Ken Sheppardson

It wouldn't surprise me if it does, but if so it'd be nice to let people know that "Block" not only removes the person from your stream, but acts as a way to signal FF staff and regulate the community(/"mob") - Ken Sheppardson

@Ken: True, it would be good to communicate that so crowdblocking would become more commonplace. - AJ Kohn

Excellent idea - Ahsan Ali

So you reckon FF needs its own Online Behavior Tsar/ette to "review the situation(s)" and unlock/not unlock affected accounts? While those engaging in mob mentality go free? (or maybe I "misunderestimated" your suggestion). - ianf ⌘

No, I think the same people who review spam reports and decide whether or not to permanently lock out spammers could certainly handle it. - Ken Sheppardson

@Ian: It's really more about spam. If X number of people block a user in a defined period (e.g. - accelerated blocking of a user) then the account is put on hold. So, instead of a whole bunch of people submitting something to FF that says 'hey this guy is a spammer' the mechanism simply catches the user behavior and acts accordingly. - AJ Kohn

Seems like a pretty simple decision gate. Entertain me, NO BLOCK Bore Me BLOCK EOL - EARL (Born in the USA) via fftogo

I get it, but the algorithm to trigger this anti-spam action would have to be much more precise than "N people in any T moment." Because, if it is possible to Google-bomb a phrase, it'd be even easier to Unfriendfeed-gangbang an account. - ianf ⌘

They're showing little ground to stand on when it comes to Trademark. Especially when they're saying things like "the majority of our users access Twitter outside of Twitter.com" - that removes their right to say they have a trademarked look and feel as well. If Tweetdeck is serving more users under the name "Tweet" under Twitter's look and feel than Twitter is then I would venture to say that Tweetdeck would have more right to that Trademark claim. - Jesse Stay

also remember these search results only go back how far? a month? not even right? - Chris Heath

Ouch, lol. - Matt

Yeah, the fact that I'm using the "mobile" UI doesn't necessarily mean I'm on an iPhone. Likewise for Android. - Ken Sheppardson

Heh, I get "from iPhone" when posting from my S60 phone with Opera Mini sometimes, too... Sigh. - Tyson Key

iPhone or no phone! :p - Rodfather

An iPre? ;) - Tyson Key

Hey Ken, Do you know the Pre's user-agent? Could you navigate to: http://www.useragent.org/ on your Pre and let us know. Sorry, don't have a pre around here to test on. Thanks in advance for your help. We'll try to make the fix as soon as possible. - Ross Miller

"Mozilla/5.0 (webOS/1.0; U; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/1.0 Safari/525.27.1 Pre/1.0" Thanks, Ross! - Ken Sheppardson

Thanks Ken! - Ross Miller

I just stumbled across this site in the process, by the way... looks like a pretty neat resource http://user-agent-string.info It confirms the string above (http://user-agent-string.info/list-of...) - Ken Sheppardson

Versus FTW! Live coverage every morning baby! - AJ Kohn

I'm going to have to do a couple weeks worth via Versus+Slingbox ... should be interesting - Ken Sheppardson

I'm gonna go couch potato for three weeks. I just love the tour, been watching since I was itty bitty and it was Laurent Fignon and Greg Lemond battling it out. Last year I used the official site and danish TV2s websites to follow when I was at work. That's when I didn't sneak through the bar to sneak a peak at the screen there. - Rasmus Lauridsen

Seriously ? - Ahsan Ali

This is funny, because for me online services are the bests tools I've found to communicate with "everyone I care" who "exists in real life". I don't see why you should restrain yourself from using something. - Brome

I'm so offended - Jesse Stay

*puppy dog eyes* - Johnny Worthington

This is just the first step in overcoming my addiction to talking to people about stuff. One day at a time. - Ken Sheppardson

Talking to people about stuff isn't an addiction to overcome. It's the most basic human behaviour. - Louis Simoneau

I'm just the opposite - like to keep my peeps at cyber length. - BEX Happy Long Weekend

Seriously?? - Jannifer Stoddard

I have found a lot of my friends who I know and hang "in real life" now via twitter and the web. - (jeff)isageek

There is a WordPress plugin to support SUP, which would accomplish the "instant" part of your goal: http://wordpress.org/extend.... To get images you just need to support MediaRSS (I believe there is also a WordPress plugin for that). - Benjamin Golub

Cool, where do I sign...........? - Kevin Hatton

Nice idea! - Don Bonaddio

Nice. I will use this... Thank ;) - Semih Masat

Benjamin: I knew somebody'd mention SUP :-) I'd rather not add some intermediate service/protocol, I just want the ability push directly via a single plug-in, preferably with a UI component that gives you control over what image or images are added, select the excerpt, select what groups the post goes to, etc. - Ken Sheppardson

What I want is probably similar to what Ken you want - something to push the title & link& image as a post, and an excerpt as a comment to FriendFeed, which would then go to Twitter. The group selecter would be ultra cool on top of that - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Yeah, I'm using PUB-Sup, but what would be even more interesting is something that pushes, and tracks comments of the pushed post at the same time. I'd like to have real-time comments on each blog post. - Jesse Stay

You're too cool to just grab your own RSS feed? - Matthew DeVries

Matthew: Yes. - Ken Sheppardson

;) gotcha - Matthew DeVries

Ken: Have you seen this one: http://sudarmuthu.com/wordpre... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Just found it, looking into it now - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

WP-Sup (http://neothoughts.com/wp-sup/) + MediaRSS (http://wordpress.org/extend...) plugins will do the job - Bwana

Rob: Cool. Looks like Sudar's around http://friendfeed.com/sudar Maybe he'll drop by... - Ken Sheppardson

Just sent him a tweet. Hopefully he'l join us :) Looks to be in india - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

The SUP plugin doesn't add an intermediate protocol. It does exactly what FriendFeed wants from your site. It adds a line of code to your header and pings their API everytime you publish. Works perfectly to publish posts realtime to FriendFeed (and then on to Twitter, etc.) In fact, I've still not got used to publishing a post and seeing a notification on my desktop from FriendFeed from my post a half second later. - Joss Winn

OK, I get it, guys. I know how SUP works and I know you can use SUP and MediaRSS to accomplish what I want. But I don't want to ping some API to tell it to go pull something from a feed... I want to make a single call to the FriendFeed API designed for creating entries http://code.google.com/p... - Ken Sheppardson

Shouldn't be that hard to build. You can do it Ken :) - Bwana

Bwana: I think Sudar has already. :-) I'm going to put his implementation through its paces over the weekend. - Ken Sheppardson

Oh ok cool... Hmmm.. I'd try it, but I'm not sure how it'll affect Backtype Connect on my blog. I want to be sure the FF comments get pulled in correctly. - Bwana

Bwana: not sure exactly what you want to try - but in general any entry that links to your posts will be connected by BT Connect -- we do of course try our best to cut out things like auto snippets of text that appear as comments when using the FF bookmarklet. - Mike Montano

Mike - I just wanted to be sure if I remove my RSS feed from FriendFeed and use this solution, will my comments get pulled back into my blog. I gather the plugin would have to only link to my blog from FriendFeed, and Backtype does the rest - Bwana

Yeah, it seems like once the plugin creates the entry on FriendFeed with a link to your blog post, you're home free, no matter how that entry is created. - Ken Sheppardson

I like I like - Michael Ehline

Hi Guys, nice to know that the Plugin (Post2FF) which I created around 9 months back is of use to someone :) I am take the code dust it off and will add the new features that you requested. Stay tuned :) - Sudar

Awesome! Thank you very much Sudar! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Of note, Sudar: it would be most handy if we could select the link that is published on the entry - either the linkt ot the blog entry or the ff.im link. (wasn't clear to me if the API actually supports this?) On most of my blog posts, I'd like to direct people straight to the post, but someone or some entries might prefer linking to the FriendFeed post/discussion - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I am done with the modifications to my Plugin to add new features like choosing the room to which the link to be posted, selecting images etc. Will release it after completing the testing. If anyone is willing to do beta testing, just ping me. - Sudar

I'd love to give it a try :-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Yay Sudar with his remedy to dust off (Post2FF) - Janaree Nore

Sudar: Ping. :-) - Ken Sheppardson

@Ken, Please DM your email address and I will send the Plugin for beta testing. If everything goes well, I will be able to release the Plugin tomorrow by this time. - Sudar

Sudar, sounds interesting. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So guys, finally I have updated my Post to FriendFeed Plugin with support for rooms. You can get the new version at http://sudarmuthu.com/blog... - Sudar

Also let me know if you face any issues. - Sudar

I want it thanks Sudar! - Robert Freeze

Yeah, it totally ruined the shot. - Ken Sheppardson

Ha, Ken! - Ayşe E.

Such a lucky coincidence you managed to get such great focus on that passing airplane. - Stephen Mack

I haven't quite figured out how to disable the face and jet fighter recognition features on my Nikon D90. It's sorta new. - Ken Sheppardson

Found this after a bit of googling... http://www.eljay.org/ames/ august show in 2001 - Chris Heath

his 2003 gallery is pretty good too: http://www.eljay.org/moffett... - Chris Heath

btw, this discussion made me laugh... - Chris Heath

No, this is called "great timing..." - Joel Robert Perez

Joel: if you think that's great timing, check this out! http://www.flickr.com/photos... or especially this: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Robert Scoble

You've totally blown the cover on the F-18 program. - Chris Baskind

Nice shot ! - DAL

absolutely evernote... - tevfik bülent öngün

no comparison - Evernote is multi-platform, character recognition in photos is the win for me. I photograph whiteboards all the time at work. Very flexible, easy to use. - Don Bonaddio

It popped up in mine, too. I unchecked the boxes and let it slide away. They seemed to be my Gmail contacts from an account that I had previously checked for FFers. - John

Not seen this myself but looks a little worrying! :-( - Kol Tregaskes

I haven't seen this in my stream. - Micah Wittman

Got this last week and it first scared the hell out of me thinking someone had access to my addresses then looked and saw it was a ad from FF. - CW™

Yeah, this is a pretty aggressive program more than Twitter, FB or others. It assumes too much. - RODNEY OLIVER

This is very unfriendfeedly. What gives? - Doug

I don't have much of a problem with this, privacywise (I've given FF access to my Gmail account previously). But I do understand how this could be perceived as creepy... for two reasons. 1) We were asked to provide FF with ONE-TIME access to our Gmail account, so I can see how having our private information shown back to us at a later time could be surprising and disconcerting. 2)... more... - Adam Lasnik

I have not seen this. The Find/Invite Friends link allows single click to facebook if you've got your facebook on file. The Gmail requires a Grant Access click, Yahoo requires a password. Twitter just confirms the account you want. (I don't use hotmail). So the real question here is Which account (for sure) did these recommendations come from for you all? If it's the Facebook, I'm not so concerned, because that doesn't go against the normal practice -but any others it does. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I haven't seen this yet but it's more than a bit disconcerting. I'm anticipating an official FriendFeed response on this. - chrisofspades

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback on this promo. To clarify any confusion, these addresses come from whichever address book you imported into FriendFeed. But for all of these, we only have access to your *contacts*, and nothing else, such as your password, etc. It's completely secure, and it's only limited access--Google is one-time access, Yahoo is 2 weeks, Windows is 1 week (but... more... - Benjamin Golub

Thanks Benjamin. I, for one, appreciate the clarification on this. Furthermore, I'd like to point out, that while I'm not sure about this particular promotion (digging through the contacts) I wholeheartedly approve of FriendFeed posting notices (and potentially promotions) in this method. I would personally like to see more announcements from FriendFeed take this form (bug fixes, outage announcements, etc) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I don't remember letting FriendFeed remember my contacts from Gmail; I thought that was a one-time thing for the purpose of importing my friends. I certainly hope you don't store my password ever, but that's not the point. - Doug

(let me clarify - I don't really approve of going through my contacts without explicit permission - I do approve of the manner of posting by FriendFeed) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Like Doug, I thought the Gmail contact access was "import and forget". Those who want to revoke access for your Google account: https://www.google.com/account.... Like Rob, I do like the way those message (either self-promotion or ads) appears in the stream, with the possibility to hide them. Finally, I'd like to be able to like and comment those message: it's the best... more... - Jérôme Flipo

Was there any resolution on this? Is FriendFeed going to continue to store Gmail contacts after users grant one-time access? - Doug

you can delete them - http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Petr Buben

Nice work, sir. - Louis Gray

I wish FriendFeed had some way to tell me how many items from all the people I follow--minus the services and items I've hidden--have flowed past in the the cumulative stream over that same 30 day period. That'd be the blue bars. Then they could show how many they've rendered on a web page over the time I was actively viewing the site. That'd be the orange. I'm guessing the graph wouldn't look quite the same. - Ken Sheppardson

Google Reader 4 life!!! - Bwana

I've joined the party http://friendfeed.com/bwana... - Bwana

Its a pain to constantly slip the phone in and out of a case, but it's not a big deal with the camera. The case is a nice heavy duty terry cloth designed to be kind to the Pre's glossy surface, which makes a really nice SD780 slip case as well. - Ken Sheppardson

I use one of those BYO cases I picked up at Best Buy for about $6. Not the greatest but it works. - jcunwired

Also, taken with an iPhone 3GS - Ken Sheppardson

I should go out to that exact same spot and take a pic with my Palm Pre for comparison. - Ken Sheppardson

In fact, everyone should go to 37 deg 48' 31.20" N, 122 deg 28' 31.20" W and take this picture. - Ken Sheppardson

Ken, put it in a Google Map and I'm there - Jesse Stay

Here you go: http://is.gd/14M1E - Ken Sheppardson

Awesome! I'm so there. Looks like 2 people already beat me to it though. - Jesse Stay

This is clearly photoshopped. A blind man could sense that, shame on yer suckers! - ianf ⌘

You mean it doesn't really exist??? (sniff) - Jesse Stay

According to Flickr, there've been multiple sightings - http://is.gd/14Muh - Ken Sheppardson

Your entries themselves might be "private", but how is your participation in public conversations "private"? - Ken Sheppardson

i don't agree. if someone wishes to keep their feed and collection of comments private for whatever reason they should be able to - Cee Bee

But their comments aren't "private" - Ken Sheppardson

If you are not subscribed to someone, you can see their comments in posts that are visible to you, but not in other posts. And via a quick search test, I don't believe you get any of their comments in the results from a search. So when someone with a private feed comments on a public feed, they (presumably) know that the particular comment is widely disseminated, but the rest of their activity, and particularly the aggregation of their activity, is still private. That's as it should be. - Logical Extremes

In theory, FriendFeed could make it so that when you search or view a private profile to which you are not subscribed, you see a list of Comments and Likes that are attached to posts that are public to you. But perhaps that complexity is not worth the effort by FF, or the risk to private feed if something is not implemented correctly. - Logical Extremes

Seems like we've pretty quickly gotten into a situation with Sprint and Palm where it's sorta like two parents, one who says "kids will be kids" and the other who's ready to ground you on a moments notice: "... just don't let your mother find out..." - Ken Sheppardson

On of the advanced tech guys even told me about PDA Net. I, of course played dumb. Still using mine as modem right now. True it is an old Treo but no PAM plan and using their old mobile band software. Just get the right tech guy to add your modem profile and then change the plan back within 30 days via reg c/s. No that I would do that or anything. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Yessir. - Louis Gray

Perfect! - Anne Bouey

seems to be ok for me (Windows version) - James Beake

What version, James? I'm in 3.0.187.1 on Win 7 - Ken Sheppardson

It's 2.0.172.31 - James Beake

3.0.188 Chromium here and Im getting the real thing - Rasmus Lauridsen