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Doing comments first on Twitter with Twickie - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Will King, Jannifer @wordsforliving, Chris Heath and 15 other people liked this
This is that cool tool I was using earlier in the evening to copy and paste a lot of responses from my Twitter followers onto my blog.
- Robert Scoble
Louis Gray writes about same tool here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Robert Scoble
useful site - thanks for the heads up!
- Rhoda Meek
Fantastic Tool ! Thanks again Robert!
- Brodie Beta
http://www.louisvuitton4love.com/
- jack17475259
Cool. Just managed to run Feedly in Safari. Some errors still but functional.
Iván Abrego, Peter van Teeseling, patrick and 15 other people liked this
Uh, how did you do that? (forgive my ignorance)
- James Hull
(My second tab in the screenshot is embarrassing though, heh)
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Install it for Firefox first, then traverse trough your Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/[obscure string]/extensions/feedly@devHD/content/app and just run safari.htm :) The image base href needs fixing though. Feedly will officially launch for Safari at a later time, but until then you can bookmark this local file.
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
@thbo nice! see http://bit.ly/3W7GV on how to get the pictures right. We should be able to push something a little less alpha next week.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Interesting. I think I'll wait for the official version, which I can't wait for. The only reason I open up Firefox now is for Feedly.
- James Hull
Update: we just pushed out patch 2.0a.016. Next time you restart firefox, the safari.htm file will be updated to a new version which should have a fix to the image issue. Back and email are still not implemented yet though.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Great! Will check it out.
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
@edwk Understanding that it´s pre-alpha I´m just noting that sharing articles to Friendfeed or Tumblr don´t seem to work even though I´m logged in both in Firefox and Safari. And Safari keyboard shortcuts like cmd+t for a new tab is overridden by feedly at the moment (refresh).
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
I'm sure you figured out the different wasy to take a screen shot Thomas... but i still recommend Skitch for OSX.
- Frankie Warren
Thomas...Thanks for the feedback. Will look into these during the week end. Please let us know if you run into any other issues.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Great! Thank you a lot :D
- Lyonel Kaufmann
That second tab isn't embarrassing. A tab that said "Britney Spears Sex Video" - THAT would be embarrassing.
- Spidra Webster
@cecily this is most likely because you are running 2.0a or 2.x. safari.htm is available in the 2.x version which is available on www.feedly.com
- Edwin Khodabakchian
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9 Tools to Improve Your FriendFeed Experience – The Next Web - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Yunus Yalçınkaya, LouCypher, David Holmes and 89 other people liked this
"Since Facebook’s acquisition of FriendFeed, the real-time feed aggregator service has drawn more attention than ever. It is unquestionably a wonderful service in itself, but some extra tools would improve your FriendFeed experience. Here are some of the most popular FriendFeed tools should help enhance your Friendfeed experience:..."
- Oguz Serdar
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Thanks for the post.
- Alp
Fabulous, thanks!
- Aline Ohannessian
Ooo Oğuz'cum ilk yazın çıkmış TNW ing.de. Hayırlı olsun. TR versiyonu da yakındır.
- Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu
yakindir :) bu faydali projelerin gelistiricilerine tesekkur etmeliyiz her seyden once. listede olmayan diger faydali FF araclarini da Kol ilgili feedinde listelemis, bakmali: http://ff.im/75w9C
- Oguz Serdar
Hayırlı olsun ilk yazın ;) Arayı çok açmadan devamını bekliyoruz.
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Ibrahim, sagol ancak cok mumkun gorunmuyor. :) Asil konuya odaklanacagiz, o konuda gelismeler var.
- Oguz Serdar
O konuda da takipçinizim, ekipte yer almayı isterim. Umarım en kısa zamanda ayakta olur.
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
harika araçlar bunlar. ffsms dahil :)
- orkunɀ
@Rahmi it is not 33%, much more than 50%. Some apps listed on this post are outdated (goes out of order sometimes) or just small scripts.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
+ffblockr (will be relaunched soon)
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
I really like ffsummary mine is set on weekly ... i'll be sure to check the other sites and its really interesting to see developers in turkey working on projects for friendfeed already :)
- M.Bamieh
http://friendfeed.com/f2p is another nice mobile client. Nakamura-san does a fine job with it http://friendfeed.com/nahi I use it and it works great
- Robert Higgins
http://ffscheduler.com is pretty useful
- Outsanity
Oguz Serdar to Oguz's feed, LinkedIn, Ideas & Inspiration, building43, TheNextWeb Forum, RWW: The Future of Tech
How LinkedIn's founder Reid Hoffman got his start - http://money.cnn.com/2009...
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"My dad wouldn't let me have a computer because he didn't think it was relevant. I was in college before I actually got one. I think if he knew then what he knows now, I would have had one much earlier."
- Oguz Serdar
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"How do you change lives for millions of people? At Oxford [as a graduate student in philosophy] I decided software entrepreneurship was the way."
- Oguz Serdar
10 Fabulous Free Mac Social Apps - http://mashable.com/2009...
Keith Bennett, Lin Yong and Kirk Fontaine liked this
"If you’re a Mac user and a social media addict, what’s better than social apps for the Mac? Free social apps for the Mac, of course! In this post we’ll take a look at 10 gratis programs for connecting to your social world via OS X. From file sharing to instant messaging, from Twitter (Twitter) to social television, there is very likely something on this list for you."
- Amani
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Anyone use Gruml?? Seems interesting.
- Amani
Gauging Snow Leopard's speed boosts. Interesting but inconclusive if you can't make up your mind about upgrading. - http://www.macworld.com/article...
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Prep Your Mac for Snow Leopard - Snow leopard - Lifehacker - http://lifehacker.com/5345690...
Andrey Smirnov, Lin Yong, Chris Nixon and 4 other people liked this
"An operating system update like this Friday's release of Mac OS X Snow Leopard is a perfect time to clean up your computer and start fresh. Let's prepare your Mac for this weekend's 10.6 upgrade."
- Martin Bryant
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《Friendfeed的陨落》---又有一篇文章，和大家分享：） http://docs.google.com/View...
China Internet Rumors, 芸窗, yinhm and 16 other people liked this
如果你要上Friendfeed， 记得在头上戴几朵花， 如果你到了Friendfeed， 你会遇见许多和善的人们， 那里的夏日时光充满了爱， 和善的人们把花朵戴在头上，那首San Francisco的歌大家可以去听听，蛮不错：）歌曲链接 https://friendfeed.com/satanwy...
- K.D.
大概适合这种情绪 http://v.ku6.com/show...
- kelvin
还是不愿相信 ff是一颗流星
- /sg
我这个人 在一个地方呆惯了 真懒得挪 blog也是逼不得已才迁走的
- /sg
想来想去，说ff陨落，还不如说是自己的YY被证伪，ff按照它自己的生命轨迹运行，不受任何人的左右。
- K.D.
谁爱上谁上~~
- junrxu
ff一开始就是一件在培育的商品，FFer就是商品的价值
- kelvin
这个说法很棒，FFer会把ff的价值传递下去，惠及更多的人。
- K.D.
FF和Twitter很不同，FF是内敛的，强调分享的乐趣，志同道合交友而已，不像Twitter那样强势、主动的宣传自己的品牌；FFer之间也是君子之交淡如水，Twitter则是拉帮结派的圈子文化。圈子是排外的，但形成了一个圈子，则一群人攻城略地，组团围观，踩到哪里哪里红火。
- 36172417
2.5亿的玩法和100万的玩法不会一样，FB要是聪明的话会让FF的独特性保持下去，未来能与google wave对抗的只有FF，Twitter和FB上那种屁话连篇、打个喷嚏都要写自传的模式不会走得太远，还是象FF这样低调点好，太牛B了容易早逝
- yakoo
多好的一个服务啊！ 可惜啦！
- SimonPeter
看到最后落款之前还以为是肉姐儿写的
- 我是真砂！
盖千层楼，对吧：））
- K.D.
你说 Friendfeed会开源？
- SimonPeter
是啊，1000层楼在哪里？
- 我是真砂！
危楼高千尺，手可摘星辰，小心你的浏览器了：） http://friendfeed.com/chinese...
- K.D.
肉姐儿这个我当然知道
- 我是真砂！
openff 的名字已经定下来了？我去投过票：http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll... 有些名字很囧，我投的是 openff
- 我是真砂！
openff的得票数最多，已经有一帮人在搞了，logo好像也确定了
- K.D.
全是英文的 看不懂撒
- SimonPeter
openff 唯一的隐忧是，可能会被脸书起诉名字侵权，脸书这个域名决定了它翻脸可能跟翻书一样快
- 我是真砂！
不是官方搞的开源Friendfeed？
- SimonPeter
脸书应该没这么不要脸吧，openff是利用ff api2搞的，除非api关了，不然其实也相当于一个第三方应用。
- K.D.
用的Friendfeed的api搞 那太不确定了吧
- SimonPeter
是啊，所以说，现在利用ff api搞的任何东西都可能不靠谱！
- K.D.
天知道 Facebook整合好后 怎么处理Friendfeed 很有可能就是关了的
- SimonPeter
openff 自己开发 API，不是用 FriendFeed 官方的API
- 我是真砂！
我还以为要搞个独立的Friendfeed出来呢
- SimonPeter
类 Friendfeed 。。。
- SimonPeter
openff 和 FF 的关系与 OpenOffice.org 和微软 Office 类似，尽量保持兼容，但从头开发
- 我是真砂！
topo我再看了一下，应该是自己开发的api，我开始理解错误了，汗，“Implement an FF API v2 compatible API”
- K.D.
那真不错 期待
- SimonPeter
我希望是取消聚合，界面和Friendfeed一样。
- SimonPeter
我觉得 Google Wave 将会是对 FriendFeed 的一个重大打击
- 我是真砂！
没有，主要是 wave 上的用户太少，基本上谈不起来
- 我是真砂！
期待Google Wave。。。我感觉Google Wave不是拿来聊天的，感觉是协同用的
- SimonPeter
不知道openff的数据存在哪，免费的数据存储服务流量、容量好像一般有限制，使用收费数据存储的话，怎样运营呢？
- abe
不会像identi.ca那样不稳定吧
- SimonPeter
abe你去看看他们的wiki http://openff.org/wiki...
- K.D.
不是随便两个人就能谈起来的，得有共同语言才行
- 我是真砂！
哈哈，到时候我们集体迁移到wave上
- K.D.
那还是Twitter好。。。广播一样
- SimonPeter
不过Twitter不能集中讨论一个事情
- SimonPeter
而且我现在这个 wave 误用了实名注册，只能和认识的人联系
- 我是真砂！
哦，自己邀请自己，再注册一个新的嘛
- K.D.
哈哈。。。。我实名的Gmail邮箱被我删除啦
- SimonPeter
wave 目前还不能邀请
- 我是真砂！
Google Wave我还没用过 咋还不发邀请给我啊
- SimonPeter
Google Wave和Twitter应该很大的不同吧
- SimonPeter
930才10万用户
- SimonPeter
930对贵国不是一个好日子，说不定已经全国断网了
- 我是真砂！
哎 吃饭去啦
- SimonPeter
10：35吃饭......
- K.D.
email/IM的联系方式已经过时了
- 我是真砂！
现在东西过时得真快，不过email/IM还是能满足最基本的沟通需求，不会消失的
- K.D.
问题是人们都喜新厌旧，旧衣服也能遮寒保暖，但是人们还是要买时装
- K.D.
email 最大的问题是，邮件在服务器之间的传送太没有安全感了（注意不是客端到服务器之间的传送），完全是明文，telnet 已经死去很长时间了，SMTP 还活着
- 我是真砂！
wave 可以使用加密管道，因为wave可能会有很多商业用户，加密是肯定的
- 我是真砂！
其实如果大家（包括用户和服务商）都使用加密管道的话，GFW 自己就会倒掉，因为它没法监测了
- 我是真砂！
finger 属于无关痛痒的小立本
- 我是真砂！
@topo 那 GFW 可以通过嗅探出 SSL 证书阻断连接啊
- Rat2
gfw还可以直接拔网线，还可以主动攻击twitter：）））
- K.D.
回来啦
- SimonPeter
11：01回来，吃了快半个小时
- K.D.
@Ratoo 这个是非常难的，一方面GFW工作量太大，另一方面加密管道可以增加密钥位数和定时生成新的密钥来级数倍加重 GFW 的工作量，嗅探证书本身只能伪造身份，无法猜出密钥，即使用穷举法猜密钥，也无法攻克定时生成的新密钥
- 我是真砂！
把GFW逼急了，人家有可能拔掉光纤
- SimonPeter
@KD，GFW发现twitter应该是最开始监测关键词后盯上的，如果GFW无法监测，它就很难这样定点攻击，另外当然可以拔网线，party什么都干得出来，不过拔网线也是有代价的，拔了以后就不要再想举办O晕会这样的意淫工程了
- 我是真砂！
小立本是山东话，小伙计的意思
- 我是真砂！
刚看到一篇wave的文章，讲google wave如何改变科学研究的方式 http://www.nature.com/news...
- K.D.
Google Wave的帐号 是不是根据Gmail帐号来的？
- SimonPeter
好吧，我这条发出去估计能收获不少鄙视，最近我在干的事情就是山寨FF，目前实现基本的功能，有兴趣的可以去看看，http://imigu.com 投资理财行业社区类的。我也在考虑开源的问题，没确定，我个人倾向开源。
- yinhm
@kelvin 科学研究，哈，其实FF用来协作也是可以的，只是似乎没人尝试.
- K.D.
@Yinhaiming 页面错误：（ 另外，强烈支持哦XD
- K.D.
@Yinhaiming 改了下设置，进去了：）
- K.D.
在SL里参加Science Online London 2009 http://www.scienceonlinelondon.org/second-...
- kelvin
一瓢纯水 一百楼
- /sg
@Yinhaiming 亮话天窗童鞋的头像怎么这么像鹏伯
- 我是真砂！
@topo 我也不清楚来历。。。
- yinhm
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Apple Mac mini purchase claimed to ship with Snow Leopard disc - http://www.appleinsider.com/article...
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Google Groups Integrates with Google's Web Apps - http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009...
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Kol Tregaskes, Lora Lufark, Lin Yong and 4 other people liked this
"Google Groups is one of the services that would benefit a lot from an integration with Google Calendar, Google Docs, Google Sites and other Google apps. It makes sense to create a document and to collaborate with other group members or to create a calendar and share it with your group. Google blog announced that the integration is already available. "As an example, imagine you're organizing a local intramural softball team tournament. You use Google Docs to keep track of the rosters for each team as well as each team's performance. You want all the players, but only the players, to have editing access. You already have a Google Group set up with the tournament participants, so you simply share the spreadsheet with the group itself, granting the group members permission to edit.""
- arnaldostream
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Finally seeing some synergy between Google products. Google Docs looks like the base of the GDrive now.
- Vezquex
Custom FriendFeed themes and a way to show them off - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Technovalley (Bangladesh), "Serhat Ozan", Jason A. Samfield and 216 other people liked this
"Starting today, people who visit your profile will see it in the theme you've chosen... We've [also] added an option that lets you create a custom theme by uploading a background image and choosing a few colors."
- Bret Taylor
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This is all for MG: http://friendfeed.com/parisle...
- Bret Taylor
See FF is not dead...yet. :)
- BRҰANSAҰS
Cool, thanks Bret!!
- Kol Tregaskes
MG?
- Kol Tregaskes
MG Spiegler?
- BRҰANSAҰS
Ah, thanks for the edit there, Bret. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Rolling out these features pretty darn quick
- anna sauce
Awesome!
- Robert Scoble
Cool!
- Anne Bouey
Anyone else have a duck scrolling across your screen that you can shoot?
- Sam Houston
Sam: I made FriendFeed News duck hunt despite the objections of almost everyone in the office :) http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Bret Taylor
I LOVE IT!!! I'm going to have to "greasemonkey-remove" the borders around the box titles.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
thankyou, done deal & it looks good, thanks again, :)
- chaz2b
Haha, cool. Thanks for the answer Bret :) BTW Congrats on the acquisition earlier this week. Fantastic news for a great team and great product :)
- Sam Houston
Zul, hold on that a sec...
- Kevin Fox
Oh my! WILL DO! *holding pattern commenced*
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
(Deleted: Nevermind. Sorry Kevin, Bret.)
- Meryn Stol
Must be Bret's theme, Sam.
- Kol Tregaskes
Meryn: you can do that by clicking "Settings" and then un-check the "See other people's themes" checkbox
- Bret Taylor
Yay! Let's party like it's 2004 and we're customising our Myspace profiles!
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Bret: is this to help usher in branded pages for companies, celebrities,etc?
- BRҰANSAҰS
Called it! ~ http://ff.im/5aLBG ;)
- CannonGod
Bryan: yep, that is one of the goals.
- Bret Taylor
So silly. :)
- Louis Gray
Duck hunt is awesome! Tell Kevin to go sit in the corner for a while. :-)
- Robert Scoble
But what if I don't want to see other people's themes? There's a reason I avoid doing that on Twitter. Can we make our theme the default at all times?
- Anika
yes, finally. hot dog theme.
- MG Siegler
Anika, you can turn it off in your settings. Both others' seeing yours and/or you seeing others'.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Nice! (especially "See other people's themes" config option)
- Micah
Hot dog? No way man... BACON!
- Mark Krynsky
thanks Bret, I'm working on it :)
- MG Siegler
not sure if I am happy about this one :) Thanks for the updates though!
- Tim Hoeck
Zulema, the box-border bug is fixed now. Thanks!
- Kevin Fox
very nice! - to see profiles with theme selected by owner, not our own ...
- pb:
I was hoping for long time to see this =) Thank you people.
- Durukan Duru
So FF is sticking around? I'm confused. When will we know of the future of FF?
- Kol Tregaskes
Tim: Uncheck both checkboxes in the settings dialog and the feature will go away completely for you.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin: on my page, my name is fading into the background. Any way to control the color of that text?
- Robert Scoble
Oh no, celebrities. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
ah, I figured as much there would be a setting, thanks Kevin! :P
- Tim Hoeck
Thank you, LE. It wouldn't have killed me to check that first, but I'm super tired.
- Anika
Robert: If you change your theme's background color to black (even though it won't display because of hte tiling) the links will turn white.
- Kevin Fox
Robert, that's too much green monster for me. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
to your guys' credit you make it pretty hard to make this as hideous as you can make Gmail
- MG Siegler
You're doing pretty good MG
- Casey Muller
@ Chris ..well, how about to make this personal themes showing through an option? /quick button, no need to go to settings - that'd be too far :] .. option for viewer, not for author
- pb:
Ok so I'm shooting ducks here. is that part of the custom pages open to all?
- BairdWilliamson
I'm sorry, but this is the lamest thing FF has done (besides sell to Facebook, perhaps). This should not be default, especially when there's a theme that sends a duck flying across pages distracting you from reading them (it's like 1997 all over again). The only upside is that you can turn it off. It's a neat gimmick the first time, but after that it's just lame and becomes a...
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- Tanath
I'm sorry, Tanath, but I 100.000% disagree with you. Don't like it? Turn it off. Me? I love it.
- Stephen Mack
Already have - but it shouldn't be default behaviour.
- Tanath
Why not? I bet more people love it than hate it.
- Stephen Mack
Look, I'm excited that FF is still being worked on too, but this is arguably a step in the wrong direction. There's reasons why MySpace is going down the toilet, and different themes on every page is one of them. I'm inclined to take that bet, just not at this early point because it's mostly die-hard FF addicts that even know of the feature's existence.
- Tanath
As long you guys don't f*** with it, I can't see a problem. Why should FF staff avoid a feature only fearing its possible misuse? I'd rather see an option inside FF to explicitly hide user themes, if they get disturbing.
- David Schmidt
On or off, I can't see any themes on friendfeed except what I have in my browser's usercontent.css file. It would have been nice to include an "advanced user" feature that could have allowed us to enter in our own custom CSS for designing our own theme, sort of like how LiveJournal allows. That would have not only allowed customizing on friendfeed, it would also fix the problem with...
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- April
David: you can hide other people's themes in your settings (top right of the page)
- Bret Taylor
April, that is a good idea.
- joey
The Coolest and Creative FriendFeed Theme http://friendfeed.com/yusuph... (http://friendfeed.com/burakdo...)
- Yusuf Ibili
Bret: There ya go, you guys are fabulous and amazing. Nothing to complain about here on FF.
- David Schmidt
@joey It was something I suggested over a month ago as a one possible solution to a problem I discovered. http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- April
Comparisons to MySpace seem off, since custom themes involve only four possibilities (background image, background color, bar color and box color) -- no widgets, no custom HTML, etc. And first and foremost, they can be switched off. How many times do you visit someone else's page on FF anyway? Most of the time is in your home feed or different lists. I just don't get the negativity, when it's a fun and optional feature that you can opt out from ever seeing again in about two seconds.
- Stephen Mack
I don't know if I consider customizing a few basic settings is really a "Theme".
- Steve de Mena
The correct analogy is to twitter.com user pages, right?
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, that was our thinking internally, though we also give a bit more control with the checkboxes.
- Kevin Fox
Forcing themes on others is bad. This needs an opt out. Glad I use custom CSS.
- Michael W. May
Michael: It DOES have an opt out. If you don't like it please opt out! Click Settings in upper right, you'll see two prominent check boxes regarding theme display.
- Stephen Mack
Kevin: Thanks! You're right, you did twitter one better by letting people opt out of seeing customized themes entirely.
- Stephen Mack
Michael, just uncheck the "See other people's themes" checkbox under settings and you won't see anyone else's theme.
- Dan Hsiao
Stephen's right. Read Bret's comment further up: "[Y]ou can do that by clicking "Settings" and then un-check the "See other people's themes" checkbox" - Bret Taylor
- Micah
i really like this.really really :-)
- dwightboozer
If this is any indication of what is to come, congrats :) Absolutely gorgeous!
- mySingapore
Thanks to the FF staff, this has been a long awaited request =) Ya'll rock!
- FFing Enigma
What's the next? I guess "FF background creator tools" will come out nowadays. :)
- Oguz Serdar
To begin with, is "Themes" really a necessary feature? Still, great to see the new features coming. =)
- Winston Teo
sytycd = best theme ever!
- Jen Liao
Winston: yes. I've been waiting for this for a long time. It lets me put some personality onto my home page and that is, believe it or not, important. Very important for brands, too, if this is going to become a business.
- Robert Scoble
love this :)
- Edgar Rodríguez
Bret u rock!
- orionstarr
from iPhone
I had not noticed the steampunk theme. Awesome.
- j1m
@Stephen Mack so it does, thanks, and apologies. I shouldn't comment before mocha, I know this.
- Michael W. May
It's great ! My new theme : http://friendfeed.com/allford...
- All for design
@All for design: Nice theme. Only the blue of the logo sticks out like a sore thumb.
- ˈpɛbə
Can you guys stop adding awesome new features, please? Otherwise, no-one else will have a chance to catch up and it'll be an even greater disappointment when it goes. ;)
- James Myatt
Check Out My Theme;)
- Alper
Is it possible to make the background image resolution neutral... It is spoiling my lulz --> http://www.friendfeed.com/jworthi...
- Johnny
I changed my background, but how do I let others see? when I click Bret's page, I still see my own background...I assume this is similar to twitter's custom theme where every user has a different background when their link is clicked. (I'm on friendfeed.com/bret, but still seeing my own background). -edit-Nvm...I guess I have to log out to see it...
- brainno722 (Peter)
@Kevin, thanks for removing the borders <3. @Peter he probably doesn't have a theme set for his own profile...
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
issue uploading background. hangs on firefox & safari. tile image checkbox is greyed out.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
how can i change the font color of "my name"?
- Bahriye
Google Chrome Beta Is 34% Faster Than Safari - http://www.cultofmac.com/google-...
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Could you remark on Chrome's security (as compared to Firefox). I really like Chrome's format, but I feel more secure with Firefox.
- DonnaSue
I'm pretty sure it's on par with Firefox. I'll try to track down a couple links for you after I eat some lunch.
- Joshua Schnell
Thank you, Joshua!
- DonnaSue
Most of those look pretty old though, so a lot of that stuff may have been addressed
- Joshua Schnell
Chrome For Mac Continues March Forward With Bookmarks And Better Flash - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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I'm sharing this from Chromium. Works beautifully.
- MG Siegler
from Bookmarklet
nice... that means we're very close
- Chris Heath
I have some issues with Google Voice on Chrome Mac...
- Luka
haven't tried that yet luka, anything specific?
- MG Siegler
Yes the sad chrome icon appears... I am making a screen capture...
- Luka
Here is what I get when going to google.com/voice : http://memory.jeremilhau.fr/voicech... I'm using Chrome 3.0.198.1 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard
- Luka
seems to work fine for me, using it right now. but remember, i'm using the new chromium build.
- MG Siegler
Chrome for Linux Ubuntu got Flash plugin support as well in the developers release. It's not super stable on my computer though. So I'm waiting for them to stabilize it. Well perhaps there might be a new Chrome for Ubuntu that was also just released with more stable Flash support. Checking that out.
- Charbax
i'm experiencing scroll lag in 4.0.202 (23300), and flash is no better than in 23017. maybe next time.
- Kemal Hadimli
Fwd: How to use the new Google Reader feature to "Send to" FriendFeed: (via http://friendfeed.com/bgolub...) 如何在google reader里直接把条目发送到FF！！！
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Obviously I can't provide a lot of detailed plans and guarantees, but I can tell you that I'll do my personal best to ensure that the FriendFeed users and community are treated right. I love this product too, and don't want to see it disappear.
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Thank you, Paul.
- joey
:)
- iTad
I hope so.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Thank you, Paul. Hearing something is always better than hearing nothing =)
- FFing Enigma
I think this was a smart move fore FF and FB
- Joe Hall
What about the service?
- Amit Morson
That's a start. Thanks for reaching out.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Thanks Paul.
- sean percival
Thanks Paul
- Mike Doeff
We don't want it to go either.
- Yolanda
I would not expect any less from such a cool guy like you, thanks! :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Please keep it going for as long as you can or until you can make Facebook actually work.
- AJ Kohn
That's heartening, Paul. Thanks.
- Anika
We love you guys and FriendFeed.. we are just a little hurt and worried.. just please give us details as soon as possible.
- Tim Hoeck
FriendFeed lets me use people as filters to turn data into information. Facebook doesn't. Until it does, please, Please, PLEASE keep FriendFeed as a destination alive.
- AJ Kohn
congrats guys! facebook needs what you got!
- Lorna Herf
I'm sorry that I haven't said more about this. As you can imagine, it has been an extraordinarily busy day (and I've barely slept in the past week).
- Paul Buchheit
I'll add my plea to the chorus: Please don't take FriendFeed away from us. And don't make us go to Facebook (because we won't). FriendFeed means a lot to a lot of people and the thought that it will dry up and blow away shortly is very disturbing.
- Lindsay
It's still great to hear from you Paul. Congrats on that new swimming pool full of cash. :D
- iTad
Simply glad you're here now. You've always been a very responsive and transparent team. As much as I cringe at the thought of FF going away, I *am* happy for you and the team.
- AJ Kohn
Thanks Paul.
- John (bird whisperer)
Thank you kind sir.
- Andrew Smith
I request you make it to the next scheduled FFundercats podcast to talk to the community. This announcement deserves a live appearance to the community.
- Eric
Have been dealing unsucessfully with Twitter for two days, trying to get logged in...Their password reset page says"Snap we can't find you." I keep writing to Tech Support at Twitter and get their helpful auto-generated Twitter Trouble shooting email. My problem is not there. =( Hope FriendFeed does not get that blaise about helping users. @EV
- SashaKane
If FB can't keep the service running, would you consider open-sourcing the thing, so we can?
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Hi Paul, thanks for the assurances. In the future, I would highly suggest that you make this sort of statement shortly after the initial merger release. Thanks again.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Thanks for keeping the passion!
- Shane
Nice to hear Paul. Thanks.
- Mark Krynsky
I would like to give you a hug right now Paul. However, that would be awkward and April might beat me up so I will just say thank you and press the like button.
- EricaJoy
Best news I have heard today.
- Angus Burton
Thank you for affirming that. Much appreciated.
- Karoli
A few more points that would be nice to have addressed soon. Ability to export data, tool to import friends to Facebook, and will ff.im urls continue to function?
- Mark Krynsky
Amelioration??
- heretic_twit
Those that like friendfeed as is should be most pleased with this statement, as it probably means maintenance to keep the current system as is, without as much attention to new features. It's also good news for all those who like both friendfeed and facebook, as facebook will likely adopt the better features from friendfeed
- Ivan Kirigin
That means an awful lot to me.
- Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
This has been quite a day! Can't wait to hear what is next!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Thank you, Paul. Thank you for coming out from behind the curtain and finally giving us some communication, some semblance of hope.
- Akiva
So we can expect a Facebook adaption of this? I like this technology over everyone else!
- Shaggy Jenkins
Eric, my schedule is still a little uncertain at the moment, but I'd be glad to appear on a future FFundercats.
- Paul Buchheit
That would be a good thing Paul. Thanks.
- Eric
Cool :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Thanks for making FriendFeed what it is, and lets hope it stays that way, though there's slim chance of that
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Now that I think about it: are you kidding me? They've already stated that FriendFeed's going to be absorbed into Facebook. What kind of sleight-of-hand are you trying to pull now, Paul?
- Akiva
@EricaJoy: I have nothing against hugs. :)
- April Buchheit
Thanks!
- Vincenzo Piromalli
Thanks, Paul. I've been getting more and more depressed thinking about the bad ways this could go. The reassurances help a bit, at least. In fact, just hearing you speak on the point is encouraging - the open lines of communication between the FriendFeed team and its users has always been one of the great things about FriendFeed that I'm afraid will be lost with the Facebook buyout. And yes, a FFundercats appearance would be a great idea.
- Jandy
I don't want to read too much into this reassurance but the "personal best" remark made me think like there is not a united FF anymore and that it's up to your personal efforts to prevent it from being eaten by FB :)
- Turker Keskinpala
you can sell the tech but the community can not be bought sold transferred or merged
- Robert Higgins
from m.ctor.org
Turker, I do believe that this deal was the right decision -- I'll write a bit more about that when I get a chance. I say that I'll do my "personal best" because I will -- it would be misleading to make promises on other's behalf :)
- Paul Buchheit
Hoping so... practicing patience
- Majento
Paul: I'm hopeful that this will be the best for both Facebook and Friendfeed. What you and the staff at FF have done is amazing, with only 12 people! I love the service here. I also enjoy Facebook (one I ignore all quizzes and stupid apps), but in a different way. Hoping some coolness can be brought to both. Good luck to you and your team!
- Travis B. Hartwell
this echoes star wars galaxies, incredible unique community. but they upgraded it to be like world of warcraft. this is a replay of the devs soothing messages. the forums were livid the community evaporated.
- Robert Higgins
from m.ctor.org
When socialmedian was acquired by Xing they left it alone. I hope the same happens here. I'm sure you will do your best though!
- Michael Fidler
On behalf of the Dutch citizens our Queen wants to let you know: Thx Paul.
- Ton Zijp
Don't know what to say, so lets start with big congrats! from one hand, as an early member of Friendfeed I think we've created here a very cool, collaborative and tech-savvy/passionate community of great people that all probably wish to stick around as much as possible. From the other hand, I know how corporates work and it takes one small decision of share holders to close Friendfeed...
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- Nir Ben Yona
My first reaction is disappointment. I don't believe big corporations do better than small ones. Facebook is inferior to FriendFeed, although it's user base is much larger. Clearly FriendFeed won't survive in the long term, unless it is open sourced. Why not open up and embrace the wonders of the GPL instead of joining forces with the Walled Garden no #1? Facebook don't even operate with permalinks,.
- Morten Blaabjerg
Thanks for the explanation Paul. Of course, I congratulate you guys. I think anyone would do the same thing if they were in your shoes :)
- Turker Keskinpala
Very bittersweet clicking [Like] on this one.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
A big congrats for you guys.. However, I feel kind of sorrow :)
- Özkan Altuner
good to hear
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Thank you - but I would very much like our content to stay intact. :)
- Mona Nomura
Ryo: if you delete your account everything goes away. I totally disagree with you about Facebook, but that's OK.
- Robert Scoble
Good to hear. Unfortunately I think Facebook are going to download the brains of all FriendFeed staff then kill FF.
- Michael McGimpsey
but Paul it is going to disappear - Facebook bought FF not for the site but for you guys. So obviously once its integrated into Facebook, development on FF will stop
- Anthony Feint
If FriendFeed and all of it's functionality get integrated into Facebook I'm all for it.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Thank you Paul! Congrats on the deal!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Paul - that's great news. It surely can't cost a lot to keep this place running and it's a good place to try out ideas before they move to FB.
- Martin Bryant
what about improving the product and making sure it gets more users, not only supports those who stay?
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar - unlikely. Facebook bought FF for the developer talent, not for FriendFeed itself.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Martin - I also think so, and it is most likely. But I could still have a hope
- Ihar Mahaniok
Paul, please - underpromise & overdeliver...they say it works.
- A. T.
Nice to hear. Too bad you don't call the shots anymore.
- JCunwired
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! (nice name for Facebook skunkworks) I'm sure everyone would love to see FriendFeed itself stay around, even if the innovations that happen are geared towards implementation at Facebook. Thanks for this note Paul! :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
There are a few promises and guarantees that you SHOULD be able to provide. Like, that our network of friends will remain intact and that the features that make this site great will remain. If you can't make those promises, then you shouldn't have done the deal. I sure do hope that the real-time search engine wasn't the centerpiece of this deal (it probably was), because that certainly...
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- Brad Williamson
Paul you did such a nice job with friendfeed, and I so want to believe you, but I'm not sure I can. Not because of you, but because of your new employer. Because your new employer is no longer you, and while I have kind of come to trust you, I do not trust your new boss. Not at all. Please prove me wrong, if they'll let you.
- Vicarbott
Paul - thanks for that reassurance. PLEASE stick to that! I was in the middle of reading and participating in a lengthy discussion off of a Robert Scoble post yesterday ... then I came up for air and saw your news. Congratulations - I have no idea what that feels like or how pumped you must be. There are so many things FF does that I LOVE...I know you know that. Please Please PLease dont' go away! Thanks!
- Tobin Truog
Thanks for the personal note Paul.
- Mike Reynolds
Phewww..relief ;-)
- Ritu
First zombie/mafia request and we're all outta here....
- Fossil Huntress
+1 Fossil Huntress The partitioning of the networks between friendfeed and facebook was a major feature that many people made use of, lacking appropriate controls for who sees what. Merging the two groups of friends isn't going to work, at all.
- Mr. Gunn
It doesn't sound like you understand what has people worried. I wrote this to help: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
Maybe Bruce analysis is too imaginary, but the question is THE question nobody answered: why did you do it, Paul?
- Luca Sofri
I left a response on Bruce's entry (http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...). I'll write more about this on my blog when I get some free time.
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks.
- Bonnie Foster
we all know what needs to happen. the question is, where? ... FB needs, - apart from being/it is, a large, general, open application platform, - 1. Smart keyboard shortkatze - and Im a kbsCzar to go to, 2. Aggregating facilities, smart /RSS/ .. 3. Full blogging facilities, capabilities, not 140 chars. 4. Full real time comments facilities, capabilities. 5. Real time, live, but ALSO...
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- pb:
I hope you're being open and honest with us. This time. :(
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Good to know , we´ll see :)
- Yahya
Thank you! I am sure you will do great things at FB. I just hope that the great app you built here isn't destroyed. I don't know of any other aggregation app that I can embed into my site like this one!
- beersage
Congratulations on your successes, best wishes for more. And thanks for continuing to look out for us loyal, addicted FFanatics!
- Rob Schieber
I hope it continues, i'm a new user and absolutely love it (wish i knew the value of it before)! Congrats!
- Luis D. Santos
and let me add second, obvious, "Facebook needs" - Friendfeed bookmarklet, and Friendfeed tools - widgets, embedding - real time and not - of posts, and groups ...to embedd, to inject oneself into this thing called Internet ..... so, if FB listens to FF engineering long enough, they are going to get it .. right
- pb:
Paul, what I am worried is not that you're brainwashed, but that there's simply no business need for Facebook to improve FriendFeed from now on, period.
- Ihar Mahaniok
I have confidence Paul. While some of the comments were probably uncalled for, covering an investment (of time and money) in these times to move on and hopefully provide even 'better stuff' makes sense to me. It's pretty obvious there are a LOT of people that don't want to 'lose' Friendfeed. (I wouldn't hold a town hall for a few weeks though :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congrats, Paul. It's sad that people have to make these uncalled for hatred comments about Facebook though. Why can't both sites work together. I think Facebook will do better with FF and vise versa. Take the good features of both services. Don't boycott FB, enjoy it. I'm sick of the negative comments going on, that's all. :(
- Mol, FF Music Lover
Because I don't think Paul and the other FF developers would allow FB to do anything. I'm sorry, I am not going to think negative here like some here are. I guess I'm a fangirl for FB.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
Finally something about the changes on the horizon that isn't all d0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0om and whining. Thank you, Paul! :D
- Christian (Simply X)
Paul, what about the content scam that FB T&C is, does it apply to Friendfeed now? Should we all start writing scripts to retroactively delete all content ever uploaded to Friendfeed? Elaborated a bit here - http://friendfeed.com/mbravo...
- Michael Bravo
We know you'll try your best, Paul. But sometimes, you just can't win the dark side...
- Winston Teo
Thanks Paul for all your efforts. Founders often want the best, but acquiring companies often have people with political/power issues or different/limited visions.
- Mitchell Tsai
Yeahhhhhhh BOoooiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!
- The Real sofarsoShawn
yes, thank you, Sergeant Paul ... well, good to hear we go on ... because if not, how about starting www.anotherFeed.com ... or, www.Letsgofeed.com ...... anyway, lets boost blogging capabilities, post more than current amount of chars, lets have TOP POSTS / clicks count list at the head of each group, some stats, lets index group headers, lets have MORE keyboard shortcuts .. - now ......
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- pb:
FriendFeed Blog: FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request 联姻。！！！ - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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太意外了
- Hi-iD
我靠，我还是不适应的说
- Hi-iD
已成定局，我个人也不是很喜欢facebook
- R093r-
晕，被FaceBook吃了？
- Carloe Stamp
唉，可惜了可惜了
- vjay
一会没上网，居然有这么大的新闻..
- K.D.
希望friendfeed能够保持尽可能的独立
- K.D.
可能性不大
- R093r-
不赚钱是过不了boss这一关的，服务新开了那么多，成员却增长缓慢，光投资没效益只有走兼并一条路了
- kelvin
按理说对老板来说FF这种极品淑女开发出来就是等着稍微成熟后被有成就的男人看上的
- kelvin
ff探索盈利的道路的确比twitter要漫长曲折得多，被facebook收购希望能借助fb庞大的用户群打开局面吧，另外，希望ff能促进facebook形成更加开放的结构，当然friendfeed的12员猛将作用更大～
- K.D.
也许FF可能未来会变成facebook的group部分，呵呵
- kelvin
不用说，ff各种很酷的“实时feature”都会在facebook上实现，最终ff淡出..
- K.D.
今天之前，friendfeed可以看做是互联网应用的一次激动人心的“实验”，今天之后，friendfeed就会成为其他人手中的一把“倚天剑”“屠龙刀”，用来杀谁，全在facebook的掌控之中。当然，盈利，这也是将来要考虑的，但已经不是ff要考虑的了：）
- K.D.
自从facebook改版后,就觉得只是另一个twitter... 现在看来要成实时twitter了... 哎 更烂了...
- 麦克.疯
靠，对facebook一直没兴趣，被FB吃了，太失望了。
- 拓 | wavesand
估计ff这次行为是出于投资利益的考虑而非技术性考虑,可以上传mp3并播放流我就觉得有点异常的疯狂,也许就是当时最后的疯狂,facebook还是很不错的,看团体怎么用了
- kelvin
的确很遗憾，可能在美国人们对FB的感觉不一样吧，至少人家还是社交网站第一..
- K.D.
"刚喜欢上的女孩，就要嫁人了 - 陈浩小贤 " 引用：）
- K.D.
呵呵，大家都来讨论一下吧，来宣泄一下心中的情绪：））
- K.D.
既然喜欢的嫁人了，应该考虑找个新的了，不过好像很难找呀 :)
- abe
可能是在给google wave 让路 :)
- R093r-
被FB收购之后，friendfeed会被解封吗？
- K.D.
FB都被墙了 - -！！
- R093r-
被墙+被墙=解封？ ：））） 负负得正～～～哈哈
- K.D.
@K.D. 兄精神接近崩溃了吧 :) 不过貌似英文FFer普遍觉得是好事？中文FFer普遍不喜欢FB
- R093r-
我已经崩溃过一次了，这次还好，呵呵，人在“极端的情境”下有利于打开想象力：）
- K.D.
好像英文FFer普遍都不愿意吧？
- 拓 | wavesand
是否对FF团队来说,核心技术人员会加工资?边缘性重复技术人员会被裁掉?FF团队内有人作出点评价了么?
- kelvin
“边缘性重复技术人员”是谁呢？ff12个人，都是瘦肉，精肉：）
- K.D.
和FB有交叉的
- kelvin
感觉成员是同样在未有预兆下获知消息,呵呵,出于前景未知的迷茫状态
- kelvin
kelvin我也是这么觉得的～要知道做friendfeed这种极难盈利的实验性项目，还能做这么久，的确会很迷茫～要不，ff team怎么那么沉迷于在办公室里开“游戏厅” ：）））
- K.D.
娱乐是Google的继承性使然吧,最后的疯狂投资才是迷茫,我觉得:)
- kelvin
盈利前景不明，有人出offer了自然赶紧脱手。一帮创始人都还年轻，5000万美元（虽然大部分可能是Facebook的股权）可以做很多事，开新公司等等。目前最困扰我的是几乎可以肯定Facebook要把FF拆迁融入到自己的服务中去了，我的游戏流怎么办！
- Ting Liu
转移到 facebook group - -！！ 或者等google wave开张
- R093r-
对group来说,成员也许会增加,所以不一定要那么担忧
- kelvin
grp是什么？
- R093r-
金融危机还有人收购,暗自庆幸吧
- kelvin
感觉ff到不是缺钱，是缺少方向，包括如果扩大，如何盈利等等..
- K.D.
金融危机，恰恰是收购的好时机，很多并购都发生在经济形势不好的时候。
- laogao
投资人和技术人南辕北辙吧
- kelvin
同时觉得FF好像是少个市场出身的管理人员CEO,都是技术出身
- kelvin
的确，没有管理出身的，即使自己搞出来，将来也要找个职业经理人吧
- K.D.
所以投资人并不想花大力气搞市场,就是为了等着卖吧
- kelvin
你这么说也有道理，问题是，“等卖”是一开始做ff就制定好的策略，还是走到现在不得已的选择？
- K.D.
走到技术成熟期培育市场的时候还没有动作,自然是等卖了,上什么音频流文件等等就是为了拉起人气为了合并谈判的价码吧?明知道这东西投资大,人多了根本不能供得起
- kelvin
觉得这次不像是投资人套现，几千万的收购价对于互联网公司来说不值一提。记得前段还看到新闻说ff拒绝了投资，因为他们不缺钱，我觉得ff是急于扩大用户群。
- abe
缺不缺钱要看到底是合并还是成为一部分?
- kelvin
拒绝投资是老板不想多来一个人参股吧
- kelvin
并入fb以后不算扩大用户群吧？难道他们还准备再跳出来？
- R093r-
我倒是觉得，这帮人，有一个好的idea，然后把它变成了现实，既是工作，也是玩，经济上也得到了回报，这就是很大的成功了。收购对他们来说，是个重新选择的机会：1- 在Facebook的大平台下施展自己的才华，不论是技术还是别的；2- 玩够了，继续找其他好玩的idea，把它做起来；3- 其他。其实说白了，对做技术的人来说，市场和CEO这样的职位、事务，到底有多大的吸引力？
- laogao
对我们用户来说，我觉得并不是一件好事
- 自然
就钱来说,当然可以说他们成功了,这世界有些机会只能玩一次,没玩到心中的理想状态就被投资者的利益强奸了也难说成就感,当然不是完全指ff,并不是让技术人员要去做CEO,是他们应该考虑请CEO如果想扩展
- kelvin
“对我们用户来说，我觉得并不是一件好事 - 自然”，尤其是ff，twitter这种用户贡献内容+营销占极大成分的互联网应用，创始团队当然可以决定卖和不卖，但是这种决定有可能会让用户觉得被“出卖”的感觉～
- K.D.
创业是有趣的，守业未必那么有趣。
- laogao
唉。。。所以还是要用大公司的产品啊。。小公司随时会被收购。。。
- kang
都快40岁的人了,守业才是现实啦
- kelvin
所以我不是很同意简单的把成功归结于"钱"字。开开心心的做事，这点很重要。对这帮人来说，找个地方"养老"，算不得什么难事。
- laogao
laogao,到底创业有趣还是养老有趣?
- kelvin
开开心心做事也是要按照自己的思路做事才是开心的,这次合并是FF团队的愿望?现在还内部没人发表庆祝吧?
- kelvin
看看后面ana会不会在她相册里又有到香槟的开心合照吧?如果有也许你是对的,laogao :)
- kelvin
我的意思是说，对这帮人而言，完全可以有更加轻松的"守业"的方法，"养老"也好，重新创业也好，都可以很开心，对老美来说，40岁真的不算什么。至于开开心心做事这一条，如果收购完了，你的价值观和新东家合拍，这个就是你新的机会，继续开开心心做事；如果不合拍，就离开寻找别的有意思的项目把它做起来，也是新的机会。
- laogao
这个行业越来越成熟,做领头羊的机会会越来越少,做技术领先者的成就感会越来越低,除了养老不会有那么多开心的了,除了核心技术人员可以这么说其他人就寄人篱下吧
- kelvin
另外老美40岁中年危机的人多得很啊,而且IT这行业国外20岁年轻人真的可以把40左右的人逼死在沙滩上,所以机会也许就这么一次
- kelvin
谁说重新创业一定要继续做"这个行业"呢，呵呵。路是人走出来的。被别人逼死这样的事，我觉得最大的压力在市场和管理这个层面，通常属于"守业"，做技术的，不一定需要和愿意掺和吧。再说，把一个东西做到No.1然后一直几十年都是No.1，未必是所有人的目标，所以机会不机会的，仁者见仁智者见智了。
- laogao
我正想劝说他们到中国来养猪
- kelvin
上面我说的更多是个人，那么对于FF团队整体呢？那就必然牵扯到市场、推广、资本管理这样的事情。FF做到现在，有一定规模了，但还不是No.1，有点平台期的意思，就像你说的，不知道哪天，出来个什么妖怪，直接秒杀Twitter、FF、FB，那FF的团队不是更窝心，不如早点有个了断，然后大家该干什么干什么。我内心感觉他们现在应该就是这个心态了。
- laogao
Paul 会对 Mark 说 “不要作恶” 吗？
- Lin Yong
看了一遍中文评论，看了一遍英文评论。大概两个意思：1恭喜FF团队；2悲伤，很多FF用户不大喜欢facebook，说不定会离开。我个人在facebook上基本就是个静态用户，由于恐惧隐私的过分暴露，所以只把facebook当在线通信录用；而在friendfeed上，似乎没有人担心隐私的问题，就像在一个茶馆里，大家关心的是讨论的话题，而不是参与讨论的人是不是我认识的人，是不是我的“朋友”。提个问题，Friendfeed和Facebook最根本的不同是什么？我的答案，fb的核心是个人，而ff的核心则是群组/话题。希望FF保持自己的核心，一路走好。
- woodear
FF上一次改版，就把核心变为个人了，UI 上都更体现个人，这还曾招到一些重点用户的声讨。 FF 进入 FB，发布的功能会被增强，实时搜索则会整合到FB中，而聚合，则会变成一个鸡肋，或者替换掉现在 FB 中的聚合功能。 我相信 FF 作为一个独立服务会继续保持很长一段时间，但其大部分功能，会被 FB 整合。
- Lin Yong
FB学FF不要紧。只要FF不要学FB就好。：D
- woodear
有不详预感。
- ashbee
不喜欢facebook
- jiang-design
facebook和校内一样没有营养
- Titan Ning
严重同意楼上的。我女友花很多时间在校内看八卦。。。
- iabb32
PDF Download: Super Secret "How to Guide" for FriendFeed, prior to the real-time push. Who wants me to update this?
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And if I take the time to update this for the current site, should the eBook be free? $2? $5? You tell me.
- Louis Gray
you mean this is out of date already?
- Lindy Asimus
It was out of date immediately. But if there is interest from the community and others, I can bring it up to date. (There are many pieces which still are valid, but FriendFeed innovates quickly)
- Louis Gray
I do. On first glance, in its current form, it looks exactly like what could actually be the catalyst for me to actually use FriendFeed. Updated, would probably seal the deal.... Now I just need to find the time to read it thoroughly. Hmmm...
- Joel Strellner
I notice a lot of people I know on Twitter and other networks not yet on Friendfeed. This is a very handy document. Update would be very good.
- Lindy Asimus
Twitter is getting so popular in these day but i think most people dunno about the advantages of friendfeed. For me it's Twitter 2.0 and i think you would help a lot of users with it. I also believe in the power of free, even though i would definitely pay for it. Like Joel Strellner said, seal the deal and make more people understand friendfeed.
- Sascha Pallenberg
FF is powerful, major adoption is yet to come!
- Jonathan Fleming
Louis: looks like a really valuable FF guide, well worth a small fee (like an iphone app), say $1.99
- Geer
great piece of work Life's Good with Louis Gray
- Thomas Power
This is great! I'll pay $5 for the updated version, but you might be able to sell twice as much copies by making it $2.
- Masatake E. Hori
awesome !
- kazuhiko
Masatake E. Hori - Twice as many sales at $2, or half the sales at $5; I vote for half as many sales at $5, He'd make more money for less hassle. ;-)
- Joel Strellner
50% price cut would probably result in a lot higher sales than twice as many. Check out Jeff Atwood's blog article about price points. http://www.codinghorror.com/blog... - "50% sale = 320% increase in sales"
- travispuk
There is still going to be a certain portion of purchases from the current FF community, even if it is just to show support for this type of work and Louis. Same reason why FF'ers purchase FF t-shirts etc.
- travispuk
thanks ! But 62 pages of how to just show that FF is not enough #easysimple
- Jacopo Gio
Thanks, this helps. Just coming out of the sitting up stage, making some tentative attempts at crawling: As a new user, I would not have read this if I had been asked for hard payment. In the economy of social media don't you 'pay' with the wisdom-value of your comments and by allowing yourself to be a number on a friend-list?
- Sally Relton Shakespeare
Think of an affiliate plan so that current users can make it available to those not using FF already? Some may be teaching social media to non-onliners.
- Lindy Asimus
Louis - Great job. I'm a huge FF fan and still am finding some very cool tips on how to utilize it. Thanks!
- John: @johnhaydon
I was going to ask when you were going to release this. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Sounds cool. If your trying to get people to adopt and see how cool FF is then it should be free.
- Dusty Edenfield
from iPod
Well ... there goes another book I don't have to finish :) It's a start Louis and much needed.
- Charlie Anzman
Wow, great stuff. I didn't know if its existence before. Rather than updating this all by yourself, wouldn't it be better to turn this into a community-maintained wiki?
- Meryn Stol
What Greer said.
- Josh Haley
Louis: its a very good source thanks. Do you think it makes sense to make this guide like a FriendFeed Wiki so anyone can contribute and changes adopted easily ? Or its not worth it ?
- Jacque
Quick comments: I worked on this at the beginning of the year and would have issued it much earlier, had the planned site revamp not been coming. Part of the reason for its length is that I wanted to be comprehensive, I tend to write a lot, and I included tons of screenshots. Also - the intended audience is not necessarily us, but those who know of FriendFeed, but need a boost.
- Louis Gray
Guidance I received while making this earlier this year was to not give it away for free, and I understand the opportunity for some premium content. As this is antiquated, there is no harm in having it out there for free, but I would make the next one very inexpensive so it gets in the most hands as possible. (Based on this response, I think you guys see value in revamping?)
- Louis Gray
Jacque, if anybody else wants to start a how-to Wiki for FriendFeed, that's great, but I still think you need resource guides that are easily consumable.
- Louis Gray
Louis, first off, I love the drewscancer shirt. Second I think you should update it. I wouldn't charge more than $5 but you could also ask for donations. Just an idea. Great book though.
- Seth Goldstein
I would not buy it but I would download this one and read comments on the new one 8)
- Ru Viljoen
Yes Louis we do need a much more detailed version even though this edition is excellent. If FF is Twitter 2.0 which I agree it is then few people (100k max worldwide) have even realised this yet. Linkedin and Facebook are fading away into general background noise like Yellow Pages. You know it's there but so what.
- Thomas Power
Only half way through it and already found some very useful tips.
- Silver Hage
DEFINITELY YES! I would buy it! I have been on FF awhile and I still am not using it productively - same with LazyFeed- I love both of them but forget them. I have a Seesmic Desktop App - can we talk Loic into adding FF to it? that way it is in my face!
- Robyn Hawk
I now understand how to use the hide functionality better thx.
- Ru Viljoen
I was wondering about this project, Louis :) I think there is value in updating it some and offering it at a very reasonable cost for those who plan a foray into FF - haven't seen much else out there in way of explaining the tool, etc.
- Valeria Maltoni
Are you trying to prove Scoble's point? Why does FriendFeed need a 61 page manual?! :P
- Tim Hoeck
This could be done in 6 pages. But it can be done better, with screenshots, in 60.
- Louis Gray
Make sure Scoble is happy with the UI instructions. :)
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
I would pay $20 if profits went to #blamedrewscancer
- Liza + = ?
Roberto, I am not too concerned about Scoble being frustrated today. He is making a point and FriendFeed has a good track record of listening. They have an interesting issue where their product has many different functionalities in a world when people are used to not having choices.
- Louis Gray
Robert also knows that by complaining, it gives naysayers a good reason or excuse for why they are not here. It's not an issue with PR but picking your battles and stage.
- Louis Gray
Fantastic. There are tons of hidden gems in Friendfeed that most people don't know about. If they did, they'd be hooked for life. I do like Meryn's suggestion to make a wiki type section like this.
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
Louis - why not a video - better than a PDF.
- Liza + = ?
I was considering writing my own book, very complete & thorough, taking people from total newbie to power user, and including enough info that even current power users might get something from it. I had also planned on releasing it for free, CC-BY-NC-SA
- April
I'd prefer it in html.
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Louis - Think book (you read that right) targeting NEW users if you wish to profit from this (with free online updates as things change). Most people still won't pay for an e-book .... and there's still plenty of (smart) people roaming Borders, B&N etc (and the online book stores, not exclusive of Amazon). That was my target, just got real busy here with other stuff.
- Charlie Anzman
Great work! I have sent a small payment via PayPal. Please inform when you are ready with the updated version and I will send you some more money. All the Best, Martin.
- Martin Lindeskog
Inspiration: 35 lovely workspaces - FrancescoMugnai.com - http://blogof.francescomugnai.com/2009...
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çok güzel duruyorlar valla
- Göksel Şirin
Mac işte.. nereye koysan güzel duruyor (:
- Batu
Wish I had a work space this cool
- Steve Sill
Numan Çebi to Numan's feed, Design (Tasarım), Cool!, Desk & Desktop, All Things Apple, The Apple Room: TNW Apple, Funny Pics and Videos, Web & Teknoloji
60 sticker-plastered Apple laptops - FrancescoMugnai.com - http://blogof.francescomugnai.com/2009...
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Ten Great Mac Apps for College Students http://nullagenda.com/ten-gre...
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Cool list, but only 20 or 30% of the applications are really college specific. How is Tweetie an "app for college students"?
- Rubin Sfadj
Google Reader looks more like FriendFeed day by day. You can now see your liked items.
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(Click "Shared Items" or "Your Stuff" to see the above screen)
- Ahsan Ali
Jon, I'm guessing it's the difference between sharing something on your own feed (as we re-share on FF) and liking it on someone else's feed (as on FF). However, at the moment Google Reader's Like doesn't have much purpose... something I'm hoping Google will address.
- Ahsan Ali
That's very interesting, but a major difference from FF is that GR doesn't have the ability to share new stuff from a bookmarklet, e-mail and such.
- Uche Ogbuji
Uche, actually, GR does have a bookmarklet: the inappropriately named "Note in Reader" :) With the addition of PubSubHubbub support today, I think Google Reader is on the right path.
- Ahsan Ali
OK, so that's even more interesting. Thanks.
- Uche Ogbuji
Enjoying NetNewsWire's integration with Google Reader - http://nnwbeta.com/2009...
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It was the summer of '92. I got my first real C compiler - bought it at the ham fest.
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And as I recall, those were low-density 5.25" floppies.
- Paul Buchheit
2.0?
- Gabe
Yup, 2.0. It was all downhill from there. For some reason that's still the fastest C compiler I've ever used, even though it was running on a 25 MHz 386.
- Paul Buchheit
It cost $11
- Paul Buchheit
from iPhone
Wow this is close to when I got Turbo C++ 1.0, maybe? ~1992.
- Michael Herf
In 1989 I was entrusted with the first Mac-port of MicroEmacs 3.9e source code (compiled with Aztec C) by a guy who just got hired by Microsoft, and later rose to become one of their division managers (Hi Earle!). It fit on a floppy, but was a dog to download at 1200 baud.
- ianf ⌘
Paul, do you ever throw stuff away? :-)
- Todd Hoff
I have the very same disks. I was recently reminiscing about them and my inability to throw away tech detritus on SuperUser (http://superuser.com/questio...).
- Tom Horn
Turbo C 2.0 was pretty much the pinnacle of C compiler speed. Everything from then on was slower because they keep on adding features. The whole Turbo C is probably smaller than a typical C++ STL Hello World program.
- Gabe
Did ya play it till your fingers bled? :)
- Patrick Jordan
It was `95 for me, my friend gave me Borland C++ 5.5 and the "Problem Solving and Abstraction in C++" book
- Cornelius Toole
which hamfest?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I bought Modula-2 for the Amiga in the late 80's and had no clue what I was doing.
- Rodfather
I had a somewhat irrational dislike of C back then. So I did Pascal.
- Wirehead
I stuck with BASIC variations forever... GFA Basic, AmigaBASIC, STOS, AMOS... until I bought a "Learn C Programming" book around '92. That put me off code entirely. :D
- Roger Benningfield
I remember the Turbo C debugger was the first proper IDE I used. That DOS GUI create watches on variables blew my mind. My first departure from printf debugging.
- Tom Horn
Borland may not have invented the IDE, but as far as I'm concerned they perfected it.
- Gabe
Wow, Turbo Assembler, C++ Framework!! Somewhere I've both on the original Borland box :-)
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
I had the same, might still have them tucked somewhere...
- Amit Morson
Is Paul a Ham too? .... AKA WA2AAB ->
- Charlie Anzman
turbo c is the king :)
- Vehbi Emiroglu
KA0GQI. I never made it past Technician.
- DGentry
Ah, good old Turbo C (Turbo Pascal was good too). I'd have to disagree slightly that it was all downhill after 2.0 -- I thought it was a great product up through 3.1. But they took a serious nosedive in the 4.x period, with the switch to Windows. After that it was all Watcom for me, at least for DOS/Windows games. The tools were ugly, but they worked really well.
- Joel Webber
nice!
- (jeff)isageek
If I recall, those are writable, too. There's tape over the edge.
- Jesse Stay
And KC5PZP here - I'm General class, passed 13wpm back when it was required
- Jesse Stay
haha hamfest! i used to get software there all the time when i went with my dad! (he's a HAM)
- andy brudtkuhl
1995 National Field Day winners here :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - Wondering if one geekdom goes with the other. Passed General class back when you had to appear in person in the NYC Fed Bldg. I was 11 .... Big guy with a cigar watched if you were cheating :) Memories. Baskind ... Why am I not surprised. Think we were separated at birth or something ... what's next??
- Charlie Anzman
I was the Rochester, NY hamfest. I was never a ham though -- we just went for the tech flea market. I always loved overhearing conversations where people referred to each other by their call sign (e.g. "I just had lunch with WA2AAB and KA0GQI"). I guess it was kind of like Twitter ;)
- Paul Buchheit
i remember turbo C. What is wrong with me.
- anna sauce
Were you part of the old RTI/Apache clique?
- anna sauce
I paid much more for ordering Turbo C 1.0 - but it was so exciting to use a real programming language.
- Oliver Bouchard
Those were good days and investment as well.
- James Stratford
'92? seriously? I was at high school running a pirate ftp site out of my dorm room (ethernet baby!) ME and a buddy were hacking up our own version of dikumud running on the schools sun "server". I don't know when I got my first C compiler, but it must have been < 1990. I remember it came on a disk in a "Teach yourself C" book. Good times.
- Joe Beda
Joe, this was my "first real C compiler" because I first tried to learn C by downloading some freeware C compiler from a FidoNet BBS along with a "learn C" text file (I was very cheap). The problem is that the compiler was not complete, so half the things in the "learn C" text file didn't compile. C was my first language (I never did Basic or any of that), so I was also learning to program, not just learning C. Needless to say, it was difficult.
- Paul Buchheit
I approve of this thread.
- Ted Roden
My first C compiler was in a class at a community college around 1989. We used Mix C, which seems to still exist: http://www.mixsoftware.com/product...
- Gabe
Paul, exactly - Ham Radio was the original "microblogging" network. Not only were we required to keep our messages short, we couldn't use a real alphabet. Imagine if Twitter were all Morse Code. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Hams!!!!! Funny, I just saw this and earlier today I posted a pic of my dad with his gear. http://ff.im/5CH8z He (and many others) is disappointed that learning morse code is no longer required.
- Katy S
BTW Paul: those aren't low-density floppies. If those are 360k, they are double-density floppies. Regular low-density floppies held either 160k or 180k depending on whether they were 8 or 9 sectors per track.
- Gabe
13 years late to the party (1969), I started using C in 1982. Started with Fortran, 6502 machine language (e.g. assembly language without the compiler), Basic, Cobol. Most of my "coding" is in Excel & HTML these days.
- Mitchell Tsai
I had those 'Turbo-C' compiler 5.25" floppies too, Paul! Aw.. souvenirs..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Yes, Turbo-C rocked! Turbo-C++ too. And Turbo-Pascal was a revelation! (at least for me: changed my life ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
I used Turbo Pascal. My first C compiler was THINK C (on the Macintosh).
- DGentry
It'll be funny if this 2009 thread bounces to the top ... Just did a search for my own call sign to be sure it was current .... Paul ... I remember the Rochester Hamfest well .... but I don't remember doing lunch? :)
- Charlie Anzman
Karen and I decided sharing a desk drove both of us crazy... Pic of my new desk is below. No paper, no inbox, and small enough to discourage accumulation of stuff. Perfect :)
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Do you use Synergy (http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/) to share the mouse/keyboard?
- Vlado Handziski
I give it 2 weeks and you'll have papers and crap piled next to it :P
- Johnny
This just means the piling is going to be oriented vertically.
- The Fat Oracle
I stopped accumulating much stuff on my desk long ago. If anything sits there too long, I eventually get sick of looking at it and throw it away (or recycle, as appropriate). My next goal is to stop accumulating crap on my machine as well, so I could drop it into a vat of acid, get a new one, and be back up and running within a day or so :)
- Joel Webber
No, I just use the Linux box, and my laptop is just there for iTunes (which is streaming to our stereo with an AiPort Express and AirTunes)
- Bret Taylor
I see. I have a similar setup, with windows 7 on a Thinkpad and share my keyboard/mouse with Synergy and it works really nice.
- Vlado Handziski
QuickSynergy to be precise (on a Fedora 11 box): http://code.google.com/p...
- Vlado Handziski
No, I personally hate armrests for my desk chairs - I always put them all the way down in my desk chairs at work.
- Bret Taylor
OMG yeah totally embarrassed of my slobbbery now, but uh...neat freak..just a bit? :)
- The Real sofarsoShawn
wonderfull :)
- Nesimi
+1 for Linux on the desktop
- Jesse Stay
Looks good , my was that way for about a minute one time
- Kim Landwehr
I remember when I could see my desk.
- The Real sofarsoShawn
have you seen this blog? can-lit cool.., http://desk-space.blogspot.com/
- Brent
Looks good, clean desk
- Nimaa
i need ability to "add a reminder" to FF posts so that i can remind myself to ask for a pic in 2 weeks of this clean desk
- kartik vaithyanathan
Congrats, Bret! Hope you can maintain the pristine condition for awhile! I haven't seen the top of my desk in years.
- Anne Bouey
Bret, I choosed a small desk too, but.. it didn't discourage accumulation of stuff ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
LOL ... there is uncovered desk space therefore stuff will accumulate. Murphy's Law.
- Lida Verner
Microsoft keyboard and mouse?
- deerstep
Did the exact same thing here (slightly bigger). Keep a cool trash can right there. Amazing what goes away!
- Charlie Anzman
Ahhh nice simple design, refreshingly minimalist :)
- Susan Beebe
looking good
- (jeff)isageek
No that wants to stay married should ever share a desk. Even my mom and dad, in their 80's, each had their own desk and computer. Looks good, Bret!
- Sheila Taylor
I like the nice simple set up.Unfortunately I think you might regret it as your legs will fall asleep often with your wife sitting on your lap. You might think about getting her a stool for the corner by the light.
- Brady
Everything looks nice at first but the question is for how long? ;)
- Ashish
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