few but holding them for a few people who have already asked me. I'm at kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com btw. A pain I know but if you can, could you update your comment when you have an account or just delete your comment. Ta! :-) EDIT: Try this site for invites: http://googlewaveinvites.com/
- Kol Tregaskes
Are people on this list getting invites or at least been told they have an invite on the way? You might have to be patient, it could take a long time for one to come through.
- Kol Tregaskes
Adam, yep agree. Maybe because I did that (month ago though) helped me get mine through from Vijay so quickly!
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol, the invitation process seems to be based on nominations. For example, everytime someone nominates/invites you, you get bumped up the queue for an account until you're at the top and you get sent an invite by the team
- Ysabel Legaspi
Ysabel, ah I see, So lots of people must have nominated me. Darn, so a few users I have nominated could be waiting a looooong time. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
if that voting system is right I'm very annoyed. I asked for an invite months ago, now all the numpties are all over it I'm not going to get a look in. It's like I've been sat at the front of a shop queue and everyone's just walking right past me into the shop. I am British but I detest both queuing and waiting, so this is pretty tough going
- Toby Graham
Like most other people, yesterday I wasn't aware of that I «needed» a Google Wave invitation this badly...but now I am!!! quackofdawn at gmail dot com
- Quackofdawn
Please I want a invite :( jesi.nieves at gmail
- Jesi
from iPod
neternity@gmail.com and i promise to send a wave of 100,901 twitter followers to your doorstep each of whom will have averaged 1 tweet in their existence - this might not get me an invite but surely it will get some notice - must have that something special - my google wave invite special sauce ingredient is twitter juice PS Not to be construed as an offer, not valid in any of the 53 US states, do not try this at home, caution: contents are hot.
- Ross Button
Anyone have already a wave invite?. I'm a developers anxious to take a look at wave. jmiguel.rodriguez at gmail.com . Thank you very much in advanced!
- jmiguel rodriguez
trentono gmail com...thanks in advance, mysterious stranger...
- Trent Olson
lol at this point i gotta think that by the time an invite makes it this far down the list i may already be at the top of the official invite list but doesn't hurt to try right? marco [dot] nunez @ gmail - thanks!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I'm also trying. As Marco said, it doesn't hurt :) iamclem at gmail. thanks!
- Clément Simon
Hello, I would love to have a google wave invite too. ilteris@gmail.com thanks!
- ilteris
Oops! You said gmail address: marybaumcreative (at) gmail. Although I run marybaum@marybaum.com through gmail servers too.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from email
louisrbourque@gmail.com - an invite would be greatly appreciated, and I'll pass it on! Thanks
- Louis Bourque
from iPod
can you send me invite for google wave to i.igors (at) gmail (dot) com
- Igor Krstev
If any kind soul has an invite to spare, it would be gratefully received and shared on once GOOG get around to inviting me in. :-) The key piece of information belatedly being andy.bold@gmail.com kthxbai
- Andy Bold
Looking for one myself at alexscrivener (at) gmail (dot) com
- Alex Scrivener
I'd love an invite. I was sort of expecting to get one from Google, as I have been in all of their other betas, but to no avail :( carlton.prest@gmail.com
- Carlton Prest
Plesae send an invite! jwatson820@gmail.com
- Jonna Watson
damn, the pretty please guy will get one for sure, that steve guy @hotmail.com is likely last on the list - but we all will get one if that scobilizer guy notices that we are all here and asking and so cul cuz we are all on friendfeed - maybe if we twitter too it might help - hello google !!!!
- Ross Button
how do we know which ones are sent? I'm just doing my own thread.
- Vezquex: God of FF
I've been too busy to get on FF the last few days....figures something important happening and I missed it! I knew about Google Wave but didn't know there would be a thread to post a request. In any case, better late than never, I'd love an invite at madeliene2007 at gmail.com. :)
- Bonnie Foster
I've been on Twitter all day trying to get one, I'd love it if my day can end by me finally getting an invitation :) I'll be sure to send some invites to other people in this thread! andryou@gmail.com
- andryou
re.renus@gmail.com somebody please send me a invitation... ^_^ : )
- Emad
wimmulder@gmail.com. Am really excited to try this out for a collaborative research project I'm working on. Hoping someone has an invite to spare!
- Wim Mulder
giuliocc@gmail.com . Keen to see if we can shake M$'s cage about messaging and collaboration.
- Giulio Campobassi
Would love an invite - jonathonc at gmail.com
- Jonathon
VitaArdiyana (at) gmail (dot) com, Thanks before Kol. I will delete my comment when i have my google wave account.
- Vimala Vita
Just digging into the comments now but let me begin by saying that you did an incredible job with this thread Kol, 473 (474 after I post) comments!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Google Wave : Could anyone invite me ? : jean.charles.blondeau[at]gmail.com Thanks
- Jean-Charles
System Messages Invite Status: 17559 invite requests in the system. 7 invites confirmed as received by requester. 199 invites claimed as sent from giver.
- oliv21
How does anyone know if someone has already been invited? You could go back and edit your comment when you receive an invitation, but since that takes days, it could be ages before you know.
- marziah
I've not even had a nomination, RK. At google dot com I'm suezanne , in the event anyone wants to make a nomination. I've asked before on friendfeed. It's kind of humiliating to beg.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
i have decided that if i do indeed get an invite, i will decline, forward my gmail account to windows live and put ie back as my default browser and i will bing it
- Ross Button
@Ross: why punish yourself for something you didn't do? :)
- François Dongier
I just want some google love; just like the rest of us do; but n,o they wave at us as they have their private, invite only party; thumb to nose, fingers a waving - that's the google wave; we need a tshirt
- Ross Button
al86shaw@gmail.com :) Not expecting anything, but thanks anyway!
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Send to me plz ,,, mxina.com {a} gmail {dot} com
- Mohammad Sharifi
Has anyone received their invite? I haven't yet.
- Rodrigo
from email
I'd love an invite to Google Wave pls. non-geeky bf got one before me! that's just not cricket.. hehe :) icetigerza (at) gmail
- Kim
Hello, if there's any invite left, you'll make me more than happy ;-) matthieu.beauval [at] gmail [dot] com, thank you !
- matthieu beauval
If there are still invites left daryl@learnscape.com.au
- Daryl Hunt on FF
Of all the people posting here the chances of me getting an invite are slim but I'm still willing to try. If someone wants to shoot an invite over to jcallahan126@gmail.com I'd REALLY appreciate it.
- John
from iPhone
Aww Did I miss the Wave of invites? Come on Kol... Hook me up! :)
- Walt Ruppar
It looks like it, although you might be able to use the hyperlink on the front of the Wave homepage to request an invitation, if it's still available.
- Tyson Key
Google Wave Anybody? I needz one plz... walt {dot} ruppar {at} gmail [dot] com
- Walt Ruppar
from iPhone
I'll give this a try: j.linkola at gmail - anyone have invites left?
- Jussi Linkola
Anyone can provide a Google Wave invite? bmtrocks@gmail.com
- Brian
Hi guys I realy Waiting impatiently, but still have no invite... can anybody sent me invite please please simplisityzehra@gmail.com thanks in advance
- Zehra
firatdemirel at gmail.com just needs an invite for Gwave. Thanks.
- Fırat DEMİREL
Does anyone have an invite to share? Can you send it to v9y.rec at gmail.com please? Thanks.
- Vinay | विनय
Can somebody send an ivitation to terror@gmail.com . Thanks in advance.
- Yiğit
Please send an invitation to me at trivedi.knz@gmail.com. I got tired waiting.
- Kandarp Trivedi
I'll be glad to invite others on this thread once I get mine. Thanks in advance.. Keep the thread alive.
- Kandarp Trivedi
rodgerdb@gmail.com ha oh man am I late to this thread =( Here's to hoping!
- Rodger Ballard
really need one, would be so grateful thacker90184@gmail.com
- brandon
I want Google Wave invite too, please sent it to: ric4p5 {at} gmail [dot] com Thanks
- jose manuel
If anyone has invites, could I have one please? tekked - gmail.com
- TechKid
In case there is still someone with spare invitations: piotr.byzia at gmail.com
- Piotr Byzia
teeeya@gmail.com - Anyone with a sparee invite and feeling generous! (thank you thank you thank you in advance!!!) :D
- Simply Teeeya
Anyone with a spare would be my hero! Someone bought out my buddy who was going to give me one. robert@idealfusion.com
- Robert Coombs
antonyat AT gmail DOT com If anyone sends me an invite, I thank you greatly - if I receive an invite, I'll make sure to return to this thread :).
- Antony Jepson