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Mahdi
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رونوشت به وارش و پرستو :)) - Mahdi
واااااااي تجمع جوجه اي :))) - ♣ ♣ ♣
I had some but sadly they died quickly. :| - Faraz Mullick
پرستو حالا این تجمع قانونی است یا غیر قانونی ؟؟ - Mahdi
! چه رشیدن ماشالله - Noosha
نوشا پرورش اندام کار میکنند :)) - Mahdi
:)))) - Noosha
ممنون, تشکر - Scorpio
قابل نداره اسکرپیو - Mahdi
لطف دارید - Scorpio from IM
دست راستی: سه تفنگ دار - امـ‌ی‌ــر
به قیافشون هم میاد که خیلی‌ عصبی باشند :) - Mahdi
:))) این سه تفنگدارمنتظر دارتنیان هستن انگار :)))) - وارَش
چه جوجه سبزا خوشگل :))) نازی - وارَش
وارش فید رو سیاسی کردی رفت :دی - Mahdi
من فکر میکنم رنگی رنگیا اومدن ثبت نام مهد کودک . چه جیک جیکی هم میکنن. سرم رفت :))) - وارَش
جّو فید رو عوض کردی وارش خیلی‌ زرنگی :دی - Mahdi
:-" - وارَش
اون سبزاش عشقه :)) - B-gharar
نصیبه جان چه شخم هایی زدی:)) - وارَش
Paul Buchheit
Chrome OS will help kill Silverlight and other non-open tech, preventing msft and others from recapturing the web. (though I expect that it will support Flash by necessity)
Good point. - Robert Scoble
I hope it doesn't. After all we need good media delivery platforms. - Swaroop
yeah, nobody really needs flash. kill it. - zio bonino
Chrome OS might be a compelling case for SVG/<canvas> + <audio> tag replacements for flash. Dunno what SVG's perf is like on WebKit tho. - Matt M (inactive)
Microsoft will port it. It's all about codecs & DRM. Ogg Theora isn't all that great. - Rodfather
Is that Steve Jobs disguised as Zio ? - Swaroop
@Swaroop Yes, we do. Like HTML5. - Benjamin Dobson
@Swaroop eh eh, I've got flash disabled on all my systems :) - zio bonino
@Benjamin I'd prefer HTML web apps over native apps anyday. But it'll take time for it to mature - Swaroop
Rodfather, I don't think that will be an option for msft :). If Chrome is built the way I would do it, there is no installation per-se -- everything runs in the browser and the config in stored in the cloud (and cached locally). The computer is a pure appliance. - Paul Buchheit
@Zio You're the real Steve Jobs - Swaroop
Microsoft moves much too slow to force new standards these days. - Louis Gray
@Louis: IE8 flunking ACID test :) - Swaroop
What about more standard codecs like h.264? That isn't open and is in hardware already. - Rodfather
h.264 is established and must be in there, but it's not a platform like Silverlight is. - Paul Buchheit
I know some of the guys behind silverlight. It is some great technology. Too bad it's from Microsoft and is closed. - Joe Beda from iPhone
A world with no Flash and Silverlight. I can't wait. - Paul Grav
Yeah, it's too bad they didn't open-source it. This stuff with Mono is silly -- if you want to make a real standard you need to make the real implementation be open. - Paul Buchheit
MS are about 10 years too late with Silverlight. And they'll most likely be dragged kicking and screaming into supporting HTML5. - Paul Grav
Zio sez (hopefully humorously): "yeah, nobody really needs flash. kill it" -- have you ever watched a single YouTube video in your life? Like seventeen gazillion other people across the wired world. yeah, you're right, nobody needs Flash. ha! - .LAG liked that
Remember Dave Clark in 1992, "We reject kings, presidents and voting. We believe in rough consensus and running code." - Guy Vander Heyden
.LAG: most YouTube videos are playable without Flash now. My iPhone plays most of them and it doesn't have Flash. Certainly by the time the Google OS came out YouTube would be converted completely to non-Flash capability. - Robert Scoble
Robert: The youtube flash application helps read the flv files on Youtube's servers and provides a UI (decoder too). - Swaroop
Even Google admits they're not sure I'd bit for bit html5 video is less bandwitj consuming than flash. And flash isn't just media delivery, also interesting games and apps like tonepad, splicemusic.com's online sequencer, etc (I'm musically inclined, so most of my examples will be along that line) and please don't suggest we redo it all in java - Ed F from Nambu
Maybe we'll see commercials encoded in movies if everything is open. - Rodfather
Flash is too established to kill off right now, so I'd be surprised if Chrome didn't include flash support. It will take many years to get rid of that thing. First they need to fix the standard browser to not be so broken (lack of video, multi-file upload, etc), then they need everyone to switch to the new html5 solutions. - Paul Buchheit
Scoble ...that may be true, and YouTube plays on my Pre without Flash (yet)...but that doesn't mean that "nobody needs Flash." really? what would replace it? - .LAG liked that
So Google's NaCl http://code.google.com/p... (now integrated within Chrome/Chromium) was just a temporary workaround, right? - Jérôme
Use HTML 5 instead! - Minh Bui
Is it just me or does Native Client (NaCl) remind you of the Microsoft Active X approach? - Daniel Chow
But who prevents Google from taking over the net? - Andreas
youtube videos play on iPhone/iPod Touch as they are higher res mp4 files NOT flv files. It was a big deal when Steve negotiated that deal with youtube. - vijay
You have Moonlight to run Silverlight applications in Linux. Not perfect, but then an application made on Silverlight is "not perfect" by definition - Marcos Marado
The point here is that Google has no motivation to include Silverlight on these machines, and installing software likely won't be an option (it's a web appliance), so it will be absent from a lot of netbooks, just as it is absent from iPhones. That cuts into market share, which is a bad thing for a platform that is trying to compete with more universal tech like Flash and HTML.... more... - Paul Buchheit
@DanielChow: NaCl has very little overlap with ActiveX, apart from running native code. It runs in a provably safe way, and explicitly does *not* allow it to access arbitrary host APIs. But it can be quite useful when you need to run code that would be too slow in Javascript (even on v8): e.g., heavy encryption/decryption, possibly codecs, definitely game physics, and so forth. - Joel Webber
There is a time and a place for Flash and Silverlight so I hope it will run it. There are simply some things you can do which aren't possible, or practical in html/css/javascript. - Steve Temple
Paul: why wouldn't Chrome OS come with Moonlight? And if not, why wouldn't you be able to just install it? And third, why the hell would people want Moonlight for? I never installed it and not even once felt the need to! - Marcos Marado from fftogo
because of moonlight http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlig... the potential userbase of silverlight is greatly improved, agree that projects which don't consider compatibility are limiting their potential - Mike Chelen
@mindboosternoori Ryanair site uses silverlight: http://www.ryanair.com/site... that's the only website I know that uses it - for this you would need moonlight :) - Ihar Mahaniok
Flash is needed for the google os to be useful in education. Many education based websites are flash based. - Willowdale
@Paul "Google is probably paying OEMs to ship with this OS, so instead of paying $x/machine to include windows XP, they will get paid $y/machine to include Chrome." - paying present tense, already? Isn't it enough for OEMs not to have to pay hefty licenses to Redmond, etc., while being able to ship with a free, stable OS+browser combo; they need to be paid to do that as well? - ianf ⌘
I sure hope so. I think the wide array of JavaScript libraries have been killing Flash for years. Silverlight was never really a player. The only think keeping Flash afloat is video - Scott Radcliff
I don't know what's under the hood of Silverlight (nobody knows), but Flash is basically a sprite engine controlled by Actionscript, which is basically an adapted version of Javascript anyway. It's nicely packaged though, and has an army of developers, so it won't go away that easily, at least not until there are Flash-to-Canvas/ HTML5 porting tools/ translators and the like. - ianf ⌘
to follow that logic...photoshop is needed as well - Chris Hofmann
somebody call me when http://playboyarchive.com is working in Chrome OS (it's currently implemented in Silverlight) - Karim
If it gains any traction at all, MS will just make Silverlight version that will run on Google OS. Sure google could block it, but they haven't done so with the Chrome browser. - Jeff Weber
Interesting. I doubt the Google OS will get that big anytime soon though. - Scott Radcliff from email
Silverlight doesn't have a chance now...I wonder what would Adobe Air do. - Saad Kamal
not really, if google want to be open then they will need a plugin architecture for it and then MS could just port for it. I really don't see this troubling mainstream users any time soon. - Darren Stuart
Though I agree with the view that MS monopoly may erode as alternative devices get adoption over PC/Notebook, and these devices will mostly run on open source OS, but it may take years to create a significant change in every day usage of normal users. In the end, OS choice is mostly done by manufacturers, and they would be happy to get paid by open source vendors for putting their OS on... more... - Kaan Bingol
People want media. Hulu, Netflix, Kindle, iTunes, etc. They need to address that or they are DOA. - Hayes Haugen
Hayes, what makes you think it will lack media support? - Paul Buchheit
I don't think it will lack licensed media support but what deals they are able to make will be crucial. - Hayes Haugen
Hayes, i thought you were going to say that Netflix was using Silverlight. ;-) - Karim
Yes, they are, what is their deal with MSFT? Can they do non Silverlight distribution? - Hayes Haugen
i believe the Netflix non-Silverlight distribution is a format called "DVD" that works over the "Snail Mail" protocol. ;-) but clearly if Google is paying OEMs to install Chrome OS, they can pay Netflix to go back to Flash which Chrome OS will probably support "by necessity" ;-) - Karim
How can Google make money from Chrome OS? Or does it want to make money from it except through advertisement? I still can not imagine that all software and service are free and sponsored by advertisements. - Derek Wei
All Chrome OS questions are answered by today's Fake Steve Jobs ;) - Hayes Haugen
Is there a need to make money? If more and more people eschew desktop offline applications in favor of online web based apps, it means more pageviews, more eyeballs, more advertising inventory, plus has the side effect of undermining a big competitor's cash cow. - Ray Cromwell
That's the key, Google wants everything online. They figure the more people online, the stronger they become, and the more money they make. At least that what was said at the Chrome launch. - Scott Radcliff from email
I'm amused that the "backwards compatibility" argument against alternative operating systems has slowly turned into "does it support flash", and when you unpack that it really means "does it play YouTube". I suspect Google will make sure ChromeOS cna play YouTube and they don't need Flash to make sure of it. - Nick Lothian
Is it possible that Microsoft will write Office for the Web using Volta instead of Silverlight? Could be a showcase announcement for their attack on GWT - Ray Cromwell
I think Microsoft is going to focus less on the front-end of the web and more on the back-end, middle tier and database sides. Azure is a big deal that consumers aren't talking about because it's not flashy but will be pretty important to developers (and especially enterprise-level applications) when it's finally ready because everything becomes an interface to the cloud. Microsoft is... more... - Lindsay
Azure looks really cool. Hint: so did Blackbird. - Michael R. Bernstein
lol blackbird (scary redmond flashback) - a good example of azure platform utilization can be seen via jon udell's elmcity project - http://blog.jonudell.net/elmcity... - mike "glemak" dunn
Nosense, I want silverlight, flash, html and any other technology in my desktop & mobile phone. Silverlight? yes, there you can develop under Python, Ruby et al, instead of the outdated javascript. - Sebastian Wain
It looks like with Native Client, you should be able to write your Chrome OS app in any language you feel like. So far, they have some examples in C/C++, but one of the things they ported is a Lua interpreter. If Adobe isn't going to invest heavily in fixing the show-stopping bugs on non-Windows versions of Flash, it's inevitably going to die, and there's really nothing either Google or Apple can do even if they wanted to support Flash better. - Victor Ganata
...ActionScript3 is ECMASCript-compliant. I know nothing about standards bodies, and shii like that, but what if Adobe dropped ActionScript and said, "You can now use pure Javascript to build Flash applications..." It wouldn't be a big leap. I'm pretty sure that would shut-up all the Flash haters. And to the folks who say Flash is hanging around just because of video...well, video is... more... - .LAG liked that
Actionscript is just the glue for the more advanced what-iffy graphic functionality of Flash. They can not drop it for Javascript, because it contains additional graphic primitives that JS lacks. But it's not the JS-or-Actionscript that makes it a target for hate, it's other things. Nobody denies that it's pretty capable, but it is also badly written, eats up memory like no other, makes... more... - ianf ⌘
I like this post! - Mohammad Abdurraafay from iPhone
I honestly don't know how necessary Flash is. Apple seems to be doing fine without supporting it. But certainly Gnash and Swfdec should be implementable on Chrome OS. The fact is that without Adobe's full support on a given platform, Flash apps will always be second class citizens on alternate platforms, and so far, there's no indication that Adobe is interested in fully supporting any platform other than Windows. - Victor Ganata
ianf ...you bring up great points about Flash's detriments, as does Victor, but until there's a better way to bring video to the Web, I can't see it disappearing. Adobe seems to keep improving the Flash VM, hopefully they'll address those CPU-hogging issues and make a more efficent runtime. Yeah, I hate hearing the fans kick-in when visiting a Flash-heavy site too. <sigh> - .LAG liked that
alternative to flash video such as ... html5 :) (requires ff3.5) http://www.dailymotion.com/openvid... - Mike Chelen from IM
that only covers video and audio... *sigh* - Ed F from IM
Ed, only??? thats one of the main reasons cited for the continued requirement of flash on popular sites like youtube - Mike Chelen
I know, and it seems I'm the only one who mentions Flash's other uses... :-/ - Ed F from IM
Ed, those other uses can be accomplished through pure Javascript, video was the last remaining stumbling block - Mike Chelen
Still waiting on non-Flash recreations of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Well aware of how someone mentioned higher up how you can combine javascript and svg to get nifty flash-like effects. I want apps like that though ^ Only real alternatives I've seen are Java-based ones, and those runs even slower than Flash. - Ed F
Pardon me, but the OP is a ridiculous conclusion. For that to be the case, Chrome OS would have to kill Windows, OS X, etc altogether. Paul, I understand your viewpoint as being an ex-Google person, but that's just NOT going to happen. Right now the video specification from HTML5 has been dropped because of an impasse, meaning that we may be transitioning from 1 closed-source boss - Flash - to another - H264. Good luck. - LANjackal
But why do these type of apps have to be written in Flash at all? You can easily do the same thing in C, C++, ObjC, Python, Ruby, etc., with the Native Client API that they're building for Chrome. http://code.google.com/p... - Victor Ganata
write them yourself then. until then, I'll stick with desktop apps or Flash equivalents - Ed F from IM
I'm just saying, it's not like Flash is the end-all/be-all. As Apple well demonstrates, some people can live quite well without it. - Victor Ganata
Victor ...i think the answer to the 'why do these have to be written in Flash at all' question is because Flash is installed on such a significant portion of Web browsers. But I recall that Adobe Flex had a competitor, Laszlo/OpenLaszlo, which compiled apps to SWF or to Javascript. Who's to say that Adobe doesn't have the same capability of making SWF apps into JS ones? On one hand, it... more... - .LAG liked that
Ed, such apps are possible with Javascript and HTML5 multimedia features, the question will be how difficult developers find it, and whether the performance is fast enough - Mike Chelen
LANjackal, there is a question of degree in that Flash + H264 uses proprietary software and codec, while HTML5 + H264 requires only the codec. while OGV is no longer part of the spec, it can certainly still be used to have completely open video formats, and recent comparisons have shown it performs well http://people.xiph.org/~maikme... - Mike Chelen
Silverlight's 3 is looking pretty impressive today but tend to agree - Charlie Anzman
still haven't updated yet. Busy with something on Firefox - LANjackal from IM
What everybody seems to be missing about Flash is that it works because there is one implementation which is mostly backwards-compatible and the same across platforms. It beat Java because, among other reasons, Java just didn't work the same across JVMs and platforms. The problem with HTML5 is that it will have a different implementation for every browser, and that means your app/game... more... - Gabe
Yeah the video spec for HTML5 is currently a disaster - LANjackal from IM
Paul, don't you prefer brutal competition SL vs. Flash vs. standards bring to the table by definition? Or are you more into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - 2020 Google Union - type of ideology? - Kari Honkanen
Kari, I don't understand your question. Competition is good, but with open-source we get that -- no need for flash or SL. - Paul Buchheit
Paul, no, we don't get the same level of competition with open-source only. As long as there's an opportunity for big gains (like in this case to bridge the gap before html 5 era...to satisfy demand), there will be innovations driven by that. I believe we all benefit from a free market economy that includes commercial, closed source, innovations. I am more scared of the possible future... more... - Kari Honkanen
I agree that the future is neither open nor closed, but a mixture of the 2. Been preaching that for a while now, but then again there are the fanatics on either side who can't see anything other than a homogenous future - LANjackal from IM
I wouldn't worry too much amount multimedia. By exposing WebGL, (and hopefully OpenCL), you can offload a lot of compute intensive stuff onto the GPU via GPGPU techniques, and NativeClient is there to take up the rest of the slack, but the for the vast majority of iPhone-like games, I'm willing to bet V8 Javascript on a modern processor is more than enough. That leaves licensing issues... more... - Ray Cromwell
Paul, so are you saying that Google will block both Flash and Silverlight from ChromeOS? That's a new take on 'open.' - Cliff Gerrish
MSFT next smart move: get Chrome OS (it's BSD licensed), inject IE9 and Silverlight into it and go benchmark against Chrome :) - Claudio Cicali
MSFT sucks Claudio :) - Orlando Pozo
@caludio: They've already done that, somewhat. Silverlight 4 Beta supports Chrome. However I'm pretty sure it's probably technically impractical to run another browser atop Chrome OS anyway - LANjackal from IM
Something feels contradictory about a system touted to 'kill' competitors being 'open'. Sounds almost predatory to me. - Karoli
If the concept of open source didn't allow for competitive business plans then quite a few companies that depend on it wouldn't exist. The "happy smiley" image most FOSS zealots promote isn't reflective of reality. There will always be competition, even among the free - LANjackal from IM
I'm not opposed to non-open software, but for OS, browser, etc I prefer that it be open. Cliff, Google isn't going to "block" anything, but they can certainly choose what to include, and my guess is that they won't include SL. As Claudio points out, MSFT can make their own version of ChromeOS that includes SL, which is why open source software is nice (it can't be crippled too much or else someone will fork it). - Paul Buchheit
I have heard somewhere that Fash uses it's own port where Silverlight works over the HTTP port. That's why Netflix works so well. To that, Flash costs more on a sever side because providers can charge more for that port traffic. Could it come down to who is cheaper? (I am fully prepared to be wrong). - Johnny
Johnny, they both use HTTP -- there's no difference there. - Paul Buchheit
Is Chrome OS BSD-licensed? I thought it was using a Linux kernel. - Victor Ganata
@Paul - well, Flash can do P2P stuff over non-HTTP posts, but that is very new (Flash 10 I think). The cost isn't affected anyway. - Nick Lothian
My understanding is that netbooks would have to be absurdly popular for Chrome OS to make a dent in the popularity of Flash or SL. - Gabe
not rly, the defeat of Flash & SL depends on the rise of HTML5, which will b supported by multiple browsers. Unfortunately spec disagreements r holding that up. That's another advantage of closed systems : fewer cooks often makes the broth get done faster lol - LANjackal from IM
it is possible to have smaller groups for open source software, such as google's own gears api http://code.google.com/apis... - Mike Chelen
How is HTML 5 going to defeat Flash and SL? I haven't used it, but I don't see anything in the spec that looks like it could compare. - Gabe
@Gabe - what do you think HTML5 is missing? It does video, drawing, local storage, "threading" via WebWorkers. The biggest hole I'm aware of is the lack of access to webcams & microphones. What have I missed? - Nick Lothian
HTML 5's not "missing" much in terms of its ambition. What it's missing is a consensus among its contributors. Flash and SL have gone through several iterations while HTML 5's been sitting there - LANjackal from IM
Nick: When you say HTML 5 has "drawing", are you refering to the Canvas element? I would not consider an immediate-mode procedural raster drawing library to be much of a competitor to retained-mode declarative vector libraries like SVG or Silverlight. Programming with the Canvas tag is sort of the equivalent of programming in assembly language for bitmaps. - Gabe
@Gabe: I think you've got it upside-down. A Canvas-style API is the fundamental basis on which you can build a retained mode structure like SVG, et al. If a platform includes a retained-mode library as a convenience, so be it. You can build SVG on Canvas, but not the other way around (hacks like IECanvas notwithstanding -- they have horrible performance characteristics and are a nasty abstraction inversion). - Joel Webber
So, if Moonlight (Mono) runs on linux -- Will google make sure it doesn't work on Chrome OS? - Cliff Gerrish
No they won't, because it Silverlight already runs on Chrome as of Beta 4 - LANjackal from IM
Joel: I don't think you said anything contrary to what I said. I just don't understand why any programmer would want to waste time writing an app using a low-level library when I could use a high-level library that implements everything for me. - Gabe
@Gabe - I agree, and people are implementing those libraries now. See http://raphaeljs.com/ for example. Also, don't underestimate the convenience factor. I don't own any Flash development tools, but my text editor works pretty well for Canvas+JS based stuff. - Nick Lothian
Nick: Didn't the author of raphael have some massive rant about how bad the Canvas element is? And I don't have any Flash dev tools either, but I use a text editor for most of my Silverlight development. It is incredibly convenient to be able to type something like <DataGrid ItemsSource="{Binding tabledata}"/> into a text editor and not have to create the data grid myself. - Gabe
Why is Flash a "necessity" for an OS? I enjoy what flash can do, but it is like putting pimped out leather Oldsmobile seats in a Ferrari. It would definitely be nice, but certainly not a necessity. - Dan Douglass
Early post goof up. To your original point, I agree. I like how Google is approaching the internet space with web apps that can be run with out a bloated browser. - Dan Douglass
Dan Douglass: Flash is necessary because so many web sites rely on it. How many people would want to get a netbook that couldn't play FaceBook games or watch YouTube videos? Of course Google is in the unique position of being able to make YouTube work on ChromeOS without Flash, but they probably can't do anything about Hulu, Vimeo, or any of the other video sites out there that require Flash. - Gabe
Anyone else think Joy is Spam? - Chris Myles
already reported it yesterday :) - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ from IM
Mahdi
rainy in the green - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
rainy in the green
rainy in the green
rainy in the green
آخی نی نی روی تاب میترسه - وارَش
نمی ترسه - Mahdi
عشق دختربچه ای ها - NαrgeS
یه جورایی آره :)) - Mahdi
ولی خوش سلیقه ای در انتخاب عکس - NαrgeS
خواهش می‌کنم نظر لطفتونه - Mahdi
بسیار زیبا . ممنون - RokhSaare
خواهش می‌کنم رخساره - Mahdi
Bret Taylor
This was the alternative photo for the blog post. I think it is awesome, but I was in the minority :)
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I like how Jeanette is FriendFeed. :) - EricaJoy
wow where is my comment!! - abdellah
I have to say... very cool picture ... that is funny. - Marika Dye
abdellah: no homophobic comments on my posts. I delete them. - Bret Taylor
oh god!! it wasn't homophobic - abdellah
@abdellah It seemed that way. - EricaJoy
I think abdellah's original comment was asking why the couple WASN'T same-sex. - Brian Chang
so please take note of the following, first it wasn't intended to be homophobic I was just to make a point that not all couple are hetero, second point accusing my comment beeing homophobic without refrefing to me in dm or something else is abusive. - abdellah
can't we all just get along - Gabe Diaz
@brian you get it, but what can I say, I think that some jump to earlier to conclusion, @bret hope that as you deleted my comment you will edit or delete your owns refering to me as some one who make homophob comment thank you. - abdellah
haha, cute picture!! it's complicated! - Susan Beebe
misunderstanding much? - Rahsheen
I agree, it is awesome! (not biased, whatsoever) - Jeanette Bosman
@Erica!! really all what I saay was "why the pic wasn't a pic of a homo couple a man and man) damn FF is too masculin to be shown as women that all, for me there is nothing homophob in my sentence, but accusing me beeing homophob is really sad. but now I have to ask a question is it homophob to replace the pic above by a pic showing a homo couple, this is really sad, for me it is the... more... - abdellah
abdellah, if you don't mind my asking, is English your first language? I think part of what may have caused the misunderstanding is that, at least in the parts of the United States where I have lived, the term "homo" is almost always used in a derogatory sense. - Brian Chang
ha ok, yes english is my 2 language, homo is a french terms= gay, there is nothing degratory in saying homosexual. - abdellah
Told you it was a misunderstanding...LOL - Rahsheen
awesome bret! luv it! - Jason Pollock
I've been dying for FB to drink some of the FF cool aid!! Let's hope the integration or technology transfer goes smoothly. Can't wait to see what comes out of it. I think it is a testament to the FB team that they saw and appreciated the same power off FF we all did. - Phil Ashman
Josh Haley
"Just dance and flail around" - Josh Haley
Oh my god, it's full of win! - (Curtis/Alan) Jackson
Full size also available: http://joshhaley.soup.io/post... - Josh Haley
And there goes my early evening. - Josh Haley
reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... "I say sexy things to myself when I'm dancin'." - Lindsay
Whoa, that's high art right there, Lindsay ;) - Josh Haley
Yes, the internet gives birth to amazing things, Josh! :) - Lindsay
Hooooooooo! ~LOL~ Josh, first the meet-up with Jason today, now this. You people are on a roll :D - Micah
can't....stop.....rolling..... - Josh Haley
Goooooooood morning, Dancing Cats! - (Curtis/Alan) Jackson
HAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! - vijay
Nice work. - Brent - Yes I am
Trust Haley to serve up a dose of WIN everyday :D - vijay
Hmm.. the guy in the pic is a straight edge.. unlikely to be a rave ;) Tho I do have "play that funky music" running in my head when I look at the cats >.< - alphaxion
vijay is too kind. - Josh Haley
FFunder bumpage - Josh Haley from iPhone
<REDACTED> :D - Micah
Oh. my. - Trish Haley
my oh my - Josh Haley
Paul Buchheit
Facebook Begins Testing Facebook Lite, A Faster Simpler Version Of The Service - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Facebook Begins Testing Facebook Lite, A Faster Simpler Version Of The Service
I hope my account gets this soon :) - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
heh, so did you know about this paul? :) - MG Siegler
Hmm. - Micah
Someone mentioned it earlier today. It sounds very promising. - Paul Buchheit
It looks like a FriendFeed-version-of-Facebook to me :-) - Florin Grozea
is it against twitter? :)) - K.D.
thx paul :) - MG Siegler
if only google and fb got a long - :}(o|O){:
If this is what I think it is...well done, sir. Rabbit out of a hat. - Vezquex
That's good. - Madhav Tripathi
twitter copy! :) I want to be a beta tester - Susan Beebe
Scoble, Alex Scoble
Is it wrong for me to feel a certain sense of betrayal? I didn't spend all my time here making connections, adding in interesting content and trying to get friends to join so that friendfeed would get acquired by Facebook.
I guess I should be glad that I made a bunch of new friends here and have learned a lot, but I just wish that the guys at friendfeed hadn't sold out to a company that doesn't really need what friendfeed has. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I think betrayal is the word of the day around here. - Akiva
Meh - Andrew Roche
Whatever, Chris, I'm not amused. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
@Alex: I completely agree... and I haven't been and won't ever be on Facebook... - Harold
not wrong at all. I actually feel a little hurt. - Jim is digging out.
Yeah, I think betrayed is a good description... - Lindsay
I guess we are all betrayed - in certain terms.. but FB should have done its market research before it got this property. Most of the USERS are not happy with FB type of connections or that property , so we left and looked for something better, it was FF. Now a new hunt will begin ! - Peter Dawson
I think a lot of us feel betrayed. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
What did you do it for then? - George F. Snell III
I think it's too soon to feel betrayed. This interview made me feel a lot better about the whole deal: http://bit.ly/PReef - Adam Reyher from Alert Thingy
Yeah. That's excatly how I feel. - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
Throws a sheep at Alex... Yeah, that wasn't much fun. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed
I share your sentiments in many ways. I have been proud to tell others who had no idea that FF existed how good it is (lets hope not was!) Lets hope they keep the spirit alive. By the way the minute I see any target 'phorm' style advertising, I am off to find a new up and coming. I wont run to Tumblr yet but I do have one foot in already, just in case. - Kevin J Hatton
Feeling a bit of betrayal, or unhappiness atleast. Have a Facebook account but rarely use it since it's a walled garden. Preferred Friendfeed for better technology, organization, but even more so it's openness! - LonelyBob
I don't give 2 cents if that's wrong or not but I feel betrayed. - vijay
Peter, I doubt FB gives a crap about FF users. FB wanted the talent that worked at FF, not the product. - Jeff P. Henderson
I agree with Cecily that betrayal is a strong word. I have always understood that FriendFeed is a free service, thus I can't claim control over it. Though, really, I wonder what s going to happen to my thousands of likes, comments, posts, etc. - James Rishabh Mishra
:-) + :-( - Majento
Completely concur with you Alex. Just goes to show maybe there is room for another platform... - Arleen Boyd
As I said elsewhere, this was a talent + buzz acquisition. I sorta wish I could download my FF history and host it on my own server with SweetCron or something. - Anthony Citrano
+1 Alex. EndFeed's the word... well, how about everybody grieves for 5 minutes, then gets the search for greener pastures under way. There was plenty to be improved about FriendFeed (been saying that since well before this announcement), so I just hope that someone else has the databasing/real-time wherewithal to build something like this, improved. - Alex Schleber
Facebook doesn't even give a crap about their own users - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
Do any of these sites give a crap though Alex? I understand what you are saying and how it makes you feel this way, but I realised a long time ago.. they are ALL businesses and the bottom line is NO they don't give a crap... because they are NOT depending on you to be ok.. - Rob Sellen :o)
friendfeed at least acted as though they gave a crap...at least until today. And there's nothing about being a business that says "crapping on your customers is OK". Business is business does not equal "screw your customers to make a buck". - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
That and stunned. Lately I've been describing Friendfeed to the uninitiated as "a facebook without all the crap." Unfortunately, it looks like now it'll just be integrated into all the crap, if kept at all. That said, congratulations to the FF team - this is a big win for them and they deserve a lot of kudos. I look forward to the web apps they come up with in the future. - Chris Rogers
"Is it wrong for me to feel a certain sense of betrayal?" - in an emotional sense, no. In a literal sense, yes, unless you can show me where FriendFeed made a commitment to you that they'd never change in a way that didn't fit your ideals for the service. - Edward Coffey
i'm just hoping they will keep friendfeed separate and use it as a testing ground for new features. - Edgar Rodríguez
They made a commitment to us when they built a service that wasn't called Facebook or Twitter. They made a commitment to us when they listened to our feedback and participated in our feeds. They made a commitment to us with their actions. A commitment that has been forever shattered with their deal with the internet equivalent of the devil. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
Lindsey is right.. the thing is Alex... friendfeed is STILL here... ;o) YOU are still here... - Rob Sellen :o)
Not for long, Rob. I give friendfeed a year tops. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
And forget about any improvements to the site. You know that the team will be much too busy trying to figure out what the next iteration of Facebook should look like. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
Yep , definitely a sense of foreboding there ... "for the time being" - Tom Horn
I can empathize with these sentiments, but Social Media is a set of tools--I appreciate the connections I make, but I'm not getting too emotionally worked-up about the tools changing. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
why? friendfeed.com is not going anywhere is it... no reason this place couldn't stay.. what if they LOCKED friendfeed users in now.. said.. we WILL reward you users for helping us, testing things for us etc... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Rob...did you not notice who bought them? Facebook is known for doing dick for their users. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm sure FF is going away one way or another; there's no way that the combined company is going to keep developing full steam ahead on both products. Is it wrong to feel betrayed? I don't know. I don't personally feel betrayed, but I guess I'm not nearly as invested in FF as you and others are. I do think the end result may be something positive though; the ability to interact with the larger FB community on this level is something that could be truly wonderful. Then again, it might just end in tears... - Tristan Seligmann
"...internet equivalent of the devil" - ohh-kayy...*backs away slowly* - Edward Coffey
betrayal isn't the word i feel. it's just business. i do agree with Anthony Citrano: I wonder if there's a way to pull all of my stuff out of FF and put it on my own machine. the year I've spent here, and the 2+ years on Twitter and FB, have been to the detrimiment of my own writing and content creation. The thing about all social media is they depend on users to fill their cyber-vessels with content, and then they make a living off of that...but it's pretty difficult for you to reclaim your "stuff" later. - .LAG liked that
If Google's motto is "do no evil" then Facebook's motto is "do whatever we want to our customers, even when it makes absolutely no sense"...yeah, I'd consider that to be bordering on evil. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I did Alex.. Facebook sucks in many ways, they treat users like shit... BUT does this deal mean the actual end of frienfeed.com < the domain etc... what about if this place is used like a testing place and kept here? who knows? - Rob Sellen :o)
Ironic that! ToS & privacy & UCG & bandwidth & yet how much of that can be measured without actuarial measurements of packet flow? Not surprised based on much of the commentary the past 18 months. Attribution & authenticity matters. - Scott Moskowitz from iPhone
I think betrayal is appropriate - the FB community is NOT the FF community. Even if they make it better, or build something completely new, they will at some point shut down or gut what they have here. - Jennifer Dittrich
As long as my stuff is still indexed, I don't really care. I love Facebook - and I love watching my real friends interact with my Internet friends. :) - Mona Nomura
FWIW TXT is a bigger "content" biz than music, movies, games combined ... Yet this was not a predictable exit? Come on ... Said many times - what is a fair split for UCG & those that skim the packet flow? - Scott Moskowitz from iPhone
Betrayal is definitely appropriate. So is apprehension and a little bit of anger. - Mike Lewis
I wouldn't worry about Facebook integrating your FriendFeed content into Facebook; that doesn't seem very likely to me. - Tristan Seligmann
I feel you, Alex, and dread what is to come. But at the same time, seeing the reported terms of the deal, I don't think I would have turned it down either. - Michael W. May
Alex - Think you'd have to agree (despite the fact we don't know everything) that they were smart. On the other hand, it's pretty obvious you're not alone in your sentiments (Funny - posted this to Robert's stream first by boo-boo :) - Charlie Anzman
Alex, I feel your pain - but someone was going to acquire FriendFeed. It was inevitable. I'm just glad Facebook didn't buy Twitter. - Bill Sodeman
I would rather that Google bought friendfeed and Facebook acquired Twitter. That would have been justice. This...this is a travesty. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
So would I alex..but it never happened.. - Rob Sellen :o)
Do you think Microsoft finish the job and eat Facebook? - τorƍue
:( - Martha
pea brings up an interesting point - pseudonymity is allowed by FF, disallowed by Facebook.And what of the FF groups? - Richard Walker
τorƍue, or worse - Oracle buying out Facebook. hehe - imabonehead
follow the money - Steve Cleary
I love the way FriendFeed works, I hate Facebook interfaces. I wish there was another FriendFeed-like service to jump to. - Amit Morson
I don't think it's wrong to feel betrayed. If Facebook bought Twitter, honestly I would feel the same way. I think they're going to shutter the store here, which is kind of sad, but we'll see.... - matt singley
My fears are threefold. I fear unavoidable unwanted integration. I fear the addition of the awful Facebook TOS, and I fear the loss of the community. That last one is the big one. - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
Joe, perhaps FB may change their TOS... - Bill Sodeman
my sense of betrayal is so strong that I made this --->- http://bit.ly/A0jWq - vijay
It's all about the money, It's all about the dum dum didudumdum, I don't think it's funny... - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Bill, that is a nice thought but it is very doubtful. It would solve a lot of the problem I have with them if they did though. I seriously just don't want to lose the awesome community that has built up here. I mean without FF how would I keep up with Alex, its not like I live in the same town....oh wait /stalkermodeactivate! - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
If you find any decent asylum, Ryo, please check a room for me, as well, please. - Zackatoustra from email
Guess we didn't read the Terms of Service carefully enough. :-( - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I wish it was Twitter, Google, even Yahoo but not Facebook. - Jacque
Would you have not spent all the time here (etc...) if you were told that this is a start-up business and could get acquired at any time? Or could run out of money and shut down at any time? At least you had a chance to make the connections and share/consume that content...for free. Looks like you're better off than you were before you joined, no? - mj
Rick: +1 - imabonehead
I am agree :( - Janice
To Alex Schleber: if you build it, we will come. Seriously, what Rick Cogley said too - I love that I can interact with almost anyone, not just people I'd interact with anyway and, in my case, have known forever. I love that it's like a small, really fun cocktail party with your friends, some of their friends, and a few strangers - as opposed to a convention (or, for me, a high school reunion!). Sad. - Amy℠
It's not wrong to feel betrayed, but everyone has their price - sadly. - David Jagger
I've examined the emotional reaction of Alex (and others) to the announcement http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009... - John E. Bredehoft
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If I don't want people to read something, I blog it. If I don't want them to respond, I Twitter it. Otherwise I use FriendFeed.
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Robert Scoble
Does anyone care about the new Yahoo homepage changes coming tomorrow? Twitter and Facebook have incompetent competition. Sigh. Bing indeed!
I do, it is like yahoo is my first love =] - Özgür D. Cyric
Google should worry more about Bing. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
who cares? - Madhav Tripathi
What's this Yahoo you talk about? - Chris Mayer
Yahoo still has a homepage? - James Watters
Chris the news is all over Techmeme. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
ahh c'mooon these are low blows, tho funny =] - Özgür D. Cyric
yahoo is late. - Rachael Depp
I don't use Yahoo, only goolge - Mostafa Lameei
Robert, just kidding! That's how much I use Yahoo - Chris Mayer
yeah i love google :) - Rachael Depp
Ozgur: someone cares. Yahoo still gets 300 million visits a month. But not me. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Compuserve has a new homepage too. It says "Out of Business" - Yahoo probably has that one in QA. - drew olanoff
Yeah I was wondering , yahoo still has a page? (kidding) nice one @james. - Omar
What's Yahoo? Oh! Isn't that that chocolate drink? Tasty stuff.... - Rahsheen
My home page is Seesmic Twitter Ap, and Google reader. - James Watters
I use Yahoo Finance but thats about it - Kiran Patchigolla
"When competitors fight,customers win" http://blogs.zoho.com/general... Go Figure! - Ajay Nair
Robert, what's your iPhone ff app of choice? I've been using motherfeed. it's workable - Omar
There is an iphone app for FF?! - Rachael Depp
Omar: Safari - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Same pig, new lipstick. I have no loyalty - even tho I have 10 yrs worth of pre-gmail email saved there. - Penelope Mudd
there are so many wildly smart people there. hope they are able to focus. - michael sean wright
The soviet union had wildly smart people as well, but the wrong framework... - James Watters
ahhh. thanks Robert. Hadn't actually tried it from there. shows you how much I come around. making an effort, I do enjoy the concept here - almost like a collaborative IRC on steroids. @Robert - Omar
nicefishfilms: it took Microsoft six years to get Bing. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Yahoo doesn't have that long. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Don't care. I use My Yahoo! and Yahoo! Sports sometimes, but never the home page. But my wife may notice. - Louis Gray
I agree Robert. I think Yahoo's final days are ahead. - Omar
Unless they innovate quite out of the box. - Omar
My mom uses Yahoo, so there. Actually, I use Yahoo movies and Flickr. Don't count Yahoo out. - Gus
Yahoo's charter was simple, to show you all of the web's best content; life has changed, thats now our friends job. - James Watters
I miss live.yahoo.com. - monkeystick
Yahoo is irrelevant to me. It gives me nothing I can't get elsewhere. - Jim Connolly
Compuserve has new page.. yay.Wait looks like AltaVista changed something too. in other words- meh! But that is from a techie- general public still uses it and AT&T DSL subscribers use it. - Alyx
They're still a traffic juggernaut thanks to the SBC|DSL deal. Millions and millions of SBC (Now AT&T) home DSL users have Yahoo set as their homepage and have no idea how to switch it and in most cases don't want to because their e-mail is run through there too. - Adam Turetzky
I don't even use the yahoo weather feed on my iPhone. The hack putting the temp next to the battery is lovely though. @ Jim !! That's exactly the crux... imho - Omar
RS: but I said I care =] i mean i am one of those 300 million i mean several of them =] - Özgür D. Cyric
I stopped using Yahoo because the home page had too much crap on it. Google kept theirs simple. - Chris Mayer
Yahoo messenger is still popular. - Gus
Flickr became irrelevant once I started using webspace more. Am an oldschool member though. - Omar
There is an important strategic difference between no longer growing and dead. Yahoo is no longer growing; they own the wrong market segments. - James Watters
And I don't know why people would knock them. Yahoo!'s homepage and the my.yahoo.com page have so much more to offer than what Google gives you. The search results are only mildly different, at least in my limited testing. - Adam Turetzky
I never said Yahoo is dead. I said I don't care. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Scoble: Why do you "not" care? - Hoop
@Robert; yeah, just reacting to a few, they are toast comments and people talking about a few apps they still have left as if that matters. - James Watters
I think there are still many who care abour Yahoo, as Robert said over 300 million page visits a month. I just think there is room for improvement. - wiredgnome from iPod
Hoop: nothing is there that makes me care. My friends and news are elsewhere. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Hoop: why should I care? - Robert Scoble from iPhone
@jamesurquhart had an interesting twitter discussion today asking how many comcast people use their provider as their homepage; Apparently comcast has stats saying many many do. I think I'm very out of touch with the average internet user, as are most of my friends out here. - James Watters
Scoble: You probably shouldn't. For some reason when I read you saying you don't care I infer it as an implication that you don't think other people should. Truth be told I'm not sure how much time I'll spend there but if Yahoo's homepage turns out to be a better FriendFeed, I'd give it a week try-out - Hoop
I guess one or two of us here will peek at Yahoo tomorrow to see what they're up to.... - Gus
@Hoop, their new homepage will emulate FF? - James Watters
Not really. I stopped using Yahoo! in 2001. - Chantal
I just looked at their home page for the first time in years...ick! - James Watters
@James, only in the sense that it seems to let me pull content from lots of other sites togeter. That's the main value I get from FriendFeed, pulling together multiple social networks including my friend lists. FriendFeed is fantastic but far from the ultimate experience - Hoop
@Rutger - just from my perspective, and most people who have been online for a good period. It's still a solid offering, just not as innovative as it was in the early days vs comparative products. It stood on its own then... - Omar
@Hoop, if they made it primarily about social feeds that would def be big news, esp in an innovative way. But I doubt they will go that far, their existing users would bark. - James Watters
@Hoop - I still want to find a team to build c0nnected.net into an intelligent intake mechanism - what I'm calling the neural extentive internet, in my head.. I do not code however. wrote a short abstract on it, would be happy to email the concept if requested. Intelligent metrics, full customization, etc. . . - Omar
@hoop - Abstract topic - Topic: true data singularity or the neural extentive humanistic content management system, [considerations leading eventually to "the neural extensis," a proposed eventual website.] - Omar
Omar: please explain data singularity? - James Watters
@James, agreed but if they found a way to bridge that it woudl be huge news. The FriendFeed experience with really simple UX and heavier weight on Yahoo's own content feeds woudl be huge. Alas that's not what I'm seeing on the new homepage and like Scoble, I don't care about anything I see so far. - Hoop
I am another of those that hasn't looked at Yahoo's home page in years so I couldn't care less about there homepage changes. - russellcoleman
@James - well I'm not a CS head, so the terminology isn't a declarative absolutism, just what I decided to call it.. this is an abstract developed in a vacuum, thus far. All your data, encapsulated and delivered to a single point. Much like we do google reader for RSS (those that do), however every source in your social media net and ALL your other browser based http traffic can be drawn in. . . - Omar
YHOO and AAPL both issue earnings Tuesday .... any guesses ??? - Charlie Anzman
Just posted the neural extensis concept (what I've typed formally thus far) as a blog entry::: - Omar
oops, shit. forgot return maps to submit here! my bad:: http://omfglol.org/archive... - Neural Extensis. - Omar
Omar: slightly OT but my dream site has a little of "my" data and a lot of data for other sources. I'm not as fascinated by the site as I am about the liberation of my data, what Doug Purdy calls the infobus. maybe it starts with a more federated/open FriendFeed. But eventually I do want an app to show me all the data in one place and organized and it will come down to the App with the best experience. Owning my data shouldn't be an advantage. If Yahoo gave me that, I'd care. - Hoop
@Hoop - You've given me some interesting things to think about. The beauty of the idea I am proposing is you can pull other data you'd read regularly,, or for a short time into the offering. Completely customizable. Think of it as a fully customized scraper of sorts, for things that don't already have a feed, or an API, that you're interested in reading and or keeping track of. And yes, it'd be pulling in things like google calendar, etc of course! Please elabourate a bit on "owning data," ? - Omar
I cant tell the difference to be honest. Is it really different or am I being punked? - Ron George
Omar: I dont' want to monopolize the thread, here are some links from Dave Winer, Doug Purdy and others: DM me if you want to discuss further or we could create a public group to discuss: http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2009..., http://www.douglaspurdy.com/2009..., http://www.scripting.com/stories..., http://blog.jonudell.net/2007..., - Hoop
Ron: I thought the changes are coming later today. http://www.techmeme.com has the news. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I had a different site a second ago now it's back to the old thing :-( - Hoop
Scoble: go to http://www.yahoo.com/trynew (via Bubba Muraka) - Hoop
Ya-who? - mrbrown
Yahoo's web presence is done IMHO. The only people that care are your grandma who hasn't changed her default home page that Dell specified. - Alex Knight
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I still like (and use) my MyYahoo page. Granted I spend more time in Google Reader than probably anywhere else, but I still use MyYahoo (and I'm not even a grandma or grandpa ;p ) - Michael Pardee from iPhone
Is Yahoo still around? I thought they were bought by Mattel. - Ernie Oporto from iPhone
I stopped using Yahoo years ago. Yahoomail has a pretty incompetent spam blocker. The Yahoo page is much too busy. I went All Gmail/Google but of late, Gmail's been pretty flaky. Yahoo search is probably pretty good, but we're past the Good Enough stage, now. For something new to elbow in, it's got to be very significantly better or different (and engaging). - Murli Nagasundaram
You just compared a content portal refresh to two social networks and a search—nay: decision—engine. Pretty sure you're way off base Robert. - David Chartier
Also, I'm no fan of it myself, but according to the last stats I heard a couple months ago, Yahoo's home/start page had about 250 million monthly uniques. Pretty sure that's still slaughtering the competition. - David Chartier
If Yahoo is failing, I'd like to fail too. http://www.nytimes.com/externa... - Bwana ☠
I never use Yahoo - Randy Allen Bishop
Robert - its 2009, are hompy's still important ?? Think of it !! - Peter Dawson
Does Yahoo have a page. They have more traffic than any site in the world. - Stephen Pickering
I don't use Yahoo that much anymore but to they will not become irrelevant until someone else provides the same services they do. Anyone who thinks FriendFeed and twitter do that for people like my mom and my grandma doesn't get it. - Hoop
It does not matter to me at all. - Ashish
I don't see Bing or Yahoo as a threat to Google. Bing is a great product but it doesn't seem like anything that Google couldn't create with less effort. - Hugh Isaacs II
Hoop: Thanks for the link! Tried to see new homepage earlier and wasn't prompted by Yahoo, as I expected. My first take is that the redesign is cleaner and more flexible. The bad thing -- and I mean *really* bad -- is that they have now dedicated even more room to display advertisements. That's a deal breaker for me; no way would I use the redesign. But I'll still hit My Yahoo daily. - Larry Hawes
I stopped using Yahoo for my home page a long time ago. Rarely use it these days, so no I don't care. - Kirk Bryan
yahoo! is still around? Oh yea, they own Flickr. :) - Kreg Steppe
Yes cuz I have to use them everyday and my service provider partners w/em! - polou/indigo_bow
Except for Delicious, MyBlogLog, Yahoo Pipes, and occasionally Flickr, I don't have much of a use for anything else that is Yahoo. - April Russo
I'm more interested in Gmail's new changes. - wiredgnome
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Hrm. Not enough pictures in my friendfeed. Here we go. Hah.
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One more thing: All of our iframe embeds (including search) support a css=URL parameter to enable custom style. We haven't documented it yet, but see http://friendfeed.com/buildin... for an example and howto, and http://www.building43.com/ to see it live.
Amazing - zsafwan 
I was wondering how they did that! Thanks - Frankie Warren
But how do I customize the title so it's not the long search string? - Jesse Stay
We're going to fix that very soon Jesse. - Paul Buchheit
Could that (improper instancing of by louisgray.com) be the cause of http://ff.im/4J6lp ? - ianf ⌘
Thanks Paul - that will make me feel much better about keeping it there. :-) I've got some huge community improvements coming soon that I'm hoping to integrate FriendFeed with. - Jesse Stay
I may be missing the howto, but developed my own way awhile back using object tag, and placed in a drupal block. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed
Paul, first tried to embed in the post, but did not work out. Then I embedded the search in a sidebar widget, that worked: http://www.amsterdam20.nl - any tips how to make the embedding working in a regular WP 2.8 post? Or is this not possible b/c it is an iframe? TIA! - Jeroen De Miranda
Ah this was what i was looking for. - Burcu Dogan
Nice - very cool. - Cliff Gerrish
Is there any chance of losing the scroll bar? I know you can manually increase the height but would really like this frame to automatically grow on my site. Or is this technically impossible atm? Either way, a very cool feature. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Paul.. thanks for the "undocumented update".. it's nice to have such open access to what's happening at FriendFeed. I'm used to the "Wall of Silence" from Google and THAT gets old and extremely frustrating fast. - Chris Myles
Kol, I think you are a little out of luck.. since an Iframe is just a "window" to another URL, the main page needs to define the size. Without it the browser would need to load every iframe page just to determine how to render the main one. However It would be nice to have an embedded option that allows the "N more comments" concept (more details here http://ff.im/4fGzH), it takes up... more... - Chris Myles
Chris, so the iframe is not the way forward? What alternatives could achieve this? I don't mind putting in some code to embed my FF posts properly (with a frame). - Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I'm not sure where you got the impression I don't think Iframes are the way forward, I was addressing your issue of "losing the scrollbar". An Iframe is the only way to get "real time" updates.. you could always roll your own javascript, ff API , DOM based utility but it would only get you the content at the time of the API call. If the FF team thought http://ff.im/4fGzH was a good... more... - Chris Myles
So there is no other way to get real-time updates without an iframe? Once we can get rid of the scrollbar then I can use it on my site. - Kol Tregaskes
FF can only update pages they own! BTW in its current form I think the benefits of an embedded FF post (or group etc) far outweigh any minor side effects of a scrollbar. I'd love to use friendfeed as my entire blog commenting system, I'm just waiting for a couple of things (http://ff.im/3TfED) to automate the process. - Chris Myles
We would love to embed a private room on internal Deki Wiki. The last time I tried it still had the sidebar. I will try again to see if you have made it possible to do this. - Christian Burns from iPhone
The minute I decided to embed FF into my blog! - Burcu Dogan
Does this also include individual post embeds (via share)?.. I can't seem to get those to work! - Chris Myles
the building43 stuff is great. they did a good job explaining and such. used it for my lifestream on my blog. - (jeff)isageek
Paul baucheit and the rest of the friendfeed team. You are implementing a lot of cool features lately. - alfred westerveld
Wade, use the num= parameter to control the number of entries (e.g. http://friendfeed.com/paul...) - Paul Buchheit
Myrna
nm nom nom, :0 - chaz2b
Anyone for chocolate? Igor, more? - Myrna
please? - chaz2b
which one? - Myrna
Cacao has been cultivated for at least three millennia in Mexico, Central and South America, with its earliest documented use around 1100 BC. The majority of the Mesoamerican peoples made chocolate beverages, including the Aztecs and the Maya, who made it into a beverage. But I like it, any way you slice it! - Charlie Barone
charlie, I read that Cacoa beans don't really promote health, quite the opposite. Have you heard this? - Myrna
i've read a great variety of info about cocoa beans, being a sufferer o' migraines, and now they say it causes and cures migraines, so, i'd be intrested to reading if you have a link to share, ;) - chaz2b
ok, gonna find it. Just tweeted Dr Mercola and asked about cacao beans? - Myrna
I'm quite a health nut myself, but mental health is important, too, and eating chocolate just does it for me. Didn't help that old Aztec Moctezuma, though, did it! - Charlie Barone
chaz and charlie, here's one view. Still looking for another. http://www.fromsadtoraw.com/Misc... He's moderately against cacao but the one I read said its poison. - Myrna
ty - chaz2b
Read that article, and it made some sense. But like everything else, there's use and then there's abuse. I'm not going to be the one to refuse a piece of chocolate cake at my grandson's birthday party. Or maybe I would if the darn thing didn't just taste so good! - Charlie Barone
Charlie, not sure that chocolate cake would have the same effect as eating cacao beans(sold in health food stores). The beans are much stronger. - Myrna
But, both raise your adrenalin/cortisol which in itself is not a positive effect. Moderation! - Myrna
Now I want gooey chocolate cake. :-( - John (bird whisperer)
YUM!!! - Bee
Food, Food! Feed Me! LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
psst (its a chemical reaction with the lady hormones that lets femmes get more out of chocolate, but u didnt read it from me, ;) - chaz2b
may i please have another slice of cake, ms myrna? - chaz2b
Myma please feed the Trolls LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
:o, i'm a hybrid piranha-shark, ty, :( - chaz2b
i want them alllllllllllllllllll - Demetrios the Traveller
Did someone call me? - Myrna
for cake, please - chaz2b
chaz, want me to find some more treats? Ice cream maybe? Just tell me your request. - Myrna
OMG, open request? CHEESECAKE, lol (please, ;) - chaz2b
plain or with fruit, chocolate? - Myrna
Oh No! Food Pr0n strikes again - Ian May
i love all cheesecake, thats why i exercise so hard, so it (hopefully) never catches up, lol. Your the chef, your call, i love suprises, ;) - chaz2b
Patience, a few detours on the way! Yunkwan, how'd you guess.. - Myrna
Done! chaz http://ff.im/5knQz Cheesecake feast! - Myrna
Slippy, all this from a piece of chocolate delight!!! You really must have a good connection. - Myrna
Here's these pictures again... *hide* - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Drool! - The Catz Meow
o'man, who ran this through again, now i'm gonna need another piece o' cake :( (please?) ;) - chaz2b
Oh nom.... - FFing Enigma
LOOL chaz! Hey, you forgot so quickly about the cheesecake? Here in case you want a larger selection- http://ff.im/5knQz - Myrna
o'gawd i'm gonna be sooooo big, :( I didnt forget about the cheescake(s), just theres still cake left, and i always finnish one dessert before another is begun, :o - chaz2b
Where is the recipe, I can't find it? - Charlie Barone
charlie, recipe or recipes? Are you going to bake today? :) - Myrna
これはいらんわ・・・わかってないわマジで - Akira Miyamoto
Sally, too much caffeine(in choc) is not great for anyone but in moderation, dark chocolate hits the spot..sometimes? And for migraine sufferers..NO, PERIOD!! - Myrna
Kevin J Hatton
Are female Geeks sexy?
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Hell yeah they are! - The Catz Meow
Why, yes...they are... - JA Castillo
yes we are - anna sauce
Females? I don't know, but I'm a stone cold fox. - Ted Roden
more than anyone else! :) - directeur
are they? YES! - Big Joe Silence
♥ this picture! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
yes in general yes. - Dan owns Comicsforge.com
this model is kinda rocking the annie hall look - anna sauce
Yes. Yes they are. - Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
Not with bug-eyed glasses like that, they're not. - Akiva
geeks are, posers aren't - RAPatton
is a poser -----> - The Catz Meow
yes! - (jeff)isageek
As opposed to what? I don't really understand the question. (Not kidding.) - Ayşe E.
Geek girls are what makes being a geek guy worthwhile. - Chris Charabaruk
Yes. - David Cook
Are you Kidding?? - Kreg Steppe
absolutely . . - pcdave79 from twhirl
indeed - chrisofspades
Yes!<3 - Neya from fftogo
in my world, how can you be sexy without the knowledge of a geek? - chaz2b
100% - Joe Dawson
Really sexy! - Anıl
they really are! - Marco <radel>
Girls in glasses are very sexy - Toby Graham
Females are sexy. - Michael W. May
Of course Jess would like this. Geekiest female I know. 8^D - Chieze Okoye
yes!.. oh yes!! - Cesar Sanchez
a yay on this one ;) - Snehal Shinde
I would agree an this one! - Brian
definately!! - Karola Riegler
mashable
Mozilla Patches Nasty Firefox Security Hole - http://mashable.com/2009...
Louis Gray
My Duck Hunting Skills Must Be Poor. I Keep Leaving the Feet Behind.
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That's what happens if I scroll down as the duck is falling to its imminent demise. - Louis Gray
Didn't happen to me. - Matt Ruiz
They make a good soup. - Josh Haley
Bret Taylor
By popular demand, we bring you the Duck Hunt theme, in which you shoot cartoon ducks while you peruse FriendFeed. - http://friendfeed.com/setting... - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
FriendFeed is not responsible for lost productivity, irritated co-workers or hunting companions "accidentally" shot in the face. - Ana
nice! think I'll stick with Helvetica though :) - Mike Bracco
ROFL!!!! Awesome! - Jesse Stay
This is totally my new theme. - Jesse Stay
Insert Dick Cheney joke here. - John Craft
Can you make it keep score though? I want to see my score on my profile. - Jesse Stay
I want a mortal combat theme..haha - Mike Bracco
Haha, cool. Thanks, Bret! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Bret, don't forget to use your new official theme group: http://friendfeed.com/friendf.... ;-) I've posted it here: http://ff.im/5dH9w :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Oh God, this is awesome. - Mark Trapp
It needs the "duck got away" sound :p - Robert DeBord
Yeah, and a smug dog that laughs at you. - Mark Trapp
You could shoot the smug dog in the arcade version, couldn't you? - Robert DeBord
Ok really cool, but to get anything done I went back to bamboo - Kim Landwehr
no way to get my score ? ;-) - stanjourdan
I wish duck could laugh if I miss it. - Ashish
*BANG* - Meryn Stol
lol that's awesome! - xero
ashish, how can you miss? It's like shooting fish in a barrel. :) - Joe Bonner
Joe, If I am very involved in reading or commenting, I may miss shooting it. :) - Ashish
That's why I reverted to Helvetica, I let the ducks take over :) - Joe Bonner
Are the shotgun blasts a beta test for a new "dislike" function? - DGentry
cute! :) - Susan Beebe
lol very funny. can we have a "mob" theme in which posts that have comments disabled go float by, and you can re-enable comments by throwing a pitchfork? :-D - Karim
oh wow...this totally made my day - Tamara
OMG, this is awesome. I'm easily amused. :) I agree though, needs the annoying dog. - Jandy
Not sure I expected to see the duck hovering by on the bookmarklet, but I'm OK with it. :D - Mitch
What a great idea! - ChaCha Fance
Quality I love it - Joe Dawson
love it :) - Krishnamoorthy
Would you consider something with the HomestarRunner crew? That'd rock! - Courtney Engle
I want the duck with Helvetica. - Burcu Dogan
where does the player's score appear?? - Mike Chelen
Mark Krynsky
Quick Poll: Do you normally use FriendFeed in Real-time or Paused mode?
Real-Time. I like it most of the time, but from time to time something I'm reading will suddenly disappear. - John (bird whisperer)
Paused. - John E. Bredehoft
Paused for me. I usually only go to real-time if I don't want to interact. Like watching the stream when I'm eating lunch. - Mark Krynsky
Only paused. I can't handle real time. - Rochelle
Real-time always. - Louis Gray
Real-time, never paused. - Burcu Dogan
So far Paused is winning 5-3. - Mark Krynsky
mostly paused... it's hard to injest comments at the rate things move - Sean Reiser
Real-time. I rarely pause it manually. - Jandy
Real-time on the computer, iPhone interface on the iPhone (no real-time). - Beau Liening
Always Real-time. - Bonnie Foster
OMG... I didn't even realise you could pause it. I so need to do that... - Melly
Quick, someone tell me how to pause this thing?! - Melly
real time - I don't follow enough people to make it crazy - BEX
The real-timers are coming on strong. Now 7-5 +1 who doesn't know how to pause. Melissa, there's a pause button at the top of the bar just to the left of you're profile picture. - Mark Krynsky
Paused. - Victor Ganata
RT. Everything else is way too slow. - Anika
Paused. - Derrick
Real-time always. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Realtime - Glenn Slaven
real time - Big Joe Silence
Paused. I have too many subscriptions to stomach real-time. - James Rishabh Mishra
Real time - Mitch
real-time definitely - Matt Hooper
Real time. - Adrian
Pause? What pause? I'm looking for the GO button. - Rahsheen
real time - Aldiantoro Nugroho
Thanks Mark! I feel stoopid. - Melly
Real-time. - Tristan Seligmann
Paused - Dan Dashnaw
Real - sofarsoShawn
Current count Realtime 20 vs. Paused 11. Interesting results, although Paused is the minority so far it's still a pretty significant number of people. - Mark Krynsky
Real-time 98% (2% paused, usually b/c on the iphone) - Micah
Real Time! - TheHenry
Realtime, very rarely pause - Alistair (alpinefolk)
real time; there's a pause button? - chaz2b
Semi-real-time. (AKA paused most of the time, but I see that parts of it are still dynamic, although I still refresh the page regularly) - Tyson Key
realtime - mike fabio
Real time with a tab open for favorites and "my discussions" - Ben Hanten
mixed... realtime with manual pauses 'q-key' - mikepk
I prefer real-time, though I sometimes forget to pause when I'm reading a long thread, then it disappears and I have to shuffling around to find it. ><; - Arlan K.
Mostly paused, but once in a while I really like watching real time. - Robert Scoble
Only Real Time. - iTad
Wha? Who is this guy claiming to be Scoble saying he likes paused? Better check to make sure FF didn't get pwned like Twitter tonight. - Mark Krynsky
I like you're tip Jason but for me it'll probably be like trying to swim up Niagara Falls. - Mark Krynsky
Wait, Scoble said paused? DOES NOT COMPUTE. - Jandy
Mostly realtime. - Anne Bouey
Realtime only, as I keep friends in many different lists. - Gaspar Torriero
Never paused. - Tinfoil 2.0
Real time - Brome
I forgot you could pause, LOL. - Tanath
Pause. work. Start Reading+Realtime.....till next pause. Repeat :) - Ashish Tiwari
Realtime - I always get annoyed when I accidentally pause. - Rich from iPod
Real Time - Bring it on. - Brent - Yes I am
Real Time - never paused. Yeahhh Hurt Me Plenty! - DAL
Real Time - Hardcore - bora "head" basman
Real time - Charlie Anzman
Real time - M F
There's a pause mode? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
mostly real-time; if I there are a bunch of comments I need to read through, I either hit pause or open the conversation in a separate tab - Andrew Terry
paused. Usually reading on a display with less than 800 pixels vertical, so less wiggle room before an item scrolls offscreen while reading. Have enjoyed realtime mode when using a larger monitor, but generally prefer to scroll at my own pace ... - Dan Freeman
Real-time. I'm a list ninja. Oops, did i just say Ninja? - Tibor Holoda
Real time - Joe Dawson
Always real time - via IM, FF Notifier, gmail and the web GUI. Depending what I'm tracking via groups or lists, I use different msg routing. - zeroinfluencer
Always paused. Don't like it when what I'm trying to read is trying to move at its pace instead of mine. - David Gaw
Real Time. - Joel Robert Perez
Real-time - Jacque
Paused mode..in real time it is so fast I cannot even read updates.I prefer sitting and reading an interesting post very carefully ..i usually prefer friendfeed search because it helps me narrow down to what i would like to discuss! - Samuel Ochanji
Real Time - Shevonne
Real Time. - CarolAnnB
Real time. - Mark H
real time baby! - Braden Douglass
Always Real time - Peter
Paused. Real-time makes my browser hog too much CPU and increases my MB's fan speed. - Siddharth Deb
Real - Live4Emma (L4S) from iPhone
Real time sidebar most of the time. - David Cook
Paused. - Yolanda
Real-time, with several groups and saved searches. - Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
Paused. Real-time is too jumpy. - April Russo
paused on iPhone, real time on Desktop Chrome - RAPatton
Real time - FFing Enigma
didnt know there was a paused mode.. - David Gross
Real time. - ronin
Real time - timepilot from iPhone
real time - Josh Haley
Use friendfeed? No. It just passes information other places, right? - Phillip J. Zannini
real time - Chris Heath
Always real-time :) - Svartling
Using realtime since last december!! :D --->- http://dffrnt.com/ffmulti... hehe! - vijay
Real - Neya from fftogo
depends on traffic speed, spend more time in BOD though - Yant
paused - Murat ÖZORAL
Real time… if your cursor is over the feed it’s pauses anyway. I never touch the pause button. - Remo
Real time. Now if my feed was as fast as scoble's, than I would have it paused. - Joshua
Real time - Not Me
real time - Trish Haley
Realtime/igoogle widget/best of day, click on things that grab my attention. Then read the items I clicked on. - Grant Bierman
bah, I was just reading something when this thread popped up for the second time today. There's your answer. - motownmutt
Real time, but with lists. - Steven Perez
How can you use a 'normal friendfeed without the Real Time?" - I use RT - Matt Ruiz
real time of course ... :) - alexxandra
Realtime - ride the wave! - Martin Bryant from iPhone
gotta go real time baby! - (jeff)isageek
Ok, I'm too lazy to count but Realtime won by a landslide. In other news I'm wondering if I've been banned by ffholic. This post has not appeared at all yesterday or today. Not that I care much, I just find it strange. - Mark Krynsky
goooo realtime! - chaz2b
Per a script: >>>> (Of 123): Paused:15 | Realtime:72 | (Ambiguous):36 <<<< ..... (?): Paused. Real Time gives me a headache. - Helen Sventitsky (?): Paused for me. I usually only go to real-time if I don't want to interact. Like watching the stream when I'm eating lunch. - Mark Krynsky (?): Only paused. I can't handle real time. - Rochelle (?): Real-time, never paused. - Burcu Dogan... more... - Micah
Micah is awesome...that is all. - Mark Krynsky
Nice Micah - Mitch
I use FriendFeed in Real-time mode, as my lists, saved searchs and groups are better organized now ;-) - Thierry R. Andriamirado
A formalized script to report on survey threads now - friendfeedPoll http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Micah
Realtime, though sometimes I leave when things get out of hand, should learn to pause. - Ted Roden
I let my grandma play with my stream once in a while otherwise it's full speed I mean realtime - Dobromir Hadzhiev
i alternate pretty often - Jack Lhasa
Louis Gray
BOOM. @googlereader has propagated user names to link blogs. For example: http://www.google.com/reader...
Boom! - Jesse Stay from iPhone
i get a permission denied...how do you mean? - Zee.
Oh boo. Let me check. - Louis Gray
...and then some. ;) - EricaJoy
There is a 'Like' button in my Google Reader now. Just like Friendfeed's. - Marcos
/me points to Marcos...by jove, he's on to something. - EricaJoy
That one works for me, Louis. =) - Beau Liening
Thanks for letting us know Louis! - Daynah
If you get the permission denied prompt, it's because we aren't full at 100%. Once that happens, it will load. - Jenna Bilotta
yep, it takes a bit to fully roll out. - Jenna Bilotta
This is seriously going to impact my Friendfeed time, which is already insufficient. - Chris Rogers
@chris you are just going to have to sleep less so you can give both services adequate time! that's what *I* do, anyhow. :) - Jenna Bilotta
Finally! Color me happeh - Bwana ☠
Jenna: lol - what's sleep anyway? - Chris Rogers
Somebody tell Jenna I want to import a VCF file and find all the people on that contact list with shared link blogs. - Louis Gray
One thing I'm noticing is that if I like or read the same post in different folders, my 'like' doesn't show up for me when i open the post in another folder. The post also seems to remain unread in other folders even if I've marked it as read elsewhere. Am I doing something wrong? - Matt Hooper
@Louis tell her yerself! ;) - Jenna Bilotta
Oh... and would somebody else tell Jenna that having the Like in my Share space throws me off? I had a system! Now I have to move my mouse a centimeter to the right! (After almost 9,000 shares, it was automatic) - Louis Gray
Love it - Tyler (Chacha)
Louis, I would have thought you would use Keyboard Shortcuts for that. Shift S! - Tyler (Chacha)
Shift S --- that's two keys. I only use J K and L - Louis Gray
What does L do? - Tyler (Chacha)
J = Jump ahead. K = go bacK. L = Like. - Louis Gray
http://www.google.com/reader... (but Friendfeed doesn't recognize this new address yet, although the link works for me) - Stuart Miniman
Cool: http://www.google.com/reader.... Thanks for pointing that out, Louis. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
They propagated much more: http://ff.im/5i3G9 - Panayotis Vryonis
It's not automatic: "Since you have already customized your URL for your Google profile, you can choose to use a similar URL for your Reader shared items." It only applies if you created a vanity link for your Google profile - Bwana ☠
If I were you, I'd make my shared items protected - Bwana ☠
The last time I shared with GR was March 30 2009. - Russellreno
Thomas Hawk
Softest One of All, Plate 2 - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Really nice picture. I like her expression... - Francois Meehan
Awesome! - Ruchit Garg
Louis Gray
Side note: I have opted to not share any of the stories that result from the confidential items from Twitter that are being released one by one. That they leaked was newsworthy, yes, but if you want that news, you can get it many other places.
That's because you are a classy person, Louis. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Louis: did you get the leaked info? I didn't. Makes that decision easy! :-) - Robert Scoble
louis gray, too nice to be a cut throat publisher but still a really great guy :) - sean percival
I did not get the leaked info. But those that did are now publishing some of the details, and to share them on Google Reader seems like the wrong thing to do. I may share ValleyWag every once in a while, but I'll skip these. - Louis Gray
1UP LG. - Derrick
Sean, you don't have to be cut throat to do a good job. I say stand for something. - Louis Gray
Good for you. - Jenna Bilotta
Whoever has that stuff should drop it quickly like a red-hot potato, for what it's worth. But I don't see that happening any time soon, sadly. - Tyson Key
I admire your work ethics and probably would have done the same, myself. Still, after watching some of the leaked docs, TV show - was already known, future merchandise store - big deal lots of 3rd party companies already sell Twitter stuff, Premium accounts - not a secret we have SUL, GMAIL/GoDaddy accounts - haven't seen something unusual etc. Bottom line, I wouldn't publish a thing... more... - Nir Ben Yona
I had been wondering what your thoughts were. - Anne Bouey
Much respect. - Colby
It is fun though to watch the ethical debate in TC's comments: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Colby
Colby, if you read the comments, and just do a search for "@arrington" to find Mike's comments, he is very level-headed about the situation and makes sense. I understand what he is doing, but am opting out of spreading the results. I was at a dinner with Mike on Monday and enjoyed the CrunchUp Friday, so this is not a personal issue in any way. I hope he makes smart decisions. - Louis Gray
Yes but he could end up in jail for this and that's not being level headed. - Thomas Power
Thomas, I am not a legal expert in this case, and think that there are some who are advising him, as well as his own background, so I would guess that is unlikely. - Louis Gray
bum - sofarsoShawn
Yeah I read Arrington's posts and can see his perspective but it seems like he is alienating his readerbase. I suppose that is only a small fraction of the readers though. It will be interesting to see how much they reveal, and if twitter pursues litigation (I assume they have the right...?) - Colby
Same here. I don't want to spread that nonsense. - Bwana ☠
Louis - this is why I read all your stuff and none of Arrington's - andy brudtkuhl
Nathan Chase
So now that Google Reader, Facebook, and FriendFeed all have "Likes" - who will be the first to create some way to sync your "Likes" across all three services?
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I like that - Rohit
"LikeSync" has a nice ring to it. :) - Nathan Chase
Ping.fm and competing services seem most likely to implement it, wouldn't you think? - Nathan Chase
Is there any way to see yours or someone else's Facebook or Google Reader likes? - Glenn Slaven
Glenn, no i don't think there's any way to see ONLY a user's likes on GReader or Facebook - yet. - Nathan Chase
Yes now that's a good idea - Thomas Power
What about Liking blog posts within Blogger and Wordpress but showing your name? I suggest Likes will get further expanded! - Louis Gray
Could also be synced with Twitter Favorites. Basically the same, right? - Oliver Kohl
It's a long road to syncronize.. last problem are likes.. - CantorJF
Google Reader "Likes" makes no sense to me - "Share With Note" is my "like" and also allows me to leave a comment. I'm not sure if I get the point. - Vince DeGeorge
Syncing likes would be cool! - Kol Tregaskes
I'm with you Vince. If I'm 'like'ing something, then I'm sharing it. I think this causes more confusion. I don't see why instead of putting in 3 people liked this, they couldn't have gone 3 people shared this. Just from a psychological perspective, the sharing fits much better. - Phil Ashman
So do I like & share something now? - Phil Ashman
like and share had to be different .. but then what is "star"? - CantorJF
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Robert Scoble
Google Reader's new features are mighty fine, but, damn, is it slow compared to FriendFeed. And people wonder why I praise FriendFeed so often...
Google Reader's new features are too confusing for me. - Jesse Stay
I think it's a case of different tools for different purpose. Some people.. let say such as you, sit on the news watching it break. Other people such as myself have to disconnect throughout the day and need to catch up next time I get a chance. Google Reader (or more accurately Feedly thanks to a suggestion of yours) is a great way for me to catch up in an orderly manner. FriendFeed on the other hand is great for watching it all unfold - Rhys Amos from iPod
Robert, doesn't 25,283 subscription updates on your home feed get nutty to look at? - Alex Knight
25K and you don't sub to me, this broke my heart =p - Özgür D. Cyric
Alex: yeah, but I guess I gotta do a video explaining how I use it now. - Robert Scoble
I don't get what the real huge difference between liking and sharing. - Justin Yost
Ahsan: no, it's mostly slow when I'm navigating user lists. Nothing to do with RSS. - Robert Scoble
That and the vast majority of people aren't spending their every minute of the work day with Google Reader open, Twitter and FriendFeed sure but Google Reader? I don't see real time being that large of an issue with a inherently slow system. - Justin Yost
@Robert, yes a video would be a great idea. Or just an article with some screenshots, whatever is easier for you. - Alex Knight
Robert, if Reader's UI feels slow to you please get in touch (mihai at persistent dot info), we take performance pretty seriously. - Mihai Parparita
@robert, this why Google have to make a bid on FF before the end of the year :) - abdellah
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