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No Matter How Hard You Try, It Is Impossible To Fax A Cat #shareit
Olive Fee, anne__bonney, Mouhamadou M CAMARA and 716 other people liked this
LOL!
- Kol Tregaskes
That poor cat looks so confused.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
but it's so warm on top of the scanner!
- DJF
Time for a cat scan!
- Jemm
Iz I the right way up for printing?
- Vicky
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
LOL, Soup!
- Kol Tregaskes
that is one adorable kitten!
- Anna Lynn M.
<3
- Furkan Tunalı
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
Kitty!!!!
- Janice
keep trying!
- Morgan Haley
FEED ME A CAT
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying.
- Steven Perez
Push harder
- Josh Haley
LOL@Jemm
- AJ Batac
آخی
- یک بابک
Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
1 closer....hilarious!
- Jeffrey Marsh
There we go 150 likes. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez....
- Stephanie Segel
I think you mean a LIVE cat…
- Glen Mistletoe
thanks, i needed a laugh
- chaz2b
FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED
- Karl Knechtel
iz dat some copycat?
- bora "head" basman
LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer!
- Threepwood
Just one more like... please. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it's over two huuunddreeeed
- bora "head" basman
MOAR!
- Pat Hawks
I need 9 copies please !
- Faraz Mullick
A cute cat :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Haha, Faráz.
- Kol Tregaskes
Next target, 250 likes. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
اخي...گناهي
- noonii
Friendfeed loev faxcat :o
- Karl Knechtel
;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Pussy by fax. What will they think of next?
- Mattb4rd
X))
- Nia
OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!!
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, this thread is pure genius.
- Alex Scoble
But only almost 50 comments.. :)
- Simon Wicks
Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate!
- Ivan Zuzak
Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there we go then for the 1500+!!
- Jaap Willem
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified...
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy!
- Kol Tregaskes
Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again.
- JSNFLMNG
¡Excelente!
- Marcos Vicente
I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder
- anna sauce
Hehe, Anna. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P
- Richard A.
I'd like again if I could :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
bump
- Simon Wicks
Richard, LOL!
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesomely funny!
- Martha
Next target: 400 likes? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
theres one more for you Kol
- Toby Graham
Toby, you're very kind. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cute *_*
- Sybelle
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
can you spare a cat 6 likes?
- JSNFLMNG
sweet
- Eric Hofmann
Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT.
- Mike Nayyar
Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome.
- Alex Scoble
this is underfaksink at its worzt
- Petr Buben
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
Ah, OK, Petr. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
433 Like ! Wow !
- Like
Freemor, yes very cute! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
cute~
- Chan Pen
that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax.
- Phil Maxwell
oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink
- Petr Buben
Just 5 more likes needed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier.
- Bob Blunk
Fax, Petr. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Ok, over the top now.
- Greg Guitarbuster
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
LOL, Kevin.
- Kol Tregaskes
i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED!
- sofarsoShawn
Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Countdown! 8 more now!
- Mike Nayyar
bump for more likes
- Josh Haley
bump
- Roberto Bonini
One more!! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I took mine away, too much pressure.
- Steve C
Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот
- Парадокс Смейла
пиздец как!
- getalifejerk
Kendra, absolutely. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
wish I could double like!
- metalerik
Wish I could just like it at all. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
But it's a cat being crushed...
- Richard A.
برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟
- H.M.Nasrabadi
Hehe, Richard.
- Kol Tregaskes
copy cat
- gibilix
518 like! most liked post?
- Lu Tao
ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :))
- Arzu
Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
*bump*
- Andre
Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!!
- Kol Tregaskes
So we know how many people use this site.
- Richard A.
So that's what Paws Printing means.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Richard, we getting there. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Jack, hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
this thread is making history.
- vijay
Indeed .. this is a most epic thread
- Mattb4rd
Hehe. 9 more for 550!
- Kol Tregaskes
8...
- sofarsoShawn
7. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this"
- sofarsoShawn
Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get???
- Roberto Bonini
Gosh, no idea.
- Kol Tregaskes
take some bets then come back in a year to check?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
:)
- SokooteDel
Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes!
- Mattb4rd
552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
560!
- sofarsoShawn
And back down to 559. Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo?
- Susan Beebe
I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat!
- Rich
Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
564!
- sofarsoShawn
I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken
- JSNFLMNG
maybe a good way to clone cats :)
- Roberto
Hehe, Roberto.
- Kol Tregaskes
This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!?
- Kol Tregaskes
It could! Keep bumping it up!
- imabonehead
It will :)
- Roberto Bonini
My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun...
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-)
- j1m
No yet. Close though. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Stuck on 581.
- Kol Tregaskes
Most liked FF post ever?
- Kristian Salonen
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
11 more to 600. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟
- Exir
هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D
- Shayan
Hehe, 6 more likes. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600
- Josh Haley
Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it's 598+3, at the moment ;-)
- Andre
There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!!
- Kol Tregaskes
3 people un liked :(
- Roberto Bonini
I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well.
- Kol Tregaskes
too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;)
- JSNFLMNG
Haha, Jason.
- Kol Tregaskes
614!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
Whoa! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)]
- Petr Buben
Petr, who's he?
- Kol Tregaskes
omg, this post passed 600 likes!
- imabonehead
@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there ..
- Petr Buben
I see. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Day 11 and this thing's still going!
- Phil Maxwell
Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-)
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible
- Megan Craig
Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry!
- Jérôme Flipo
Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography?
- sofarsoShawn
Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-)
- sofarsoShawn
this makes me laugh every darn time I see it
- Stephanie_Thankful
Who is this NShawnFW? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
kitties do like to find new spots to nap :)
- Maryam
LOL, now over 650 likes.
- Kol Tregaskes
این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟
- Maryaminaa
Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol?
- Roberto Bonini
Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it will
- Seltoon
what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :)
- Maryaminaa
Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
lol
- Maryaminaa
I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture
- Kevin J Hatton
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE.
- Kris Roley
Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead
- Mattb4rd
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
10 more likes for 700! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
7 more by my count!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy?
- aerobroken
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not so bad huh? \u)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
try harder! ; ))
- Didier Lahely
Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-)
- Rick Cogley
Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday ..
- johnpiercy
Must try this at home!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Bumping some old great posts. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Now THAT is a classic!
- Allan Besselink
you have to flatten it first!!! ;)
- Neda S.
This is very good humor!
- TrafficBug
Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
just a couple thousand to go
- JSNFLMNG
LOL
- Smeerch
__awesome__
- Matteo Scotuzzi
and it got resurrected once again!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy.
- Seth Greenblatt
VIDEO: Mythbusters test golf ball-like dimpling effect on fuel economy (http://www.autoblog.com/2009...)
Ken Morley, Wulffy, Greg Lato and 23 other people liked this
I loved this episode. I was completely shocked it worked and was so wrong on why it worked. My thought was dimples on a golf ball kept it stable in the air, like rifling in a gun barrel. But dimples make a golf ball fly twice a far due to decreased drag caused by the increased turbulence (http://wings.avkids.com/Book...). I guess this is another example where introducing noise makes things work better. The Mythbusters tested if this approach would work on a car. It did! There was an 11% increase in gas mileage when driving the dimpled car. Now I'm assuming car engineers know this and haven't designed a car like this because they test marketed the idea in a mall somewhere and people hated it. Time to change. I think this kind of car would be a counter cultural badge of honor and would really be popular, especially in the younger demo.
- Todd Hoff
Apparently hexagons result in a lower drag than the even round dimples, that would be cool to try.
- Todd Hoff
dimples are awesome, no matter where they might appear.
- Morgan Haley
Cool, but I'd hate to have to wash and wax that. :)
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
time to try this on aircraft.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Experimental aircraft that have been declassified recently have a similar less indented pattern. I used to think it was only for radar evasion ?
- Eric Logan
Cool Eric.
- Todd Hoff
This is really awesome
- Chieze Okoye
The Ford Fugly. The Dodge Dimple. The GMC Acne. The Pontiac Pit. The Chrysler Crater.
- Josh Haley
In Praise of Silence - http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
Brian, Felicia Yue, azalea and 39 other people liked this
"Twitter, Facebook and cell phones didn't create this desire or problem. I've known people all my life who turned the television on as soon as they woke up in the morning and left it on until they went to bed at night, just to insure there was never complete silence in the house. All that the new connectivity, on-line virtual game options, and instant messaging do is make it easier to avoid the awful specter of silent, alone time. And yet ... just try to imagine Henry David Thoreau writing his masterpiece about Walden Pond while twittering, texting, and watching CNN. ... And yet ... there's a unique kind of strength that comes from simply sitting in companionship with yourself and listening for what your heart or the world might tell you. Or allowing thoughts or events to percolate slowly against counter-thoughts, opinions, or trends. My best ideas don't occur to me when I'm feverishly involved in churning out words. They come when I give my mind permission to listen instead of talk. To just be for a while. Undistracted. Undisturbed. And sometimes not even consciously focused on the problem at hand. "
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Sometimes a person can be so lonely and sad, and silence only magnifies the thing that's so hard to face - you are alone. Turning on the TV is a temporary respite from this burden and safer than alcohol or sleeping pills.
- Daisy
In my experience, the best ideas come when I'm in the shower. (And never a pen and paper around.)
- Peter
I push one high-frequency poster from my home feed into the void, and up bubbles this wonderful little piece which for 11 hours lived somewhere in limbo beyond the margin of the page. Wonders! That said, remember where you've read it first: "in the future the most luxurious commodity will be the silence." Silence as in "silent as a dead brick," not "silent in general." You've read it »HERE«.
- ianf ⌘
I swam the length of Walden Pond yesterday in silence, and, yes, it was a much more satisfying experience than participating in social media, and one more conducive to creative thinking.
- Sean McBride
Hm, I do have Walden here at my computer as audiobook. Maybe I should change FF some time for the 'silence' of Thoreau...
- Ton Zijp
I ran off to the wilderness with a satchel of books. It worked for two months and then I longed for the spontaneous collaboration that FF is trying to optimize. Will a mobile device/cloud network revolution now allow me to leave Silicon Valley and head back to the woods? Not permanently, life is about balance.
- Lane Rapp
Being alone is overrated. I like to watch TV with the sound off to give my eyes something to look at while I'm thinking.
- Gabe
Justin Korn to DSLR, Photography United, SF Bay Area Photographers, Photography Tips, Tricks, and Know-How
iPhone App from onOne - DSLR Remote Controls your Canon Camera Wirelessly - http://www.ononesoftware.com/blog... (via http://friendfeed.com/justink...)
Sinan Yüzaklı, Jessica Lee, Kevin C. Tofel and 3 other people liked this
Police delete London tourists' photos 'to prevent terrorism' | UK news | guardian.co.uk - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk...
Baard @ Pixum, Paulo Gomes, flaimo and 26 other people liked this
"But the tourists have said they had to return home to Vienna without their holiday pictures after two policemen forced them to delete the photographs from their cameras in the name of preventing terrorism. Matkza, a 69-year-old retired television cameraman with a taste for modern architecture, was told that photographing anything to do with transport was "strictly forbidden". The policemen also recorded the pair's details, including passport numbers and hotel addresses. In a letter in today's Guardian, Matzka wrote: "I understand the need for some sensitivity in an era of terrorism, but isn't it naive to think terrorism can be prevented by terrorising tourists?" The Metropolitan police said it was investigating the allegations. In a telephone interview from his home in Vienna, Matka said: "I've never had these experiences anywhere, never in the world, not even in Communist countries.""
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
^ The last quote is saddening.
- Jérôme Flipo
I agree that this is really sad. Is there any justification for the extreme steps the U.K. seems to be taking, or is it just paranoia?
- Stan Scott
Every story like this makes me NOT look forward to fall trip I am planning to London...since photography is key to any trip I take, might have to consider other destinations.
- Greg Lato
I've never been a victim of this over-zealous approach by the police but because of the horror stories you do hear I have come up with a plan should it ever happen to me: when the police invent their own version of the law I'm going to ask them to state clearly which law they're upholding for the hidden film crew (give thumbs up and wink into the distance, at a van, a window, etc.) and get them to choose whether they want their faces blurred for the programme when it's aired.
- Mark H
WHAAA???? omg FAIL
- Susan Beebe
dis-like
- Ozgur Poyrazoglu
This is going the wrong the way
- Martin Liechti
Yeah, I think the UK is much worse than the rest of the world right now for photographer's rights. It's sad. Fortunately I'm not planning on heading over there anytime soon.
- Thomas Hawk
Wonder what the police will do when every camera is internet connected and offloads the photos to a distant website automatically.
- Joakim Erdfelt
I'm very optimistic by nature, about both technology and governmental actions. However, I'm very concerned for the UK. Last semester, I lived in Islington - London - where I couldn't spend a day without being watched by a "CCTV Mobile Enforcement Vehicle". They're cute and tiny, but they look really frightening when parked in the dark (http://www.flickr.com/photos...,...
more...
- Jérôme Flipo
@ Joakim good point
- Martin Liechti
from Nambu
Exactly: "Memory card? What memory card?"
- Tristan Seligmann
To be fair ... Yet another isolated incident. Neither side knew their rights which is a shame. Don't let it put you off shooting our fine city!
- Phill Price
Rare photos of SF's 1906 Earthquake - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
Beau Liening, Bluesun 2600, Mrsth and 27 other people liked this
"Rare photos of S.F.'s 1906 disaster Crowds at Alamo Square watched as huge fires destroyed downtown San Francisco on April 18. The row of Victorians on the left are the famous "Painted Ladies" that grace Alamo Square to this day. (John Henry Mentz / SFMTA)"
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Cool pics. Tomorrow at 5:10am is the anniversary of the quake. Are there any events going on?
- Jeremy Brooks
I am driving across the San Andreas today twice. Hope it stays quiet. :-)
- Robert Scoble
San Andreas is all talk and no action lately. :-)
- Jeremy Brooks
NYPD Issues “Photography is Not a Crime” Reminder Order to Cops - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Carlos M. Gomes, Bill Sodeman, Gary Thom and 54 other people liked this
“Faced with complaints from photographers and tourists alike, the NYPD has issued a department order reminding cops that the right to take pictures in the Big Apple is as American as apple pie. “Photography and the videotaping of public places, buildings and structures are common activities within New York City . . . and is rarely unlawful,” the NYPD operations order begins. It acknowledges that the city is a terrorist target, but since it’s a prominent “tourist destination, practically all such photography will have no connection to terrorism or unlawful conduct.”
- Thomas Hawk
eventually....but they also need to pass the order down to the security guys who take care of these old buildings... remember the MOSS situtation in CA ?
- Peter Dawson
They need to get this message across to the over-officious bunch over this side of the pond too.
- Mark H
The security guards will soon get the message when they try to 'call the cops' to back them up on their bullying tactics and get told it is not a crime... or am I just looking through rosey glasses ;)
- Travis Koger
yeah, my own experience has mostly been that the security guards are generally speaking a lot worse than the cops. Hopefully the security guard problem can be addressed in time as well.
- Thomas Hawk
I wish more cities would issue this sort of reminder! Good for NY - hopefully this will eventually trickle down to other cities and security personnel.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Amazing! Great.
- Evan Travers
It's amazing when protest and complaints actually work. Great news!
- Blake Caldwell
I've been accosted in the Washington DC Metro for taking photos. Curiously, I was only asked to leave...never to delete what I had taken.
- Ryan Kaisoglus
Apple initiates countdown for a billion Apps download - http://startupmeme.com/apple-i...
Greg Lato, fijidaddy, Roberto Bonini and 12 other people liked this
woot! :)
- vijay
Free entry form at http://www.apple.com/itunes...
- Bill Sodeman
Yes, if only it worked... "Application: MZFinance Error: com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOGeneralAdaptorException: EvaluateExpression failed: (province), 7:(state), 8:40000000005730(id), 9:..."
- Jules
I've noticed that the free entry form fails after 2 or 3 attempts.
- Bill Sodeman
They are sell 2-3 million a day. Seems like it may be a few weeks till they hit a billion
- Ardith
I never like those counter pages - they're never connected to a real DB of that stuff.
- alphaxion
Photos: Bring Your Own Big Wheel 2009 - http://laughingsquid.com/photos-...
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Senator Specter Introduces "Flat Tax Act of 2009" - http://accounting.smartpros.com/x66084...
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"Mar 31, 2009 (Congressional Documents and Publications/ContentWorks via COMTEX) (Content Works) -- Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) today introduced legislation that would scrap the 17,000 pages of current IRS code in favor of a 20 percent flat tax for all individuals and businesses. The revenue-neutral legislation would allow tax-payers to file returns on a postcard that could be completed in 15 minutes."
- Thomas Hawk
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If only it had a chance of passing
- Robert Hafer
Monumentally bad idea. The lower wage earner would never be able to afford it.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
most flat tax plans exempt everyone who makes less than $30,000/yr.
- Robert Hafer
My guess is the CPA lobbyists would never let this happen. Just think how many tax attorneys and accountants would be out of a job.
- gfurry
Great idea, too bad special interests won't ever let it happen...unless enough of the public gets behind it..
- Greg Lato
It would gut government which I think is the point. You'd never be able to bring in the current level of revenues with a flat tax. It's just more Republican hijinks to screw the poor and middle class while giving the wealthy whatever they want.
- Alex Scoble
a plan that simple makes it very hard to hide things. No chance of passing.
- Matthew DeVries
20% of what is always the question. The complication in the tax code is defining income, not from the brackets. This is a dumb law. It encourages services over manufacturing. If a manufacturing company pays 20% tax on $100,000 worth of income when their expenses were $80,000 they are actually losing money. Deciding what is deductable is where the real complexity is.
- Todd Hoff
@Alex, If it cuts the government would we still need as much revenue?
- gfurry
gfurry - the trick is keeping the government services (I think, I'm mostly republican so I don't really like government services) while cutting out the people who exist simply to move paper around due to the complexity of the current system.
- Matthew DeVries
A horrible idea. The middle and lower classes would never be able to afford it. The main sources of revenue for the upper class are not even taxed, how is that flat or fair? It is one of the worst tax simplification ideas ever. Seriously, who spends 34 hours preparing their taxes? I think mine took less than hour this year.
- Ryan Cummins
If it guts government significantly we'll all need to buy offroad vehicles and forget about most Americans retiring or having affordable healthcare. Defense? What defense? Let the rest of the world defend themselves.
- Alex Scoble
I agree. The government should be run just like any other business. I live in Indiana and the governor here got a lot of flack for bringing in his people and changing the DMV. It used to be awful. Now it is great. You can even schedule appointments online. I would re-elect him just on that. :-)
- gfurry
It would certainly save a lot of money by reducing the size of the IRS. Individuals would also save a lot of money by not having to pay a professional accountant to prepare their returns.
- Thomas Hawk
What we really ought to be looking at is the Fair Tax, and not the Flat Tax. Check out FairTax.org if you haven't before...
- Jason Nielubowicz
Combine a 20% flat tax on income with a 90% estate tax on estates over $5 million and you've got the winning combination.
- Thomas Hawk
It wouldn't matter so much if the rich paid less taxes while they were alive as long as you got it at some point before they died. Agree that anyone making less than $30,000 ought to be exempt from paying taxes entirely.
- Thomas Hawk
That's a good point Ryan. It creates two classes of people, wage earners pay more. It makes IRAs unnecessary. And it penalizes taxes at the state level since those are not deductible.
- Todd Hoff
@Jason: I like the premise of the fair tax, I have to have a harder look though. What I do know is that flat tax = FAIL.
- grant fox
Thomas there are no death taxes in this setup. This is class warfare under the color of fairness and simplicity.
- Todd Hoff
@Thomas: in theory that's a good idea; in practice, I fear that many would find a loophole to ensure that their reported income doesn't exceed $30K.
- grant fox
@Grant: Give one of the books a read if you have the time, they read pretty fast.
- Jason Nielubowicz
Earth Hour 2009 - The Big Picture - Boston.com - http://www.boston.com/bigpict...
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click on the photos to see before and after photos of iconic world locations before and after Earth Hour.
- Thomas Hawk
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Interesting to see how much ambient lighting there still exists even when a large light source is turned off. Reminds me of the Lights Out SF event from 2007: http://www.latogaphoto.com/2007...
- Greg Lato
does anyone have useful data? Like how much power was saved? Personally I don't care what the event LOOKED like... i thought this was about power savings and reducing consumption?
- Glenn Batuyong
Mass Hysteria Over AIG Obscures Simple Truths: Michael Lewis - Bloomberg.com - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps...
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"From this episode we can observe several general truths about the financial crisis, and the attempt to end it: 1) To the political process all big numbers look alike; above a certain number the money becomes purely symbolic. The general public has no ability to feel the relative weight of 173 billion and 165 million. You can generate as much political action and public anger over millions as you can over billions. Maybe more: the larger the number the more abstract it becomes and, therefore, the easier to ignore. (The trillions we owe foreigners, for example.) 2) As the financial crisis has evolved its moral has been simplified, grotesquely. In the beginning this crisis was messy. Wall Street financiers behaved horribly but so did ordinary Americans. Millions of people borrowed money they shouldn’t have borrowed and, not, typically, because they were duped or defrauded but because they were covetous and greedy: they wanted to own stuff they hadn’t earned the right to buy."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I constantly find myself wishing my initial reaction to stuff was more rational. $165million is a drop in the bucket compared to the $173billion, so of course it's silly to get all upset about the cost of the bonuses to the taxpayers. However... I the outrage isn't about wasting money, it's about handing insane amounts of money to these people that are partially to blame for this mess. The anger isn't about dollars, it's about rewarding the people who ran the companies into the ground. I'm mad about that
- Blake Caldwell
If their contracts were structured in such a way as they are entitled to the bonuses, they should get them.
- Ian Betteridge
Ian - well, yeah. As much as I'd love them to be taxed at 90%, I have to oppose it because it seems unconstitutional. I didn't like the stuff Bush did because it was unconstitutional, I have to stay consistent and oppose stuff I'd like too. I agree with your use of 'should' as far as legality goes, but not in terms of what's deserved to these people. The deal should have been structured such that the company is now bankrupt and starting over, nullifying bonuses they wouldn't be able to afford while bankrupt
- Blake Caldwell
Words to remember: "Millions of people borrowed money they shouldn’t have borrowed and, not, typically, because they were duped or defrauded but because they were covetous and greedy: they wanted to own stuff they hadn’t earned the right to buy".
- Russellreno
Blake - Yes, that's my reasoning too. I'm not saying they deserve the money - and without knowing each individual case, who can tell? Maybe one guy's trading made big, real profits. Should that guy get his bonus? You don't, and shouldn't, measure the performance of an individual soley by the performance of the whole company.
- Ian Betteridge
The anger over the bonuses is being ginned up by the Government. Congress knew about the bonuses months ago. They will use their false outrage to push more bad laws upon us.
- Robert Hafer
Yes there has been greed on both sides. But you are dealing with a system that rewards greed, massively. A system that tempts those whom we would point the finger at and say:"You will work the same amount of hours I do, get just as exhausted, face the same hardships and difficulties (and perhaps more) and get paid less than I do because I think I am worth more than you. You will do it more ethically than I and always spend money more frugally than I. Why? Because I can make you."
- Melanie Reed
That is capitalism as it is practiced today in a nutshell. What person who is put on the lower financial rung wouldn't go for that?!
- Melanie Reed
very good points in the article
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Maybe the issue is semantics. To me, a 'bonus' is, if the company does well, you do too. A token of appreciation for a job well done. If the company is not doing well, then there are no bonuses. If a company is getting subsidized by the government because it is failing horribly, then there CERTAINLY are no bonuses. If AIG is contractually obligated to pay a bonus, it isn't a bonus. It...
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San Francisco Beach Art Time-Lapse - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Nice place to hang out at during a gorgeous day in the Bay Area. Was this for some event or just a happy coincidence?
- Greg Lato
Monterey Bay sea otter finds video camera, turns tables on photographer - Inside Bay Area - http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland...
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"But on Feb. 3, the San Francisco-based freelancer found himself on the other end of the lens -— with an otter apparently looking at the photographers through a video camera viewfinder. Aguirre was on Capt. Yohn Gideon's Elkhorn Slough Safari boat with several other professional photographers when the group spotted an otter in the distance. Gideon steered closer as Aguirre framed the shot. Then, Aguirre noticed something odd. "I was like, did I actually see an otter with a video camera or was I hallucinating?" he said. The screen on Aguirre's digital camera soon confirmed what he'd seen: an otter floating on its back, video camera grasped in its paws, lens aimed at the boat of excited photographers. The humans had a bad angle, but Aguirre managed to snap a single clear shot before the otter dived, video camera in tow."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Excellent shot! Has the otter uploaded the video somewhere?
- Peter van Teeseling
Someone should get that otter a FriendFeed account.
- Thomas Hawk
Jim Goldstein was the photographer who put together the photo trip when this occurred. He posted about this right after the event: http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog...
- Greg Lato
Thanks for the reference Greg. Actually there is another photographer who got the photo and his series as I've seen it is far clearer than Enrique's. The otter was holding her pup as well (not seen behind the video camera) in Enrique's photo. Sea Otters sure are amazing and entertaining creatures.
- Jim Goldstein
Someone get that otter a Vimeo account!
- Thomas Hawk
Too bad we won't know if the camera is actually working. LOL!
- Meema Esguerra
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Should You Give Away Your Photos For Nothing To People Who Can Pay? - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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...nice post Thomas.
- JA Castillo
Good read TH ... I will post this in my Flickr Group and get some reaction .
- johnpiercy
I always say to the person " Why dont you take the photo then "
- johnpiercy
Hearing GQ say: " Generally, I would never ask for something for nothing. However, at this time we are only able to give credit. If that is okay with you and we can have permission to use one of your images, it would be greatly appreciated." Just doesn't sound right to me.
- Thomas Hawk
@TH - yeah, that didn't sit right with me either.
- JA Castillo
Be different if the guy said . here is a years subscription to GQ .. or give you a Steak House Coupon ... your photography is too marketable to be given away ... then next time he comes , he will ask for free again ...
- johnpiercy
I used to 'sell' photos to glossy fashion mags - Glamour was one - for $50, which didn't cover film and processing. I did get to say from that moment 'photographer published in Glamour,' ditto for Rolling Stone, Newsweek etc. That really helped my rep, made other editors comfortable with the idea of giving me work or publishing my submissions. It's always a calculus - bucks vs. glory - but editorial work is a (usually) big feather in one's cap.
- Chris Gulker
"One thing that does bother me a bit though is when companies that clearly can pay, ask for your images for free. They certainly are free to ask, but generally I say no to these people and it does rub me a bit the wrong way seeing large profitable corporations trying to get something off the backs of a community like Flickr for free."
- Clare Dibble
Chris, even $50 is something. Another photographer Jon Bauer even just asked them for a one year's subscription to GQ and they turned him down. That's just plain cheap. Popular Photoography is publishing one of my photos in their March issue. I'll get $250. GQ can and should do better than this.
- Thomas Hawk
It does seem like a change in the times where all users want content for free (movies, music, tv) and are getting less willing to pay for it. While the corporations are desperate to secure themselves from giving away content for "free", are the first in line to get creative content for free. Ironic, no?
- Chaz Carlson
This is the very same reason my pics are NC. (They're ND as well, but that's because if people want to change things about them, I'd at least like to know in advance. It's unlikely I'd say no, however.)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Agree that those b-----rds should pay, but they know we live in a world where photo supply far outstrips demand from (paying) publishers. One way to turn this to your advantage is to use it as a way to establish a relationship with the editor in question... this time a freebie (and a kudo for the resume) next time could be better.
- Chris Gulker
I've enjoyed following you now for over 3 years. You are very generous with your time and photography. I too would expect GQ could and would do better.
- Russellreno
It really depends on who is asking and why they wanna use it and where. Usually I let people use my photos if they give me the credit about it. In the future if I would try to make a living with it, then it would be different and I should need to think twice. All depends on everything.. once again :)
- Nia
@Chris, that is the worst thing you can do! Once you give them something for free or cheap, they will expect it next time as well. If there is a next time.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I enjoy your photography Thomas, and I think you are very generous with your photography. GQ should be ashamed of themselves! Question for you though, what do you do with people who just help themselves to your photos without even asking? I have had several competing shops "lift" my photos off of a web site I do for a store. In one case they were apologetic and removed them immediately. In another case, I got an attitude and was told I took myself and my photos too seriously. Really frosted me!
- Laura Zickus
I agree entirely and exactly. Also, what I find even more annoying is when you respond to them and as soon as they work out they're not going to get it for nothing, they don't even reply. One example is Eurostar.
- Matt Jones
Laura depends on the use. All personal and non commercial use of my images of course fall within the license I've chosen. Where I've seen commercial use that I didn't like (like a guy who was selling "exclusive" Thomas Hawk large format prints) out of Israel I emailed and he removed my stuff. If a company with big pockets did it though you might have a case. I haven't run into that yet.
- Thomas Hawk
All my photos are public domain. You can use them for any reason without giving me credit. Even for things I find repugnant.
- Robert Scoble
I just remarked all my photos on flickr to Attributive-No Derivitive after reading your post. I've been a supporter of CC but a lot of my photos were copyrighted. Now, I don't feel like a hypocrite. :)
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I completely agree with you. If they have the means to pay, they should. Non-profits and personal use is perfectly fine in my eyes. I like to get a credit, but I'm not going to be a bastard about it. GQ have a right bloody nerve begging for freebies. Pay the going rate, or ask someone stupider (or richer).
- Chris Nixon
Nia- If you have even the slightest thought of selling your photos in the future, why would you give them away free now? I would think by doing that you would hurt your chances for payment in the future. Copyright laws are in place to protect, so I don't see why any artist would not use that to their (and the creative community's) best interest. At the very least, arrange a barter...something other than cash. Even in the case of non-profits, they need to see the value in our work.
- Jess
Personally I'm fine giving non-profits my work. I contribute my dollars to non-profits, why not my photos? I think many of the non-profits that have used my own work have been very grateful. I had a hospital in NY city once that used one of my images for a collage in their children's cancer wing that even sent me a letter documenting my photo as a tax deductible donation.
- Thomas Hawk
I had a graphics house wanting to use a Flickr available picture on some sort of material they were producing for a funeral home. Sent them an email allowing it with no strings(I thought). They sent a Word document release form telling me to print it, sign it and mail it them (at my expense). Some people aren't happy with free -- they want you to pay for them to use your pictures.
- Brian Sullivan
Well said Thomas
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Well the tax deduction is the barter because they placed value on your work. What would you do if a nonprofit saw one of your images, then asked you to retake the shot w/specific changes? Would you agree? Still do for free?
- Jess
Yes you should.
- Rutger Blom
Scoble, you may consider your photos public domain, but at least on Flickr non of them are. Flickr doesn't allow public domain. Your photos are licensed creative commons on Flickr which isn't exactly the same thing. You have attributed for instance in order to use it. It would be nice to see flickr actually offer a public domain so that you could make that choice if you wanted.
- Thomas Hawk
Jess, if a non-profit asked me to go retake an image for them I'd probably have to consider how I felt about that particular non profit and if I wanted to go back and shoot whatever I did. If it was something like well the next time youre there we'd love to shoot it this way, I might for them. On the other hand I'd probably not make a special trip or go out of my way unless I really liked the charity.
- Thomas Hawk
What I've done so far it pick out the photos I feel are my better shots and slap my copyright on them. For the lesser pictures I'm happy for them to be used. A lot of the time people tend to ask to use any of the photos anyway and link back.
- Kol Tregaskes
I think you put it well, Thomas, about "feeling it out." Some of us want ink more than money, and there are certain magazines I'd charge $0 to, even if I had direct costs, just to get into the pub. (What Chris Gulker said)
- Anthony Citrano
A Humerous Take on Photographer Harassment From the Colbert Report - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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New Law in the UK May Make it Illegal to Photograph the Police After February 16th - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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There should be an angry emoticon, the smiling face does not express what I feel about this
- M F
from Paul's post here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Thomas Hawk
It's nice to see the UK becoming a police state, too. (not really, just being bitter).
- Jason Shultz
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ridiculous
- MikeAmundsen
This makes me so angry! With this and all the other erosion of civil liberties in the UK clearly the Muslim extremists have won the 'war on terror'.
- Mel Buckpitt
Well this isn't right.
- Michael Forian
I loved London but with all this crap, I wouldn't want to live there.
- Juan Pablo González
Considering they randomly stop and searched me under the same act, because I didnt look scared of a man with a semi automatic.. It doesnt suprise me.
- Mark
somehow 'liked' is not an accurate way of stating my opinion on this subject...if this happens it will be a sad day for the UK.
- Greg Lato
It reminds me of another system where it was forbidden to take photos of the police. The UK labeled it a "communist dictatorship" - I don't see the UK down the road toward communism....
- Roland Hesz
So who's going to be monitoring the police? MI5?
- sofarsoShawn
I think this is not as bad as people are making it sound. As I commented on Paul's post (see: http://friendfeed.com/e...) Parliament has modified the bill and also seems to have gone the extra mile (err, kilometer) to clarify that the bill cannot punish people who do not have demonstrable terrorist intent. I'll post a quote below.
- Anthony Citrano
From the UK Parliament site (http://services.parliament.uk/bills...) one should read the final bill as "Royally Assented" (the last version.) The language is different. Also, this quote from the House of Lords Committee report on the bill: "For the offence to be committed, [the] information obtained, published or communicated would have to be such as to raise...
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- Anthony Citrano
I think I may want to carry a copy of this around with me. Just in case. Especially sobering is the fact that its an amendment to the Terrorisim Act 2000.
- Roberto Bonini
The thing is, all of the anti terrorism laws have been abused for things totally out of the realm of terrorism. This law makes it very easy to shut down anyone trying to get evidence of police abuse of powers or brutality. Our government needs to learn a very important word - transparency!
- alphaxion
I do agree with you guys that it's a concern, I was just saying the intent of the Parliament is not what it's made out to be. Having said all that, i don't see why we (US, UK, wherever) need more laws.
- Anthony Citrano
How the English could give away their personal freedoms so easily is beyond me-first it's the CCTV capital of the world, then it was Habeus Corpus and now this, all in the name of terrorism! British MP's should be ashamed at being so hoodwinked by this insidious legislation which is just re-enforcing what has become a police state.
- Jack Sagel
Horrible, but not at all surprising. Even before the rise of the “war on terror” Britain has been walking down the path toward becoming a tightly controlled police state. This is just another step that the UK government is taking toward its fascist future.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Wordle Comparing President Obama’s Inagural Address With President Bush’s Farewell Speech - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Dang, that was FAST.
- Lindsay
...mine looks better on a black background (http://bit.ly/4f8cAD). ;)
- JA Castillo
Nice! I wonder how Obama's and Bush's inaugural addresses would compare. ROTFL! Bush's 2005 inaugural speech has been removed from whitehouse.gov, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news...
- Shane
I wonder if the Bush staff removed all the H.'s from the computer keyboards at the White House.
- Thomas Hawk
@TH - I was thinking it would be the "O" keys. :)
- JA Castillo
Bush's Wordle 2005 inaugural speech - http://flickr.com/photos... Sorry, no photoshop skills to merge Obama's and Bush's speeches!
- Shane
RWW has gone all out. Word Cloud Analysis of Obama's Inaugural Speech Compared to Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Lincoln's http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Shane
nice job by Marshall. I especially liked the Lincoln comparisons.
- Thomas Hawk
The argument FOR private clouds - http://news.cnet.com/8301-19...
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@whatsnext: OK, one more politics one. Turn off the sound on your TV. Look at how they look. Forget everything you know. McCain + Palin FTW
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I dunno - when I look at Mc/P, I think "creepy old guy and hot mom - he'll probably croak 2 yrs in" If the thought experiment means I don't get to factor in her radical views, I think I'm still a little unsure.
- Rick Castello
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Rick: Being unsure is probably something you've become accustomed with, yes?
- eggsy
Credit Card Companies Gagged Mythbusters Over RFID Vulnerabilities? - http://techdirt.com/article...
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Antarctica’s Spellbinding Stripy Icebergs - http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/ecology...
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From Environmental Graffitti: "Antarctica is the coldest and most barren continent on the face of the Earth, with spine chilling temperatures as low as -130°F (-90°C) in the winter. There is next to no vegetation, no permanent population and not a hotel in sight yet people still flock to the area in their droves to get a glimpse of the abundant wildlife and marine life, and these floating beauties: icebergs."
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
Wow. Aquafresh has some good branding!
- Louis Gray
Mother Nature never ceases to amaze!
- Greg Lato
ABC News: ABC Reporter Arrested in Denver Taking Pictures of Senators, Big Donors - http://thomashawk.com/2008...
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definitely watch the video on this one: http://abcnews.go.com/video...
- Thomas Hawk
I love the fat cigar that one cop is smoking, "You're under arrest buster"
- Rafael Robayna
I'm going to try and call the Denver PD later this morning and see if I can get a copy of the police report. Somehow I think they are going to make this one difficult to get your hands on.
- Thomas Hawk
Hope you get it Thomas.
- Roberto Bonini
That's pretty amazing. Reading the article at ABC news the cop was saying that the sidewalk was private hotel property. Anyway, it'll be interesting to watch what happens with this because I have to believe a high-profile ABC producer is exactly the type of person you don't want to force a civil liberties violation on. What the hell is a cop doing smoking a cigar in public anyway....he might as well be eating a donut on that video.
- Todd
If you're unclear how the world works right now, this image should clear things up. http://66.92.94.107/misc...
- stretta
from twhirl
Haven't you heard? George W. Bush repealed the 1st Amendment.
- TranceMist
Now would be a great time to go off on an (irrelevant) anti-democrat rant, but police jackassery like this knows now political party bounds.
- Dave Roth
At this point the ball is in ABC and Eslocker’s court. This case differs from many similar cases in that they have the money and all the resources (film, audio, witnesses, etc.) necessary to take on the City of Denver and the police involved. I would interpret any failure on their part to pursue this matter as either they don’t have the facts and law on their side or that they lack moral courage.
- Robert Banghart
yeah its pretty wacky.. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Peter Dawson
Ok, I've had to put about 6 calls into the Denver PD and the best I can get is a message to have someone call me back. I'm going to stay on them today until I see if I can get a copy of this police report. Will try them back in an hour. Police reports are public records and the report over this incident ought to be made available to the public.
- Thomas Hawk
Keep trying, Thomas.
- Roberto Bonini
Ok, just spoke with Mary Dulacki at the Denver Sheriff's Department. There was a Sherriff involved in the incident as well. She is aware of the incident, asked me to put a request for their report in in writing via email but said that she does not think she will be able to get the report turned around for me today. I'm going to keep trying until I either get shut down or get a copy of one of these police reports.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, I'm glad you're all over this. The tape looks outrageous and it sure appears the cops were abusive. My only concern is what we didn't see in the video. I'd be disappointed if it turned out the crew really *was* misbehaving, or that some obscure and possibly unconstitutional local ordinance actually defines a zone around a door as private property. What a mess.
- Chris Baskind
Thomas, I have been trying for about an hour and can get no answer either. The best I've gotten is a few messages into the civil liabilities bureau, but I will keep trying as well.
- Aaron Krug
Obviously the police officers are going to try and put their spin on this thing after the fact. They were stupid and probably had no idea who this guy even was. Looking forward to reading and reporting on those reports when I can get them. The point is though that they shouldn't be treating *anyone* like that. Even if they are a reporter. Police are given extraordinary power of authority. They should suffer large repercussions when they abuse that authority.
- Thomas Hawk
When this stuff happens with cameras around, you know much worse is happening elsewhere. Such arrogance. This is the new America.
- Chris Baskind
Link to use written request for police report: http://www.denvergov.org/Police...
- Aaron Krug
Just got this email back from the Denver Sheriff's Department: Tom- There is no "report" per se in this incident. Asa Eslocker was charged with interference with a police officer, trespass and failure to obey a lawful order on a GSS&C (General Sessions Summons and Complaint). On a GSS&C, the officer writes notes on the summons itself which is filed with the Denver County Court. To get a copy of the notes, you need to go to Denver County Court.
- Thomas Hawk
I'll try the Denver County Court next and will keep working on trying to obtain an incident report from the Denver PD.
- Thomas Hawk
Also interesting in that video is the police telling the camera guy to shut it off. Fortunately, the camera guy knew that he was under to legal obligation to do that.
- Dave Roth
Another update, this time from the hotel: http://www.windsofchange.net/archive...
- Thomas Hawk
Seems as though we do not have the full story. The comment from the Hotel adds a new twist to this incident. If what the Hotel says is true, it seems as though the police did have a right to ask the ABC crew not block an entrance to a building. Apparently they were asked to move several times and didn't. What we saw on the video was only the tail end of the entire incident. While I do...
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- Jeff P. Henderson
Vincient: The incident or the statement?
- Roberto Bonini
I find it dubious that a camera crew could literally *block* a hotel's entrance to the point that guests could not get out. It was likely 3 or 4 people at most and certainly guests could walk around them. There is nothing illegal about filming a hotel's entrance. Even if this was the case the cop could have moved him up the sidewalk, not out into the street. I'm not buying the hotel's explanation.
- Thomas Hawk
have to check this out when I'm home.
- Todd Jordan
The Denver Sheriff's Department just told me that they don't have the name of the arresting officer. Still working with Devner PD to hopefully obtain that and a full police report.
- Thomas Hawk
As a friend of mine said today when he heard the news, "There goes hope."
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
By "block people" they mean "allow higher-level lobbyists and congresscritters from being shown on air". I mean, in my less cynical days, if.. for example... Nancy Pelosi told me to kick an ABC camera crew out, I'd do it.
- Wirehead
I'm much more cynical now, of course. :D
- Wirehead
Some more info over here as well: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Anthony Citrano
Wirehead, you make such a great point. I don't want to get into details here (not enough room,) but when I was in college I worked for a major political candidate. I was asked to do something (remove someone, basically) at a political event that I'd never do today. I was immediately shamed for it by a senior member of the staff .. but I was a kid, and was just doing what a campaign staffer told me to. I regret it to this day (and fear the video will show up eventually, haha...)
- Anthony Citrano
Since none us were there, and the definition of 'block' is rather ambiguous, it seems like we ought not to jump to too many conclusions about the cause of the incident until we have more info. The improper treatment of Asa at the end of the incident seems a bit clearer in my mind.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'll translate. "illegal to block entrance" = selectively and ruthlessly enforce a hyper-literal interpretation in order to shield political big wigs and their sponsors from public scrutiny.
- stretta
It would be nice to have seen video of when the hotel asked them to not block the doors; the sidewalk was big enough that the cameras would have had to been standing in front of the door to have been blocking the hotel entrance. Interesting that DPD only arrested Reporter and not camera person...
- Greg Lato
PR Director for Brown Palace Hotel in Denver: Shannon Dexheimer Public Relations Manager sdexheimer@brownpalace.com (303) 312-5921
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
@Greg, my guess is that Asa was the vocal one and the cops needed a person to make an example out of, so they picked him. Which leads me to believe that the crime was not as serious as the charges. If the whole crew had really been blocking the door in an unsafe manner, they would have all been forced to move or arrested if they didn't comply.
- Jeff P. Henderson
The first "police officer" we see in the video is in fact a security guard hired by the hotel wearing a Boulder County Sheriff's uniform.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
So security guards are allowed to arrest people? That's a new one...
- Jeff P. Henderson
I found out last night from the Hotel PR Person that he really was a Boulder county sheriff and he was assigned to the hotel by the DNC.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
louisgray.com: Feedly Brings New Social Experience to Start - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Franklin Pettit and Greg Lato liked this
The addition of FriendFeed conversations in Feedly makes a great addition to feed reading.
- Sergio Cruz
LinkedIn Needs To Re-Think Its Plans - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Greg Lato, Anand Sharma, Atul Arora and Martin Recke liked this
SmugMug loves OAuth - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Andy Denmark, David Recordon, Benjamin Golub and 5 other people liked this
Hey thanks, I've been meaning to develop for the API for a while. this will make it much easier. Any word on when the new API docs will be out?
- Roberto Bonini
I'm really excited about this. :)
- Don MacAskill
@Roberto Bonini - By mixing and matching the older docs with the OAuth docs, you should be fine. But David is busily working on updating the docs, so I don't expect it'll take too long. Depends on how many diapers he has to change. :)
- Don MacAskill
Working on our SmugMug Widget now, so this is good news.
- Jeremy Hall
@Don MacAskill - Thanks.
- Roberto Bonini
Congrats, Don and team!
- DeWitt Clinton
Thanks everyone. Just updated the blog entry to say that it's usable now, even with the shoddy docs, and that you'll need to use the new Beta API endpoints for 1.2.2. Have fun!
- Don MacAskill
Rock on!
- Evan Sims
And in case you weren't aware, we've supported OpenID since Feb 23, 2007 - and tons of other portability-friendly things like XFN, FOAF, RSS, Atom, for a long time as well. We'll keep adding more - promise.
- Don MacAskill
Hey Apple, What Am I Supposed to Do With My Old iPhone? - http://www.youhavetobekiddingme.com/2008...
NataliYesilbahar.com, Avelino Maestas, acedanger and 22 other people liked this
Good point. I would LOVE if there was some sort of swap discount, where they could sell your phone refurbed or something.
- Andrew Dobrow
someone should collect them for a high school dev center - they are still useful as dev test devices
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
nothing like a $400.00 or $500.00 disposable phone eh
- Steven Hodson
Coaster
- MG Siegler
because it was shiny ;)
- David Petar Novakovic
from twhirl
that should be: suckers who bought a 2G brick because it was shiny ;)
- David Petar Novakovic
from twhirl
Family member gift, like all my not-quite-old-but-not-used computer equipment.
- Bret Taylor
I agree with bwana. Keep using your iphone. The only big difference is like 30 seconds less loading time on the browser
- Anthony
as a matter of fact it would cost you the 199/299 plus 120 dollars extra a year service charges plus a long day at the apple store that you could spend complaining about the iphone with me on FF
- Anthony
@Bwana shame on you for suggesting something so sensible after all how's His Jobness suppose to advance the power of Apple if such talk discourages the emptying of wallets .. Moshe gonna be on your ass in the morning :)
- Steven Hodson
plus activation
- Anthony
plus the "im steve jobs so give me money" fee...
- Anthony
Oooh, the iPhone->iPod idea sounds great. Sign me up for that.
- Don MacAskill
My plan is to make the current iPhone the jail-broken one and use the new one with my current AT&T sim
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I'm going to frame mine. And worship it.
- Richard
send it too the third world
- Brad Stevens
from twhirl
I offer to buy your fully functional iPhone for 70 dollars. :) There you have it, suckers! *g* (They said that you could trade in the old iPhones for 200 bucks. I wonder what Apple will do with all these old iPhones, after all.)
- sebmos
What's the matter with giving it as gift to a family member?
- Francine Hardaway
So there are actually people, on this post, who own the 1st gen iphones, and are going to get a 3G iphone. If so, i guess i just want to take this time to tell you that you are now officially a slave to trends. Who fuckin cares that its only 2 hundred bucks, that new iphone is a slap in the face with no video support
- Anthony
You don't hear Blackberry users whine when some faster, slimmer, curvier or bolder one comes out - you keep on using it until it dies or the plan runs out
- Sally Church
Well, how about not buying a new iPhone in the first place? I generally try to avoid updating my hardware until it's too late, which is why I still have a fifth generation iPod video. Now excuse me, I've got to fix one of my punchcard computers. :P
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Just like the last iteration was a slap in the face with no 3G or GPS or MMS or ..or..or? Yet it sold millions. Apple knows this stuff better than we do.
- Bwana ☠
Yeah, liked that posted by Robert and I think he should adopt the (D) choice i.e. send me that old stinin' iphone :)
- directeur
You sell it to me for 50 bucks of course!
- Mike Lewis
Tease for our new photography show, PhotoCycle, starting later this month: http://scobleizer.smugmug.com/gallery... with @thomashawk and @marcsilber
Gustav Holmström, Kreg Steppe, Chris Nixon and 30 other people liked this
great project! is marc really on a mountain? :)
- Anthony Farrior
Heh, thanks. It's going to be a lot of fun. Thanks to Rocky Barbanica for editing and producing it, too. By the way, SmugMug's video is quite nice, very impressed.
- Robert Scoble
Looks like it will be a pretty good show. I'm looking forward to it.
- Jeremy Kunz
from Alert Thingy
Color me excited!
- Andy Roth
Looking forward to PhtotCycle!
- Mitchell Tsai
Great teaser. Looking forward to it. I like the use of SmugMug for the HQ video.
- Jeremy Hall
It's not pn smugmug- it's on my personal site.
- Rocky Barbanica
Looking forward to this
- Andrew Smith
yep that's really Half Dome behind me, no blue screen! check it here http://www.silberstudios.com/blog...
- Marc Silber
Rocky: actually I moved it over to SmugMug.
- Robert Scoble
cool idea for a show
- chartreuse
Wow ! seems great, can't wait to see it ! (definitely Half Dome, great climbing spot too!)
- Heimana
Looks like a great project; the backdrop is ridiculous.
- Blake N. Cooper
was that a real view on the background? (amazing)
- Orli Yakuel
Nice teaser. The show looks like something I'd really enjoy. What's the best way to keep tabs on when the first videos start coming out. Subscribing to the feed on that video page?
- Dylan Parker
I'd try Opera before using IE
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I suppose I should break down and install Opera at some point...sheesh, how many browsers does one need these days! :D
- Joel Gray
It works in Firefox 3.0 RC1 here. Not sure why it's not working for you. Do you have the latest Flash plugin?
- Robert Scoble
@Joel Gray - We haven't tested with FF3rc1/rc2 yet, but I'll see if we can give it a shake today. Can't imagine why it wouldn't work. Mac or Windows?
- Don MacAskill
Hopefully already obvious, but click the "Share" button to get an embeddable player.
- Don MacAskill
Don, where is the "share" button. I can't find it anywhere on the page and want to embed the video on my blog?
- Thomas Hawk
@DonMacAskill Windows Vista SP1. Haven't had any problems with YouTube or other videos that use the player. Just sits there saying "Buffereing" connection seems good to everything else.
- Joel Gray
Really looking forwared to this!.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
@Thomas Hawk - Looks like Scoble has some interesting customization, blowing away our normal buttons. Go here http://scobleizer.smugmug.com/gallery... and click 'share photo'. Use the 'Get a link' tab.
- Don MacAskill
@Joel Gray - Can you tell me which version of Flash this page says you have? http://kb.adobe.com/selfser...
- Don MacAskill
@DonMacAskill WIN 9,0,115,0 OS Windows Vista - Video Cap: Yes - Audio Cap: Yes - Local File I/O: Yes
- Joel Gray
Awesome, can't wait for it. Where will we be able to view this show?
- Cade Brown
it will be on http;//www.fastcompany.tv
- Robert Scoble
@Joel Gray - There are some bugs in 9,0,115 that are fixed in 9,0,124, so you could try updating. I'm installing FF3rc2 on my Vista SP1 VM right now, so we'll see how that goes.
- Don MacAskill
@Joel Gray - Hmm, fresh FF3rc2 install on my Vista SP1 machine w/Flash 9,0,115 and it plays fine for me. Dang. I'm stumped. I'll keep looking, though.
- Don MacAskill
Look froward to seeing that!
- Kreg Steppe
It is now up at http://www.fastcompany.tv/photocy...
- Robert Scoble
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