Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
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- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
Good luck Ben! With you our preferred service will go more interesting
- Roberto
from fftogo
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
I woke up this morning in total pain. My hands are cramped from 5 hours straight of pushing a mower. Everything else is muscle tiredness. I'm hoping to go for a swim this afternoon. I know I'm suppose to be resting (3 days on, 1 day off) but if I don't loosen something, I feel tomorrow will be worse
- Johnny
Of what I've heard, swimming is the best thing to do. You don't necessarily need a hard swim but just getting out there, letting the water hold you up, etc. Good thing.
- Akiva
A friend of mine who used to ride 300+ miles and race 2-3 times a week would point out that "rest day" doesn't have to mean just stay on the sofa all day. You for sure want to get out and stretch and work out lactic acid from previous days training. Just keep your heart rate down in your recovery zone and noodle/wander, if you're on a bike. (OK, my "friend" is me, but that seems like an entire lifetime ago...)
- Ken Sheppardson
Slow swim and a soak in a steam room or sauna
- Mo Kargas
Or nuclear acids if you're so inclined
- Mo Kargas
Drat on you, Micah! I meant what's a good site to use that is specifically tailored to making photoblogs?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Posterous is all about that these days. Or I can set you up a WordPress install with a choice of themes on one of my BlueHost servers.
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
Good to know, Mary, and thanks for the offer, but this isn't for me.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Or, really, the dead-easiest thing to do is ourdoings, which does it for you. You upload a bunch of pix to a special DropBox folder and it organizes the shots based on the metadata. Then, go back in and add whatever text you want to tell the story. http://ourdoings.com
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
And it's our own Bruce Lewis - so it stays in the family. We ought to promote that more.
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
For public consumption I use Posterous (not actively, lately) http://wittman.posterous.com and Smugmug's API + a PHP app I wrote for private family photos.
- Micah
I've tried Posterous, Tumblr, Wordpress, Smugmug/Flickr/Picasa hackery, Instagram, Zenfolio and 500px for various mutations of photo posting/blogging, and for something public, I'd just just go with Tumblr these days. I think the community trumps any sort of technical whizbangery. Particularly since other tools (e.g. Instagram) will post to it natively.
- Ken Sheppardson
Friendfeed remains a choice, if not a popular choice.
- Andy Bakun
ourdoings seems nice for telling a story, needs nicer skins though (considering calling a favor from a friend to get one done). And it links to FF like nothing else does (and g+ and more). Blipfoto is nice if you want to try to be more consistent and encouraged in taking photos. I have found blip to be easy, friendly, clean. Also, it's a scottish startup. There's also european ipernity, which feels like a clone of flickr except with better support for telling a story/blog around a set of pictures
- Iphigenie
Bruce, Bootstrap looks cool. If you're thinking of doing skins, Bootstrap doesn't look any harder than messing with WP themes*, and that LESS business just about made me swoon. If people want custom skins, I'd be happy to design them! *I can't say I build whole themes from scratch - don't have the php chops for that. It's more like I restyle existing themes - Genesis child themes, or I also have a developer license for Elegant Themes - with client trade dress (type, colors and imagery).
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
Bruce, I will ask. Strangely enough Bootstrap was exactly what I was using messing with my skin for my old tired site (wish I'd enjoy that kind of design more, but i dont). I don't know if bootstrap would make a huge difference but I think having a well structured and documented (or self explanatory) template would help, and bootstrap or some other framework would help you in creating...
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- Iphigenie
That's the one, thanks (they hold heaps of these in Hawaii but I was looking for that particular one)
- Johnny
It's not widely known that the name Ironman Triathlon refers to both the original Ironman triathlon and the annual Ironman World Championship. Also called Ironman Hawaii, the world championships of the event, held annually in Hawaii since 1978 (with an additional race in 1982), are now preceded by a series of qualifying events. Ironman Triathlon became known for its grueling length, harsh race conditions, and television coverage. -- Cliff Claven
- Ken Sheppardson
3.8 Km swim, 180Km bike and 42 Km run... Hoooooooooooooooleeeeeeeeeey fuck dude
- Johnny
My sister does that (she's not yet been to Kona, but she's going to attempt to qualify for this year's). She crazy. Y'all should talk.
- ωαřмaiden ☆TeamOtto☆
I get that the run is a full marathon, but where'd the other distances come from? i.e. swim of 2.4 miles (3.9 km), bike ride of 112 miles (180 km) Just how they laid out the first course in Hawaii?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I'm pretty sure that's it.Sports tend to grow out of that. I know the distance of Biathlon skiing comes from when the soldiers use to have drunken competitions who could ski out to a certain point, shoot something and ski back.
- Johnny
... and just to put this in perspective. My tri is 200m swim, 5Km bike and 2Km run and I have been WORKING MY ASS OFF just to do that... I feel simultaneously inspired and sick to my stomach at the sight of the Hawaii distances :)
- Johnny
Have you seen the film? Motived me to buy a juicer and experiment a bit. Juicer is now in a cupboard somewhere... :-/
- Ken Sheppardson
I meant to watch this when it was on tv the other night.
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
I've watched and while I applaud his results, all it told me was eat healthier. Eat/consume more fruits/veggies. I already do that so it wasn't as applicable to me. (I do fruit/veggie smoothies daily without all that waste from juicing) I found "Forks over knives" a much more interesting documentary. (Everyone should still watch Fat, Sick & Nearly dead though)
- Liana Shanes
Traditionally, it's in a city that has an NFL-appropriate stadium with either warm weather or a dome. The NFL decides which city gets the Super Bowl each year, but since there are a limited number of such facilities, the game's location tends to rotate among them.
- John (bird whisperer)
They often go to cities that have recently built a new stadium or did a major renovation.
- I like big Botts
The NFL usually wants it either indoors or somewhere the temp will be above 50F, but the Jets/Giants got a "waiver" or sorts to host it at their new stadium in 2014. (New Orleans next year)
- Ken Sheppardson
They also generally prefer a stadium centrally located, don't they? So that neither team has to travel too far?
- Akiva
Not sure about that - they've had it in Florida a few times recently, haven't they?
- I like big Botts
There are no NFL stadia too far to travel to when you have a two week break after the payoffs.
- Brian Johns
I don't know if they can be centrally located. The SB is here in New Orleans next year; how are we supposed to know who's gonna be going to the big game?
- Derrick
Capacity has something to do with it, too. I believe that the minimum capacity for a Super Bowl stadium must be 70,000. (That's why St. Louis can't host it, and why Minneapolis can't host it again in its current stadium.) A stadium does not have to be an NFL stadium, but the area generally must have an NFL team (which is why the Los Angeles area hasn't had a Super Bowl since Michael Jackson performed halftime at the Rose Bowl in Super Bowl XXVII in 1993).
- Julian
The hotels... the reason Jacksonville will never again host.
- Julian
Jacksonville was where they moored a bunch of cruise ships as extra hotel rooms, right? I heard that didn't go so well.
- Brian Johns
Congratulations to all the former FriendFeed staff on the Facebook IPO! I'd sure like to know what the effective valuation of FriendFeed turns out to be post IPO. That is, the collective value of all the Facebook stock held by former FriendFeed employees. - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
It'd also be interesting to do the math and figure out how many FriendFeeders are still at Facebook...
- Ken Sheppardson
I did a caculation a last year at about $422.5 million at that point.[1] Basedon the S-1, 10 FF employees, and the most recent sale of 11,052,955[2] * $50[3] = $552.6Million [1]http://ff.im/Anvuu [2]http://ff.im/QobEt [3] A number saw this morning about a post S-1 sale of Class B stock.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
So I wouldn't be surprised if it was around 20-25x post-IPO. Of the 10 Friendfeeders, I assume are Bret, Paul, Sanjeev, Jim, Ana, Kevin, Tudor, and Casey were in that group. There are a few more people, Gary, Ben Golub, Dan, and Ben Darnell(hired just prior to the acquisition so I'm unsure if he would have been included) that I also know worked at FF. Bret and Ben Golub I know are at FB. Paul, Kevin, and Gary I know are not.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
This started on Facebook, but I just thought I'd carry it over here: What was the #1 song the week you were born? The Troggs - Wild Thing http://www.youtube.com/watch...
New Year's blog redesign complete. Dumped WordPress for Jekyll in the process. Now if only I'd actually start writing... http://www.kensheppardson.com/
The weird thing is I had a WordPress theme I'd hacked together over the past few years with a blue bar across the top that had become a little too close to Facebook's look. So over the last few weeks I've been working on this, then swapped it out earlier today. A few hours later I get a flood in GReader of posts from Bret Taylor...the sort of thing that happens when you change blogging platforms. I don't think I've visited his site in over a year, but I go there today and see this -- http://backchannel.org
- Ken Sheppardson
The existence of Disqus got me thinking I can use something like Jekyll for my blog. I'm already building the rest of my site with templates.
- Amit Patel
Yeah, Disqus is slick. I'd waffled back and forth between WordPress native comments and Disqus, so moving everything over to Jekyll was trivial. Now the question is really whether to bother with comments at all. Disqus is enabled now, but it just looks kinda janky, I'm not sure I want to spend a bunch of time cleaning up the CSS, and there's something appealing about the commentless Daring Fireball approach...
- Ken Sheppardson
When I visit a blog that doesn't want comments, it feels like the author doesn't want me there...
- Amit Patel
Well, that's almost the case for me, but not in a negative way... I'd sorta rather have any follow-up conversations on FriendFeed, Google+, or even Twitter than squirreled away under the blog post. I'd certainly like people to see what I wrote, but after that I've got no particular interest in trying to drive page views or anything.
- Ken Sheppardson
Amit, interesting; I've never thought if it like that before. When I relaunch The Misanthropic Geek, I'll definitely allow comments but I don't and will never allow comments on my other one.
- Akiva
I think both styles of discussion work. Using Twitter/Google+/FriendFeed feels like people at other people's houses talking about something you made. Separate smaller, more intimate conversations. Using comments on the blog feels like inviting all those people to my house to talk to each other. A big conversation among strangers.
- Amit Patel
I recently built a site for publishing some panos using Hyde. It is jekyll written in python. I used bootstrap and less along with it. Check it out: http://www.bedafamily.com. No rss or comments yet.
- Joe Beda
from iPhone
I once did C++ code gen with XSLT. I regretted it. True story.
- Joe Beda
Just saw this today: "Just over a month ago, I switched comments off for this blog. I wanted to post a very brief follow-up on that decision. In a nutshell, it was definitely the right move. For the first few days I did miss the validation of getting a flurry of comments on each new article, but I quickly realised that I was enjoying the peace and quiet. The other benefits are manifest: ..." - http://mattgemmell.com/2011...
- Ken Sheppardson
I have been pretty much anti-comments since the beginning myself. I don't write to start a dialogue. I write because I want to write. When I have had comments on a site of mine, it's been pretty much like Matt described. The better conversations I had here on FriendFeed or through some private channel. I'm now re-evaluating my previous statement about allowing comments if I ever relaunch my geek site.
- Akiva
Looks very nice, well done. I agree, I don't necessarily want discussion on my posts. Most of the time, it's just getting my thoughts out there, not really looking for input.
- Nathan Snyder
Thanks, Nathan. The anti-comment faction's pretty vocal, by the way, and can be persuasive... "Let’s be totally honest here: anyone worthwhile leaving a comment should do so on their own blog. Very few read blog comments anyway. I’m sorry, but it’s true. Commenting is a facade. It makes you think you have a voice. You don’t. Get your own blog and write how you really feel on your own site." -- http://parislemon.com/post...
- Ken Sheppardson
Can you remind me again where to find those stats?
- Brian Johns
Brian, go to "Me" link (http://friendfeed.com/brianjo...) which defaults to the Feed tab. Look at the sidebar on the right, below Discussion.
- Micah
0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Lindsay
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
Likes are down relative to comments, which matches my much lower frequency of liking. I'm a more selective liker than ever.
- Micah
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren
In 4 days it will be 1 year since my first recorded stat here. My comments/like were almost a 1:1 ratio then. Now comments are almost double likes for me.
- Micah
75,415 comments/1,286 likes = 58.64 - i wish the auto inserted comments didn't get counted... the true number is probably much much close ot my number of likes
- Chris Heath
1.97%. thanks again micah, this has been a great metric to measure my first year here on ff. As the year went (this being the first record of me being here that i've found): , 6.43%:1.25%:1.97%
- chaz2b
Chris, Bren, thank you. And chaz2b, thank you too - glad it's a special marker for you. :)
- Micah
63.58 (97,534/1,534) -- interesting that my last three digits are the same there, eh? (note, i already posted a month or two ago when i first saw this thread)
- Chris Heath
Last year my comments were around 7000 and likes around 2500, for a ratio of 2.80. I consciously chose to do more liking over the last year. As of today my comments number 10,782 and likes number 7,666, for a ratio of 1.41.
- Stephen Mack
Jason, Stephen - cool. Thanks for keeping updated here. :)
- Micah
Okay, Micah. <----I had to resist the urge not to post that because I know it's going to up my comment count. ;)
- Jenny R
But how many of those primordial, high interest posts are still active. Uh huh. :)
- Micah
Thanks, Morton. BTW, when you posted in February, it was exactly 0.13 also.
- Micah
Jenny, resistance is futile; embrace the rising tide of comments.
- Micah
Comments are more difficult and time consuming than Likes. I'd be happy about a high comment:likes ratio except that many are surely imported from feeds, while every Like is manual.
- Mike Chelen
it has changed to 2.2256 now as Sep, 6 2010.Labor Day. :) I added the date for future references.
- ۳۰ مرغ Loves Y'ALLLLL
Two years later and my ratio has climbed from 3.4 to 4.675. I've got a lot to say, apparently.
- Kevin Fox
Funnily, I didn't notice until after leaving that comment that when I reported my stat in 2009 I also followed it up with "I've got stuff to say." I didn't say it was *new* stuff...
- Kevin Fox
2.91; 6.43% (@ 2yrs ago) 2.33% (@ 1yr ago). for history's sake, this thread was started shortly after i found friendfeed, or friendfeed found me, so it holds a special place in my heart. thanks for keeping it around mr micah
- chaz2b
You're certainly welcome, chaz2b. In some way it feels like a living heirloom to me. :)
- Micah
3 (2.991) (and now the list has become too lengthy for me to track my progress, ;) [dumb me, i have a post not 10 lines ago in history, from 090711 2.91; 6.43% (@ 2yrs ago) 2.33% (@ 1yr ago) ;) ]
- chaz2b
I mean, I really did think Obama's nomination in 2008 was pretty damn improbable. But I suppose that's not necessarily weirder.
- Victor Ganata
Weirder things? How 'bout Governor Schwartzenegger, Governor Ventura, Senator Franken, or President Reagan? Then again, while those might have seemed weird 10+ years before they happened, but a year out... maybe not so much.
- Ken Sheppardson
The Beatles getting back together. All of them.
- Micah
The idea that the Supreme Court would actually select a president instead of counting all the votes still seems pretty damn weird.
- Victor Ganata
I wonder how many people doubted McCain's candidacy at the 1st primary...
- Johnny
from iPhone
0.8%. Slim chance he could get the nomination, and an October Surprise (probably a health issue or accident) could mean anything goes.
- Kevin Fox
Fair enough, Ken. Tho Reagan had been Governor of California. I'll give you the other three tho.
- The original Kevin
3.4% is pretty poor odds. OTOH, 26% of Americans don’t know the US declared independence from Great Britain. http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-cont... so let's not discount crazy odds.
- Micah
Victor, to me the Supreme Court thing falls more under "sinister" than weird. In fact, given the make-up of the court at the time, I'd say it was more predictable than weird.
- The original Kevin
I'd say more generally the whole timeline and process of Bush v Gore from election day onward was weird, even if you set aside how it was resolved. It just exposed a whole lot of things about the presidential election process that left folks scratching their heads.
- Ken Sheppardson
re: apps vs. browsers .... Mobile users lean toward apps over browsers [study]
- studentforce
Windows Phone won't take off. In the UK its all about Apple and Android/Google. In Europe (outside of the UK pretty much) NO ONE has an Apple...its quite astounding. Its all about Google.Android and nothing to do with Apple..which is interesting
- Scott Jones
In for the last "Gang" of the year.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Scott: everytime I'm in Europe I see iPhones all over the place. I don't know what Europe you live in.
- Robert Scoble
That *is* a big indictment. I would think someone would get one just to be contrarian.
- Bruce Lewis
Heh Robert. Talking about Central Europe. I'm British but have been through Slovakia, Hungary, Poland etc and in this part of Europe there are zero iPhones/iPads and basically no Apple. But every 15 year old kid in all these countries has an android phone. Apple dont exist in the new Europe. Which is surprising. I had to get a Samsung as I couldnt get an Apple. But MS....well...they have no chance in Europe.
- Scott Jones
I wish Steve was more Italian and used his hands to talk more ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's always a "new" world though. There was a time when Android didn't exist at all in this "new" world. Things change. Never say never. :)
- Kevin Costain
Are people talking about Roku much? One of my users was asking for a Roku channel.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: I see Roku come up here and there. But this is a pretty heavy Android iOS show.
- Robert Scoble
...Glad I caught the last GG of 2011 - ...love you guys - 2012 needs more high power women in tech, BTW - Hey John, Scobes, Mark - ...and Hey SG!
- Rocky Barbanica
Know what you mean Robert. What's interesting though is I now stream and download everything...erm..for free. Monitisation is an issue for companies I would say
- Scott Jones
When the edge is so powerful, does an edge to core strategy really make sense?
- Todd Hoff
Netflix peaked in 2011. Streaming video's becoming a commodity with Comcast, Amazon, Vudu... Netflix is actually falling behind in terms of first run films.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think Louis CK made the money for production costs on the shows themselves (RE: Rolling Stone's article on his recent shows).. the money he made on the online special was allot more gravy..
- Kevin Costain
Ken: I think you're right now - but that will change. It is changing.
- Kevin Costain
People don't realize how good OTA quality is now that they've gone digital.
- Bruce Lewis
Predict THIS - Rocky's running for Pacifica City Counsel 2012
- Rocky Barbanica
Robert, if you live in Half Moon Bay the view looks better than anything that would be on TV anyway. :-) But seriously, I think the percentage of cable use should be lower given the signal available to a lot of people now.
- Bruce Lewis
It's like waking up and realizing you've been sold a lie all your life that we are the most special country and we run it on real principles, and we have a real democracy. At least these tools allowed us to wake up and see how fake the so called 'establishment' really are
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: and that's the power they had. Not sure they really used it well.
- Robert Scoble
I think the OWS activities were just a starting point.. that is probably a sign of things to come.. I wonder if we'll see a full-scale revolt somehow. or even if that is possible.. ?
- Kevin Costain
That would be 'crony' capitalism or in Russia Oligarchy?
- Stephen Pickering
Robert Scoble: what's unfortunate is that each 'conversion' or migration caused MAJOR economic upheaval.
- studentforce
The Black Bloc is also the darker side of all this stuff.... I don't know what it all means.. :(
- Kevin Costain
Godaddy testified to congress in favor of SOPA. When they testify against I'll be satisfied. Blog posts don't cut it.
- Bruce Lewis
Giving the number of millionaires and people in power - it's clear that those with most of the money are likely to hold most of the power. They are few.
- Kevin Costain
Perhaps whatever is in FRONT of the masses, is the leader. It could be anything really, no?
- Kevin Costain
Kevin, no, no, no, the whole meme is getting away from the power of the Lowest Common Denominator
- Stephen Pickering
I think eventually we'll see the rise of fake people leading masses (like that fake pop star in Japan).. humans created virtually to lead the masses..
- Kevin Costain
yes Stephen: "TV is not vulgar and prurient and dumb because the people who compose the audience are vulgar and dumb. Television is the way it is simply because people tend to be extremely similar in their vulgar and prurient and dumb interests and wildly different in their refined and aesthetic and noble interests." - David Foster Wallace
- Kevin Marks
The only way I know how to get ahold of anyone directly is via email. Every other method is like waving frantically at someone while they are speeding away and their windows are tinted.
- Todd Hoff
Have you seen the pic going around the webz saying "I'm glad I grew up on Buffy, not Bella". Hilarious. And oh so true. I likes my heroines sassy and tough!
- Louise Alcorn
So as long as there are 2 dude and a lady, the story follows the same archetype? I'm so about to write a best seller!
- <3Heather<3
"We are very sad to announce that LEGO Universe will be closing on Janurary 31, 2012. This was a very difficult decision to make, but unfortunately LEGO Universe has not been able to attract the number of members needed to keep the game open. " -- http://universe.lego.com/en-us...
Alas... it was always destined to be a tough sell... to much WoW and not enough Minecraft
- Johnny
Yeah, it's a shame to see the premise go to waste. I wish they could've done something more Star Wars/Indiana Jones/Batman like and less ... well... smashing stuff for hours on end.
- Ken Sheppardson
Zulema, yes, but they didn't actually use a dial, unless it was an app. Phoning it in would be better. ;)
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I've still got some radios that have to be 'dialed in', [edit: though we say 'tuned in', weird]. ;)
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I can't recall ever hearing somebody say it that way. I'm use to "phoned it in". Maybe it's regional. I've heard "dialed it in" or "dialed in" used to mean got everything just right, as in turning in a radio station... but I guess yeah, that's obsolete too...
- Ken Sheppardson
I, like Zulema, think they both still apply. The point of the quip is that the person did not show up, focus fully, give it their all, etc. They merely sent along information much as one would do in a phone call, letter, or email. /smarty pants rant
- Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
from Android
I keep a Western Electric phone in my oversized back pocket just so I can truly butt dial for the hipster cred.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
Dang, that must take some working of the hips.
- Slippy
never heard this vernacular. every time in the last 40 years that i've heard someone "dialled it in" it was in reference to them fine-tuning something, zeroing in on detail or totally nailing something difficult. unoriginal neologisms perpetrated by the culturally ignorant are confusing at best.
- Joe The Sausage
I think it still applies though, Joe. It used to be a matter of setting all the dials "just so", whereas it's more of a "push button to autotune" kind of world these days.
- Slippy
@Slippy: ever used Autotune? it involves knobs. even if it's the software version.
- Joe The Sausage
merely an error in vernacular, my good sir.
- Slippy
perhaps, but when you dial something in you are not doing it the easy way. there's the error.
- Joe The Sausage
Autotune is the new breathing helium, that's all.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
Accepted. Now seeing the error in the OP itself. "Dialling it in" in that context is not a thing. "Dialling it in" as regards "fine tuning" is definitely a thing, I was confuserating the two.
- Slippy
@Micah: far worse. it's made formerly excellent singers and instrumentalists LAZY. fscking play it right or toss in the towel!
- Joe The Sausage
I'm not sure I understand Mike's frustration. I just replace the phone app in my dock with Google Voice, and use that to make calls instead. Then, I only give out my Google Voice number and voila - all Google Voice. Of course, it uses the phone system to make those calls (vs. data), but I'm not sure Sprint is using data either.
- Jesse Stay
Sprint's not using data, they just transparently change your phone number on the back end so your device's phone number becomes your Google Voice number. I've been using this setup for a few months now (on my Palm Pre) and the advantage is you get to use all the phone's native features... phone, contacts, sms... rather than a Google app. BTW, IMHO Google apps on anything other than Android are a joke in terms of functionality/usability.
- Ken Sheppardson
Donation aside, any single large purchase (house, vehicle, etc.) takes too long, so I'd swap the cash into gold or some other cash-equivalent to buy time to make better decisions.
- Tinfoil 2.0
What happens if I don't spend it all in 2 hours?
- SAM
Mac-tan, that's not spending it, though, is it?
- Micah
Sorry, one more... is it cash... or could I spend it online as well?
- SAM
SAM, only if you also transfer the actual cash in hand to the party on the other end.
- Micah
Sorry, I started thinking too hard and forgot what I was doing. Can I give it to other people, at least partially?
- <3Heather<3
Take what I need to fund the web series/pay cast and crew, buy a cute dress from ModCloth, a Pashley Princess, and a pair of Louboutins. Then donate the rest. EDIT: I guess not buy the dress because that's online...not sure if I can buy the bicycle locally.
- joey
Mac-tan, spend it by gifting it to someone(s), yes that's acceptable.
- Micah
joey, ok, but remember you have to physically get the cash to all the destinations in 2 hours.
- Micah
A sailboat (500k). A never-gonna-be-street-legal-fast car (250k). ETA-yes I could find both things within 30 miles. But maybe the car would be legal now... So 200k then I'd take 50k to Cartier, LV, and Tiffanys. Tada!! All spent.
- Lnorigb
from FFHound!
US currency? What size bills? Can donations count... cause really getting through any high dollar transaction in that amount of time is fairly prohibitive, especially since I'd have to drive an hour to get anywhere worth spending it. Even then, just counting that high would take a long time. I'd give it to Al.
- SAM
I wouldn't even want to make a rush decision on donations. Plenty of places want your cash that don't deserve it. So I'm sticking with my answer.
- Tinfoil 2.0
If you can get to the charity, and they take cash and can accept it and receipt you all in 2 hours, then yes.
- Micah
There's some serious money laundering bureaucracy in the US with handling large cash amounts. That puts a damper on being able to unload large chunks of cash at any one place.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Go find an art gallery and buy several moderately priced pieces. This assumes I'm in a market that would have such a gallery. Art is a relatively safe asset, that could be quickly gathered.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Micah, my crew and cast are all local so I can meet them quickly and I can hit a fancy store for the shoes. ;) Then I can meet a few friends who need financial assistance or drive to a hospital to donate for uncompensated care fund or take it to the Gates Foundation or something. Just don't give me the money when the 520 bridge is closed ;)
- joey
LogEx, that's a good point. Large sums of cash is suspect in the majority of places you can spend it—especially in a short period of time.
- Micah
I remember $2000 and $10,000 of cash being thresholds for certain actions in certain circumstances.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Yep... what LogEx says. To actually get free and clear of that amount of dough in that amount of time... you can't spend hardly any time making legitimate retail purchases.
- SAM
A friend in the Fraser Valley, BC (a big agri-business industry there) told me about a farmer in town who locally famous for buying virtually everything in cash. Apparently he would even purchase heavy farm equipment in cold hard cash—you know how much a combine goes for? :)
- Micah
$10,000 transactions all have to be reported to the IRS I think.
- SAM
Hehehe... combines are pricey! That's gotta be fun. What's the most amount of cash you've ever seen?
- SAM
I'd buy a scarf from my wife. She could then deposit the money in our shared account.
- Jemm
SAM, hmm. I'm not sure. However, I've been to the San Francisco Mint and remember seeing the stack of gold bricks there. It's the first photograph I took as a kid, which I have a distinct memory of anyway, with my own camera. Blew a 1/4 of a cube flash on that business. :)
- Micah
Jemm, very practical. That scarf would then carry a heavy symbolic weight I'd imagine.
- Micah
Micah, you said we had to spend the money, doesn't mean the transaction has to be completed in that period does it? Just so long as the asset is no longer in our possession, yes? That way you could theoretically leave all the cash with the seller of the assets your purchasing to vouch and process for tax purposes. Obviously, you would want a contract that discloses the transfers of your assets to their handling during the interim.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
In the near future we can read about a heist done by "a smart man from the internets" who managed to rob $750k and spend it all before getting caught. Nobody knows what happened to all that money. In unrelated news, FriendFeed got bought from Facebook by an anonymous individual. Zuckerberg comments: "We already got what we wanted, so we could sell it cheaper than what we paid for it".
- Jemm
Since I'm not attached, I'd give $745,000 to my mom, hand out bills to folks that I pass on the way to a nice restaurant. Buy everyone there dinner, and leave the rest as tip.
- The Amber
Jimminy, write up the contract and seal the deal in 2 hours and you're good.
- Micah
Then I think I would give half of it to my parents (who would drive out to me for $375k), $250k to Chris, $50k each to Chris's parents and his sister. I would give $10k to the horse rescue in town and $10k to the new local farmer's market. There would be 3 grocery store gift cards, then the mall (about 20 minutes away), I would get 2 expensive AC Moore cards, 3 expensive B&N cards, a Sephora card (Hello Kitty make up!), and hand out the rest to strangers.
- <3Heather<3
Jemm, I might just frame that and put in on wall. :)))
- Micah
Mac-tan, if the same stranger was hit-up by you and The Amber—what a day!
- Micah
Rodfather, hope you're tight with a Real Estate agent friend.
- Micah
Depends on which 2 hours, too! If you give it to someone at 11pm, they're going to find few places they can spend it that aren't hotels, motels, strip clubs, bars or restaurants.
- Spidra Webster
Pay off my house. Buy a new car. Am I allowed to book & pay for home renovations or is that cheating?
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
from fftogo
Melly, you have to convey the actual cash to the transaction parties. In 2 hours.
- Micah
Buy some stock and the drop top R8 on the floor at the Audi dealership near us. $180K.
- tiffany
from Android
tiffany, have you bought stock in cash before?
- Micah
Or maybe a piece of art that's worth more, if I had connections with art collectors.
- Rodfather
I've never seen an art retailer make sudden moves. It's more slow motion. Seriously.
- Micah
Hm. I wonder if anything at a pawn shop is worth that much.
- Rodfather
Rodfather, I'd doubt it. Either the insurance or feeding the rottweilers would be too expensive. Maybe the odd occasion a shop lands a large item they can move quickly though.
- Micah
No, but I have bought stock with money from my checking account. I assume I would be able to deposit this hypothetical cash into a brokerage account and buy five shares of berkshire hathaway or something. Or maybe I would just buy several R8s.
- tiffany
from Android
tiffany - gotcha. Just remember to give the bank/credit union enough time to process (verify?) 7,500 one-hundred dollar bills when you deposit. :)
- Micah
I'll bet it all on the Cubs to win the World Series.
- Rodfather
I'd go to the two in-town mega-bookstore and buy out their entire children's, youth, and juvenile collections. I'd donate the books to local schools (for their libraries and to individual students at the low income sites). If only the money has to be spent in two hours I'd do the book donations later and use the spare time to buy a hybrid car for myself.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Soup, now I'm wondering what the children's-to-juvenile stock in a big bookstore total up to. Hm.
- Micah
Like a couple others here, I'd head on down to a nearby bank and buy $750K worth of as-liquid-as-possible assets.
- Andrew C (✓)
Is it possible to buy a house in two hours? If not, I'd head to the Ferrari dealership and buy a few cars. Can always sell them later?
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
Adrian, only if you give me a ride in one first.
- Micah
It really depends how fast the 3rd party can respond to take that much cash within 2 hours. If personal transactions count, I could buy a pencil from my brother for that much.
- Rodfather
Rodfather, but then bro could turn around and bet it on whoever's playing the Cubs. :D
- Micah
Pay my debts, pay my husband's debts, buy a car, purchase a couple of trips, get settings in place to record my next album(s), get settings in place to do some videos, get a LOT of books and CDs, then donate the rest. It can be done it two hours. :)
- Cristal Blue Persuasion
I'd find three houses on sale for 700K and offer 750k if they can get under contract within an hour with the first willing seller, and I'd bring the cash to the escrow company, who would have less problem with cash since they'd have 30 days to validate it. Then I'd sell the house.
- Kevin Fox
Aw, Kevin. What about your awesome neighbors?
- Spidra Webster
*scratches head* Are you living in a tent, Kevin?
- Spidra Webster
Catch a cab up to Union Square. First stop: Tiffany & Co. Second stop: Wells Fargo around the block for a new safe deposit box. Certainly helps to live in the city. Whew. [On second thought, Cartier's a block down from Tiffany, so I might stop there if I have any change left from Tiffany on the walk over to Wells Fargo]
- Ken Sheppardson
Buy a house fill it with appliances. If there's any left, down-payment on a car or two.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
A friend recently tried to buy a car with cash. I recently bought a house -- cash would not have been accepted as payment (or maybe not without a long delay)- I actually asked the real estate agent handling the deal. No go to both -- I suspect it would be impossible to spend that much cash in 2 hours.
- Brian Sullivan
I would buy a big diamond /rock.. 10c rock :)-..yeah now that Kim K is having issues.. maybe a 10c rock wil convince her to swing my way !! LOL
- Peter Dawson
Yeah, actually, given the rules of the question, I'd go to the most expensive jewelry store in town and buy investment grade diamonds.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Jewelry store (for things to re-sell) or travel agency to book and pay for travel everywhere I want - both if there's time.
- Lix
Do you even have to ask? I'd go to the Apple Store, max out one of each device. That should leave me with $50,000. I call up Blake Lively and tell her to give me an estimate. BAM.
- Mike Nayyar
I'd give it all to my mom, so she could buy us a couple houses, & pay off my brother & sis-in-law's house.
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
Buy a house and anything left over would go to furnishings
- Just Katie
Give it to the government as a charitable donation to use in their highly efficient welfare system to help those in need. ;)
- Mark Christiansen
Spidra, like I said, I'd buy the house then sell it. To me, ths is all a question of how to quickly launder 750k in cash, rather than how to spend a whole lot of money fast.
- Kevin Fox
But the question is spending it in 2 hours. I wonder how the answers would change if this was added to the end of the original post: 'Or else the world will blow up.'
- Rodfather
Pay off my mortgage. Buy an open-ended, around the world plane ticket. Buy lunch for all the crack heads in my work neighborhood.
- The original Kevin
I'd buy a seat in the British Parliament. (of course I can't but I can dream)
- Jeunelle Foster
I would head to the local Maserati dealer and buy two or three new sleds.
- Julian
go to financial aid, pay off loans. book a trip to Europe for my friends and myself.
- Marissa
Now that the Astros have guaranteed themselves the first draft pick, they need to seriously think about whether the Phillies will need a pitcher or a strong outfielder in 3-4 years' time.
I think I'll start a write-in campaign.
- ellbeecee
What about all the work I put organizing support for you on the off chance you had decided to run?
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
from Android
Similarly, I'm choosing not to run. I feel can be more effective in my current role and say the things that need to be said. As opposed to, like, if I were President of the United States of America.
- Ken Sheppardson
I am taking the opportunity to announce that I will not run as running mate for anyone announcing that they will not run for office of President of the United States of America. That is all. :)
- Angel R. Rivera
Netflix to become streaming-only. Physical media to be handled by, I assume, subsidiary Qwikster, introduce video game rentals. - http://blog.netflix.com/2011...
"So we realized that streaming and DVD by mail are becoming two quite different businesses, with very different cost structures, different benefits that need to be marketed differently, and we need to let each grow and operate independently. It’s hard for me to write this after over 10 years of mailing DVDs with pride, but we think it is necessary and best: In a few weeks, we will rename our DVD by mail service to “Qwikster”. We chose the name Qwikster because it refers to quick delivery. We will keep the name “Netflix” for streaming."
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
from Bookmarklet
We dropped, not out of protest or anything, it just didn't make sense for us anymore. This is a very strange decision. The whole international/US thing doesn't make sense. As a consumer of video I want to watch video, the source of that video doesn't matter, so categorizing by source is exactly backwards.
- Todd Hoff
I dropped the combo, intending to ping-pong between streaming and DVDs depending on my wants for any given month.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Todd, it may not be the right org for a company (though the content suppliers certainly distinguish), but I much prefer Blu-ray to streaming given the superior quality. Of course the trade-off is spontaneity.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I think the separation isn't the most well thought out thing. Change of branding? Ok, fine. Changing the services value proposition, by creating two completely separate business? Not really. You just doubled a few peoples accounting issues, as well as separated your ranking systems, which is where you shine.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
So many people are going to be upset that they can't move titles from streaming queue to by-mail queue. Seems like they'll have to solve that right away.
- Nathan Chase
If I was them I would separate queues, but would have left ratings and payments to be handled by a shared back-end. Then having a service back-end that handled queues, and in the case of Qwikster videogames, then the services could be hooked with relevant API's, where appropriate.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
One thing separation does solve? It won't be called "Netflix Watch Instantly" or "Instant Watch" any more. It'll just be "on Netflix".
- Nathan Chase
Yeah, he's said something similar, but he seems to be ignoring the fact that you can have multiple front-ends for the service. From what I can tell it seems he wants the back-ends to be completely disconnected as well.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
The idea that I'm going to need to search two different places to find out the availability of a movie when my money is going to one place is really frustrating to me. I don't want to do more work for something optional in my life. There are three people with distinct tastes here in my house and this makes things a PITA, logistically speaking. "Mom, can I see X?" is going to become a question I don't want to hear.
- Fikisha
As someone who doesn't have a Netflix, let alone a Netflix streaming option, I can see the benefits of having two separate entities. For the longest time the major hindrance to getting things like Netflix streaming type services is that the contracts signed limited the streaming content to the same restrictions as the physical media. If I can't buy or rent that DVD from the US, I also...
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- Johnny
Well, I'm not really sure whether I'll continue my subscription to either. The handling of the price increase announcement was frustrating, but I could deal with it. The UI redesign makes browsing for new titles/recommendations feel much more difficult than it used to be. A rapid decline in quality has made Netflix streaming almost impossible to watch in the past few weeks but I was...
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- joey
*sigh* Just read my email, but was too frustrated to bother with the blog post. Ugh. I was always okay with the separate cost for each service, but completely separate entities (& especially queues) seems SO unnecessary. It feels like they're placating us with overly-personal explanations. I don't trust it; it feels as though we're not getting the whole truth, not to mention the whole benefit of what their product used to offer. Makes me sad... :(
- Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
from Android
I already manage two accounts: Netflix for back catalog streaming and DVDs of first run films and vudu for first run films when I don't want to wait for a DVD. I'm not going to manage *three* accounts. Time to just cancel Netflix altogether and move to all-in to vudu.
- Ken Sheppardson
Paul Carr can go where ever the hell he wants. He lives in hotels for crying out loud.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
"utterly devoid of hap" is a nice turn of phrase, though.
- Laura Norvig
Love that he makes much of the betrayal of Mike and Heather, but the better candidate who loses out due to maternity leave gets short shrift.
- Jennifer Dittrich
A little confused. When you sell you lose all control. What did they expect?
- Todd Hoff
That the rules of business, like the rules of journalism, didn't apply to them.
- The original Kevin
I suspect Arrington expected to retire. He's done so pretty ingeniously. Seems like right now the fate of TC's up to MG.
- Ken Sheppardson
Good riddance mutherfucker, save Huffington from taking out more trash
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Shawn, she's losing all the people worth a damn, and ending up with only the trash left. There's only 3 people left worth a damn, MG, Sarah, and Alexia.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
That's why these kind of acquisitions are puzzling. They are based on the people which tend to move on.
- Todd Hoff
Well, based on the fact the acquiring company doesn't actually *realize* it's about people. Sort of an old media view, where they're buying up the TechCrunch "audience", "brand", etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Then shame on Arrington for selling to them in the first place. I see a lot of similarities between this and the whole Crunchpad fiasco. Mike makes a bad choice and acts all surprised when it doesn't work out.
- The original Kevin
Schonfeld just tweeted this: "I accept your resignation @paulcarr. Nice timing to post that while I am on a plane. You are a misinformed coward." These guys are worse than a bunch of teenage girls.
- The original Kevin
Good grief! It's kind of like reading Failbook statuses.
- vicster
I presume this is all a stunt to increase page views.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
Agree with Ken. Stephen, the only piece remotely suspicious is the Friday timing, But this is dirty laundry airing in public. Nobody is clean.
- Louis Gray
Just in case someone punches him in the face for being a douche and breaks the pair he's wearing?
- Victor Ganata
Reminds me of that picture of a guy watching a baseball game (!) wearing his baseball cap backwards and shading his eyes with his hands.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Trying to be double cool totally cancels it out.
- SAM
Kevin that makes too much sense. Why are you being so mean to G+?
- CW✔
Violet Blue got her account cancelled yesterday because of Google's real names policy. That's like deleting Mark Twain because he's actually Samuel Clemens. Goog knows there are serious problems with its enforcement of policy so they really need to stop causing more damage while they work on their solution.
- Kevin Fox
Again? For a tech company they seem to ignore accounts they already cleared. Its turning into a big cluster fuck situation. I"m sad to see it happen.
- CW✔
I know Thomas Hawk's very vocal about how great G+ is for photographers, but I haven't heard him weigh in on the real names policy. Has anyone else?
- Ken Sheppardson
Here we go... "G+ doesn’t require you to use your legal birth certificate name, just your real name. Thomas Hawk to that end is very much my real name. I’ve been public for years now. I’ve got credit cards in my name with banks, verified accounts on both Google and Twitter with my name. It’s my only name on Facebook where all my real life friends and family know me." -- http://thomashawk.com/2011...
- Ken Sheppardson
I wonder where G+ actually draws the line.
- Ken Sheppardson
Not so much a line, but a curve depending on who is on what side and if they are a famous person.
- CW✔
No place consistent. People with lots of followers like Thomas Hawk get taken at their word. Whereas people who use their pseuds much as Thomas Hawk do but aren't as well known get axed. I'm surprised Violet Blue was suspended because she also has a large audience. Perhaps Google is feeling needled by the faction of people who are pointing out how unjustly the policy is being applied. I suppose I'll lose my account there again soon. I've already backed up but I should probably back up again.
- Spidra Webster
There is a group of people (One was a Google Contractor) on G+ going around reporting profiles that are "not community standard names." Its been posted about in the Nym circles. If I find it I will post a link.
- CW✔
I just noticed Thomas has a little "Verified Name" checkmark on his profile. Neat.
- Ken Sheppardson
In a similar spirit, I've decided to add a checkmark to my FF username.
- Andrew C (✓)
I have no ill will towards Thomas, but to have a "verified" pseudo under a "real"-ish-sounding name policy, when other long-term-persistent and well-behaved pseudos are getting the axe is just wrong on Google's part.
- Tinfoil 2.0
It don't think there is a single rule that can be written that would meet their objectives and also be fair to all users. They need to think through and state the over all community standards - what is the objective? What kind of environment are we trying to create?
- Laura Norvig
from iPod
I would not yell at Kevin. He's my BFF.
- Louis Gray
For what it's worth, tomorrow I start orientation, and I'm not official by any means. I'm seeing the real names debate and hope to see what the deal is and if they can at the very least communicate better soon.
- Louis Gray
"Hilarious. Google won't let him use "Bunny Hero" so he comes up with the fake name "b hiro," which Google then verifies. How's that policy workin' for ya now, Google?" https://plus.google.com/u...
- CW✔
Also RT'd it. This legal-names policy is not only inconsistent, it's increasingly insane. And I'm hearing Gundotra's all but written it in stone, as if G+ were FB or an intranet (which G+ started as, BTW). Oh, and do you see any significance in the fact that Violet Blue is a *sex* blogger? I sure as hell do...
- Dennis Jernberg
Yeah Vic is not going to let it go. Not sure if there is a real reason or if he just can't admit that the policy is a screw up.
- CW✔
It's certainly one of his pet policies. Oh, and I won't be surprised if they *do* demand Obama's birth certificate. And reject it as invalid...
- Dennis Jernberg
This is just yet another incredibly boneheaded move by HP. As much as they insist webOS isn't dead and might be sold or licensed, this fire sale means that devices that could've gone to existing, dedicated webOS developers and hackers are now going to end up in junk drawers and as dedicated Angry Birds devices.
- Ken Sheppardson
I hope so. Given HP's incompetence I think the best thing that could happen for the tablet market is for non-iOS folks to unify behind Android.
- Ken Sheppardson
And now HP is (apparently) saying they'll refund the difference to current TouchPad owners. Does this mean anybody can just buy a TouchPad anywhere right now for whatever price and they'll get a price match courtesy of HP? If you're a retailer with TouchPad's right now, what do you do? Pull them? Cut the price? I'm sure retailers with existing stock are just loving HP right now. [http://www.webosroundup.com/2011...]
- Ken Sheppardson
...that there's a groundswell of interest at the lower price point says something. it's clear HP didn't/doesn't know what exactly they're holding in their hands
- .LAG liked that
I would be all over this deal if I could. To the critical point at hand...yeah, HP has pretty much shit all over all those who would actually do something with the hardware after the fact. I really don't see how webOS is going to come out of this positively. :(
- JA Castillo
I think all it says is that when people see something that was $499/$599 that was being sold for $99/$149 they just assume they're getting a great deal and buy it, no matter what it is. I'll bet 80%+ of the people buying it have never held a webOS device.
- Ken Sheppardson
But geez... according to HP the TouchPad's a super slick device. All the old promos are sill on their site. http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo... You think Apple would ever do something this poorly coordinated?
- Ken Sheppardson
...no, Apple must be laughing at this comedy of errors. I feel suckered, with my Pre, waiting for HP to save webOS... now I'm just trying to decide if I go IOS or Android. I really wanted webOS to be that alternative, that anti-conformist option, but it seems to be mismanaged from end to end
- .LAG liked that
I know what I'd do with one of these now. I really want to find one at the blowout price, because (1) HP's losing money on every one, (2) I can help with the Android port and (3) I want to re-enact the printer scene from the end of Office Space.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm kind of an odd duck. My only point of reference for tablets is iPad. I bought one last year for my brother. He loved it but the experience of using it left me cold. Give me my old school notebook with its actual keys. If/when they're ready to pay me to take a touchpad off their hands, perhaps I'll consider it.
- Vicarbott
read that a guy bought one before the store sold out at $99, then returned it to get a refund on the price difference.
- Adriano
@LAG - I am right there with you. I too was hoping for that third race horse / option, but it is not to be and now it's iOS or Android. :/
- JA Castillo
I think this is setting us up for a really interesting experiment in what value the public really puts on tablets: Right now eBay prices for TouchPads are still $200+, but as the first wave of $99/$149 ship over the next week, we'll likely see a glut from folks who bought them specifically to resell. With so much inventory dumped on the market, I'd expect the price to eventually drop down near (or below) $99/$149. Whether that happens and how long it takes should be a good indication of the "real" value.
- Ken Sheppardson
Great points, Ken. I too think the tablet prices are too high for the general public to really consider them ideal buys. While I think $99 is looooooow for a tablet, I do think that something like the iPad or Thrive should be starting out at around $199 (max. for the low end model).
- JA Castillo