Bugs come back in the summer ... gotta watch out! - Nick O'Neill
@Allen, by the time you wake up, you've already digested it. ;-) - AJ Batac
in la jolla in the summer we had huge ones that hung from trees. don't miss that. - MG Siegler
as i said on twitter, mg, you're killing your allies against the bugs that are no doubt also in your apartment. - Eric Eldon
that's it, i'm bleaching my entire apartment. - MG Siegler
I'll kill them for you! My arachnophobia was cured when I went to the Philippines! - Mona N
I'd take spiders over Hawaii centipedes any day. Those things, usually 6+ inches long, crawl into your bed while you're sleeping and will bite you repeatedly. It's like somebody hit you with a baseball bat. - Scott Wamsley
Then there is probably several dozen that you haven't seen, yet. :) - Grant Bierman
just let one bite you, and then star in Spiderman IV. - Jason Kaneshiro
@jason - that'll conflict with my starring role in x-men 4 though... - MG Siegler
I don't live with you but, shit - that worries *ME* - l0ckergn0me
yea, those two you killed probably recently had hundreds of babies. And they all want revenge now. - Scott Wamsley
@scott - that is probably my ultimate fear. once when i was younger i found a spider nest thing and it burst open with a gazillion baby spiders. ugh i think i'm gonna pass out. - MG Siegler
@MG, when you said spiders, you meant Googlebot and YSlurp right? Coz I'm about to sleep and I'm scared now... :-) - AJ Batac
It's just normal Vista behavior... it seems like they want to warn me every time I open a non-microshaft program - Ross Miller
I'd like to thank Chris and Candace for saving me a lot of time, even though I'd never have played it for any longevity anyway. - Spinn
Candace, you sure about SL without furries, 2 of the 6 avatars its showing me look like furries - Duncan Riley
I really only saw "Human" avatars in the room I actually went in. I'm fairly sure it's Second Life lite. I need to go curl up in a ball for awhile. I feel like I felt after trying Second Life. - Candace Holly
experiment over, Lively under Fusion is a big fail. I get a screen, basic movements, but it's awful to use. Not sure if it's Fusion related or Lively just sucks...I think maybe Lively just sucks. - Duncan Riley
My vote is "lively sucks". I mean honestly, why would anyone who isn't a kid go into that mess? It's nothing that would remotely appeal to me. - Candace Holly
I can see why LinkedIn hasn't been heard of. Not many people are into putting resumes and stuff online anyway and it seems very enterprise-ish - Corvida via twhirl
Surely that should be "What WAS Facebook"? - Chris Nixon
I actually think that FF is what I wanted Facebook to be. - Chris Nixon
"What the (bleep) is the internet" - Jay from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - George Smith
I'm a student. Facebook is the only thing alot of them know. Twitter, Flickr, Linkedin -- like speaking Klingon. - Phillip Jeffrey
What closet, rock or hole have they been living in? Doesn't know what Facebook is? OMG you've got to be kidding me! - Susan Beebe
Facebook's a little green patch. Or a place where someone can buy you as a pet. - Christine Cavalier
Did you tell them it's where they let the asylum inmates play? - Todd Jordan
BTW, most college kids are pretty unaware of social networking. My husband is an undergraduate advisor. They concentrate on texting, mostly. The middle-to-upper class white kids know FaceBook, but that's about it. I wouldn't call 21-25 year olds digital natives. The ''true" digital natives are about 3 years old or younger right now. Corvida, I would guess that many more of your peers will come to ask you this in the coming months. - Christine Cavalier
wow, that beats some of my friends - they know what it is, but don't see the point! - Sarah Perez
LinkedIn is for when you have a career (and are establishing a professional network). Incoming freshman may not know facebook, but most do by the time October runs around. In terms of "digital native", the way I think of it is that the digital natives are those who don't understand the concept of a tv show being on at a specific day and time. My 9-y-o daughter has always known Tivo, whereas I used a 300 baud modem in my first job out of school - Barry Graubart via twhirl
Old school, baby. If you have fond memories of Gopher, then you're as decrepit as I am. - Cecily Walker via Bookmarklet
I still vaguely remember how to cite gopher sources on a works cited sheet. - Mark Trapp
:-) I remember doing Gopher searches in college. - Raoul Pop
when i got my first computer (not all that long ago actually) in graduate school, the university computing services gave me four floppy disks with all this "internet software" -- MOSAIC, Telnet, and Gopher -- I think they're still handing out the same stuff, actually - nathan
Promising yes, but less relevant if the machines came with Vista pre-installed. That's the real story: how many folks upgraded XP machines to Vista? - Kevin C. Tofel
I think Vista is a remarkable improvement over XP. I think buying a new PC with Vista though is the better strategy over upgrading. - Thomas Hawk
promising no, forced yes. I've been testing it for awhile now, some things are very slow (file copy), if XP were better at handling advanced CPUs and more memory i'd swap back. - clarke thomas
Promising possibly but I'm hearing a huge revolt from people who GET Vista and were expecting an O/S they could use. May mean a huge bonus for those smaller shops and possibly Ubuntu - Andrew MacNeill
I work in company where we blocked all machines to upgrade to vista,we even downgraded some machine to Win2000,vista is not well received in most company,let the user discover what they need to get vista running properly and all the app you where used to run on other OS,they all soon downgrade or move to linux,or better and easier: buy a nifty Mac - Ben Borges via fftogo
Ed, then it's not really "promising for sure" from Rob's perspective, is it? Basically with your statement, his observation has less to do with Vista, and much more to do with new PC sales. ;) - Kevin C. Tofel
Well, I think the (mistaken) conventional wisdom is that people hate it so they either (a) aren't buying new PCs or (b) are downgrading to XP or sticking with XP. My near-universal experience with ordinary users is that they like Vista and consider it an improvement over XP. - Ed Bott
I don't see any big advantage to upgrading to Vista. I installed Vista on my laptop at home about a year ago and do like it (don't love it), though my laptop seems to overheat now from time to time. Considering going back to XP if I have the time to deal with the formatting and installation. - Justin Korn
I guess I'm in the minority here. I bought a laptop 6 months ago and decided to have it shipped with Vista... moving forward and all. Blue screens, memory dumps, hard drive scans, and random reboots are how I was rewarded. Maybe it was just a bad install? I did a fresh install; Same errors. Next install; I am now happily running XP Home. Of course i had to finance my own copy because Dell won't admit that Vista was a horrible option for my laptop. - Becca
My parents bad mouth Vista every chance they get. I'm currently in a windows-free environment, so I can't say. - Brian Norwood
@Kevin C. Tofel - Not many at all, I think. Most are new purchases - about what I expected.I'd never encourage anyone to upgrade from XP. - Rob Bushway
@Kevin and @Ed: A lot of regular folks I'm seeing are choosing to buy new laptops with Vista rather than staying put with what they had with XP. I'm with Ed. This to me shows that regular home users are not "holding out" for the next version - nothing scientific, just something I've been picking up on as I've seen people out and about. IMO - Vista is a marked improvement over XP, especially Tablet stuff. - Rob Bushway
Vista should work better with likely more powerful new laptops, and user experience should be more positive on those devices. There are still things I don't like in Vista, but overall I'd take Vista if my device is capable of running it well. I agree with Rob in that Vista is remarkably better for tablet pc platform. I will take Vista anyday over bloated tabletpc xp edition. - Inksim
I upgraded from XP to Vista and then immediately disabled a bunch of the security junk. Personally I like Vista. Most people seem to dislike it because of the popups you get every time you try to do anything or make any kind of changes. As long as it's disabled it runs just fine. - Richard Miles
I get 90% fewer errors on my new Vista Media Center PC then I did on my old XP Media Center PC. It also handles my very large digital media library much better than it's predecessor. I've been really impressed with Vista's performance and there are lots of things about it that I like even more than my primary computer, my MacBook Pro. - Thomas Hawk
Rob, I completely agree with you, Thomas and Ed about Vista being better than XP. That's why I've used it on all of my PCs for over 2 years. My point still remains: if folks are buying new PCs with Vista, how is that "promising for sure"? Is it promising for Vista, for the PC market, for the economy? - Kevin C. Tofel
For me it is a wash -- nothing in Vista that is compelling but since it came with the laptop and works reasonably well ... - Brian Sullivan
@Becca - It sounds like you had a hardware misconfiguration. The only reason you'll see blue screens and random reboots like that is 1) bad memory or 2) bad hardware...but since everything is running fine in XP, it was probably a bad driver for one of your components while running Vista. - Justin Korn
I'm not upgrading from XP Pro on my Dell. Still helping too many friends with Vista peripheral compatibility problems... it makes me nervous having to spend so much time managing it. - Sally Church
Vista has been great for me. Using XP is a hassle - Shey
@Kevin - I think it is promising for MSFT, Vista and the PC market ( economy in general ). What I had been frequently hearing are that people are digging in their heals and largely ordering computers with XP and staying away from Vista like it was the plague. What I'm seeing visually is that isn't the case. Now, I'm not sure they are buying the new laptop because of Vista, but I don't perceive Vista being the stumbling block to keep them from buying. - Rob Bushway
promising??? I guess you are in the PC tech support/repair business - lol - JackRyanBauer via twhirl
Rob, I hope you're right... in my travels, I see far more XP these days, which is a shame. Could be that I see notebooks and not desktops... - Kevin C. Tofel
It was a little shaky back in the early days with driver and program support, but I haven't had a problem with Vista in a solid nine or ten months. It's far more stable than XP *ever* was for me. Yeah, I'd have expected more than a modest improvement after five some odd years - but I really don't get all the Vista hate, or conversely the sudden love for XP (surely one of the worst OSes in history, that didn't become remotely usable until SP2). - Eric
Funny - I recently had to explain the problem with this concept to our 4 year old after she hit her sister in the head with a stick and thought "sorry" made everything okay. - Jonathan Beckett
wake up... it will pass and it should. these men have not allowed one terrorist attack since 9/11. waterboard em I don't give a damn. out the nipple clips on Osama's henchmen. - Noah David Simon
Wow... just wow. Clicking 'Like' just doesn't seem to be fitting. FF needs another option methinks... Anyway, this is disgraceful. - Jamie Clark
now let's see WHO in the Senate actually votes for this. Who's for change ? - Andrew MacNeill via twhirl
The bill passed, like 9 months ago, something like 406-6. It's law. Weren't you all calling your Senators when this was up for the vote last fall? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H... - Adam Turetzky
Ah... Well both my Senators voted against (Mikulski and Sarbanes). DSo that's good. We still got rid of Sarbanes though (he didn't run for re-election). Ben Cardin is the new Junior Senator from the People's Republic of Maryland. - Aaron Brazell
It seems USA is truly heading towards being a totalitarian state - Brian Sullivan
Technically, it is Congress giving Bush a pardon he wrote and inserted in a bill. But he won't escape international prosecution because of this. - Mitch Ratcliffe via twhirl
So is this like asking for forgiveness for something he may or may not do now, or in the future or may have done in the p... oh, damn! I've gone crossed eyed! - zoblue
caffertyfile@cnn.com <- Don't let someone go away just like that. - AJ Batac
Where does responsibility end? Congress voted for the things he's being potentially accused of, as well. Do they get punished for war-crimes? What about the faulty intelligence gatherers? What about folks like Gore and the Clintons, who also supported the Iraqi war? What about the folks who voted for the folks who voted for this war? It's easy to pick on the President because he's a retard, but that doesn't make it sporting. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Songbird was great, problem I had was not with the program itself, it was with other programs, I tend to set my status to my currently playing song, and none of the scripts out there supported songbird. Great program but needs more 3rd party support - BCK
"Brooks also re-emphasized that because Windows 7 won’t veer widely from Vista’s hardware requirements and core set of features, partners should encourage customers to move to Vista today in so they will be well-prepared for Windows 7." --- Does not compute - Kevin D. White
I probably have to show this to one guy, who was yesterday sending all the hell on heads of M$ (together with other 108,000+ people) where MS can NOT solve HW/drivers/SW issues for months... or probably forgot to do so :) - silpol
hahahahahajhahahaahahajahajahahahahahah. Woooooooo!!!! - Bwana McCall via fftogo
Too little, too late. I still love XP. It does its job and I don't have to spend $300 or whatever ridiculous amount of money I need to spend to do what I need to do. - Starman
so essentially, it WAS and IS crap but you should move to it anyway in preparation for more crap called Windows 7....jeesh, I sure hope they have more going on than the two cash cows called Windows and Office... - Kevin Cearns
@Bwana this is not exactly funny, actually - majority of people out there _is_ dependent on MS, and majority of IT basics education goes on guess-which platform... - silpol
Maybe Brooks listens to TWiT, a couple of episodes ago they were talking about how Apple has been promoting OSX at the expense of Vista and MS hasn't done anything at all to combat it. - Jason Shultz via twhirl
@silpol Some concessions were made to Vista compatibility for security reasons. It's better overall for the computing landscape to not support crappy applications and drivers. - Paul Whitaker
@Starman you can get an upgrade to Home Premium for $119 on amazon.com. ;) - Paul Whitaker
I like the admission that Vista is vastly improved now. kind of saying that it was not fully ready at RTM. This does nothing to assure people of Windows Seven - its the next attempt at fulfilling all Vista's promises and it's still winodws under the hood. We need a new OS built for the 21st Century with 21st Century programming, not an OS whose heritage goes back to DOS. - Roberto Bonini
@rbonini: technically, modern Windows (since NT) has more VMS heritage than DOS's. DOS is emulated in it, and not quite brilliantly: dosbox does better. - 9000
Agreed. Web 3.0? The advent of the WebOS? All you need is a thumbdrive with a browser... - Jon Cline via twhirl
I absolutely love both my Vista machines. Just sayin'. - mrshl
“I'm delighted that I have gotten 30 new followers within the last 8 hours here on FriendFeed. Thanks! But can anyone tell me what I have done recently that motivated you to follow me?”
You found me, so I'm following you! Cheers! - Helen
Oh yes, thanks Helen. That reminds me, if you are using firefox, install Greasemonkey (a firefox addon) and this script: http://userscripts.org/scripts... Then go to "better recommended" in your friend settings tab. Very cool. - J. Phil
Im following you because you posted this and it got into my feed! - Chacha
I forget why I'm following you. But I like you. - nathan
I suspect that number will keep growing and growing over the next couple of days ;) - Mark Douglass
louisgray had recommended you as someone to follow, i checked out your profile and friendfeed and decided to follow you as well. - Jason Shultz via twhirl
thank louisgray.... now, stay interesting, or we'll all leave :D - c010depunkk via twhirl
as per Jason recommended, so I checked your profile + recent activity and that is it. - Nick Cowie
I assume somebody just pimped your account :). Easy, ain't it? - Alex Popescu via twhirl
It happens. It happened to me a couple weeks ago, probably just because I was being particularly prolific with FF posts AND comments. Now, the influx has returned to normal, and I'm down to one or two new subscribers for every 10 or so comments/posts - Slippy Lane
i sub'd to you awhile ago philip, because of your comments initially but also because you live in austin and used to work for dell - you're also in my top 10 right between dave slusher and duncan riley :) - mike "glemak" dunn
I made best of day post and a whole bunch of ff followers showed up, maybe you did that? - Fred Grott
I followed you on twitter cuz you're smart and techie! ;o) So it was only natural to follow you here too! - Susan Beebe
Thanks everyone. I appreciate it. But what it really makes me want to do is find a bunch of new, really interesting people that I can highlight on my blog! I think it's time for a new weekly post! - J. Phil
I like some of the items you are reading and sharing, and some of your thoughts - Neill
I saw you are a friend of Mike Dunn so I decided to follow you based on that info. - Tom Guarriello
I am guessing it's the copious photos of lava lights ;) - Steve Isaacs
Steve - yeah lol. Sorry. Rainy day and I wanted to test my eye-fi sd card. No more lava light pics, I promise. - J. Phil
In some ways, I'm happy to acknowledge that I haven't jumped on the iPhone bandwagon. I still think it's a nice phone, but my iPod Touch is sufficient. - Tamar Weinberg
@tamar - well my original iPhone will magically turn into an iPod Touch in a few days. But one with an external speaker - so there. - MG Siegler
I think Steve has this message hooked up to a switch in his house and he just flicks it's on and off then hits refresh on all the Mac news sites to watch them all jump. :) (please give us Firmware 2.0 early for us 1st gen owners!) - Adam Turetzky
11:05PM PST - still down (don't worry won't do these too often) - MG Siegler
My guess... NO NEW PRODUCTS. Everyone cries. - Louis Gray
could very well be a trial run or prep for MobileMe launch on Wed. - MG Siegler
What could POSSIBLY be coming out in the next week that they might want to update the store for.. - Chacha
Your comment to this link made me laugh out loud - Jim Goldstein
Andrea, is that offer open to the entire internet?!? - Adam Turetzky
Adam, no. I am just willing to do my fair share . But maybe there is something here to this story, maybe twitter should start having more sex so it can stay up? - Andrea Baker
PC/XP. R-Click My Computer. Properties. Advanced. Performance. Settings. 'Adjust for best performance'. This turns a lot of stuff of though, so you may not like it ;) - john conroy
John and Duncan - yeah, the only thing I can think of for OS X is add more RAM and run less programs at a time. But there has to be SOMETHING, no? - Andru Edwards
Well, the Mac OS Extended filesystem is so superior compared to NTFS when it comes to optimization. NTFS will throw fragments wherever it can find space whereas mac doesn't reuse space from deleted files (when possible). Its just helluva lot more efficient! Add more ram! The only thing thats going to slow down a Mac today is a poorly written program. - John Barker
Andru, are you posting this because your Mac is running a bit slower since you first bought it? - John Barker
No not at all, just curious what tips might be out there. My Mac speeds along with its 8 cores and 10GB RAM :) - Andru Edwards
Yeah, I really envy you! I have just my MBP now, but in the market for a new desktop in the coming weeks. Think I may be getting a Mac Pro. But overhauling my whole setup, especially with the addition of a HTPC. - John Barker
I use an Automator app called Maintenance periodically. It runs a lot of the basic maintenance tasks OS X is built to run in the wee hours of the morning. Since our two Macs (and many people's Macs) typically aren't on at those times, Maintenance picks up the slack and typically keeps things running smoothly. Hit up Apple's Downloads section or http://automatorworld.com - David Chartier
I haven't entirely decided yet. I think I want to build. I'm anxiously awaiting the hdpc20 so I can get DirecTV (football season, oh yea!) and for that I will need Vista MCE. - John Barker
you could always defrag, though i never really feel like i'm getting anything out of that. just for giggles i installed a trial version windows server 2008 the other day, that's a fast OS, though totally impracticle. so what i'm trying to say is, i have no ideas. - Zach Underwood
Yeah I watched this video the day you guys released it! Have you heard much about the hdpc20? I just read recently that it looks like its release got delayed until Windows 7. If/When I get the hdpc20 my htpc wouldn't need a tuner. - John Barker
Yeah, WIndows 7 it is. Don't wait around for that, you can always upgrade later ;) - Andru Edwards
I have lost all faith in Windows 7 which is effectively going to only be Vista Service Pack 2. No MinWin, no WinFS, nothing to look forward to except more of the same. - Akiva Moskovitz
@Akiva - I agree with you. I can't believe all the amazing things that were stripped out of Longhorn before it became Vista...and now the next version STILL won't have those stripped out features in it? Sign. Here's to Snow Leopard. - Andru Edwards
Yeah, it's a bummer because I want to run a htpc setup in conjunction with directv and that is the only way to do it and have full control with your htpc. (At least from everything I have read/researched). To me, it's almost pointless to have a htpc if you can't control with it. - John Barker
STeve, I think FF is the best Market Research tool available right now !! :)- One can track events, thoughts and bleeps. I am begining to use FF Search to cull info rather then google.. it's a paradigm shift on how one gets/views info - Peter Dawson
Peter, imagine if they add full text feeds! - Steve Rubel
I'm no language expert but isn't there a negative connotation to the phrase "herding behavior?. From Wikipedia: "The term pertains to the behaviour of animals in herds, flocks, and schools, and to human conduct during activities such as stock market bubbles and crashes, street demonstrations, sporting events, episodes of mob violence and even everyday decision making, judgement and opinion forming." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H... - Mike Doeff
@Mike, "...everyday decision making, judgement and opinion forming" thats exactly whats happening at FF.. early adopters are getting culled into the FF sandbox.. like it or not, this is sandbox for conversations, opinion forming and decision making. If this is not a 'herd behavior' of the early adopters then what is it ? I think 40-60% of twitters, just jumped into this sandbox, not knowing nada.. some stuck, some left..but thats how userbase begins .... - Peter Dawson
Peter, I agree that there is a lot of group mechanics going on here. My point was that I often hear "herd behavior" used in a negative light. Here's another example from NY Times article: "Experts have long known that a classic phenomenon called herd behavior has a great deal to do with the wild swings of panic and exuberance that can seize Wall Street in the wake of surprising economic news." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04... - Mike Doeff
Yes herding alive on FF I just did an experiment on that 4 hours ago..good news is that means certain pr would work on FF :) - Fred Grott
Mike, there are always two side to a coin. I'll digress. However, NYT has a funny way of explaining something and making it seem real, when in fact it an't. But then again, thats a classic of MSM media.BTW, when I say NYT, I also mean WSJ, Washpost and a host of other publications. They really do their job well too,I must say !! - Peter Dawson
I can see it go either way. For some reason I prefer the term "swarming" (I think Ray Ozzie might have written an essay about this) versus herd behavior, which to me implies that people are blindly following something. - Mike Doeff
Well, you're looking at the newest cow in the herd. I have 0 interest in social networking. But as an Ad Pro, Steve's stream has been both fascinating and eye-opening. Moo! - Ken Donofrio
yeah that was the long tail analysis "there were 21,011,340 unique queries out of 36,389,567 records in the data set." - It was just another IIT dude fingering the system..no biggie :)- - Peter Dawson
FriendFeed is getting stingy with themselves. Next thing you know, they'll disable their API - Outsanity
@Outsanity - I'm hoping they're smarter than that. If they do, it'll be a quick death, though hardly painless. - Spinn
really these site should be as one yet there fighting with eachother thats just stupid - Ro11z
Methinks someone should tell FriendFeed that Ping.fm is actually helpful to them and the ff community - Outsanity
Makes me wonder if they're having server overload issues or something, and trying to cut down on outside overhead. Still doesn't make much sense. Makes less sense for them to hold the cards and not tell us what's up. - Spinn
I don't understand why people use Ping.fm to push messages to Twitter, Jaiku, Pownce, etc. and then import ALL those accounts into FriendFeed. Ping.fm being blocked will only be a good thing for the community. - Pat Hawks
Yeah, I don't get it. Why not just ping one of the 40 services Friendfeed supports? - Mark Trapp
FriendFeed imports my Twitter stream just fine, with no help from Ping.fm - Pat Hawks
I'm with Pat on this. Although, it's a delicate situation... if some notices go everywhere and others are service specific. Aggregation (by exact string) would help this problem go away. - felix
Pat, by that response, you don't know what Ping.fm is. It's not there to solve a FriendFeed import issue - it's there as a notification tool for all networks, not just FriendFeed. FriendFeed is YASN. - l0ckergn0me
Kinda sitting on the fence here. Think @PatHawks is correct: seeing lots of ping.fm pollution. Lots of needless push. - Barbara K. Baker
Oh, I've used Ping.fm and understand that it works well if you have some friends on Twitter and different friends on Jaiku, but FriendFeed can slurp up all these other services, negating the need for Ping.fm to repost everything here. - Pat Hawks
Chris, the central point is that when Friendfeed imports a good half-dozen of the services Ping.fm is already pinging to, do you really need to spam another service? - Mark Trapp
Now, if FriendFeed could filter out all the duplicates, then Ping.fm (or something similar) would fit right into the FF ecosystem. Imagine a multiple-in, multiple-out one stop shop for updating and monitoring all of your social services. - Pat Hawks
Mark, so you're suggesting I have to force all my Twitter, FaceBook, MySpace, etc. "friends" to follow me here?! Are you nuts!? - l0ckergn0me
Chris, I understand where you're coming from, but what is the advantage of "pinging" Twitter and FriendFeed instead of just importing your Twitter feed? (btw, thanks for that link, Bwana!) - Pat Hawks
The advantage is that my $SOCIAL_NETWORK-only friend will be able to read my status updates on that network without having to join FriendFeed. More
importantly and to the point: since FF offers this type of access to their API then I should be able to use the services which wrap products around the functionality, regardless of how much sense, or lack thereof, it makes. - Scott Jarkoff
Chris, your Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, etc. friends are already receiving your updates via Ping.fm. Your Friendfeed friends can receive your updates via Twitter or Brightkite or LinkedIn or Pownce or Jaiku or Tumblr or whatever else you're already pinging to that are already in Friendfeed. Why do you need to overload yet another service with your status updates? - Mark Trapp
Scott, I understand that I should be able to do anything on MY FriendFeed, regardless of how much sense it makes. I guess I just don't understand why some people are getting so worked up about not being able to post to Twitter AND FriendFeed when FriendFeed can import Twitter. - Pat Hawks
It boils down to this: I'd much rather post on a network in the network's native tongue. Hence, wanting to post a new update on FriendFeed as posted to FriendFeed, Twitter to Twitter, Pownce to Pownce, Jaiku to Jaiku, etc. Not Twitter to Pownce, Plurk to FriendFeed, or HooHaa to WackyDoodle. - l0ckergn0me
I'm definitely with Mark on this one. If I'm on Jaiku, BrightKite, Twitter - yadda yadda yadda, I'm going to have these service coming in FriendFeed. Why would I want to blast each of these services with "I'm getting ready to wash my hair and here's my blog post: http://..." and have the same thing show up several times here (this problem is already here)? Which one will my friends comment on? I understand Ping.fm, but the redundancy doesn't lend itself well to FF and I don't think that's FF's problem. - Vince DeGeorge
Mark, Pat, Vince - you still don't understand Ping.fm. You're arguing a side in a discussion that isn't happening here. FriendFeed is NOT THE ONLY and ultimate destination for micro updates. - l0ckergn0me
Chris, while I'm not sure how much value there is in necessarily speaking a services native tongue, I respect that you don't use Ping.fm AND import your Twitter stream. Seriously, thank you. It's *those* people that really irritate me. - Pat Hawks
I've been following the Ping.fm/FF support requests in the FF Google group and they have been responsive, they even gave Ping a way to contact the engineers at FF directly. I don't think they are being neglected at all. http://groups.google.com/group... - cmiper
I use Ping.fm and Friendfeed...I feel your pain - Ethan
Chris, when you share something on Twitter, we see it here in addition to everyone seeing it on Twitter. The same goes for every other service. There's no difference between a Twitter share and any other share besides the icon to the left. When you share something to Friendfeed, the only destination of that message is to Friendfeed, which is the exact opposite of what you state you want. So, what you're doing is posting multiple duplicate messages to Friendfeed when you can just as easily remove one: the Friendfeed ping, since we see all the other status updates anyway. - Mark Trapp
I have not used ping yet and some of the acronyms escape me but I am not why there is a need for more multi-posting. I am still experimenting with how not to bore all with some of my more mundane posts. - Mathew A. Koeneker via fftogo
Mark: again, you're not my only "friend" - and not all of my "friends" are on FriendFeed. Period. End of story. I don't know why you keep belaboring your position? You're assuming everybody is everywhere, and they're not. Moreover, I'm kinda annoyed when I see a Twitter 'response' show up in a FriendFeed post - with no leads, no idea what the tweet was responding to in the first place (nature of Twitter). - l0ckergn0me
Matthew - What makes you think we'll be bored? Some of us want to see it all. - Brent Newhall
can't believe this discussion is still going. chris should do a video response and we should all follow each other as a sign of solidarity. - Vincent Guerrero
Chris, that's exactly my point. Your friends are elsewhere. Friendfeed knows this. That's why it imports your activity from 41 other places you'd be on the internet. So why would you want to silo a discussion on Friendfeed by creating a post that can only be seen on Friendfeed? - Mark Trapp
You know what, forget it, you're totally right Chris. I just don't get it. - Mark Trapp
Brent: Thank you! I happen to be riding in that boat as well. Bring on the sea of information. :) - Mathew A. Koeneker
With that being said. FriendFeed has lifted our limits to create mass chaos. Enjoy. -
