There's a smart friendfeeder I want to introduce to him (Chris, me and that guy share the same love for personal relevancy)
- directeur
does this mean you will drop Disqus?
- Nick Halstead
Is there any way Js-kit and disqus can work together, there are some features I enjoy in disqus, does echo subsume all of them?
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Have you given up on your blog? I expected the link to take me to an article where you actually said something. Your constant linking to ff and little else is becoming annoying. Produce something of value or lose another follower and subscriber. Would have expected the link to tell what the hell Echo is and what JS-kit does and why a blogger should care. You waste my time with this crap.
- Bruce Keener
Just a follow-up on my last comment, Robert. You have so much talent, yet I feel like you are wasting it here. That's why I'm upset. Oh, I'm upset that I've wasted my time coming to find an article on Echo that didn't exist. But I am more upset that your talent is going down the drain, and you seem oblivious to it. A damn shame.
- Bruce Keener
I don't always "get" technology when it first arrives. Twitter being a prime example. Seeing a page of live twitter like responses though as a reader is not interesting for me. I would rather read through longer intelligent discussion. You're FriendFeed discussions are great, but the js-kit echo demo left me feeling blurry. Granted there are advantages, but am I just missing something, again?
- ASKJDOG
@askjdog you may wish to check out the matrix at the bottom of http://js-kit.com/echo it contains some of our thinking, which i am sure can be expanded upon ... for a deeper dive, click on "Synaptic Web" at the end of the matrix ... it is *one* view of the evolution of the web.
- khrisloux
Bruce: I was off filming an interview with them, I'm not going to write a damn blog post on my iPhone. Geesh. And anyway, I've already written about Echo before. This was just a tease for tomorrow's video.
- Robert Scoble
Nick: I'm very seriously considering dropping Disqus, yes. We're definitely going with JS-Kit over on Building43.com and I'll consider it after using it a while there for my blog.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, how does it compare to the Disqus Reactions?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: from what I've seen so far JS-Kit is real time, while Disqus isn't. But not sure I'm comparing the newest Disqus stuff. Is Reactions new or is it what I'm already using on my blog at http://scobleizer.com ?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, the Reactions feature is what's below the comments, under "Reactions:" on your blog
- Jesse Stay
I'm betting that Disqus will have an equivalent out very soon - if so, is it really worth switching just for real-time, considering you'll have real-time shortly?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I think real time is worth switching for, but then you see how I use real time here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
I'm betting Disqus, because they've had a chance to see the competition, will release something better. I'm just not one to switch back and forth constantly though.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I still haven't switched my blog, but we did go with JS-Kit on Building43 because the JS-Kit folks seem to be ahead of the Disqus ones. We'll see if we switch my blog.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks @khrisloux I'll read that article, and take another look at the feature matrix.
- ASKJDOG
Either way both Disqus and JS-Kit are BOTH excellent systems from what I've seen, and I'm sure they will both continue to evolve.
- ASKJDOG
@Robert thanks for the lunch - was too much fun catching up again
- Chris Saad
Can't wait to try this but I'm going to extract my existing blog and test on an alternative platform
- Joe Dawson
good to read the discussion between Jesse and Robert: I very much want to choose the best commenting platform, and not switching bak and forth.. both disqus and current js-kit(future: Echo) have their plusses and minuses. Guess some sort of final decision on my side will take another couple of months, in the mean time staying with disqus and eagerly waiting for Echo...
- Jeroen De Miranda
Are either Echo or Disqus able to pull comments (not just posts) out from behind Facebook's garden wall onto one's own blog?
- David Sanger
Why use lists when the people I subscribe to are the ones I want to see? Only reason i have lists is to see specific people that I like to follow and catch up with at the end of the day. Kind of like RSS.
- CW™
no one likes change ,, change is inevitable ..
- johnpiercy
It's going to make HIDE much more important.
- Andrew Leyden
FriendFeed as the same potencial than Diigo and the same problem: not easy to use...
- António Teixeira
How dare you tell me how to use FriendFeed! (Except that you're right, of course; time to address my lists usage.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think that we have to introduce segmentation in our reading :) it is fun and exciting :)
- abdellah
I would like the icons back saying what type of service the post is from...possibly in the bottom right corner of the avatars.
- Paul Arterburn
My parents will hate how active the page is - the next generation, who go at the pace of Wall-E, will eat it up
- Christopher Galtenberg
haha, yeah I need to up my game in the lists - haven't had to use - but now I will. But I love it!
- Tony
That's dangerous. Lists require lots of thought, work, organization. If there's one thing we know from running Grazr, people do not want to do that (well most non-organization obsessed people). I think essentially forcing the use of lists is a big mistake for broader adoption.
- mikepk
so what's the first thing to do that's going to slow this down?
- Todd Jordan
I don't mind the speed, but I think there are more elegant things they could do with the UI during live updates (ie: fading to/from colors) and of course letting the user control speed of updates and UI effects.
- Ryan Stanley
when he name list, it mean filtering :)
- abdellah
Hmm... a few rooms (feeds now?) I created seem to be missing or just not easy to find. Will check out the tour to see if I'm missing something
- Dave Ferrick
woah neddy.....wouldn't tabs for search terms in the main page be a good idea...
- Paul Fabretti
the one problem with the speed is that what you are scanning suddenly jumps off the page. perhaps a way to "pin" what you are reading temporarily...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Yikes, is there a pause button somewhere?
- Sally Church
This mega-threaded replies really do float to the top.
- Andrew Leyden
needs a keyboard shortcut for pause. Or a contextual gesture (like hovering over some part of a story). Having to scroll to the top to pause is clunky
- mikepk
Weird when what you're reading wobbles because there are things going on above it - if the L&F remains, we can dub this the 'newquake' :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
I worried that the new oh my god it refresh so fast kill the conversation in FF, I havn't to worry robert thread will be there as long or may be longer then ever
- abdellah
I can't WAIT until the twitter-only crowd starts bitching about all of the friendfeed meta convos that are "cluttering up" their twitter streams
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Thomas, thank you, thank you! I was getting dizzy just trying to read anything. I hate the fugly UI and the RT speed. Going back to Twitter, at least one can read in peace at own pace there.
- Sally Church
dave!! do you want to read your FF list in an rss reader?
- abdellah
It pays to be a newbie right now I guess. The speed is to slow. I actually appreciate it being slow right now, gives me a chance to better understand it
- Russ Jackson
Yeah, I have my list paused now. I think we will get used to it anyway. It is fun to watch so many different reactions in so little time.
- Carlos Lorenzo
Have to say -- the message threading is now very nice indeed. Love the automatic update of comments, too. As I typed this, a couple others came in and didn't disrupt. Sweetness. Now I need to learn about lists.
- Anthony Baker
This is really nice so far..liking the realtime comments -DMs are a great addition. Time for more exploration :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I said the same thing, but then everyone told me I gotta use Filters instead....
- Bwana ☠
Lists are king :) Also, just figured out that ROOMS ---> "FEED" - everything is a "feed" type now
- Susan Beebe
Your green aura frightens me, Mr.Grinch.
- Terence
As I'm one who thinks the quality of interaction went down when lists were added, being forced to make more lists doesn't seem a positive.
- Todd Hoff
I thought the whole point of FF was that you didn't have to "learn" a lot about the interface in order to enjoy the experience. Lists kinda ruined things for me, so if that's the only way to enjoy the new FF, I guess I won't be.
- Jennifer Dittrich
David: I am using Safari as my FF client. Jennifer: that's never been true. This is a lot easier to learn than the old interface.
- Robert Scoble
This will force me to better use lists...
- Seth Meranda
You are the Captain Ahab of social media, Robert. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
The problem is using lists more actually decreases conversation IMHO. I dunno.....
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
There's also the pause button at the top of the page to stop the auto update.
- John F Morton
Yep, agreed. Learn to use lists, use filters, ya gotta learn that sooner or later. I had to do it in Facebook some time ago.
- Tom Parish
Do you have a formulas that you use for your lists?
- Ed Entrepreneur
The filters are only marginally useful. I don't see any way to filter stuff out of a feed. The options for searching/filtering seem just too basic to be any real use.
- Brian Sullivan
Robert, if this is how you've been following Friendfeed ever since you've started, you've become my personal hero. Either you have superpowers or you were born in Krypton.
- Jordi Soler
from twhirl
you need the pause button accessible from anywhere on the page. I'm 70 plus comments down on this conversation and the screen keeps pushing it down and makes the screen "jittery" to keep your eye on what you are reading. Because the screen is moving fast, you probably need 'comment' 'like' and 'hide' links on each nested conversation on anything over 30 comments
- Lou Paglia
now robert may we ask you to share with us some tip about list?!!
- abdellah
Brian: what would you like to see in filters?
- Robert Scoble
if you think the new FF is too fast, stop trying to follow Scoble's threads ;)
- Ryan Stanley
I'm gonna start on the lists :) Way too fast.
- Roberto Bonini
Any way to pause on an individual user's page?
- Aaron Fowler
abdellah: you need to build lists around interests and personality types. So "noisy jerks" go in one list "quilters" go in another "posts lots of bacon" goes in another "tech geeks" goes in another. Jordi: my life has been real time for more than a year now. This takes it to a new level, though.
- Robert Scoble
I would like to see negative searching for one thing -- I want to see everything that doesn't have LOLcats in it for example.
- Brian Sullivan
we need a keyboard shortcut for pause. Would help read comments, etc
- shaun mclane
We asked for ways to better track our discussions - and now we have an improved version (due to convenient link).
- Mike Reynolds
@Brian Sullivan search for cats -lolcats should eliminate them from your results
- Ryan
robert, I was thinking like hope that some will not screw the schema of filtering, notice that when we filter using keyword some will may probably try to target some keyword in their feed title .
- abdellah
Robert - yep - this definitely is not for the faint hearted. Must be on crack to use this! LOL
- Susan Beebe
It's an interesting interface. I'll be looking to see if conversations can still occur with this type of flow.
- AJ Kohn
Im curious Robert how many subscriptions do you show under your Subscriptions box. I have 9 and than 90 more.
- Russ Jackson
'welcome to my world' ha ha. i think with all the love the RS gives friendfeed on a regular basis it only made sense to improve it
- AJK
Agreed. I'm going to have to learn to make new feeds to keep using this. Also, I may have to do something to get rid of this light grey background.
- Ted Roden
Would you agree that after clicking on the more link there needs to be better organization of that page or can that be organized through lists as well.
- Russ Jackson
I need to be able to post updates from a list if they're going to be encouraging me to use lists.
- Jesse Stay
The lists/filters system is too complicated
- DarknessFalls
The problem is that lets say a video is shared, and I'm watching the video - the page keeps going down, and I can't finish watching the video inside FriendFeed! That's not sharing, is it?
- Daniel Brusilovsky
My problem is the lists and the filters create more feeds which create more need for more organization.
- Russ Jackson
@Daniel Good point. Perhaps they could open Videos (and similar stuff) in a modal window, allowing the content to scroll ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I think if they auto-pause the UI while I'm mousing over it that might help. It wouldn't need to pause long, just a few seconds.
- Matt Griffith
I don't foresee myself being a pioneer on the new FFeed, so hoping to see some interesting articles now that the embargo time has passed
- AJK
Just clicked pause for a minute but the counter for queued items doesn't show!
- Damian Holmes
Another suggestion on the new real-time updates. Give me keyboard shortcuts to pause the feed. Using my mouse is too slow in a fast-moving feed.
- Jesse Stay
There's alot to complain about FriendFeed and it's UI. Still has alot of problems to address.
- Chris Rodgers
I think the number of comments went from zero to +100 in les then 45 minutes.
- Peter van Teeseling
Ryan -- the "-lolcats" search doesn't do that from what I can tell -- it returns an empty feed. I would also like to be able to search for posts having less than a certain number of likes/comments as well as more . I would like to be able to set up searches/feeds for complex expressions ("-lolcats and -loldogs" or "-lolcats and -loldogs" from a group of people with more than 10 likes and 0 comments for instance).
- Brian Sullivan
I Can only image a multi-column FF layout...
- Greg Lato
it will happen Greg... has to... would probably actually lessen the jitter effect
- Christopher Galtenberg
UI Tweaks, please: keyboard pause, pause button/key on every page with live updating, comment link at end of comments
- Aaron Fowler
I love how fast it is going. It's really real-time.
- Peter Kruit
Needs a "slow it down" toggle - maybe a slider for the speed?
- Jesse Stay
OMG! I see why you bought a separate monitor.
- LeighaB
or we have the option of ignoring ff just like twitter gets ignored when I tried to reciprocate even a portion of the followers
- Susan Reynolds
@Leigha: Yeah, I can definitely see the need for another monitor for this version of FF. I'm considering it myself.
- AJ Kohn
OK, Now I see how the lists work. Much easier to manage.
- LeighaB
FriendFeed should take that as a sign - you shouldn't *need* a second monitor to use their service.
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse: I view this as a better way to access the data flow - which is what I believe FF is at the end of the day. Why not have a separate place to conduct my data queries while I do other things?
- AJ Kohn
@Brian The negative searches work, but you can't just search for "-lolcats". That's just a blank search. Try "cats -lolcats"
- Aaron Fowler
For Twitter, the only way I listen in is via search.twitter.com or pure luck. Or via FF for that matter. I view more Twitter content on FF than on Twitter itself.
- Mike Reynolds
Brian, yeah I badly want to filter out lolcats too; -cat friends:maverickny seems to work so far
- Sally Church
Yeah following 11.5k people is hard. I really need to use lists
- Nicholas James
Andrew Leyden is totally right. It's like IRC.
- Ian Betteridge
one of my favourite descriptions of twitter: "like IRC meets the whole world"
- Dean Whitbread
I'm sorry @scobleizer but your world must die ;)
- A.T.
I use lots of lists and filters - I'd love to TURN OFF the real-time updating, please.
- Bill Sodeman
I could use a tutorial on how to use lists but do not have the time anyway :o)
- David Gross
the new friendfeed filters are awesome. even better than friend lists.
- Mike Bruder
by the time i have made a list, this page would have vanished :)
- Tatty Gibson
I'm back home & trying to catch up with what's up with the new FriendFeed - I'm assuming it's now live?? Also, I'm not noticing things moving too fast... is that because I'm not following as many people as many of you???
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
ill admit friendfeed looks pretty damn compelling. certainly complex at first blush.
- doubledrat
Moving people from out of my home feed to a different list one at a time is extremely slow. If there's a way to move people out of a list and into a different list in bulk, I haven't found it yet.
- Chuck Baggett
Is there any way to select almost everyone on your home list and move them to a different list in one operation? (Similar to how you can checkmark hundreds of messages in Gmail and perform an operation such as tagging or archiving on all of them at one time.)
- Chuck Baggett
FF2Disqus has re-emerged and is in private beta. Just leave a comment here if you'd like to participate. (*UPDATE:* please go to http://friendfeed.com/rooms... for more information)
It works, provided you have Disqus enabled on your Tumblr blog and that the link in FF points that back to your Tumblr entry. Look at Fred Wilson's Tumblr entries on FF as an example: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Carter Rabasa
I see you are only syncing one way at the moment so comments made on tumblr items in friendfeed should show up on the disqus comments on the tumblr blog? Still not doing that for me at the moment though.
- Boris Gordon
@cubanlinks I'd like an invite to FF2Disqus. Thanks ;-)
- Czar
Is the mulitple post item fixed? FF has been a mess because of this service.
- Anika
@Anika, the short answer is "I believe so". It was a caching issue outside of my control. The more important point is that comments are no longer pulled into FF. That "feature" just isn't worth the mess it makes, even without dupes.
- Carter Rabasa
I'm game for helping you test FF2Disqus.
- Joe Burnham
This is another welcome Disqus app, and I would like to try the private beta version. I already use Disqus to integrate Facebook Connect with my Blogspot blog (manofmanywords.blogspot.com) and this would be the perfect addition.
- Will Conley
@mersenne @Rutger @Thomas @Noah Invited!
- Carter Rabasa
@Noah, check-out the FF room I invited you to. It'll have the link to the hosted application.
- Carter Rabasa
Carter, does it mean that what I set previously needs to be re-set? Can I get an invite? Thanks
- Flavio
@flapic, yeah I wiped all users due to the glitches the app was having. plus, I no longer need your FF remote key, so that was nice to erase (I hate storing credentials). anyway, you're invited!
- Carter Rabasa
wait, why is it private beta now again, since it was open some days ago? pls let me in again to sync my friendfeed/disqus commets. may i have an invite pls?
- natadd
@natadd there were a few kinks that caused some issues. I wanted to make sure that a) I knew who was using the service b) people knew it was a beta and c) people had a place to leave comments and feedback. You've been invited!
- Carter Rabasa
thanks for the invite, but where/how should I get it? Email? twitter?
- natadd
I sent you an invite to a private FF room.
- Carter Rabasa
okay, thanks, but I didn't get an invite yet. how should i receive it? twitter? email?
- natadd
You should get an email. There should also be a link in the upper-left of FF that indicates that you have requests waiting for you. I'll try and invite you again.
- Carter Rabasa
I'd love to participate. Thanks for your work on this!
- Brent Evans
@Tobias. I don't see your information in my database. If you "turn-off" FF2D, it deletes your record, so maybe that's what happened? Anyway, feel free to sign-up again. @Noah, I just looked at your feed and it seems like comments are syncing fine. Any more information I can look at?
- Carter Rabasa
I'd like to have a play with this, it's something that's I've wanted for a while.
- Daniel W. Crompton
Daniel/everyone: If you'd like to try FF2Disqus check-out our FF room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms.... If you have any questions or comments, please post or comment in that room. Thanks!
- Carter Rabasa
I'm definitely interested in this integration. Please include.
- Kenley Neufeld
Louis, thanks for the heads-up on FF2Disqus. I decided to go with just the FriendFeed-to-Disqus sync and not the "Full Sync". Pretty cool stuff.
- Andrew Meyer
Seriously missing functionality, been waiting for this for a while
- Mo Kargas
I tried to add Disqus to my blog (blogger template) but I kept getting an error. Has anyone run into that or know how to fix it?
- Amani
Have selected Full Sync but so far not seen any activity but then again it's only really me responding to the off chance comments and testing ha!
- Joe Dawson
I've enabled it. Would certainly prefer a DISQUS solution, but it seems to work. Painless, too.
- Chris Baskind
It's certainly interesting, but I don't think I'll bother. It's not like coldacid.net gets many comments, anyway, and I'd much rather see the comments show up as full-fledged posts by the people who made them originally, rather than comments by me. (I hope that makes sense.)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
There are a few flaws with the execution of this: 1) it syncs comments for long dead FriendFeed entries, or at least it was, see: http://friendfeed.com/jbruin 2) The comments synced are written by the post owner, so there's no way to moderate them on a user level (I can't block people, only the post owner, because of this), 3) it shoehorns two different conversations into one area,...
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- Mark Trapp
Loic, it worked for me. Interesting you say it did not. I assume on your main blog? Did you go one way or two way?
- Louis Gray
Chris, your comment makes perfect sense. Most of us want to hog the conversations for ourselves, but I like your philosophy. Let a thousand flowers bloom?
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Well, it wouldn't really be hogging the conversation for myself, so much as hogging it on behalf of my commentors.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
After trying it on a couple sites (technically, it worked), I'm not sure about it yet. i agree the fractured conversations are dissonant. Will leave it working a few days and see how I feel about it.
- Chris Baskind
Is it supposed to sync comments on the friendfeed item for the blog post or the friendfeed item for the disqus feed? Not working at all for me for a tumblr site. Why should that matter anyway? The setup seemed to work ok, supposedly linking my tumblr service in friendfeed to the right disqus blog. Nothing happens though.
- Boris Gordon
Somehow that number doesn't pass the smell test
- Brian Sullivan
It's not the 50,000 falls while he was learning I worry about. It's the 500 he will take now that he is big, fast and clumsy. He seems more so near walls and large posts in the ground.
- Sean Brady
"Why do we fall, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up again." - Dr. Thomas Wayne
- Craig Ritchie
from twhirl
Brian, if a baby learns to stand up and walk well over a 9 month period or approx 270 days, this would yield about 185 falls per day on average. I bet there's a logarithmic drop off of falls, however, but oh well. I've seen babies do a pop up and down thing early on which could easily skew the average. Anyway, 185 drops on ave does sound a little high, but it may be at the right...
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- Loren Heiny
i think you could replace the word "babies" with "entrepreneurs" or "startups" and the 50,000 number would be just about right.
- dave mcclure
very well said Louis - if you have nothing to write about because you didn't have a great idea or because nothing interesting happened, then just don't write. The hardest thing about being a paid blogger is having to come up with interesting things to write about every day (but my threshold for amusement is pretty low, so that typically isn't a problem :)
- Frederic
Well written...I was wondering when you were going to write something on this :)
- Justin Korn
@Justin, one part of relaxing is knowing you don't have to write about every meme either. I was going to let this one go, but decided to pile on this evening.
- Louis Gray
blogging is like golf - its a challenge and reward for the individual. you don't play or write to keep up or pass others, it really is a very personal experience. trying to do it as a competition is the best way to lose your way, lose your passion, lose your audience...
- Morgan
I have kept a schedule (not on purpose) for the most part, but haven't posted in a while. I was starting to get that anxious feeling, like when I miss a workout. I realize that I don't expect something new every day from my favorite blogs. I like the quality, not the quantity. This is just what I needed to see today, Louis. Thanks. :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Somehow this feeling to meet the quota is a built-in feature of blogs. Think of the calendar that highlights and links the days where you have posted an entry, think of the reverse chronological order of blogs - if you're pausing, the topmost content will start to age -, think of all those measurement systems that we use. All those things make it hard to persuade oneself that nobody's keeping score.
- Benedikt Koehler
From what I can see inside every blogger is a gamer yearning to be free. And everybody keeps score :D
- Moved to Facebook
True say Louis. I haven't posted in probably a week, for various reasons, but I'm not fretting over it.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I'm at the moment posting photos to break the silence between rants. Which is the point of a blog, no? Wish I could get my hands on the FF widget Sconle has on his blog. It would bring FF and my blogging closer together.
- Roberto Bonini
I just try to get my guests to interact period.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Excellent guest post... Louis the guest bloggers are great, it's very refreshing.
- Mike Fruchter
Refreshing as in that it's not me, Mike? :-)
- Louis Gray
Louis refreshing in the fact that it gives you more daddy time, and less time blogging for the interim.. Oh now don't even go there :-)
- Mike Fruchter
It's probably more definitional -- people equate prominence with remoteness. And the more they think you're famous the less they treat you like a person. That's been my experience at industry parties. Every interaction is someone trying to right some wrong they think you did them. If they didn't like the way you said hello that'll turn into a flamey blog post. Makes you want to have some more distance. People still have 20th century attitudes about fame.
- Dave Winer
Applying that kind of thinking to blogging is the most ridiculous perversion. Blogging exists to empower everyone to speak their mind. To then impose a hierarchy on it is to subvert the whole idea! Anyway, look for ways you penalize people for expressing their opinions and you might find some of the more "prominent" people coming back into the flow.
- Dave Winer
your chart is wrong (at least for me it was/is) - the n00b stage is where i interacted even more than i do today by a small percentage
- Allen Stern
Louis, you've always struck me as a person seeking to hear diverse voices, your "Guest Posts" proves this. Nice way to widen the discussion.
- michael sean wright
I've never thought of the blogosphere as having a hierarchy. Obviously some bloggers are more interesting to more readers than some others. Some bloggers are simply better at writing - at getting their thoughts onto paper; much the same as some very intelligent people make lousy speakers the same goes for blogging.
- Ian May
Definitely not for me. When I was a newb, there was a lot less interaction. Back when I started doing serialized posts on websites, there were seriously about seven or eight people on the internet who'd read that stuff. I was elated when my hit-count went double digits.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
ha, Louis. Branding the chart with the LG logo -- hardly n00bish. : )
- Robert Seidman
*This* is the great friend divide. Scoble got it all wrong.
- Benedikt Koehler
Thanks everyone for your comments. A lot of fun doing this. Dave Winer is definitely a Stage 4 guy, interesting to see his perspective. And Mark "Rizzn" - I remember well the thrill when hits went to double digits as well.
- Hutch Carpenter
Maybe it's also a country thing. In Germany there are no stage 4 bloggers. That's what I like about blogging in Germany ;-)
- Benedikt Koehler
Hutch - Good piece. I would argue that those promoting a specific product engage as many people as possible if they're going to use Twitter or other micro-blogging services (instead of some of the 'nutty' posts that sometimes look really bad). You never know who your next best promoter is. Agree totally that people shouldn't be insulted if they don't get an answer ... the first time :)
- Charlie Anzman
I'm blogging in Danish about Social media. I'm trying to get new people interested in the subject and my goal will newer be readers but the conversation and how I can push the Danish marketing community in a new direction. Every comment is still gold to me. I have my niche and I love it.
- morten saxnaes
Wow - Seth actually does get out there. Posted a comment to him.
- Hutch Carpenter
"I personally read and answer every single email I get " - seth. g - thats so true, I have emailed to him and he responds !
- Peter Dawson
Hutch, though not in called out in the post, in the original thread I did say Seth is *excellent* at interacting. There are different approaches to interacting. Seth posts his e-mail address on his blog, you don't. Neither approach wrong -- just different. As you note, Seth's posts do stand on their own. Maybe there's a blogging opportunity for someone to analyze Seth's posts and try to start the discussion..
- Robert Seidman
first off, it never ceases to amaze me that you can collect so many comments on friendfeed :). Secondly, I am curious how you are able to encourage people to guest post on yer blog, I have several peers with things to say and I have offered my blog as a forum but I have yet to get any takers
- gregory
@justin sounds like the digg effect! I was hoping my 'sorry, I have a meeting' post might get this love but I published on iPhone craze day and I didn't get any love... Oh well, keep posting
- gregory
What does Carl Icahn know about cutting-edge Internet technologies that Jerry Yang doesn't? This isn't a rhetorical question -- I'm curious.
- Sean McBride