Ken Sheppardson

i can't tell if it's working right...they don't even look like they're breathing... - Zee from WeDoCreative

Bah...they all just got tired...they were so playful just a little while ago. Give it time. - Mark Krynsky

are they yours? - Zee from WeDoCreative

In the first moment I thought this was some chicken party in the oven. LOL. - Ryo

No @Zee too cute to have been conceived by me :) - Mark Krynsky

Been watching for weeks. I love that they gave them colored collars and names to match. They're starting to develop personalities :D - Haggis (Sean)

with micropayment, they would have made some money .. say, 3 cents a week, x's how ever many, would pay bandwidth plus - Gregory Lent

The owners specifically refused any advertising. They even shut the camera off for a day because UStream was overlaying political ads over the video. - Haggis (Sean)

Overlaying ads over the video? I'm having a lifestream there, but I never saw such a thing. - Ryo

It was an overlay or a popup window. In either case the owner was pissed about it and shut down the camera until the election was over. - Haggis (Sean)

Okay may be a popup. But they do not put ads in your stream. That is a little different :) - Ryo

ha - they're going at it! http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/v... - Zee from WeDoCreative

Over 7700 VIEWERS? I NEED to have puppies on my lifestream... Damn. I can't blelieve it... I'm jealous... Bake them :) - Ryo

These little guys are going crazy now. - Mark Krynsky

adorable. I'm going to leave this going all day - Andrew Smith

Scrap! - Andrew Smith

Ok...all likes on this so far are from guys...WTF?!? - Mark Krynsky

There you go. Like from a girl. :) And they all just left! :( Guess they need some leg-stretching time. So adorable. - Jandy Stone

very kool. thanks for sharing. - (jeff)isageek

I like it yet the link is death now :( - Radek Pilich

Link is bonkers.. - Drew Lucas

+1 for Ken :) - Craig Eddy

well...their contact page doesn't leave a lot of options....http://identi.ca/doc/contact whereas FF, Twitter, Social Medium are easy to find - Jeremiah Owyang

Looks like you can email admin@identi.ca and go from there. - Nathaniel Payne

@Ken, hehe..yeah. - Kamath ॐ

Nathaniel, well yeah, I already emailed them, but they had a very UN personal message on the page "You can reach the responsible party for this server at admin@identi.ca" - Jeremiah Owyang

OK, this is cruel. Sorry, Jeremiah. Identi.ca is an instance of Laconi.ca, an open source microblogging platform (http://www.laconi.ca). The person you want to talk to is Evan Prodromou (http://evan.prodromou.name/). - Ken Sheppardson

This is the guy you want to talk to... http://identi.ca/evan - Mike Doeff

Jeremiah, yeah talk to Evan. Private msg me for his details. - Andrew

Why don't you ask on Identi.ca? :) - Aaron Brazell

Evan is on FF: http://friendfeed.com/evan .. but it looks like a placeholder for now. - Phil Glockner

Thanks I got Evan's deets. I didn't even know Evan was running it, so that was part of the issue. Thanks all, case closed - Jeremiah Owyang

thanks @cs - pretty much same here - once I saw the level of interaction and conversation here I was hooked but I have always like the fact that Twitter is much more mobile friendly (especially for those of us in BB world) - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

@Marco, friendfeed has a decent mobile interface, even for a crackberry. I prefer fftogo.com however and it looks decent on my Curve. - Rob Diana

FF on Windows Mobile with Opera is very usable. Just signed up for Identi.ca, going to give it a try. - Eric @ CS Techcast

@rob i've tried fftgo but for whatever reason wasn't thrilled with it - i need to give it another look. There is just so much more information on FF it makes it tough to take in and process on BB - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

Probably the best headline of the day. Anyone else plan to beat it? - Louis Gray

I've got nothing...Marco you win - Anthony Farrior

I love articles that strategically use bold text to emphasize key points. Easy read. Good post Marco - Bwana

lol @anthony does that come with a prize? if so can I request the return of the people I was following on twitter? @louis i may just have to print and frame your comment ; ) a guy's gotta do something to compensate for the content! - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

Good points here Marco. It's always been about your existing network with Twitter. That's what's carried it through the tough times. I expect Twitter will survive this issue though. People are losing followers, but I see numbers like "had 2,500, now have 2,100". The big numbers are still there. - Hutch Carpenter

Okay guys this is just stupid. Can a few of you go over to the blog and comment? Is that too much to ask? I just went there and read the article because 25+ people liked it and a dozen commented but no one took the time to say a word on his site.. This is wrong in my opinion, make an effort to grow a guys on-site community. - Roger Kondrat

@michael ty - @hutch ty and I hope you are right - but I do worry that this has now opened a door that can't be closed. If they communicate their plans to help people reconnect with lost subscriptions (if thats possible) and what measures will be put in place to prevent this from happening again I think they can pull it out. I think people were willing to deal with the intermittent outages so long as they could still communicate with their group later but if users can't rely on that... - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

its a definite black eye on anyone who just adopted twitter in the past 6 months or so, its basically taking money out of your pocket, taking expectations out of your hand. The service going down, I can take that, taking away what I earned, that sucks royaly. Like going into an WoW and seeing all your characters gone, well right then at that moment its well, I guess I can leave this place now, too much work to redo. But twitter has the wild card of addicted adoption, WoW players can start again, so can twitters, not fun, but we can do it. - Dan Rockwell via twhirl

Roger - your comments sometimes verge into troll territory. - Hutch Carpenter

@CS I totally agree. Its always that way i find. - Roger Kondrat

I agree with you. This is a strategic blunder. Curious to see if this clips Twitter's wings or if it's got Phoenix on it's side. - phil baumann

@roger you thoughtfulness is very much appreciated - I still wrestle with posting a comment on a blog or adding to the comment stream on FF. Not a big deal in my case - I am eager to learn, share and interact and love having the blog to log thoughts that take up more room than a FF comment box but my fascinations are far too broad to develop a focussed topic theme necessary to really build a core of readers so I don't worry about it too much. @michael none taken at all - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

the followers migrate to the same people here. if you cultivated fans you won't lose them - ⓃⓄⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂⓄⓃ

Marco thanks for the post. As a user who has not "invested" much in twitter and actually only signed on due to Friendfeed, I'm very interested in how this plays out. Problems aside, the overall concept of twitter as a web/mobile/aim service is a great one that doesn't have a true (even ident.ca) competitor as far as I can tell. - Jon-Paul Bussoli

@Hutch yeah I have been a bit Trolly the last couple days. Don't know why. On this though I just get a bit 'protect the little guy' and of course it was unfounded but a knee jerk reaction anyway. Sorry to those who felt my poor nature over the last 24hrs and thanks @Hutch for pointing it out. - Roger Kondrat

great headline ... shorter article? nice style... - Gregory Lent

@Marco I love your post really can’t comment much beyond that because it was like you took the words out of my mouth. But I will say this when blogs first came about they were said due to trackback, and pingback to allow for the first time a fluid single conversation to occur across multiple voices. Twitter did this really well in its own way too. - Roger Kondrat

Roger - cool man. And there actually is a good rationale for bloggers wanting comments on FriendFeed. Read on if you like: http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... - Hutch Carpenter

What is interesting is during the drama at Twitter everyone has focused on their pitfalls and has in my own opinion possibly missed another important factor in Twitters existence and that is the market has changed or rather is in the midst of a major transition. Conversations are now being initiated on Twitter and Blogs but they are being aggregated elsewhere. Initially this happened with the support of bloggers through the use of Disqus, Intense Debate, but not it seems to be skipping over them and heading directly to a new kind of service altogether. - Roger Kondrat

Friendfeed and their kind (socialthing,etc) are where the micro-conversations are occurring. These sites are extending what Twitter started out doing so well but in the end it is and always will be a slow and inflexible service when compared to the new breed (FF SocialThing, etc). - Roger Kondrat

excellent post Marco...I like your approach and analysis. The last 24 hours for twitter have been devastating. I can't even begin to imagine how the staff at twitter must feel right now. But as a customer, i know how I feel - NOT happy! First they screwed up the follower/follows counts and then sent tweets with my name on them (I did NOT write those) - so the twitter database is hosed! not a good moment for twitter to say the least. - Susan Beebe

(1) twitter deserves what it got. forget the tech issues. they went fascist and decided to punish people for using the interface as best they could. they used a few uptight people in a mob to create a witch hunt against people who were importing feeds and had a lot of followers. They are getting exactly what I warned them about (2) they hoarded the technology and did not license it out. if they had licensed twitters technology out it would of been a very profitable standard. (more...) - ⓃⓄⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂⓄⓃ

(3) back to the fascist issue. they promised free thought in a public forum and they never delivered. the block concept is a stupid idea. obviously I proved that with panopticons and they went to shoot the messenger. twitter's architecture is a public forum open to any viewer. In being such it betrayed itself and created its own *CANCER* by implementing a block. This will be friendfeeds downfall in the end as well because if I want to look up Robert Scoble and see what he is up to I can. I can go and wait for Robert Scoble to post off his own comments and flame him. The best concept is if I can see it then I should be able to talk. - ⓃⓄⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂⓄⓃ

I agree about the importance of the subscriber functinality - Mark Dykeman

again... I believe in security. I'm not a purest, but I believe the elegance of a system should not be compromised. there are plenty of walled gardens on the internet. twitter was not supposed to be walled. ...and friendfeed isn't a good place for walls either. there are plenty of opportunities for elitism in life. despite some nut jobs, it is beneficial for there to be some free expression. people should be able to turn a thread off when they want to. We all deal with aggravations. - ⓃⓄⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂⓄⓃ

back to (1) and the license issue. if it had been licensed then it would of never become over populated and different flavors of a good thing would of happened. ... maybe even a version of twitter with and without block. it just seems they are guilty of trying to contain the wind. they could of owned the wind's license for a while, but they were too greedy. - ⓃⓄⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂⓄⓃ

@noah completely understand that there are plenty of things that need fixing - problem is that over a decent length of time a number of very unique communities have sprung up around the service - if the service dies those communities go with it - that is part of the reason for this http://tinyurl.com/5sxmzy - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

Once enough people "like" this entry, the demo will come with the post :) - Bret Taylor

Awesome! Great feature guys! - Hutch Carpenter

Thank you! - Robert Seidman

I am doing my part to contribute. - Louis Gray

Weird, doesn't seem to work in Fluid. Clicking the link quickly shows the loading circle on the right, then does nothing. Works fine in Safari 3.1, though. - Mark Trapp

Liked just so people see my name when they test it out. - DeWitt Clinton

awesomesauce! able to see it in action now. nicely done! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

always wanted to know who the others were - BCK

Yay! Wasn't this enabled a few months ago too? - Phil Glockner

Nice! - Evan Sims

What is the sort order before and after expanded? - Andrew Smith

Andrew: it puts people you are subscribed to first, but reverse ordered by the time of like other than that. - Bret Taylor

awesomeness! - Thomas Hawk

I notice another change. "You" is the first name listed for all the things I've liked in the past. Even those where I haven't clicked on the expand Likes link. This wasn't previously the case. A bit of work on the Likes sort methodology? - Hutch Carpenter

http://friendfeed.com/e/e27d30... ... - Erhan Erdogan

Noticed that too, Hutch: do you think it's sorting based on order of likes now? Obviously, with "You" always being first and outside the order. - Mark Trapp

Mark - definitely putting "you" out front is a change. I still don't know the basis for ranking the other Likes. Maybe the guys will comment here. Or blog it. - Hutch Carpenter

Great new features everyday! - Aaron Myers

Hutch/Mark: Bret already said how it's ordered. :P - Daniel Bruce

Ah, I see it. That'll teach me to respond to a specific comment before reading the entire thread! - Mark Trapp

@Daniel - ah...so there it is. Thanks. - Hutch Carpenter

woot, don't need the script anymore - Andrew Dobrow

I like this addition. Clean, intuitive, simple, perfect. - Tsega Dinka

a long list of names isn't too useful; why dont you bold the ones that are my friends? - peter

peter: all your friends are listed first. - Bret Taylor

More recent likes come first, so as new friends "Like" things, you see them. - Bret Taylor

Peter, bolding is a great idea, not just here, but in general. It would be an easy way to find friends that you have not yet subscribed to. - Scott Beale

+1 for bolding names that I'm already subscribed to. - Mike Doeff

I tweaked the sort order to put "you" first, but apparently I forgot to tell Bret. - Jim Norris

nice touch - Steven Hodson

Like about "Like" :) - Igor Poltavskiy

friendfeed keeps listening to the feedback - Dobromir Hadzhiev

thankyou - Duncan Riley

Would be nice if you could collapse them again. - Alex

I'd like to second that. It would be great if I could collapse them again. - David Adam

Alex, David - Refreshing the page will do that for you. - Slippy Lane

awesome! - Sarah Perez

Another greasemonkey script bites the dust - Shey

Indeed Shey, http://ffapps.com/showlikes/ is no longer required. Seeing a list of people who liked a particular entry is a great way to explore and discover users who share similar interests. - Aviv

چه قدر سریع,ایده اش همین صبح مطرح شد,اسمایلی جیمبووووووووووووووووووو:))ه - shandiz

Expanding shows a lot of Likes up in this post! - Joe Dawson (beta)

wow. Nice! - felix

Yay, my nick is in the screenshot, and now it's in the demo. :D - possible248

Is this the most liked post of all time? - Mike Reynolds

Is this in the API? - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

Mike - This one has "and 213 other people". http://friendfeed.com/e/f3782a... - Russellreno

Excellent improvement guys! - Mark Dykeman

yeah!! - Barbara K. Baker

I Like this feature and see that 208 other people do too!! Thanks Bret and team! - Susan Beebe

now I need a feature that permits me to "be-friend" all of them that 'liked' a post. :)- - Peter Dawson

Fantastic. One step closer to not needing Greasemonkey at all. - A Bat

I think that was a cheap shot Robert .. not really sure *exactly* who it's aimed but it's still cheap. FriendFeed is not the end all be all no matter how much you or I might think it is and making a dig at a person (people) for not wanting to link to a FF conversation - especially when it wasn't even part of a post - is a little beneath you I think. - Steven Hodson

+1 cheap shot. There's only supposed to be one conversation about this, and it needs to be associated with your post/link, Robert? I suspect you don't really mean that, and just got carried away, right? Did you post the same comment over on the FF item generated when TechCrunch posted the same thing? http://friendfeed.com/e/cd783f... - Ken Sheppardson

+1 cheap shot...definitely out of order there Robert, if that was an intentional & serious shot at Duncan - for frankly the same reasons as @Steven. - Zee from WeDoCreative

I don't remember TC complaining about not being on Techmeme. I agree it was a cheap shot though. - Robert Scoble

damn, you are good Robert to come clean & be honest like that. Who the hell gave you your ethics? You must have had great parents. - Zee from WeDoCreative

Scoble, it's 10am here, I saw the email, figured that people would be interested in seeing it, and published it. If there's a convo here I haven't seen it yet due to the time difference (ie: I've not seen it rise to the top of my FF feed in the hour I've been in front of a computer). However now you've pointed it out I'll go searching for it and add it to the post. Go through my archives, I'm regularly linking in to FF when I see stuff. Indeed I love doing so - Duncan Riley

You should know, Duncan, that before you post something you should search FF to see if Robert and his followers are talking about it first. ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Why does he need to post to the FriendFeed discussion? I'll be damned if I search FriendFeed from now on to see if there is a discussion related to the topic I am blogging about, just so that I can link to it. - Andru Edwards

Faster pussycats, kill kill! ;-) In case the reference is obscure: http://tinyurl.com/o3cax - Sprague D

Robert rarely displays that "world revolves around" me thing I am not going to stress the odd cheap shot. Especially int he context of a discussion about someone who DOES have that kind of thinking :) The funny thing is, I think Jason is a good guy, I enjoy the car / poker / name dropping twitters the way I watch "The Soup" on E!. I think its probably satire. - Soulhuntre

too obscure for wikipedia, apparently. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

link to one of the FF convos added + link to Allen's video - Duncan Riley

I hope this is a one time deal and no one starts a Jason Calacanis email-list proxy blog thingy. If that's the case, then Jason hasn't left blogging, he just passed it on to someone else. - Bwana

Bwana, one off for me. I just thought the content might be interesting to people. Indeed it's the first time I've written about Calacanis/ quiting blogging full stop - Duncan Riley

I wonder if post@posterous.com is on Jason's list? (FYI: http://robert_zrxrc.posterous....) - Ken Sheppardson

No need to apologize mate. I saw that email in about ten different places and have read about 5 different threads of discussion on it. The fact that one more exists is all the better, not everyone needs to see a conversation through the same lens. - Steve Spalding

Ugh Ken, that's what I feared what happen - Bwana

"John Brockman explained to me...", "My friend... Mark Cuban", "My good friend Xeni Jardin...", "Ted Leonsis", "Brentwood" :-) - Sprague D

His rules don't apply to him, Sprague. I'm kinda sick of this nonsense landing on my stream. I don't think he understands what he sounds like to those outside The Industry. So, enough. - Jim Stanger

Just curious here... I don't see any copyright or creative commons notice on Jason's email. Is this all just a set up to go after folks who post the email verbatim? :-) - Ken Sheppardson

FF is definitely cool, but only if you're a major blogger with thousands of followers will you ever get significant commentary on a post here. For most of us, our blogs are where our readers are. - Aziz Poonawalla

Oh I wholeheartedly disagree, Aziz. I get as much out of FF as I contribute, nay more, and I'm just a guy with a truck. Just track people that interest you and share back with the world. The people that in turn find your info interesting will find you. It may take time if you're not talking about geek culture, but this is all just seed planting right now. Can't wait to see what flowers... - Jim Stanger

Conversation: There Can Be Only One™. - Chris Baskind

what really prompted Jason to goto a closed email list, is he thinking up a startup in email space or did he miss being at foocamp this weekend, any ideas? FF does generate real conversation better than blog comments -imho - Sudha Jamthe

It might just be time for a mashup of this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Ken Sheppardson

I am sure of two things: 1) Jason is trying to position email as much cooler than blogging due to some financial motive and 2) he knows his emails will be reposted - so he is basically still blogging - Soulhuntre

What about people who share stupid ideas? Like Free Enegery, most conspiracy theories, many political statements, etc etc... - Tad, Fool

Robert, I like this and totally agree :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Tad: even those people are still smarter than people who tell you about what Britney Spears did last night. - Robert Scoble

You could replace "celebrities" in that sentence with "names of people". In other words, it's ideas and concepts that are important, not egos. Even "nobodies" can have egos. Narcissism shuts out the world beyond the self, we can't learn if we are always holding up a mirror, never looking beyond it. - Jason Wehmhoener

My dad once told me that even the dumbest person in the world can teach you something because he probably knows something you don't. - Jason Shultz via twhirl

Smart people listen more than they talk. - Randy Hall

To me the smart people are those that make a well-reasoned argument for and idea and then do two things. 1. Have the guts to put it out there to the world and 2. Have the guts to change their mind if they're wrong (or hold their ground when they know they're right) - Morgan

I think it all depends on the topic you're discussing. I'd say someone is smart if she can engage with you on the discussion and make you think about it from a different angle. - Bruno Pedro

Jason: it's one thing if I tell you "Doug Engelbart had dinner at the Ritz last night." It's a whole nother thing if I tell you "Doug Engelbart told me that xxxx idea is interesting and he's working on making that better." - Robert Scoble

I absolutely agree, Randy. - Jack Carlson

Duncan for example is a smart guy, but still talks about celebrities, so it's possible to do both and still be smart - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Which reminds me I need to talk to you about an 'idea' at blogher. ok. not really...more about which cam to get for the conventions. lol - Erin Kotecki Vest

I agree... This is especially obvious here in LA... although sometimes the celeb mention is the nature of the business -- or at least mention of -- as Calacanis would say -- "webebrities." - Andy Sternberg

Jason: that's true. I have yet to meet someone who is able to communicate (I have a friend with a mentally retarded son who isn't able to communicate, so we'll leave him out of this) who I couldn't learn something from. Randy: exactly. When I fail as an interviewer it isn't because I'm listening, it's probably cause I'm talking. - Robert Scoble

Andy: when you talk to the smartest people in Hollywood they talk to you about ideas. Trends. People's work. They don't talk about "I saw Tom Cruise at dinner last night" or "did you see what they said about Oprah in the tabloids?" - Robert Scoble

Robert: I agree. The point I was trying to make is that we can learn something from almost everybody, even those who we may think know less then us. - Jason Shultz via twhirl

I think one can be smart and still talk about "Weird Al" Yankovic, because he's smart. - MiɳiMagɘ (Sexy Scimitar) via NoiseRiver

Dobromir: Duncan's best work is when he talks about ideas. That's why I love Duncan, cause he tells me who has the most interesting ideas, and he's very willing to debate ideas (I've debated a few with him). - Robert Scoble