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I don’t feel safe with Wordpress, hackers broke in and took things - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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Well, if you have fixed the hole by upgrading; you should feel a lot safer now. I guess strong user adoption does bring the wrong kind of attention.
- Anindya Chatterjee
Anindya: we're watching. Looks like they haven't gotten back in since the upgrade and some of the other changes we made. Knock on wood.
- Robert Scoble
I'm very tempted to switch to a SixApart install. As a Perl programmer I'd be much more familiar with the backend.
- Jesse Stay
Robert, btw, I'm sure between all your users you can find a backup. I have a bunch via Google Reader I could get to Rackspace to import for you. I'm sure others have even older entries than I have. Let us know if you want help restoring the old scobleizer.com!
- Jesse Stay
robert - i can tell you this - you need to watch it like a hawk - when i thought i was safe - i wasn't - InsideTransit continues to get hit - and I still believe there is some patches and stuff that RS can do as well - the bigger issue is what's on the server - because that's where they put the shells and then they can do whatever they want.
- Allen Stern
Not cool, hopefully things will work out.
- Kim Landwehr
Jesse: luckily it was July and August, when I wasn't doing much blogging. No biggie. Thanks. Allen: yes, Rackspace Cloud has a security team now and they are actively looking at ways to make Wordpress safer for our customers. It really sucks getting hacked. Let me know if you find any other ways to protect the systems.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yea getting hacked sucks. My early days with my blog aboutonlinematters.com I got hacked and luckily my ISP had a backup. Since then I have treated my Wordpress blog like any dev site - with a subversion repository and complete backup. But there are days... like today... when I think strongly about a platform like typepad.
- Arthur Coleman
what i have found is locking down the files helps - but you need to ftp into your site and make sure that nothing has been edited or added - in my case, on all my sites, the hackers put files all over that were base64 files - and what they do is include them into WP or they just run them direct - nearly a full shell. i've asked RS to create a way so that i can be notified of any changes to files - they say it's too heavy to run.
- Allen Stern
Robert, I just miss the traffic from your "You are SO Unfollowed!" article. (one of the casualties) ;-)
- Jesse Stay
There's a lot of great info they deleted - I'm a little ticked they would be completely insensitive like that to prove a security flaw. It affected much more than just you.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: yeah, that's probably the one blog that I miss. It's also the one that got me to notice they deleted a couple of months.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: that still is cached over on Google at http://74.125.155.132/search...
- Robert Scoble
No way "You are SO unfollowed" is out? I loved that one! :-( thanks for the cache Robert
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
If you have no time to take care of yuors blog, maybe it's better if you choose the pro offer from wordpress.com ( I think scobleizer.com can have the minimum requirement to stay there).
- wolly
here it the VIP hosting http://en.wordpress.com/vip-hos...
- wolly
wolly: it's not just about time, attacks come from all directions so you've gotta have a holistic approach to security. How many of you regularly change passwords and make sure they are really good ones? (Twitter got broken into not because of hacks, but because they didn't practice good password security).
- Robert Scoble
It saddens me: it is morally reprehensible your hosting company convinced you to switch with the seduction of plugins and customization without emphasizing or handling the increased responsibility of upgrades. Your blog was not unique and not a special target, the worms sweep across millions of blogs indiscriminately and hit whatever is vulnerable. If your host is lax in upgrading, the...
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- Matt Mullenweg
that's true :-) I use password very strange and very verylong that I cannot remember and I use a service like clipperz.com to login.
- wolly
wolly, Robert was hosted on WordPress.com for about 4 years -- he was actually the very first VIP. Although there were dozens of security updates to WordPress in that time, his blog never had a problem because it was always up-to-date. He only switched away a few months ago.
- Matt Mullenweg
Ciao Matt :-) I didn't know that, so scoble come back to the light side :)
- wolly
Matt: yup, that's true. I've learned my lesson. Running your own servers are a lot harder than just having them hosted on Wordpress.com.
- Robert Scoble
To be frank, it completely breaks whatever trust I had in Rackspace.
- Matt Mullenweg
But Matt, I've been talking with many blog owners, including at TechCrunch, and they say that Wordpress' updates break their custom plugins. That's why they don't upgrade immediately. So, sounds like Wordpress has a mess on its hands that the hosted version of Wordpress didn't have (I couldn't run a lot of plugins and video embeds and other fun things on the hosted version of Wordpress). So, to blame it on my hoster/employer (Rackspace) exclusively isn't really a good attitude either.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, It happens. We were hacked too. My observations lead me to believe that this summer was the worst in a long time. Its a war and its going to be a war until the attitude towards hackers changes. Let's stop being fascinated in the least bit by how they do it (this goes towards Kevin Mitnick and his supporters- I don't ever want to pay good money to read about your scams on the...
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- Melanie Reed
Matt's got a point that with greater power (self-hosting) comes greater responsibility (more need to keep an eye on security), but I think to say that Scoble's blog was not a special target is a bit disingenuous. High-profile sites are always a higher-value target.
- Rachel Luxemburg
Matt: I think you need to really look at all the damage that's being done to a wide range of sites, many of which are NOT hosted at Rackspace, before throwing more barbs. That's bull. Sorry. But I added a link to this conversation to my blog so people could see your point of view.
- Robert Scoble
If a plugin is preventing you from upgrading (did it?) then let's figure out how to fix that plugin. All I can do in WordPress is build in the notices (your blog was asking you to upgrade for months) and the one-click updates for both core and plugins. I agree it's not your (Robert Scoble's) fault because I don't think you made the conscious decision to take on the increased responsibility.
- Matt Mullenweg
Matt: the reputation around the Net is that upgrades on Wordpress break things. This wasn't a Rackspace recommendation. It's also a problem with all upgrades. I've gotten hosed by upgrades elsewhere. Look at all the people upgrading to Snow Leopard who are having things break.
- Robert Scoble
Matt: TechCrunch hasn't upgraded its blog either and it wasn't hosted on Rackspace (at least not until a couple of days ago).
- Robert Scoble
I'm not saying there isn't lots of misinformation around the net, I'm saying "how can I help your blog, please." If it's a plugin preventing you from upgrading, let me know the plugin and we'll fix it even if we didn't write it. That's the beauty of open source.
- Matt Mullenweg
Robert -- Avoiding upgrades because they're annoying to deal with isn't a viable longterm strategy.
- Rachel Luxemburg
they need to take care of Scoble's blog, well for he is a VIP and the smashing they would have would do a lot of damage to your customer base and otherwise, would they reply to an ordinary guy say like me? i think not,well wordpress/automattic is having their tough moments, hope things get well and they get their repute back
- testbeta
Matt - you blaming Rackspace for security vulnerabilities in YOUR software platform is kinda like blaming Dell when a Windows box gets hacked. I think you are being irrational.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt: in my case it was the REPUTATION of Wordpress's upgrades that was keeping me from upgrading. I was waiting to see what other people reported broke. I didn't realize the severity of the security problems. But, I am now upgrading automatically. So I'm fixed. But you still have a reputation problem. Lots of people are reporting things break when they upgrade.
- Robert Scoble
Rob, I'm not blaming them. I'm saying it's the responsibility of any host, of any software, to stay up to date. If there was a SSH vulnerability on Robert's box I would say the same thing. Software updates are inevitable, there is no such thing as bug-free code, so staying up to date is a must.
- Matt Mullenweg
Isn't all this open source code? If it's broken, why not fix it? Doesn't everyone have the responsibility to do that? It's not any one source's fault in that case.
- Jesse Stay
Matt - I agree with you. So make Wordpress upgrades SAFE, automatic AND do some internal validation of plugin code to let users know they may be running something that is potentially insecure.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt, agreed. Not when its turned out as fast as people are yelling for it. People can't have it both ways.
- Melanie Reed
Matt: all Rackspace was providing to me was a Linux host. I was responsible for getting my upgades done on anything I ran on that system. But now we have a team making sure we're following best practices. That is NOT Rackspace's problem, though. That's like blaming Microsoft for a bug in Adobe software.
- Robert Scoble
I never listen to the reputation, I always upgrade as a security upgrade is out, and if a plugin doesn't work or I deactivate it or I fix it. Security is much more important than a plugin and Matt knows how many plugins has my blog (when he looked my backend he was very sad ad he said that it was the first time for him to see so many plugin in a blog :-) ) To have a self host blog it's difficult and time expensive.
- wolly
There are several very useful plugins specifically addressing security issues; and monitoring WP for suspicious activities (both on file and database level). Here are some articles with tips to harden your blog http://bit.ly/sZgh6 (delicious bookmarks). I only install plugins from authors from whom I know that they implement top level php; no breaking of upgrades on my 3 WP blogs has taken place (2.7-2.8-2.8.4)
- Jeroen De Miranda
Yeah, plugin issues are the responsibility of the plugin developer, not Wordpress's. I don't see how this is Wordpress's or Rackspace's fault.
- Jesse Stay
By the way, Matt, Sheamus, over on my comments on my blog, says he has the latest upgrades in place and he's still being broken into. You might help him figure out how the hackers are breaking in still.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry, I was under the impression Rackspace had recommended you move away from WordPress.com and taken responsibility for the system. I was worried about your blog -- I emailed you about this in August but never heard back. It breaks my heart when someone's WordPress gets compromised.
- Matt Mullenweg
I understand the feeling though - if people are still being broken into after being told a fix was made, especially if you're not a developer, that can be a little scary. I'd look to other solutions in that case if it were me, and it's no one's fault. It's just perception and fear, very valid fear.
- Jesse Stay
I do believe there is a false sense of securty that WORDPRESS fosters by hosting plugins. I think many assume that because they download the pluging VIA Wordpress, and FROM Wordpress, it is somehow vetted.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt: no. I wanted to move to my own install of Wordpress so that I could run many more plugins and start doing stuff other professional bloggers were doing. I am learning very quickly just how much work goes on behind the scenes to make sure my words were protected.
- Robert Scoble
Once you've been hacked once if you don't clean up every trace (preferably a systems person does this) it's very likely something is left that allows the spammers to easily break back in, regardless of what version you're on. That's why the trouble with upgrading is worth it, it's much, much less than the trouble of fixing a hacked blog.
- Matt Mullenweg
Jesse: yeah, at Microsoft when a box got broken into they wouldn't let you use it anymore. They forced you to reinstall it with all patches loaded. They assumed that it was compromised and that someone stuck a back door in somewhere. That's a lot of work too.
- Robert Scoble
install either wp-backup or wp-dbmanager and configure database backup: every day; download to your local pc (or to a system other than your hosting provider); run a check once a month to see whether you can reconstruct the blog in case of calamity, That is my procedure; works fine.
- Jeroen De Miranda
if a commoner gets hacked, then he should move to wordpress.com services or what?
- testbeta
they should just make it not have any security holes!
- Mark
Robert, if you like I'd be happy to host your blog for you (and I'm on Rackspace servers). I can keep it secure as well. I'd only ask some mention of SocialToo somewhere (or payment of some form in order to cover the cost of bandwidth).
- Jesse Stay
I would also be able to keep it backed up for you.
- Jesse Stay
So the take away messages are: 1) hosting services like Rackspace support the hardware and OS layer and you're are on your own for everything else, 2) maintaining your own website is difficult work, even for experienced IT professionals, 3) social media experts may not really know how to use the social media tools they are recommending, and 4) while hosted applications like Wordpress.com provide less flexibility, they take less effort and can be more reliable for the average small business.
- Steve Wilhelm
I'll also install any plugins you're interested in trying
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: in my case, I now have a team of the top security guys at Rackspace working on it and making sure my system is up to date and backed up. They also are learning a lot about this and other people who have had problems and are building a list of best practices.
- Robert Scoble
This is eventually why I didn't go with Mosso. The service looks good, but you still have to manage your app yourself which opens you up to problems like you've experienced. It would be cool if they offered another layer of management on top so apps could be completely hands free.
- Todd Hoff
the alternative (i.e. strong vetting of all plugins) would turn the whole WordPress ecosphere into something such as Ning.... only some 300 addons (as far as I know); little flexibility very intransparent how to get your addin accepted .... Not an attractive model for me....
- Jeroen De Miranda
Robert, excellent - just wanted to make sure the offer was out there. Maybe that could be a tiered service for Rackspace, although I'm not sure it's something Rackspace wants to get into. Bluehost barely makes any money off of that type of service.
- Jesse Stay
Steve: I think that's a reasonable set of assumptions. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. When I was on Wordpress.com I was always jealous of blogs that were able to run the latest plugins and use the latest embed codes from various sites.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it's even more fun when you can customize the plugins and themes as a developer. :-)
- Jesse Stay
@testbeta wrdpress.com is a very good choice if you don't have time or you don't know how to manage security on yors self hosted blog
- wolly
wolly: that takes out the open source fun part ;) well i have nothing much to do on my blogs so i keep mine updated ;)
- testbeta
I agree with you :-) but many people love blogging non update theirs blogs :-)
- wolly
when my sites were hacked - a wordpress employee reached out to me- i dont remember her name but we sent a few emails - i could write for days about what happened to my 5 sites - my take is simple - i think the issues are a combo of rackspace (my host) and wordpress (my software) - i can tell you this - in 3+ yrs on drupal, i was NEVER hacked. and Matt is right - the real issue is that...
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- Allen Stern
Allen - what version of WP are you running today?
- Rob La Gesse
2.8.4 on all of them
- Allen Stern
Allen - good :)
- Rob La Gesse
If there's a shell script on the same server as you, even if it's not your account, everything on that server is at risk regardless of the software or its version.
- Matt Mullenweg
Matt - that is NOT true
- Rob La Gesse
I would switch to a new server if I were infected at this point.
- Jesse Stay
Properly configured, user space can be isolated and these scripts cannot cross-pollinate.
- Rob La Gesse
It can be -- but publish a shell login on your server and we'll see. ;) The right answer is to scrub that sort of access.
- Matt Mullenweg
Matt - that comment on the "shell script" is silly. What are you actually trying to say?
- Robert J Taylor
Some sort of backdoor that allows a remote user to execute code -- it's super common.
- Matt Mullenweg
rob/matt - that wsa one of the biggest issues with my RS account - i had all the sites together in one "client" so when they hacked one - they were able to move around with their shell script into all my other sites - now each site is in a sep. "client" so the damage can only hurt me on one site - and believe me it does hurt :( i believe insidetransit and centernetworks are hit in google
- Allen Stern
@Scobleizer I'm sticking with @wordpress it doesn't worry me that much, plus I always update and have backups of db and site emailed to me
- Justin Yost
Allen - that was within one user space though. So what I stated above still stands true.
- Rob La Gesse
Allen and Robert are big enough that if they had a problem they could contact us and we'd help them, though as far as I know neither did, but I worry a lot more about smaller folks who get hit in the same way. The knowledge for how to properly clean up after a hack is more systems than software and not widespread.
- Matt Mullenweg
As Allen mentioned above, he did have a conversation with Wordpress.
- Rob La Gesse
matt - thanks for putting me in the same category as robert! *blush* - i did reach out to you - and your security guy was helping me big time - it seemed to turn out that the WP Contact Form 7 was the thing that caused it to start - i didn't document it all online because the security guy wanted time to get the plugin developer to fix the upload hole. - btw his name was mark jaquith and he was great
- Allen Stern
So why not some scheme where Wordpress vets a plugin and "blesses it" - perhaps a small charge for this service? As long as Wordpress is advertising plugins on the dashboard I think there ample reason to hold Wordpress to some level of accountability for those plugins
- Rob La Gesse
rob - that's what i told mark - they should offer that service for a tiny fee - stamp a "certified" stamp on it.
- Allen Stern
Just updated all my sites, doesnt look I was hit.
- sean percival
sean - no one would hit you - they know you would lala all over them
- Allen Stern
sean - happy for you!
- Rob La Gesse
I've read almost all of the comments here, not hearing these mentioned once: Robert did not backup, kept the default 'admin' username and failed to update. These are three of the most basic security measures out there. Not blaming it on Robert, because we all fail on this sometimes, but these basics really are important!
- Abounding Media
http://twitter.com/markjaq... warning of Mark in April - kept me away from WP contact form 7
- Jeroen De Miranda
Abounding: yup. And the lesson here is don't host your own version of Wordpress unless you have a security team making sure you're doing it right and backing up (something I never did on Wordpress.com, by the way). Oh, and Twitter taught us that even if you do all of that you've gotta make sure you pick great passwords and think through ways that social hacks could be done to get into your accounts.
- Robert Scoble
I've written a much longer post on this: http://wordpress.org/develop...
- Matt Mullenweg
http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2008... some great tips of Mark Jaquith on writing secure plugins - I use these and other tips when scanning the PHP code of new plugins that I intend to use (before deploying them)
- Jeroen De Miranda
Jeroen, thanks for posting that. I've had phishers getting into one of my WP installs recently, but couldn't tell which plugin it was. I deactivated two plugins, including CF7, the other day, and haven't had any more problems. And a shoutout to Ryan Boren on the WP dev team for helping me to de-infect.
- John Craft
Robert: Welcome to the world of web development for impatient users and disgruntled hackers
- Melanie Reed
http://wordpress.org/develop... great post of Matt Mullenweg about WordPress security!
- Jeroen De Miranda
john - the CF7 is what killed me a few months ago - it's because the form allows uploads even if you don't actually have them on - i believe they patched it but i have not gone back there.
- Allen Stern
anybody know if a little smily face appearing in the lower right hand corner of ones footer is a sign of a compromise on a self hosted wp blog?
- Richard Reeve
John, your are welcome! SQL injects attacks specifically exploit data entry fields used by the plugin; one should at least scan the PHP code of these plugins, and look at what kind of escape functions are used around handling of the data entry.
- Jeroen De Miranda
"it's because the form allows uploads even if you don't actually have them on" - wow. That's bad.
- John Craft
Richard is wp-stats smily :-)
- wolly
"anybody know if a little smily face appearing in the lower right hand corner of ones footer is a sign of a compromise on a self hosted wp blog?" - if you didn't put it there, it probably is. In your admin go to appearance, theme editor, and read the footer.php file.
- John Craft
Richard - are you using the WordPress.com Stats plugin?
- Andre Natta
some plugins worth considering to install are: wp-exploit-scanner, wordpress file monitor, WP security scan, anti virus
- Jeroen De Miranda
I don't understand why people are worried about a plugin breaking when it comes to upgrading WordPress. If a plugin does break, disable it for the time being. I rather have a secure installation of WordPress running and would worry about fixing the plugin afterwards.
- Jason Hansen
Hmmmm . . . I run WP Stats, but see no smiley face.
- John Craft
ah...thanks folks...stats it is. phew...so I'm not paranoid...
- Richard Reeve
There appears to be some a-holes who can break into wordpress blogs very easily. I'm not sure at this point that the new Wordpress Thesis blog that I'm interested in getting is safe either. There is some security issues with Wordpress and their incompetence to fix the problem is growing every year. They keep coming out with new versions to replace the old versions yet they still have a problem. This is serious guys.
- Jeunelle Foster
The problem with WordPress is that it forces you to upgrade. Imagine if Microsoft forced everybody to upgrade to Vista/Windows 7 in order to get their security holes plugged. WordPress should release security patches for the current and at least for the previous version.
- Nikolay Kolev
They dont force you to upgrade. If you dont want to patch, you can leave it at the current version ( but with a risk )
- Kashif Khan
Where's the patch for the 2.7 version then?
- Nikolay Kolev
Their versioning strategy bumps up numbers even for patches . And how many versions behind should they support ?
- Kashif Khan
Many of the WordPress security issues are not coming from the WordPress itself, but from the poorly written WordPress plugins. I think it would be nice if Automattic starts an "Automattic Certified" program giving blog owners the peace of mind they need. Every hacker can upload a plugin at WordPress.org, advertise it as something great, bloggers install it, see that it's nothing as advertised, uninstall it, but the WordPress instances are already hacked.
- Nikolay Kolev
Plugins are open source and free and nobody (well, with some exceptions) would pay to get their free plugin certified. The only way to do this is by having a community review process, based on some credibility score and voter authority system where 1,000 fake hacker accounts won't, for example, outweigh Matt's or Mark's votes.
- Nikolay Kolev
part of the problem is the cry wolf syndrome - if i updated every day wordpress had a security problem i'd want to be salaried on the payroll :D Wordpress needs some sort of alert notification - twitter or something that indicates if there's an update AND the severity and if its severe enough sends it to my phone.
- mal
let me play the other side of the coin - i've been using vbulletin for my forums for probably more than 5 years - and it's never once been hacked - why is this - is it because it's paid? is it just more secure? would love to get some input on why wordpress seems to be the attacker's gold.
- Allen Stern
@allenstern because it pays back better to have wp hacked
- A.T.
Another devil - I have clients using Expression Engine for years (with plugins) and haven't had a problem either. Checking security sites, EE has had very few vs the many with WP and some with Drupal. Matts suggestion that one hosts with him to avoid problems and keep updated just isn't in the cards for business sites. Just too many vulnerabilities with WP over the years for me to recommend it.
- PXLated
i can tell you that within 2 days of moving from drupal to wp, my sites were hacked - all of them - and it made me seriously question the move - the reasons i moved were because wp is a bit easier to edit/code than drupal and because the admin panel in wordpress is awesome compared to the crap panel in drupal - i wrote up a whole post about why i moved - i'd like to see matt write a post about their qa and security procedures for their releases
- Allen Stern
Alen, once Drupal 7 get released, you may actually go back. :)
- Nikolay Kolev
Robert - If I were you I'd move away from Wordpress and fast. Its security record is dire and has been for ages. Other solutions are a lot more stable, whereas Wordpress seems to have security bugs every second week. Why anyone puts up with it is really beyond me. I moved to MovableType and haven't had to worry about caching issues or security problems
- Michele Neylon
#somethingpersonal WP calls you "technical evengelist", Robert. When you say «Yes, I didn’t have a backup. I should learn to do backups» I call you a mediawhore. Nothing TECH-NI-CAL, just bulled ego. Learn Security, Performance, Reliability, you ignorant piece.
- Ontology Nazi
Robert - "the reputation around the Net is that upgrades on Wordpress break things" I'm sorry but that's just not true, I use many many plugins across about 20 sites and I've only ever ONCE had a plugin break during a WP upgrade.
- John O'Nolan
Definitely check if Google Reader has your lost posts - as of a few months ago, it didn't handle deletes very well :)
- Michael Herf
This recent wave of WordPress incidents shows the negative side of using open source software. Matt says that there are many people looking into WordPress' source code, but the problem is that probably half of those people have malicious reasons for doing so.
- Nikolay Kolev
@Matt - why not have a module that adds *automatic* upgrades? The one-click update feature is very nice, but zero clicks is better. With a decent snapshot/rollback system you could update most people securely right away--email them and let them rollback if something breaks.
- Michael Herf
@robert: we might be able to help you recover the lost blog posts if you want. Google Reader has an archive of them and we helped another blogger in the past recover her losses. Let me know if we can help.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@matt when do you start to care about poor people unlike robert... who can't afford *VIP* i am willing to pay $25+ per month of course with my adsense ads :}
- Imran Jafri
@robert by the way you made one of the worst choice to move away from wordpress.com i think it wasn't price issue rather you wanted to be brand *ambassador* for rackspace which was only possible if you host your blog on their damn servers... if i get enough visitors i would switch to wordpress.com vip without taking 2nd breathe........
- Imran Jafri
I run just a few plugins, and research and vet them first. And upgrade to new WP versions within a week. Look, attacks happen, running self-hosted can get complicated. But this is true with any software or OS
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
from iPhone
Nikolay, it's always better to have more people looking at the code, because a bug that's been found is better than a bug that hasn't. WordPress used to get almost no security problems and people thought it was because it was coded differently, when in fact it was coded far worse than it is today it just didn't have enough users to make it worthwhile to target. Also where many...
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- Matt Mullenweg
Nikolay: I would also push back against your assumption that using Open Source software equals less security. Microsoft Windows and OS X are both closed source and both have security holes - there is a competition each year to help MS and Apple find them and fix them. Both Apple and Microsoft came away with security holes to fix this year. So just because it's open source doesn't...
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- Tim
that's what you get for the fun of installing and hosting your own installation, instead of using "the cloud".
- Ihar Mahaniok
Robert - I recommend WP S3 Backups for backing up your database to off-site storage. Amazon S3 is a great place to host backups of your Wordpress database and is relatively inexpensive. You *always* want backups *off* the server so in case the server is compromised, the backups are still clean. This plugin works like a charm, is automatic and could have saved you. Cheers!
- Scott Jarkoff
anybody know of a test that can be done to see if a wp blog has been compromised? Has a few strange user subscriptions about a week ago...but not noticing any thing else...I did upgrade weeks ago, but soon enough?
- Richard Reeve
bug exploits keep security IT folks in their day job, sad but true.
- Jim Posner
In IT it keeps me busy but the reality is if you update your software on a regular basis you can minimize these from affecting you.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, any chance archive.org has some of your old blog posts? Google Cache?
- drew olanoff
Matt, another thing to note is that Wordpress.com is often blocked in China (even if you have your own custom URL like scobleizer.com). There are advantages to NOT being hosted by Wordpress.com although your point about increased responsibilty for keeping up with security patches is still valid.
- Elliott Ng
Drew: yeah, but what do I do? Just republish them?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Sure why not. Scoble's best of. Reason why I hate stuff on the net sometimes is good stuff gets lost.
- drew olanoff
Give a try to the "WordPress Database Backup" plugin for WordPress and you'll receive regular backups on your email
- Francois Lamotte
Robert, You can get all of your lost blog post html out of Google Reader. I'm not exactly sure how to link Disqus back, maybe it's as simple as re-adding the old posts with the same title/date i.e. Url (I don't use it). Yet another reason to use FULL RSS feeds (instead of summary). See RSS isn't dead.. it's now a backup tool too! (http://ff.im/7JrlC)
- Chris Myles
Wordpress is a great blogging tool. It is however the largest target now - much like how Windows gets a crap-top more virii because it's the most used system. Someone used Drupal as am example of security... well I'm sure if Drupal was anywhere near the scale of usage Wordpress is you'd see hacks for that too.
- Gregory Wild-Smith
Robert: Just repost them with the dates set to the original dates they were posted. Simple, and no-one will ever know ;)
- Gregory Wild-Smith
I have always had a bad feeling about Wordpress. YMMV.
- Gordon Joly
from twhirl
Robert It could be a Rackspace problem and Not a Wordpress Problem. They might to increase there security on the Rackspace!!! You should checck into that!!
- Paul
One of the reasons I waited 2 years to switch from MovableType to WordPress was due to the security issues. I felt that the track record improved over the past year and moved 11 sites over. I can say this I employ a very extensive back up scheme but still worry about it. The ability to upgrade with a single click of a button has made it much easier to upgrade, but I always worry which plugins are going to break as I use a lot of plugins.
- Todd Cochrane
It's interesting to me to see the number of people who are "afraid" to implement a security update because it might break a plugin. I wonder if these are the same people who don't run system updates on Mac or Windows because it might break SIMBL or some other haxie. Your core = your core... without it you're smoked. Case in point: Scoble. If your plugins aren't working after an update, let the author know and request an update, but BY ALL MEANS don't ignore security upgrades.
- Kevin Donahue
hmm... I think that a lot of this conversation is missing something. Most software security updates are usually tested in hosts and thus delayed in their own releases by at the minimum of a week's time usually. This is due to hosting internal testing of patches before rolling it out to all servers. Now, whether or not RS actually performs these types of procedures, I don't know... but I...
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- Ben Hwang
First: I keep my blog up to date. Always. Fuck plugins, I decided that when I made the decision to use WP for my blog that updates would be a priority, only because of all the security issues that I remember from the early early days. Having said that, I have to agree with Robert that the perception with WordPress, despite all the work with auto-updates and in-blog notification is STILL...
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- Christina Warren
from iPod
I am spending the day finally making a back-up of my web space, then the upgrade.
- Sebastian Keil
you are right to not feel safe: when you are on the dominant platform, holes get taken advantage of really fast. At least it being open source you know it will also get plugged fast
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
"what do I do? Just republish them?" - Robert, you can set the published date to the original July or August date in the "new post" form. Where it says "publish immediately," click "edit".
- John Craft
I couldn't disagree more that the reputation is that an upgrade will break a plugin. How many plugins reach into the Wordpress core and screw around with it? Less than 5%? Any examples of plugins that broke w/ 2.8.4?
- beersage
Somebody hacked into my WordPress blog earlier this year as well. It was a bummer because I was working on a draft copy of a blog post that was very rough and had not been edited and they published it. I was on vacation shooting in Chicago and didn't figure it out until several hours after they'd already published it. Fortunately they didn't seem to do anything malicious other than...
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- Thomas Hawk
@Robert: "[Rackspace] are learning a lot about this and other people who have had problems and are building a list of best practices." Is it possible this list is something RS might share?
- John House
@Matt Mullenweg: I do like WordPress (even though we had a public argument with you and another Automattic employee on TechCrunch a while ago) and I am a passionate supporter of open source software - don't get me wrong. But sometimes open source code makes it a bit easier for hackers! For example, one hacker hears about an exploit and without communicating with others, finds the hole independently by just looking into the source code and starts exploiting it on his own.
- Nikolay Kolev
Gregory Wild-Smith Bingo!
- Melanie Reed
Social Media Club blogs got hit as well as several of our personal blogs (still sorting it all out). We try to keep up on most upgrades, but every time we do, simple plugins (like the Event calendar) break. Seems silly, but we have hours of work after each upgrade to try and keep everything intact, and sometimes, we end up downgrading until the 'essential' plugins catch up, which...
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- Kristie Wells
I have 2 wordpress blogs. One on my own domain and one at wordpress central. Still can't get my head around their upgrade gymnastics - may just stick with eBlogger after all.
- Houseofmax
i don't know what will happen in times to come but from the existing platforms, i love wordpress and i am not going anywhere, but that doesn't matter for wordpress right? ;)
- testbeta
Robert, at the end of it is just only your bloody laziness in upgrading that led you here :) Jokes aside, please at least be honest and say you didn't upgradede twice... :p.
- Matteo Flora
Nope. I upgraded to 2.8.4 as soon as it was out but the hackers had already broken in.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
The fact that WordPress is currently being exploited doesn't mean that other platforms are immune. For example, the recently discovered XSS issue with Ruby on Rails makes not only blogs, but every unpatched site a target. So, the only issue I'm having is forcing us to upgrade to a new major version without much time to do proper testing (I'm not talking about personal blogs here). I...
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- Nikolay Kolev
So Techdirt was hacked a bit ago. See their reaction: http://www.techdirt.com/article... it is the reality of owning a web site guys - ANY software is hackable if someone really wants in.
- Adam Singer
@Robert: as I see it Wordpress is as vulnerable as any other web app. Upgrading does good, but preemptive security does more and better. I know Matt and he knows I'm in awe with him and Automattic but simply spoken I DON'T TRUST WORDPRESS as I don't trust any other software. A little WebApp Security Firewall (or at least a little .htaccess rules for admin and preemptive locking of...
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- Matteo Flora
i find it interesting, and depressing that people are blaming Rackspace, they're blaming Wordpress, they're blaming Robert, but no one, *no one* seems to be willing to blame the only, ONLY people who deserve blame: the evolutionary failures that attacked Robert's blog.
- John C. Welch
Thanks to your post, I found backdoor Admin in my own blog (created yesterday apparently). Promptly deleted it, upgraded blog and took other measures, which I blogged about
- Adi Rabinovich
@Matt Mullenweg: "so staying up to date is a must. - Matt Mullenweg" You gave the birth to one of the coolest piece of free software on the net, also your community is strong an love-full, you can do some PRs listening to Scoble that is crying, but you couldn't do anything better than you did. Take it easy man, all your competitors still suck. (PS. also a cleaning utility to understand better if everything is ok on our hosts would be cool ;-)
- righini riprova
Matt: What does a user need to provide, in order to be considered for a VIP wordpress.com account?
- Jim Connolly
caveat operator
- Mike Chelen
Take technology out of the picture. Something bad happened by some bad person. Happens every day... it's called crime. If a bad person got into my house because I had a weak lock or left my door unlocked, what do people usually say? "That bad person shouldn't have done that!"? Well, sure, but bad people do bad things... nothing we can do to stop them other than make it harder or...
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- Chris Hearn
I would simply like to reiterate the point that if you're going to put free open source software on a rented web server, you need to either know how to administer it or hire someone to do it for you. Neither Rackspace or Wordpress are to blame here. We discuss this with our clients all the time who view web development as a one off expense, then get upset when their site is hacked because it wasn't maintained.
- JP Maxwell
One more point, I think there are way too many false lines drawn over aras of responsibility - "I'm systems, not a PHP programmer. I'm a PHP programmer, not a Javascript person. I'm a designer, not a programmer or a systems person." If you are a WEB developer or responsible for maintaining hosted WEB applications, you need to know a bit about it all. It simply isn't sufficient to demarcate your knowledge sphere and point your finger at the other guy.
- JP Maxwell
Wow !
- ★ Soner Gönül
Which OS (operating system) are you using? (for research purpose)
F. Batuhan Icoz, Cobatra ♘, i80and and 109 other people liked this
Windows 7 ! I love it :)
- Farshad
win. xp
- Müjdat Korkmaz
Ubuntu Jackalope - (I'm an ex-Gentooer, too)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Leopard!
- Piero Tagliapietra
Now xp but usually ubuntu.
- bilge kagan
7 on win, leopard on mac.
- vijay
xp-vista
- Tamkarışık
Osx
- Stefigno
Ubuntu 9.04
- Matteo
şu anda xp ama proje dönemleri dışında ubuntu ve pardus da kullanıyorum..
- ♪♫ halil ♪♫
Tiger
- Andrew Roche
Ubuntu 9.04, the "system" that starts with "W" makes me sick.
- Oskar NRK
windows XP
- 士慷
Right now - iPhone 2.somethinorother. I have OS X 10.5, Windows XP, Windows 7, and Ubuntu 9.04 all at my disposal in the other room.
- Aaron Hood
from BuddyFeed
Windows XP, but only because that is what came on this thing and I'm escared to completely format the drive.
- Joe Pierce
OsX 10.5.6
- ialla
Win7 and Pardus Linux
- Arda Çetin
Windows Vista.
- Alp
Ubuntu 9.04
- Alejandro
Windows 7 RC, of course
- Jemm
Windows Vista at home XP at work
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
XP Pro
- Alfredo
XP at work, Vista at Home
- RAPatton
Vista, OSX and Win7
- Carlos Ayala
xp and slitaz linux
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
XP at work and at home.
- Alex Scoble
xp, OEL at work. Leopard for personal stuff
- Kiran Patchigolla
OS X.
- Parth Awasthi
Work: Ubuntu, OSX. Home: Debian, Vista, OSX
- Steve Lacey
XP, Suse and Fedora
- dstamand
OS X, Mac OS 8, Mac OS 7, WinXP, various Linux
- LogEx
osX, Debian on the server.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
XP on netbook. Ubuntu 9.04, Android, and Windows 7 RC1 in VirtualBox on netbook. Windows 7 on desktop. Vista on work laptop. OSX on Macbook.
- Rodfather
XP
- Dee S.
XP:)
- nursel
OSX.
- Joey Gibson
OS X, XP
- Mike Nayyar
WinXP, sometimes Win7 and Debian in VMs
- bnoise
Vista on one of my laptops, XP on another. 3 other computer at home uses Vista and one more uses XP. We have 8 computers :)
- Svartling
At-this-very-moment: Vista. Today? OSX 10.5, OSX 10.4, Ubuntu 8.something, Windows 7, Windows XP.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Windows 7 but I wish adobe apps could run on ubuntu
- Justin Beausoleil
Windows 7
- Matti Leppänen
XP, Win 7 Beta at home and Win 2003 Server at work.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Vista
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I run XP, OSX, Vista, and Win7
- andy brudtkuhl
XP and Vista.
- Mark H
XP @ home and @ work
- Kim
Right now, Mac OS. A fairly even mix of Windows, Linux, and IOS through the work day today though.
- Andy Bold
linux fedora 10
- eric
win 7
- aykut
ingilizce sormuşsun ,türkçe cevap vermişim :)) yorumları okuyunca farkettim ingilizce sorduğunu ,bir de diyorum ki içimden niye herkes ingilizce cevap vermiş :)
- ♪♫ halil ♪♫
Windows 7
- Michael Fidler
Windows XP
- Nimaa
Linux, Windows 7, and Windows Vista.
- Antony Jepson
ubuntu netbook remix, ubuntu desktop and server, XP in virtualbox (none for research)
- Kevin Cearns
Ubuntu Desktop.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Mac OSX and Windows Vista
- Farzad
XP
- Göksel Şirin
UBuntu RulZ
- Çağatay " SKYLAB " Şama
XP ve pardus...
- Uğur Deligözoğlu
XP
- zeynep
Windows XP
- ercan
Kubuntu
- Ehsanislav
Xubuntu
- Sarah Peterman
Mac OS X
- Bill Scherer
Mac OS X 10.4 and Ubuntu remix on the Aspire One
- Paolo Frattini ⏏ docpap
Windows XP/Vista, Ubuntu Linux, and OpenSolaris.
- Rudy Amid
Mac OS X
- Violet Mae Lim
win7rc
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Leopard, Ubuntu amd64, debian amd64, win7 amd64...
- mjc
Win 7 RC
- BASEnet
Mac, and also running Win 7 in a vm ...
- Patrick Jordan
Vista here and Win 7 beta on the laptop
- Roberto Bonini
Ubuntu, Mac OSX 10.5, XP & Vista
- Alastair Montgomery
DOS 2.9
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
Mac OS X, Windows 7 RC
- Christoph Studer
backtrack, pclinuxos, fedora
- bob
Windows CE (6.1), Win XP, Ubuntu Linux.
- Ferhad Fidan
from fftogo
Vista
- Ahmet Sinan Yavuz
Windows 7 and i like it...
- Semih Masat ™
up
- Nimaa
Kubuntu/XP (desktop), Ubuntu (laptop), OSX (laptop)
- Mark Philpot
UBUNTU
- ™یک بابک
OSX
- Jason
OSX
- AJ Kohn
OS X
- Simon Wicks
linux - Ubuntu 8.10
- Simone Biagiotti
Windows XP
- Jack DeWitt Smith
winbloze pissed-ah (home premium)
- Jim Hearts FF
Widows 7 :)
- Serkan Cura (XiLoNeN)
xp at work, vista and 7 at home, apple notebook. Windows CE on my phone, and I have an Ipod. Right now I am on XP, later on tonight I'll be on 7 and Apple.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dual-booted ubuntu and Win XP on the desktop. On the laptop is Ubuntu. I'm running Jaunty right now on both.
- Amy H.
Ubuntu, Jaunty Jackalope.
- Steven Perez
from fftogo
Mac OS X
- Batu
Windows XP and Ubuntu
- Tanju Yildiz
XP/Win7 dual-boot and (obsolete XP)-Ubuntu dual boot on my laptop
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Windows 7, Vista, and OS X :)
- Spencer
winXP sp3
- Orçun İlbeyli aka Nucro
Ubuntu, CentOS, Windows XP, Mac OSX
- Jay Cuthrell
WinXP SP3 & Ubuntu 9.04
- Ricardo Vidal
One Ubuntu 9.04 32-bit, one Vista Enterprise SP1 64-bit
- Andy Kruger
Running Mac OS X 10.5.6 on a 2004 PowerBook 12" G4 - Have 10.5.6 on a Mac Mini, and MacBook as well
- Pilgrim Five
OS X 10.5.6 on my Mac Pro. OS X 10.6 on my MacBook. VMware ESX 3.5 with multiple VMs running Windows Server 2008 R2 RC, Windows 7 RC, FreeBSD 6.2 & 7.0 and FreeNAS 0.69. FreeBSD 7.2 on my colocation server.
- Peter Kruit
Arch Linux at this precise moment.
- Michael McKean
Windows 7 RC
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
OS X 10.5.6 and Windows 7
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Windows XP (tweaked), due to some restrictions. Otherwise definitely Windows 7!!
- Praveen Vasudev
WinXP
- Angga Satria
Mac OS X 10.4
- Brian Hendrickson
Win XP
- Brent - Long Live Rock
Ubuntu
- Bruce Lewis
Windows 7
- Alan Le
Mac OS X.something. 5? The latest one anyway.
- Deborah Fitchett
Not sure how this could be remotely useful. Windows 7 with a Windows 2003 server VPC open
- Paul Whitaker
Windows Vista.
- Daniel Rowley
Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
- Faraz Mullick
osx
- Leo
ubuntu 9.04 and Vista
- Bluesun 2600
XP SP2 (But I've got the windows7 iso downloaded, just need some time to install it
- Glenn Slaven
XP primarily, but also a Mac Mini for studio work and dual-boot LInux on the XP machine
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
OSX
- Naor Mark
Windows XP
- Anton
Now @work-Vista. At home-Vista, XP, Ubuntu, OS X.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
both laptop and desktop: windows XP
- ohke
Work = XP, home = Vista64 running VMWare server, running CentOS, and another system running Windows 7
- kevin
home: XP work: XP and OSX
- browneyes
iPhone 2.2.1
- Phil Maxwell
Windows 7, but I boot Ubuntu off my jump drive.
- Mike Vierow
iPhone 2.2.1
- David Owens
XP
- Chieze Okoye
Main box is OSX, laptop is Ubuntu Linux.
- Neal Jansons
Primary OS: OSX 10.4.11. Secondary OS: WinXP SP3 (in a Parallels 4 VM)
- Thunderwing
from Nambu
Mac OS X 10.5.6 & XP
- Jeffrey Marsh
Windows Vista and Windows Mobile 6.1
- David Cook
Let's see..computer #1; Windows Vista , Computer #2; Custom Windows Vista , Computer #3; Windows XP, Computer #4; Mac...something or other. I never use the Mac.
- Candace
Tiger. I think XP at work ... not sure.
- Laura Norvig
مک ۱۰.۵.۶
- مهدی یحیی
XP
- Bryan R. Adams
Wow, a lot of XP people! My advice: upgrade to 7 ASAP
- Kirill Petrovsky
Ubuntu GNU/Linux 9.04, Windows Vista 32Bit, Windows XP, Android.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Windows 7 RC
- Tony, Paradox of FF
win7
- getalifejerk
Windows XP
- Andrew Kharook
all 14-15 ubuntu except for 1 lone vista
- John Serra
TO many win xp users :) Though does virtualized o's count? :) Primarily Jaunty 9.04 but also have a previous windows server 2003 setup. @donor why upgrade to windows 7 at all look at the open source possibilities :)
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
Suse Linux
- Pierre Lindenbaum
Ubuntu 9.04, work and home.
- Neil Saunders
Linux (netbook, desktop and laptop computers)
- Miroku
win xp mce sp3. my other pc with linux on it is on leave atm
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Ubuntu 9.04 - both on desktop and on netbook.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Leopard, Windows 7, and Ubuntu 9.04
- Brandon Titus
OS X
- Steve Sill
osX & windows7
- Necdet (nec) Terkes
@Alp: Windows Xp but planed to move to ubunto
- Mostafa Lameei
OS X. Windows Vista, 7 and Fedora on it with VMware Fusion
- hiro
OS X
- Mona Nomura
OS X
- Bren, Photophobe
Windows XP
- Justin Korn
WinXP at work, OS X at home
- Philip Lei
OS X and XP through VM
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
xp,ubuntu
- junrxu
Mac OS X
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
xp and ubuntu
- Cristian
Ubuntu Linux of course : >
- Adval
Windows Vista
- Kristian Salonen
EEEPC 900 Pardus, Toshiba A210-19D Win 7(vista upgrade), Desktop PC Win XP
- Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik
Windows Vista, but with many RDP sessions to Windows 2008 servers where I do most of my work.
- Pete Gilbert
OSX 10.5.6, Win7 and iPhone OS(X) 3.0.
- Thomas Bøhm
OSX 10.5.6 on 5 machines and I think we still have an Amiga 500 in the loft. Oh and an Acorn Electron. But we don't use those last two. Much. There are also a couple of XP machines gathering dust in the garage.
- Gilbert Harding
Windows 7 as of today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
In this order: Osx86, Ubuntu, Win7, Vista
- Neill Adamson
Mac OS X, Ubuntu 9.04, Kubuntu & Windows XP. Windows 7 is waiting to setup. :)
- doruk tokçabalaban
from Posty
Mac OS X (Leopard)
- Paul Jacobson
Windows 7
- Kris
Xp Tablet Pc Edition with my Tablet Pc & Vista with my Office PC
- Can Eğridere "Jegraphy"
Win XP and have just installed Ubuntu 9.04 in dual boot through wubi, but am not using it much.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Ubuntu linux with Gnome.
- Marco Bonomo <radel>
Vista, Ubuntu, FreeBSD
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Win 7 :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
XP at work, Ubuntu 9.04 at home
- Warren Butler
W7 RC, XP SP3, many flavors of linux. screw the mac os. I'm moving away from MacOS for coding/development. HATE DRM'd HW too. I will NOT be buying another product from Apple for a LONG LONG time I think.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Ubuntu 9.04 at work, Arch Linux at home, Windows XP on both laptops. Planning on upgrading to Win7 on the 'tops.
- Daniel Bruce
windows vista
- Seltoon
windows XP & ubuntu linux
- yagami
Ubuntu and very rarely Vista
- Jim Braux-Zin
Os X 10.5.6
- Ingriddina⁂
vista - but how is this for research purposes? what are the research questions? What are the null hypotheses?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I have one PC with Win XP and Linux for home. One Macbook with Leopard for work...
- Erica - Mystiria
Apple MacOS X 10.5 & MS WinXP Pro SP2
- Mackley ॐ
Primarily OS X (10.5) and Win XP SP3, but also have ubuntu & Win 7 installed via Parallels
- Robert DeBord
at work and on my netbook linux. on my desktop i have vista business 64 (needed for some school tasks)
- Andrei Savu
OS X Leopard and Win 7
- Al Degutis
cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 9.04
- Ahmed Mubbashir Khan
Mac OS 10.5. XP at work.
- Rowan Evenstar
windows xp
- Nilesh
ubuntu 9.04
- Engin Yazılan
Windows 7 RC, virtualised ubuntu 9.04
- Andy
OS X 10.5.6
- Mitchell Tsai
Windows 7
- F. Batuhan Icoz
win xp 64, ubuntu 9.04
- Chris Hofmann
OSX 10.5.6, Vista, XP, & RedHat 4 WS
- clarke thomas
XP at work, and Ubuntu on my own machine
- embee
OS X Leopard, Arch Linux, Ubuntu (range from gutsy to jaunty), XP, Vista, Windows 7 - yes I have way too many computers :)
- timepilot
linux, its a swiss knife for programming issues
- Hüseyin Oğuz ALBAYRAK
At home, Vista laptop + Gentoo server
- James Myatt
XP, but I miss Win98SE. Loved it. Would like to explore Linux. btw, I have an old Mac that works if anyone's a collector. Pay UPS (or whatever you choose) shipping and it's yours. DM me or email me @ infolode.com@gmail.com Keyboard, mouse, unit all there and working last time I booted it up.
- Molly
OS X, Ubuntu
- Jan Erik Moström
Windows Vista, Ubuntu, and OS X
- nfan12
Mac OS X 10.5.6 & Windows XP
- Tommaso
XP
- Mathew A. Koeneker
XP at work. Mac OS X at home.
- Rutger Blom
XP
- stark
OS X, but have XP loaded for Quicken
- Kelly W.
OS X on my Laptop, dual booting XP, Ubuntu Linux on my server, Android on my phone. :D
- Evan Travers
was quad booting osX 10.5.3, win vista, slackware linux, and backtrak3. and I just wiped and installed windows 7. and in a few months I will reinstall Slackware.
- Charles Rice
Jaunty Jackalope Ubuntu 9.04 with customized staff desktop menu (on work's laptop) - home still running Ubuntu but not Jaunty think it's still on 8 something
- Mlibrarianus
ubuntu(laptop) + opensuse(for office) + leopard(mini) + xp(ie)
- dogan kaya berktas
Windows XP, Ubuntu 9, MacOS 10.5
- Anand Sharma
Home - Win Vista/Ubuntu (laptop) Win XP/Win 7 (desktop) Work - Win XP, Server 2003,
- Charles Dick
Ubuntu. I can't stand windows.
- Josef Davies-Coates
Ubuntu too (Jaunty)
- howard shippin
windows, pardus
- Gizem B
Windows 7 RC Turkish
- Adnan Taşkıran
OS X 10.5.6
- david medina
W2K - Windows 2000 pro. It does all I need. Next will be some *nix + virtual machines.
- Markus Merz
Windows XP (upgraded from Windows Vista)
- Brian Massey
OS X Leopard with virtualized XP, plus a Vista box.
- Eric P
XP home and work - Could someone (Alp?) please turn this into a graph/chart of some form - would be really interesting to see this given the data in thus far.
- Graham Steel
windows vista
- Tahmina Ghani
OS X no windows in site
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
ubuntu 9.04 and vista dual boot
- Gaurav Bansode
OS X Leopard. It's the only way to fly. ;)
- Meryn Stol
Windows. I want to use Linux but not without a dedicated hard drive for it. I am not ever installing a boot loader on my primary hard disk's MBR again.
- Zed Darkman
XP and OSX Leopard, both home and work
- Sean O'Brien
Kubuntu 9.04
- Grant Bierman
XP, Vista and OSX
- Nicholas James
OSX (mainly), Linux (various distros)
- John Collis
vista home basic, vista home premium, gentoo linux, ubuntu, OSX
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Win7 and XP. Still some of my OLD stuff won't run on 7.
- David Slater
Mac OS
- Kevin Pedraja
We collected really good data. I hope we can collect more and then I will share results with you.
- Alp
I hope you share the results.. that's a very ambiguous survey. :P
- Michael McKean
apple osx
- cysko
Leopard
- Vincent van Wylick
Will you also publish the results on your blog or so?
- Vincent van Wylick
Right now, Android (linux-based). Once I get home, Ubuntu (9.04). At work, OSX 10.5 & Ubuntu.
- Andrew Perry
windows 7
- Ahmet Ercan
Easy Peasy 1.1, a customized Ubuntu with the netbook-remix interface
- Andrew Currie
Work - XP, Home - OSX Leopard or XP (on my wife's netbook)
- mark
right now vista or 7 ... but mostly osx
- Julian Lukács
Now, Ubuntu 9.04
- Krishnamoorthy
7RC...rather impressed
- Kevin Pruett
Thanks :)
- Alp
desktop: ubuntu & server:centOS
- Murat Küçükosman
XP home edition & ubuntu 8.04
- Reza
XP and ubuntu
- ümid urmuli
Xp and Windows 7
- Roberto Bonini
xp and symbian os
- Orçun İlbeyli aka Nucro
DEBIAN!
- k00pa
Vista and WMobile 6.0
- Kaan Şengül
mac
- sean808080
OS X
- Giovanni Piller Cottrer
Home PC #1- Win 7, Home PC #2 - Ubuntu, home server - Debian, corporate notebook - WinXP.
- Один дяденька
Pardus 2009
- F. Batuhan Icoz
Interesting that this comes up to the top again. Now I'm using OS X 10.5.7, funtoo (instead of gentoo), Ubuntu, Win7(rc), and the Vista that will not die. and about to try OSx86. :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
xp and win7
- Muhammet K. (oceangray)
Mainly Fedora. Sometimes Ubuntu.
- Hassan Ibraheem
OS X
- Лучше не знать
OS X Leopard
- Nick Humphries
windows xp, i'm ...use to it...
- Dragos Danescu
fistaa
- Kenan Rauf Kurt
ubuntu n' also Xp
- Emre 'lowrider' Savaş
fedora 11 and windows xp modified
- Ahmet Soyata
You should have made a poll. :P
- Logan Lindquist
from twhirl
OSX on daily basis with some ubuntu on occaison
- Logan Lindquist
from twhirl
z/OS @work, Windows XP @home
- Semra Arslan
windows 7
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
Windows 7, too.
- Alp
Mac OS X
- Ronald Hahm
windows 7RC most of the time,xp when my kid play games :D
- misca mihaela
Linux Mint Gloria most of the time at home. Windows Vista Business 64-bit at work.
- Curtiss Grymala
MacOSX 10.5.7
- Kirk Fontaine
Mac OS X 10.5.7
- Adnan Uludağ
Mac OS X 10.5.8
- Parvez Halim
Ubuntu Linux on my personal laptop, work desktop, home server, and my VPS. I'm running Debian Linux on the many thousand servers I help manage at work.
- Travis B. Hartwell
Windows 7
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Slackware -current on my main machine, and Slackware 12.2 on my printserver.
- i80and
Still on XP Pro SP3, I love it's
- Cobatra ♘
OS X Leopard on MacBook Pro and Ubuntu 9.04 on HP Mini netbook
- Travis Smith
I want - http://fit-pc2.com/wiki...
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"Introducing fit-PC2 CompuLab introduces fit-PC2 – the smallest, most power-efficient Intel Atom PC to date. fit-PC2 architecture is what sets it apart from other nettop PCs - fit-PC2 is designed around the Intel Atom Z530 1.6GHz and the ultra low power Intel US15W system controller hub, rather than the Atom N270 and 945G used in other nettop-PCs, thereby reducing power consumption by more than two thirds. US15W incorporates hardware video acceleration. This allows fit-PC2 to run Windows XP or Ubuntu Linux at just 6W and to play full HD 1080p H.264 video using less than 7W."
- Leo Laporte
from Bookmarklet
some limitations of the fit2pc: no n wifi, only 1gb ram & is soldered, reader is not sdhc, no wol, hdmi still needs sep audio line. if it could remedy those, then it would be more awesome than i originally thought it was. still cool idea. (edited to add: forums say hdmi does not support hdcp. boy, lots of surprises in what it *can't* do. almost a parody of an 'efficient' device.)
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Got error when clicked the link. Actually I thought I could show the screenshot, but ff can not add images to comments.
- Nitin Nanivadekar
Where and when can we buy this ??
- Qbat
Very nice
- Amit Morson
as sweet as a purring kitten
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
awesome. when do they start production?
- Chris Rutili
from BuddyFeed
And here I was waiting for netbooks to get better performance and instead we see the same low performance spreading from the mobile world, where it made sense, to our desks. Crud. It's nice that it's got low power requirements, but that seems to be it.
- Henrik
When do they start building the computer into the keyboard?
- Brian Sieker
I need a small, very low power consumption system with two ethernet ports to replace a home server. The fit-PC2 is so tantalizingly close; I'd have to add a USB ethernet dongle, and those are teh suck.
- DGentry
"Want" is a serious understatement. I could do some evil, evil things with that!
- ax0n
Very sexy! I can imagine having three or four of these with SSDs around my house.
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
With more HDMI ports and built-in blu-ray this would be an excellent choice for HTPC. Here's a better link to the data sheet http://www.compulab.co.il/fitpc2...
- jcunwired
For the right (low) price, even with it's flaws it could be a great little media server. And here I was wishing upon an eee-box-star.
- thepete
sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq: Thanks for those helpful pieces of info. Please consider using punctuation and capitalization in the future. I know it's not cool, but it serves a purpose (e.g. it helps knowledge transfer, the supposed reason for commenting in the first place) :P.
- coldbrew
I want this as well.
- Doug Slater
they should sell them in multipacks
- Matthew Snape
I doubt that 1080p H.264. is watchable. Need some proof. It would be a key factor for me.
- Dmitriy B
Umm, to watch HDTV Sat, you need 3GHZ Dual-Core and a good graphic card. That's the minimum requirements for most of the sat-cards or usb-boxes. I don't think you can play FULL-HD with a Atom 1.6 GHZ, unless it uses some kind of hardware acceleration. More info ?
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
coldbrew, are you from Germany?
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
I want one of these.
- Robert Gregory Browne
The newer boards use a dual-core Atom and NVidia 9400M chipset. Even has CUDA support. I believe it could decode 1080p. http://mini-itx.com/2009...
- Rodfather
Looks great. I want also. I'll wait for Windows 7.
- Scott Kraatz
Smaller than a MacMini. I'll wait for Windows 7 too.
- Randy Caldwell
I'd love to attach this to the back of a monitor and hang it on a wall
- Camden
Brian Sieker: Asus already started stuffing the whole pc inside a (nice looking) keyboard, take a look at the Eee Keyboard http://gizmodo.com/5124985...
- Rui Pires
Amazing!
- Eren Öğrül
I wonder how well this will run Boxee.. Is it the perfect boxee box?
- raf
I'm always skeptical about the 1080P claims for nettops.
- Ryan Whitwam
Which do you guys prefer? "TweetDeck" or "Twhirl" - Would love your input :o)
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Twhirl.
- Sharon McPherson
Tweetdeck...love the columns
- mark
Of those two: Tweetdeck. Otherwise Nambu or Tweetie.
- Greg Lexiphanic
twhirl
- Dave "Freedom 35"
I've been using Twhirl - i like it, however there's so much hype on Tweetdeck these days, thinking of switching - does Tweetdeck give more? my appreciation!
- Aline Ohannessian
Tweedeck. I just want it to handle multiple accounts.
- Neal Jansons
Tweet deck is great if you have a large or extra screen, but Twhirl works better on a smaller screen
- Kim Landwehr
Twhirl
- © b e e n s w a n k
If you're looking for simplicity, stick with twhirl, if you want more features, like Mark mentioned, columns and being able to place peeps into groups, go with Tweet deck. Plus, what Kim Landwehr said.
- Sharon McPherson
neither
- TheHenry
You guys are AWESOME! truly appreciate your thoughts !!!!
- Aline Ohannessian
Twirl. Tweetdeck takes up too much real estate on my netbook.
- Helen Sventitsky
Aline: I've been using seesmic for the past few days, really liking it, except no integration with FriendFeed, yet.
- Sharon McPherson
Seesmic is pretty nice as well. You get multiple columns like Tweetdeck, but can manage multiple accounts like Twhirl. Only thing I didn't like about it is that you can't filter tweets in a column like you can with Tweetdeck
- mark
Oh yeah, and what Sharon said...there's currently no Facebook integration w/ Seesmic (IMO, a huge plus for Tweetdeck)
- mark
Seesmic is good, but until it has @username autocomplete I can't deal with it. Also a bit buggy.
- Neal Jansons
from IM
of course tweetdeck.. also these 2 are not comparable ..
- Ruhani Rabin
neither. peoplebrowsr (use in lite mode to start for simplicity) much more powerful that tweetdeck seesmic or twhirl, and runs a lot faster too
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I agree with guruvan, if you want to use a web app, peoplebrowsr is the best so far. A friend of mine made a video a few weeks ago giving some starter tips for peoplebrowsr. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Sharon McPherson
peoplebrowsr comes in an air app as well - I do highly recommend new users try the lite mode first, and then move up to the business or advance modes. it's extremely feature-rich. and is very mature for an Alpha-stage product. Better than most late-stage beta products IMO
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
neither one http://tweetgrid.com web based
- Wayne Sutton
Twhirl. But when I want to track something, e.g. H1N1 etc. , TweetDeck wins!
- LeON
Neither.
- LANjackal
Twhirl.
- Iván Abrego
I love Tweetdeck on my widescreen, I can fit so many columns. Plus you can organize your groups better.
- Faraz Mullick
Went from Thwirl to TweetDeck, never went back. As they say: 'once you go Deck, you never go back'.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I'm undecided, switching all the time. Also like DestroyTwitter and Seesmic
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Tweetdeck has features I like, so I'm using it at present. Twirl receives positive ratings, I'll take a look...
- Nicholas Chase
Prefer Tweetdeck, but I'am using Tweetie for mac most of the time now...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Tweetdeck
- Roberto Bonini
Tweetdeck by far...its more organized, there is also Seesmic Desktop ;)
- Ahmed
For Twitter? Neither. I use Tweetvisor. I use Twhirl for FriendFeed but it's pretty poor atm. Let's hope Seesmic Desktop supports FriendFeed properly. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Uh, Kol, you misspelt Twitter as titter :)
- Roberto Bonini
twhirl ...it's simple~I like~~~
- ybs
Twhirl ... it's brilliant when you have two or more Twitter accounts
- Suzanne Male/Smink Works
Both. I'm too lazy to sync TweetDeck between my work laptop and netbook. ;)
- Rommel C. Caibal
from Nambu
TweetDeck
- Holger Eilhard
Tweetdech - but Seesmic desktop is getting better
- Erno Hannink
I have both but very rarely use them
- M F
very simple.. if u have less than 400 followers/follows u can use twhirl .. otherwise the only possible tool is tweetdeck .. until seesmic added more features and usability...
- Ruhani Rabin
I like peoplebrowsr for similar reasons: it supports twitter, friendfeed, facebook, identi.ca and ping.fm for posting, and a plethora of sites for reading (digg, myspace, youtube, seesmic, photobucket, flickr, plaxo, RSS, and random URLs)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I use twhirl for FF action and Tweetdeck for twitter only, tweetdeck is used for the grouping and column options as well as the added facebook status feature.
- Charles Rice
I use TweetDeck on my desktop and Twidroid on my G1 phone.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
TweetDeck - the Twhirl/Seesmic Desktop UI just doesn't appeal to me
- Nathan Chase
TweetDeck does it for me
- nesman89
TweetDeck
- Sabina
Twhirl - I love the 'ping on reply only' feature. And the optional integration of search results into the main stream is also awesome.
- Markus Merz
TweetDeck at the moment on my main machine! Twhirl/Seesmic is improving! I m trying Tweetie on my MacBook! I love Tweetie on the iPhone :)
- Frank Da Silva
tweetdeck
- anna sauce
Roberto, thank you and edited. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Tweetdeck for me :)
- Matthew Marley
Tweetdeck here!
- Martin Bryant
Tweetdeck but I sure wish it supported multiple accounts.
- jcunwired
Tweetdeck
- Nicholas James
Seesmic Desktop...it's Twhirl's Daddy!
- SalvadorM
PeopleBrowsr seems the most promising - it used to crash on me when I tried it... anyone know if it has improved recently? Otherwise, I like Seismic Desktop
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer: PeopleBrowsr is quite stable and very snappy now. There are still a few bugs in it (it's still alpha, v.0.999 last one) should be beta very shortly. I use it everyday, all day. I'm currently running about 25 stacks in it, too.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Time for me to try out PeopleBrowsr again!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Yep! I'm really happy with it, especially with the 3 modes of operation, and the settable color themes.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'm a Tweetdeck convert from Twhirl. I like that I can make as many columns as I like, which really comes in handy for making sure I don't miss my girlfriend's tweets...and then consequently hearing about it later. LOL
- Carlton Hackett
Seesmic.
- Roshni
Tweetdeck for the groups and columns, but I'm trying out Nambu this week. Haven't decided which of the two I prefer yet.
- Carmen
I've used both but my current fave is Seesmic Desktop.
- Tim Kissane
I use both because I have multiple twitter accounts. if tweetdeck supported multiple accounts, I'd use it exclusively
- Andrea Hill
Actually, I use the new Twhirl, Seesmic Desktop. On Windows only though. Gwibber FTW on Ubuntu.
- Amy H.
i'm liking the "peoplebrowser" and "seesmic" some of you mentioned herein - thanks for enlightening me to applications - Blessings :)
- Aline Ohannessian
seesmic was too slow for my taste, columns too wide, and so on. I'm looking for large amounts of data, and peoplebrowsr is the only solution in that regard. Tweetdeck is limited to 10 columns, and I have about 30 in my peoplebrowsr
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
1) browser with scripts 2) Twhirl 3) Tweetdeck
- Michael Fidler
twhirl with a "t" and not a "T".
- Swaroop
Neither. I use the webs and tabbed browsing. LOL. Looking at Flock as an option.
- Justin Whitaker
@Justin Whitaker: Flock is a great browser for everything we're talking about herein - you can pretty much bring in Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Gmail, Yahoo, Digg, (there's more i'm sure i'm forgetting) as well as your own Blog's feed - the only thing with Flock is that it's a little slow - but i recommend it :o)
- Aline Ohannessian
I'm using both, what dose that say?
- Jason Remnant
from twhirl
I am using TweetDeck and started experimenting with Seesmic Desktop.Yesterday Seesmic Desktop send an upgrade and now it does not work. I am going to try to reload software. I am pretty happy with TweetDeck because it is stable and was enjoying Seesmic till stopped working.
- Jose Luis Santos
I was playing with streamy.com yesterday-that looks to be another all in one option. Other than the OPML feeds not importing yet, it's really slick.
- Justin Whitaker
TheStar.com | Movies | Star Trek vanquishes Star Wars - http://www.thestar.com/article...
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"But what's more interesting for long-time sci-fi fans is that, at this moment, Star Trek is absolutely, most definitely, cooler than Star Wars."
- Rui Pereira
from Bookmarklet
I don't think I can ever concede that Star Trek is cooler than Star Wars...my DNA just won't allow it!
- Carlton Hackett
Always Has Been.
- Leo Laporte
Its ok Carlton, Trekkies forgive you
- Brent - Long Live Rock
There is nothing 'cool' about sci fi fandom. If you are a fan of either I.P., you are geekish. Might as well accept the idea. Now, having said that, Star Trek is nothing but the red-headed stepchild of Star Wars.
- Fleagle
Stepchild with a time machine. I'm sure the Trek predates the Wars. Besides, comparing the two in any way is like comparing, oh, I dunno, 2001 with, er, Space:1999. Well, not quite, but you get my point.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Star Trek is, or at least was, science fiction and Star Wars has always been Space Opera, basically an adventure serial in space. They're completely different and absolutely lovely. And the Star Wars prequels are good movies. There, I said it. Now no one will take me seriously.
- Henrik
Total bait title. I agree though. Trek has always been meatier than Wars
- Mo Kargas
I'm pretty sure Star Wars isn't science fact (unless that galaxy far, far away really did exist), so yes, it's very much science fiction.
- Fleagle
saw the movie to day in georgia realy liked it
- daveccorey
@Henrik- that's exactly how I feel about them. Star Trek is like the CSI version of Sci-Fi, while Star Wars is like the Law & Order of Sci-Fi/Space Opera. They're appealing for different reasons, one cerebral and one adrenal.
- Carlton Hackett
"There is nothing 'cool' about sci fi fandom. If you are a fan of either I.P., you are geekish. Might as well accept the idea." That's one of the most failed attempts at insulting a group I've heard in a while. Geek IS the new Cool. If you're not a geek these days, you're not very cool. And you can't be a real geek unless you have at least SOME affinity for science fiction. The heyday of geeks being the under-class is over. At least for anyone past high-school.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Geeks shall inherit the earth. They laughed at us for computers, IM, mobile tech...WHO'S LAUGHING NOW! Geeks are the ones to follow for the latest anything.
- Mo Kargas
++++LINDSAY!!!
- Carlton Hackett
Deep Space Nine. That is all.
- Bwana ☠
I am a fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars, and found this to be a far superior "prequel" film. Unlike the Star Wars prequels, Star Trek actually took the time to make a nod to its predecessor by including Leonard Nimoy as the "future Spock".
- Thomas Ward
I don't even like scifi movies and I thought Star Trek was terrific. Definitely has potential for future films too.
- Al Stevens
The season finale of House was phenomenal! - http://www.tv.com/House...
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We thought it was good too! But I didn't realize it was the finale until your post. Darn it. :)
- Louis Gray
I'm kind of behind on House, better catch up then.... Thanx for the heads up
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Never got into House, but then I've never given it the chance either. Got enough of my plate with The Wire and a mulitude of other sins with respect to my TV consumption
- Ed Richardson
I havent even started watching the current season yet. :)
- Roberto Bonini
I have to watch it again - got a little confused at the end
- BEX
<puts fingers in ears> Will be watching tonight
- James Myatt
whoa, does the main actor guy in that photo not look kind of like lars rasmussen?
- ௸ (k2g)
Yeah, pretty damn good. Amazing twist ending.
- Blake
I liked it as well. Next season should be interesting.
- Richard
I hated it, I've been a big fan of house but this last series of episodes didn't work for me
- Richard Lawler
I noticed that the diagnoses are not repeated...
- DeepheaD
I thought the finale was great. Liked the juxtaposition. Can't wait for this and Fringe!
- Justin Whitaker
Live now: MacBreak Weekly with Andy Ihnatko, Alex Lindsay, and Don McAllister. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
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Me first
- johnny
Don made quite a trek to be there, it seems.
- Brett Kelly
second that emotion
- earl wallace
Screencast online is in pentaluma!
- americanm
do you add a comment here to participate in the chat room? (new to FF conversations)
- Robert DeLaurentis
how do I create a page where this chats post box is always at the bottom?
- earl wallace
I'm setting it up (virtualbox) now for a lab of os x machines
- Chuck Adams
this is separate from the IRC chat
- Tendonitis' Bitch
yes it is, there is also a way to view this chat where it is listed alone, not also among past chat listings
- earl wallace
Hi. Good stuff! Thanks!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I never did the IRC chat, just the Stickam chat - I guess I'm asking if the comment stream here is roughly equiv to the old Stickam chat.
- Robert DeLaurentis
Can we have a Macbreak Weakly Karaoke contest? with Andy as the MC?
- americanm
Haha ditto! New segment of MBW should be karaoke
- iGerard
go, Thanks Leo!
- Robert DeLaurentis
Hi Don!
- Steve Stanger
hello
- Matthew
Howdy
- Robert Phares
Andy in glitter!
- Christopher Dannug
Just not here, not now!
- Mike Getz
Forever in Blue Jeans!!
- Jim Erickson
Am really hoping for a Mac tablet, hopefully A4 sized!
- Najeeb Mirza
Andy and Leo should do ROBERTA FLACK & DONNY HATHAWAY!
- Shannon Burns
ah, welcome distractions while at work
- Seth Brower
Turn on your heartlight
- Chuck Adams
No glitter for Andy until friday!
- Brett Kelly
Don's mic seems a bit on the low side
- Tarun Chachra
Andy needs to glitter up those burns!
- Chris Gardner
volume is low....Andy and Leo are clear
- Tarun Chachra
First time on FriendFeed as well
- Chris
Glitter and Karaoke? Sign me up.
- Lucavex Ayanami
This works great. Much nicer interface than previous chats.
- Robert DeLaurentis
Hey Don!
- Chris
it's funny seeing you guys for real, long time listener, first time watcher ;)
- Zef Hemel
Hi guys... First time watching the show live.
- Donnie Rey Marquez
Knowing about how to click on the 0 Seconds link is the secret
- Robert DeLaurentis
break out the wine and lets rock
- Elliott Kieff
Yo Don, Where's iJustine?
- Mike Getz
Nice swipe
- Jim Erickson
the volume efx is too low
- Robert DeLaurentis
Leo, I don't think the jingles are coming through the stream.
- Jim Erickson
What is the 0 second link secret?
- Ricky Steven Isbell
Needs more dice transitions.
- Lucavex Ayanami
Ricky - When you go to http://friendfeed.com/twit-co..., clicking on the ## Seconds link in the top item opens the conversation in a single window
- Robert DeLaurentis
I like the Jumbo Jet transition.
- Chris Gardner
dang.. my first ibook was 600 mhz
- Chuck Adams
BOL live wrapping up. Switching to MBKW live. Unique experience, this live thing.
- Bruce Himmelblau
Love the Show!
- americanm
Ah, click on the "Seconds Ago" link in the single window opens an even more svelte single window. Very minimal, very quick.
- Robert DeLaurentis
that's a *really* good point about the camera being hosed by a seemingly simple drop of the device.
- Brett Kelly
I've dropped my htc touch a dozen times and still going strong.
- Chris Gardner
I am a new iPhone app developer and I am giving out 5 promo codes (ATE9P4NXMJPW, TX7KN66H7TTF, W4RFAALAK333, 49F6KFEKXR7P, EKTTAJJXJ9HJ) to try my first app. See demo here http://www.nidoapps.com Please write a review on iTunes and pass the word along. For those who don't get the promo my app is only $0.99 USD. http://bit.ly/emNTG
- NidoApps
I sure would like a Google Voice invite (:
- earl wallace
Shameless advertising on a friendfeed comment thread? Say it ain't so!
- Lucavex Ayanami
I drop my Treo daily still working too (dammit)
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Earl.. I've had a grandcentral account for ages and i'm still not upgraded
- Chuck Adams
thanks Chuck it soothes my spoiled early adopters heart lol
- earl wallace
how does that block thing work on FF again?
- Tendonitis' Bitch
it's crazy, i'm a sucker for every new service that comes out
- Chuck Adams
nevermind found it
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Yea I like this...
- Robert Phares
Hey guys
- Scott Johnson
Hey Leo, dont forget it looks like the much anticipated Slingplayer is coming out tonight for the iPhone, WIFI only!
- Ricky Steven Isbell
Is there going to be a quad core put in the Macbook pro?
- Elliott Kieff
My wife tried to rent the Apple store in Pasadena for my 40th birthday party.. the Manager was so surprised that she was stumped for a reply..
- Gautam Godse
Gunny can one block just one member in chat. Let me know where you find it
- earl wallace
Hey guys, there's a rumor too with the MBP going quad-core. Leo, buy a MBP! link - http://bit.ly/HnLVF
- iGerard
Peggle is out now!
- Ricky Steven Isbell
earl, right click on the person you want to block then choose open in new window
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Yay another dice transition!
- Lucavex Ayanami
then click block this user
- Tendonitis' Bitch
chat
- Tendonitis' Bitch
then refresh the chat
- Tendonitis' Bitch
lol thanks Gunny!
- earl wallace
it's like the spam doesnt exist
- Tendonitis' Bitch
think about it, the Apple Store is great for a party - it has a Genius bar to serve drinks and a screen to play slideshows, piped music and tables for food.. nice.. too bad they said no..
- Gautam Godse
we haz no apple store here nearest one is 100 miles away
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Apple HATES the Southeastern US
- Tendonitis' Bitch
:D
- Tendonitis' Bitch
i'm with you there Gunny. Closest is in Louisville more than a 3.5 hr drive away.
- Chuck Adams
Gunny, you need to move. :)
- Mike Getz
Our closest is 2 hours away. Unless you drive >100mph
- Scott Johnson
I live in a metro area we need an apple store here
- Tendonitis' Bitch
That's why God created store.apple.com ~.^
- Scott Johnson
No sound Leo
- Jim Erickson
We're finally getting a store next Saturday
- Robert DeLaurentis
sound isnt coming over the feed
- brad
Video sound is not coming through.
- Jim Erickson
I think the Mac mediapad/tablet or whatever is vaporware. Alex has been touting it for the last two years. I don't think it'll happen. At least not yet. I could be wrong.
- Mikael Johansson
Well, an hour away instead of three
- Robert DeLaurentis
What happens when your Zune Pass expires?
- Jim Erickson
The G1 is in the UK on T Mobile
- Sam Rhymes
Windows is getting desperate
- Scott Johnson
Bethesda, MD and I can walk to one on my lunch break. They actuaaly just expanded and moved across the street.
- Mike Getz
i've gotta move
- Chuck Adams
Darn I'm late!
- Bwana ☠
my first ipod was full just from my old cd collection.
- Benjamin
Spotify, and they are doing an iPhone app.
- blacklight
Haven't missed too much, Bwana ^^
- Scott Johnson
No need to buy a Zune. Get rhapsody & you can use all sorts of hardware
- pbombach
For for simple music storage, and maybe some video a Zune is a good buy. <ducking>
- Nick O
Yay Zune bashing! ;-)
- Bwana ☠
Zune phone rumor I presume?
- Bwana ☠
After getting the ipod, you realize what quality is
- Scott Johnson
been wanting to get a sansa clip for some time
- Matthew
I wouldn't mind trying a sandisk player with a removable card
- Scott Johnson
Is the ipod player on the Iphone not a replacement for buying an ipod?
- earl wallace
Sony video walkman is nice too.
- pbombach
It just feels like throwing the money away to me.
- blacklight
Rhapsody to go is $15/month. Can't keep any songs though
- pbombach
It is for me, Earl. I never use my ipod now, lol
- Scott Johnson
I had one of the original Zune's. I loved it for a long, long time. Could play any video, could do any MP3s, and held a charge for several hours. Days with limited use. The Zune is a great product.
- Lucavex Ayanami
If Microsoft made a Zune phone they would all brick every time a new phone is activated
- Elliott Kieff
Alex won't give up on subscriptions and tablet.
- Mike Getz
I would have bought an Iphone instaed of a BB Bold if AT&t would get off its behind and bring 3g here
- earl wallace
Just saw this on electronista - specs of what may be the Zune phone: http://www.electronista.com/article...
- Barry Wiseman
subscription model is a good idea and a win win for apple IMHO
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Yea, we're still waiting on it here. THey say it should be here by the end of the year. So we'll have it in '12
- Scott Johnson
the video editor commecial is pretty dumb
- Tendonitis' Bitch
You don't need any space on your iphone to put music on. I use Simplify. All music is on my home iMac.
- Benjamin
For under 2k, then she "pays" 2k
- Scott Johnson
I want something bigger.....I want something smaller...
- Jim Erickson
Benjamin- you had luck with Simplify? I've had a lot of dropouts, but i have 1gen iphone
- Barry Wiseman
Have you tried Vegas on Windows Alex?
- Jim Erickson
Barry- Yeah works a little better over 3G
- Benjamin
filmmaker = I upload videos from my camera to youtube
- Matthew
Too bad they don't show you what these people say a week from when they get the comp
- Scott Johnson
O_O
- Bwana ☠
Agreed- Vegas has grown in leaps and bounds. It does many things better than my FCP rig...
- GeekDads.TV
heya Bwana
- Tendonitis' Bitch
hi. In this regard, I have to respect Alex's opinion
- Bwana ☠
Yeah Alex kinda knows video :)
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Final Cut Express is $400?
- Mike Getz
You definitely can do good editing on a PC. But nothing comes standard that's any good.
- Scott Johnson
Thought FCE was $200
- Mike Getz
Yeah FCE is $200
- Barry Wiseman
for a "free app" iMovie 09 is pretty powerful
- Tendonitis' Bitch
I use Sony Vegas :|
- Matthew
It's not worth it to put flash on the iphone
- Scott Johnson
Apple and Google do compete.
- Mike Getz
Browser, Mail, Documents and others
- Mike Getz
As soon as Google starts selling apples, and has shows featuring such characters such as Andy Ihnatko, there is no competition
- Scott Johnson
Flash for the BB was supposed to launch this month..so far no go.
- earl wallace
Apple and Google overlap - but complete? After all, Apple is really a hardware company, and Google is an advertising company.
- Robert DeLaurentis
anti Steve Jobs :)
- Bwana ☠
I just see it as, anything that is worth doing on an iphone that would normally require flash there is an app for, or a way of doing it. And if there is that "one thing," you have to have it for, take a 30 second trip to your computer
- Scott Johnson
We need an APERTURE update!!
- Shannon Burns
I just wish I could get the Pre on my SERO everything I've seen says no go
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Blackberries are great! Then a week later you get rid of it and get an iphone!
- Scott Johnson
Biggest reason not to add flash...battery life. Otherwise, why not add flash?
- Paul Puri
Any Flash movie on my MacBook is the only item that turns on the cooling fans. Its got to be a an unoptimized mess under the hood.
- Robert DeLaurentis
Because Flash sucks on Mac OS X
- Bwana ☠
correction, Flash REALLY sucks on Mac OS X
- Bwana ☠
Amen Bwana amen
- Tendonitis' Bitch
I guess MobileMe competes with Google the most. Also, iPhone and G1 are competitors
- Mike Getz
Aperture update! Yes! Finger crossed that they are waiting for Snow Leopard.
- Robert DeLaurentis
Sounds like my videos :)
- Bwana ☠
Jailbreak and use DemoGod
- iGerard
I agree with what they said last week, we won't be seeing snow leopard at WWDC, but we'll get some info that will make us drool
- Scott Johnson
/me closes his ears
- Bwana ☠
SlingPlayer.... no 3G
- Bwana ☠
Leo, it was $30 on WinMo too I believe
- Bwana ☠
Orb does 3G...
- Jed
Agreed, the price makes no sense without 3G
- Bwana ☠
Are they taking talk shoe calls on this episode
- Doug
sounds like a great video show for Pixel Corps--can't wait for that one
- Nathan Lott
no doug
- Tendonitis' Bitch
How much is the Blackberry version?
- markrobw
Dont forget about Peggle for iPhone, the crack game ;)
- Ricky Steven Isbell
/still has no iphone
- Tendonitis' Bitch
is there a good way to suggest a topic
- Doug
Nah, they just glance down every now and then, Doug
- Scott Johnson
Or you can call his house phone
- Scott Johnson
it's yet another iPhone only restriction
- Bwana ☠
which ticks me off
- Bwana ☠
Doug - MBWpicks on Delicious
- Robert DeLaurentis
M-I-Z
- Jo Ann
Well if they glance down they should check out yappler.com/api, this guys offering a rich api for applications in the itunes app store, makes it easy to build custom apps/websites to search the app store
- Doug
I think it's a cool idea
- Doug
we need learning pods like in Star Trek
- Matthew
Professors are generally lazy - that's the issue.
- Bwana ☠
It'll be nice when they give use peripheral keyboard compatability. That would be excellent for my lectures
- Scott Johnson
amen Bwana
- Chuck Adams
A proper learning session won't give you time to sketch
- Bwana ☠
True, Bwana.
- Scott Johnson
I don't think iPhones are a good idea
- Bwana ☠
it's a giant source of distraction
- Bwana ☠
Umich already does the spot checking via a device called Qwizdom
- pbombach
costs $20
- pbombach
I want to go to the school in Alex's imagination!
- Robert DeLaurentis
YOu guys are talking about the iClicker thing. We use those in Nursing School. They would be cool if our instructors could get them to work :P
- Scott Johnson
Leo, rumors of a quad core MBP. http://bit.ly/HnLVF
- iGerard
taking notes and studying them later is ther real learning..this tech way is slothe and useless
- earl wallace
I love the HFS+ driver for BootCamp
- Tendonitis' Bitch
if they're focusing on bug fixes (which is what I gather from a feature freeze) I think they're pretty close to a release
- Bwana ☠
2 months is close to me :)
- Bwana ☠
Well, earl. I'd have to disagree. I can't take notes and rea them later, because it's too boring. Interractivity is the way I learn. I'm very tactile.
- Scott Johnson
Just giving us some kind of feature demo at WWDC and then an approximate ship date would be nice...
- Barry Wiseman
Using the app to record eveyones answers and let us do questions as a class is awesome
- Scott Johnson
well I see your point ..I guess the difference in perception is the generational teaching techniques of the past and now...lecture notes then, keyboarding notes in classroom now
- earl wallace
Right. And how one learns is also a huge factor. I learn best by doing things, while another learns best by reading, and another can only learn by hearing something
- Scott Johnson
I have a problem with the instructors. I work in a school. Each teacher has a iMac on their desktop. What is it used for? Web surfing, email, and word processing. How do they teach? the same way they've been teaching for 20 years!
- Chuck Adams
HI FROM GEORGIA EVERY THINGS UP AND WORKING 2 DAY
- daveccorey
That "definitely" has generational factors, Chuck. If I learn how to do something now, I'm going to be doing it 50 years from now. As long as it still works and then info gets conveyed, I'm still going to do it. It just so happens that they learned to do these things prior to knowing the usefulness of macs
- Scott Johnson
It's sad, really
- Scott Johnson
Apple tells developers to make apps compatable with firmware 3.0 for AppStore. New apps must be compatible if submitted now. Old apps must be made compatible or they will be removed. See www.theloopblog.com/archives/290
- judy Engelsberg
ANOTHER SUBJECT I WAS WONDERING IF ITUNES WAS GOING TO GET ANY SHAREING APLACATIONS 4 TWTTER LIKE GROVE SHARK AND YOUTUBE HAS
- daveccorey
you're caps lock is definitely working
- Matthew
O_O
- Bwana ☠
That makes it difficult for a brand new developer like me. Now I have to wait for the 3.0 sdk to drop for free so I can re-work what I've already done. What the heck?
- Scott Johnson
I'm suprised that is actual intelligence in this comment thread, and not people who think the proper way to start and end every sentence is with the word "lol"
- Lucavex Ayanami
accidental atheism?
- Matthew
The fact is, whether it's Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac, until the mindset of the teacher changes education in this country will continue to lag behind the rest of the world. I don't care how much tech you throw at education.
- Chuck Adams
That's the very reason I stopped chatting on Stickam
- Scott Johnson
I actually prefer Virtualbox over Parallels and VM Fusion. I'm setting it up for a lab of OS X machines now!
- Chuck Adams
Is virtualization as fast as running windows through boot camp?
- Michael K
Right, Chuck. And little by little the old teachers are giving in to teaching about the use of these systems and technique
- Scott Johnson
virtual box is spiffy, but VM Ware and Parallels have better 3d support for example the aero effects in Win 7 don't work in VB
- Tendonitis' Bitch
There was an article in the LA time last week explaining how difficult it is to dismiss bad teachers. Bottom line, its almost impossible.
- Robert DeLaurentis
Yes, but you get what you pay for.
- Lucavex Ayanami
I just used bootcamp for Vista partition. Which one are you able to run 4 OS's at once? It's 79.99
- Scott Johnson
Lucavex and Scott ypu both hit the nail on the head. It also more peaceful and easier to understand ideas in here without trying to comprehend traffic going by at 100 mph
- earl wallace
Which hurts everyone, good teachers and bad
- Robert DeLaurentis
True, Gunny, but I'm not crazy about Aero anyway.
- Chuck Adams
Fusion is great
- Bwana ☠
Right, Earl. The only problem will be when more well-meaning people like use join this chat and it gets bogged down, lol!
- Scott Johnson
just pointing it out. If you want to play HL2 for example it won't work in VB
- Tendonitis' Bitch
LOL, I just answered that same question yesterday :)
- Bwana ☠
The only issue I have so far with VB is setting it up for multiple users
- Chuck Adams
video will be up soon /plug
- Bwana ☠
scott I guess that is where the blocking mechanism will show it's value
- earl wallace
Crossing my fingers
- Scott Johnson
HL2 works fine in Parallels is my only reason for mentioning it
- Tendonitis' Bitch
I have to agree with Leo here. Windows 7 (Which is what I currently use at home) is so stable and solid even under the release candidate. Microsoft really did themselves justice on this new OS. I've never purchased a legitimate copy of an operating system since I was 14. I am now 25. But I can say with 100% truth that I will be purchasing Windows 7.
- Lucavex Ayanami
$1500! Sweet! I'll take 2!
- Bwana ☠
Mind if I invite you on twitter, Earl and Chuck?
- Scott Johnson
sure
- Chuck Adams
of course thanks Scott
- earl wallace
Thank you ^^
- Scott Johnson
Im earlwallace on twitter
- earl wallace
I've used snaptell on DVD's too... works great
- Barry Wiseman
ok
- Chuck Adams
Has anyone here tried Jaadu?
- Scott Johnson
That's something you guys should bring up one more time, Leo "Jaadu"
- Scott Johnson
I'm not familiar with Jaadu. Yes, I'd love a quick explaination.
- Lucavex Ayanami
Seesmic 0.2 is out.
- Chuck Adams
Very brief: Jaadu allows you to access your Mac, WIndows, or Linux system on your iPhone/iPod via a VNC
- Scott Johnson
Stoked to be watching MacBreak Weekly live. Just downloading Solaris and SnapTell. Funny - I always pictured Don McAllister differently.
- Dan Biddle
Jaadu, free or paid app?
- Chuck Adams
paid
- Matthew
$25, but you can access your comp over edge, wifi, and 3g, and it runs great
- Scott Johnson
Excellent briefing, Scott. Thank you.
- Lucavex Ayanami
back to the music progs, Propellerheads coming out with Record to go with Reason! Psyched: http://www.propellerheads.se/product...
- David Balogh
What's the name of the app Alex's talking about? No problem, Lucavex. ^^ Glad to help
- Scott Johnson
Numerology
- Bwana ☠
Thank you, Bwana ^^
- Scott Johnson
An excellent, cheap step sequencer is FL Studio. I'm not sure of it's availability for Mac, though.
- Lucavex Ayanami
@Bwana Hay!
- D Lets
I want the new version!
- Bwana ☠
automagic blog post
- Bwana ☠
Feeder user here :)
- Bwana ☠
Note to self: Feeder sounds great
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
No sir, D Lets. You don't need to jailbreak for Jaadu. Search for it on the App store ^^
- Scott Johnson
Oh, lord, Here we go ~.^
- Scott Johnson
Scott I cant find your twiiter nick to add you to my twiiter?
- earl wallace
I'm following you now Earl
- Chuck Adams
LOL
- Bwana ☠
Dang, I wanted to listen to today's show to get the skinny on iPhone rumors that may come out at WWDC. Dunno whether to wait or pounce on the Palm Pre.
- jcunwired
Thanks Chuck Looking to add you now
- earl wallace
Aye, I'm following you and chuck. Lemme see about adding you as a friend. I'm a N00b to Twitter
- Scott Johnson
I was bit by the seagate barracuda bug too
- Tendonitis' Bitch
I don't know how this thing connects to twitter, or if it does ><
- Scott Johnson
Is there a big performance jump in 7200 rpm laptop drives?
- Michael K
There is for me mike.
- Bwana ☠
You'll definitely see a difference as compared to a 5800
- Scott Johnson
*5400
- Scott Johnson
That's why I got a 7200rpm - Video
- Bwana ☠
me too... had to replace my HD and the performance was noticeable
- Chuck Adams
Mike you'll notice a definite "lag" time time when you compare a 5400 to a 7800. It's not enough to make or break a hard drive buy decision unless you do video editing.
- Lucavex Ayanami
Or other HDD intensive tasks.
- Lucavex Ayanami
I want to do something else Alex :)
- Bwana ☠
hehe
- Bwana ☠
You know what, I may just be following you on friendfeed, guys. I'm Scott Johnson on twitter too
- Scott Johnson
Thanks for the info on HD rpm speed. Holding out on stock 08-MBP drive.
- Michael K
I found you both! Thanks
- earl wallace
Kk, cool
- Scott Johnson
:)
- Chuck Adams
Now I won't feel so much like I'm "shouting into the canyon" as Leo has said.
- Chuck Adams
insert gotomypc ad here
- Dominic
Drop box + back to my mac (if it worked) = the force unleashed
- Michael K
Back to my mac has never worked for me... Never... I will not renew my MobileMe subscription.
- Chuck Adams
Im using Dropbax and (forgive the plug) and Carbonite sofar so goo
- earl wallace
Mobile Me didn't thrill me too much when it was explained to me
- Scott Johnson
I wasted 99 bucks on it
- Chuck Adams
LOVE DropBox
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
The only thing that interested me was the easy web design. Now with Jaadu, I don't need mobile me
- Scott Johnson
I doubt I ever buy Dropbox because of the nice 2 gig storage.
- earl wallace
POGOPLUG is down, lol
- Shannon Burns
i've been using logmein for remote access
- Chuck Adams
Ah, Hamachi
- Scott Johnson
Chuck, I love logmein, make any family member who wants computer help, install it.
- Ryan
no... not hamachi
- Chuck Adams
www.logmein.com
- Chuck Adams
creators of hamachi but more like gotomypc
- Chuck Adams
i have, Ryan
- Chuck Adams
cwob is the coolest name for a web site. I used hamachi in the past and had to make a Logmein ID. I think thats where I got mixed up, Chuck
- Scott Johnson
Hamachi is still kind of flaky to me on OS X
- Chuck Adams
I used it on my windows machine. Not too keen on trying it for Mac
- Scott Johnson
It works most of the time, but the open source gui, HamachiX still has some issues IMHO
- Chuck Adams
This was a good show thanks Leo!
- earl wallace
Alright guys and gals. Good talking with you, and I'll see you next week.
- Scott Johnson
great show!
- Robert DeLaurentis
Good job guys
- Robert Phares
I like the "Mac break is broke" better
- Scott Johnson
time for me to go home... This was fun!
- Chuck Adams
Alright chuck and earl, take care and I'll ttyl
- Scott Johnson
you too Scott and Chuck!
- earl wallace
Fun stuff, and nice tan Leo. Petaluma glow ;)
- Michael K
Sure glad I was listen as The Twit Cottage lost audio again
- La Iguana Wanna
IT WAS WEARD MY COMPUTER FROZE UP IN GEORGIA 340 ATL TIME ANY 1 ELSES
- daveccorey
Great show! Don, I don't know how we can have you on @vexedtech after MBW :P
- iGerard
@daveccorey I think it's trying to communicate!
- Lucavex Ayanami
TWIT ISNOT WORKING 2 DAY
- daveccorey
TWIT TV IS STILL DOWN TO LEO 6PM ATL TIME MAD TV DUDES OUT OF FOCUS 2
- daveccorey
Kirk never dies. Kirk cannot die. Kirk is immortal. All who say he died in <movie name redacted> shall be burnt at the stake as heretics against the church of Kirk.
Christian (Simply X), Kaan Ertürk, Andy Kruger and 9 other people liked this
Picard pwns Kirk. ;)
- Soup
Picard is not part of this conversation. Hail Kirk!
- Mike Lewis
All Hail Kirk!
- Bwana ☠
All Hail Kirk!!! (PS. Ah Alex - one does not mention the name of That Movie That Shall Not Be Named)
- Roberto Bonini
Picard > Kirk
- Geoff Schultz
?????????? Since when????
- Roberto Bonini
Soup and Geoff Schultz will be the first to burn as heretics against the church of Kirk.
- Alex Scoble
*gets torches* OK....
- Roberto Bonini
Young Kirk > Picard > Old Kirk
- Ken Sheppardson
Maybe he doesn't die. But he SHOULD.
- ♥patricia♥
And by "Young Kirk" I mean TOS Kirk, not MTV Kirk
- Ken Sheppardson
The air will be hot from the heat of all the burnings we shall have to do tonight!
- Alex Scoble
*builds the rival temple of Picard in front of which an effigy of Kirk is daily burnt. * MWAHAHAHAHA
- Soup
Ken is splitting hairs too finely tonight
- Roberto Bonini
No one ever realized the irony of his death in that movie - He died on the bridge.
- Matthew DeVries
DENNY CRANE
- Josh Haley
I thought he died *under* the bridge.
- Ken Sheppardson
In the church of Kirk we perform karate chops on alien foes and woo alien women...what do you do in the church of Picard? Recite Shakespeare? Drink tea?
- Alex Scoble
*faceplam*
- Roberto Bonini
Alex: We make things so.
- Ken Sheppardson
ALL POWER TO THE ENGINES. *genuflects*
- Matthew DeVries
...and laugh at Nausicaans
- Ken Sheppardson
+100 Ken.
- Soup
I think they recite "ENGAGE" alot. :)
- Roberto Bonini
dum dum dum, dah dah dum, dum dum dah dah dah (shirt gets ripped open) duuuuuuuuudah! duuuuuuuuudah!
- Chris Greene
Alex: There's also the occasional Ressikan flute playing.
- Ken Sheppardson
"I am Keeeerok! You shall obey me"
- Chris Greene
OK, wait... I may convert.
- Ken Sheppardson
Name me one other person who got to make out with batgirl in green body paint. C'mon now....
- Chris Greene
Alex: Our work here is done. Second star to the right and straight on till morning.
- Roberto Bonini
I say Picard!! I think he would win!! ;)
- Paul
Rahsaan Roland Kirk will live forever in my heart. Alex--I couldn't agree more. Long live Kirk!!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
*kirk slashes open picards throat with a vulcan skythe and then nails dr. beverly over the slain corpse of his enemy*
- Chris Greene
Alex - They will wield the mighty prime directive of justice...meanwhile Kirk fires phasers
- Bwana ☠
Ah, One question: Who has the bigger ship??? Picard.
- Roberto Bonini
KAAAAAAAAHHHHHHNNNNNNN!
- Eric P
Locutus had a much much much bigger ship
- Matthew DeVries
Correct - Kirk didn't die - he stayed in the Nexus :) Just like Pike remained in his trance
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Roberto: It's not the size of your Enterprise it's how you use it.
- Chris Greene
saw "How William Shatner Changed the World" this weekend on the History Channel - http://tiny.pl/z86b - good stuff - he really does not take himself seriously - it's great
- William Harryman
Kirk was eaten by his wig.
- CW™
TV Writing to Get Worse - http://nymag.com/daily...
Steven Perez, Martin Bryant, James Ferguson and 3 other people liked this
"Owing to anticipated drops in advertising, studios producing series for the four major networks are aiming to cut their writing budgets by as much as 15 percent for all returning series this fall, and new shows will start with smaller writing staffs than in recent seasons. For example, while in previous years a drama like NBC's Southland would have employed up to twelve scribes, it's actually being written by just four. And when things at NBC doubtlessly fail to improve next year, look for those same four writers to be catering the set and replacing the show's lead actors."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
Thought it was already bad enough
- Shevonne
Maybe they should begin changing the way they do things... British style shorter runs so the quality can be kept high? Try picking up talent from the net instead of paying bloated wages for known names?
- alphaxion
I'm not really into fiction in any case, although on the occasions I do try, I am usually disappointed. I tend to watch British stuff anyway, if I do.
- Ian May
That sounds like a brilliant way to lose viewers.
- Wirehead
That's a shame, but OTOH the brilliant "Life" had a writing staff of 6, I think.
- Andrew C
Aside from Nat'l Geographic and the History channel, there's nothing good on television anyways. No point in paying for it.
- Bryan Penczak
What do Trekkies have against Nemesis? Are you all bawwwing because of Data? Or is it something else?
Steven Perez, tinypants - Hagitha of FF, CW™ and Alex Scoble liked this
That one was okay. It's probably # 4 or #5 on my list
- Steve Lowe
It was a complete rehash of Wrath of Khan and a badly made one at that. It brought nothing new to the franchise. It was tired and weak and almost singlehandedly killed the franchise.
- Alex Scoble
Better than the first one, which was a blatant re-make of the Nomad episode.
- Steve Lowe
Damn right, Steve!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
You know what Nemesis felt like to me? An average to below average episode of the series. Nothing near movie scale and nothing really that great.
- Joe Pierce
It was predictable. More of a story line to appease a long standing actor that felt he was under represented in his acting in a character that was meant to be emotionless?
- CW™
Eh. Not as actively bad as, say, Trek V, but tehy already did "Wrath of Khan", and it didn't need a less-exciting remake. And seriously: a dune buggy? Luke Skywalker had a cooler ride when he was still a farmboy.
- Kevin Shaum
My problem with Nemesis was that it just felt old. It felt reused. And the cheap trick they pulled with Data and B4 was crap. The last 20 minutes was awesome though. But the rest...meh. (good call on Trek V, Kevin...that is my least fave of the entire lot)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
alex, i disliked the one before that. that one was boring as hell.
- Terry O'Fee
Insurrection? It was merely ok.
- Alex Scoble
yeah, the one set on the planet where they're trying to kick the peaceniks off of it...
- Terry O'Fee
Nemesis was just blah. I don't remember much about it other than both Lindsay and I agreeing that it was "just ok." That's evidence enough that it wasn't so hot.
- Internet's Tad
NEMESIS was more or less bland - right up until the Enterprise fender-bender. At that point, the science geek in me screamed to get up and leave.
- Steven Perez
Pants Status: Keyboarded - http://www.nycresistor.com/2009...
مهزیار, Shevonne, Mike Nayyar and 5 other people liked this
interesting concept
- (jeff)isageek
from Bookmarklet
here is a snipit from the story "I made these nifty pants that sort-of function as a keyboard. I can play tetris at least!"
- (jeff)isageek
EU expected to rule against Intel in AMD antitrust case: Microsoft points, afraid to laugh - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
I want to watch something science fictiony. Right now. *goes to troll Netflix Instant Watch*
Alfredo, Peter, Forrest Cox and 10 other people liked this
How about Quantum Leap? How is that? I want kinda cheesy sci-fi stuff, not like actual good sci-fi stuff. Ideally, like 1950s B sci-fi is what I want, but I can't find any on Netflix I want to see. Alternative would be TV series like Stargate or Andromeda, but they don't have those either. Original series Battlestar Galactica? Or I might just do Resident Evil: Extinction.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I used to not like Quantum at all, but now that I'm older and it is more nostalgia like I can watch it any time and have fun.
- Joe Pierce
"Cheesy" perfectly describes the original Galactica series, in my opinion. Does Netflix have Lost in Space? It's one of my "guilty pleasure" movie.
- Brome
Alien Apocalypse is available for streaming. It's recent, but definitely cheesy and '50s B-movie style.
- Rob H.
Ooh, it has Bruce Campbell! You know, I don't think I've ever seen a movie with Bruce Campbell. Hmmm....they have Evil Dead. Though from what I've been told, I think I'd like Evil Dead II or Army of Darkness better, neither of which they have. Brome, I've seen the movie of Lost in Space. Ooh, do they have Galaxy Quest? I'd watch that one AGAIN....no, they don't. Dang.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Evil Dead and Evil Dead II are pretty much the same thing, just II had much higher budget and better quality.
- Alex Scoble
Also, in Evil Dead II, the humor is intentional.
- Rob H.
N...Never seen a movie with Bruce Campbell? I just don't know how to respond to that. I prefer Evil Dead I because it leans more towards horror but Evil Dead II is pretty much the same thing with a higher budget and more comedy mixed in.
- Joe Pierce
I love it when Joe repeats what I just said.
- Alex Scoble
I didn't see that until after I hit send. Clearly it was more a case of you projecting your thoughts into my head.
- Joe Pierce
I like my horror with a healthy dollop of comedy. And Alex, lol. I heard Evil Dead was gory. But if it's gory like Planet Terror or Kill Bill, i.e., super-over-the-top gory, I'm okay with that.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Ohh, Six String Samurai is available for streaming too. It's a post apocalyptic wasteland where nuclear war happened in the 50s and rock-and-rollers travel to Las Vegas to replace dead King Elvis. Very low budget and has an annoying kid, but it's a favorite of mine.
- Rob H.
It's very gory for the 80s, Jandy...Sam Raimy and crew never saw a horror situation where a healthy amount of blood splashed around didn't work well. If you haven't seen a BC movie, start with Evil Dead II, go to Army of Darkness, then watch Brisco County Junior and finally mosey on down to Burn Notice.
- Alex Scoble
Robert, thanks! I actually had that in my queue apparently. Moved it up.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Alex knows his Campbell. From now on I agree with almost everything he says...Now I want to pull out Brisco County Jr. That show rocked.
- Joe Pierce
Heh, just looked up Bruce Campbell. The only stuff I've seen are things he did cameos in: Fargo, Intolerable Cruelty, the Spider-Man movies. Might explain why my friends are like "BRUCE CAMPBELL!" when we watch those and I'm like, whut? Alex, I've seen some of Burn Notice, but again with his presence not meaning so much to me, since I haven't seen his actual movies.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Bruce Campbell is the most important character in the Spider-Man franchise.
- Joe Pierce
Did you ever get into Dark Angel?
- Mark Horne
Yeah, the third Spider Man movie would have ABSOLUTELY sucked without his cameo...it was worth watching just for that, which doesn't speak well for the rest of the movie. :)
- Alex Scoble
Firefly is available on Hulu http://www.hulu.com/watch...
- Bluesun 2600
I'm just saying. In the first movie Bruce Created Spider-Man. In the second movie he defeated him, and in the third movie they teamed up. Without Bruce he would have just been "The Human Spider" or some such nonsense.
- Joe Pierce
Mark, you know I did! I have the first season on DVD. And Bluesun, I also have both Firefly and Serenity on DVD, and have watched them many times. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Whoa, does hulu really have Stargate SG-1? Hmmm... But I don't want to tie up my computer and I haven't gotten TV connectivity working yet for hulu. I'll keep that on queue for later, though. Thanks, Paul! I didn't realize they had it.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
have you watched res evil extinction yet?
- Richard Lawler
I knew you were going to bring that up, Richard. :) Not yet. I'm giving Evil Dead a try. If I don't like it, I'll fall back on Extinction.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
You welcome, You should really check out all Hulu's Sci-Fi Channel they got a lot of shows : http://www.hulu.com/channel...
- Paul
from twhirl
I second Firefly if you want something good; it's by no means cheesy.
- Peter
I liked Quantum Leap! But it's not very sf-ish. It's just an SF premise wrapped around the usual cliche about the traveller who rolls into town and fixes stuff before moving on.
- Andrew C
Our Last Post About Twitter (Today — Maybe) - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"Um #lobster is a trending topic on Twitter right now. One problem: it is all spam. Why isn’t TechCrunch writing about that?"
- Robert Scoble
Holden: I too am a Twitter power user and you are wrong, sorry, but I need to do a video why. For one a block on friendfeed removes you from search. For two there is decemtralized moderation here while on Twitter moderation is centralized on Twitter Trends.
- Robert Scoble
You don't get spam on Twitter unless you just read the public timeline. You the user are your own spam filter. You only get tweets from people you follow. Friendfeed is the same. On the other hand email is 90% spam. Fortunately most responsible ISP's operate effective spam filters and the more sensible users also have spam filters on their local machines. Twitter is very quick to remove...
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- Gilbert Harding
Gilbert: wrong. Trending topics show up on everyone's home page no matter who you are following on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I don't see how trending topics constitutes spam. Besides which how many people actually use their Twitter home page to read and post. I can't recall the last time I looked at mine so I'll take your word for the appearance of trending topics on there. You really don't have to read them you know.
- Gilbert Harding
I only use the web interface.
- Dave Winer
OK Dave, you've just discovered a downside to not using a desktop Twitter client. You get spam everywhere, you just don't have to read it. I really don't see why Twitter is being singled out here when the user is in control of what he or she sees and reads. Many of the people on Friendfeed are only here for a bit of social networking. That's driving people to their websites, blogs or businesses. Is that spam?
- Gilbert Harding
Gilbert: Twitter has no defenses against spam in the search engine. Friendfeed has lots of defenses. The entire world will figure this out soon.
- Robert Scoble
this was a good honest piece, hadda be said.
- Thom Kennon
Friendfeed will have less spam as more people join while Twitter will have more. And you are TOTALLY wrong that you can avoid spam on Twitter's search engine and trending topics.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: absolutely wrong. If I'm searching on http://search.twitter.com, say, MySQL, and a spammer wants me to see a message he'll put it there and there's absolutely nothing you can do except report him and wait on Twitter's team to delete the spam. Same on trending topics, as #lobster proved last night. But on friendfeed? First of all, you can block that account, which removes that...
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- Robert Scoble
Moreover, on FF you can filter which type of post you don't wanna see for each person you follow (hiding all tweets from Holden - just an example :) )
- Stanislas Jourdan
Stanislas: even better, you can hide all Tweets from Holden unless they get a like or a comment. That so effectively hides all spam too. It's an amazing feature and one that Twitter can't touch.
- Robert Scoble
you're right, I forgot that. Very great feature.
- Stanislas Jourdan
I'm not sure our expectations should be that some channels won't suffer from spam injection and others will. We figured out how to deal with it in email (filters) and we certainly allow ourselves plenty of AdSense junk in our digital consumption day. Why would Twitter get away with being spam free?
- Thom Kennon
Holden: absolutely wrong again. Twitter does NOT have the metadata or the decentralized moderation that friendfeed has. You really haven't studied the problem very deeply. Please do more homework, thanks.
- Robert Scoble
Holden, I also use twitter (more and more actually, since I was on FF before). But I use it differently : more searches but less convesation. I think it's great to have both
- Stanislas Jourdan
Holden: I demonstrated why friendfeed's search is better than Twitter here: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde... (long, but interesting discussion about the real time web).
- Robert Scoble
the majority of people don't know even the existence of Frienfeed.
- Stanislas Jourdan
yet :P
- Stanislas Jourdan
Holden: no, I am demonstrating to you why friendfeed is resistant to spam and twitter can not be. Stanislas: that problem will get solved very quickly when people start seeing more and more spam. Remember when Alta Vista had the world sewn up and this little thing called Google came along? We were having the exact same discussions then.
- Robert Scoble
Stanislas: exactly right.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: absolutely false again. Twitter has about 20 million users. Facebook has about 250 million. So, Twitter hasn't been loved by the mainstream yet.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: and, I've been doing this over and over again for 25 years. Reach does NOT matter. It didn't matter to Google.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: OK, name how it will delete spam over on Twitter? Hint: they can only do pattern recognition. That is NOT NEARLY as good as the defenses here.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: If you claim reach matters then Twitter does not matter. It only has 20 million users. Facebook has more than 200 million.
- Robert Scoble
Hint: reach is over rated.
- Robert Scoble
I had these exact same discussions about Google with people when Google came out. They were all wrong. So are you.
- Robert Scoble
Watch the video: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde...
- Robert Scoble
I demonstrate why friendfeed is a dramatically better place to search.
- Robert Scoble
Users will figure this out over the next year or two. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. Of course my friends thought I was weird when I told them that Google was going to kick Alta Vista's ass.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: so you're saying: get the features right first, and worry about the size of your audience later?
- .LAG liked that
Simplicity is over rated too. Facebook has 10x (actually more, but they haven't shared the real numbers) than Twitter and has more engagement, less churn, more mainstream users, and is FAR more complex than either Twitter or friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
LAG: no, I've seen this play out before. If you have a better search engine people WILL notice and people WILL move. Google proved this.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook is growing a Twitter every 20 days or so right now.
- Robert Scoble
Holden, see that : http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
- Stanislas Jourdan
Anyway, Holden, lets meet in two years. You'll see I was right. These things change remarkably fast when they are provably better (as friendfeed is). Remember when everyone used to be on MySpace?
- Robert Scoble
...time will tell. I'm completely aboard the FriendFeed bandwagon. Also totally agree with you when you say: FaceBook is more complicated that Twitter and Friendfeed. But perhaps that investment in getting your presence setup there contributes to its loyalty.
- .LAG liked that
Search is MUCH more important (especially to monetization) than input of data (which is what Twitter owns).
- Robert Scoble
LAG: Facebook has a ton of ways you are hooked in. Twitter only has a couple. That's why Twitter is seeing a HUGE churn rate.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: I have history on my side. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Anyway, I gotta run and be a good father and husband. Picnic time with the family, talk to you later.
- Robert Scoble
Watch the video. In that room were some of the most powerful VCs/investors/technologists in the world. http://www.ustream.tv/recorde... Note that they didn't argue with me when I showed them how much better friendfeed's search is.
- Robert Scoble
this type of conversation is definitely the added value of FF against twitter (more important than search in my opinion)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Stanislas: search is going to be more important two years from now as we get overrun with conversations and need to find the ones that matter to us.
- Robert Scoble
Check out the following service http://threadedtweets.com/ The goal is to make Twitter into a more conversational platform by seeing how a conversation unfolds
- Amiroo ™
Amiroo: I tried it out. Very unsatisfying after comparing it to friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
you're surely right, but personally this is not what i appreciate the most on FF
- Stanislas Jourdan
Stanislas: you will. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Totally agree but that's a start
- Amiroo ™
Another issue for twitter is that there are many solutions like desktop clients, pictwitt, threadtweets and so on, but they are all in different places. Issue for becoming mainstream.
- Stanislas Jourdan
This is a great way to educate a newbie like myself... My learning curve gets smaller the more I stay close to you guys (and Gals) Thanks to all that post valid info
- John kowal
You may be right about that Holden. i have to think about this.
- Stanislas Jourdan
Far too much time is taken here in discussing Twitter. It's almost as if some people here are frightened of it. My original point was that in the grand scheme of things spam, Twitter spam is really very insignificant. Email servers across the planet are groaning under the strain of dealing with the floods of spam, and yet here we are discussing the odd occurance of it in the Twitter...
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- Gilbert Harding
i have to go, have a nice day everyone and thanks for good conversation
- Stanislas Jourdan
Would love to hear your view Robert
- Amiroo ™
Gilbert: email spam is a problem for the same reason Twitter is seeing spam. I have talked with Hotmail team about that.
- Robert Scoble
There are more and more desktop and mobile clients supporting FF everyday PeopleBrowsr added posting and commenting this week sobees also has FF support the trend will continue. I see already 25% of my twitter follows here on FF. That trend will continue as well. Also I cant believe that I read above that you dont see spam on twitter except in the public timeline. What is the spam in my dm doing there then? And the spam in my timeline?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
from fftogo
I can bet this wont be the last post on Twitter.. at least for quite some time to come..
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
yes Holden, the spam in the DM is horrid. I've even got socialtoo.com blocking all the auto-DMs, and I still get spammed. Even if I pick through the new followers carefully before I follow back, I find I STILL get spammed. And there's no avoiding spam in the timeline. (but truthfully some of it depends of the individual's particular definition of spam
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
wow thanks guys this was a fascinating discussion! Learnt stacks from this. Will be referring to this thread often when discussing the benefits of ff and the need to understand the platform.
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Robert with such a good feeling for what's coming (and there I totally agree on FF huge value and you brought me there btw) : Why aren't you at a VC firm? ;)
- Harscoat
Ok Robert you've spoken to Hotmail about spam. Great. But they only handle the spam. To stop spam you have to follow the money and that means not the spammers but the people who hire the spammers. The people who run the websites that sell the pills. Now I know some of the spammers also run the websites, but that's where the money trail ends. It's not difficult to see that is it? If all...
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- Gilbert Harding
Rob, with our new paid service it will enable me to do a lot more to slow down spam on Twitter and elsewhere (since we'll have much fewer people to process per server). Expect to see some in-roads in this area. Although we may put at least some of this under an all-encompassing subscription plan of some sort - still trying to figure out how that will work. I want to keep the anti-spam...
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- Jesse Stay
Jesse, that's a whole lot investment to kill something that FriendFeed manages to kill for free. Wouldn't it be better for your company to provide your core strengths to a better technology like FriendFeed, rather than try to slay that giant dragon in an environment that is flawed, and fosters exponential growth of that flaw?
- Matthew DeVries
jesse: if I could just block links from unapproved users in the DM and perhaps keywords I would be stoked - and I think you need to find a subscription plan to make your services work. Allen's comments about the one time price for the email service was right on.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Matthew: to ignore twitter is to be a fool. (so is expending all one's efforts on it!) And just how does friendfeed actually kill spam in some way that twitter doesn't? The only way that I see is there are "comments moderators" (thread owners) who can quickly delete the actual spam. That doesn't mean a) that it doesn't appear, and b) that those comments moderators WILL delete the spam....
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I'm going Robert Scoble's descriptions above, which all seem sound to me. I've found that Robert's INSANE predictions still have like a 90% rate of coming true, so his rational and backed up with facts predictions, you can pretty much bet the farm on. Harry McCraken (spelling please?) is the only other person in tech I've seen be a better predictor. And I didn't say Jesse should...
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- Matthew DeVries
And in other news, pigs flew
- Darryl Adams
from Nambu
@louisgray makes the best announcer for his baby videos - just wait until these kids realize what dad did to them :-P
Dan Morrill AKA Techwag, sam, Chris, Taskerrific Guy and 2 other people liked this
They're doomed.
- Louis Gray
@JamesFrancisIM Actually I could use about ten of me. More PCs would definitely help though. Cut down on logging in or out.
Nothing on google about it....
- Roberto Bonini
There was something on one of the tech blogs about it a couple of weeks ago. Someone hacked an admin account.
- Martin Bryant
@linnetwoods Nothing on google.. i asked around over on Friendfeed and asked @ev and @biz (twitter co-founders). Nothng yet....
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I believe this is what people are talking about hacking Twitter what happened : http://www.sophos.com/blogs...
- Paul
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Twitter Suspends my Account - http://www.tech-linkblog.com/2009...
Is @ev helping out @aplusk for @oprah show? I'm getting tons of messages from people who realize they can't unfollow that account. I can't either.
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wait now they are blocking unfollows?
- rob friedman
Yep, I cant unfollow him.
- Christian Burns
This is not right at all. We should have the right to unfollow him if we want to. Personally, I'm not following him, but still, THIS IS NOT RIGHT!
- Michael Forian
rob: yeah. I can't unfollow @aplusk
- Robert Scoble
oh BURN!
- rob friedman
as aplusk woud have said on That 70's show
- rob friedman
Nope, I can't unfollow Ashton..but I can unfollow other users
- Sam Houston
Oh that is cheap Twitter, You can't unfollow @Aplusk!! I am glad I didn't do it at all!!
- Paul
The beginning of the end... Twitter has sold it's soul to Oprah.
- Trad Robinson
You can't stop following? -- that is lame. I guess you have to be special to get that set up?
- Brian Sullivan
I've tried to unfollow @aplusk and I cannot do it, either.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
I'm so glad I never followed that one. Maybe they moved @aplusk to it's own server and have the SQL update/delete locked down.
- rob friedman
Leo was just talking about that. Makes the whole platform a joke.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I can't follow @Aplusk, let alone unfollow. Twitter's just borked. No conspiracy here folks, sorry.
- drew olanoff
I followed him, but it took a few minutes to register - maybe unfollowing is the same?
- Caffeinated Sue
Glad I never bothered to follow him anyway!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Eric: the whole platform has been a joke since day one. Didn't stop all of us from joining.
- Robert Scoble
lol @ own server
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
Twitter cant afford to have that account go down
- Christian Burns
I unfollowed him a few days ago ,, after seeing all the @cnnbrk crookery ...
- johnpiercy
Weird. Twitter's been acting wonky the last few days tho.
- Tiffany Monhollon
wow.....
- MikeAmundsen
Twitter is becoming the new VH1 "Where Are They Now" countdown special.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
And @aplusk's follower count is still going up.
- Michael Forian
definition of Twitter = Wonky
- rob friedman
Twitter's infrastructure is just falling apart, as always
- Michael Krigsman
@aplusk is adding about 2-4 followers a second from what I can tell.
- rob friedman
I've tried to unfollow for a couple of hours. I have successfully unfollowed marketers and spammers in the same time frame, just not Kutcher. Getting this error message on him "Whoops! Something went wrong. Please refresh the page and try again!"
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Okay, I just tried to unfollow, it didn't work. Has anyone tried to unfollow CNN?
- Caffeinated Sue
I was unable to unfollow @aplusk, but I did just unfollow @scobleizer. Just a test ;)
- Ryan Kuder
I tried to unfollow both of them and it gave that Whoops error
- James Rowe
The http://twitter.com/aplusk count is indeed getting up. not down :S
- Gerardo Curiel
You can't unfollow @cnnbrk either. Wow, this sucks. Twitter's obviously trying to cover their parfaits.
- Michael Forian
Brings new meaning to the term, "default"
- Jesse Stay
Being pretty new to Twitter (two years but very sporadic until the last few weeks) I hadn't heard of @aplusk until today. Anyhow, I went to try to follow him in the last few hours and none of my attempts were successful. My conclusion: the race is rigged by joint PR effort, they want him to break the million just as he appears on Oprah. Or something like that. I have to say that, given it's a free service, I didn't mind too much. But I probably haven't invested as much of myself as Scoble and others here :)
- Richard Drake
Well, the million follower scandal will hopefully show us technical folks what not to do if we ever hit it big. http://twitter.com/aplusk... Hacked really? pfft.
- rob friedman
can't unfollow, but I can still block. Let's all punk him and block him. (I did.)
- Michael Markman
PUUUUNK'D!!!!!!!!!!
- Gerardo Curiel
1,000,000 blocks that'd be nice
- rob friedman
Honestly I don't remember ever following @cnnbrk, and I don't see updates on page, or tweetdeck
- James Rowe
So, what does blocking do?
- Dennis Jackson
Twitter's TOS: "General Conditions - We reserve the right to modify or terminate the Twitter.com service for any reason, without notice at any time." Wow. This blows big time.
- Michael Forian
blocking makes it so that user when they are logged in, are unable to see your msgs
- rob friedman
I see the TOS. I still don't think it's right they are doing this. They need to make it fair. :( boo..
- Dennis Jackson
I wonder if it has to do with the "aplusk's 1,000,000th follower gets this and that and the other thing" promises that people/organizations like EA are making. By blocking people from unfollowing those accounts, they could be hoping to prevent people from unfollowing right after he hits 1,000,000 and the jockeying to become the "real" 1,000,000th follower that's sure to come.
- Gord McLeod
This is common for users with a lot of followers. I see it with our users on SocialToo all the time - it's some sort of bug in Twitter, assuming it's not a conspiracy.
- Jesse Stay
It's a friggin' conspiracy!!!
- Gerardo Curiel
You can block him though http://twitter.com/aplusk
- Christian Burns
I just don't see how blocking him does anything.
- Dennis Jackson
Hrm, that certainly takes some wind out of Twitter's sails...
- Trish Ridgway
Ashton is saying on his twitter feed that his account is getting hacking continually. Maybe this is a protective measure?
- Karl Kovacs
Guys, I think I've figured it out: the "unfollow" only takes effect after a few minutes. This applies to both @aplusk and @cnnbrk.
- Michael Forian
After a few minutes? I tried unfollowing Oprah and Ev and those don't work either. I wonder if it's my browser.
- Dennis Jackson
I can't follow him either. It pretends I'm following him, but when I refresh, I'm still not following him. I don't think this is what everyone thinks it is. Seems more like the account state is frozen.
- Cait
I've seen something lke this happen to regular users - follow again, clear browser cache, reload page, try to unfollow again. If that doesn't do it, try blocking. I would never have followed @aplusk in the first place, so I can't perform the test
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Maybe it's a scaling/load issue with their database.
- Gord McLeod
digg it: http://digg.com/d1ovKP
- Chad DeHaan
Ashton's closing the gap: http://chartbeat.com/cnnvsas...
- Caffeinated Sue
Looking at the stats for @aplusk and @cnnbrk, it appears they maybe working on a tie instead of a win. The numbers have gotten too close to call.
- Karl Kovacs
Karl's got it. Almost certainly a preventative measure in case the accounts get compromised. I'm wondering though... a) Does this take the heat out of Apple's one billion app milestone? and b) Does it really matter because Oprah will storm past both of them (indefinitely) once she starts tweeting.
- Alx Klive
I was able to unfollow @cnnbrk for sure.I was able to follow @aplusk and THEN I COULD NOT UNFOLLOW @aplusk
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Maybe he paid for that little service. It's one way to monetize Twitter. Then Twitter will charge us to unfollow those people.
- Mary Wehrle
I was able to block @aplusk just fine
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Ashton watching it live: http://www.ustream.tv/ashton
- Caffeinated Sue
http://www.ustream.tv/ashton idiot has too much money, so he spilled champange on his macbook.
- rob friedman
guy makes me ill
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
"i read all your @replies" - ashton
- rob friedman
yea, fan mail new low.
- rob friedman
I should block aplusk while I still can! :)
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