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My review of the new Zune HD is now up on Suntimes.com! http://www.suntimes.com/technol...
Nice review! I can't wait to see a Zune and try it out.
- Larry Roth
That was a great review. I don't necessarily agree with regarding the pricing...the low end model gives you double the capacity for twenty bucks more than the 8gb iPod Touch. Also, there is an SDK for the HD in the form of the XNA Visual Studio product, which is free.
- George Gray
Really liked your review, though I would also like to hear your opinion on audio quality.
- Philip Griego
I hate FriendFeed when it imports Twitter @replies of people. #friendfeed
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Is there a way around this without resorting to Grease Monkey?
- David Sandey
so do I !
- zeynep
:D
- yedi
it may seem strange, but i like to see these, because sometimes they are part of an interesting conversation
- Mike Chelen
Did you try to solve what is for you a problem?
- lelapin
stop twitter then!
- Nikos Kouremenos
It does not auto-hide these entries. @Nikos why should I stop twitter!? All twitter entries are not replies.
- Alp
quote @alp
- Stego
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- Alp
I like it. I miss that part of Twitter. It was such a great way to find new people.
- Larry Roth
Question: Does Twitter put some marker in it's feed to show what is replies and what is not?
- Johnny Worthington
The reason I ask is because if Twitter doesn't put in any markers, the FriendFeed would have to do some filtering of the content as it comes in.
- Johnny Worthington
I think FriendFeed has to do something about this issue. I think they can recognize @replies followfriday, RT or whatever twits.
- Alp
so do l...l also hate it wn u dont know where those feeds come from really annoying...
- Pam Gwenzi
I must disagree with you Alp. Twitter feed is imported so it would be for you to work on some solution to filter out whatever you don't want. Friendfeed can only bear responsibility for a, in your opinion poor, service it would provide.
- lelapin
I for one am glad FriendFeed hasn't spent time chasing their tail on this one. While there might be some vague social norms about "conversations" on Twitter, there's certainly no fixed protocol of any sort that would let you distinguish between "@alp Yeah, I agree LOL" and "@alp just discovered a cure for cancer".
- Ken Sheppardson
Design agencies and studios on Twitter - http://www.davidairey.com/design-...
"Nice list…thanks for putting it together. I am humbled that you included BrandLogic and also appreciative of the constructive feedback. Honestly, it’s been tough to find the time to contribute more, but your list has inspired me to make the time. Thanks again!"
- Larry Roth
New Yelp iPhone app is also out. There's a cool easter egg (Augmented Reality feature). Here's how to do it:
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Download the new Yelp app (came out yesterday). So you shake your iPhone 3 times. That activates a feature called Monocle. A message should come up if you activated it. A blue box will come up saying "the Monocle has been activated." It will create a button in the top right corner. Now you should be able to look at the bars, restaurants, etc. Only works on iPhone 3GS.
- Robert Scoble
waiting Robert.... :)
- Sampad Swain
You point it at businesses, or down the city block. I'll try it right now.
- Robert Scoble
Yep! Works. Took a few tries to get it to activate. Some of the places it shows me have been closed for ages though, guess I need to update Yelp for the area.
- Otto
That sounds so cool. Would love to see a video demo of it Robert!
- Alex Calic
I wonder why it's an easter egg. That sounds great.
- Daniel Ha
I just did it. Very cool. I hear this feature was added for me. I really love it!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Daniel: probably to get it through the iPhone store approval process faster.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Raises the question of whether they would have rejected it if they'd known about it. Or did Yelp tell the reviewers about it?
- Jan Dawson
Very, very cool! Just tried it out. There's not a lot on Yelp near by work (kind of an industrial area), but I did get it to find the nearest restaurant. So cool! :-)
- Josh Bancroft
awesome!
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
as long as Yelp allows iPhone users to rate on the fly.. previously had to sync first (not smart)
- Sam Levin
can anyone grab me a screenshot of this? i want to write about it
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
I do love beating TechCrunch with news! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yes, Mr. Scoble, you beat RWW, TechCrunch, AND Mashable! Damn.
- Ben Parr
I can't get it to work... :(
- Larry Roth
We need a Yelp for Federal, State and Local government services.
- Chris Stevenson
Too bad nobody will ever see it 'cause you mentioned it here and not on your blog ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I just posted a photo on my friendfeed account.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Installing
- Stephen Pickering
The instructions sound like World of Warcraft.
- Steve Rubel
You android lovers will see that 'Layer' reality browser does the same as Monocle
- Wayne Bentz
Yelp also just launched their Palm Pre app in the Palm app store. No augmented reality that I can find :-(
- Ken Sheppardson
Yelp doesn't seem to have much support for Canadian business according to some reviews
- Alex Knight
Marshall, I just blogged a screenshot. Will be on www.tinyscreenfuls.com as soon as Posterous gets it there.
- Josh Bancroft
Stupid 3GS. You guys think you're so cool. Easter eggs, harumph! *mumble grumble*
- Sarah Lane
Yay it works in Canada too!
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Nice idea but in my case the locations seem to be about 180 degrees off - i.e. showing behind me instead of in front - but may be down to a fuzzy GPS location or something - will have to keep trying
- Jan Dawson
I wonder why it was "secret", ... undocumented API usage or just to create marketing buzz ?
- Kooleido
Kooleido: I hear it was added at last minute.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Damn, nothings happening. I've shaked it :(
- Stephen Pickering
No iPhone 3G love because no compass? Phooey. :P
- Cheryl Jones
Installed It! Works Awesome! Would definitely use it on my next lunch hunt in Downtown
- Kooleido
Got it to work--just took a little more shaking...was worried I was going to put my phone through the ceiling!
- Larry Roth
Kooleido, how'd you get it to work. I've installed and shaken, but nothings happening
- Stephen Pickering
Oh--and very cool
- Larry Roth
Stephen shake in long and hard strokes.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I hate that the iPhone 3G can handle all this new stuff, but Apple insists that you need the 3Gs. Qik on the jailbroken 3G has been awesome!
- Elijah Nicolas
@Elijah Nicolas The 3Gs is for the built in compass that is required for augmented reality to work.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
lol if it was added for you Robert it would show the cutest girls in the area instead
- Sherry Reynolds
Didn't I hear that Apple had an embargo on AR apps til next month?
- Brian O'Connell
Very cool, thanks for the info. It appears you have to be logged into Yelp though the app before the monocle option will appear.
- Patrick Looney
just posted about it http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... good job finding it first Robert!
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
1st sentence typo in your post Marshall ;o)
- Alex Calic
Couldn't get it to work by "shaking it" but I got it to work by moving my iPhone up and down 3 times in a vertical motion. Pretty damn cool.
- Doug Rice
Marshall, how do you get that camera view? I can't seem to get mine to work. I've shaken and shaken
- Stephen Pickering
Well, thats slightly cool.
- Sean Oliver
Stephen, you should probably just keep shaking. In publish, with lots of people around. :) No, I don't know. I don't have a 3Gs so I don't have a compass so I don't have the Yelp AR.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Holy crap. It really works.
- David Sharpe
Unreal... landscape and portrait works.
- Drew Lucas
Yeah this is very cool. Don't know if I want to be the guy standing in the middle of the street downtown using it, but I can see some very practical applications.
- Trevor Childs
Check out our Yelp AR layer inside of Layar Reality Browser ... Android. http://www.GoWeb3D.com
- Dave Elchoness
Scoble, I just published on Mashable: http://mashable.com/2009...
- Ben Parr
Doh! mashable wins with the most link-baity headline again.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Putting up a video on Gear Live.
- Andru Edwards
we have video too :P
- Jennifer Van Grove
@Marshall - We still love you guys, your article's great. :D; @Robert, props. Total props.
- Ben Parr
@Robert thanks it's fun http://bsu.gr/4414782
- briansugar
I made a screenshot here: http://www.flickr.com/photos... It takes a few tries to turn on the option though!
- Daynah
posted about this on Obsessable and my blog. We'll see if Techmeme grabs it and actually puts this FriendFeed thread first, or if they just ignore it until TechCrunch covers it lolz http://www.obsessable.com/news... & http://www.sampletheweb.com/2009...
- C. K. Sample III
ah Marshall got it up first on a notable blog... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- C. K. Sample III
I got it to work and man, is it sweet! So smart.
- Leslie Fishlock
Shake the darn thing 3 times :)- they say that break dancin was learnt , robbing hubcaps of a movin car in NYC.. so lets so what the new thing will be by the time th iphone has all the motion sickness activiated apps !!
- Peter Dawson
just got word of a THIRD app with AR live in iTunes store! http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... I'd say it's official: AR apps have come to the iPhone!
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
I already had 2.0.2, but I'm downloading 3.0 now. I'm not thinking it's going to work in my office, but we'll see.
- RobinDotNet
Ok, that's really cool. It even works sitting here in my office at home.
- RobinDotNet
Downloading now. I am absolutely fascinated by the idea of augmented reality!
- Victoria Harres Akers
This is pretty cool but the shake 3 times thing doesn't work too well
- Jason Wehmhoener
from iPhone
This is fantastic, just activated Monocle. For those having trouble, its best to move/raise and lower the iPhone 3 times vertically instead of just shaking it. I was shaking mine like a madman until I tried the vertical move.
- Bryan
[Video] Yelp iPhone Augmented Reality Application http://blip.tv/file/2524950
- Steve Garfield
very cool - I can't believe stuff actually shows up near my house on the bay - sweet :)
- Susan Beebe
Damn, guess I'll have to upgrade to the 3GS now.
- Damon Cortesi
I am using the app in Indianapolis to find a restauant. As I guessed the augmented reality is cool but not very useful. Other than to help figure out which direction to walk in.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Argh. I wish I had wifi here so I could download it. A trip to Starbucks might be in order.
- ha3rvey (wants confit)
killer in nyc
- mike "glemak" dunn
from iPhone
dang it - iPhone 3G...
- Jodi
iPhone 3G... not in the States... meh
- Johnny Worthington
It's innovative and that's awesome, but I think this type of interface will be a passing gimmick until more advanced image processing is built into the mobile device. My thoughts on what does matter about it here - http://bit.ly/12wtcY My $0.02.
- Alex Hawkinson
shake your iPhone 6 times, that activates GoogleVoice
- HansVanRock
Pretty damn cool. Thanks for the heads up
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
I just got this going on my friend's 3Gs. I don't even know what to say. That is freaking incredible! Makes me want a 3Gs *just* for that feature!
- Michael Lynton
Just tried this. Awesome! Too bad I'm in a po' dunk town with nothing to do. :)
- Bryan Lee
Amazing, how on earth did you find it! It's still 6:00 am, perhaps I'll Yelp for breakfast
- Nalin Perera
Wow, I'll have to say this is phenomenal. Wish I'd had this on my trip to D.C. a couple weeks ago. Yelp just made an incredibly useful app even more useful. I've seen a lot of developers working on this technology lately but it looks like they beat everyone to the punch.
- Mike Elliott
screen capture of it in action http://twitpic.com/fklr4
- mike "glemak" dunn
very cool....it took me a few times to get the blue box, but then it worked. thanks
- Pam Negoro
I just got the yelp AR to work, and I am staying tonight in a hotel, so I went to my window, and held the camera to the window and it was able to show me reviews of the businesses right across the street from me! I am in love with yelp all over again!
- Colide81 (James)
This youtube video should help you learn how to get it Islandwoo, I think its in how you shake it, I tryed several ways but after I watched this video I did it like the guy in the video and it worked. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Colide81 (James)
Yeah, you've got to learn to shake it just right! :-)
- Nalin Perera
Facebook 3.0 for the iPhone is absolutely beautiful ! - http://yarinhochman.posterous.com/faceboo...
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FYI: the Icons can be rearranged. W00t!
- Nir Ben Yona
It is nice looking, but wish it defaulted to the icon view when you load it. You can't tell you have messages if you aren't in that view. One thing I liked about the old app is the badging when you had new messages or notifications.
- Larry Roth
Good remarks, Larry. Next update is on the prep so lets hope it will have some improved features.
- Nir Ben Yona
Yeah, I wish it defaulted to the icon view as well, but it's a great improvement!
- Trish R
I agree--it is a great improvement!
- Larry Roth
FriendFeed Quote of the Day: "Stephen shake in long and hard strokes." - Robert Scoble
I need to point out that it's missing a comma. But funny none the less....
- Larry Roth
That was the exact quote.
- Ralph Whitbeck
TypeSelect - Javascript-based Selectable Typefaces - http://www.typeselect.org/
Ugh--did you see the code it produces? Each letter of the text is in a separate span tag.
- Larry Roth
The Ramones’ Guide to Killer Content - http://www.copyblogger.com/the-ram...
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Great find Larry.
- Larry Roth
So, who is leaving FriendFeed?
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And go where? Back to Twitter or...Facebook?
- Manuel Mas
no idea yet.... see what happens.
- Rob Sellen :o)
I have nowhere else to go. No where else gives me the high level of interaction that FF does.
- Mel Buckpitt
Same FriendFeed as before, I'll still use.
- Ben Parr
Of course if Paul hands me a few hundred shares of stock ... just kidding. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I was going to ask how you felt about the purchase, but now I see
- acedanger
Depends how much it changes.
- Andrew Leyden
Why leave?
- Mike Shulman
+1 Mel - I am gutted and don't know what to do if the main FF site closes
- Matt Hooper
Why would I leave friendfeed? This place works well enough for me.
- Talon Lardner
Manuel: back to my blog and Twitter, probably. I'm playing around with Facebook but it doesn't quite do it for me.
- Robert Scoble
I'm sticking around unless there's some sort of mass exodus which I don't see an immediate reason for.
- Mike Elliott
Not leaving 'til it closes, and I'm certainly not going to facebook or twitter even then.
- Jim in Real Time
I'm sad, but I'm sticking around. I'm hoping others do to. At some point, the fuss will die down.
- Helen Sventitsky
Mike: because I expect it will get shut down eventually if it doesn't get invested in, and if it gets no new features it will fall behind Google Wave and other projects.
- Robert Scoble
This feels like that HBO Documentary about Brooklyn Dodgers going to LA haha.
- Manuel Mas
And, actually, Google Wave seems to be the most obvious thing for me to try out from now on.
- Robert Scoble
I will stick around until they move the features I like from friendfeed onto facebook.
- Bryan Lee
Isn't it a bit early to make decisions? Has there been an announcement that I missed that FF is going away? Even if it isn't where else is better at this point?
- Tad
I'm not going anywhere Helen...When it goes it goes...I'm sitting tight on the ship
- Bill Heslin
there used to be a kind of message board system ages back with FB. disppeared one day never to return, lets hope this will bring something of that back, who knows..
- Terry O'Fee
I can't wait to try out wave. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Waiting and watching. Robert, I know you have a discussion tab on FB but its not the same. ;)
- Melanie Reed
How soon before google wave becomes available to the early adopters/public?
- Bryan Lee
Mashable just published a How To Take Advantage of FriendFeed's Unique Features. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A little late for that, no?
- Stephen Pickering
didn't you just just say "FriendFeed is dead. I will keep using it until Paul unplugs the last server, which could be years" ? or i'm missing something
- Liviu Barbat
I'll stick around to the bitter end.
- Dave Metzener
Robert: Earlier in the day you were excited for both FriendFeed & Facebook. It didn't sound like you were leaving FriendFeed. What changed? Why not stick around to see what happens?
- Jill Elswick
Bryan: I heard they weren't handing out beta access to non-developers until September. Cold be wrong but that's what I heard
- Mike Elliott
I'm in wait and see mode. It would have to be absolutely sucked in by FB for me to leave it completely.
- pea
Robert, if you believe this is a good deal for both FF and FB - why are you leaving?
- George F. Snell III
When should we cue in Titanic's last song by the band as FF sinks below leaving us all behind?
- Manuel Mas
Why leave now? Until it is changed or killed, it still works just the same.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Same assessment as you, I'll stick around but I need to find an option B now. I guess I'll go wherever Louis Gray recommends
- Alberto Saavedra
I plan on sticking around for a little while longer. Not ready to jump ship yet.
- David Finch
Melanie: yeah, real time really has me going. I will wait until I get a better sense from the FriendFeed team about what will be done here. I just am not getting the right signals from the team that there will be any investment in this. If that's the case, I'd rather invest my time somewhere else. Google Wave. Ning. Vanilla on Building43. Twitter, now that I got rid of the spammers. Etc.
- Robert Scoble
I'll watch and see what happens. IF I feel that it would be useless to stay, I'll leave the site.
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
I think the features of FF will be incorporated into FB (guilt free) and FB profiles will be more tied into FF. That's about all we'll see...
- Gus
Scoble: Ning?!?! Really?
- Manuel Mas
Manuel: hey, Pirillo is over there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm staying here until something else catches up.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, I can definitely see the value of your invested time on any service, but for the average user, what is the downside of sticking around here as long as the site still exists?
- Jeff P. Henderson
hmm, ning. unexpected, but understandable
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
@Scobleizer: The big crowd is not even at Friendfeed yet and you are already leaving? Someone will be by in a few minutes with a drink. Please help yourself and stick around for the conversation. You will be greatly missed should you choose to leave so soon.
- David Damore
Social Media is a set of tools--I appreciate the connections I make, but I'm not getting too emotionally worked-up about the tools changing. FF probablywon't function as my Social Media hub much longer.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I like it here, so I'll hang out as long as possible.
- sean percival
Not making any set plans yet, but keeping my eyes and ears open.
- Martha
And when Google buys Twitter, won't that be interesting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce: have you played with Wave yet? I'm wondering how good that is? I gotta get an invite. Off to beg someone cooler than me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I will continue to use it until it closes down in its current form.
- ashish
Google/Twitter vs. Facebook/FriendFeed
- Stephen Pickering
+1 ashish
- Liviu Barbat
I'm a little pissed that we haven't heard much from our other "rock stars". Where the hell are they? This concerns them, yet I can hear a pin drop. I think there secretly plotting. Roflmao
- Jeunelle Foster
I don't want to but if it eventually goes down the way everybody's predicting it will then i'll have to look for alternatives :( .......by the way where do i beg for Wave invites :)
- Bhowmik Shah
I'd bet Microsoft buys Twitter before Google does.
- Gus
I haven't played with wave yet, but from what I've seen it's got potential. FriendFeed's got polish.
- Bruce Lewis
I wasn't planning on going anywhere, but I guess I'll be spending more time on Social Median. Perhaps someone should start putting together a decent buddypress site?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
I might leave only because I quit facebook - I hate the mindset, the shallowness, and am afraid (make that certain) those people will come here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Gus: Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I think I'll be heading back to Twitter until Google Wave is publicly available
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Robert: Since at the end of the day all these platforms are businesses and have to eventually make money does it make sense to keep investing time and effort into building communities on them when they can sell/merge at any time and dismantle the tools that keep the community in place? it seems like the portable community concept of something like Google FriendConnect now makes more...
more...
- Mike Elliott
The other rock stars are drinking. :-)
- Robert Scoble
If Facebook had an easier way of connecting with people but not showing them all the personal stuff I'm willing to show to my close friends (and the stuff my friends post about me), I don't think I'd need anything like FriendFeed or Twitter.
- Edward Coffey
Robert: I've played with Wave and I wouldn't really put it in the same category as FriendFeed at the moment. It's not really about sharing and conversing in mass form IMO. Its really conversation with maybe 20 people or so but its much more difficult to focus conversations about shared content. Let everybody know when you get an invite and your address so we can add you! :)
- Brandon Titus
I'll stick around until the end.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
It kinda proves a theory I have about us all being reduced (if I can use that word) to channels. I don't think social networking will go away, but as the internet and deals increase, so does the noise. Don't worry Scobe, you still show up in our Google reader every morning!!
- professor daddyo
Man, what are we going to do without these discussions like this?
- Stephen Pickering
Mike: No community is permanent. It's worthwhile to participate even if it's temporary.
- Bruce Lewis
@Gus, Well MS has large stake in FB so I'm not sure about that. I'll stick around here till it peters out. The tech news rooms here are top notch.
- Adi
I don't use FF much other than for private rooms, so I'll stay for those. Whatever other activity I have (which is sporadic and generally not personal) will also remain.
- Cheryl
I'll stick around until they pull the plug.
- Morton Fox
Leave friendfeed? what's the alternative I'd really like to know. Is it facebook?
- Tate DA FF MVP
I'll stick with it as long as it's here and people are still active. FF4L!!
- Cassidy
What is the next thing? Where do we go now? Not FB! But where?
- Michael Liss
I heard it's MySpace
- sean percival
I'm staying until the end as well.
- Mitch
I won't be deleting my account, but signing in and commenting? No. No real point to continue putting data into a service that is gonna get unplugged anyway. Guess we just have to return to blogs and twitter.
- BCK
quick! everybody back to MySpace!!!
- acedanger
what? leave and create a better version of Twitter? or start FriendsterFeed?
- Andy Sternberg
The downside for me? I invest time in things that WILL BE not that are. That's always been what keeps my interest and now that I know that FriendFeed probably will not be, even if it takes five years to totally die, I've lost a great deal of interest in it.
- Robert Scoble
Michael: I don't think anyone knows today where to go next, because there's no good substitute out there. We can only hope that the next destination will be obvious before they pull the plug.
- Bruce Lewis
With the price of bandwith/computing halving every year, there will be a new one of these popping up pretty quick
- Stephen Pickering
I'll just go to twitter. I have a facebook account but I hate it. Facebook is the walmart of the web.
- Darrel Davis
Should we move to where?? haha
- harri78son
I'll be here until something actually changes for the worse
- Dennis O'Neil
harri78son you could come back over to my blog and we could setup JS-Kit Echo. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Damn now I need a drink :)
- Jeunelle Foster
That's right, Scoble is the catalyst for these longer threads anyway, so it might as well move to his JS-Kit
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, that's a pity. I'm lucky to deal in things that only get more interesting as they get older.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm torn. What are our options?
- Kelly Mitchell
yeah~ definitly! @Jeunelle foster please come down,
- harri78son
I see now...This whole thing was a ploy to get everyone visiting Robert's blog! I am outraged! :P
- Brandon Titus
Brandon: OK, we can go over to YOUR blog. Got Echo? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Bruce: Very true. I've tried to get into FaceBook but it's hard to get the clean conversation feed along with lifestreaming content. It just seems to be full of distracting noise even with the ability to filter with lists.
- Mike Elliott
I'm here till the end.
- Nolan Alston
Robert, the same could be said about Flickr, they haven't had much inovation since Yahoo bought them, but people still use the service in droves.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Don't worry Kelly, a new one of these will pop quickly, if they kill this
- Stephen Pickering
Kelly: we don't need to leave tonight. Let's trash the house first! :-)
- Robert Scoble
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
Brandon, that's funny. At the Boston FriendFeed meetup, everybody else had learned about FriendFeed through Scobleizer. I was the only one who found him through FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm leaving my account here for now but I'll be removing all my feeds.
- Got80s
I have no idea where to go...
- Johnny
Let's make the longest thread in FF history
- Stephen Pickering
Anyway, for the rest of today at-least I reckon I'll be off FriendFeed - real conversation is being drowned out by the echoes of this deal.
- Edward Coffey
Damn it. Why is Arrington always right!
- Stephen Pickering
Jeff P. Flickr is different Yahoo bought them for their user base. Facebook bought Friendfeed for their features.
- Bryan Lee
Got80: why do that? Who cares if your feeds are going in here?
- Robert Scoble
Edward: that is true. It caught us all off guard and we're still processing it.
- Robert Scoble
Kind of huge things in this time,.hmmm
- harri78son
Facebook bought FF for Paul Bucheit
- Stephen Pickering
I'm staying here until there is a reason to leave. Though I don't hold out hope they'll keep the service alive forever... obviously, I'm always enjoysthin.gs too, but it's not quite the same. I REALLY can't see myself using facebook as much as FF though.
- Ted Roden
I need an adult beverage. then I'll trash the place...
- Kelly Mitchell
I despise FB. Please let them not just trash FF.
- Adam Webb
Considering the free Google Wave protocol implementation and ejabbered work together, it shouldn't be too hard to quickly build a FF type service that's scalable. Combine that with EC2 and S3 and you could probably get a lot of runway before funding is needed. Robert, I think the next service you switch to should be part owned by you, considering I bet a lot of the traffic here was originated from you evangelizing.
- Chip Ramsey
Bryan: it's worse than that. I'm hearing that Facebook bought FriendFeed for its team. Google Superstars. Makes Zuckerberg get out his wallet.
- Robert Scoble
Where will be the next pasture Mr. Scoble?
- Rami Taibah
Stephen: lol. Yes, the 50 million dollar man. But seriously, there's no doubt what they really want is the tallent.
- Brandon Titus
I'm gutted about this, but I knew that Virb account would come in handy eventually... sorta... maybe...
- Linda Mills
Holden, yeah, but it doesn't make sense to invest energy here when its eventually going to die anyway
- Stephen Pickering
I'm new on FF so I wonder, are people leaving FF because you'll have to use FB to participate?
- Christopher Doiron
Stephen: not only for Paul. The guy who started Google Talk is at FriendFeed. So is the guy who started Google Maps.
- Robert Scoble
Among other ex-Google superstars.
- Robert Scoble
Robert your not processing anything from what I see..Your just gonna dump it...thanks...makes us All feel so much better....Salt in a wound?
- Bill Heslin
Christopher, it's that the FriendFeed team's new bosses will turn priorities away from the site we love.
- Bruce Lewis
They'll probably cannibalize FriendFeed... nom nom
- Kelly Mitchell
funny how many people are joining friend feed on the news of this acquisition. i'm seeing lots of my twitter followers starting to join.
- mark silva
Go where, do what?
- frankiecarl
I say its WAAAYYY too early to speculate what will happen to friendfeed next. Let the drama of today die down.
- Bryan Lee
Yeah lets all get drunk and start a fight. This whole thing is hilarious to me. Funny how media can start a panic. I ain't goin no where, I like to coloring.
- Jeunelle Foster
Bill: I said I won't leave until I hear more from the team. Why must you always be a drama queen?
- Robert Scoble
Kelly, I wish they would absorb FriendFeed, but despite the talk I don't think openness and Facebook are compatible.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, Ex-Google Superstars is how I see it too. I don't see big plans for FF the sense was we were the last thing on their minds.
- Melanie Reed
Can't help being an attention whore, its what I'm good at :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Okay so we sit tight and wait and drink. lol
- Kelly Mitchell
but there is no time to wait a special direction on internet, It's too fast!!
- harri78son
Kelly: My analogy for this is like the female praying mantis luring the male for sex, then it bites its head off. You can see the pic in my story http://bryansays.com
- Bryan Lee
I'm in the eyewear business and so I always know how to make a spectacle of myself :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Bruce: I agree. Wouldn't it be feasible for them to simply keep the two properties separate then? FriendFeed would be the open/public portion of Facebook and Facebook could stay closed and keep its current private user base.
- Brandon Titus
Bryan, pretty graphic and right on the money.
- Kelly Mitchell
Why shouldn't he pull out his wallet. FB needs to monetize. The ex Google Rockstars know just how to do that
- Stephen Pickering
I'll stick around and see what happens, but might not bother so much with another 'social' web site again.
- Grant Bierman
:) I am what I am Robert...I'm A DRAMA QUEEN? LOL that's funny....even though I'm a much better queen than you I still wuvs ya...Still processing all this as everyone else is...Sorry...might be shooting from the hip and I shouldn't
- Bill Heslin
Am I the only one excited to see how Facebook integrates FF? I have hundreds of FB friends that I know personally, yet know nobody that I am "friends" with on FF or Twitter. FB has my friends but I'd love FF's functionality.
- Chris Nunz
There's this optimistic talk about keeping FriendFeed around as R&D. I'm skeptical about it.
- Bruce Lewis
I'll leave FriendFeed as soon as there's somewhere to go to; currently, I'm not convinced there is.
- Tristan Seligmann
Also when you are hanging with the Master of the Universe for four hours, its sort of like Bill Clinton going to Korea. Kind of influences you.
- Stephen Pickering
Rami: I don't know. That's why I'm talking with you. I just know I won't continue to invest my time in something that will soon get no more investment. That's not who I am. I will hang out with Louis Gray until he finds something cool. By the way, someone gave me Google Wave already, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
This should be a reality television show. This is where the real drama queens will come out to play.
- Jeunelle Foster
Leo's going to need a new show, TWIF
- Stephen Pickering
This week in Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Anyone here ever feel like we're just being tossed around from website to website by the big players?
- Christopher Doiron
Thanks Kelly :)
- Bryan Lee
Chris, Yep
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce: I disagree with you about Facebook and openness. They are a lot more open than they used to be and are MUCH more professional and friendly than, say, Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I look forward to your review of Wave.
- Bruce Lewis
Openness and Facebook are not one and the same.... polar opposites. Bah humbug.
- Kelly Mitchell
Yup the big dogs are sitting back laughing at this whole thing
- Jeunelle Foster
It doesn't necessarily have to be "R&D" but really a completely separate product. Something like YouTube is to Google. Although that's a terrible analogy...I guess the products are too similar to keep separate.
- Brandon Titus
I'd pay-per-view to see Scoble and Sebastian Bach fight
- Mattb4rd
The Chinese government is much more open than it used to be. It still doesn't meet my standards.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: also, Zuckerberg is seeing the real money is in search. So he HAS to be open to really do great there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Any chance you could share your Wave address?
- Brandon Titus
Did anyone get a chance to see Youtube HTML 5 Demo?
- Stephen Pickering
Brandon: I don't have my own address. Someone gave me theirs so can't share.
- Robert Scoble
Zuckerberg doesn't make money from other companies' search engines, so he's still limiting what data can go out. I see FB getting more open about what data they take in.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: Wave is very geeky. I think the UI has a lot of FriendFeed's problems x10. We'll see how that first impression sticks.
- Robert Scoble
And Wave will only be as good as how many users it has
- Stephen Pickering
I guess what I'm trying to say is even if you don't think your time here is an not an investment ;anymore in anything Robert...We still, or at least I do, consider your input valuable. And if you were to jump ship too soon, I think we would all lose something. So, even if things don't look good...please hang around..That's what I meant to say...
- Bill Heslin
Where will I go? Probably no where. Friendfeed was the first time I really got to feel like I found a home. Other places don't interact and blend multiple social services like Friendfeed does/did. Just as plenty of other people have said, I'm waiting for Google Wave at this point. I'm already a Google whore, might as well wait for the Wave to come through.
- Matthew Horton
Bruce: data that goes out can be embedded on blogs and websites and interact with things. Also, if you get into Google's search engine you can get a LOT of traffic, which then you can monetize on your own service.
- Robert Scoble
Not necessarily nailing the coffin shut yet here. Going to hang around and see what develops....what seems likely at the moment may be a totally different thing tommorow :O)
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
I am leaving at midnight. 2 accounts will be deleted, mine and one I manage for another site.
- April Russo (app103)
Robert: Hope you enjoy Wave! The UI is definitely way off for content sharing (at least in my first impression) and more suited for group communication for the very scenarios they threw out in the demos. Get much beyond that, or have too many people and the system starts to break down. Obviously, the underlying Wave infrastructure could be used to create something similar to and better than Friendfeed.
- Brandon Titus
Yeah, the cool thing about Wave is the problem they solved with the protocol. Not really their UI implementation. I think there are huge opportunities with both Open Social and the Wave protocol.
- Chip Ramsey
OK, I have been out of touch and I guess I missed something. I see nothing wrong with staying with all the feeds I am tied to!
- Dave Sickmeier
April, please don't delete your account. We lose interesting history when people do that.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm sticking around.
- Nation Hahn
There is no Facebook and no FriendFeed, it is now called TwoFacedFriend...
- Kelly Mitchell
Bill: I'll be around but probably a lot less. Actually I was thinking that this was good timing. We have a new baby due in September and my other son is just starting to learn to talk, so want to spend more time hanging around with the family.
- Robert Scoble
I am gonna wait it out. If the community as a whole migrates I will go with them, but I don't want to overreact.
- Neal Jansons
it's time to have another serious look at Plaxo. There are some very clever people there too, I believe?!
- Matt Hooper
Truth is, being addicted to FriendFeed isn't a good lifestyle.
- Robert Scoble
Well said Robert
- Kelly Mitchell
April: why so sudden and why delete accounts? I don't get that.
- Robert Scoble
As you should. Family is much more important than any of this. And now I have to go fix my wig! LOL
- Bill Heslin
depends what they do with the service - I like friendfeed and facebook so I think it will probably work okay for me
- Nick Stone
Brandon: oh, oh. You said it "Wave doesn't scale." Not good.
- Robert Scoble
FF also has good tools for using it in moderation -- best of day, week, which you can get by email. Lists help.
- Bruce Lewis
I have been spending most of my time on Brightkite. It's a smaller community and more fun. A better alternative than twitter or facebook.
- John C Ferron
Robert, and yes when he does that (Money in Search), it will change the playing field in lateral ways across the Internet, especially in ePortfolios and other like applications that don't need to be walled gardens
- Melanie Reed
Your right, Robert, but you would eventually learn to moderate your use, and a service like this is going to be needed
- Stephen Pickering
so much DRAMA
- Kevin Pruett
Kevin, the Drama is warranted
- Stephen Pickering
And Leo and Dick Debartolo are on the wine train, missing all this...I envy them...lol
- Bill Heslin
Will there ever be an app that just leaves facebook out of the equation - we could only dream
- Ryan Gerritsen
i'm leaving, watching from twitter would be a better option for me.
- rama mamuaya
I am not likely to invest time in another community that I don't have a stake in. If I contribute it will be because I have a personal interest and am part of the team that runs the show. That is the only way I will feel comfortable investing my time & energy into it.
- April Russo (app103)
If we could get the other "Rock Stars" who are obviously having a "virtual prayer meeting" somewhere to get together and talk about what changes they wish to see and what they would like to see develop for social media, Twitter, Facebook, Friendfeed and now this Google Wave, we would probably all feel a little better as we might be able to see down the dark cold tunnel but they're out...
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- Jeunelle Foster
i think that I'll keep posting to friendfeed until it fully integrates with facebook
- Carlos Leiva Burotto
Did you guys see Dave Winer's URL shortner, http://rp.ly? Genius.
- Stephen Pickering
Jeunelle: Rizzn and Louis Gray and I did a podcast earlier where we talked through some of our feelings. It was very, um, theraputic.
- Robert Scoble
hahaha I must of missed it, I'll dig it up. A bit quiet still though. Haven't heard peep from Chris Brogan and all them other STARS
- Jeunelle Foster
Louis's blog post was classic.
- Bruce Lewis
Man, I can understand Louis' feelings. Look how much he and Scoble have put into this
- Stephen Pickering
I'll continue to use FF until there's reason not to. I'm patient enough to see what happens to it. What's the hurry?
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I just started on Friendfeed. It can't go away!
- Paul McElligott
Lets start FeedFriend - the Bizaro friendfeed minus Facebook integration
- Ryan Gerritsen
Well, I was rather hoping for some sort of joint deal between Twitter & FF... I'm not sure if I'll stick around in FF or not. I'm definitely not a fan of Facebook
- Tim Bergman
Paul, that's what so frustrating. Just given time, we know it would have caught on
- Stephen Pickering
I'm staying...
- Luis
Thanks for feeding the flames, there, Scoble. *WHAT* on earth is so scary about all this?
- Brad McCrorey
Brad, FF has died. Scoble made this thing. And what does he get out of it? Nuttin
- Stephen Pickering
Was this the Exit Strategy? I don't see how FF makes money right now?
- Keith Rowland
Stephen: I got you all as friends.
- Robert Scoble
:-)
- Stephen Pickering
This really SUCKS because when you don't have great "developers" to put something together like FriendFeed, you're really just gonna have to either take it up the ass or commit suicide. I'll hang myself 1st with all my clothes on :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Jeunelle HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
- Stephen Pickering
I'm wherever good, smart peeps are ('cuz I'm not smart enough). I don't invest much in tools - it's the people I care for. I'm not gonna abandon FF now but I understand that we'll need a way to foster the kind of community that got fostered here. Nothing lasts forever - and that's mostly a good thing in the long run.
- phil baumann
from Android
i'll be here until either the bitter end or something else comes along ... i'm really hoping that the ff-team will turn facebook into more of what it was before the apps came along... i think that's when FB really took a downward turn for me
- Chris Heath
I follow the Cheese!
- Rich Weaver
Venues like this will come and go, the whole social media landscape is in a constant state of flux I don't see why so many are up in arms. The life cycle of all the current venues are short and most of the leaders are nearing the end of their lives as we know it. But fear not, many new shiny toys will be bestowed upon us to play with. Now let's be social again! (ps. I'm sure we've seen NOTHING yet!)
- Paul Monaco
Tweet: the cheese is in Zuckerberg's office! :-)
- Robert Scoble
And for anyone that wants to know why I am deleting my account and not just moving away and leaving it to rot like i would normally do...just read the policies of facebook. Anywhere I have an account with data I don't want to be exploited commercially, in a way that exploits me personally, I'd delete it just as fast if the service were bought by facebook.
- April Russo (app103)
Zuckerberg is Master of the Universe. He spent 4 hours with Paul Friday. That would have an effect on anyone
- Stephen Pickering
I know I am able to post status updates in Facebook to "Everyone" now, but when will we be able to search these open status updates?
- Kevin Whalen
from iPhone
I can't wait till my mom gets one of my "Queenie" updates....that's gonna b fun...lol..
- Bill Heslin
Kevin, when God, ie Mark Zuckerberg, says you can
- Stephen Pickering
I love FF but I think this is a great move. If FB takes the best ideas from FF and they open it up theres is so much potential for a great community.
- Gary Gannon
Definitely see what happens... Not looking forward to Facebook turning this into a free-for-all like Facebook :-)
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
Gary a potential for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- Stephen Pickering
Not going anywhere for the time being. I'm not a big Twitter fan, and unless FB makes some big time changes, it just doesn't do it for me. Will be listening for any other social media that might come round the bend.
- Bonnie Foster
We are getting tired of all those constant platform changes, aren't we?
- Harald Felgner
Harald Yes!
- Stephen Pickering
I say we all leave Facebook instead.
- Larry Roth
Herald and Stephen, Yes! More and different is not always better, just more and different.
- Melanie Reed
I can't leave Facebook. I have too much built up there. And that won't do anything anways. It will just be a small blip to them.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
so what content aggregator in the absence of FF?
- WarLord
My apologies if this has already been asked, but Robert you are very close the FF team. You had no idea this was coming?
- Ben Hanten
I'm not leaving. I like FriendFeed and Facebook.
- Kimber Scott
Ben: not one iota. I did sense that they were struggling to figure out how to compete, but didn't think they would sell. Paul always told me he didn't want to sell.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - I'm confused - on the one hand you've said this is such a great thing for FF as well as FB - but on the other hand you also say you're leaving FF because of of it. Why - if this is such a great thing for FF?
- Matthew Blaisdell
WarLord: there isn't a good aggregator. That's why it's stupid to delete your feeds.
- Robert Scoble
OK, a friend talked me down. He told me I'd be saying sorry for starting this post by the 400th comment. He's usually right. So, instead of saying sorry, I'm going drinking. See ya in the lobby in 10 minutes!
- Robert Scoble
I may be dense about this, but why would you leave until you saw which way it was going?
- Jerry Kidd
Good question, Jerry. I wanna know this, too.
- Brad Williamson
Robert, I think he struggled with it, but 4 Hours with Mark is a big persuasion
- Stephen Pickering
Matthew: I expect that the engineers will get put onto Facebook. So, if the smartest people are working on Facebook and not on FriendFeed, why would I stay here? Why wouldn't I start moving my work and social graph and all that over to Facebook?
- Robert Scoble
LOL...there ya go Robert...I knew you would come around...Drink Drink!!! have a really nice cocktail...
- Bill Heslin
The people I've come to know on FriendFeed are what I'd miss though, so I'd like to take my social graph with me wherever I might end up next. There's a business opportunity right there.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Dunno if I'll leave the ship...
- Wario
When I think about it - I found your post as well as the TechCrunch article via Google Friend Connect. So maybe it is time to join that Wave!?
- Harald Felgner
Jerry: I said I was going to wait until I talk with the team more, but the things I'm hearing tell me they've already been bought to work on Facebook proper. So, unless someone tells me that's wrong, that tells me I should spend more and more of my time over on Facebook and not here. But my friend convinced me I'm being hasty and emotional. :-O
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: Scoble said early on in this thread that he invests his time into emerging networks, not things that "are already here" I think thats why he will be moving on to the next big thing, like google wave or watchever new social network emerges out of this. I suspect that another startup will emerge to try and fill the shoes left behind by friendfeed. This is always the case. When napster left, you had morpheus and kazaa, then bit torrents.
- Bryan Lee
Robert - Makes sense - except that it still doesn't seem like a great day for Friendfeed - if it just gets abandoned (by FB as well as by leaders like you...)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Matthew: FriendFeed=Facebook. It's a great day for both. Cause I'll end up at Facebook either way! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Anyway, these are just the emotional ramblings of someone trying to figure out how the world shifted today. Have fun!
- Robert Scoble
clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here.
- Steve Gillmor
I'm just curious what new startup will roll into the limelight because of this announcement?
- Bryan Lee
Robert, FriendFeed != Facebook - look at the quality of commentary/people here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
FriendFeed can stop improving right now, and I'll still stick around until something else catches up. Maybe that something else will be Facebook. I'll wait and see.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm probably out. Back to open source for me at this point. Time to take another look and see how things have progressed with Laconica, JaikuEngine, NoseRub, and some of the other secondary options. I may also go crawling back to Twitter. Given a choice between Twitter and Facebook... sigh...
- Ken Sheppardson
++Steve Gillmor
- Bruce Lewis
Ken you'll be back.
- Steve Gillmor
I don't think FB will change it all so quickly. But I do like Laconica, too.
- Monique Hodgkinson
Steve you're making it hurt worse! ;-(
- Stephen Pickering
Monique: It's not about rapid change, it's about where to invest effort. I don't really have any interest in investing my time and energy on Facebook... so why wait?
- Ken Sheppardson
stephen how so
- Steve Gillmor
I don't know where to go :(
- K.D.
I'll make up my mind when I figure out what better alternative there is to Friend Feed.
- Anthony Teegarden
Because we know FF has died
- Stephen Pickering
Steve: Yeah, you're probably right. I appreciate the work Bret, Paul, Benjamin, et al have done, and I was really looking forward to where they were taking things... before they were taking it to Facebook.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think I will just stay on twitter, because I can't stand facebook.
- Tomy Thomson
Stephen: FF has died? Well, then, how am I typing to you?
- Robert Scoble
Tomy, why change? You can listen to the Beatles and the Stones!
- Stephen Pickering
Ken: it's all good. they're moving to a radically larger playground, and they can't afford to abandon those who appreciate them
- Steve Gillmor
They will keep FF just will make it better
- Johni Fisher
Choose I meant
- Stephen Pickering
Please stop with FF has died chatter!
- Bryan Lee
I'll wait to learn more before making any decisions
- Herb Hernandez
Robert, well, metaphorically. Whether its a few months or a year
- Stephen Pickering
Tomy: Twitter is like Facebook but without likes and comments. Oh, wait, Facebook is a lot like FriendFeed already. I just commented on Louis Gray's item there. Oh, and there's applications. We can play games! :-) Herb: I'll try to go see the team next week. I'm also interviewing Yelp.
- Robert Scoble
But Steve, what if the larger "playground" turns out to be very different from the one pitched to them? What if the FF team finds that their vision isn't shared after all?
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, ok maybe you are right. Maybe it will be like the R&D. That would be great!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: are you trying to get on the Gillmor Gang? We seem to kill things before they are really dead there too.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert , you make friendfeed slower ! I guess you should leave here really x)
- Melissa Taylor
Anyway, I'm going drinking. For real this time.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
they can go build it again. but zuckerberg has been wanting this for some time
- Steve Gillmor
need to wait what will happen to FF
- Toni @ NavinoT
I'm planning on easing out of Friendfeed in the next couple of days, so I can get the contacts of people I know on here and who's opinions I value.
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Pickering: RSS is dead, not FF
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, oh yes, If I were him, I would pull out all stops to get this team. I totally understand from a business perspective, all perspectives
- Stephen Pickering
business is design
- Steve Gillmor
HAHAHA great comeback Steve. On that note I think I'll have a beer. :)
- Bryan Lee
Steve, OK, I'll keep the faith that maybe Scoble's idea that this could be a Facebook R&D could happen. That would be great!!!!
- Stephen Pickering
Steve, did you see the post about this being an opportunity for Google Reader? I think it was by Jorge Escobar.
- Bruce Lewis
Reading through all this is hilarious. We really should have a social media reality show Robert
- Jeunelle Foster
no bruce, how so
- Steve Gillmor
Jeunelle, Robert went drinking :)
- Stephen Pickering
So he ain't all that. Just kidding hehehehe :)
- Jeunelle Foster
He was saying Reader has most of the features of FF, and this could be their chance to expand and fill the niche FF filled: http://friendfeed.com/social-...
- Bruce Lewis
disagree bruce GR has no explicit contract with users
- Steve Gillmor
Contract or contact?
- Bryan Lee
Wave might be boosted, but has similar immaturity at the social graph level
- Steve Gillmor
I don't understand the part about the contract.
- Bruce Lewis
If Ning is 750m why FF is just 50m ?
- Johni Fisher
users consciously contribute metadata to FF
- Steve Gillmor
Do we want Google to buy Twitter?
- Stephen Pickering
@Steve @Bruce, here's the post http://jungleg.com/2009... -- it's a crazy idea but GR could make an extra effort and put up a better web experience
- Jorge Escobar
I like FriendFeed, a lot, but too few of my friends use the service to make it really useful. So I guess I'll leave.
- Adam Washington
Adam, stay, if even only for the aggregating features
- Stephen Pickering
You are testing us Scoble.
- Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu
YES he's sitting in the back laughing while drinking Peppermint Schnaps
- Jeunelle Foster
Scobles outta here. He went to get a life! hehehehehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
totally staying....this really is just the beginning....and, i just built FF into all of my Intro to Soc sections!!!!
- Chad Gesser
I thought you said you'd hand in there until they turn the last server off. What changed your mind?
- Paul Chaney
Speaking of Google. What was the point of them buying Jaiku and doing nothing with it?
- Bryan Lee
I'll at least stay for aggregation and extending 140 character tweets, and pray maybe it will become Facebooks R&D, but I know that's a longshot
- Stephen Pickering
I should get a life too but alas the temptation is too great for "attention whoring"
- Jeunelle Foster
Jeunelle HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
- Stephen Pickering
hehehe lol
- Jeunelle Foster
Regarding the "team's plans", I really don't expect to hear anything from Bret, Paul, et al. At this point I'm happy to let the Facebook (i.e. the non-FriendFeed) folks try to convince me that they're ready to do things differently. That involves more than just hiring a team.
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, maybe Paul can influence Mark not "to be evil"
- Stephen Pickering
those who think FB has any choice but to go down the FF road are not thinking this through
- Steve Gillmor
@Stephen, I was alternating between friendfeed and twitter (stones and beatles, respectively :P) but I don't see the point in staying with a dying technology, which unfortunately is where friendfeed is headed. The tech of friendfeed itself will hopefully live on in facebook. I really think facebook has become a slightly less obnoxious version of myspace, and that's being nice.
- Tomy Thomson
Steve, Oh, I totally understand. It was genius of them. Proves how Mark is indeed Master of the Universe
- Stephen Pickering
Steve, self-interest does not guarantee anything. People and companies can act irrationally.
- Bruce Lewis
So Steve, do you see two separate properties indefinitely? Or does Facebook just slowly start too look more FF-like, then one day they redirect friendfeed.com to facebook.com?
- Ken Sheppardson
yes bruce take twitter for example
- Steve Gillmor
But Paul could end up being a great influence on Mark
- Stephen Pickering
not indefinitely Ken, but long enough to transfer enough value to avoid making twitter look like the good guys
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, will Google buy Twitter?
- Stephen Pickering
you're "VERY excited" about the deal, but plan to leave friendfeed? why, exactly? i don't get it...
- Shawn C. Reed
dunno, don't really care
- Steve Gillmor
*eye roll* thread is getting to the point where it's too long and people are now asking questions that have been answered thrice.....Lock down time.
- Matthew DeVries
ff was the important value, not twitter
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, why didn't Ff take over FB? Yeah Facebook has the money, but it's the inferior product.
- Matthew DeVries
Oh sure, who do you want in your office, Ev or Paul Bucheit? Paulllllll!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen, didn't the TechCrunch article say that the FF team would be split between two bosses, neither of which was Mark?
- Bruce Lewis
matthew who says they didn't
- Steve Gillmor
That's right. Paul may end up running that thing, or at least be No.2
- Stephen Pickering
@ Robert: The majority of apps on FB are useless imo. Every time I log on I get bombarded by 'add your relative' and 'blackjack' app requests. And don't get my started on the quizzes and other BS. Ah well, I will join your fan page on facebook!
- Tomy Thomson
ff has been running dev for a year
- Steve Gillmor
Wow - isn't this jumping to conclusions? No one has said anything's going away, nor do we know what they're doing to do with it. Stick around, wait to see what happens, then jump. Nothing's happened yet - I think it will all be for the better in the end and you'll know where to go when the FF Team says Jump.
- Jesse Stay
Kurt, he's gonna sit on it for a while, see what shakes out
- Stephen Pickering
jesse skip to the bottom for the apology
- Steve Gillmor
The FF Team hasn't let us down yet, have they? I still trust them - only when they break that trust do we jump.
- Jesse Stay
@Scobleizer I've been on Google Wave for about a week working on an interesting idea I have for it. It's very promising but its very alpha right now. You won't find it worth your time just yet.
- Noah White
jumping is bullshit, no place to go
- Steve Gillmor
Ah - sorry Robert - didn't see the clarification towards the bottom. Thanks Steve.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, you still in the Boston area?
- Bruce Lewis
Why rush to judgment? Even if the "team's plans" are off-base, what's the base? And what's off? Experience, resourcefulness, respect for users and smarts under fire all matter more than "plans." Wait & keep seeing.
- Doc
What the hell? Just because someone buys FriendFeed everyone has to ditch it? ABORT SHIP, ABORT SHIP! Doesn't really make sense so soon. Has anything changed yet? Is it the end of the world? Don't just leave because everyone says they will either. Stick around, the ship is still afloat.
- Nick Humphries
the doctor is in the house
- Steve Gillmor
But, if they did pull the plug, with bandwidth and computing halving every year, there would be another one of these pop up in no time
- Stephen Pickering
I don't see a point in leaving Friendfeed until the doors close on us... if and when that happens.
- Alex Knight
Actually facebook is the most popular rss reader of all time :)
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Bruce, we just left today. I'm actually in Niagara Falls, NY right now. Just finished watching a beautiful view of the Falls at night.
- Jesse Stay
There's a house?
- Doc
Steve, is that Doc Searls?
- Stephen Pickering
of cards
- Steve Gillmor
hover over the name stephen
- Steve Gillmor
Jesse, if anybody can persuade me (us?) that Facebook is going to be good for the FF team it's you. Maybe write a blog post or something.
- Bruce Lewis
Don't get so close.
- Doc
unfollow please sidney
- Steve Gillmor
Doc, Calacanis recommended your book to his audience on THis Week in Startups. Can't wait to read it!
- Stephen Pickering
I just left facebook a couple weeks ago - hope friendfeed doesn't devolve into quizzes and walled gardens
- Doug Holton
It's the Gillmor Gang in a perpendicular universe.
- Doc
yes it is
- Steve Gillmor
and about fucking time
- Steve Gillmor
Stephen, make sure it's the *new* 10th anniversary edition of Cluetrain. Both it and the old one are being sold. 8 extra chapters in the new.
- Doc
No doubt, Steve
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
I'm in it to win it. FF isn't shutting down tomorrow or next week. But it's funny to me that so many dicuss the content... It's the connections made with others that are in jeopardy, not the LOLCat photos...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Because of Quantum Wave effects there are an infinite number of Universes, some of which The Gillmor Gang is still broadcasting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce, I'll be working on a post really soon. Also, Louis Gray and I are going to record a phone call about it tomorrow, which I think should prove useful. I've got a lot of knowledge about Facebook, and he does about FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
we never stopped stephen
- Steve Gillmor
Heheheheheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
JFC, I was gonna go to bed, and here we are. Wherever this is. Do we all really live in Scoble's butt?
- Doc
Doc comes through with yet another metonym: the perpendicular universe (= FF).
- Nick in Manila
I would have had something out sooner but I've been driving a car all day. :-)
- Jesse Stay
no it's Marshall McLuhan's butt
- Steve Gillmor
Is this SRC?
- Doc
Kurt, oh yeah, I totally get that and so does Scoble, but you've got to understand his short term hurt. Look at how much energy he put into this thing, and what did he get? Nuttin
- Stephen Pickering
You mean McLuhan is in Scoble's body? He's in the movie Being Robert Scoble?
- Doc
Nonsense Stephen he gets paid in attention every single time
- Steve Gillmor
Social relay chat?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
No who's on first
- Steve Gillmor
Scoble Relay Chat.
- Doc
the medium is the message
- Steve Gillmor
OK, OK, Steve. I admit, I listened to Dave Winer's chat this evening about it
- Stephen Pickering
yeah I read the liner notes instead
- Steve Gillmor
Confessions of Stephen and Steve
- Jeunelle Foster
And the medium is the network?
- Stephen Pickering
Are we paying Scoble now? Are we his excreta and are those a form of currency?
- Doc
as richard manuel used to say the check's in yr mouth
- Steve Gillmor
Doc, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
I thought it was "the check is coming in your mouth." Just looking for accuracy here.
- Doc
no, doc it's a contraction of 2 of the 3 promises
- Steve Gillmor
I forget what the 3rd is
- Steve Gillmor
I'll love you in the morning?
- Doc
could be
- Steve Gillmor
Well, it's almost morning here. I'll tape this show and watch later. G'night or g'morning, all.
- Doc
Goodnight, Doc!
- Stephen Pickering
I was wondering how long this would take to happen. Soon as I saw FF being purchased by Facebook I knew you would bolt. Not 100% surprising.
- Christopher Mercer
Part of beauty of FF: all their shows are taped. And yet open ended.
- Nick in Manila
It depends how much FF changes. No reason to leave until and unless it gets annoying.
- Igor Goldkind
It's "I'll respect you in the morning."
- Sean Gallagher
Oh, I'm not leaving. Hell, I even still have a myspace account. It's just a question of engagement
- Stephen Pickering
Good night all. Tip for Jeunelle: You get more attention if you make your feed public. Make a group for your private stuff.
- Bruce Lewis
they'll have to scrub this one pretty good before they shut it down
- Steve Gillmor
Maybe Jeunelle doesn't want attention.
- Sean Gallagher
Hell, they keep Orkut going. Storage and bandwidth keep getting cheaper. Might as well keep this going
- Stephen Pickering
Orkut! The favorite social network of 9 out of 10 Brazilians.
- Sean Gallagher
And 9 out 10 of the best looking women!
- Stephen Pickering
True.
- Sean Gallagher
@scobleizer that means half of the total activity on friendfeed will be reduced
- Sidharth Dassani
Maybe if Facebook hadn't stolen all Scoble's data, he'd stop worrying and learn to love them.
- Sean Gallagher
Actually even os Brasileiros are coming over to FB
- Stephen Pickering
My mother is on Facebook. The end is nigh.
- Sean Gallagher
"Maybe Jeunelle doesn't want attention" - says who? I only stepped away to pour me a nice glass of Sauvengion Blanc", and thank you Bruce for the advice I'll look into that tomorrow. After all tomorrow is another day. Twiddly Dee
- Jeunelle Foster
there is no reason to leave. I seriously doubt facebook will kill it.
- Logan Lindquist
What's the record number of comments?
- Stephen Pickering
Logan, I hope your right
- Stephen Pickering
Maybe if I blog my twitter of Scoble's FriendFeed and then link it from Facebook via a Digg of a del.icio.us bookmark, it will create a singularity and this thread will have never happened.
- Sean Gallagher
What about Identi.ca?
- Jerry Heiselman
Sean, you may even create a time machine!
- Stephen Pickering
Can someone comment on what April Russo said about Facebook content policy? Seems like a very important piece of the puzzle.
- metalerik
I wouldn't worry about it. The markets will take care of it. If Facebook becomes evil, the masses will fork somewhere else. We're in the age of Openness
- Stephen Pickering
I will only leave friend feed if it becomes a facebook clone. I can't stand facebook but I still use it cause my friends and family use it, but if friendfeed becomes annoying like face book then I see no point in staying here.
- Colide81 (James)
from iPhone
James, Touche
- Stephen Pickering
You know Sean maybe smarter than he looks....hmmmmm :) and what's with that bird head?
- Jeunelle Foster
Quote of the Day: "Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)" - Robert Scoble
- Diego Barros
It's a starling fledgeling. The perfect symbol for social networking-- it eats whatever you give it, then poops on you.
- Sean Gallagher
That's what I want to reincarnate as....an angry poopin bird
- Jeunelle Foster
Just reading all the news about FF and FB. Disapoints me personally, biz wise nice job. Um not a huge FB user so I don't know what my plans are yet. Like you wait a bit and see....
- Bryan Thatcher
from iPhone
I hope FF doesn't go away and fold in to FB. I don't need FB. It's like bringing a machine gun to a knife fight.
- Diego Barros
I won't leave FF until they make me or there's no community left. Whichever comes first.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We'll never get to talk to Robert Scoble again. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Well, it's made me think twice about vesting too much into any one service (so has the demise of tr.im). I use Facebook, Twitter, Livejournal, and FF all pretty equally, so I guess I'm not feeling this as much as some.
- Bill Kinney
on to Google Wave.
- Jason Wilson
from BuddyFeed
Jannifer, Yes we will on his JS-Kit Echo commenting system he will put on his blog. It's real time like this
- Stephen Pickering
I'm leaving. Google Wave, Twitter, Reader will plenty suffice now. Farewell, former friend.
- Californian
Oh Stephen - I'm not sure what that is... but it won't be like Friendfeed. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
At some point I imagine I will. I have no interest in joining facebook. When I do depends on what facebook does with ff.
- Quasar
I'm sticking around till FB screws it up. But I was keeping FF separate from FB because most of my FB friends are my born-again Christian relatives who won't like the controversial stuff of mine that makes it onto FF's news feed. Still, I'm going to look for other similar sites. Posterous is one.
- Dennis Jernberg
I really want a Google Wave invite now..
- Peter
I'm not leaving but I'm not moving to Facebook. The main thing for me is to keep the contacts I've gained from FriendFeed and hope we all can meet on another similar service somewhere somehow.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ditto what Kol just said.
- LogEx
ditto on the Google wave invite
- Kim
you hit the nail on the head there Kol
- Kim
Maybe. But i really want Google Wave invite.
- ★ Soner Gönül
It's hard to say at this point. The only thing that's changed is who pays the server bill. Ask me in a week. And yes, a Google Wave invite would sure go a long way to make this better for me.
- Dale
Joined Posterous. http://jbug.posterous.com Wouldn't mind a Google Wave invite, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Me too, Dennis. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't leave if Facebook doesn't make something dramamatic to FF
- Kristian Salonen
I will wait and see.
- Matt G
Oh yeah, and I added my Posterous blog to my FriendFeed feed, so you'll be seeing whatever I post there in your home feed here. That is, if you subscribe to me here, or if one of your subscribers likes or comments. Me, leave? Not yet! ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
I'll be sticking around just a little while longer.
- April Russo (app103)
I'm here for the duration
- Charlie Anzman
I'm loyal until they make it worth me leaving.
- Jesse Stay
I'm here until they slam the gates shut. But I am hiding all your BS posts about it being a good thing :)
- jcunwired
If you want to be sure that I quit Friendfeed you have to see my burial. I will never quit while being alive! :-)
- Kolja
I'm staying but it's like when you know that the company you work for has been bought by someone else and might close it, you lose motivation and start looking for another job, it's hard to invest time and energy if there might be no future. Not that the future of FF was guaranteed before but now it does not look good at all.
- M F
I'm heading to Plurk! who's with me? *tumbleweed*
- Iain Baker
Like I said before, I'm staying here until the end.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Friendfeed is two totally different things: the original RSS aggregation service, and a social network service/community. Lifestream.fm is a reasonable replacement for the former. As to the latter, it's the people, not the tech they're using, that makes FF special. I've benefited greatly as a 'consumer' here, reading posts - if that continues on Facebook, it will probably get me to...
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- SteamCentral
i'll be around until it becomes unbearable, probly until it's been damaged badly by FB style feature creep and riddled with ads and spammers. oh, and absolutely stupid censorship policies. that'll be a real killer.
- Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!
not leaving. NEVER hoho I haven't left FB nor friendser.
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
The CloneFeed group has given me some interest. It gives some hope in case FF really goes away or merges badly with FB. I like FB but just don't want to fully mix the two activities/audiences.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'd rather keep my Friendfeed as my "professional aggregation" and Facebook as personal stuff. I blog, tweet, etc. stuff that a lot of my friends could care less about. And I post stuff to Facebook that isn't interesting or relevant to clients / followers.
- Gregg Le Blanc
Google Wave is what I am looking for. The problem with moving to Facebook is that I use it for close friends and family so things like comments and pics etc that I post to it I would not want to have available to all of the contacts I have on FF at the moment. Mainly because I like to separate those I know from those that I converse with if that makes sense. I loved that on FF I could...
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- Travis Koger
Whilst I am not 'leaving' FF, I will not be investing anywhere near the type of interaction I have done previous to yesterday's announcement as I just see it as wasted time.
- Travis Koger
I have to wait & see what, I don't want to lose the community; where do I go? This feels like Pownce all over!
- clarke thomas
not me.
- Edward Barnieh
Nope, not yet. I still dream about FF and FB to coexist. I think Facebook is even more boring now, after this announcement. Anyone else feels this way?
- Patrik Johansson
Not me. I will be glad when all the people who say they are leaving do so my feed won't be full of people saying they are leaving.
- Alan Simpson
What becomes of the broken hearted?
- Joe Dawson
I'm staying on!
- Charles Lau
FF is my first big social networking investment (or time) - I'll stay and then move, if forced. I'll certainly investigate other tools in an effort to fill any gap left by FaceFeed.
- Jason Miller
I just saw that a woman's twittering her childbirth made the front page of BBC's world news webpage. I don't know to make of it, but I don't want to hang out at Twitter much anymore.
- Mitch
Mitch: we Twittered our childbirth in 2007 and we will again in September, but probably not on our main account.
- Robert Scoble
won´t leave!!! i LOVE friendfeed. @Mitch i know what you mean. So many stories and this is the one they picked?
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
i think i'm stayin, and wait what's goin on facebook. i will feel upset if they dont allow the users to make their choice of using one or other site, but looks like they gonna force to use FB instead of FF :(
- Dani Martínez
Not sure how on board with FriendFeed I ever was to begin with to be honest...
- Gurpreet
FriendFeed will be fine - FaceBook is fine - and so is Twitter - I might check out AmpliFeeder, I suspect quite a few FriendFeeders will migrate there as the days go by.
- Chris Loft
Not leaving FF but I can't wait till it's properly integrated with Facebook. Interesting thing: Wave's API is open so there's nothing to stop Facebook creating an app to make Facebook & Wave work great together. Not so much either/or as and... and..!
- Matt Moran
Has anyone tried amplifeeder? edit: so far don't see any friending abilities though
- metalerik
Why leave? But will be open to see other options - facebook doesn't (currently) provide to me what I get here.
- amygeek
Facebook bought friendfeed http://adage.com/digital...
- Rob Johnson
OH NO, I just finish moving all my stuff HERE!
- Terence
Robert: I closed down my embeds today. Sad for my blog.
- Mark Essel
I stay on FriendFeed, on Twitter, on Facebook, etc.
- Emmanuel Gadenne
I won't delete my account, but as FF morphs into the ball of confusion that is Facebook, I won't be very active.
- Jeremy Brooks
I will. No point sticking around when you know it is going to die sooner or later. With twitter you still have the hope....
- Davide D'Incau
I'll leave Facebook if FF gets harmed. And go back to Identi.ca... ;-)
- Torrid Luna
Yeah, I'll probably leave Facebook too. If they're going to "steal" the FriendFeed functions and just let FF die, I will not have any sympathies left for Facebook. I'll go "all Google" or something.
- Patrik Johansson
I'll stay on FF, FB and T, and BK, and other, BrightKite is not well utilised, is good even on beta.
- Andy Ghozali
I joined posterous for blogging/lifestreaming and will continue to use twitter. I might go on facebook once in a while, which is what I was doing anyway.
- Tomy Thomson
Robert: If you're looking for an awesome real-time discussion platform, you should migrate to Fluther. http://www.fluther.com
- Ben
I'm staying put and watching the ship sink. I'd really like to believe that FriendFeed will have some longevity, but I won't hedge my bets.
- Tyson Key
Steve Gillmor said "clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here." so for now, FF looks like the space.
- Barbara K. Iverson
I intend to stick around to see what Facebook have planned. I think the takeover has everything to do with the direction FB's been heading in lately, what with their open challenge to Twitter
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't see it as leaving, but rather seeing the possibility that it might leave us. FF was and still is just about my favorite site and uberaggregatorthing that I ever saw....
- Rob Schieber
+100 Rob Schieber
- Tyson Key
I will stay. Facebook will not Win.
- TheHenry
Nope... I'll stay, even if I ride it to a bitter end.
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
depends. if they stay seperate services, i wont like the acquisition,but i'll stay. if they become 1 service, i'm out. and where is every1 going from friend feed anyhow. what else is there?
- echostreamer
Will wait and see what happens with FB
- Ted Kinzer
fb ruins everything. Have the Privacy policy "not "changed since fb came into the pic? Can they not build their own ideas instead of buying everyone else's? leave us geeks to play in our playground and stay in yours. greedy buggers. The second they pull a skanky fb move i'm out. bitches.
- seastarerrin
I'm here till the ship goes down.
- Lee Watters
Leaving no. Checking out other venues yes.
- Martha
Just maybe Facebook will listen to the Friendfeed engineers in charge of user interface/usability starting with the type size and fonts. Not all marriages are made in heaven. Culture clashes are sure to pop up.
- Alan Morris
I am leaving Web - Back to Telnet
- Dominique Rabeuf
Dominique, too late. The web already assimilated it with the telnet: url schema.
- Bruce Lewis
OK so only snmp/ssh
- Dominique Rabeuf
Hell no, not leaving. Best service on the web.
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
gonna ride this one out to shore.
- Sean Oliver
hu?
- Dries Grobler
back to blogs :-)
- Mostafa Lameei
I was about to focus a little more on FF but since I heard about the purchase and read rumors about FF being integrated in FB and being shutdown and all this, I'm getting a little ... well.. undecided.. Just checked Streamy, didn't like it. If a.tinythread.com get's more development, this might be the next thing to migrate to. I'm sure not moving to FaceBook. I have my account, I have...
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- Dan van Moll
Minitel 3815 (?)
- Dominique Rabeuf
Not interested in being part of Facebook. Goodbye, FriendFeed. :-(
- TranceMist
I wish more folks would see the big picture. We need to focus on independent projects that are NOT part of the Google-Yahoo-Microsoft borg. As soon as a site gets absorbed it is time to find another independent site. Yes, I do realize that some may have actually been part all along and only pretending they were independent in the first place - especially if they were founded by...
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- Internet Strategist
Let's Have Some Fun With This: Facebook Buying FriendFeed Is Like ____ Buying _____.
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GM Buying BMW
- Louis Gray
Paris Hilton buying Thomas Pynchon.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wal*Mart Buying Macy's?
- Louis Gray
God Buying Buddha?
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Louis Gray buying the Giants.
- Mark Krynsky
McDonald's Buying Ruth's Chris?
- Louis Gray
Mark - exactly the route I want to go.
- Louis Gray
Louis Gray buying sleeping tablets
- WorldofHiglet
like Lyndon LaRouche buying Barack Obama.
- Spidra Webster
The Yankees Buying the Green Bay Packers
- Louis Gray
Dell Buying Apple
- Louis Gray
Ford buying Ferrari
- Ken Sheppardson
tr.im buying bit.ly
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Boeing buying Airbus
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
QVC Buying Ebay
- Louis Gray
China buying the Internet
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
China Buying the USA
- Bastard Operator From FF
like Microsoft buying Adobe
- Marco
Canada Buying Puerto Rico
- Louis Gray
MySpace buying Twitter
- Ken Sheppardson
like Juicy Couture buying Christian Dior.
- Spidra Webster
Some big company buying some little company
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Facebook Buying FriendFeed Is Like POP Buying CORN
- chaz2b
+1 Spidra! LOL!
- Michael Forian
McDonald's buying In-N-Out - http://ff.im/6q8Qp
- chrisofspades
CBS buying CNET. Oh... no... wait
- Ken Sheppardson
Some big GOOFY company buying some little KICK ASS company
- Marco
Techcrunch buying Engadget. /me hides behind his desk.
- Matthew Horton
The Catholics Buying the Mormons. :)
- Louis Gray
"Dell Buying Apple" - Louis Gray -- I think makes a great deal of since in this context.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
AOL Buying Microsoft
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Swatch Buying Movado
- Louis Gray
A teenager buying condoms. Awkward.
- Andrew Smith
Microsoft buying Yahoo. Wait... shoot. That's not right.
- Ken Sheppardson
Time Warner Buying AOL
- Cathleen Rittereiser
Microsoft buying Canonical
- vrjbln
Entrepreneurs buying futures
- Josh Haley
Internet Explorer buying Opera
- Marco
Yahoo buying Broadcast.com
- Cathleen Rittereiser
GoDaddy buying InterNIC
- Ken Sheppardson
Everybody Loves Raymond buying Arrested Development.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Ford buying Volvo. Oh...wait.
- wyclif
Wall Street Journal Buying Seeking Alpha?
- Louis Gray
Fox buying Revision3
- Matthew Horton
Looney Tunes Buying The Simpsons?
- Louis Gray
Techcrunch buying Mashable. Or is it the other way around?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Rupert Murdoch buying The Huffington Post
- Ken Sheppardson
Drudge Report Buying the Daily Kos?
- Louis Gray
Yahoo buying Google....in 1999
- Onur Cengiz
National Enquirer Buying the New York Times
- Louis Gray
Michael Jackson buying the Beatles.
- tehKenny, Dork
Batman buying the x-men!
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Comcast buying TiVo
- Ken Sheppardson
Beige Buying The Color Spectrum (think about it)
- Louis Gray
G4 Buying TechTV
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Ouch +1 Jonathan
- Matthew Horton
CNN buying TWiT
- Ken Sheppardson
Experts Exchange buying Stack Overflow
- Brian Sloane
Google buying YouTube. ( YouTube and FF are my favorites)
- Renchin(Reina)
Microsoft Buying Quicken
- Louis Gray
Hey now, LG, Looney Tunes is frakking awesome. How about Disney buying Pixar? Oh, wait..... (and actually, that one hasn't worked out badly, so is there yet hope?)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
++ Jandy -> How about Dreamworks buying Studio Ghibli?
- LogEx
elephant buying wings
- K.D.
+1 Jandy - Guess that means there can be light at the end of the tunnel
- Matthew Horton
Microsoft Outlook Buying Google Reader
- Louis Gray
Google buyingTwitter
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
from iPhone
Polyester Buying Silk
- Louis Gray
Larry Flynt buying Vogue
- Ken Sheppardson
Fox News buying The Onion
- Brian Sloane
+ ken
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Warner Music buying Labrador or Barsuk
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Budweiser buying Guiness
- Matthew Horton
Microsoft buying (then eating) Linus Torvald's offspring
- Slappy Line
LE, that one works. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Sam's Club buying Neiman Marcus
- LogEx
LOL @ Brian- Fox News buying The Onion
- zephyrlily
Utah Buying Las Vegas
- Louis Gray
Jimi Hendrix buying the farm.
- Adrian
Geocities buying WordPress
- AJ Kohn
USA buying Australia :)
- Matt G
Ticketmaster buying The Fillmore
- Ken Sheppardson
Polaroid buying Flickr
- AJ Kohn
lol Holden I think that sums it up
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Like Scoble buying decaf
- Eric Rice
Oops I think Eric just killed the thread
- Gilbert Harding
The Atlantic Ocean Buying the Carribean Sea
- Louis Gray
Casio buying Steinway
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
like trees buying flowers
- Marco
Baskin Robbins Buying Coldstone Creamery
- Louis Gray
The Pirates of The Caribbean (film) buying The Secret of Monkey Island
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Britney Spears buying Billie Holiday
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Bill Gates buying Steve Jobs dinner?
- Gilbert Harding
Payless buying Zappos.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
TWiT Buying FFundercats
- Louis Gray
Walmart buying Barney's
- AJ Kohn
@Jandy, or how about Amazon buying Zappos?
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Like Bud buying Cuervo
- jacky
LOL: TWiT Buying FFundercats
- Marco
Amazon's cool, though. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
USPS buying FedEx
- Ken Sheppardson
Bee's buying Honey
- Mac Sharp
@Jandy, they insulted my grandma. :P
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
+1 Mac
- Gilbert Harding
UGO buying 1up
- Matthew Horton
The IRS Buying H&R Block
- Louis Gray
New York Yankees buying ... oh, well, that doesn't work.
- AJ Kohn
India Buying Pakistan? :)
- Louis Gray
Michael Bay buying Joss Whedon
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
+1 Jonathan
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
+1 Jonathan Definitely
- Matthew Horton
NASA Buying Star Wars?
- Louis Gray
Rails 'buying' merb
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Microsoft Buying Linux
- Louis Gray
Microsoft buys Toys R Us
- Gilbert Harding
Sears buying HBC
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Valve buying Playstations
- Eric Rice
Like your grandma buying a nose ring http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- BairdWilliamson
Wikipedia buying TVTropes
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Apple buying Xerox Parc
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Activision (Instrument Controller Division) buying Gibson
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Encarta Buying Wikipedia
- Louis Gray
Huffy buying Cervélo (for you cycling fanatics)
- AJ Kohn
Richard: Waitaminute...
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Swarovski buying DeBeers
- Spidra Webster
Thompson Guides buying GoogleMaps
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Microsoft buying Digital Research
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
AJ: Or Trek buying Gary Fisher?
- Ken Sheppardson
Chevron buying the Sun
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Lucifer buying heaven
- LouCypher
You can tell you're still an LA n00b, Jandy. It's Thomas Guides. :))
- Spidra Webster
Vanilla buying chocolate
- LogEx
George Lucas buying Star Trek
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
+1 Ken - Mainly because I actually got that one ;-)
- Matthew Horton
Spidra, lol. I even started to look it up! I have a Thomas Guide somewhere, but haven't used it since I got an iPhone.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Digg buying reddit
- invariant - farewell FF
Forrester Buying Gartner
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Me buying a Mars Bar - easy, relatively cheap, good for me and ultimately the end of the Mars Bar.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Mike Nayyar buying his Dumpster
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Night Train buying Chateau Neuf du Pape.
- Spidra Webster
Nokia buying iPhone
- LouCypher
Starbucks buying Pete's
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
@Ken: Yup.
- AJ Kohn
Exxon Mobil buying Greenpeace
- Ken Sheppardson
The News of The World buying Twitter
- Zackatoustra
Microsoft buying Firefox.
- Jason, Incognito
from iPhone
Australia buying Bali
- LouCypher
is like, well, there's nothing truly like it, but it might be like Myspace buying Fox....
- Mike Shields
That would possibly /improve/ Myspace
- Matthew Horton
McDonalds buying Arby's?
- Matthew Horton
Louis Gray buying China.
- imabonehead
Boeing buying NASA
- LouCypher
Coca Cola buying Starbucks !
- Nir Ben Yona
Coke buying water
- Chris Nixon
Australia Buying New Zealand
- Louis Gray
National Enquirer buying Louis Grey?
- Matthew Horton
Simon Cowell buying Radiohead
- Mark Evans
Japan buying Hawaii
- LouCypher
U2 Buying Nine Inch Nails
- Louis Gray
Mark... blasphemy! :)
- LogEx
Warner Bros buying Lucas Film
- LouCypher
Radiohead buying Muse /me runs for his life!
- Matthew Horton
Hilton buying Paris
- LouCypher
Dracula buying the Blood Bank
- Matt G
Marriott buying W hotels ...
- Amani
I think the sentence should end like so: Like ______ _____ing ______. I would have SEVERAL suggestions then. ;)
- abacab
"The Most Boring Man in the World" buying Dos Equiis
- .LAG liked that
Steve Ballmer buying The Cluetrain Manifesto
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Mike Arrington buying Leo Laporte
- Larry Roth
Like a fat old guy buying a mail order bride.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Fail whale buying the skater snail
- Matthew Horton
Oil buying water
- Mark Evans
Premiere Radio buying FFundercats
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Bono buying Pirate Bay
- LouCypher
LA Galaxy buying Manchester United
- Larry Roth
Like Ask buying Google
- Keith - @tsudo
Pirate Bay users buying anything
- Larry Roth
Night buying day
- Mark Evans
Lars Ulrich buying Megadeth
- LouCypher
Russia Buying Europe
- Louis Gray
Flash Buying AJAX
- Louis Gray
Lars Ulrich buying Napster
- Larry Roth
I would say you're drunk with that Flash / Ajax one but I know it's not possible unless your milk is spiked.
- Mark Krynsky
The Queen (HRH Elizabeth Windsor) buying France
- WorldofHiglet
Yahoo buying Flickr.
- Gus
Safeway buying Whole Foods
- Matt Weeks
Louis: Aussie buying NZ! that will never happen
- Geer
Jon Bon Jovi buying Van Halen
- LouCypher
Timmies buying Starbucks
- WorldofHiglet
Nike buying Converse... oh wait..
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
The Earth buying the Moon
- WorldofHiglet
U.S. buying the moon
- LouCypher
WalMart buying Whole Foods
- Dominic Jones
Italy buying Mediteranian Sea
- LouCypher
Myspace buying Facebook
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
England Buying Wales
- Louis Gray
The Yankees buying a World Series...oh wait...
- Larry Roth
Silvio Berlusconi buying English Premier League
- LouCypher
Shopper buying his necessities, (it's a business decision)
- Wins Fern
Mark Cuban buying NBA
- LouCypher
Berlusconi & Murdoch buying NPR
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Edward Lewis buying Vivian Ward in Pretty Woman
- Andrew Smith
"India buying Pakistan" rofl
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
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LOL @ Rishabh
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Oracle buying Sun Microsystems.
- imabonehead
Scientology buying Anonymous
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Vanhalen buying Sammy Hagar
- Mac Sharp
Robert Scoble buying Louis Gray.
- Wins Fern
The Vatican buying Hubble Telescope
- LouCypher
lol you guys :-D
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Christmas Buying Hanukkah
- Louis Gray
Swine Flu buying Tamiflu
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Monkeys buying footballs for the expressed purpose of fornicating with them.
- abacab
Nerf buying the NFL
- Keith - @tsudo
Bing buying the Google search engine
- Ian
Java buying C#
- Ian
Chris Pirillo Buying Mona
- Louis Gray
HAHAHAHAHA, LG!
- Spidra Webster
Dodi Al-Fayed buying a Mercedes
- LouCypher
Amazon buying Zappos
- Ian
AT&T buying T-mobile
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Mattel buying LEGO
- LouCypher
Philip Morris buying Club Penguin
- Dominic Jones
My school buying me, and I kick it off.
- Lizunlong
Mickey Mouse Club buying Porn. oh wait. my bad. they had us at Spears.
- TheMacMommy
SFMUNI buying the Concorde
- Spidra Webster
Bono buying into "sunglasses are not cool".
- Gilbert Harding
Delta buying NASA.
- Frankie Warren
UGLY.COM buying BEAUTY.COM
- David Newman
Tom buying Jerry :)
- Serkan Unsal
Oracle buying ... oh wait ...
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Twitter buying Facebook
- Tyson Key
Facebook buying whole web
- Jacque
Apple buying Fisher Price.
- Jemm
Mark Zuckerberg buying Bill Gates
- Jacque
McDonald's buys Telco
- Tyson
A large social media company buying a small social media company.
- Big K
Facebook Buying FriendFeed Is Like Google Buying Lazyfeed.
- sean808080
Walmart buying Zappos
- phil baumann
Apple buying Facebook (and believe me it's coming)
- Thomas Power
Oracle buying salesforce.com
- Dave Food
Tinker-toys buying Lego?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
*smacks MVB* How DARE you besmirch tinker toys!!! Oh, and what's up with fiddling with your name, you trying to make me get MDV and MVB confused?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Lenovo Buying IBM (PC Group).. Ops!
- Jacque
Microsoft buying Apple.....
- Roberto Bonini
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A big fish buying a little fish
- Angelo John Lewis
Amazon buying Zappos
- Mark Essel
A man buying a sweet pretty dress, guess he pay and will never wear it himself. (some spend money just to impress others).
- abdellah
Real Madrid buying Cristiano Ronaldo?
- Faraz Mullick
Sony buying Apple?
- Tyson Key
Eric buying Sookie
- Andrew Terry
Volkswagen buying Skoda?
- Tyson Key
GM buying Ferrari
- Ladybug Heather
MySpace buying Twitter
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Macy's buying Gimble's
- Thom Kennon
The Sun buying The Guardian
- Patrick Jordan
Twitter buying the corpse of Pownce
- Tyson Key
Bacon buying Memes.
- imabonehead
IBM buying Seagate
- Tyson Key
Me buying a FriendFeed t-shirt. It will soon become a dust rag.
- jcunwired
Xzibit buying Chuck Norris (edit)
- AJ Batac
Real Madrid buying Manchester City
- Jan Mulder
Satan buying Heaven?
- Tyson Key
I liked MySpace buying Twitter.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
Samsung buying Motorola
- Tyson Key
Microsoft buying Mozilla
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
The RIAA buying The Pirate Bay
- Tyson Key
Home Depot buying Bob Villa
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
HomeBase buying B&Q
- Tyson Key
Bed, Bath & Beyond buying Ethan Allen
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
BILLY MAYS buying cocaine.
- jcunwired
Axe body spray buying Old Spice
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
Rupert Murdoch buying Huffington Post
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
Best Buy buying Amoeba's Records
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
WoW buying LOTRO
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
Huntingdon Life Sciences buying PETA
- Tyson Key
McDonald's buying StarBucks
- Tyson Key
Colleague here suggested "First blank FriendFeed, second blank...change that to Selling, and last blank...Out." Ouch?
- abacab
Hugh Grant buying Divine Brown's services.
- Jordi Soler
ITV buying the BBC
- Tyson Key
Yahoo! buying Google
- Tyson Key
Lycos buying Yahoo!
- Tyson Key
Dogpile buying Google
- Ladybug Heather
Me buying the kid who copied my work at school [edit] oops, I mean the kid who's work I copied at school, lol
- Slappy Line
Google buying Jaiku / Dodgeball
- Sidharth Dassani
Dolly Parton buying breast implants
- April Russo (app103)
VW buying Porsche?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
lol except didnt porsche end up cornering the market on VW shares? That would be like friendfeed buying facebook ;)
- Frankie Warren
a Hyundai owner buying a Ferrari for parts.
- Kevin Pedraja
U of Mich Flint buying Kettering University... sorry, no one else will get that
- Kevin L
Xing buying socialmedian - let's face it, they bought the talent! I've only heard good things about Xing though:)
- Michael Fidler
Yahoo buying Delicious.... oh wait
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Mephistopheles buying Dr Faust...
- Laurent
Jon Gosselin buying Ed Hardy...Eew
- Denise
Ted Turner buying Times-Warmer
- Houseofmax
Dumb buying Ass
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
like a cheerleader buying a software engineering book .. WHY ?! .. who will read it on facebook!
- fouad
AOL buying Facebook
- Tyson Key
N. Korea buying the US :P
- mjc
a nerd buying a condom. They'll never use it
- Jim Goldstein
China buying Taiwan
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
lol yours was the best.
- Tinu Abayomi-Paul
Ball Park buying Redondos
- Ron Hagenhoff
I used a "Kia bought Cadillac." analogy yesterday.
- Robert Miller
Hersheys buying Scharffen-Berger
- Spidra Webster
A bigass mofo kicking the shit out of you and then buying out the cops so he won't go to jail!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
Google buying Jaiku
- Bryan Lee
I just realized that I better buy a friendfeed T-shirt, before it's too late!
Jeff (the マクダジ of FF), John (a.k.a. dendroica), Burçak Çubukçu and 4 other people liked this
It may become a collectible.
- Morton Fox
...great point. it may become a collector's item soon.
- .LAG liked that
In that case, I better buy two:)
- Michael Fidler
That's it--it's just a monetization scheme! They are trying to get us to but t-shirts....there really isn't an acquisition....right?
- Larry Roth
I wish, but they might make a few more bucks in the process:)
- Michael Fidler
BTW, Here's the link to the store http://www.cafepress.com/friendf...
- Michael Fidler
When did they add boxer shorts? Funny!
- Michael Fidler
But than the money goes to..... Facebook :-/
- Amit Morson
Amit; I guess so. Besides, the founder's have enough money now to buy all of us shirts. Maybe they will discount them for us!
- Michael Fidler
Yankees 5, Red Sox 0 — the four-game sweep is almost complete; let's go Bombers! (ESPN) #mlb - http://espn.go.com/mlb...
"New York Yankees' Derek Jeter follows through on a two-run home run during the eighth inning of a baseball game against the Boston Red Sox Saturday, Aug. 8, 2009, in New York. The Yankees won the game 5-0."
- .LAG liked that
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Who are the Yankees and how could they possible beat the Boston Red Sox????
- Larry Roth
Need a hate button for events like this one ASAP ;) Edit: JK about the hate best rivalry in sports oh, yeah and Go Sox.
- Eric Logan
Yes, for once I'm glad the Yankees are streaking... because the Rays need all the help we can get for the AL wild card. :)
- Bill Sodeman
Flickr just got another $25 bucks for me. Why? They wouldn't let me search my old photos without a pro account. Monetization!
Grant Bierman, Susan Beebe, Mitchell Tsai and 5 other people liked this
Why do you like flickr vs google's Free picasaweb?
- Bryan Lee
Robert--it's OK paying for functionality, no?
- Larry Roth
I hope friendfeed does not do that in future.
- ashish
You get a lot for $25 a year, though.
- Spidra Webster
I still would like to know what you get from a $25 flickr account that you don't get with other free services?
- Bryan Lee
Personally, the Flickr pro account is the best money I spend every year.
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
Larry: yes, but search? That's not nice. THink about what happens after you die. Your photos disappear from public view.
- Robert Scoble
Flickr should let dead people in for free!
- Walter Logeman
One thing you get with Flickr Pro is "unlimited bandwidth." I have found their up-time to be excellent. Some other services will let you do "unlimited uploads" but will have some sort of bandwidth cap. If you hotlink to your photo and a lot of people look at it, you could hit the cap and the link could break. That shouldn't happen with Flickr Pro.
- thegeniusfiles
If you have a personal website and you die and your estate doesn't pay your hosting fees, your photos disappear from public view as well.
- Spidra Webster
@betogonza Just finished watching the Red Sox @ Yankees game. Now I'm playing Xbox and trying to ward off this headache. You?
Personally, I don't recognize the Yankees win. I didn't watch the game, but I am sure they either cheated or didn't deserve the win.
- Larry Roth
I'm a New England born diehard Red Sox fan and I think they deserved it tonight. They have a well-rounded team and their pitcher CC Sebathia nearly pitched a no-hitter.
- Daryn St. Pierre
YouTube HTML5 Demo - http://www.youtube.com/html5
can you see this page in your browser? No Flash required!
- Larry Roth
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Live now: Security Now 207 with Steve Gibson. Your questions, Steve's answers. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
Ace and Willem (@wim66) ☠ liked this
Finally get to watch it live and be in the chat room
- HiP_P
Best show on twit as far as real value is concerned.
- Dale
WOW.... not good about bank malware
- HiP_P
Hmm.. Imade a brief comment about 10 mins ago but had to reboot from a patch install but now it's gone. ?? I still say that SN is the most valuable netcast on TWiT TV.
- Dale
I see it there Dale
- Leo Laporte
That's just weird.. and the thread is not collapsed either. At least there nothing indicating it is. I'll try another refresh.
- Dale
It's back - refreshing the page did it.
- Dale
Buy.com controversy http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
- Nils Sandin
cheers Nils
- HiP_P
This is sort of security related---Happy Sysadmin Appreciation day to all those sys admins that keep us safe and secure!
- Larry Roth
Question [ 01 ] - "FireXware" in Canada wrote with the subject: SpinRite and SecurityNow got me a job and a new hard drive! Hello, I am a security now fanatic, I started listening only a few months ago and have finally caught up. I am pleased to say that I have finally had a chance to use SpinRite in a real data recovery situation. Being 16 years old, and the only tech savvy person in...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 02 ] - Chris in Australia wonders about the new attack on AES-256... I'm sure you will cover the new attack on AES that reduces the complexity for recovering an AES256 key to 2^119 (and possibly less): see Bruce Schneier’s blog. I have read that this attack does not affect AES128. Why is that? And, if this attack cannot be modified and applied against AES128, does that mean that AES128 (with a complexity of 2^128) is now more secure than AES256 (with a complexity of 2^119)?
- Leo Laporte
hi from georgia
- daveccorey
Question • [ 03 ] - John Hughan in San Francisco, California has a cure for Jet Lag... Hey Steve and Leo, I heard that the two of you (especially Leo) sometimes have trouble with jetlag. I wanted to mention a book that I've used that has helped eliminate jetlag, no matter which direction I'm traveling or how many time zones I'm crossing (I've done up to 10). Evidently it's based on a...
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- Leo Laporte
Reading can make one drowsy so I can see that as a good patch for jetlag.
- Dale
Question [ 04 ] - John Kennedy from Metairie, LA asks Steve to touch the bleeding edge... Hi Steve, I am a long time SpinRite customer and Security Now listener. On the Security Now netcast, I often hear you comment that you do not use current software versions because they are unstable and unproven. Some examples that come to mind are your comments on sticking with Windows XP and...
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- Leo Laporte
[ 05 ] - Andrew McKinnon in Brisbane Australia wonders about his iPhone's Internet address: Hi Steve and leo, My question relates to the iPhone: Basically until a month ago my iPhone was reading my IP address as 144.233.xxx.xxx, however on recent days it has been reading 10.1.xxx.xxx. Am I right in assuming that my iPhone is now being proxied by my ISP as this seems like a private...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 06 ] - Kevin Ghadyani from Overland Park, KS worries about the number of HTML errors and warnings on the Security Now! page of GRC... 13,853 errors and 24 warning(s) says the W3C validator!! I thought you would've fixed yours because you're like that, but even msn.com validates. I'm extremely surprised to see this, and would hope you'll fix the errors over time. I've never...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 07 ] - Mike V in Greeley, CO *really* wants security... NOTE: I am totally ok with you reading this on the show. Hey, Steve. I'm only 14, but I love your podcast and every episode is a journey into the complex world of security. I wish I could say that I've listened to every one of your episodes, but I just started tuning in in March. I have a system for mobile USB security...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 08 ] - 16-year old Scott in Upstate New York makes a brilliant observation about Firefox Privacy... Steve and Leo, I am 16 years old and have been listening to Security Now since episode 25. Your show has taught me everything I could want about security and how my computer and the Internet works. Keep up the great work! Anyway, a few episodes ago, you discussed how Firefox...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 09 ] - Patti Clark an early CompuServe employee in Knoxville, TN remembers with us... Hi, Steve and Leo. I was listening to episode 205 on Lempel and Ziv when my ears perked up on the CompuServe segment. I spent most of the 1980's as an employee of CompuServe. You were correct when mentioning that CompuServe was a time-sharing company and H&R Block was their parent. The...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 10 ] - David Cox in Colorado Springs reports that Security Now! almost killed him!... Hi Steve, I began listening to Security Now! shortly after you and Leo began with episode one, while I was stationed in Cornwall, England with the U.S. Navy. I drove one of those tiny Smart cars back then, you know, the poor man’s Mercedes. It was called a “Smart for Two” and they are slowly...
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- Leo Laporte
Question[ 11 ] - Robert Antman in Los Angeles has a thought about “Perfect Passphrases...” Dear Steve, Thank you for providing the Perfect Passwords service on your website. This password generator is perfect for many applications, such as generating a pseudo-random WPA password. But it is not so perfect in other applications, such as generating a pseudorandom passphrase for typing into...
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- Leo Laporte
Question [ 12 ] - Jeff, hiding out somewhere in the USA doesn't want to blink! Subject: RFID in credit card - should I run and not walk away? Steve, My Chase credit card was approaching its expiration date and I received the new card in the mail. My new card came with a feature called Blink (a.k.a. RFID Chip). The average person probably thinks that waving a card in front of a terminal...
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- Leo Laporte
River Cafe (5/5) - http://www.yelp.com/biz...
"We enjoyed a wonderful Sunday brunch at the River Cafe. Pre-planned as a surprise for my mother's 85th birthday, the River Cafe did not disappoint. Most all reviewers have commented on the view, so I…"
- Larry Roth
Change style sheets by clicking on a link - http://www.codelifter.com/main...
User has the option to change style sheets on a Web page.
- Henning von Vogelsang
This is an interesting concept, something we have employed to allow users to change text size. I am curious to know your thoughts about other practical applications. Also, do you think it could impact brand?
- Larry Roth
Practical applications could involve Usability improvements for people with impaired eye sight (not necessarily blind people, but those who need really big font sizes with strong contrast). In that sense, it does have an influence on the brand experience, as all User Experience is part of the brand experience. But it's a minor part considered, if the brand promises are not fulfilled otherwise.
- Henning von Vogelsang
What is the best movie car chase or chases?
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Mitchell Tsai, Dani Radu, Ahsan Ali aka. Slick and 78 other people liked this
The French Connection, hands down.
- James (!?)
Ronin... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Michael Hocter
Bourne again has some good ones.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ronin for sure, follwoed closely by the fight/chase scene in Matrix Revolution.
- Admiral Anika
Surprisingly, for someone who likes car chases, I don't recall them too well. The most recent ones that come to mind are the racing scenes in Fast & Furious and the freeway attack/kidnapping in The Kingdom
- LANjackal
I like the Matrix Reloaded one.
- mridul
I'm being serious here, but BAD BOYS 2 has the single best car chase scene, takes place on the bridge.
- Roger @ CineVegas
BULLITT with Steve McQueen
- Billy Warhol
+1 ronin
- Marco
speed 1
- Demetrios the Traveller
Speed.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Ronin
- .LAG liked that
another vote for Ronin here
- martha
Catch that Beast - insanely long "We need this movie to be half an hour longer, just ad car chases" syndrome
- David Miller
Blues Brothers
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
from iPhone
The ones in the Transporter movies.
- Rahul Das
The French Connection
- Nick
Gosh, can't remember Ronin very well, must watch it again.
- Kol Tregaskes
what mridul said: matrix reloaded, oh yes!
- esther ♥ ♫
The latest Matrix?
- Daniele Di Gregorio
I love the fact that the credits of The Blues Brothers lists 273 stunt drivers
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I'd have to say "Bullet" & "Ronin" are tide in my mind for best chase scene.
- Bluesun 2600
Mustang vs.Charger, with Steve McQueen as Bullitt, is tops in my book!
- CJ Guest
Just watched Ronin on Youtube, Umm!! kinda lacks action when compared to Matrix Reloaded but never seen that kinda driving before!! Hard to choose between Ronin and Matrix Reloaded though, it's girl on bike v/s girl on the wheel. I say Trinity (in that shiny leather outfit) beats the blonde.
- mridul
for the record: Ronin is REAL bad ass skilled driving, Matrix Reloaded is mostly CG crap! record book closed :)
- Marco
Matrix 2, followed by Bourne 2.
- Roberto Bonini
Ronin is #1, but the French Connection is a close 2
- Davis Freeberg
Ronin by a mile
- Steve
matrix
- a L e X r A y
Ronin followed by the original Italian Job (http://www.youtube.com/watch...) Something about mini coopers jumping from rooftop to rooftop that is just awesome :)
- Robert DeBord
Sorry, but you're all wrong :). This is the best car chase ever shot http://www.youtube.com/watch.... 9 minutes, one single take, no speeding up, no special effects, no blocked street, excessively dangerous and perfectly illegal. It's also an amazing tour of Paris. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... for more.
- Jérôme Flipo
Diamonds are Forever
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
every time this question comes up, i am the only person who mentions the jetcar/bike chase at the end of "THX-1138." :-)
- Karim
another vote for Ronin... either one of the 2 car chase scenes in that one edge out French Connection.
- Jim in Real Time
If you didn't click my link, Jeremy Clarkson said C'était un Rendez-vous "makes Bullitt look like a cartoon". Now, go watch it and let me know your new opinion :) http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Jérôme Flipo
clicked it. that is cool.
- Marco
Cool vid. Seen it before and still contend French Connection best, if only because of its back-story.
- James (!?)
one expects the driver to get out of the car at the end of "C'était un Rendez-vous" and pull some dead pigeons out of the radiator grille. :-D
- Karim
Taxi (French version)
- Keith Hollingsworth
from iPhone
yeah Matrix Reloaded, Ronin, and Bourne series all have some excellent chases. I haven't seen Bullit or French Connection YET. Hear good things.
- Nathan Chase
Ronin and French Connection.
- TVTechGrl
Bullitt with Steve McQueen
- Larry Roth
Bourne trilogy for me, Ronin was good also, maybe even the Italian Job.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
The Blues Brothers.
- Ton Zijp
Bullet
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Ronin.
- Mycaptain
Gone in 60 Seconds. Eleanor. (surprised it took this long to get a mention)
- chrisofspades
BULLITT.
- Steven Perez
French Connection & Ronin tie for me.
- Pete Delucchi
Bourne Identity drive in the classic mini and the opening chase scene from The Transporter are very good.
- Alex Scoble
Bullitt, Ronin, French Connection.
- AJ Kohn
Gone in 60 Seconds and Matrix Reloaded..
- Varun "Maverick" Pitale
Bourne Supremacy>Orognal Italian Job> Matrix Reloaded
- Vemana Madasu
Ronin is the best because it is real! Matrix is nice too but it is special effects
- Amir
Another vote for Blues Brothers here!
- Mellissa
Death Proof.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
The Matrix - Reloaded and yes, Tarantino's Death Proof || I also love French Connection!
- Frank Da Silva
Terminator / L.A. River
- Marg Uerite
While 'C'etait un Rendez vous' isn't strictly a movie chase scene, it's a great drive. My vote is for Ronin though. It's pretty much what you think of when you think of modern car chases.
- Will Higgins™
Ronin, because it was real cars.
- Andrew Leyden
The Blues Brothers
- thinkQuick
Ronin and the Bourne movies
- Norbert Evenich
Dandy Dan and his gang chasing Bugsy and Fat Sam in Bugsy Malone.
- Mark H
Ronin without doubt.
- Faraz Mullick
Transporter
- Bora Mesut PALAS
Ronin by a landslide
- Bwana ☠
I hate to say this because the movie itself is absolutely terrible but.. The scene in Bad Boys where the cars are flipping over the Ferrari.. OMGWTFBBQ.. I think CGI is the way to go with car chases..
- Can Koklu
French Connection, Ronin, Bourne movie had a decent one.
- David J Lowe
The Bourne Identity had the best one IMHO, though the one in Bourne Supremacy came close to beating it. Ronin was fantastic too. Michael Bay puts together some entertaining ones, even if they are over the top - the chases in The Rock, Bad Boys, and Bad Boys 2 are definitely fun to watch.
- Eric P
The Dark Knight "prisoner transport" chase was pretty awesome.
- Steve Lynch
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The chase scene from Bullit is great. The chase scene with the crane smashing through buildings from Terminator 3 is a fave as well.
- Jeremy Brooks
Great thread, gonna have to go back and watch a few movies. By the way, the horse chase in first Lord of the Rings was quite good :)
- jcunwired
Blues Brothers hands down. Winnebago in a lake, police car lands INSIDE a semi, 20+ police car pile-up, army helicopters, nazis, what else do you need?!
- Peter Ghosh
Blues Brothers & French Connection are tied in my mind for best, but I love the chase scene in "Day Watch" as well.
- Jennifer Dittrich
So which Ronin chase is better, the Audi / Citroen / Mercedes chase or the BMW / Peugeot one later in the movie?
- Andrew Leyden
RONIN.
- Zafer Yılmaz
Ronin
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ronin, for sure...
- DAL
Ronin, The French Connection then Bullitt
- David Monroe
Chrome OS has the same problem as "iPhone SDK 1.0", you can't write native apps. I get that's the whole point of it, and that's why it sucks
Larry Roth liked this
I think people are overlooking the power of having consistent interfaces that are dictated by the OS standard controls. I think it will be a usability setback when each app is designed differently.
- Larry Roth
apple vs google_2 - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
"Personally, I think there is room for another vendor in the OS space. It doesn’t always have to be one company OR another. One can argue that thanks to the Web and Web apps, Mac, Windows, and Linux/Unix (and others) are enjoying a better co-existence than ever. I haven’t read the Google announcement and am looking forward to their release, but I will say that historically, Google has not had a strong track record for usability–something that is very important at the OS level. This is something that will give Apple an advantage perhaps, for some time to come."
- Larry Roth
I hate to disagree with Jakob Nielsen but password masking IS important. http://larryroth.net/blog... #usability #ux
A quick blog post with thoughts regarding one of the intersectiona of security and usability.
- Larry Roth
Am I the only one that is having problems with the Firefox 3.5 disk image after download? After download it isn't recognized.
Worked fine for me.
- Larry Roth
@richardsession yeah, you might be right about Shaq's FTs... but what are we talkin' bout? Practice? Are we talkin' about practice? .LOLz
LOL!
- Larry Roth
Michael Jackson – Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (Single Version) - http://www.last.fm/music...
Goodbye Michael.....
- Larry Roth
Rush – Tom Sawyer - http://www.last.fm/music...
Canadian rock is quite simply--fantastic.
- Larry Roth
Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird - http://www.last.fm/music...
OK--so a true confession, I have yelled "Free Bird" at probably every concert I have ever been to.
- Larry Roth
Edward Zwart, 2ndmoon©, Valley and 25 other people liked this
Oh yes. My fave.
- Josh Haley
That was a good album.
- Christopher Harley
None better. Even as good as Thriller is, I have too much childhood emotional attachment to this one. Like roller rinks and stuff.
- Josh Haley
hell yeah, this is the jam indeed. these yungstaz dont know how we get down with our ladies. go listen to weezy, suckaz.
- Carlos Ayala
*high five, Carlos*
- Josh Haley
Love it, thanks for reminding us
- Janice
I think this song and "Can't stop till I get enough" are my favs...thanks for posting
- Larry Roth
Here you go, Larry http://friendfeed.com/joshhal...
- Josh Haley
RT @shimonta: the twitter experiment UT dallas http://www.youtube.com/watch.... Great use of twitter to educate.
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Wow...interesting find. Can't say I am sold on the idea. While it's great to increase class participation, there is something to be said for encouraging people to speak up. Face-to-face communications is such an important part of our culture, and something that people are probably most judged on. Do you agree?
- Larry Roth
I do agree with some part of your notion. For me, face-to-face communication is valuable, however some people have problems expressing themselves while speaking, so they prefer writing instead. I'm trying to figure out how students can concentrate for so long when dealing with listening and Twittering at the same time.
- Nir Ben Yona
I think it's great to help out the students that do have a problem expressing themselves as well--I want to make sure that we help transition to expressing themselves verbally...something I think is a key to being successful. My experience has shown a direct correlation to how well spoken someone is and the opportunities that are afforded to that individual.
- Larry Roth
That's true, although some of the great writers did have problems expressing themselves face-to-face.
- Nir Ben Yona
53% of my 96,000 followers don't follow directions. They are useless. The others will discuss this on FriendFeed here:
Tyson Key, Mike, J. Abdul-Qahhar and 132 other people liked this
you mean like so? :)
- Iwan
huh?
- Rasmus Lauridsen
:-) seriously, everyone wants followers but what good are they if they won't do anything you tell them to do? Useless!
- Robert Scoble
hahah that is soo funny
- Susan Beebe
yet sooo true. wondering just how long until people figure it out
- Susan Beebe
huh?
- Gabriel
is this a timed challenge?
- Iwan
Hmmm...
- Adam
Literally LOLing at this, Robert.
- ha3rvey (wants confit)
Yes master...
- Chris Forbes
i'm not sure what you mean ;)
- Suzannah Archibald
You're not the boss of me! :)
- jcunwired
I want to know how many of them consider themselves social media experts?
- Colin Anawaty
bit of a pompous mood today? when have you ever expected anyone to follow directions on the net?
- Doubledown_inSL
I was lost when Robert was at the 140 conference - he wasn't active here so I didn't know what to read...haha
- Mike Bracco
*looks around for FF koolaid*
- Susan Beebe
Fine, so I am useless.
- Julie Anderson
Getting people to follow directions on the internet is akin to herding cats. Best of luck. :)
- Keith Bourgoin
Any reccomendations for friend feed convos on the iPhone?
- Stuart Tracte
lol
- Miguel Rodriguez
FF sux nardz
- Doubledown_inSL
How could I defy the techno-hulk?
- Amanda Magee
ahah, like most of the followers on twitter =)
- Pierre TAMISIER
You are fired up today...you might want to switch to decaf. GOOD GODS, WHAT AM I SAYING.
- M.L. Stone
but 47% of people go on FF? that is quite good
- Billy Fung
So, 47% or your followers are expected to discuss here? The comment counter is going to explode.
- Brome
http://friendfeed.com/iphone works well. At least, it works well on my Android
- Keith Bourgoin
3% of Scobes followers are still trapped on Myspace
- Doubledown_inSL
twitter wasn't an interactive medium was it? :P
- jaspio
What?
- fanch_guy
Kevin: only about 42,000 of my 96,000 followers are here. Useless! I think they are all spammers or bots.
- Robert Scoble
I'm amazed how fast this thread is growing.
- Nick Prince
You mean 95,999 followers.
- Robert Peterson
Very clever.
- Nicole
that mass growing of the thread would be the 47% who can follow instructions ;o)
- Carl Grint
I keep having to block spammy, icky followers on twitter, mostly porn and get-rich schemers..augh!
- Susan Beebe
I refuse to respond to such a claim!
- Al Fuller
seriously, how much is FriendFeed paying you?
- Greg Hollingsworth
"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11
- don manu
What am I not supposed to do? Where is the line?
- Brian Goss
Spammers and bots eh? Great minds think alike?
- ralphsaunders
What prize are you going to give your 100,000 follower?
- Mike Bracco
*reading and where is my popcorn? ;) ;)*
- Ronald
Greg: I got a free t-shirt.
- Robert Scoble
LOL
- Schneider Mike
Flame bater
- Ron Hudson
I won't comment this thread ;)
- DAL
promised to cure cancer at 100k
- Doubledown_inSL
following on twitter AND NOT subscribing on FF = useless?
- Alexei Zheglov
Does it count if I follow you on FF, but not twitter?
- Keith Bourgoin
Spammers are everywhere though including here.
- Brian Sullivan
@Doubledown_inSL Now that's funny.
- Mike Dowden
Power is a double-edged sword, Robert...lol... can be tough to galvanize one's
- Carol Lynn Martens
wow... think we could crash friendfeed with this thread?
- Chip McComb
ROBERT! I sent you like 500 @ replies on twitter, wth aren't you replying? j/k
- Justin Hopkins
I don't get it
- Amelia Rangel
Do you want followers or slack-jawed lackys?
- Mark Petzold
how many comments per minute will appear in average :D
- Flavio
LOL @ Justin
- Doubledown_inSL
Huh, what? Should I comment here?
- Kandeezie
No one has to do anything anyone says/
- Paul Kinlan
let's see how 'stableizer' FF really runs *bumping up this thread *g* *
- Ronald
No. I refuse to. But that doesn't make me useless. :-P
- Ladybug Heather
show me a bridge - I'll jump after you!
- BEX
FF is great, it just requires a higher level of interaction that many people don't have time for or interest in.
- Stuart Tracte
new game: instead of "simon says" it is now "scoble says"
- Chris Rogers
That's truth but I am one of the direcitons follower
- Gent Thaqi
Just following instructions.
- Larry Roth
Glad I caught this in my Twitter feed - I'd hate to be a bad directions-follower.
- Shawn Farner
whatever you say
- George Deane
^^ yeppers, i robot :D
- Ronald
If you're happy and you follow (Scoble), clap your hands!
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
I may of missed something, my bad..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Must do what Scoble says... Slow down comment box... forgot what this tread was about.
- Drew S
Doh! Sorry, I clicked that link by accident - I'm in the 53%. As you were...
- Andrew Jordan
/claps hands
- George Deane
do what?
- Mick
I agree that FF is better for tracking conversations, and hopefully @Twitter will get that. I still spend more time on Twitter
- Matthew Scott Horbund
I follow directions but am often useless. Where do I fit?
- Aaron Ball
53% your numbers are inaccurate.
- Carlos Ayala
This should be interesting...
- Robert Lee
YES O LORD AND MASTER, WHAT IS THY BIDDING :)
- ftg888
wow, I'm not the only one who has no clue what's going on..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Grr... shouldn't have commented... Now I'll be getting IM updates forever!!!!
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
I think this is just a psychology experiment...
- Chip McComb
lol
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Commenting so as not to appear useless
- Herb Hernandez
hahaha
- Ronald
Carlos: lol
- Larry Roth
what is actually ment by "directions"?
- Clemsen
yes how is the number 53% found.
- Daniel Graversen
as usual im in the minority (43%), Im never in the majority :(
- George Deane
I hope you're wrong, Chip. Otherwise, you didn't see me here.
- Shawn Farner
reporting for duty...
- Todd Goldstein
baaaaah
- mikepk
Scoble does have a lot of followers...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
I thought men were basically incapable of asking for directions, so why would they follow them? ;-)
- Julie Bovee Hill
Robert, you are looking angry today. Take it easy, man!
- Walter Lounsbery
d'oh! I meant 47%
- George Deane
I am in building 44. Can you give me directions to 43?
- David Connell
??? is this a test of the national broadcasting system?
- Robert Wilkins
damn it scoble! get a real job! =)
- Jonathan Crossland
Wow--never thought I'd wish for a "Don't Like" button or link, Robert!
- Kathy Fitch
Robert's comments are very important particularly for political & development work.
- Justin Long
Also important for business marketing.
- Justin Long
U made me upset in first look then I realized what u mean and I found Im not not one of those. Hope you are not angry sir and wont fire me..
- Abhijeet Singh
I need a job like Scoble's... but in Miami.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
to comment or not to comment.... that is the question...
- Kim
Are trending topics on friendfeed called "friending topics"?
- Larry Roth
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) What was the question again?
- don manu
hehehe... nice trick
- Gustavo Munoz
from twhirl
i think this thread goes 'epic' on FF ;)
- Ronald
Robert, I'm up to the CHALLENGE of not being "useless." Actually, my business communication students at SFSU just heard my initial remarks which included THREE RULES FOR SUCCESS in BUSINESS [and everything else!] The rules: LISTEN CAREFULLY, READ CAREFULLY and FOLLOW ALL DIRECTIONS!
- Shari Weiss
Apathy is the big killer of networks.
- Justin Long
I'm here. That makes me not useless, I guess?
- Celia
Robert Wilkins: it is my test to see how many spammers, bots, or jerks are following me.
- Robert Scoble
I get alot of spam about sites who gives you followers, whats the point of the followers have no interresting to give to you? And whats most crap is that they have enabled auto-follow back.. grrr :P don't sign up on those sites people.!
- Qbat
I like the constantly refreshed list but it doesn't half distract me from my own comment!
- Joshua Davidson
hahahahaha, ok.. now I get it
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
I Welcome our FF Overlords!
- Al Fuller
Does this mean that you expect there to be 45,120 comments here?
- Andrew Pass
I like Viagra.
- Paul Puri
:-P
- Lorenzo Strambi
a spammer...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
this is the only ff link of yours i followed.
- moogs
You are usefull for us Robert =)
- Qbat
I am getting a few new people to follow here, which is good!
- Robert Scoble
Qbat aka Larsen: Agreed!
- Larry Roth
I am not a bot! I am a free man!
- Jeff Newfeld
Talking directions?
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
i guess i've been lucky - i don't think i've seen any bots yet on FF (going now to check my short followers list)
- Chris Rogers
Why do you think that people take the time to comment here?
- Andrew Pass
This thread is like watching the real time web on steroids.I can't type fast enough to keep the comment box in view....yikes!
- Dana Fosburgh
Robert - me too, thanks! :)
- Susan Beebe
All you have to do is insult people and then they come :-)
- George Deane
Notice how many of us follow when we are told we are not following.
- Sandy McMerty
So, you're saying that people who don't use FF are spammers, bots or jerks ?
- Djordje Lukic
So when you figure out how many there are, How are you going to auto filter them out?
- Robert Wilkins
I read, I clicked, I arrived. I guess that means I'm not useless.
- Mike
This comment intentionally left useless.
- phil baumann
Seriously though let's not take the term 'followers' too literally. Just because I read a column doesn't mean I share the authors views. Just because you say lets discuss this on friendfeed doesn't mean I log onto FF and.......ah. OK....What is thy bidding?!
- Joshua Davidson
You suck, man. I refuse to be a minion. Oh, wait... shit...
- Joey Gibson
<Insert clever comment here.>
- CAJ, somewhere else
Am I in the 53% or the 47%?
- Tony Connor
What type of followers do you need Robert? Tell us and maybe we will try to be better.
- Qbat
DeVries: oh, I understand. We need better notified control.
- Robert Scoble
150th
- Harscoat
Well, those who don't do what you tell them are actually more useful. No for you directly, but for the society. They mix your directions with their own to create new ones.
- Kirill Petrovsky
Is this a roll call :)
- Boon Kwee
i'm just commenting to hang with the cool kids
- ukgrad98
^^ Nope 'happy hour' at Scoble's ;) ;)
- Ronald
"Follower" is a weird term. "Watcher" may be better. Follower implies action and engagement, and anybody who's used social media for more than 20 minutes knows that just isn't true.
- Jared Smith
Have I responded quick enough not to deemed useless. I feel a little baaaaa now.
- Crispin Heath
Jared: bing!
- Robert Scoble
So if you ever figure out how to deal with the bots and all the "I will teach you to make millions with Twitter" junk let us all know!
- Marshall Huwe
you are talking about twitter, they would be useless but they are numbers and number always count.
- Madhav Tripathi
If we need to use friendfeed to be useful, are there any clients or is it only the webinterface.
- Daniel Graversen
Marshall: this is how. Bots and spammers don't get FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Daniel: what is wrong with the web?
- Robert Scoble
inscribo ergo sum (I write therefore I am)
- Jeff Newfeld
Nothing, just seem deficult to follow more threads. But that is probably not needed because the whole conversation is in once place. No need to multitask.
- Daniel Graversen
is it just me or is the most used "plugin" on FriendFeed twitter?
- Qbat
Actually, I find FriendFeed useless. I was reading an article about Twitter being useless, but the news get faster there. We'll have to say thanks to TwitScoop for that.
- Dragos Pirvu
I never use FriendFeed. it just agregates all my other feeds into one feed. thats all :D
- Zafarali
Dragos: wait until you compare search here to Twitter before calling it useless. Among other features.
- Robert Scoble
No bot me, no. Count me out for that one.
- Ton Zijp
dragos: all the news on Twitter is on FF, plus FF has better conversation - what do you think is missing?
- Chris Rogers
FriendFeed enables comments on your tweets.!
- Qbat
Robert Scoble: I think the proliferation of tools for Twitter let you slice and dice the data the way you want it and that is helpful to many. I do like the Web interface for FriendFeed, but imagine the possibilities that some cool tools could bring. No?
- Larry Roth
So then we need someone in your vast network to write us a little app that will map the Twitter users who comment on FF and then block all the rest! Or at least create a "Real" Group in TweetDeck for me.
- Marshall Huwe
You don't want followers, Robert—you want minions. I've got a few myself, and they're great.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
ha!
- Ned Baugh
there are SO MANY COMMENTS HERE
- Zafarali
the best part is u can track em
- Zafarali
Is this the way to San Jose? err ... I mean Friend Feed?
- Tom Horn
Twitter should have a option that people who want's to follow you must write a small text for WHY you should let them follow you or the other way around
- Qbat
Did you know that more than 90% of all statistics are made up? ;)
- Tim Young
I'm getting tired of having to block the spam followers everyday.
- Ron Hudson
Working on both FF and twitter - but FF is easier to follow comment threads
- kathysd
What is interesting is I am already following most of the people who commented here which proves my point.
- Robert Scoble
I was carefully looking at this list the other day http://spinn3r.com/rank... - turns out many people on it barely/if at all - use friendfeed.
- Nir Ben Yona
Can you guys slow down - I can't keep up :(
- Al Fuller
I think Twitter and FF provide different things and there is space on the internet for both :)
- Tom Griffin
I've had friendfeed for quite a while, but I've not used it much, how do I expand this chat?
- Ron Hudson
How does this post check for bots?
- Amit Morson
Followers can not be useless. At least you can be proud of the sheer scale. And I believe, you don't want to have a conversation with thousands people at once. That would be truly useless.
- Grigori Milov
I am here with you - I think it is that only half want to have a say.
- Robert Freeze
On Twitter I talk strangers V on Friendfeed I am among friends
- Asgeir
I'd like twitter to have a "report spam" button, this would avoid quite a lot of hassle...
- don manu
Ron: just click on comments link under the topic
- Qbat
ya like that! thanks. How do I do that?
- Ron Hudson
Why is it important that followers comment & discuss U2, @Scobleizer? BC U R green?
- Petter Griph
Amit: bots don't follow directions from people who are not their owners. No bots here.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed should get a comment button under all the comments
- Qbat
So, 47% will choose to do their own thing and not comment on here. Wait - what? Doh! And 65% won't read the comments that have already been made because there are already 'too many' :-D
- Andy Bold
Qbat: click on the time under the post and open it in a new window
- Robert Freeze
Andy: I'm in the 35% that read the comments. Didn't want my lame joke to be a REPEATED lame joke. :D
- Tim Young
Robert Freeze: aaah.! Thank you =)
- Qbat
Robert: unless perhaps the bot has directions to comment on every Scoble post?
- Brian Sullivan
This reminds me of that "following directions" test from grade school. 1. Read all instructions before beginning. (2 -> N-1). Lots of crazy instructions which we all did. N. Don't do any of the previous instructions. Turn the page over, write your name, and wait.
- Don Faulkner
Robert Freeze, that never worked for me
- Amit Morson
Go watch Perez Hilton's video about being beaten up last night and going on techcrunch
- Mark
time for a pint :-p
- tony bland
Robert Freeze that worked. that should be labeled a bit better
- Ron Hudson
Andy: I didn't tell you to read all the comments! :-)
- Robert Scoble
If I reply here that I think it's less than 53% I may actually prove myself wrong. So be it.
- Arnd Jan Gulmans
Should be a rewind and play button so you can play back all the comments.. like google wave
- Qbat
Lots of users are already on the service but, under utilize it. Really still don't understand how powerful the service is or how to use the filtering system.
- Eric Logan
And how many minutes/comments-in does the Scobalizer stop reading the comments? Opps, I just see that we are not supposed to "read" to comments...only discuss them.
- Stephen Price
Thats cause they were busy seeing what I am doing!! LOL, your not the only person bossing people around.
- T.S. Elliott
How big is the percentage of your followers that doesn't follow you?
- Arnd Jan Gulmans
I love Friend Feed!
- Robert Freeze
Click here for 101 ways to get rich ... Woooops, sorry wrong percentage group.
- Chris Spencer
The reason I don't use friendfeed very much is because there is no SocialScope support on my blackberry. As soon as I can get a sweet blackberry app I'll be here more.
- Ron Hudson
Now if I can just get my mom on here. http://www.building43.com/blogs...
- Robert Freeze
I don't want to be in the wrong group. :P
- Sheryl
Ron: http://fftogo.com
- Tom Griffin
Tim: I'm a 65%er :) Though I am now in the 13.9% that skim comments to see what's going on. And also in the 29.4% of people managing to find replies to their comments in the Scobleflow. Definitely in the 100% of people wanting a Comment link at the end of each conversation since I moved back to Safari. Oh, and also in the 100% of people who take conversations off topic while making up statistics.
- Andy Bold
Done, in.
- Thom Kennon
Tom Griffin, I saw that, and it's "usable" but it's nowhere near the elegance and simplicity of say UberTwitter,SocialScope, or TweetGenious. I use SocialScope. It is an absolute Killer app.
- Ron Hudson
Do I get partial credit for skimming the comments? No? Sorry, master.
- malackey
Cool, so, I'm in the 47%, 35%, 29.4%, 100% and 100% ranges! I'm all over the place. Thanks Scoble and Andy for helping me learn something new about myself.
- Tim Young
I see the "224 more comments" bit on FF and know I don't need to add another comment. Erm...
- Ian Betteridge
FFtogo doesn't auto-refresh
- Ron Hudson
To follow or not to follow, or to passive follow versus have an active conversation?
- Peter Simoons
More stats: 41% will miss Robert's reply to them in the reply flood, 26% will see it and not answer, 22% will have ADD (the tech curse) and already be doing something else, and 1% will see the reply and see it as an excuse to make up some more statistics. (And reply that I definitely have not read all the comments ;-) )
- Andy Bold
It's all about the user experience though - it's easier to comment to someone's question on Twitter by quickly clicking @ than click a link through to FF, faff about sizing the screen on the screen to wait for the comments to load, read them and then post, so yeah, I can see why many respond on Twitter than FF. I'm doing that more myself as currently very busy with work projects. This...
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- Sally Church
And, somewhere in the horde, somebody will belatedly realise that he somehow manages to fall into Robert Scoble's "useful" list. Darn it - will need to post more signal and less noise now! ;)
- Andy Bold
I refuse to fall prey to this ruse, Robert. Oh...wait... ;)
- Robert J Taylor
I added you to my Live acct weeks ago. No reply.
- Bret
I'm too sleepy to read all this right now.
- Daniel Zarick
clever early morning link-bait
- Jake Ludington
nice one :) you should do an NHST on that hahaha
- The Pageman
They should change that from "followers" to something like "watchers" or "subscribers". As in "I have a subscription to the Scoble lifestream."
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
discuss (Would hate to be useless)
- Charlie Anzman
So is this a casual social experiment to determine rough percentages of active/rabid users who like to engage/participate with those they follow?
- Eden Hensley
I completely agree! Unfortunately I might be considered part of that 53%! The only reason I am responding is because someone else I follow re-tweeted it. I personally have over 5000 followers but only regularly interact with 50 or so. Isn't Social Media about conversation and being engaging? Hmmm......
- Robert Dominguez
Robert: Very interesting experiment, one should use there own judgment over there (twitter) regarding bots and spammers.
- Eran Even-Kesef
@Scoble: I'm listening. What are you going to say, or what did I miss?
- Jason Cronkhite
from Alert Thingy
It is a direction. Anybody must walk all alone ... so, what is the point?
- bishoph
same here, most people don't read
- Michael Reese
Smile and wave boys, smile and wave:)
- Rick Bucich
I too am tired of blocking spam followers on twitter...
- W_B_K
great man！！no protect update.... and i just follow ..i 'd like be the unless fllower..lol~~
- HealingBrush
Not being a bot, I am compelled to follow directions.
- Randall Fink
I am useless :-(
- Andrew
Re blackberry access, try http://friendfeed.com/iPhone - it's supposed to look good on BB too
- Andy Bold
from email
Andy Bold, I played with iPhone page too, but it's just a pain to have to open the browser. The blackberry environment is all about easy simple communication. If I have to jump through hoops it breaks down. Not to mention a friend feed experience without push is not a friendfeed experience.\
- Ron Hudson
99% of your followers will not read the 250 comments proceeding this one, and I am one of those 99%
- Steve C
That'll teach me for ignoring Twitter for a few minutes a couple of hours ago! Late as usual.
- Graham Stewart
Hey, much better here! Twitter sux.... after getting locked out of @freddavis for months with NO reply from Twitter, even after you tweeted @ev and @biz (thanks!)... so I my new Twitter name is @fucktwtr ... but much better to use FriendFeed!
- Fred Davis
I almost thought that you have a big ego. :)
- Shuuro
followers are for cults. twitter should change to readers/reading, because at the end of the day this is all about reading
- Jim Posner
Adding my opinion to the rollcall, though I've just realized that i actually have no opinion on this.
- Chris Foley
Clever. :-)
- Patrick Ward
To much noise, the good data is lost.
- Adam Mesenbrink
Yes to much noice. Maybe a way to mark comments as good could be a way to filter the comments.
- Daniel Graversen
Adam, I think that's a limitation with the threaded discussion model of FriendFeed - it becomes very, very difficult to follow a conversation once it goes beyond a hundred or so comments. Of course, Scoble will come up with a search filter which makes it easy in about three comments from now, just to prove I'm wrong... :)
- Ian Betteridge
I didn't realize followers were supposed to do what their followees said. Does that mean I have to open those links to help me make money on twitter? I was just using it for communication. Silly me.
- RobinDotNet
Robin: communication takes someone on the other side listening and talking back.
- Robert Scoble
Useless to YOU, perhaps. I'll bet they are getting value from the info you rpovide. Social media doesn't have to be about communication, it can be about "transmitting information" or some other morer restrcitive definition of what goes on. Some people just like to listen!
- Jim Tierney
Useful post :)
- Krishnamoorthy
Agreed! There are those like me who sit in shadows, read and do not comment... oh wait, crap!
- Danny F Santos
Talking back is definitely good, but I'm still not clicking on those links telling me I can make money on twitter. I do talk back to people (as evidenced here). :-) So you have a lot of followers who don't. Do they even tweet? Can anyone explain why people join twitter and don't tweet?
- RobinDotNet
Jim: I'm not a broadcast, though. Are people who just consume really useful?
- Robert Scoble
And BTW, if you don't realize the value your personal brand gets from having those 48,000 followers whether they reply back or not, you're missing something!
- Jim Tierney
Robin: people are used to consuming info and not talking back. I understand that. Jim: there is some value in having lots of consumers, yes. I just aspire to more.
- Robert Scoble
lucky you that non all of them have an active role in your FF... how can you think of have an interaction wth so many people?
- Paolo Galli
from IM
I think you math is waaaaaaaay off. Looks like somewhere around 0.3125%(300/96,000 - rounding up) of your followers are useful, meaning you should edit your comment to say 99.7% of your followers. Really makes me wonder the true value of twitter if one of the top uses gets this percentage of useful following. The other possibility is that as followers increase, the percentage of attentive/usefull/whatever-you-want-to-call-it decreases.
- Robert D. Fraser
Paolo: I've had interactions with tens of thousands of people here on friendfeed, just not all at the same time. Robert: you're right. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Do you think those non-tweeting-twitterers sit at their desk and read all the tweets coming across? Or are they looking for something specific.
- RobinDotNet
Scoble: You are asking questions and experimenting with stuff that I find interesting. Just reading through this thread provides some interesting insights into users' perspectives on Twitter.
- Matthew Schrock
Is that southeastweb thing from a bot or some kind?
- RobinDotNet
Robin: I think it's a spammer. But at least it's a spammer that follows directions. That said I think I'm going to block it.
- Robert Scoble
Blocked.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble you really can do it? I'm very impressed :) I'm jocking... I think many users on the web just read information but doesn't partecipate... it's to difficult ;)
- Paolo Galli
from IM
97.2% of all statistics are made up.
- Jason A. Nunnelley
Tekany: and the statistics that aren't made up can mislead. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Seeing a spammer blocked just makes me feel warm all over. It's so awesome.
- RobinDotNet
I am exceptionally useless.
- Geoff Schultz
Geoff: that's why I follow you! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Following instructions is way overrated
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
That's what I'll have on my next business card: Scoble found me useful, what about you ?
- Antoine Bertier
RTFM or GTFO said the BOFH.
- Jon Winters
Although at this point I would welcome someone giving me instructions as to the next steps in life - far too many options. Maybe I should crowdsource it, but I am certain not to like the results
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Robert: To be honest, I think sometimes folks are intimidated by the breadth of knowledge that you and others on FF seem to have and your ability to engage in discussions. They may feel that they need to say something 'brilliant' or not say anything. I will admit that that I fell into that category up until recently. To your (and others') credit, once I took the plunge I found that this wasn't the case. You guys still know WAY more than I do, but that's one of the reasons I'm here - to learn!
- Alex Hellstrom
@scobleizer you crack me up sometimes! There, see this post went to you in both places... But I don't really feel like discussing it... ;-P
- Walt Ruppar
Walt: heh.
- Robert Scoble
LOL! Great job of being satirical! You have a lot of great followers. :)
- James Stratford
Just sayin I could follow directions and discuss here if I wanted, but not interested in this discussion. However it did make me laugh that you called 53% of your followers out on not being able to follow directions.
- Walt Ruppar
Alex, uhm like totally and stuff ... and uhm. Ya know. Cool.
- Jason Nunnelley
BTW: where'd you see my reply come in from first? FF or as a mention over on twiiter?
- Walt Ruppar
Walt: here on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you dropped your twitter response button. Makes sense, but was it purely to reduce redundancy?
- Jason Nunnelley
viewing people as "useful" is problematic..useful to who?..tools are "useful'...people not so much...helpful may be a more precise word.
- Jim Posner
Jim, wordsmith!
- Jason Nunnelley
Hi
- Tyler (Chacha)
.LOLz...great thread!
- .LAG liked that
Twitter to me seems a big mess of information, I can't keep up with it! FF sorts the mess out nicely and without the spam. I much prefer FF.
- Matthew Davis
Jim: you're right of course. I was just trying to be an egotistical bbbaaaahhhhssssttttaaaarrrrrdddd to get a conversation going. Jason: what did I drop? I didn't do it on purpose.
- Robert Scoble
Damn it Robert, you got me to make an account here three days ago, what more can I do for you? ;-P
- Shane Trammell
Robert, you are smart
- Arvind
This is an easy way to get rid of bots. They don't have anything intelligent to share (like me)!
- Carlton Prest
WTG sheeple for getting conned into commenting here... wait. um.
- Scott Breakall
Robert, what if people want to reply and be engaging but don't feel like they have anything of value to say / to add to the discussion?
- Wang Yip
Scott: Perhaps, but at least I un-liked it...
- Walt Ruppar
Robert - what is the point of this? I took carrot...
- Liza
Robert, I just put the lime in the coconut. Now what?
- Sue Radd
Robert-Great discussion at 140, BTW. On another topic just watched the Perez Hilton video and trying to get my head around that rant..if you haven't seen it you should watch both sides of the feud with will.i.am. Interesting use of twitter and video to address insult/outrage.
- Jim Posner
Sue, like it.
- Liza
Yahoo Inbox: 178 messages. 132 are notifications of new comments here. Good job. :)
- Tim Young
Ok now I "get" this FriendFeed experience.
- Ron Hudson
lots of people commenting here--I wonder if it has to do with the time of day more than the topic
- Brent R Jones
I have a fear of being useless.
- Ron Wening
I hope I'm not within the 53%
- Michela Cimnaghi /cimny
Twitter rocks, but I'm starting to see more value in FriendFeed
- Adam
I just drove from Pierre SD to Fort Totten ND, so I'm a little bit groggy. What exactly was I supposed to do to pass Robert Scoble's version of a Turing Test? Also, is it really important that people think I'm not a bot? I bet there is still money in AI.
- Matthew McCowan
Is that percentage of useless followers greater or less on Twitter. (I think I can predict your answer!)
- Curt Mercadante
"I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member."
- jacek
This thread is taking me a long time to read when I haven't had coffee yet today.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
So, my understanding is.. one who doesn't give 'directions' to his followers is useless too. Mmhhh! yeah
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Robert - there's nothing egotistical about it! I'd also be remiss if I didn't add that I get plenty of thought-provoking value from you even when in "read-only" mode. Understandably my usefulness to you is nil in those cases. However (and I'm echoing at least one other commenter here: IRONY ALERT) I've found that by the time I comment in this type of thread, my exact thoughts have...
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- Jim Tierney
I just hope Scobleizer never directs me to do something self-destructive. I hate it when that happens.
- DGentry
I don't think lurker are useless :), I don't think number of followers have a great significance, Friendfeed is a Virtual Life Streaming, and in virtual life (as in real life) some people don't have a direction, they live (however i prefer LIVE with all capital letters, and have a direction!!!).
- CantorJF
90% of community members lurk.
- l0ckergn0me
Twitter has become useless for any sort of participation
- Jorge Escobar
here.
- metalerik
Yay for the other 47%.
- Colette
Does this post count as "discussing?"
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
So if we post here, are we teacher's pets? :)
- Daynah
Members of the "TV Generation" are just not used to follow directions... (they sit and consume with chips&beer and maybe do some shopping via telephone - these are a well trained habits and hard to change)...
- Arne Krueger
I thought I'd contribute further to this discussion... you're welcome.
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
I'm jumping up for another cup of tea, be right back...
- Deborah E. Bifulco
There clearly comes a point of scale where FriendFeed fails to delivery clarity...nothing useful on the first screenful or last... does that mean that 47% of your followers are unable to provide significant value?
- David Race
Will there be and end of this direction? Do we want to close directions? I think somewhen even directions become useless
- Vedran Rudelj
delivering significant value to ff and/or the subscribers depends on the roi they get... some people are just not using it - as it is intendet to be used. so what!?
- Arne Krueger
If technology fails you, next time you are in Memphis lets get together for lunch. Great value remains in human contact.
- Jeff Milton
That is priceless
- Keith - @tsudo
I am not a bot, I am huma ... wait, oh yeah, I am a bot .... never mind, back to being useless.
- John
Bots are human too.
- Thom Kennon
Liza: shhhh. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I found this thread useful.
- Mike Nencetti
Love these types of threads - quite enjoyable!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Oh, yeah?
- Baard @ Pixum
O Captain! My Captain!
- Nicola Mattina
Commenting so I'm not included in the useless category... Also, I'd love to chat about this the next time you're around the FF office.
- Ross Miller
There are 3 kinds of people in the world: 1. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he doesn't act like he's too good to talk to us. 2. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he is known to follow everyone back, and therefore he is good for "inflating" their follower count. 3. Those who have no idea why they are following Robert Scoble.
- April Russo (app103)
4th type of person follows for great feeds that generate discussion on FF.
- Mike Nencetti
April, you forgot the fourth category: 4. Those who don't subscribe to Robert Scoble but find far too many of his posts liked and commented by their friends.
- Scott of Two Countries
But the only reason why Robert generates great discussions is because he is part of that discussion. He doesn't just drop & run, or only talk to people he thinks are "somebody", completely ignoring the rest of us. While he may have a big ego, it isn't so big that he thinks he's too good to have a real conversation with us.
- April Russo (app103)
53%? That seems a generous estimate.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Rob: I have almost 42,000 followers here and 96,000 followers on Twitter, which comes out to 43%. Glad someone caught me on my math! :-)
- Robert Scoble
My casual research indicates about 1% will respond.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I can't put my finger on it, but I feel somehow manipulated...?
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
even if they don't respond there is something to be said about passive observing- no?
- michael sean wright
You call this a discussion?
- Phil Boiarski
Phil: this is not a discussion. It's a lot of people following directions. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Hi Robert, nice experiment!
- Luis Enrique León
Aye aye Cap'n Scoble. Sorry I'm late but I just got done eating a plate of waffles in some diner in midtown NYC...
- Aaron Strout
53% of your followers aren't followers in the sheep sense. That's a good thing. Lose the other 47%
- C. K. Sample III
C. K. why must you self loathe on my thread?
- Robert Scoble
I feel kind of funny.
- Mike Nayyar
It's not easy being part of the 47%
- Aidan Mann
I am not a sheep! Oh wait, maybe I am.
- adam garrett
RS - The puppet master : )
- Mark Harai
I feel compelled to comment here... odd
- Jan Ole Peek
Mark: who is the puppet master and who is the puppet? I'm answering you now.
- Robert Scoble
Just following directions. Too many Mark's here though, I wish FF signed thing with our usernames.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
You can change your display name any time by clicking on your name in the top right corner.
- Mark
Robert: communication still occurs when unidirectional, surely the works of Socrates convey concepts to readers even today?
- Mike Chelen
Wow! It wasn't till I finished reading through almost all the comments that I got what Robert was trying to say :) FF good, Twitter bad. But I can't complain since it was Leo Laportes constant references to FF that got me to join and Roberts comments that got me to try and really understand what FF is all about. Initially FF was a little overwhelming and the only reason I've stuck it through so far is because of the higher quality of content for a (mostly) passive FFer.
- Anant Gairola
Writing that last comment took me 10 minutes! Really really wish there was a good FF iPhone application!!!
- Anant Gairola
Anant: the content here keeps getting better as more and more people join (which is quite a few every week lately, my numbers are going up much faster here than on Twitter, the tides are starting to move).
- Robert Scoble
baa baa
- Kim Landwehr
I'm sorry... did you say something?
- Sean
You have no Idea how tempting it is to reshare this - and discuss it over there >>>>>>>>>>
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
No rain, no rainbows..
- BryanSchuetz
FF is the only place I can dip into your content 'at will', Twitter is to noisy and makes me dig a lot further to see the flow of conversation and any associated references.
- Threepwood
I like to lurk most of the time. I usually don't have much to add by the time I am able to read the whole thread.
- Dan Douglass
from Nambu
Better late than never!
- John Rubier
tag
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Testing the maximum for FF comments? :P
- Barbara
Are you happy with how friendfeed is developing? What would you change, if you were in control? I love the daily digests, I prefer something filtering the best content from those I follow
- Ryan Singer
first post... wait.
- Aaron Baer
following........
- sirishkumar
amazing post.
- Guy Vander Heyden
Suivez moi?
- Gordon Joly
Oui, monsieur Gordon ! Où allons nous ?
- Brome
<----- not a bot so what percent does that make me?
- Howell Selburn
from BuddyFeed
bleet bleet
- Sriks7
Master is our friend!
- Rick Cogley
Adding myself to the list :)
- TiTi
Why a follower must follow direction? :)
- Christine Yang
from BuddyFeed
Lead, follow or whatever...Info on Neda http://tinyurl.com/nm9xdn
- JoWazzoo
:)
- Tony
This is a wicked and interesting post on FriendFeed =)
- Qbat
by the way some of my twitter followers complain that, like you, I redirect them to friendfeed on every post there. Some say I have to choose between the two and they will follow me there, but not on both services.
- Kostantinos Koukopoulos
Kostantinos: it's an open question how best to interconnect FF and Twitter. remember that there are a wide range of options, including sending comments or posts, and sending posts automatically or manually. the feedback from readers is helpful if it can be used to find the right balance
- Mike Chelen
53% of your followers will leave you and then what? insult the other 47%. You can't just say it that way. You need to treat your followers with respect. Especially when you are your biggest fan. People will leave you in a heartbeat.
- Jack Scalfani
Be a nice little follower, and drink the damn kool-aid!
- James
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