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Disclosure can be a real gray area from time to time...especially one who works in social media. Now how does this affect credibility?
Well that makes sense. Definitely saw that post and probably even bookmarked it on Delicious. But the concern in this case is that there's a product that I like (and definitely need to disclose). However, in me promoting it on a social network leads to me wondering if people will question my motives and ignore it because they'll think it's not genuine enough - which in my case it will be. - Kenneth
Do I have any motivation to even Digg something, add it on StumbleUpon, or any other related action or are agencies/clients subject to the Wikipedia mentality that independent third-parties are allowed to plug/promote? - Kenneth
Omg Kenny! You're on FriendFeed! :) - Mona Nomura
Of course I'm on FriendFeed...but only rarely am I here. Just want to make sure that I'm covering all my social networking basis... - Kenneth
I love FriendFeed - easier to converse than Twitter :) How come we've never crossed paths before up in hrrrrrrrrrr? - Mona Nomura
Well yes, FriendFeed does have that advantage, but isn't that also easy to do in Facebook? - Kenneth
I would have never seen your thoughts/this conversation on FB :) - Micah Wittman
Mr. Yeung, FriendFeed is the best commenting and collaboration social networking tool in the world. Facebook is the most popular social networking tool in the world. Don't get the two confused. - Louis Gray
For me, it's easier on FriendFeed - plus, FF is how I got addicted to social media! - Mona Nomura
Mona is why I got addicted to social media. #lies - Louis Gray
@Micah - granted...but I think the reason why I so rarely used FriendFeed is because I loved using Twitter. If FriendFeed became a Twitter client where it imported ALL my followers on Twitter into FriendFeed so I could see it all on this stream, then that would work. But then again, the 140 character limit really botches things up. Or maybe I'm just not making much sense? - Kenneth
Kenneth, we welcome you, despite your love of inferior tools. - Louis Gray
Ya, like how Joanna got married and pregnant hahahahha - Mona Nomura
Louis and Mona on FF are why I put up with the dark side of social media (which is pegged at about 95%). - Micah Wittman
What dark side of social media? You're following the wrong people! What a negative outlook. 95%? I love 95% on FriendFeed. - Louis Gray
Mr. Gray - well if FriendFeed is to social collaboration as Facebook is to social networking, then let's hope that the merging of the two will lead to BETTER social collaboration & networking. Maybe people on Facebook will be more prone to actually having conversations now? - Kenneth
Louis - and I'm so thankful that you're so *tolerant* of my usage of "inferior tools"...alas I'm comfortable in my usage of these primitive weapons. - Kenneth
They may. I believe FriendFeed has the potential to be the best thing that ever happened to Facebook. And as for our good friends at Twitter, how easily could you have this conversation? - Louis Gray
Sorry, that was badly put. The dumping ground that impersonal marketers make of social media in general (95% was made up on the spot :) Friendfeed allows me to avoid almost all of of that noise. - Micah Wittman
I cut back on the amount of interaction on Facebook since my real life friends get overwhelmed - almost half of my friends unfriended me because my profile has wayyyyyy too much activity (I don't blame them) - Mona Nomura
The conversations just flow. It's like speaking your native language again, after being trapped in a foreign country where you had to use multi-lingual dictionaries. Let it flow like the wind and water. :) - Louis Gray
Louis - I think I could have this convo quite easily seeing that the POINT of the convo was not about FriendFeed v Facebook - instead, it was about disclosure and credibility. But whatever... - Kenneth
@Mona, I am pretty sure my best friends from high school and mom have hidden my updates. - Louis Gray
@Ken, disclosure rules from the FTC are not caught up to the current world, period. I wrote about that too. :) http://blog.louisgray.com/2009... - Louis Gray
Mona - I think the reason why people may think you have way too much activity is because you probably associate Facebook with your tweets. That in of itself could be overwhelming... - Kenneth
What if I bookmark client coverage on Delicious and it goes to Twitter and Facebook? Should I disclose that? - Louis Gray
Another REAL example... A company sent me a brand new iPod Touch with their app embedded. But in the time it took to get to me, their app launched, and it was too late to write. On five occasions, I asked them to give me a return address or way to return the iPod Touch. Nothing. So I wiped it and gave it to the kids, but never covered their app. What disclosure is there then? - Louis Gray
Uhhh clearly you don't look at my Facebook. BUSTED. - Mona Nomura
@louis - that's my question...I wanted to comment on a post that I digg'ed, but didn't know whether I should "disclose" my enthusiasm for what was blogged about. If I commented & disclosed, do people care more about my comment or focus on my disclosure and assume ulterior motive? - Kenneth
I saw your Digg of the Gunman app for the iPhone. I say let it be. I AM ON TO YOU. :) - Louis Gray
@mona - of course I don't look at your Facebook...unless you have a photo or a birthday, I'm not going to look at your page. :) - Kenneth
Then you're nuts, Ken. Mona's photos are the best in all of Facebook. Her photos are why I joined Facebook in the first place. #lies - Louis Gray
@louis - you saw my digg, but you didn't see the comment that I wanted to leave - hence my cause for concern. - Kenneth
@louis - you're really sucking up to Mona tonight. What's up with that?? - Kenneth
I say don't be concerned. The FTC has got bigger fish to fry and the current rules are a mess. Disclose wherever you can that you believe makes sense. - Louis Gray
Ken, I always suck up to Mona. She is my social networking soulmate. - Louis Gray
@louis / @mona go get a FriendFeed room. :) #roffles - Kenneth
LG always boosts my ego on FriendFeed - that's why I continue coming back ;) You didn't know that me and LG go wayyyyyyyyyyyy back? WAY before any of ya'll! He's my soc med bff. - Mona Nomura
Kenneth, they should - but there are too many rooms to choose from that would fit this scenario ;) - Micah Wittman
Oye...I'm sensing this thread is leading to no-good trouble-making...my innocent eyes & ears can't bear to read this... - Kenneth
K. - I'm glad you disclosed that =) - Micah Wittman
AND because of me and LG, this thread is probably the most commented FriendFeed post in your entire feed ;) You're welcome! *curtsies* - Mona Nomura
/leaves this thread for secret private room. - Louis Gray
/kenny's not invited ;) - Mona Nomura
The only disclosures I personally attend to is when I mention one of my websites in a comment or knowledge-base-like post. I just add: "Blah blah blah (discloure: I'm the creator of this free service) blah blah ..." - Micah Wittman
But if someone's organization wants to send me free gadgets, gizmos or galvanized buckets, I'll gladly disclose about it right here :) - Micah Wittman
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Why Does This Copy Just Irk Me? - http://kenyeung.posterous.com/why-doe...
Why Does This Copy Just Irk Me?
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I Can Haz This Nice Lens?? - http://kenyeung.posterous.com/i-can-h...
Seen at Stanford right in front of me at the UH volleyball match...this lens is definitely sicks. Too bad it'll cost me some serious cash. ... - Kenneth
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Why Does This Copy Just Irk Me? - http://kenyeung.posterous.com/why-doe...
I'm at Stanford and I'm seeing this billboard...now look at the sign and does this bother anyone? For some reason it's not really compelling enough for me to follow through. It's layman's speak but w ... - Kenneth
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Re: We’ve Been Acquired! - http://www.socialtimes.com/2009...
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Re: 2009 PR People Awards: PR Blogger of the Year - http://www.briansolis.com/2009...
"That's great news! Congratulations on your award...well deserved!" - Kenneth
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Live from Investor Outlook 2010 - http://kenyeung.posterous.com/live-fr...
Sitting here at the Investor Outlook 2010 meeting hosted by Dealmaker Media - hashtag: #DMM Hosted by Manatt, Phelps and Phillips, LLP Moderated by Craig Miller, Manatt (CM) Panelists: - Jeff Clavi ... - Kenneth
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Live from Investor Outlook 2010 - http://kenyeung.posterous.com/live-fr...
Sitting here at the Investor Outlook 2010 meeting hosted by Dealmaker Media - hashtag: #DMM Hosted by Manatt, Phelps and Phillips, LLP Moderated by Craig Miller, Manatt (CM) Panelists: - Jeff Clavi ... - Kenneth
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Re: Finding Your Influence Is Just A Placebo. Edelman May Be Harvesting Your Data. - http://blog.thelettertwo.com/2009...
"Hi Jonny, I think you've answered my question...I was definitely wondering what "benefit" Edelman gets out of putting together a service like this besides it giving people an idea of what their influence is - although I believe that any value from this is merely a placebo. But in response to that, your second point is probably the most valuable - that you can use the user inputted data to "identify specialist influencers in niche communities". So it seems that Edelman is not always interested in reaching out to the mega stars when pitching or running a campaign. Instead, it's more about being targeted and finding the right "true" influencers?" - Kenneth
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Re: Finding Your Influence Is Just A Placebo. Edelman May Be Harvesting Your Data. - http://blog.thelettertwo.com/2009...
"Hi Jonny - Thanks for your comments and feedback. I would like to clarify that when I said "harvest", I meant it in no malicious way like spamming or anything like that. I was alluding to the fact that while people were filling out this data, could Edelman or anyone else creating a service like TweetLevel be perhaps aggregating this data to help better service potential customers. I'm happy to hear that this tool was created to engage with the Twittersphere, but what, may I ask, is the reward for you creating this tool so people can figure out their influence? I'm very curious as to the meaning behind the service which I think is a pretty interesting tool." - Kenneth
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Re: Finding Your Influence Is Just A Placebo. Edelman May Be Harvesting Your Data. - http://blog.thelettertwo.com/2009...
"Oh, I'd love to hear more about whether you think that the grade itself has any meaning/value. I don't think it matters whether people would want to know their grade because no matter what, from a inherent standpoint, we're all eager to find some way to valuate our activities. I'm always wondering what my "influence" is and I've gone to TweetLevel and also Twitter Grader to find out - and from a personal standpoint, I'm always eager to find out how to improve it, but I do know that these numbers don't mean much... Or do they have meaning? Should we get caught up on the fact that I have a 99.9 grade on Tweet Grader while folks like Brian Solis has a 99.99? I'm also definitely interested in hearing more about how you're using this data to help your customers - not from a "tell me your trade secret" type standard, but what types of things are you using from Tweet Grader to help your clients?" - Kenneth
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Re: Finding Your Influence Is Just A Placebo. Edelman May Be Harvesting Your Data. - http://blog.thelettertwo.com/2009...
"Hi Dharmesh, Thank you for your comments. I think you really make some good points yourself. However, I would like to challenge you on the fact that you said that you believe some of these tools, although imperfect, bring value to some people. If you're thinking end users like myself who have been to those sites to ascertain our value, then I would tend to disagree. BUT, if you're saying that the only people who gain value are the developers and companies of the software, then I think you're right. I get how you say that you wanted to get a better sense of what the influence of people were for those following you, but I'm not sure if people truly understand the algorithm. Do you believe that this is something that could be confusing? Just because some of the people whom I follow are deemed Twitter "elite", does that make them any more influential than other people I follow - just because they have a higher "grade"? I think this is a trick question and I don't know the answer myself -..." - Kenneth
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Re: Finding Your Influence Is Just A Placebo. Edelman May Be Harvesting Your Data. - http://blog.thelettertwo.com/2009...
"Thanks for your perspective on the whole matter. I think that this has been an interesting discussion from what I originally wanted to call out. Definitely wasn't about the API or selling of data per se, but rather on how all the services created by these companies wasn't really going to provide the end user (the Twitter population) much information than a number that is wide open to interpretation. As for InfoChimps, definitely it would seem that Twitter would probably go after the big fish like Google or Microsoft than allow a contract with InfoChimps to go through. I think that there may be a potential for that, but again, if it involves harvesting my data via API or whatever is public and then selling that to another company for exploitation, then I think that just equals how people buy lists to target using emails but just more in the social media sense. Would love to get Eric's thought on the whole discussion here. I must admit that it's taken the whole conversation to another..." - Kenneth
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Why Posterous Works But Doesn't Work. - http://kenyeung.posterous.com/why-pos...
I don't know what my frustration with using Posterous is but it's there. I love how it's being used as a means for me to jot down my thoughts - often done easily through my Blackberry, but it's the UI ... - Kenneth
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Re: Finding Your Influence Is Just A Placebo. Edelman May Be Harvesting Your Data. - http://blog.thelettertwo.com/2009...
"Hi Ed - Thanks for your very thorough comments. Definitely enjoyed reading them. I think that you're right...there are dozens of these Twitter ranking tools out there and I didn't mean to exclude any, if that was your point. I just thought that since Edelman created this system, it was similar to another large marketing firm making another, which is where I got Hubspot's Twitter Grader. Definitely the open API system and whatever public data is out there is where you can gather data, but while you do gather it, how much is relevant to the user? If you have people interact and they "self-populate" your database through a game methodology like with TweetLevel, doesn't that give you a better sense of those who are (1) interested in learning their influence, (2) avid or habitual users of Twitter, (3) are social media type individuals/personas? As for InfoChimps collecting AND selling Twitter data, I'm unfortunately up to speed on that debate, but just know that I think that selling data..." - Kenneth
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Re: Uber10 Giveaway: HP Envy Beat laptop with an Intel Core i7 - http://www.ubergizmo.com/15...
"w00t! Oh, I need the laptop...please send it to me!! :) http://www.facebook.com/kenyeun..." - Kenneth
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Re: Introducing My Own "Stealth" Startup: Paladin Advisors Group - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
"Outstanding news! Congratulations & good luck in this new awesome job!" - Kenneth
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Looking at Sequoia the eagle at @sfzoo #wingslap
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Thanks to @sfzoo for giving us a behind-the-scene look at the aviary...and for seeing this beautiful eagle. ... - Kenneth
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Ever since I got this awesome job at Stage Two Consulting, I've been thinking about all the cool ways to be a better "social media strategist". There's so much technology that's being spread around - ... - Kenneth
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Would love to pretend this was all me but really it was all @jayzombie
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Foursquare lets you take photos now? - Michelle McCormack
michelle - only of yourself when you look like the mascot on halloween (ha ha no, that's just my mad photoshop skillz) - MG Siegler
Awesome!! - Andrew
this costume crashes too much - sean percival
This is an awesome photo! I wonder...eerie that they look way too similar. LOL! - Kenneth
thanks kenneth took a few poses to get it just right - MG Siegler
dear lord. that's really good. - Andy Brett
Nice!!! - Garin Kilpatrick
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Re: A loss for words. - http://learntoduck.com/micah...
"Micah - I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. Deepest condolences. Thank you for making me think about my own grandmother and the memories." - Kenneth
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