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Daniel Mietchen
Welcome to ScribTeX, the online collaborative LaTeX editor. - http://www.scribtex.com/pages...
"ScribTeX allows you to work on LaTeX documents from anywhere with internet access and share them with your friends and colleagues easily. You can: * Create and edit LaTeX documents and automatically render them to PDFs; * View a complete revision history of all your files; * Keep your documents private, allow people of your choosing to view or edit them, or publish them to world; * Use BibTeX to keep track of your references and include them in LaTeX documents; * Upload images and include them in your LaTeX documents; * Create custom style files and use them in your LaTeX documents." - Daniel Mietchen from Bookmarklet
Interesting idea. Could be very useful, but the authors have a tough problem to solve - Latex is so complicated and dependent on all configuration issues (packages, macros, environment settings). Compiling Latex sources is a non-trivial task when done locally (e.g. I always have problems with images), not to mention remote compilation that works for all different types of documents that different people may want to create - Marcin Wojnarski
Bill Hooker
Citation Tracker: Monitoring Citations to your Publications - http://behind-the-enemy-lines....
"a tool that can augment Google Scholar and monitor Google Scholar (and other services like Libra, CiteSeerX, SSRN), and also monitor the Web (Google, Bing, Ask) for mentions of the paper. You can access a pre-alpha version at http://www.citation-tracker.com" - Bill Hooker from Bookmarklet
Nice idea, but I can't seem to get beyond the front page in Firefox. - D0r0th34
working ok for me in FF3.5 - Cameron Neylon
figured it out :) - D0r0th34
ok, what did you figure out. i'm stuck on the start page, too. - Christina Pikas
ah, you noticed that it put your e-mail name in the login instead of your user name. got it. - Christina Pikas
at a first glimpse it doesn't really work for me being an organometallic chemist. it's easier to check scifinder (chemical abstracts) to see if someone cited me or use the journal's citation alert. i assume since scifinder is a commercial product it's not possible to implement it? - Oliver Schuster
Ronald
Transparent aluminium is ‘new state of matter’ - University of Oxford - http://www.ox.ac.uk/media...
Transparent aluminium is ‘new state of matter’ - University of Oxford
That's so cool or 'Happy greets from Scotty of Star Trek IV' :) - Ronald from Bookmarklet
Yay *looks for klingon bird of prey* - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
^^ :)) - Ronald
Martin Fenner
CiteULike + BibDesk: Sync your references and live smarter: http://www.academicproductivity.com/2009... - Nathalie Cornee
CiteULike Plugin Developer's Kit - http://svn.citeulike.org/svn... - Nathalie Cornee
CiteULike traffic stats - http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... - Nathalie Cornee
CiteULike: Interview with Kevin Emamy - http://network.nature.com/people... - Martin Fenner
Kevin Emamy talks about CiteULike - Martin Fenner
CiteULike is totally Web-based. I haven't decided yet whether I prefer the web-only approach (Refworks, CiteULike, Connotea) or the web/desktop combo approach (Endnote, Mendeley, Zotero). - Martin Fenner
CiteULike allows PDF uploads. File can only be downloaded by user and private groups. - Martin Fenner
Importing references into Connotea and CiteULike appears to be easier (and faster) than with Endnoteweb and Refworks. - Martin Fenner
Kevin talks about how CiteUlike helps users discover interesting references that they otherwise wouldn't have found. - Martin Fenner
indeed, it's easy to search keywords in citeulike and retrieve other users who have used these tags previously - Nathalie Cornee
Tags and users allow the discovery of interesting related papers. - Martin Fenner
12 citation styles cover 90% of uses, so CiteUlike focussed on those. - Martin Fenner
You can drag & drop citations (in your preferred style) into your word processor document, or you export references as ris or rtf. - Martin Fenner
Other social features of CiteULike: connections, neighbours, and zeitgeist. Neighbours are users that have similar references in their library. Zeitgeist shows you the most popular references over a period of time (e.g. the last 7 days). - Martin Fenner
Kevin shows how PLoS articles have a link to CiteULike (showing the number of users tagging that article in CiteULike). - Martin Fenner
Kevin talks about the business model for a service such as CiteULike. The revenue from advertising alone would not be sufficient. Sponsorship by Springer is major source of income. - Martin Fenner
Really interesting to see the differences in what features are seen as important between Endnoteweb/Refworks and Connotea/CiteULike. - Martin Fenner
I like the CiteGeist feature, and not just because of the terrible pun! - Frank Norman
Interesting social features too - connections (like friends), messages, neighbours, groups. - Frank Norman
To get the bookmarklet to work for PubMed you need to get article URL in browser address bar, before clicking on the "Post to CiteuLike" button - Patti Biggs
Neither of the social bookmarking tools (CiteuLike or Connotea) allow for formatted text, accented characters etc in article titles, author titles - Patti Biggs
Accented chars? Yes we (citeulike) do that. Formatted text too as long as source and output formats compatible. - Fergus Gallagher
But does it capture greek, italic and superscripts from the source? - Frank Norman
I thought so - examples? - Fergus Gallagher
Ah, just realised that the presentations yesterday were all using Pubmed as their source, so wouldn't have a chance of capturing anything except plain text. I'll check this out later. - Frank Norman
LPH™ and his dog P™
[SteroidFeed]: Here is my new way of watching feeds on FriendFeed. I call it SteroidFeed but it is also a "Multi-Talk" style interface ... the file sits locally and allows me to view multiple topics. I've attached a copy of the simple html. Feel free to modify the html but please leave attribution and share your changes. Leave a URL if on Internet.
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Of course, the version I uploaded does not include my own entries but instead has the iPhone entry as an example. My local copy uses "from:lph" so I can see my entries and add comments quickly. (e.g., this comment is added through steroidfeed.html and not through the site. - LPH™ and his dog P™
If Adrian Veidt had FriendFeed instead of just satellite TV, this is totally how he would have read it. - Andrew C
There is a danger, Chrome has trouble with this many connections to FF. - LPH™ and his dog P™
I borrowed it here, LPH. http://friendfeed.com/louisgr... - Louis Gray
I've changed this file a bit so that a fourth column is available, and this holds a rowspan of my own entries. This makes tracking easier. - LPH™ and his dog P™
I should state that the fourth column is an embed so that I can add comments, photos, files, etc. - That code is similar to the one on my personal blog: http://www.layneheiny.com - LPH™ and his dog P™
SteroidFeed 1.01 is now available: http://friendfeed.com/lph... - LPH™ and his dog P™
Really cool! - matiasjajaja
hey i like this! - Susan Beebe
Have fun Susan - LPH™ and his dog P™ from iPhone
Interesting use of Iframes for this, gonna play with this, really cool LPH and his Dog. Thanks! - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Thanks! I'm trying it out now. - Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
Let me know Susan, Mark, and Dan. - LPH™ and his dog P™
Ah! I like. Thanks. - Christopher A Carr
You are most welcome Christopher Carr - LPH™ and his dog P™
Trying this on a 1024 x 768 resolution, 12-inch notebook - and it is fine with all four columns. - LPH™ and his dog P™
OK - so are you asking - can I span this across multiple monitors? -- because Elvis used to watch multiple t.v.s at the same time. - LPH™ and his dog P™
that's great! - PaperDoll
Keep it comin' :) - Charlie Anzman
I have made a meme of friendfeed embeds here: http://ff.clipotech.com/ - Svartling
Svartling - yes - your setup is nice. I've gone back and forth between 3 and 4 columns. My desktop setup can handle 4 but the notebook (1024x768) can only handle 3. Therefore, http://www.steroidfeed.com is only sitting at 3 right now. I'm also missing the instructions on how to make changes for anyone not familiar with FF. - LPH™ and his dog P™
Yes I was thinking of make 3 columns but I decided to make it 4 because my web stats shows that most visitors have a resolution at 1024x768 or higher. Maybe I will change to 3 columns. Hmm.. - Svartling
Really appreciated man, one of the best things for my following attitude - Amiroo ™
Michael Nielsen
"ArchivePress is a blog-archiving project being undertaken by the University of London Computer Centre and the British Library Digital Preservation department, funded by the JISC Information Environment Programme under its Rapid Innovation Grants Call (03/09). The project will explore practical issues around the archiving of weblog content, focusing on blogs as records of institutional activity and corporate memory. As an alternative to the web crawling/harvesting approach of the Internet Archive and the UK Web Archive, ArchivePress will test the viability of using RSS feeds and blog APIs to harvest blog content (including comments, embedded content and metadata). The archived content will be stored and managed using instances of Wordpress, thereby maintaining the blogs’ native data structures, formats and relationships." - Michael Nielsen
This sounds like it might overlap with our ONSarchive project - we are still looking for help with this: http://onsarchive.wikispaces.com/ - Jean-Claude Bradley
Bill Hooker
OA vs TA costs: I think I have finally got this straight. - http://www.sennoma.net/main...
Average TA publisher revenue per article $2500 - $3500. Unless I did something stupid. Edit: I did something stupid. See my comment #4 below. - Bill Hooker
Not stupid exactly... but there are revenue streams I'm not sure you've accounted for, such as royalties on e-reserves and per-article payments. The latter is probably minimal, but the former might add up to something. - D0r0th34
Thanks D. I've embedded this thread in the post as an update! - Bill Hooker
Gah. Note to self: post in haste, repent at leisure. Peter Suber pointed out that the NIH calculation results in an underestimate, and I realized I'd used the wrong average from the damn spreadsheet. I've quietly edited the post and am only owning up here. :-) Final numbers a little less dramatic, $2100 to $2900. - Bill Hooker
If Peter is factchecking you, that means he thinks you're on to something, you realize. - D0r0th34
What I find interesting is the implication that the average TA publisher would have to charge *more than* $2100-2900 in order to switch to upfront-fee OA and maintain revenue. (I remain convinced that 90% is a decent estimate of the proportion of serials budget that goes to scholarly works, and we know the numbers are *under*estimates, and as D points out there are revenue streams specific to TA -- so in fact I'd say "at least $3000"). - Bill Hooker
That's interesting because the OA publishers/journals currently showing a profit (BMC, Hindawi, PLoS ONE) don't charge nearly that. Quite apart from the gouging that some TA publishers have been doing for decades, I wonder whether the new OA outfits are leaner and more efficient? An often-overlooked advantage of the OA model is that when there are fees, they are upfront and one-time. TA... more... - Bill Hooker
That's what worries me somewhat about the movement toward making gold OA an institutional fiscal responsibility. We haven't made much progress toward sustainability if we just dump an opaque TA system for an opaque OA one. - D0r0th34
Another (imo important and overlooked) point from Carl Bergstrom, by email: "It is certainly true that making the cost visible increases the competitiveness of the market. But there's more than that: when sold as toll access, Journal of Theoretical Biology and Mathematical Biosciences (for example) are economic complements. A library has to have one copy of each, even if the prices are... more... - Bill Hooker
Neil Saunders
A Principal Component Analysis of 39 Scientific Impact Measures - http://www.citeulike.org/user...
PLoS ONE, Vol. 4, No. 6. (29 June 2009), e6022. Background The impact of scientific publications has traditionally been expressed in terms of citation counts. However, scientific activity has moved online over the past decade. To better capture scientific impact in the digital era, a variety of new impact measures has been proposed on the basis of social network analysis and usage log data. Here we investigate how these new measures relate to each other, and how accurately and completely they express scientific impact. Methodology We performed a principal component analysis of the rankings produced by 39 existing and proposed measures of scholarly impact that were calculated on the basis of both citation and usage log data. Conclusions Our results indicate that the notion of scientific impact is a multi-dimensional construct that can not be adequately measured by any single indicator, although some measures are more suitable than others. The commonly used citation Impact Factor is not... - Neil Saunders
What we really need, now, is a simple web interface where you enter the most prominent old-school scores, apply the PCA and use the loadings to make a nice 'impact' bar plot. Find some nice labels for the bars, and Bob's your friend. - Egon Willighagen
Is this anything more than playing around with numbers, to get some more numbers? It seems to say more about the statistics that are calculated than about 'real' scientific impact. - Bob O'Hara
I'm with Bob, this was a waste of time. The whole thing is carried out at the journal level, that is, measures of *journal* impact. That idea is both mostly useless and well on its way to being obsolete (http://everyone.plos.org/2009...). The whole problem with the IF is that it's not sufficiently fine-grained for use where we really need metrics, at... more... - Bill Hooker
+1 Bill! - Björn Brembs
Cameron Neylon
Pub-sub/syndication patterns and post publication peer review - http://blog.openwetware.org/science...
What this makes me think about is incentives, again. Why do people do peer review? People comment on blogs for all kinds of reasons; how many of them obtain in the article-review space, and what could we do with that? I like your proposal, Cameron, but it feels a little too build-it-and-they-will-come for me to endorse it wholeheartedly. - D0r0th34
Actually I wouldn't even recommend building it at the moment - just thinking that the problems match up. My guess is that the reasons people do formal peer review are not the same as the ones that drive blog commenting/reddit whatever. The latter involves validation by having other people respond and depends on very rapid turn around. No-one ever gets a specific return on peer review... more... - Cameron Neylon
*nodnod* - D0r0th34
Pretty sure the Kabuki analogy is from Bora: "the formalized kabuki dance of the use of Scientese" http://scienceblogs.com/clock... - Bill Hooker
mmm - that's helpful - but I think it post-dates the conversation I had with Michael which would have been SciFoo '08 so around July...I need some sort of instantly accessible annotated record of every conversation I've ever had.. hmmm - Cameron Neylon
Was Bora at that meeting? Maybe he got it from Michael at the same time. - Bill Hooker
I don't believe so - entirely possible it is independent - or conversely that I've constructed the memory out of bits and pieces - Cameron Neylon from twhirl
Incentives, incentives, incentives. We need more of these kinds of posts! Thanks Cameron. I so wish our grant would go through, we could develop something like this for the small scale and see how communities adopt it and how incentives need to be tweaked. - Björn Brembs
I remember the phrase coming up in conversation, at about the same time as Cameron remembers. But I don't think I said it (don't think I've ever used "Kabuki dance" in conversation), although I wouldn't absolutely swear to that. My memory is that it was, um, Cameron, who said it. - Michael Nielsen
:-) Oh dear...I'm pretty positive it wasn't original to me...anyone else want to claim credit? - Cameron Neylon
I think this has been discussed here before. I think those discussions ended with proposing that we needed something like what we have on FF. Someone uploads something somewhere, like on their personal website. Then everybody can comment at it here/at a central place to make sure that we all follow the same discussions. Of course, FF's format isn't actually all that ideal to properly... more... - Wobbler
Comment from David Crotty on the blog post that bears some thought - Cameron Neylon
Yes, I think you're both right. Although I still think your "control" perspective is more relevant as a "everyone communicating on the same platform" perspective. I don't think it's so much about control as it is about visibility, acknowledgment and accreditation. After all, when you submit a peer review report you're also giving away your hard work over to the journal editors. You no... more... - Wobbler
I'm thinking that that's quite an important point. What I'm reaching towards is that we need to create a market in comments and related information - that satisfies the "why bother" argument - but to do that the comment/information has to start off in the authors control. Haven't had time to reply to David properly yet as have been away but need to follow up on that... - Cameron Neylon
But anyway, let me focus on the idea of potential solutions for a second. Let's say someone has thought of a potentially good idea on how to improve/encourage open scholarly communication and collaboration. And say that it requires some IT infrastructure. So you would need a (small) development team and finances to support such a team. What do you do with such an idea? "Just" blog it?... more... - Wobbler
I generally take the "blog it, discuss it, try to get as many people interested as possible, then realise I don't have enough time to keep up, then worry about trying to find funding, then...."...I don't know what the best approach is but trying as many as one has resources to chase seems a good approach - Cameron Neylon
Ally with Science Commons. They seem to like good ideas, and help people make them happen. - D0r0th34
@CN: Would you try to publish it first before you try to blog it? I'm not just talking about sudden ideas popping in your head, but perhaps an idea that popped up in your head and that you've been refining for quite some time. @D0r0th34: I see, that's interesting. So there is a "for scholars" kind of organization to make these kind of things happen. Thanks for the tip :) - Wobbler
Wobbler - arguably I have done exactly that with "the web native lab notebook" which was a blog post, a talk, and a slidedeck, and is now submitted as a paper, similarly the Google Wave stuff. Most has been blogged rather than published as in my view that is a more effective and efficient way of getting it in front of (at least some of) the right people. The fact that I am now trying to... more... - Cameron Neylon
I see. Interesting, thanks for sharing. - Wobbler
Paulo Nuin
You can now share files on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Even naysayers must admit the broad utility gap this opens b/t FF & Twitter... - Noah Gray
Oh, the amount of OpenData we can now share... Jean-Claude, forget wikis, repositories, etc: just put your NMR spectra on FriendFeed! :) - Egon Willighagen
Of course... the first mp3 is already shared... - Egon Willighagen
So FriendFeed is now a repository, all searching problems are solved :) - Richard Akerman
Oh, and let's not forget that old FF threads get lost... but then again, JC already showed that old solubility measures may be inaccurate anyway :) - Egon Willighagen
Egon - I think the JCAMP-DX files have to be in the same folder as the JSpecView JAVA files to work - Jean-Claude Bradley
Still this could be a very handy feature to play with (I'm still waiting for Wave to consider replacing many of the wiki functions :) - Jean-Claude Bradley
I'm sure this will integrate perfectly with Wave, can't wait. - Colby
Is this FF's move an anticipation for Google Wave? - Paulo Nuin
Robert Simpson
Would be interested to know what you all think of my arXiv on Twitter ('Tweprints') project. Comments, suggestions, improvements, modifications... http://orbitingfrog.com/arxiv/
Interesting, but not enough physicists on Twitter to make it truly useful yet. - Matt Leifer
I thought it was really cool - many x& society, but that's what I study ( edit stupid typo) - Christina Pikas
Really interesting service, Robert. Have you looked at postrank.com? They combine a whole bunch of factors (tweets, delicious bookmarks, links, likes on FriendFeed) to provide "engagement ratings" for blog posts. It'd be interesting to see similar engagement ratings for papers, and your service seems to be in that vein. - Michael Nielsen
Didn't know it was you who created it - thanks! What do you think of providing your interface for reading other kinds of journal alerts, particularly those from the fledgling Pubfeed ( http://bit.ly/URISv )? - Daniel Mietchen
Am playing with Pubfeed now... like it so far. - Robert Simpson
Way cool. Too early to tell what it will really be able to do, but you're piling up interesting data. - Bill Hooker
Should possibly point out this blog post detailing the stats so far: http://orbitingfrog.com/blog... - Robert Simpson
Regarding the postrank style engagement ratings, yes I have been thinking of how to display a 'reach' factor and/or a retweet factor. This info is all in the database already.As for Pubfeed, I am figuring out how to expand it beyond Twitter into Google blog search, Facebook open stream etc. Pubfeed might be a good way to do that but they only have 100-ish users so far. - Robert Simpson
Robert - lots of potential in your tweprint impact metrics if they could be adapted to other URI schemes (e.g. DOI). See also the discussion at http://ff.im/47WYV . - Daniel Mietchen
Another interesting discussion on such metrics or indicators is at http://bit.ly/2dNCUa . - Daniel Mietchen
aarontay
librarians who have done pitches/explained twitter. any tips on what to cover? To clarify we talking about setting up twitter accounts for libraries.
We are currently going from one twitter account of a special library, @wiwibib, (which is part of a bigger university library) to (at least one) more twitter account(s). I like to point colleagues to the simplicity and the multiple uses of twitter. As Anne Christensen (@xenzen on Twitter) pointed out at a german library conference two weeks ago, you can try Twitter "without anybody watching", you get instant feedback, you can interact, and you can count interactions/followers. - Lambert Heller
General advice: Keep theory short; show them pictures and tell stories of good practice. Try (if not to risky) to start twittering without telling anyone at your institution and then share your experiences afterwards. - Lambert Heller
I agree with Lambert's advice - maybe one more point: try to identify patrons of your library who twitter. In a university setting, this probably won't be hard. Sometimes there are even twitter groups for a university or a town. This is a point where librarians can clearly see the benefits of "joining the conversation" - especially if there are tweets about the library. - Anne Christensen
And then you follow them that they follow you? - Oliver Obst
No, I wouldn't do that. If appropriate, I reply to things they say and ask. And it helps to know some of your institution's twitterers personally. - Anne Christensen
It'd be appropriate to follow institutional accounts I think - eg the uni twitter account, the computer science department's account, that kind of thing - but for personal ones, unless you know the person they might feel a bit stalked. OTOH if they follow you, then definitely follow them back. - Deborah Fitchett
Hmmm, but users with public Twitter accounts expose themself to the public, and for being followed, don't they? Rule of thumb at my institutional Twitter account: Follow individuals at faculty as soon as they twitter about university topics. So far, nobody complained. - Lambert Heller
I never understood why library accounts follow other institutional accounts. As an individual I can see why I would follow say my uni account (to keep track of news), but why would a library account do so? If I was truly interested in what it was saying, I would view it from my individual account not my library twitter account. One possible reason, follow "Reputable sources" to signal to users who to follow... - aarontay
I think it's makes a lot more sense to follow users, because in theory if you see one of them tweet about "library" (even if not mentioning your institution) in your stream, you know they are talking about you... But this get's unwieldy if you have thousands of followers. - aarontay
jintan
Twitter Search Results on Google for Greasemonkey - http://userscripts.org/scripts...
twitter search in real time - jintan
ScienceWorld
Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Google wave and implications for science « petermr’s blog - http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs...
Enro
Topic suggestion: in order to promote science blogs, we should know more about their use, understand what they are changing and back up our grand claims with data... But how would one conduct such research? Run a survey to know about who the bloggers and their readers are? Create a typology of science blogs? Analyze the content of the discussions?
Unfortunately I cannot think of a nice title for this talk/session... Perhaps "Studying science blogs"? - Enro
Now, some more context around this suggestion: I recently wrote a research proposal on science blogs and although I already answered some of the questions above, I wanted to hear what the community has to say about it. Also, if we agree on a shared agenda and common research "priorities", we may progress as a global community. And who knows, maybe some of us will actually get money to run one piece or another of this research... - Enro
I juste realized that this is exactly the point Christina Pikas made after last year's conference http://christinaslibraryrant.b... : "A lot of what's coming across is people claiming value and other people not getting it. Or maybe, people claiming different benefits and arguing against each other. Also unsupported (like those I... more... - Enro
@Enro TBL coined the term "web science" for the scientific study of the web and people's behaviour on it. I think "Blog Science" is still there for the taking presumably? - Cameron Neylon from twhirl
@Cameron Right, I am already loving it :-) Although the right term would be "science blog science"! - Enro
Jim Hendler writes an occasional post about "web science" at Nature Network. - Maxine
thanks @Enro - this is what I study - informal scholarly communication in science and impacts of social computing technologies (primarily blogs) It's such an interesting topic - could really be studied at all levels (structural using SNA like my IEEE paper), group/community, individual (did a qualitative study on that) - Christina Pikas
Egon Willighagen
Open Data: license, rights, aggregation, clean interfaces? - http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/2009...
Too much to think about to respond sensibly at moment but just one point is that there are two issues, one is the technical issue - can it be managed legitimately - and the other is the social confusion issue - how many people do you lose because they assume that you're not allowed? I would certainly make the assumption that I can't mix CC-BY, GFDP, and oDBL together so would walk away.... more... - Cameron Neylon
The thing is, we have pretty much all the technology to not have to mix the data. That is really the point I want to make. Look at what Bio2RDF does... they have a common (SPARQL) interface, but the data in different databases. Hence, they have no need to mix the data, but only link the data. And linking the data can go even via a clean, independent interface... InChI, for small molecules, rdf.openmolecules.net for InChI's as URLs... - Egon Willighagen
ah man I need to think about this properly. Are you going to be online for the OKF working group meeting this afternoon? - Cameron Neylon from twhirl
Yes, I planned to. - Egon Willighagen
Required reading for anyone interested in Open Data. I would still say PDDL/CC0 makes things simpler by removing all question, but I *think* you may be right about clean interfaces making PDDL/CC0 not strictly necessary. - Bill Hooker
Cameron Neylon
finally managed to get to end of Google Wave keynote. Blown away...many things that were looking real tough may now fall into place easily
I really need to find an hour to watch that... - Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
Yes you do. And I need to figure out how to get on the inside or find five developers who want to start building stuff...imagine that spell check/translator/linking backend hooked up to an ontology browser just for starters. But the real beauty is in aggregation and republishing mechanisms. This is taking Jon Udell's pub-sub paradigm to a whole new level. - Cameron Neylon
For all the complaining we do on friend feed about science apps, you'd think we'd be able to put some ideas together, pitch them to an angel group, and actually produce something we'd all like to use. - Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
My thoughts exactly - or conversely write the killer grant application (ideally with Google support) to develop something that works and test it in anger. - Cameron Neylon
The conflict resolution aspect is what sold it for me. Having worked with wikis quite a bit, I know how much of an issue this can be. Oh, and the real-time translation... also really cool. Can't wait for this to become available. - Ricardo Vidal
I do wonder how well the conflict resolution will work over dodgy connections or where you have bad latency - Cameron Neylon
Getting google backing would be a good selling point. - Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
Absolutely - believe me I'm on the case. Will be proposing "Making waves in laboratory notebooks" as a Scifoo session... - Cameron Neylon
I sent a link to this thread to Bill Flanagan (OpenWetWare lead developer) ... not sure if he's on friendfeed, though. - Steve Koch
It reminded me of what Rajarshi does with email - inline comments and almost instant response. Just waiting for all the wave puns - "Making waves in the gene pool" etc. - Andrew Lang
My s.o. was at Google IO where they unveiled it and I believe they all get test accounts. Not even in alpha yet but the potential is indeed huge. - Shirley Wu
Damn. I kept hoping that someone would come along and tell me that it wasn't worth watching, but everyone seems impressed. Guess I'll make some time soon. - Chris Miller
Between now and when Google Wave becomes publicly available is a good time to build extensions for scientists. I would be interested in working on a gadget, robots are best written in Java or Python. - Martin Fenner
Haven't seen it yet - would this be something to include in blog3? - Björn Brembs
+1 "Making waves in the gene pool", that's funny Andrew - Jim Hardy
am watching it now. Cool, very cool. Looks like I need to contact our grant agency where I just sent our grant application 2 hours ago... - Björn Brembs
Bjorn, I don't think it needs a complete change of direction. Blog3 (or any other semantic webby kind of thing) could easily be seen as a way of reprocessing or coordinating objects that are natively waves or as a way of authoring the connections between objects that are then sent out as waves. - Cameron Neylon
ps sorry I didn't get that letter to you. Basically been totally crap at delivering on anything in the past week. Apparently I don't scale well. Will try to be more useful in the future. - Cameron Neylon
One really does need to watch the whole video to get an appreciation for what this is truly capable of doing - Jean-Claude Bradley
Yup, especially the federation part towards the end. - Björn Brembs
Martin Fenner
Meryn Stol
I wish FriendFeed would make a "virtual" FriendFeed account for every Twitter user.
The account would only have to be "activated" from the moment on someone would want to subscribe to him/her. Otherwise, it would probably increase the load on FriendFeed unnecessary fast at this point in time. - Meryn Stol
But say if I wish to subscribe to @johndoe , who's not on FriendFeed, then I just want to be able to search for him on FriendFeed. Then I want to be able to add him like if he were a regular FriendFeed user. From this moment on, a virtual FriendFeed account is kept in his name. - Meryn Stol
It would also mean that people who try FriendFeed with their Twitter account, would be able to see all their Twitter friends, not only those who happened to use FriendFeed already. - Meryn Stol
Some sort of bulk import of Twitter friends and even Twitter groups created in Tweeetdeck and Tweetvisor would be most welcome. Paul mentioned a couple of weeks ago that they are working on something. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Hnnm, I'm very curious, Kol. :) - Meryn Stol
Yes, I remember asking for this - when running the "twitter" import cant it suggest imaginary friends for the people in twitter not on friendfeed - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
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Euan
The May 7th issue of Nature on Pirate Bay has 101 seeders. Beating The Economist, New Scientist, Men's Health and Top Gear magazine. BOOYAH
Martin Fenner
Reference Manager Overview 1.4 - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Reference Manager Overview 1.4
Flickr doesn't allow to replace pictures with newer versions. Version 1.3 had a small error: Endnote integrates with Web of Science (both are Thomson Reuter products) and not Scopus (Elsevier). - Martin Fenner
You should see a "replace this photo" link under "additional information", bottom-right on the photo page? - Neil Saunders
Thanks Neil. "Replace this photo" is a feature of Flickr Pro accounts (which I don't have). And replacing changes the name and therefore link, which breaks blog posts, etc. using this photo. I will look for a different service for this kind of information (slideshare and scribd do not support jpg or image formats that work in web pages). - Martin Fenner
Right, didn't realise that replace is a Pro-only feature. Flickr is the only web service for which I'm happy to pay. PicasaWeb is not bad? - Neil Saunders
Perhaps "Bookmarklet" should go into a category of its own, e.g. "Web browser intergration" or "Browser". I think the web GUIs of most databases are the easiest (in some cases: the only) way to retrieve information from different database fields etc. Comparatively, it's hard to do a sophisticated retreival from a Z39.50 frontend of a typical reference management application. Plus, more and more users are used to do the retrieval from their browser, making use of additional features and plugins, etc. - Lambert Heller
Some important points for good browser integration (from my point of view): Recognition of integrated metadata, like OpenUrl ContextObjects in Spans (COinS); Scrapers for metadat from individual important databases / sites; Integration of citation / screenshot / PDF storage by mouse click. - Lambert Heller
The problem with an overview chart is that many details are missing. I haven't looked in detail at how the bookmarklets are implemented. EndnoteWeb has browser support (they don't call it bookmarklet), but I had problems with it and it is only for IE and Firefox. - Martin Fenner
I'd say the problem with a feature chart is that a list of features is only half (or less) of the story. Some filled boxes are more equal than others. - Alexander Griekspoor
That may be, Alexander, but for someone who doesn't know that there are alternatives to Endnote, this does serve a valuable purpose. - Mr. Gunn
I'm curious - why does the "Read" section focus exclusively on PDF files? - Hilary
Maybe "Read" is not the best name. But I wanted a category that describes what reference managers do with PDFs beyond just linking to them. One use case is importing 100s of article PDFs sitting on your hard drive and retrieving the citations for them. - Martin Fenner
Martin Fenner
Popularity of online reference managers - http://network.nature.com/people...
What also needs to be figured in his how long these services have been around... - Björn Brembs
Thomas Brox Røst
Scientific writing and new patterns of scientific communication - http://eventseer.net/e/10234/
Interesting, only a couple of names on the organizing committee are familiar. Anyone know more about this meeting? - Bora Zivkovic
Cameron's on the committee... - Bill Hooker
I'm on the programme committee for the overall conference (i.e. I reviewed submitted papers) but don't know anything much about this workshop. I can't afford to go to the conference itself. - Cameron Neylon
The meeting is an international meeting that focuses on both social science using eScience tools but also social science on the use of eScience tools. Quite a varied programme - full of things I wish I could find time to pay more attention to - Cameron Neylon
John Dupuis
York University Libraries 2.0 - http://jdupuis.blogspot.com/2009...
Direct link to the newsletter article: http://www.library.yorku.ca/Faculty... - John Dupuis
nice! - jambina
We do these newsletters, but I always wonder if anyone reads them. Except for, you know, other librarians. - John Dupuis
nicely done - Richard Akerman
Another library joins friendfeed. cool. but private feed? Doing small survey on friendfeed http://blog.nus.edu.sg/aaronta... - aarontay from Friend Deck
Maxine
Nature Genetics on representing authorship in PubMed - http://blogs.nature.com/nautilu...
Important questions there on how to manage and acknowledge authorship - Cameron Neylon
Some great arguments for a serious reform of our reputation system in there! - Björn Brembs
John Dupuis
I'll be doing a presentation to faculty here on the benefits of blogging to promote their research. Thing is, I need a catchy title. My first impulse is something like: "Why Academics Should Blog" or "Using Blogs to Promote Your Research." Any suggestions for something more eye-catching?
Blog or Die. - Bill Hooker
Instead of Blogging for Dummies, how about Blogging for Deans? - D0r0th34
Publish or Perish 2.0 (just kidding, please don't use that) - Mr. Gunn
Blogito Ergo Sum - Bora Zivkovic
Get Funding through Blogging. Find Mass Appeal through Blogging. Captain's Blog - Far
Blogging: it does your research good - Shirley Wu
Blogging will increase your research dollars; here's why. - Sally Church
+1 Mr. Gunn. I don't have a good idea for a title, but one of your slides should probably show a list of who is blogging out there (and are also well-established scientists). I think that blogging is less about research, or grant money (it helps neither in a straightforward way and may even distract you), and more about outreach, intangibles, and long-term benefits. - Iddo Friedberg
Move Your Ivory Tower Online ... So You Can Shoot Arrows Into the Other Ivory Towers. - Polly Potter
Thanks everyone. Some great ideas. Frankly, I'm most tempted by Bill's suggestion but John's is closest to what I'm looking for. A lot of good ideas that I can incorporate for sure. - John Dupuis
Blogging: Now More Popular Than Porn? - Richard Akerman
Richard++ but only if it achieves Bloggasm - Bora Zivkovic
Plaxo or Publish? - j1m
A similar presentation that I did was called "Good Content Flows" with the meaning behind it being that the publication vehicle (blog, twitter, friendfeed) was less important than the quality of the content. - Jill O'Neill
Here's what I ended up with. I hope some faculty actually show up... http://www.yorku.ca/yul... - John Dupuis
Blogging for Tenure - Ladybug Heather
Heather FTW. Cut right to the chase. :) - D0r0th34
That got me thinking about faculty tenure requirement here. From the tenure doc: "Communication with the general public in a variety of forms and media will be a continuing necessity for the modern university, and outstanding contributions of faculty in this area must be recognised." A good quote to start the presentation, I think. - John Dupuis
BTW, did I mention how much I love all you freeps out there? - John Dupuis
Doubt many universities have a statement re "general public" like that. Very interesting! - carolh
nice title, John: "Research Frontiers: Academic Blogging // Promoting your Research on the Web." Let us know how it went! - Stephanie_Happy2010!
I'll post my slides when I'm done. I might even crowdsource a day or two before the session. - John Dupuis
"Dont bother blogging..its a waste of time" Not! - Hari
feel free to take any cues from my blog article title: "Science Blogging: The Future of Science Communication & Why You Should be a Part of it": http://biochemicalsoul.com/2009... - Daniel Brown
"A Comprehensive Overview of Rationales for Personal Academic Journals (Blogs) for Inclusive Peer Review, Comment, and Student Instruction." - Glen, Bespectacled Elder
uh, Glen, I don't know about you, but when I see the words "comprehensive, Overview, and Rationale together in a title, my eyes start glazing over already. - Mr. Gunn
isn't that the point? :) - Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I figured as much ;-) - Mr. Gunn
John - Before using that quote, you might want to ask around to see how seriously people think the University actually takes it. Many Universities make similar statements in their tenure guidelines, but then effectively tenure people based on research only, which can lead to cynicism. I saw a Deputy Vice-Chancellor beat a very rapid retreat once when he brought this up with faculty. To say the least, he got a derisive reception. - Michael Nielsen
Thanks, Michael. I have to admit I wasn't thinking of it that way. I imagine, though, that different depts and faculties will see things differently, probably getting a range of different responses. If anything, York's probably trying to spread as much positive stuff about itself as possible these days ;-) - John Dupuis
On the other hand, York's also a letter-of-the-document or we'll strike your asses off kind of place. - John Dupuis
I'm speaking to some cell biologists about blogging next month. I might just have to use some of these suggestions. Which, I guess, would be a good argument for micro-blogging! - Bob O'Hara
Bob, some of the posts I'm using for inspiration include Daniel's above (Thanks!) as well as this one: http://hughmcguire.net/2008... - John Dupuis
Blog or Slog - Stephen Anthony
I know I'm late to the party but how about "I started up a blog and all I got was five invites to give keynotes, ten new collaborators, introduction to new funding bodies, an interview in Nature, an invite to scifoo, three papers...and a couple of t-shirts" - Cameron Neylon
Cameron FTW. I don't have quite his amount of blogswag, but I've plenty. - D0r0th34
Yes, Cameron FTW! I don't think I've gotten the blogswag of either of you two, but it has been a great ride with some cool perks. - John Dupuis
Whew. Mostly done, a bit late for crowdsourcing as I'm on tomorrow morning at 10am but any easily accomodated suggestions would be appreciated. As you can see, I'm trying a bit of a Lessigy style: http://tinyurl.com/yulblogging - John Dupuis
Personally, blogging is about gaining alternative perspectives. Researchers need these alternatives to help them design better projects. - LPH™ and his dog P™
Ha! A snapshot of FriendFeed and tons of XKCD! Love it! - Bora Zivkovic
In my opinion, any topic that can't be enhanced and explicated by xkcd probably isn't worth talking about. - John Dupuis
Would Socrates keep a blog? - Dimitar Vesselinov
Socrates would have drawn xkcd - Bora Zivkovic
Edlef
Ich hoffe, ich bin richtig hier, obwohl ich mich nicht als Informationsspezialist bezeichne, sondern als Bibliothekar ;-)
Ach Edlef, seh das doch nicht so eng! Die Bezeichnung wurde doch nur gewählt, damit auch Leute wie ich, die gar keine Bibliothekare sind, aber in Bibliotheken arbeiten, eine Chance haben, sich diesem Kreis zugehörig zu fühlen. ;-) - Markus Trapp
für diese Gruppe: OK! Allerdings sehe ich es schon etwas enger, wenn ich sehe, dass "BibliothekarInnen" immer automatisch mit "InformationsspezialistInnen" gleichgesetzt wird....btw. Du bist inzwischen Bibliothekar, wie im im LISWiki lesen konnte? ;-) - Edlef
Edlef: Wer mich im LISWiki zum Bibliothekar gemacht hat, weiß ich auch nicht. ICH war es jedenfalls nicht. ;) - Markus Trapp
Also wenn wir anfangen wollten das noch einzeln aufzudröseln - ICH mache die Wikiseiten dann aber nicht... ;-) - Christian Spliess
Pedro Beltrao
It's good to blog : Editorial : Nature - http://www.nature.com/nature...
"there are societal debates that have much to gain from the uncensored voices of researchers. A good blogging website consumes much of the spare time of the one or several fully committed scientists that write and moderate it. But it can make a difference to the quality and integrity of public discussion." - Pedro Beltrao from Bookmarklet
"uncensored voices of researchers" - that's quite relative - Paulo Nuin
See http://network.nature.com/groups... Comments welcome. We will be updating our blogger policies so anyone who comments - will be heard! - Maxine
This is really good. I'm looking forward to reading responses - those online and those that might come later in the mail :) - Christina Pikas
The experience of journals such as Cell and PLoS ONE, which allow people to comment on papers online, suggests that researchers are very reluctant to engage in such forums. - Abhishek Tiwari
Abhishek nailed it! - Paulo Nuin
I'm relieved to see that Bora 'liked' this. But I'm worried that he hasn't blogged it yet. What has he been doing? Sleeping? - Bob O'Hara
@Paulo, @Abhishek - I don't necessarily think that researchers are reluctant, they just haven't been approached properly yet. I mean, people do occasionally blog about papers, and that takes more effort than commenting, but it's also more rewarding because it's their blog. So let's not pull a "who killed the electric car" and presume that one (possibly suboptimal) implementation of something is sufficient to gauge interest in that thing overall. - Mr. Gunn
Another related editorial in the last edition of Nature Methods (http://www.nature.com/nmeth...) - Pedro Beltrao
@Paulo - that comment from Abhishek is actually a quote from the editorial at the link. @Mr Gunn - the reluctance discussed is about comments on scientific papers - I don't know what Plos one does to encourage this but at Cell when they did their trial run they tried very hard to encourage readers to comment on the papers, to very little avail. "Blogging about papers" does go on quite a bit that I've seen, agreed. - Maxine
Still, nailed it, quoting or not. - Paulo Nuin
Let's forget the sociological reasons for a bit, because they are true (sad IMO). Looking at commenting patterns in various places, especially in somewhat higher brow magazines and opinion places, perhaps the best place for comments is always going to be some kind of nested structure at the bottom of the page. It's just a familiar experience. The other one belongs in a blog post - Deepak Singh
Jean-Claude Bradley
Open Notebook Science Claims and Logos - http://usefulchem.blogspot.com/2009...
Open Notebook Science Claims and Logos
Nice, J-C - Matthew Todd
I like the idea - but maybe condense the logo even more? Maybe right now we need to spell it all out but eventually I would imagine something more iconic like the CC licenses. - Shirley Wu
Thanks Mat - Jean-Claude Bradley
Shirley - we considered that but it got too cluttered. The compromise is that when you click on the logo it takes you to the claims page with precise descriptions (unless it is not on the actual page listing experiments - there the logo takes you to the actual lab notebook first). - Jean-Claude Bradley
Shirley I think I misunderstood your comment - yes ONS is currently spelled out - maybe we could have some versions that are more condensed - Jean-Claude Bradley
J-C, right, I was wondering if the logo said just "ONS" with the icons for the types next to it, if it people would understand what it meant, or if it would just obscure the meaning - Shirley Wu
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