PREDICTION: The problem FriendFeed will have is when it will be very popular (mainstream if you want), there will be so much content that you won't be able to see eevrything. A page refresh and tons of content is published. We will for sure miss tons of good stuff.
a page shows say, 30 entries, between two refreshes, say there's 2000 new entries by friends and friends of friends... you see what I mean?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
We need some way to lens ACROSS content, to view things based on value / ranking / medium, etc. Already there's more content in even my shallow feed than I can comfortably follow, and few of my friends even use FF.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
I expect we'll see more than you realize. Likes and Comments keep stuff bouncing to the top until you get a chance to see it.
- Hutch Carpenter
I'm liking and commenting just to bounce ya twice. ;)
- Chrimmus Tad
Best guess is that hyper growth is already being foreseen with numerous solutions. These guys are good!
- Charlie Anzman
only if you subscribe to everybody under the sun. I'm sure scoble aleady has that problem here and on twitter
- Brett Kelly
Block and Hide aren't nearly good enough for the things I want to do when updates hit several tens per second. I, really, want things like Boolean filters of near arbitrary complexity, feedback learning, and flexible presentation ranking, just to stay sane.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
I'm telling you guys - Lindsay totally pegged it. FF is the site that just DEMANDS an Intelligent Agent to sift through the volcanic soil to expose the rough diamonds. If the FF devs have half a brain, they have a genius or two slaving away on that right now.
- Chrimmus Tad
I agree, lots of stuff falls through the cracks through out the day. I think the 'best of' was added for this reason. I haven't really used it that much though.
- Tsega Dinka
but all the good stuff is reshared... personally my eyes are trained to scan content quickly and efficiently. it weeds out what i'm interested in and not. if all else fails, there's always the "BLOCK" or "HIDE" options...
- Mona Nomura
Resharing is data-cluttering, as I see it. I want a system that unifies references to URLs, for one. It tells me where that reference is made from (Rooms, friends, likes, whatnot), but only gives me a single thing to look out for any given referent. The actual rest of info is just useful metadata for building lenses out of.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
You ask the wrong question with your prediction my multi-lingual friend -- the question is not whether we will see too much, but whether we will see enough? FriendFeed (with or without NoiseRiver) is an extremely good model for seeing "enough". NoiseRiver will allow the "noise lovers" to see even more :-)
- Robert Seidman
As more people join, simply being good at managing who you follow will be more important and should keep the noise down.
- Martin Bryant
Surely people like Robert Scoble are already at that level, he manages fine!
- Joe Dawson
Especially if one uses small screens and apps like twhirl to view the feed...
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
We'll just need a CloseFriendFinder app to sit on top of FriendFinder
- Craig Thomler
I don't see the problem if there is the right method to represent the contnet, in a away that the fruition of it by the user would be easier...
- Edoardo Piccolotto
from twhirl
Yes. There is the potential for much more clutter here than twitter, for example. FF needs enhanced filtering tools.
- Ian Fogg
It's already happening for me. Need tags. Plus likes and comments only go so far. What if I like stuff only a few others like? How do I find that?
- Larry Huffman
if more of my friends were on FF I wouldn't be subscribed to so many people I don't know
- Samuel Bostock
the average user isn't going to be subscribed to that many people. and the mainstream will be much less "active" in terms of generating content than the hardcore early adopters. In short, I don't buy the argument.
- Jamie
The average user doesn't use the majority of features present on mobile phones. In Portugal owning a expensive phone is a status statement, but most of them could use the cheapest mobile in term of features used. With software and web services it's the same, people use just a subset of the features, and they have to be in front of them. Power users and all it's likes and dislikes are useful to test the limits of a application, but besides that are not the voice of God.
- Mário Pires
This is where the top posts of the day/week/month will come into play. I sure that someone will comment or like a post before it flits away. It does bear consideration though, put some brakes on the speed of posting perhaps?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
from fftogo
Maybe a combo of FriendFeed and Digg? people could set to only receive posts with X number of likes/comments...or based on the rep of the person posting...
- Craig Thomler
If i could create "groups" of people by subjects relevant to me perhaps it would be more manageable.
- Mário Pires
so there will be meta services (think summize). Cool. no problemo.
- john conroy
Just look at the Everyone feed. Only imagine articles with 1,000 likes (ala Digg) and 500 comments (ala slashdot). Some people may want the raw feeds, we'll need new filters/views/trails/signposts/guides/topics etc...
- Mitchell Tsai
I have the feeling that the FF staff will roll with the punches. Scalability!
- Steve Isaacs
@Robert Scoble: you WON'T be able to manage that noise. It's simply a mathematical fact. Say, you see 30 post, and between two refreshes, 20.000 entries are posted. The next page will show the last 30 of these 20.000 new entries. You will miss the entries in between. Liking or commenting from FOAF won't help. Because the flow will run... fast.
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Prescient in Twitter's case. For awhile it was so for FF too. I don't know about now however; things are slower.
- Itachi
Hi, mohomed! That's so old, how did you find it? :)
- directeur
I was looking for a post with an mp3 attached to it from awhile ago that I needed, but couldn't find it. It's some soft of new jazz from Turkey. A bald guy with blue was attached as an image holding some sort of instrument. But I stumbled across a bunch of good other old posts.
- Itachi
I'm curious to see what "Tempo" and "Mile Marker" are. I guess I won't have to try to search for the former, but the latter is also hard to find since it points to mechanic things. Can you supply the URL's?
- Patrick Mackaaij
http://keeptempo.com/ You can try it out for free with just one project and see what you think. It is good if you are billing out your time or just trying to manage what you do as I am.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
there is also @gcal where you can send appointments to your Google Calendar.
- Peter van Teeseling
thanks Peter! I didn't know these two. I don't think there is a directory about such services, so it can be useful to list them here. Strange, but this topic had very few comments in the Twitter group....
- PaperDoll
there is also @taskfm - just covered by mashable.
- PaperDoll
gcal is having issues currently. My guess is that they are hitting some sort of max follow wall.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
The work-a-round that I am using is authorizing my mobile number via the web and then texting to 48368 with description, time, & date. It seems to be like the "quick add" function.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Looks like the rain from today has the Saint on the rise. I think that I might hit the hay early and drive down for a lil ww fun. - http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis...
Darn right it is. The krewe from the MO Whitewater Association all ready has about 5 folks that have posted they will be there by 10am or 11am. So no safety worries about heading down solo.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Cool thing is that the car is still packed. All I need to do is toss the kayak on the roof. Darn it , but I am amped all ready just thinking about it. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
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- Larry Huffman
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- Larry Huffman
I forgot about the portable client. I had it installed on my work computer, but I would hate for my information to be stored there if I leave (or laid off).
- Valley
I almost never use the web interface. On my PC (work) and Mac(home), I use the desktop client, and my iPhone everywhere else.
- Stan Scott
I use the web interface on my phone probably 90% of the time.
- James
I like the web interface because the Window's client doesn't show the notes in a thumbnail view like the Mac version.
- Valley
I use the desktop version the most. But I also have separate Evernote accounts for work and personal stuff. I don't use the desktop client at work for my personal Evernote account (though I could...). I use the web interface or phone if I need to access my personal one at work. I don't use the web interface or phone at all for my work account since I don't need that info outside of work (and have some local only notebooks).
- Fa La La La Lindsay
If I find something I want to clip to both notebooks while at work I use the browser clipper to save it to my work desktop client and use the Evernote bookmarklet to save it to my personal one in the web version (you can be logged in to a different account than the desktop client is using). Works pretty well for me and is a nice separation. When this job is done I'll just hand over the credentials for my work account and none of my personal info will be there.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Desktop client on a computer that has it. It's much faster than the web interface.
- Andre P. Siregar
I use the Mac and iPhone clients about 50-50. I rarely need the web client.
- Bill Sodeman
Initially just the Web. Now using Mac desktop client and when on the go, the one for Windows Mobile. Hmmm...am I the only non iPhone user here?
- Edmund Tay
@Edmund - I have an Android G1 I use Evernote on. I used to have a T-Mobile Dash with Windows Mobile. You're not alone. :)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I'm using the desktop version less and less as I'm using my Linux apps more & more (I run Windows as a VM for when I need the compatibility).
- Phillip Loughney
Desktop app on my laptop and desktop, web interface when on friend's machines.
- Ralph
I use the desktop client significantly more than the web interface.
- Adam
I think that depends. I use the desktop client in my home, it's very complete. And of course, if I use my phone, the web interface.
- María A.
Client whenever possible, which I'd most of the time.
- M C Morgan
from Nambu
iPhone app the most - adds location info automatically, too
- Staffan Sölve
The desktop client at home, the web interface at work and in the field, so, 60/40
- Sgt Ret
Desktop client for me, at my workplace with a proxy, it's just insane to GTD as I have too much to load (unless I give it like 5 minutes loading.) Else the web interface is cool with the embedding and all. I'm using it since version 1.X, good product.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
I use the desktop and web clients but not not a fan of the iPhone app as I clip a lot of science websites and they work better with the clipper and bookmarklet.
- Sally Church
I might use the iPhone client more. I use the desktop client primarily to feed the iPhone.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I'm a Premium user, so whenever I come across a third-party PDF (such as a manual), Excel or Word file, I drag it over to Evernote and delete it from my hard drive. I can even read these files on my iPhone!
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- Larry Huffman
thanks. Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood :)
- John Owen Butler
I tried to reply through Google chat - but it didn’t work. Guess some bugs still need to be worked out. Nice but strange to post over 140 characters.
- Christine Dattilo
Welcome! This is the new cool kids table in the social media cafeteria, apparently.
- Mark Traphagen
But it’s not as social I find. It works well if someone posts an interesting link, because comments are threaded. But for “I just ate a sandwich” stuff - doesn’t work.
- Christine Dattilo
yeah, seems halfway between Twitter and deli.cio.us
- John Owen Butler
More del.cio.us with comments. Also like a blog with the comments more important then the original post. I watch FF to learn - usually don’t engage unless I can advance the conversation - no just chiming in, like I am now:)
- Christine Dattilo
Hey there. I bailed on FF early last fall but will come back now that some good folk from Twitter are showing up ;)
- Larry Huffman
Like Larry, I rarely use FF, because most of my favourite Christian tweeters don't seem to be on here yet. If they were I would probably use it a lot.
- Samuel Bostock
I think I looked into it around that time and decided against it. I like identi.ca, but it is not well utilized by my Twitter friends.
- John Owen Butler
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- Larry Huffman
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- Larry Huffman
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- Larry Huffman
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- Larry Huffman
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While pledging to pray for, respect, and support President-elect Obama, I wish we would grant the same to President Bush.
- Larry Huffman
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I'm a non-coder would like to learn some code in his spare time. I know CSS, HTML, and C (thus he knows the basics of loops, arrays, structures, etc). What should read/download/use to learn code, especially web-based code.
I would recommend the extensive free online tutorials at http://www.asp.net/learn/ to learn C# and ASP.NET - the programming language is robust, and there's a lot of great resources there.
- Nathan Chase
If you know C, you may want to check out Perl (perl.com, by O'Reilly. Great books. perlmonks.org is also good). The newer scripting languages, like Ruby, PHP, etc., may be easier to learn; I don't know. But you can do a ton of stuff with Perl.
- Larry Huffman
PHP is probably easiest to get started with, since it comes default with most cheap hosting accounts. Python and Ruby are a *lot* more fun, but there's more infrastructure required -- it's not too bad, but it definitely adds to the learning curve.
- Peat Bakke
from Alert Thingy
Ben, in your case PHP would be easier compared to Python. PHP syntax is similar to C while Python syntax is very different and has a steep learning curve.
- Rameez Nooruddin
PHP is super easy to learn from a C background, and it's easy to find/set up a server that will run it. Try http://www.php.net/manual... for some tips to get going
- Kevin L
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- Larry Huffman