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San Fran Declaration on Research Assessment, DORA: No IF for eval, diverse products, open metric calcs, etc. It's super, check it out. http://am.ascb.org/dora/
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"We encourage individuals and orgs concerned about the appropriate assessment of scientific research to sign"
- Heather Piwowar
"Putting science into the assessment of research." <---- yay.
- Heather Piwowar
new @researchremix post: My champions of Open Science http://wp.me/p4g7f-nn
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and thanx!
- Egon Willighagen
OA options for a society journal - http://researchremix.wordpress.com/2013...
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Can anyone recommend a gui for github for windows?
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I use and very much like SourceTree for Mac, and looks like they have a windows version.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
Excellent ! Thanks. I tried something earlier but it wouldn't install - I think it wanted to put a dll someplace banned by work.
- Christina Pikas
from iPhone
Eclipse + eGit
- Egon Willighagen
since i'd like to use eclipse, that looks good, too
- Christina Pikas
I asked my coworkers, since we use Git - one of our new guys recommended SmartGitHg 4 (for Win/Mac/Linux). Also recommended TortoiseGit (Win only).
- Laura H.
Exclusive license to publish != Open
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I am thinking we should change the Open Access Spectrum so that rather than "author retains copyright" that column says "author retain rights to distribute under any chosen license". Copyright in and of itself is useless...
- Cameron Neylon
...and exclusive commercial rights. So basically authors "own copyright" but actually have a set of rights that are pretty much limited to some personal uses.
- Cameron Neylon
Yup.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
+1 on the analysis.
- Egon Willighagen
"Remarkable Growth of Open Access in the Biomedical Field: Analysis of PubMed Articles from 2006 to 2010" http://www.plosone.org/article...
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"The main survey concluded that the OA rate increased significantly between 2006 and 2010: the OA rate in 2010 (50.2%) was twice that in 2006 (26.3%)". An OA rate of ~50% seems a tad on the optimistic side...
- Graham Steel
if they limit to the US, maybe not, because of PMC. Worldwide, yeah, that seems unlikely.
- RepoRat
I haven't read through in detail but I think what they tested was whether a PubMed article was accessible online in 2012 so on that 50% seems plausible. Combination of IRs, PMC, and journals probably does add up. But I want to look a lot closer at their methodology.
- Cameron Neylon
Thanks for the comments....
- Graham Steel
"Elite journals: to hell in a handbasket?" not yet, says @Hadas_Shema commenting on http://tinyurl.com/cgkn2h5 - http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/informa...
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"@Hadas_Shema"
- Seb Schmoller
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RT @NeinQuarterly: what the fuck? = research question. how the fuck? = methodology. those fucks = lit. review. // @LibraryatNight
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YAYS. My latest post went live today. UKSG - Connecting The Knowledge Community http://figshare.com/blog...
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Re Mendeley/Elsevier one area I don't see being discussed in twitter stream etc, is that this buys Elsevier proprietary Intelligence. What Mendeley reveals in their Open API is only a tiny amount of their total data. It isn't click stream or highlighting or fine grained demographics etc. This means that Mendeley gives Elsevier a competitive...
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advantage on what scholars do and how they do it. People are talking about whether Mendeley will treat all publishers equally like Scopus does... there is a difference. Scopus is built on citations, which anyone could in theory get with enough money. With Mendeley, Elsevier gets workflow information, and no other publishers get that. It is a smart move for them, but a blow to people who think that propping up Elsevier is not best for the industry.
- Heather Piwowar
yes. please write that blog post.
- RepoRat
Will try but no time today. Someone else free free to beat me to it, no need for attribution.
- Heather Piwowar
the way things have worked before, a given aggregator only had access to individual user behavior related to their own publications, and not even always (library proxy servers protect people to some extent). Now Elsevier knows what every Mendeley user is reading and saving; they may even know some of where Mendeley users *get* what they read and save. if that doesn't seem worrisome to people, they weren't paying attention to the Attributor thing.
- RepoRat
link to Attributor thing?
- Heather Piwowar
http://scientopia.org/blogs... and http://scientopia.org/blogs... I think Elsevier would LOVE to peg Mendeley users who aren't clearly downloading via library or toll-gate access mechanisms.
- RepoRat
Even if they are, the shared groups (which I'll admit to having been one to encourage for cross campus collab) means all the researchers then have access.
- Hedgehog
But doesn't this mean they're going to start getting sued like whoa? I mean, it was my understanding that Mendeley's provision of (some of?) this data to the publishers was one of the only reasons they weren't already getting sued like whoa.
- Meg V. Meg
Bjoern Brembs says http://bjoern.brembs.net/comment...
- Graham Steel
Meg, I hadn't heard that. Got linky? Because that's a reeeeeeally interesting angle.
- RepoRat
Hard to stop thinking about Mendeley-as-elsevier-loyalty-card for data collection. I'm not thinking about it wrt subscription enforcement, but rather as intelligence for future Elsevier product innovations. Future product innovations that help Elsevier as priority #1 and scholarship and open scholarship with the same priority Elsevier has previously shown.
- Heather Piwowar
Is Meg referring to something like what Jason Hoyt mentioned this moring? http://enjoythedisruption.com/post...
- Hedgehog
And now VictorH says http://paidcontent.org/2013...
- Graham Steel
Heather, regarding the insight available through the API and user activity. Imagine Elsevier was out of the picture, what would you say if Mendeley used it to do the same for itself. Develop and innovate on features that it had exclusive insight to, toward its own advancement?
- Ricardo Vidal
I'd be ok with that. I've been assuming that's what you've been doing till now.
- Heather Piwowar
So, following that logic, because you see Elsevier as evil, you consider that they'll certainly use the same tools to their advantage. Which is therefore bad.
- Ricardo Vidal
Suber chimes in - https://plus.google.com/u...
- Graham Steel
I don't consider Elsevier evil. I consider them interested entirely in their own bottom line and very demonstrably willing to make decisions that are not in the best interest of science to defend and promote it. I don't want to help them do that with papers, my review hours, or my click data.
- Heather Piwowar
as somebody said recently in a different context, if you're using their products when you have a choice, then you are funding their work. Unfortunately, academic libraries don't have much choice when it comes to subscribing to the journals, but we do have a choice of citation management platforms
- DJF
from Android
So we've talked about the enforcement angle and they understand this would be a really dumb thing to try to do. They want us more as a application platform since the whole Sciverse Apps thing didn't go all that well.
- Mr. Gunn
Thanks for the feedback Heather. I see your point and can only hope that we can keep doing our good work and proving Mendeley a valuable tool and resource for researchers.
- Ricardo Vidal
We've so far been successful with the approach that Open Access papers are read more, but if all the OA advocates leave Mendeley, then it's going to be hard to keep making that case. Having a strong OA community *within* Mendeley is really important and I hope people will stick around to show them that.
- Mr. Gunn
soooo... instead we should implicitly say "Elsevier sucks except when they own something we like?" That's a stance I personally am kinda uncomfortable with. Like PSuber, tho, have never been a Mendeley user, so easy for me to say -- I'll just chug right along with Zotero the way I've been doing.
- RepoRat
yes, but having good quality data accepted by even the most conservative groups showing the OA advantage certainly helps, and that's what Mendeley can provide
- Mr. Gunn
well, there will be less data on OA papers, less people doing interesting OA-related things with the data, etc. That's why I think people should stay. Just picking up your toys and going home is the easy way out.
- Mr. Gunn
Sure, if we were children, and if this were a game. However, "if you're using their products when you have a choice, then you are funding their work"
- Meg V. Meg
And if I trusted Elsevier with the kind of data I would put into Mendeley. Here's the thing: I DON'T. That's not entirely Elsevier's fault (MIT and JSTOR and Attributor and Facebook own some of the blame, among others)... but I don't think Elsevier has exactly covered itself with glory, either, and it's *crystal* clear which financial side of the bread is buttered. Do I trust Elsevier to resist temptation for the sake of ethics? THEY HIRED ERIC DEZENHALL FFS. No. I don't.
- RepoRat
So I'm glad that Mr. Gunn and Ricardo Vidal think Elsevier will do right by all this, and I think *they* believe that; I don't believe they're trying to blow smoke up FF's collective arse. I just... don't believe that will remain the case. Temptation much too great. Elsevier won't fsck up tomorrow, or the day after... but they'll fsck up. Guarandamnteed.
- RepoRat
Elsevier is a big big place. I wish I could quote to you from the email I just got from some people within Elsevier promising their support in helping us make a business case for openness - saying they're our allies, but acknowledging that a huge organization like this isn't all going to be aligned internally.
- Mr. Gunn
I got some great email about a global text mining plan too. Many people there really believed it. There was a time and a place and a scheduled tweetup. Plug got pulled.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
no organization is immune from having plans canceled
- Mr. Gunn
I agree. Though it wasn't a passive "plans were cancelled". Someone at Else cancelled the plans because they were too liberal/edgy/threatening even though had all sign offs till the day before. I just share that story to say we all know great email doesn't always work out.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
Fair enough. Just pointed it out to show some nuance beyond the "everyone at Elsevier is evil and eats puppies" narrative extant. I have a feeling the task is even bigger than I realize, but that can't stop me from trying, and that really shouldn't stop you from supporting me, either.
- Mr. Gunn
I'll try really hard not to take the quote "everyone at Elsevier is evil and eats puppies" out of context when I cite it in my next paper. :-)
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I haven't seen that narrative on this thread. I'm trying hard to figure out a good way to support you that is consistent with what I believe, because I want to support you William Gunn :)
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
I support you, man. I just think they're gonna fuck you over, and it makes me sad. I do not want them to do that.
- RepoRat
I do recognize the possibility, but I have to give it a shot.
- Mr. Gunn
Salon commented here: Elsevier: All your data belongs to us http://www.salon.com/2013... via @Salon
- WarLord
"some people within Elsevier promising their support in helping us make a business case for openness" Yes, and I'm sure all the hundreds of trillions of bacteria living in/on Hannibal Lecter and all his trillions non-neuronal cells were all nice and friendly - if only it wasn't for the measly 70-90b of neurons in his skull... Quite likely, the large majority of people working at...
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- Björn Brembs
I honor your efforts, Mr. Gunn. They remind me no little of my own vis-a-vis the libraries I've worked in.
- RepoRat
This post captures Heather's sentiment, I think: http://www.salon.com/2013...
- Björn Brembs
Maybe I will try my hand at a timeline of blog posts kinda like what John D does.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Mendeley may want to look at the fate of BioMedNet, sold to Elsevier by the Current Science Group in 1998 and shelved in 2004: http://newsbreaks.infotoday.com/nbreade...; http://www.sarahgreene.net/past-pr...
- Matt Hodgkinson
Wow, I haven't been back here in ages. Been trying to sort out my own thoughts on this...and I don't think I have a clear answer. I have a Mendeley account, I use it for a bunch of things including feeding the bibliography on my blog, and I haven't deleted it yet. Matt's point is the one that troubles me, Elsevier do have a history of running things into the ground. On the other hand it...
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- Cameron Neylon
...but there is another side to this which is that I know some of those cancelled projects of which Heather speaks and they had lots of those good people in them. So I worry about the inverse problem. What will happen to those people who have been on the inside working for change (and being shafted from time to time) now that there is a new shiny Open thing, both as the beacon everyone...
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- Cameron Neylon
Like Cameron, I haven't made my mind up yet. Personally, I don't intend to delete my Mendeley account at present.
- Graham Steel
"It was the destruction of BioMedNet that meant Vitek could hire a bunch of people to create BMC." So I should be grateful to Elsevier for my career :)
- Matt Hodgkinson
I also remember when Elsevier bought the Beilstein database, and they have since greatly marked up access to that data. 1998 and 2007 were key years of that. http://www.elsevier.com/about... This is kinda similar.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
fwiw, i posted on it here: http://scientopia.org/blogs... I'm pretty pragmatic when it comes to this sort of thing. It's not my primary reference manager (RefWorks is, sigh), but I intend to keep my account.
- Christina Pikas
I also intend to keep my account, so that I can keep on putting stuff into the OA Irony Award group. A good bit of it from Elsevier.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
(Slightly offtopic: here in this conversation we see what we lost when FF took a nosedive. This thread is better than all the scattered tweets and news links put together. I'm thinking it's time to re-invest in FF, since the sky hasn't actually fallen (I was a Chicken Little myself)...)
- Bill Hooker
Good call. I'm in.
- Graham Steel
Something slightly ironic about returning because its back to a smaller group of people though...
- Cameron Neylon
"Hate" to say it - but other than monitoring Refs Wanted Room, FF is a dead donkey for me and has been for quite a while. Other than Libranians, it's a ghost town to what it was in the past.Twitter & Google+ for moi.
- Graham Steel
Have to admit I saw a link to Heather's post and thought "oh yes, Friendfeed, I remember when I went there..."But it is still here and functioning clearly which is interesting in itself. There must be some measure of maintenance and upkeep going on behind the scenes.
- Cameron Neylon
y'all should come back. Nothing else is as good.
- Heather Piwowar
Yeah, it's still pretty awesome and unlike anything out there.
- Ricardo Vidal
It remains the best. Reminds me of my empeg :-) http://www.empeg.com/
- Björn Brembs
Cameron, it's good to read your thoughts here. It's a good point also about BMC, which is itself now a part of Springer. I hope FF is still here 4 years from now when open access is the default and everyone realizes this ;-)
- Mr. Gunn
I've just blogged about Elsevier's emerging workflows here. http://www.darkrepository.net/blog... Scopus a big winner IMO.
- Garret McMahon
The overwhelming majority (nearly 70%) of #OpenAccess journals charge no APCs. Good piece by Peter Suber. - https://plus.google.com/1093775...
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Fun! My paper with @tjvision is @thePeerJ preprint #1 :) https://peerj.com/preprints/1/
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I will admit to stalking the @thePeerJ site a little till the preprint "Submit" button appeared. To each their own fun :)
- Heather Piwowar
One is most amused by your comment, Heather. "Well done for being number one" !!!!
- Graham Steel
Articles in the April 2013 #altmetrics ASIST Bulletin special issue are all CC-BY... because in my role as guest-editor I simply asked the authors if they'd publish them that way (in addition to the non-exclusive license to publish that is normal for the Bulletin), and the authors all said yes. Sometimes changing free to open is that simple....
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Thanks, authors! Link to issue is here: http://asis.org/bulletin.html
- Heather Piwowar
(of course the Bulletin isn't really set up to clearly mark the papers as CC-BY, and I didn't have time to lobby for inclusion of the image etc so unless people read my intro they won't know... but hey it is a step :) )
- Heather Piwowar
In which I stop pulling punches with H Morrison (comments): https://plus.google.com/u...
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you go, girl
- Meg V. Meg
So her arguments not really making sense isn't just my reading comprehension problem? Good to know.
- kendrak
Why is she being a jerk when you're essentially on the same team?
- Christina Pikas
from iPhone
she's not the only one who does that, PETER MURRAY-RUST and MICHAEL EISEN and STEVAN HARNAD and LI'L RICKY POYNDER. (There, see, they've got ME doing it.)
- RepoRat
She picked her preferred solution to OA, NC-SA licenses, and now uses any argument going - no matter how illogical or weak - to support this chosen solution and criticise CC-BY. At least she doesn't post boilerplate responses, yet.
- Matt Hodgkinson
I've had Christina's question in mind for a while, and I think RR has the answer of sorts (and maybe add Bremb to that list). In Morrison's case, part of me hears a need to be The Authority on OA (with a doctorate on the subject and all). I suspect SK does less harm to OA than its "OA BUT ONLY ON MY TERMS!" advocates. Heather P, good to see you in the Suber camp (as I interpret the route you're taking).
- Walt Crawford
The OA movement does seem to attract a fair bit of almost religious zeal on the part of some of its adherents. I think they all want to be pope of OA. Locking them in the Sistine Chapel and maybe losing the key doesn't seem like a bad idea.
- John Dupuis
And the whole "nobody can charge for anything ever" isn't part of my definition of OA.
- John Dupuis
it feels very empowering to call a trolling comment a trolling comment. I should do this more often.
- Heather Piwowar
John: That last one is particularly interesting. Peter S. and others (e.g., Walt C) have noted for years that it would be both appropriate and interesting for a Gold OA journal to make all refereed articles free and charge for (a) print subscriptions, (b) non-refereed editorial material. I believe Science, for example, would do very well with such a structure. And be in the letter & spirit of OA.
- Walt Crawford
Yup, BMJ has this model I believe. I do think it is a bit too bad... there is lots of great stuff in the magazine section that it would be better if the whole wide world could read.... but people gotta charge for something and the moral/research-progress arguments for magazine content being OA just aren't as strong. (fwiw this is why I was willing to write non-OA content for Nature's magazine section)
- Heather Piwowar
Absolutely. The idea that only a very small number of business models are "pure" is counter productive, especially for non-scholarly content. (ie: http://scienceblogs.com/confess...)
- John Dupuis
Walt, I forgot to mention: yup, I am in the Suber camp on pretty much everything. If I ever find myself not in the Suber camp I reevaluate my position because I am likely wrong :)
- Heather Piwowar
You folks are giving me so many good ideas for fresh material for my late-April OA precon (if enough people sign up for it). Keep it coming. (Sorry: Mild threadjack.)
- Walt Crawford
+1 Heather.
- John Dupuis
HM's comments are head-scratching, that's to be sure. It's like she's arguing that if Elsevier made its content CC-BY and then someone else developed a fee-based commercial product around that content that somehow the original OA content is thereafter compromised or less useful or no longer OA. Am I reading her totally wrong?
- John Dupuis
It's like how some people think gay marriage rights somehow affect the sanctity or validity of existing straight marriages.
- John Dupuis
I think you're reading her right, which is wildly frustrating.
- Walt Crawford
I lost interest in HM when she emailed me this last year:- We chat a lot in public - you are an awesome advocate of open access, if I haven't said so before - but of course I know very little about you. How are you doing? Where are you in your studies? I am assuming that the reason you chose this line of research is because of your brother? I hope that this is not a sore point. Why am I...
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- Graham Steel
It's like a car crash, I can't look away.
- John Dupuis
That, Graham, may be the most patronising e-mail I have seen! Parsing it as '*I* know OA, leave it to me, you do whatever Sciency stuff it is you do'
- Pete #TeamMonique
Yeah, I think you were oaexpertsplained.
- John Dupuis
Wow. Just wow.
- Walt Crawford
I deliberated on 3 options and in the end, chose not to even bother replying.
- Graham Steel
Thanks John. A >>>completely unrelated<<< slowmo car crash video https://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Graham Steel
HM is unexplainable. Does she not understand that the source remains oa and freely available no matter what happens to the downstream revisions and mashups?
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Not cool to post private email in public, even when said email is weapons-grade assholery.
- Bill Hooker
I'll hold my fire on Stevan Harnad, and PMR just pisses me off every time he shows up these days (what the fuck is with the stuffed animals? is he losing his marbles?). But Eisen and Brembs are very much part of the solution imo; without a few strong voices on the OA side it's too easy for the SKitchers and allies to slide the Overton Window their way. And how is Richard Poynder a problem??
- Bill Hooker
"Not cool to post private email in public" Agreed and won't do so again, Bill. (Have never done so before but I felt it was appropriate in the context of this thread though).
- Graham Steel
Eisen doesn't often screw this up, but when he does -- as IMO he did with the reaction to the OSTP memo -- he does it big. Brembs is very, very good at pushing organizationally infeasible Big Plans, which makes me (at least) shut right down when he starts up with his "libraries will save us!" crazytalk. Poynder has openly dissed libraries and librarians, taking his cues there from Harnad and PMR.
- RepoRat
@404: I've argued with HM about exactly that. She worries about incentives for the commercial entity doing the enclosing to try to do away with the original, OA, source version. E.g. EvilCo™ Publishers duplicates PubMed Central and then lobbies the US gummint, which is famously and horribly susceptible to such nonsense, to reduce costs by defunding PMC itself. (Not to put words in HM's mouth here, any errors mine etc) (Edit: PubMed Central, not PubMed)
- Bill Hooker
@RR -- ah, mine own ox was not directly gored by RP so I missed that. Mea culpa. Eisen is a good sport, you can yell right back at him (I did, over the OSTP memo, and I am but an egg in his HHMI-funded presence). Brembs can also take it as well as dish it, but I understand if you are just tired of pointing out where ugly facts undermine his beautiful theories about libraries and what they can do in the real world.
- Bill Hooker
Apropos: http://del-fi.org/post...
- Bill Hooker
I'll admit that I'm likely deluding myself as to how much of the potential libraries have, they will be able to realize. However, I find the potential is large enough to warrant unrealistic visions and push for them. And besides, my library now does pretty much exactly what I would dream all libraries should be doing, and so is the entire TU Delft, so it can't be totally out of this...
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- Björn Brembs
Plus, I do feel somewhat sad to find myself on a blacklist set up by people who I thought were on the same team as me... :-)
- Björn Brembs
Oh hey, there's no blacklist, there's just us arguing. It's all good.
- Bill Hooker
@bb I'm quite enjoying the reactions to your recent article -I read a lot of the thoughts on your blog but having them in an article seems to be getting more attention.
- Christina Pikas
from iPhone
What Bill says. There's no blacklist. Well, there is, but only SK is on it.
- Walt Crawford
Bjorn, don't worry you're definitely on my non-black list. I really do appreciate your vision of the role that libraries could play in scholarly communications, even if the path from here to there can be a bit hard to visualize at times.
- John Dupuis
farewell! @MatToddChem: Akl airport thoroughly #kiwifoo 'd. Thank you @gnat Great to see @Kubke @nickdjones @alisonmarigold @petermurrayrust
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Crafting a Statement of Open Research Principles and Practice for NZ/AU - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...
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A year in Open Access advocacy: 2012 - http://scienceblogs.com/confess...
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Yeah, it has been quite the year.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
:)
- RepoRat
Probably one of the best years to date, imo.
- Graham Steel
2012 was certainly one of those "may you live in interesting times" kind of years. More of the same will probably mean progress on a number of OA-related fronts.
- John Dupuis
2012 struck me as being a year of considerable OA potential. I wouldn't have resumed writing about OA otherwise. (Also a year in which the lines between OA Inquisitors and snipers became fuzzy--but that's a post or essay I need to write.)
- Walt Crawford
Piece from me in Nature on #openaccess and licensing and the RCUK policy: http://t.co/hlNnrniQ (should be free to access)
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Expecting extensive abuse from the usual quarters in 3....2.....1......
- Cameron Neylon
What a pile of utter shi....
- Graham Steel
:-)
- Cameron Neylon
I've started so I'll finish - shine on the important issues of the day.
- Graham Steel
N.B. to Cameron who is on campus at Lund, yes, yer piece is OA !!
- Graham Steel
Oh, I think I now get the irony. This one is free but not open access. Correcty?
- Graham Steel
Yeh, I did what I could but no CC BY license....
- Cameron Neylon
Well, at the very least you tried. I owe you another? pint :-)
- Graham Steel
...nah no worries. The fee is going to Creative Commons...
- Cameron Neylon
Story about @joshgans using iBooks to create more functional version of a research article than published version http://contributioneconomy.net/2012...
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The poverty of journal publishing - http://bjoern.brembs.net/news...
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And, added it to the open access irony award group in Mendeley.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Open access irony indeed!
- Björn Brembs
Interesting tidbits from the eLife interview I just published: "We will not be implementing the Ingelfinger Rule." http://blog.mendeley.com/open-ac...
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Does science need 'open evaluation' in addition to 'open access?' http://phys.org/news...
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The Tamiflu story: Why we need access to all data from clinical trials - http://blog.okfn.org/2012...
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Creative Commons has played a major part in Openness; now it has a Science Advisory Board - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...
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RT @R2RC: The White House #OpenAccess petition has jumped by 3,300 signatures (i.e. +10%) in the last 2 days https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitio...
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Huh. Any idea why?
- RepoRat
hm, okay. (why petition the WH to secede, though? the WH can't and won't grant that.)
- RepoRat
Pass.
- Graham Steel
hell, there are some states I'd be happy to let go. still.
- RepoRat
RT @sebschmoller: Why Open Access matters - an illuminating discussion between Peter Suber and David Weinberger: http://fm.schmoller.net/2012...
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Suggestions please. Next Friday, there will be a one hour tweet chat arranged by a well known OA Publisher. The aim is for a balanced discussion around OA and in particular, a Manu. being published on Monday looking at the growth of OA. I've seen, it's great. The 2 authors are new to Twitter so myself and someone else will do our best to help them...
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on the day. The authors are pro OA and the folks organizing the event are looking to invite someone on the opposite side of the fence to balance the discussion. They asked Phil Davis (Schol Kitch) who declined. My gut reaction was that Schol Kitch was too extreme and they agreed. Any suggestions would be welcomed for someone suitable to fill the void. So, suggestions please !!
- Graham Steel
T. Scott Plutchak is one possibility. I don't have his email address, but his blog is T. Scott.
- Walt Crawford
Cool, thanks Walt.
- Graham Steel
Doesn't look like T. Scott Plutchak is a Tweeter which kinda rules him out for this, unfortunately. Am pursuing others leads....
- Graham Steel
Well, if you're going to go the SKitch route, the guy you want is Rick Anderson. I had him on an OA panel earlier this week, and he was quite remarkably sane about it all. Recommended. Believe it or not.
- RepoRat
Ta :-)
- Graham Steel
Oh, duh. Rick's on Twitter. Handle is Looptopper for some unfathomable reason.
- RepoRat
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