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"Salt cones at sunset, Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia" Fine Art Print by James Brunker - utm_campaign: feed, utm_medium: feed, utm_source: RB [4202944-2] - RedBubble - http://ffffound.com/image...
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Salar de Uyuni is one of the places on my "Must see and photograph world tour" itinerary. Also the Namib Desert in Namibia, Antarctica and the Maldives.
- veo
@veo thanks for the tip!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
@veo is your "must see and photograph world tour" itinerary online some where? #smlask :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
It is now: http://friendfeed.com/veo...
- veo
:D
- veo
yay!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
#architecture #crazyisgood BURA NİRE!!!! Urban Forest | Fubiz™ - http://www.fubiz.net/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/isunix...)
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Scientists create the world's smallest 'snowman' the size a fifth of the wide of a human hair - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
aldenoneil, Kol Tregaskes, Tracy Benham and 6 other people liked this
"The snowman is made of two tiny tin beads, normally used to calibrate electron microscope lenses, which were welded together with platinum Photo: Dr Cox / National Physical Laboratory Experts at the National Physical Laboratory in West London made the miniature figure which is just 0.01mm across."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
It's cool and all, but what was the point?! haha
- Shevonne
they needed something to put that microscopic magic hat they found on.
- Joe Pierce
Science is awesome when it advances far enough to become pointless.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
That's no snowman!
- Morgan Haley
See-ming Lee 李思明 SML to See-ming's feed, SML Universe, RWW: The Future of Tech, TheNextWeb Forum, Web & Teknoloji
The Most Important Feature of a Multi-Device Web: Syncing - Bokardo #storage #sync #technology - http://bokardo.com/archive...
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"As the ecosystem of devices proliferates, with the iPhone and Android platforms coming into their own (along with the ever-impending iTablet), we’re seeing a single feature become the most important and critical piece of new technology: syncing. If you sync seamlessly across devices, people will love you for it. It’s why I love the Apple ecosystem. I add a calendar event to my desktop, iPhone, or web app, and it automagically appears on the others. All of my mail is synced in all of these places so I never have to worry about missing email or knowing whether I replied or having to delete the same messages over again. The amount of time that this saves is invisible, yet invaluable."
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
from Bookmarklet
AHEM.... correction: "The Most Important Feature of a Multi-Device Web: PORN." fuckin noobs
- LarchOye
@LarchOye haha!!! I guess you are right to some extent: my understanding is that it was the porn industry that pushed the HD-DVD format forward... but alas it lost to Bluray - clearly Pixar > Porn :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Jackie to Jackie's feed, Beautiful Women, Photo Gallery, Funny Pics and Videos, Funny Funny, Funny Stuff, Kinda Funny Pictures, Fun Stuff, Fun Stuff, Ideas & Inspiration
Damn Cool Pics: The Women of WTF - http://damncoolpics.blogspot.com/2009...
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"As you guys know, lots of people fail all the time. But it's especially funny when hotties fail, and they tend to fail pretty hard. So check out Hawtness, the Women of WTF."
- Jackie
from Bookmarklet
Neden böyle kızlar bizi bulmaz ki... Hep mi mallar odunlar denk gelir.. Geek kız istiyoruz!
- Berhan SOYLU
See-ming Lee 李思明 SML to See-ming's feed, Crazy is Good, Funny Pics and Videos, Funny Funny, SML Fine Art, ART ROOMََََ, GLOBAL ART, Art for Art's Sake !!, NYC, NYC ARTS, SML Universe
The No Pants! Subway Ride « Improv Everywhere #nyc #art #installation #crazyisgood #video: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - http://improveverywhere.com/mission...
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"The No Pants! Subway Ride is annual event staged by Improv Everywhere every January in New York City. Here is an overview of the history of No Pants from its inception in 2002 to today. No Pants 2002 The first ride included 7 participants, all male. One participant entered the train pantless for 7 consecutive stops. They pretended not to notice each other, and if asked claimed that they “just forgot” their pants. On the 8th stop, someone came through with a duffle bag selling pants for $1. No photographs were taken, but the above video was captured with our single a hidden camera."
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
from Bookmarklet
2009 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
"No Pants" is a great trend
- LarchOye
Another Science Fiction: An Intersection of Art and Technology in the Early Space Race – Blog – BERG - http://berglondon.com/blog...
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Paul Greer, Ami Iida, rowlikeagirl and 4 other people liked this
"This week, we’re proud to present a guest post from Megan Prelinger, cofounder of The Prelinger Library. Megan’s piece is the first in an occasional series of guest blogposts we're going to commission from friends, colleagues and others we admire. In it, she previews her book "Another Science Fiction: Advertising the Space Race 1957–62" that hits on some of our studio's obsessions - mid-20thC art, design and... rocketry..."
- RAPatton
How to Customize Your Facebook Page - http://staynalive.com/article...
LarchOye, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah and Jesse Stay liked this
This makes me want to create a new Facebook page...but I still wouldn't know what to do with one.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rahsheen, use it like you do FriendFeed or Twitter - that's what it compares to. It's your public, more anonymous persona.
- Jesse Stay
I have one already, but I picked an unfortunate name that I don't like anymore. Going to delete it and create a new one. Probably under Coach Rah. We'll see how it works out :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Earth Misses Meteor by 13 Miles - http://staynalive.com/article...
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Chris Heath, Eric Logan, jerobins and 36 other people liked this
This video is great: http://www.twitvid.com/7F1F9
- Louis Gray
wow
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
I can't believe I missed it - I was awake during the time, and almost went out to look for meteors right around that time
- Jesse Stay
Aliens missed again!
- Glenn Slaven
I saw one come that close during the Leonids in the late 90s in Missouri. It not only left a big trail of fire across the sky and turned night into day, but it actually left a smoke trail behind it that hung around for about 15 minutes. Damn cool.
- Otto
duck!
- Susan Beebe
Wow, I didn't realize these meteors were that tiny http://leonid.arc.nasa.gov/meteor...
- Victor Ganata
Just went outside and looked ... think we're good on the east coast. Jesse .. think that may have just been Scoble flying quickly to another destination .... ??!!
- Charlie Anzman
The size doesn't always matter as much as people think, the speed does. A car size meteor moving at say 0.25c (yeah yeah, might not be possible) would hurt good.
- Mo Kargas
Title makes it sound like earth was headed towards the meteor and wanted to hi it but missed. Weird.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Let's see, if average car weighs about 1700 kg... it looks like you'd only need about 18 meteors to have enough energy to activate the flux capacitor....
- Victor Ganata
Victor lol we're too dangerous to go back to the future. I don't trust us to get it right. ;)
- Melanie Reed
Jesse, your domain, staynalive, is quite apt here :)
- Micah Wittman
Micah, lol - I hadn't thought of that!
- Jesse Stay
The security camera footage is awesome.
- Vezquex: God of FF
Vitamin D Shows Heart Benefits in Study - Well Blog - NYTimes.com - http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
Maximum Health, Elli and LarchOye liked this
"Got vitamin D? It may protect you from heart disease. Vitamin D, of milk fame, is known for helping with calcium absorption and for building strong bones, which is why it’s routinely added to milk. But there is more and more evidence that vitamin D is a critical player in numerous other aspects of metabolism. A new study suggests many Americans aren’t getting anywhere nearly enough of the vitamin, and it may be affecting their heart health. In the study, researchers looked at tens of thousands of healthy adults 50 and older whose vitamin D levels had been measured during routine checkups. A majority, they found, were deficient in the vitamin. About two-thirds had less vitamin D in their bloodstreams than the authors considered healthy, and many were extremely deficient."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"Less than two years later, the researchers found, those who had extremely low levels of the vitamin were almost twice as likely to have died or suffered a stroke than those with adequate amounts. They also had more coronary artery disease and were twice as likely to have developed heart failure. The findings, which are being presented today at an American Heart Association conference in Orlando, don’t prove that lack of vitamin D causes heart disease; they only suggest a link between the two. "
- RAPatton
"Doctors warn that anyone concerned about vitamin D levels should check with a doctor and have blood tests run. Vitamin D supplements are inexpensive and sold over the counter, but excessive amounts of vitamin D can be toxic."
- RAPatton
Diskeeper Launches Diskeeper 2010 With Revolutionary New Feature - http://www.lockergnome.com/theorac...
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[digg] Coed Dorms Fuel Sex, Pornography, and Drinking - A new study finds university students in coed housing are 2... http://digg.com/health...
LarchOye liked this
Please file this under: "Do not let any girls' parent's read this."
- LarchOye
Robolamps: Robot style lamps made in plumbing pipes | design(dot)fr - http://design.fr/art...
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Can you read this, Luke Skywalker? - http://www.zee.me/blog...
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Alfredo, Gordon Herd, Heejoon and 7 other people liked this
Mandelbulb: The Unravelling of the Real 3D Mandelbrot Fractal - http://www.skytopia.com/project...
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The Best Writing Tips Ever - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009...
bellegarde-webb, Glu glu glu, Livia and 3 other people liked this
"I have been sharing these slogans with the writers I've worked with over the years in different publishing houses, and for many authors, they have acted as catalysts, breaking through anything from solving a structural conundrum to bringing a long case of writer's block to an end. When we started the books page, I contacted Ginsberg's literary estate to see if we could post the slogans, and happily, the answer was "yes.""
- Brad Williamson
from Bookmarklet
100 Million-Core Supercomputers Coming By 2018 - http://hardware.slashdot.org/story...
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New Brain Cells May Knock Out Old Memories http://www.wired.com/wiredsc...
A new rodent study shows that newborn neurons destabilize established connections among existing brain cells in the hippocampus, a part of the brain involved in learning and memory. Clearing old memories from the hippocampus makes way for new learning, researchers from Japan suggest in the November 13 Cell.
- Ami Iida
OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE (UPDATE: It's a Dobson Fly - http://bacn.me/7dw - Credit to Christian for finding (http://friendfeed.com/simplyx))
Joe Silence is not dead, Chris, Taskerrific Guy, Ben Hanten and 76 other people liked this
HIDE HIDE HIDE no
- Yolanda
ALSO HIDING.
- Trish R
That's a cool-looking insect.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
What is it?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Cover it with chocolate.
- Kevin Pedraja
wicked
- Josh Haley
wth is that?
- docrivs
WTF!?
- l0ckergn0me
how did it get in your house
- Alfredo
It didn't! I have no idea what it was, a friend sent me the pic and I was so horrified I had to force everyone else to see it. I would flee and scream like a little girl if I saw this in my house
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
are those....*fangs* at the front? Cool looking as long as it's not anywhere near me.
- WorldofHiglet
beautiful!!!...is it real?
- Ümit Orhan
Does anyone know what it is?
- Steve Council
Ahhhhhhh!
- Kelly W.
"Cover it with chocolate" LOL :)
- Alejandro
Dear Jesus! WTH is it??
- Ayşe E.
GAHHHHHHHHH!
- holly
That's the beast that ate the dingo that ate the baby.
- Steve C
Yes! Fire! Burn the whole HOUSE down to sanitize it!
- Ladybug Heather
What the HELL is that?! And why is someone holding it in their HAND?! *runs*
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Saute in butter with touch of garlic? Do not waste cilantro on this meal.
- Janet
On your hand? Are you crazy??????? Ack!!!!!
- Sharon Tappan
Not my hand, see above comments
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
What the hell is that?!
- Shevonne
My whole body is shuddering. Ugh! Please say your friend lives in some other country.
- Trish Haley
She just sent me the picture, no idea where it came from. I doubt she'd touch it either. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
That is just awesome. I want one.
- Christian (Simply X)
You can keep it outside. In a hermetically sealed chamber. With tinted windows. DO NOT WANT IN THIS HOUSE.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I just found my Xmas present for Anika...She will love this for her bug collection... hehehe
- Bill Heslin
This is a Dobsonfly http://bacn.me/7dw It's a male and cannot actually bite. Females can however. They are native to all 50 states. Even California where like everything else, bugs are illegal.
- Christian (Simply X)
Holllllllly crap.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Mom?
- Glen Mistletoe
and now... UP! :D
- Andrea (Notorious)
Very interesting...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- imabonehead
"They are not poisonous, but possess an irritating, foul-smelling anal spray as a last-ditch defense"... it even FARTS... I love it! :D
- Andrea (Notorious)
Lovely..
- Bill Heslin
lol awe some
- Kamilah Gill
Yikes... what's that?
- BeeLing
Awesome
- Mo Kargas
rolfmao @ Glen
- Janet
Tell me what country that is from and I'll put that on my do-not-visit list ;-) (oh, nuts... it's here in the US???? - help me!)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
O to the MY to the GOD
- BEX
I am *so* gonna try to find one of these somewhere and pose with it. I think I saw one of these on one of the screen doors at my parents' house once. I admit that it made even my bug-loving heart jump a little. I at least knew in advance that such things existed.
- Kamilah Gill
that looks like something right out of the Australian outback...yikes!
- Susan Beebe
Great comments, still laughing.
- Daniel Krech
He's kinda cute. Dapper...for a bug.
- Jess
cool, like stag beetle+longhorn beetle
- Lu Tao
And the looks like be here: http://208.106.191.145/_media...
- Micah Wittman
LOL Micah
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
\OvO/
- Micah Wittman
What should we name him? With that handlebar mustache, I think he looks like a Thurman.
- Dawn
Or maybe he could be the mascot for the Palm Pre.
- Dawn
I think this is the bug that causes Twitter to go down often.
- imabonehead
ACK!!! Stomp! Stomp! Stomp! Stomp!
- AJ Batac
AJ, a whole Riverdance worth of stomping would probably barely scratch that thing...
- Kamilah Gill
And just when I felt safe to leave my house again!
- Carlton Hackett
Not on my 260lbs built Kamilah ;-)
- AJ Batac
That is sooo cool!
- Ken Morley
what the fuck is that?
- tim kerrick
I agree with Ken - that IS so cool
- martha
Actually spurted tea through my nose... thx Sean! LOL!
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
We laugh, but that there bug there gets great quality over the air HD tv.
- Micah Wittman
Boll weevil?
- .LAG liked that
@LAG Boll weevil why dont you get right out of your home? /Presidents
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Christian got it right earlier, it's a Dobsonfly: http://bacn.me/7dw
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Good god!
- Jason Hill
What the hell is that???
- Loren Morris
Updated the title since most people won't want to read the 70 comments to find the answer. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
@Haggis ....LOLz! hell, no, I wasn't going to wade through 70+ comments to find the answer. my "Boll Weevil" ploy worked! i got the answer in just 2 comments! now THAT is real-time search.
- .LAG liked that
Found more detailed info here http://www.answers.com/topic... - Important information like how they only live for 7 days... whew.
- Trish Haley
are kidding me!? if I see that on my front door I'll burn that house, wtf is that ?
- cihanergur
wow that would freak me out lol even looking at that pic gives me the creeps
- eric
Thanks. Now I wont be able to sleep tonight.
- Rustic Thoughts
Stuart, well, it sure looks like long pieces of sprue didn't get trimmed :)
- Micah Wittman
That's a fly? Looks more like an alien you'd see on Star Trek!
- Cam
...and who t.f. is Dobson, anyway? wasn't he the actor who played "Crocker" opposite Telly Savalas' "Kojak"?
- .LAG liked that
They made a movie about these right where they evolve to look like humans
- Joe Dawson
In certain parts of the world. they have saber tooth crotch crickets that are bigger than this.
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
'shopped
- Bwana ☠
Oh, look. He's smiling!
- Mike Lewis
(UP, just to show it to my italian bug "lover" friends which were sleeping last night - remember: this thing FARTS!) :D
- Andrea (Notorious)
from IM
GAH!!! It's not real it's not real it's not real.
- Carmen
Yuck
- YoYo_P
Happy Halloween!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
NOM!
- Joe Silence is not dead
JEEBUS I must've missed this the first time around. I will now actively loathe you for at least 24 housrs.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
oh sweet jesus HIDE!
- holly
anyone know how to stay calm before a driving test. i'm a nervous wreck
Slavomira Vladimirova, LarchOye, Admiral Anika and 3 other people liked this
Good luck!
- rowlikeagirl
listen to some Tunes ... go for a stroll with the Ipod
- johnpiercy
I always reach for a beer :P
- Dennis O'Neil
The easiest, bestest way to breeze through your driving test is to drive downtown every day during rush hour for like 2 weeks, parallel park at least 3 times each day. You're going to feel like you need to rush the parking at first (and you should make it quick so as not to hold up traffic) - but this 'pressure to rush it' is EXACTLY what you need to force yourself to get it right on the first try every time- which will give you the confidence to do just about anything driving a car could ever require...
- LarchOye
Honestly, my dad told me to drive his 5-speed pathfinder up our street when I was 12 years old. I did it perfectly, and still knew how to drive a stick 3 years later when I got my permit and started driving. I HIGHLY recommend that everyone learn to drive using a stick. You are almost automatically a better driver behind the wheel of a manual than an automatic... You're forced to pay...
more...
- LarchOye
Also, I am of the philosophy that you NEED to be able to drive ANY car... You never know when some emergency might require YOU to drive some random unfamiliar car in order to get someone to a hospital, or remedy some situation. And I can guarantee that you will wind up in a situation someday where you're out with friends, and the driver winds up drinking too much to drive everyone...
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- LarchOye
Niranjan to Niranjan's feed, Persian Cam, Funny Funny, Funny Pics and Videos, Fotos, Photo Gallery, Photography United, Big Boob, NSFW Posts - Images, Videos and Messages
Mickey Mouse's grabbing my boobs!! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Kenton, Jon, the Beartato of FF, O_O and 13 other people liked this
I'm sure this will soon be seen on Miley Sirus.
- Mark Dodson
Pandora Opens Its Box A Bit More With Twitter, Facebook, And Gifting Integration - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Benjamin Golub, LarchOye and Bret Taylor liked this
Popularity of a belief is not a good way at all to win an argument. The number of people who believe something has ZERO bearing on how true it is.
Schadenfreude, Turner Burns, Jennifer Dittrich and 40 other people liked this
God.
- Chris Greene
Exactly my point.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
2012
- Internet's Tad
Armed Moon Landing Conflict.
- Christopher Harley
On the other hand, no amount of evidence is sufficient for many people to change their beliefs - especially when they believe in things which can't be proven or disproven.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
The OP is a true statement.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Actually, though popularity is a poor way to arrive at truth, it is still an amazingly effective way to "win" an argument.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
It depends on the context of "win an argument". It many scenarios the number of people who believe you won the argument does determine who won the argument (if that populous is the arbiter of the contest). See what I mean?
- Micah Wittman
...Unless the argument is about how many people believe something.
- Matt Plummer
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I think there is SOME relationship between truth and belief, rather than ZERO. But I agree that _argumentum ad populum_ is a fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...).
- Stephen Mack
I believe this discussion can't be won.
- Jemm
Discussions aren't about winning, though, Jemm. They are about learning. Arguments are about winning.
- Alex Scoble
Unless some portion of the people who believe something do so from their own observation, correct?
- Kevin Pedraja
And it's possible that two people can observe the same thing and interpret it in different, even opposite ways, right?
- Kevin Pedraja
Even observation alone doesn't make something true, though.
- Victor Ganata
I'd argue that observations are more valid than mass opinion though, at least in the context of an argument (unless it was an argument over what more people believed).
- Alex Scoble
Depends on the nature of the observations, and the origin of the opinions. All generalizations are bad, even this one .
- LogEx
@Alex: True, bad choice of words.
- Jemm
I want to propose some kind of meta-belief about belief in the belief that would only be true if it was believed.
- Andrew C
Heh, LogEx, it's not a generalization at all, as Stephen Mack so kindly pointed out, it's an actual logical fallacy.
- Alex Scoble
Right, but some guy on another thread, said, in effect "My observation validates my argument." Who was that, again...?
- Kevin Pedraja
I thought some German dude long ago proved that every system of logic has inconsistencies. I would say that for every argument, observation is necessary, but not sufficient to demonstrate truth.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, are you thinking of Godel's Incompleteness Theorems? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... )
- Andrew C
belief < truth < reality
- Nick Humphries
"Quod est veritas?"
- Laurent
Andrew, yeah. Nick, is it really possible for truth and reality to be two different things? I just think that human perception of reality always fails to encompass the complete truth.
- Victor Ganata
It's just nice to see so many agree that there is such "thing" as truth.
- Gus
Much of the truth is probably inaccessible by human reasoning, but it certainly exists in an abstract sense.
- Victor Ganata
Victor: Not according to the goof-ball wing of social constructionists.
- Christopher A Carr
Saying "much of truth" is assuming that truth is quantifiable or can be portioned. :) Facts and truth are different things.
- Gus
Well, there are statements that are true and can be logically proven to be true, and statements that are true but can't be proven to be so, and I think there are more of the latter than of the former.
- Victor Ganata
Apple
- CW™
@Victor Who can argue with the fact that you think that?
- Gus
Yep, some statements are just unarguable, at least from the standpoint of formal logic.
- Victor Ganata
Like when engineers believe they are UI designers?
- Chris Greene
Yup, Chris, just like that.
- Alex Scoble
As the saying goes, fifty million Frenchmen can be as wrong as one. Same goes for any other nationality. Propaganda and advertising exploit this fallacy using the "bandwagon effect".
- Dennis Jernberg
I always thought that truth was dependent on your point of view
- Davis Freeberg
Truth is never subjective
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Fact is never subjective, Alex. Truth is an opinion.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
According to dictionary.com, Mark, truth and fact are intertwined so much as to be almost synonymous http://dictionary.reference.com/browse...
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Truths and facts are not subjective. What we think they mean and what we do with them is.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"Truth" often changes over time, as do "facts." Even the most objective people are subject to the limitations of current knowledge. Many things we accept as "facts" today were either disputed or unknown in the past. The history of scientific discovery is rife with certainties that later turned out to be false.
- Kevin Pedraja
Truthiness - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Ryan
In a philosophical sense, truth is very very difficult to define. Better men and women than us have tried.
- Matt G
Kevin, I would say that the truth was always the same, just that our understanding of it was limited by our knowledge at the time. In my view, truths are absolute, so if what you thought was true turns out not to be so, it is an error in judgement and not one of the cosmos.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I would argue that a fact is something that is beyond subjective interpretation. (i.e. The earth orbits the sun.) A truth is the accepted wisdom of a people based on the subjective interpretation of the body of knowledge at any given time. That is probably not the "official" philosophical definition...
- Kevin Pedraja
Yes, MVB just said something similar. I do not see fact and truth as frungible by the observations of man.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
The fact that people have different definitions and ideas of truth means that it is not ablsolute really. I am being pedantic though.
- Matt G
Opinions and observations are obviously not absolute. This does not mean that truth isn't absolute. Lack of understanding of a truth does not invalidate the truth.
- Alex Scoble
Truth stands outside of perception, viewpoint and subjectivity.
- Alex Scoble
I agree that is how it should be, but I think that perception is reality! In a metaphysical way. What is is what humans believe and know.
- Matt G
What reality is, is another question that we have wrestled with since time immemorial. Does reality exist outside our perceptions, viewpoint and subjectivity? Do we even have the capacity to understand reality? Given that all of our senses are subject to various filters and indirect links in to the brain can we ever truly trust that what we see, feel, touch, smell and taste is truly real? Are we in the Matrix? I don't have answers to those questions beyond my beliefs.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yes it is about questions and thats a good thing I think. I will go and criticise you on another thread now, cant think anymore.
- Matt G
Yeah, the search for truth often results in more questions and less truth.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Rum and metaphysics & Friday night is a match made in heaven! Thats perception.
- Matt G
Truth is that particular universal which witnesses all states at all times.
- Gus
Kevin, +1! "a fact is something that is beyond subjective interpretation."
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
Maybe one day we'll know the truth. But which one?
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
I would like to use my ask the audience, Alex
- Eric Logan
Then how do we establish that something is a fact, since all our perceptions and measurements are subjective?
- Victor Ganata
Not all our measurements are subjective. We can quite accurately measure the passage of time, for instance. No subjectivity needed for reading a digital clock.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I think Einstein and others may disagree with your passage of time statement.
- Brian Sullivan
No, they wouldn't. They would not say that measurement of time is a subjective factor, what they would say is that how time passes depends greatly on the speed of the observer. But there's nothing subjective about a highly accurate clock on earth and one on a fast moving satellite. The interpretation that you make when you realize that there's significant drift between the two might be subjective, but those measurements are not.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"There is no truth, only interpretations"
- empireofno
Alex, how do you measure ticks of a clock? It all depends on the reference frame of the observer. That's the whole point of relativity, that the passage of time depends only on the reference frame of the observer, and nothing else.
- Victor Ganata
I said digital clock, Victor. :) And our atomic clocks have a very high degree of precision and accuracy. In fact nothing else we measure in this world comes close to the precision and accuracy of our modern scientific clocks.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Another example of something that requires no subjectivity is the periodic table of elements. It's such an amazing piece of knowledge in it's conciseness, accuracy, precision and breadth of knowledge. It truly is a marvel of our modern world.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Flat world.
- CW™
I'm not gainsaying the fact that inanimate objects can have identical precision and accuracy of measurement. My main point of contention is that human perception is inherently subjective. The whole premise of the time dilation experiment involves two clocks with identical mechanisms, with identical precision and accuracy. But the result of the experiment is that what I see on the same clock will be different from what you see.
- Victor Ganata
And while I agree that the table of elements is an awesome example of the power of observation, it doesn't by itself prove that electron orbitals are fact.
- Victor Ganata
In order to make the claim "It's all subjective" or "There is no truth, only interpretations" you must first assume your claim is absolutely true - unless you are lying. In other words, you cannot make a "truth claim" that denies truth without contradicting yourself even before you open your mouth.
- Gus
I didn't make that claim, so I don't have to defend any sort of contradictions.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
This statement is false.
- Kurt Kringle
I'm not claiming "it's all subjective" or "there is no truth, only interpretation." I'm only claiming that our ability to comprehend truth is limited by the fact that human perception is subjective, and much of truth is inaccessible if you're only using formal logic.
- Victor Ganata
Logic is the beginning of wisdom and not the end
- Alex Scoble
from IM
*shrug* Logic is a tool. I'm not sure it necessarily has anything to do with wisdom.
- Victor Ganata
I was quoting Spock man! Spock!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Calculus. I mean, do you KNOW how many people put their faith in it? IT'S ALL A PACK OF LIES
- Glen Mistletoe
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
LOL. That is illogical!
- Victor Ganata
Clearly, I don't comprehend the objective truth of Star Trek :D
- Victor Ganata
You're letting me down, Victor. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I agree most facts and states in the Universe are inaccessible to humans. However, a limit on knowledge does not necessarily mean a limit on sensing truth. A child can sense truth. A child can be right about something while the rest of the world is wrong.
- Gus
Are you a geek?
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Why would you perpetuate a lie.
- Mike Nayyar
Because it's not a l- BEWBS -ie! *'scuse me*
- Josh Haley
Hell yeah I am
- Schadenfreude
I am now!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Dammit MVB..stole what I was gonna say
- Mo Kargas
What MVB said. I think the Bible says the geek will inherit the earth. Or something like that.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Pretty sure that was the "Greek," CAJ...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Technology: Top 5 Geeky Office Gadgets! - http://www.thehenry.net/2009...
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I'm finding bugs in http://mag.ma -- I should get paid for this! :-) Wait until you see what's coming Monday on Magma. Wow.
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I just saw a bug too. I tried to friend you but dialogue box said "Error in unfollowing this user" - Except that I wasn't already following you...strange.
- Mike Bracco
Robert Scoble-san totemo toridesu. Anatawa totemo toridesune!
- LarchOye
Earth - The Pale Blue Dot - full speech of Carl Sagan - http://vodpod.com/watch...
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The Pale Blue Dot is a photograph of planet Earth taken in 1990 by Voyager 1 from a record distance (4 billion miles away), showing it against the vastness of space. In a commencement address delivered May 11, 1996,Carl Sagan related his thoughts on the deeper meaning of the photograph: "Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam....
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- Amira
from Bookmarklet
"Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. The Earth is the only world known so far to...
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- Amira
Carl Sagan made a great contribution to the Voyager program. He is not only of the planet, a wide knowledge in various scientific areas. I was impressed also read many books of his work. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ami Iida
TED Video: Oliver Sacks: What hallucination reveals about our minds - http://www.ted.com/talks... (via http://friendfeed.com/kjmorle...)
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"Neurologist and author Oliver Sacks brings our attention to Charles Bonnett syndrome -- when visually impaired people experience lucid hallucinations. He describes the experiences of his patients in heartwarming detail and walks us through the biology of this under-reported phenomenon." - Credit to Ken Morley on Bookmarklet
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